This is all it takes to sell a game nowadays

I'm buying this game because I like this series. I was never drawn in by fanservice, because there isn't any anyway. I'm sorry you're unhappy with games like this having success, but if it really does bother you, feel comforted by the fact that these sorts of games don't cost much money to make, and don't make much money in return. They are truly niche games, and in a way it's sad that so many great games will go unappreciated by the majority of gamers, but it's also kind of nice that some of us get to feel we've discovered a hidden gem or an underappreciated series.

Regardless, I don't play games to take myself seriously, or to take games seriously. I'm sure some people do, but people like me prefer to play games as a way to escape some of life's hardships, while also affirming life's small miracles, and greater beauties.

Although ultimately, I do think it's a shame that a simply dressed, innocent young girl is being seen as too erotic to treat as a normal person.

>This is why games and gamers will never be taken seriously.
They are already taken way too seriously.

What, are you mad because your ugly little indie game isn't selling? Don't be so entitled.

I bought one Atelier game on PS3 and thought it was cheaply made kusoge trash but this one has at least a little higher production value and a better looking girl so I'm considering playing it, but only AFTER I get to see some gameplay footage.

I don’t want to be taken seriously. I want to one of my hobbies without people trying to assign politics to it.

*Enjoy one of my hobbies.

>This is all it takes
You are understating how much that really is.

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>higher production value
Nah they always look nice in trailers, environments in the final game is always trash

I fucking love giant pusy mounds

They already showed gameplay though. And it does look better than their last game. It's not a massive upgrade that will make it look like a triple A game but the difference is there.

Nobody plays Atelier for the graphics anyway, so it's just a little something extra. Also the music is still absolute top notch.

You can compare both of them here
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I don't want respect, I want fat thighs

Ryza is so sexy I might buy her game even without time limits

>buy
>games
lmao
fucking newfags

i don't care

High tier breedable sows

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You say it sarcastically but every time I see some r34 pic next to an OP that says "You WILL buy her game, right?" I want to lay down and just not get up

Bare legs > ass, tits, feet

Thighpussy

I wanna breed Ryza

i fuckin hate those kinds of threads. wish they'd get redirected to porn dump boards or something, because that's all they ever are

nigh impossible to discuss weebcore on Yea Forums. for every actual discussion post in a thread, you get five more posts from porn addicted fap junkies

>weebcore
>reddit spacing
that's gonna be a yikes from me

Go back to Trannyera and dilate, mentally ill tranny

It's possible that Ryza will sell 300k copies

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I don't mind these kind of threads but I'm also ready to actually talk about the games if anyone wants to. Though some games are almost impossible to talk here as they're very niche, but for those I've used platform specific threads in vg. Without those my discussions about certain games would have been very little.

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did i hit a nerve, junkie?

give me a reason to care about games as a medium being taken seriously

go back

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below 200k is quite low, even by nip standards. How does Japan keep making these games when they sell so poorly?

People of questionable natures(mainly pedophilic) say you should take them seriously and make them all be about American politics and Trump and Social Justice so Gran Pappie doesn't laugh at them for talking about children's toys for a living.
Hey, you said A reason, never said it had to be a good one.

>they sell 30k!
>no they sell over 200k
>that's still low LOL
ok

If you've played any more than one of Atelier games you would see how much they recycle animations, NPCs and items. Gust also sells tons of physical stuff to their most dedicated fans through their webstore. But I still do love to play them.

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No I was asking an actual question about the industry as a whole.

>below 200k is quite low
It isn't. 10k is where CH breaks even, Gust is MAYBE 15, MAYBE the same as CH. Atlus is anywhere from 50k - 100k. Falcom are between 15 and 50k. The budgets are low so the games don't sell poorly at all, they sell as well as they need to.

no you were shitposting, selling 200k copies of a 60 dollar game is not low

What would a 90's gaming mag Ryza advertisement page look like?

And the funny thing is that voice acting probably takes a good chunk of these games budgets as well.

not even that good looking

As for why, the Japs just make whatever they want, not for a committee. You see evidence of this all the time with things like Toridamono getting full freedom to make Ryza as he pleased, CH continuously making weird experimental games with no real grounding the idea will work, hell even Falcom and it's ultra long interconnected super RPG series Kiseki isn't something a committee would never agree to since you need to play 9+ other games before the newest entry to understand everything going on.
The Japs have a surprising amount of freedom if they don't put a fuck huge budget into the game.

I honestly don't give a shit, I unironically play these games for the gameplay.

>sex appeal sells
Big surprise. Now they just need to make her a lecherous rattlebrain and she'll guarantee success like one of those popular meme girls on Yea Forums.

I honestly like that western indies are raising up as well, they probably have a similar budget as these smaller Jap studios have. And sometimes they result in a fun videogame that does what a small group of developers want. Too big budgets usually result in something that is too safe and tries to appeal to everyone.

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its impossible to use a sexy little girl for promoting sales as only a very small percentage of the population has pedophile tendencies

it would look like a ryza advertisement page covered in nut

Exactly my sentiments on the matter.

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>This is all it takes to make someone insecure nowadays
This is why women will never be taken seriously. Imagine being easily replaced by a drawing.
On another note, how long are Atelier games, usually? Do they get nuts at all? I tried out the alchemist one, I think, when I had Psnow, and while spamming normal attack I couldn't really see where the mechanics were going.

They're about 40-60 hours main story and 80-100 hours for 100%
A lot of the mechanics relate to item creation through alchemy so the battle system remains rather simple if you aren't focussing on alchemy and ways to manipulate turns through use of the items you've crafted. If you treat Atelier like a normal JRPG you won't get much out of it apart from cute girl SoL scenes.

Haha, that's our Gust

Eveything is about budget and expectatives. Codename Steam was a failure with 30K because they wanted to create a tentpole franchise, but it was OK for japanese market. None of Atelier games was aiming to sell 1mill, at 200K they are over any expectative. You vision is closer to AAA games, but this is Guts, not Ubi or Activision, they are still a small company, they dont want to grow up to a mega-conglomerate.

Sex sells user it's the first lesson for selling things.

>making games for 200.000 persons plus 1000 pirates
when will they stop?

ps4 hack when so i can play the shit out of this?

>Atelier Ryza Introduces New Playable Party Member Lira Who Has Black Tights And Big Talons
Oh yes I do like her big "talons".

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This. Sex, love, pain. The best sellers for everything. How do you not know this OP?

>white hair covering one eye
>fukn hueg tiddies
>black tights

holy shit.

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Stay toasty.

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>Toridamono: “The design is totally of my personal taste. Clad in black tights with a fundoshi. I didn’t hesitate much.”

The mistake you made was thinking humans can be taken seriously in the first place. Were just apes with overclocked ape brains and little more. Primary difference between 100 and 140+ IQ is pattern and spatial recognition that comes with deficits in other areas. Beneath that humanity is still a bunch of shit flinging masturbating animals.

>Tits
>Ass
>Sex
This is all it takes to sell. Welcome to bring a jew.

>Clad in black tights with a fundoshi
>tights with a fundoshi

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Why did I read even a part of this? I knew exactly what was going to be said anyway

I wish i could buy this man a fucking drink. God bless the japanese and their wanton disregard for western feminazi rhetoric

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Sorry, user. Just spreading awareness of this new anti-thigh rhetoric.

How do you throw around a term like ZR yet act disgusted by fat thighs with a thigh gap? How do you act surprised and say the artist is a creep for focusing on her thighs when Totori and her "sexy back" exist? If you're interested in games like this why the fuck do you post on a website like that?

I don't get these people.

>How do you throw around a term like ZR yet act disgusted by fat thighs with a thigh gap?
After Tifa's redesign, I'm convinced secondaries are throwing the term around in a piss-poor attempt to sound credible.

EA exec pls go
40k in japan is about what guilty gear sells and that series has lasted two decades at this point. Anything that sells over 100k is pretty good for a normal game, AAA sales numbers have polluted your mind.

they are, for more examples see DFC