>Literally unapproachable because of his faggot projectiles and succ >If you do approach him half his moves have super armor and the half that don't are fast as fuck >Has a counter >Is one of the hardest characters to KO because of his weight >Has to safest, most braindead verticle recovery in the game >Down throw is a guaranteed kill past a certain percent
>But he doesn't have long combos so tournament players ignore him >"WOW I'M SO BASED FOR PLAYING A CHARACTER LITERALLY MADE FOR TODDLERS NUH UH HE'S NOT GOOD LOOK AT THE TIER LIST I'M JUST THAT FUCKING BASED"
I wonder how stupid Banjo's going to be and how many excuses people will make for playing him?
Based, reminds me of Ridley shitters thinking he needs buffs >b-but muh le based reddit space dragon is weak!! No you're just shit and crutch on giant hitboxes like K-rool fags
Caleb Brooks
Why the fuck is he even in the game?
Parker Butler
The only characters that are factually hard to play effectively are Ryu, Ken, and Bayonetta. That's it, if you don't play any of those three then you have no right to complain about your character being trash and/or requiring high effort for low reward.
Colton Hall
>He has long startup and ending frames on all of his moves.
>Therefore, you should jump into range of his fastest moves
>long endlag and startup >one of the worst projectiles in the game, cannonball has ridiculous endlag and is easily avoided >super armor is situational at best
K.Rool is literally a complete gimmick character, and if you lose to him you deserve to. >
>j-jjust change your mains bro!! >change your entire playstyle to deal with le broken gator
Robert Brooks
Sounds like you just suck at the game. You're not gonna make it, bitch.
Noah White
So k rool is a bad character who relies on gimmicks but god if he isn't one of the most infuriating characters to fight. One of the only characters in the game that encourages you to play safe at all times or he'll cheese a stock away.
Is this that same guy bitching about Ridley being "OP"? I have a hard time against Rool as my main Ridley but I don't think he's at all over powered and can understand why people consider Rool not the best. Why I have such trouble against him as Ridley I've no idea. Perhaps the projectiles. The shit you should be complaining about are characters getting buffed who don't need it while those who need it get nothing or small tweaks to their goddamn final smash that you'll use all of 1% of the time at best.
Eat shit OP. Rool and Ridley are in the game and could stand for some buffs but people who wanted these characters forever still main them and will keep doing so even when balance patches cease because that's who they've wanted to play as. Next you'll be telling us "I main an honest Palutena who can juggle and ko with her aerials with ease and up b with absolutely no endlag nonstop until I decide to do another aerial because my up b has no fucking endlag lol wo I'm so based for playing a top tier character made for waifufags!"
>wait for him to attack with a slow move >jump over him and attack him while he's vulnerable If I can do it with fucking Kirby, you can do it with anyone else.
Alexander Adams
K. Rool is actual fucking trash and you have to be awful at the game to lose to him. Are you the same faggot who was crying about losing to the Chadmonts last week?
I meant gameplay-wise. Why would Banjo be broken if K. Rool is?
Camden Sanchez
>change your entire playstyle Yes, this is what you're supposed to do when your usual method isn't working.
David Torres
>change your entire playstyle to deal with le broken gator Yes, you should be changing your playstyle to deal with different characters.
Robert Jackson
...Lmao? No, both soiboy characters need to be gutted and the people that think they're based for crutching on them are sad sad little men
Juan Phillips
Cry harder, faggot.
Lincoln Morgan
Imagine being this bad at a game for children
Joshua Garcia
you literally have a reflect, a decent/fast projectile with auto recital, a good zoning tool with explosive flame, you're decently fast, have good aerials and range, If you are getting gimmicked on by K.Rool I don't know what to tell you
Jordan Sanders
>faggot projectiles Well, he was created by the English, right?
you’ve been trying to push this meme for a month now it’s time to stop
Ayden Peterson
Kill yourselves zoomers
Landon Brooks
>Chadmonts
Oh god, you guys actually think you're special for pressing B 100 times in a minute?
Jose Kelly
so you main one of the best, extremely overwhelming characters with two amazing projectiles and can't beat one of the worst, extremely gimmicky characters with two average at best projectiles? user, maybe fightans aren't for you...
Nathan Young
>one of the best Yikes...
Charles Cox
Ridley and K. Rool both suck. If somebody wins using them they sure as hell aren't using them as a crutch
Christian Hernandez
It could be that the guy he's fighting is just very good at the game. There comes a point where characters don't matter if the skill difference is high enough
Landon Hernandez
>Ridley and K. Rool both suck.
Why? Because some fat pedophile Chilean cuck on the internet told you so?
Ryder Gomez
what I especially like about K.Rools "good" projectiles besides how they never kill is that losing crown to getting jumped on, grabbed or reflected gives the opponent one of the best item projectiles to use against you, indefinitely.
Parker Richardson
>Every K. Rool move is as slow as U or D smash >Every K. Rool move is reactable by fucking jumping
Are you high, retarded, or lying?
Cameron Myers
>Can't beat a character who can't do anything the second you get close to them and dies the second you get them offstage Cry more, faggot
In a game with 70+ characters, I would call being top 10/15 one of the best, yes. What's your point?
Jordan Powell
what the fuck are you even talking about
Brayden Lopez
>the obvious answer is to remove all high performers!!!1 what are you talking about
Isaiah Butler
Anyone who actually understands this game below the surface level knows that big characters who have mostly moves with slow startup are trash. They get combo'd way too easily and can almost never approach when the opponent is using projectiles. Instead of bitching on Yea Forums about how "busted" these god awful characters are, you could spend time getting match-up experience so you understand how to beat these characters, but you're a whiny retard with no initiative
Ryder Johnson
And you don't think soiboy K Rool and le reddit space dragon are top 10/15? Are you delusional?
Eli Carter
I thought he was considered bottom 5 worst character in the game
Carson Sullivan
what are you talking aboutmind
Zachary King
>90% of Smash gameplay isn't in tournaments >Tournaments are the metric
xfd
Nice projection
Camden Sanchez
No they are clearly top 5
Brandon Sullivan
I main Pokémon Trainer, you seething faggot
Alexander Long
You can also shield, or spot dodge. The point I was making was if you don't approach K Rool, he'll probably pull out his projectiles, and when he does you can usually take advantage of him. Or, if you play a character with projectiles, you can out camp him, and make him approach you. He's not that hard a character to play against. He's big and slow; just bully him.
Mason Long
King K. Rule is in the game because he is a Nintendo icon that was made popular by the success of Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2, and Donkey Kong Country 3 on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System.
Easton Rodriguez
so what metric do you prefer to tournament win rate? do you only count matches that happen in your living room?
Gabriel Torres
Nobody:
Absolutely no one:
Not a single soul:
Not a single known entity:
Not even God herself:
Random white incel: i'm gOiNg tO UsE ThE N-WoRd cAsUaLlY To oFfEnD a RaCe oF PeOpLe wHiLe uNdErMiNiNg tHeIr aChIeVeMeNtS AnD StRuGgLe aS A WhOlE
*le ebig spongbub meme When will mods ban reddit from posting?
Grayson Anderson
He's also a caricature of americans. Completely in british nature.
Ian Sanchez
He's the saltiest anti-fag to ever exist trying, and sadly succeeding, in stirring up shit by calling Rool/Ridley OP and starting his little tantrum on Banjo even before he's released.
Oliver Jenkins
That's probably not true considering a K rool won a major in Australia, I think the "krool is shit" meme is overhyped. I don't think he's THAT bad
Chase Lee
>They get combo'd way too easily
Oh sorry, my mistake, a character that's annoying to fight and for literal fucking babies to play is suddenly GARBAGE because IF I sit in training mode for HALF A FUCKING YEAR and grind out WARIO or PIKACHU COMBOS then maybe I'll have the ability to NOT be FRUSTRATED by a character that REFUSES TO FUCKING DIE because the most important thing in a fucking party game is MY DEDICATION AND YEARS OF MY LIFE SPENT PERFECTING THE CRAFT and not just PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME
I'M NOT IN A FUCKING TOURNAMENT I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HOW WELL THE EPHEBEPHILE OR THE MEXICAN DO WITH WHO AND AGAINST WHAT AND WHEN YOUR COMMUNITY'S EXPECTATIONS GET SUBVERTED AND ISABELLE BEAS SNAKE YOU GO NUCLEAR AND MAKE MOTHERFUCKERS APOLOGIZE FOR WINNING THE GODDAMN GAME BECAUSE THE TIER LIST SAYS SNAKE HAS TO FUCKING WIN
I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT ME
THE GAMES I PLAY
HOW I PLAY THEM
AND NOT TO BE TOLD THAT MY FRUSTRATION ISN'T FUCKING REAL BECAUSE I CAN JUST COAST TO COAST CARRY THAT CROCODILIAN FUCK AND FART IN HIS FACE FOR A FREE STOCK IF I SIT IN THE FUCKING TRAINING STAGE AND GRIND OUT A COMBO THAT I'LL LEARN IN THE TIME IT TAKES ME TO BECOME FLUENT IN A ROMANTIC FUCKING LANGUAGE
>complaining about how heavies refuse to die That's literally their one saving grace and even that's not enough to make them viable character choices.
Jose Moore
by jumping on his head a few times learn from DK, OP
Tyler Anderson
>>Literally unapproachable because of his faggot projectiles and succ Jump over them. Crown is all he has in neutral since he's slow as fuck and has shit range on his normals. He's fucked if you use the crown against him. Also blunderbuss is slow and predictable. >>If you do approach him half his moves have super armor and the half that don't are fast as fuck Literally all his moves besides jab and nair are slow. And nair is pretty much all he has to get out of combos so you will always see him spamming it when in disadvantage. Also the armor breaks after taking 28℅. >>Has a counter So? >>Is one of the hardest characters to KO because of his weight But he gets assraped by combos. >>Has to safest, most braindead verticle recovery in the game It isn't safe. His lack of airspeed and the propellerpack's predictable trajectory means he always recovers low. Hit him with projectiles, disjoints, or simply from the side and he's screwed. >>Down throw is a guaranteed kill past a certain percent What's next, are you gonna complain about kill throws? Not like the ones he has are good. >>But he doesn't have long combos so tournament players ignore him Snake doesn't do that many long combos yet you see him doing well. No one picks him because his disadvantage is abysmal and good players know how to deal with his gimmicks. >>"WOW I'M SO BASED FOR PLAYING A CHARACTER LITERALLY MADE FOR TODDLERS NUH UH HE'S NOT GOOD LOOK AT THE TIER LIST I'M JUST THAT FUCKING BASED" Adapt, get good, and stop being a scrublord. >Banjo People will play him because they've been waiting 20 years for him. If you don't like it, adapt.
Elijah Wilson
This HAS to be bait. I refuse to believe someone who mains Palu has a hard time with a big body, let alone fucking K. Rool of all characters.
Hunter Allen
Shulk is harder than those three.
Connor Richardson
tl;dr
Andrew Moore
Please tell me my boy Ridley will get some buffs before the balance patches end. Please for god sake give him less start up/endlag, air speed, weight, any number of things that'd help the bastard.
>Fight a Palutena Jeez I sure didn't want to do a goddamn thing the entire match.
Asher Reed
Kirby.
Samuel Campbell
Yeah, sure he can be buffed (eventually). Why not. Oh, to the level of your typical top tier? ha ha ha no. Remember Sakurai thinks an average 50% winrate across the board in ONLINE GAMES makes the cast completely balanced with each other.
Christopher Morgan
You might want to seriously consider quitting, mate
Adrian Phillips
He clearly takes tournament play into account, notice how all major nerfs are to notably high tier characters.
Matthew Taylor
>K. Rool counter It's the only counter in the game that you have to actually aim with, right?
Aiden Bailey
ridley is literally the 3rd worst character in the game
start going to locals instead of playing your shitty friends and online toddlers
Easton Morgan
Yes, I know, but I don't understand it sometimes. Shitty characters can remain shit forever but certain top characters can get kneejerk nerfed within months that they start getting attention. Wolf got nerfed ever so slightly for being popular but characters like pt, the rats, inkling, wario, swords etc. are still as fucked up as ever.
He’s low midtier at best, and your matchup depends on how early or late you pull of your moves. Ridley is good with air attacks t. Someone who frequents Ridley at locals
They sure did but I'm afraid it changed almost nothing. I think only Mewtwo and Falcon have any potential out of these but that is because they were already underrated. They may just as well stay irrelevant, idk. They need like, bullshit amount of buffs to make it not tiny adjustments is all I'm saying.
Aiden Miller
That‘s because “recovery“ in smash refers to how they return to the stage. Do you have a better name for it?
Joshua Roberts
but 3.1.0 turned Ken from a solid low tier to a solid high tier
Ayden Cox
winddown
Brody Johnson
If they ban one flavour of Reddit they have to ban them all and just like the homeless, nobody makes nearly enough money to tolerate you people.
Angel Edwards
based caucasianposter
Nicholas Bell
>recovery
You mean getting back to the stage? They don't call that endlag, no
Chase Gray
no, a better name for returning to the stage
Tyler Gonzalez
bounceback
Hunter Hill
Competitive Smash sucks ass. You don't have to play it just because it's popular. It's 100% not for everyone, in fact it's mostly complete human waste that will tend to enjoy it.
Kiddies thinkin their smashy washy push joystick left and right game is so deep hehehe ppppbbbbbffffttt HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOOWEE Don't neglect your studies.
Xavier Hall
>Pick Ganondorf, or Y!Link >Dab all over the retarded gator
Lincoln Nelson
Post bullshit from your own main
Bowser is probably the best character to body playera from reaching elite. Fram 6 grab that can be done aerial and kill at 90% on lightweights. fire breath that goes upwards of 40% damage before getting too weak for knockback. Armor on upsmash, and you cant use rabid jabs because he just walks through those things to grab you. But you can spotdodge evrrything but up b and fire breath, use gentlemen style jabs, and spike offstage and win every game against a bowser
Kevin Williams
Fucking this. All you have to do is throw out your shield and ROB is useless. None of his moves deal any shield pressure, and all his prijectiles get canceled out. Even gyro.
>great recovery >able to bait overeager retards into SDing due to chasing you too far offstage >morph ball bombs mix-up your fall and makes it harder for opponents to approach/recover if placed well >charged beam = free pressure and kill move at 100% and more >regular beam gimps and stops opponent’s momentum >hard hitting aerials >good tether BUT >slow tether >slow startup to almost all moves >slow air speed >bad jab >slow ground speed >weak against swords >aerials with enough endlag to make air combos hard >a good portion of moves are shut off by reflectors/absorbers
Corrin can combo almost any move against an undamaged grounded opponent into a pin. Also you can catch rolls and dashing abilities by charging fsmash, the chainsaw sword has a hitbox that will hold them in place while you charge or stop them from holding shield. Spiciest shit: You can pin kick offstage from battlefield's second platforms to b reverse a fully charged neutral b into someone recovering low.
As for weaknesses, with his low air speed any sort of projectile camping fucks him over.
Wyatt Butler
>Falco's upsmash hitbox in general >Falco's up-throw laser almost never consistently hits Literally fix those and he'd be just fine.
How is that different from landing lag? That's still endlag
Alexander Howard
Is it possible to do well with Ridley against competent people? Feels like everyone knows how to deal with him, while I can never learn how to deal with others because I'm just in a disadvantage the whole time. Like Palutena just up b'ing everywhere with no repercussions nonstop until she can land something.
I know I shouldn't blame the character itself but his endlag, some wonky hitboxes, and how long his up b takes to go off fuck me over a lot. Getting outplayed in the air and being punished for actually blocking shit doesn't help either.
I'm in some Hellish spot where I can curb stomp super casuals but get bodied by anyone with even a little bit of skill or using a top tier character.
>One of the best nairs in the entire game >Can constantly make stupid plays or challenge moves most other characters can't because he's heavy and will live to 300% >Has seen a lot of tournament play >Rises every time a new tier list comes out >Has command grabs that let him bypass neutral and ledgetrapping >Extremely potent burst option with down b, sweetspot now moved to the end of his foot; basically inkling's roller except it flatout kills you at the same percent instead of rooting you >Landing nair1 confirms into forward tilt for some fucking reason >Down smash and forward smash have the biggest hitboxes of any move in the entire game >"b-b-but he gets cucked by a few top tiers projectile spammers that means he's bad!!"
You forgot to mention that you can‘t shield more than 1 of his moves every 20 seconds or you risk a break
Christian Watson
>Ridley >Giant hitboxes Giant hurtboxes, maybe
Robert Thomas
I'm gonna come out and say that i despise fighting a good Wario, There's just nothing you can do against him with how all over the place he is >Quick and safe Up and Down tilt >An almost unrivaled air game that combos easily >Projectile immunity in certain scenarios with his bite that also heals him >Waft can kill even some heavies at 90 Atleast his Vertical recovery isnt as scary and is very susceptible to dunks.
Nothing grinds my gears more than some knuckle dragging retard catching your top midair and punishing you for it.
Camden Lee
>Projectiles are shit to begin with >Big wind up to most of them >Predictable as fuck >Can only get 10~ decent hits in with the Levin sword >Sword has a small hitbox in general >Meter management >Sakurai keeps nerfing projectiles and buffing shields The meter management is probably the only arguably good one, since it prevents spammer-shitters like with the Mother kids or the Belmont boys. I just want her to be good bros.
