Smash Bros

Nice joke.

>Reimu had a crossover appearance with Kirby in another Bandai Namco title
youtube.com/watch?v=MY6gkmxGF2k&t=0m5s
>Bandai Namco has experience with the Touhou series
>Bandai Namco also made remixes of Touhou music
youtube.com/watch?v=0z9ygWEwK8Y
>Bandai Namco also has licenses to Touhou fan music
youtube.com/watch?v=A3Ppj87ma1Q
>Touhou is a pop culture phenomenon in Japan with two major conventions every year
>Sega and Nintendo sold arrange CDs at Reitaisai
shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19472.msg1252539.html#msg1252539
>ZUN had officially given Nintendo a license, allowing Band Brothers players to upload music based on all Team Shanghai Alice albums
>3 Touhou fangames and an official spin-off is coming to Switch fairly soon
twitter.com/UNTIESWORLD/status/1147796417823383552
gematsu.com/2019/05/touhou-hyoibana-antinomy-of-common-flowers-coming-to-switch
>Leak mentions Rare Replay which was confirmed by Sabi, a very credible insider to be true, mentions DQ ports a month before DQ11's port got its release date announced and also mentions Touhou ports which are coming fairly soon
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/446252992/

Reimu would be a great addition.

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>a character that will be a mii costume
>a character that should be a mii costume

>Spamming/flooding
>Spamming/flooding
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You guys don't know when to quit asking for characters, embarrassing.

"Come on guys he's coming out today I swear it!"
"Is it okay if I sit down Tone? Is that alrig-"

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THE SAME GODDAMN FUCKING POSTS EVERY FUCKING THREAD
DO YOU FUCKS NOT HAVE LITERALLY ANYTHING BETTER TO DO

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If they were going to add a Valve rep Chell makes more sense as she's appeared on a Nintendo console through LEGO Dimensions.

Only ~8 more hours till Hero finally draws near!

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They're rosterfags, of course they don't

Where do you think you are?

Hey puss does the trailer even really exist?

Blame the thread, not the posts.

to maintain proper gender balance the last two newcomers have got to be female, right?

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F-Four more days!...R-Right, Porkybros?

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youtube.com/watch?v=4iIrg4DM078

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Nigga that’s dumb as hell when gordon freeman is obviously more popular and more prestigious. Sakurai himself said not being on a nintendo console doesn’t matter.

Even if he doesn't come to ultimate, you can still support him for the next smash game, just look at the likes of Ridley, K. Rool and Banjo-Kazooie

Hi Tabbender

Nigga I’ve only ever posted about frogger one other time. Go fuck yourself.

youtube.com/watch?v=a3JSbOt7CLo

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I’m actually out buying food.

If he doesn’t get spirited in the next week I’m feeling great about his chances. I’d say he’s almost a lock for SOME FORM of DLC, albiet not necessarily a playable fighter.

there is no gender quota

She's probably not in and never will be but she would be a cool addition

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God I hope the last two are female.

Anyone know if Sardines taste good.

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>doomfags
Biggest retards since Steve niggers

Nice.

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Rayyymu lmao

This. As weird as it is to say, we need to pray that we get NOTHING in this update, Porkybros. It's our only hope.

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Cringe

joker and hero are basically intersex femboys, so really we need at least 1 chick and 1 manly dude

Yikes

I can want Doomguy as much as I want, don't care for the evidence because the chance is pretty much either 0% or 100%. And I've still got a Doom game coming out later this year anyway, it'd be a bonus at best.

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smash roster threads are made and bumped by literal bots

This is going to be your RE representative, you may not like it but it's the one who makes more sense.

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Stop this
Shitty literally who Sylux will never be in fighters pass

facts

Seething

*blocks your path*

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hey it's this thread again for the 10th time today, the 100th time this week
what do you rosterfags have left to talk about
ffs make a general and stop shitting up Yea Forums
I bought the fighter's pass but I don't give a fuck to speculate the same shit every single fucking day

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The threads are running on fumes at the moment anyways.

I've never seen someone post about frogger before, heck I've seen Bub from Puzzle Bobble mentioned a few times. Do you have nothing better to do than browse smash threads?

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The problem with Jill and Leon at the moment are the realistic fire arms with is a bit of a difficult subject in smash, Joker has a model toy gun and Bayonetta has magical unrealistic ones.

With Nemesis at least you have more representation and moveset potential than just shoot and shoot harder, also represent the core theme of the franchise which are the BOWs and other abominations that you have to survive through the series, he is even considered by most of the RE fans as the mascot of the series, a lot also are also familiar with him because of the movies.

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I'm convinced that Reimu posters are literal autists.

FUCK ALL OF YOU MONSTER HUNTER IS IN MONSTER HUNTER IS IN MONSTER HUNTER IS IN

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All Smash Players are autists. Their different desires are not inferior to yours you delusional chump.

>Okami
>2k19
Haha, nice joke.

Doesn't deny the truth though, guns are a touchy subject when it comes to smash.

Both of these are fully approved and I'd pay premium price for either.

Nothing that pertains to you.

Sorry, the post was meant for

How ironic when this post is also in every thread

>Joker has a model toy gun
Only in persona 5. In smash it’s a normal gun. It sounds like a gun, it drops shells like a gun, it fires like a gun, it’s fucking called “gun.” It’s a fucking gun.

Jill is in the movies too. Also don’t fucking say they can just “shoot and shoot harder” when you’re literally replying to a post with a moveset that DOESN’T reply on guns.

>persona
>2019
Haha, nice joke.

They're releasing P5R this year

Snake? Bayonetta? Joker? Fox? Falco?

Even if it is looks like a real gun, the way Joker uses the it is still fantasy-oriented, with his "gun-kata" style and DMC "rain storm" attack. I can't see Sakurai comfortable with realistic gunplay in Smash.

>Active franchise card
>2019
*knocks on your screen*

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>Snake
He cartoony explosives, no guns

>Bayonetta and Joker
Highly stylized and flashy gun-kata, and in no way accurate to how a gun works in real life

>Fox and Falco
Lasers

>Highly stylized and flashy gun-kata, and in no way accurate to how a gun works in real life
A gun is just aiming and pulling the trigger. Maybe Nintendo just doesn't care anymore and settles for the teen rating.

You can break down any action into surface-level details. However, the fact remains that fantasy depictions are always treated differently from realistic depictions, no matter how you slice it.

Anti-Reimu posters are a million time worse. Have you seen this one guy who samefagged so hard in a thread that it had 69 posters at bump limit, just because people were commenting on a poll where Reimu did well?

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>Fortnite Season 9 overtime launched today, after marvel, like in the july video
OH SHIT

I'm genuinely curious, if Shantae does get in will the Reimu posters just say "who cares about Smash anyhow" or will there be "fuck Smash" posts

As a Reimuposter, I actually play Smash, so no.

Arle Nadja!

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So it'll be "fuck Smash" posts then

I'll wake up for starters

Frogger would be kino. He would be a smaller, faster Simon who grapples instead of throwing projectiles.

I won't drop a game because of some petty rosterfag shit. If anything, if by some miracle Shantae gets in, Reimu's possible inclusion would be far more justified in a future Smash game.

>cartoony explosives

Maybe one day, it'll be tail time...

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Sakurai himself said that he made Snake mainly use explosives to make him more cartoony

She was in the movies but she got cucked out of the protagonist role hard, and just like the rest of the game characters she dies, also

>Also don’t fucking say they can just “shoot and shoot harder” when you’re literally replying to a post with a moveset that DOESN’T reply on guns.
while true, her main gimmick is literally using her tanky controls with a hand gun, the issue is exactly why the moment you take their fire arms they lose what make then have potential in the first place.

But the explosives themselves are not cartoony.

Why would they take them away though? You could “take away what makes them unique” to like 90% of the cast, but why do it?

Yes they are. If they aren't, you'd have limbs and guts flying everywhere.

Yeah because shooting the floor with a rocket launcher or a remotely controlled missile are not cartoony enough.

>the response is optimism
Wholesome. But "some miracle?" Why would Reimu be more likely than anyone at this point? If there's a likely female, I'd nominate a Namco girl, or maybe someone like Cadence who just got a shitton of first-party attention.
Don't worry, I'm one of the weebs who wanted Isaac playable so my never-ever cucks me whenever I assist trophy a bitch. There's no competition here, but what makes Reimu more likely than other ladies?

Rent free

user... Reimu might not be particularly likely, but I'm confident she's getting in before any other indie character, especially one like Shantae that has no presence outside of rosterfagging whatsoever.

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Nah, Undertale is far more likely. Nintendo actually pushes Undertale worldwide, unlike Touhou where it's hardly mentioned out of Japan

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Not being entirely realistic is not the same as being cartoony.

That’s unrealistic, but not cartoony. If that’s all it takes to be “cartoony” then regular guns would be in just fine, but they’d just knock you back the same way the bazooka does.

Undertale is literally part of Touhou's legacy. If Frisk is getting in, it's after Reimu.
Honestly, I'd say Undertale should wait for at least Smash 6 before getting in considering how new it is.

trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=/m/068h9f,undertale
Plus it's more popular than Touhou worldwide anyhow

Most likely to keep the rating of the game, the characters in the game clearly can't use realistic guns, even if you have Joker in smash with his gun you can clearly see it's a literal model toy gun, the problem is that we don't know how much realistic they can't be enough to work.

>Undertale is literally part of Touhou's legacy.
No? Toby Fox never worked under ZUN or anything. Also if this was the case then Dante would have gotten in over Bayonetta, or anyone over Cloud.
>If Frisk is getting in, it's after Reimu.
Considering that they've always gone with what's most popular, I'd say Frisk is way more likely if they wanna sell DLC

>from the most popular and successful Japanese indie franchise
>responsible for growing the doujinshi scene
>was so big and dominant in the doujinshi scene that it was literally too big for Comiket, and a new convention had to be made dedicated entirely to Touhou

Popularity is only temporary. Touhou has the longevity and has remained consistently popular for 2 decades. I think if anything "deserves" to be recognized more, it should be Touhou.

Nobody ever said that it wasn't. But popularity is volatile, it can change drastically and overall isn't a stable factor. Legacy is more important.

>Considering that they've always gone with what's most popular
Dude what? Where are Minecraft and Fortnite in the game again?

>Popularity is only temporary.
And it's what sells. Also Deltarune is in the process of being made.
>Touhou has the longevity and has remained consistently popular for 2 decades.
Popular in Japan, worldwide Undertale is more popular. Plus Undertale came out years ago and is still big.
>I think if anything "deserves" to be recognized more, it should be Touhou.
I disagree, honestly. If we were talking about big Japanese characters specifically then maybe

>PS2
>Wii
>DS
>PS3
>360
>PS4
>Xbox One
>PC
>Switch

Okami has more releases than half the fucking roster m8

PHOENIXBROS, WW@?

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>But popularity is volatile, it can change drastically and overall isn't a stable factor.
Well, considering they directly made some DLC choices based on their balot popularity, I'd say that legacy doesn't matter nearly as much as you say
Banjo was highly requested in the ballot, Steve wasn't. Sorry. That was popularity Nintendo could see.

>Okami has more releases than half the fucking roster
I dunno why you have to lie, you know good and well that most of those are ports of one game

They're going with what is the most deserving before going with what would sell the most. They're not gonna put a 3rd party series in if they aren't sure people will still remember it in 20 years.

Where the fuck is Edelgard?

Learn to read you retarded faggot, I said releases not games

Nintendo is well aware of what's popular outside of the ballot too, if you think Nintendo believes Banjo-Kazooie to be more popular that fucking Minecraft, you're literally retarded.

>And it's what sells. Also Deltarune is in the process of being made.
Touhou has a strong market in merchandising. Of course it'll sell, especially in Japan.

>Popular in Japan, worldwide Undertale is more popular. Plus Undertale came out years ago and is still big.
It's not all about popularity. Banjo is in over Steve because of a large and dedicated outcry from Smash fans, so unless you think that Minecraft fans outnumber Smash fans then you're severely mistaken in thinking popularity means everything.

>I disagree, honestly. If we were talking about big Japanese characters specifically then maybe
Touhou is big in Japan.

>They're going with what is the most deserving before going with what would sell the most.
But they've always gone with what would sell the most so far. And if this is what they truly DO believe, then you still haven't explained why Cloud got in over any other FF character, or Bayonetta over Dante.
>They're not gonna put a 3rd party series in if they aren't sure people will still remember it in 20 years.
Right, so don't add Reimu, I agree
I never said that Nintendo believes Banjo is more popular than Minecraft, just that it was far more requested for smash.
Boy you sure are getting defensive

>Well, considering they directly made some DLC choices based on their balot popularity
Literally only Banjo out of the 4 DLC we got so far was a ballot pick

Not in Smash

Fuck I forgot to go back to Anonymous after my last thread

>Touhou has a strong market in merchandising. Of course it'll sell, especially in Japan.
That's why I think it won't be chosen though, nobody outside of Japan knows Reimu.
>It's not all about popularity.
It seems to be so far though.
>Banjo is in over Steve because of a large and dedicated outcry from Smash fans
So Banjo is in... because of his popularity with Smash fans. Even though it's not about popularity. Ok.
>Touhou is big in Japan.
And Undertale is bigger worldwide, I showed that earlier

Sakurai directly mentioned that's why K. Rool got chosen, also Bayonetta was directly referenced to have been chosen because of ballot support.

>But they've always gone with what would sell the most so far
No, they haven't. They've gone with what was the most deserving. Otherwise we would have gotten Minecraft, Fortnite and some other mainstream shit.
>Right, so don't add Reimu, I agree
Are you retarded? Reimu is already over 20 years old, what makes you think people won't remember her in 20 years?
>I never said that Nintendo believes Banjo is more popular than Minecraft, just that it was far more requested for smash.
I'm fairly sure that's not what you said but whatever
>Boy you sure are getting defensive
So are you

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>nobody outside of Japan knows Reimu
Can this meme die already? You have absolutely no idea how popular Touhou is on the western internet.

>No, they haven't. They've gone with what was the most deserving.
I disagree, and I'd like to hear why Cloud was most deserving and not most popular.
>Are you retarded? Reimu is already over 20 years old, what makes you think people won't remember her in 20 years?
Nobody knows her outside of Japan and she's 20 years old, what makes you think they'll remember her now?
>I'm fairly sure that's not what you said but whatever
It it exactly what I said.
>So are you
You're the one who started accusing me of being retarded because I disagreed with you

>That's why I think it won't be chosen though,
Fair assumption, it's not like that's a rule that is impossible to break. Marth and Lucas were from Japan exclusive games during their inclusion.

>nobody outside of Japan knows Reimu.
And Touhou has a fanbase audience in the West. Just because you've never seen them or interacted with them doesn't mean they don't exist.

>So Banjo is in... because of his popularity with Smash fans. Even though it's not about popularity. Ok.
Like I and many people have said earlier, the Minecraft audience is a far larger and more lucrative audience to go after. If all Nintendo cared about was sales, they'd get Steve.

>And Undertale is bigger worldwide, I showed that earlier
You're arguing in circles. I'm aware Undertale is popular worldwide, it's just that Touhou has the edge of being more popular in Japan, the country where the game is being made.

From one Genofag to another, how can we refute this?

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Chosen undead seems to be a popular pick for these posts but i really do hope we see something like it. That or a monster hunter character

>I disagree, and I'd like to hear why Cloud was most deserving and not most popular.
Cloud was the most deserving FF character because he was the most iconic. And yeah, all the series we got so far have legacy for a reason. Being deserving is what matters.
>Nobody knows her outside of Japan and she's 20 years old, what makes you think they'll remember her now?
What? This sentence legit doesn't make sense
>You're the one who started accusing me of being retarded because I disagreed with you
If you don't want people to call you retarded then don't go on Yea Forums stop posting retarded stuff.

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>Fair assumption, it's not like that's a rule that is impossible to break.
It's not impossible to break, but I don't see why you'd assume they would when they're trying to sell DLC worldwide
>And Touhou has a fanbase audience in the West.
I mean, disagreed. That's all I can say.
>Like I and many people have said earlier, the Minecraft audience is a far larger and more lucrative audience to go after. If all Nintendo cared about was sales, they'd get Steve.
But Banjo was more highly requested by Smash fans. You know, the people who primarily buy and play Smash.
>You're arguing in circles. I'm aware Undertale is popular worldwide, it's just that Touhou has the edge of being more popular in Japan, the country where the game is being made.
I'll agree that Touhou is more popular there, but you're arguing in circles too. You even acknowledge that Undertale is more popular worldwide. You know, the place Nintendo wants to sell the DLC at.

>Cloud was the most deserving FF character because he was the most iconic.
I think you're just making up your own arbitrary rules on what characters are ok
>And yeah, all the series we got so far have legacy for a reason.
Kinda like Persona's long legacy on Nintendo right
>What? This sentence legit doesn't make sense
It does. She's been around for 20 years and nobody outside of Japan knows her. How is that even confusing?
>If you don't want people to call you retarded then don't go on Yea Forums stop posting retarded stuff.
If you don't want people calling you defensive then stop acting defensive

>Because there's something even more popular that means nobody knows about it
Actual retard

...What are you even trying to say user

Generally, if one thing is far less popular than the other, that's how it works user. Good job. People don't know unpopular thing as much.

>I think you're just making up your own arbitrary rules on what characters are ok
No lol. FF7 is the face of the series, of course Cloud was gonna be chosen to represent it. Same goes for Joker for Persona.
>Kinda like Persona's long legacy on Nintendo right
Where the fuck did I mention fucking Nintendo? Quit moving the goalposts. Persona is a series that's over 20 years old, of course it has legacy.
>It does. She's been around for 20 years and nobody outside of Japan knows her. How is that even confusing?
You managed to turn it into an actually readable sentence, too bad what you're trying to say is factually wrong though.
>If you don't want people calling you defensive then stop acting defensive
Where did I complain about you calling me defensive? Why should I care about what a reddit/twitter refugee thinks of me on an anonymous board?

Here, as usual. I think we need more shitposting material.

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>It's not impossible to break, but I don't see why you'd assume they would when they're trying to sell DLC worldwide
I'm not saying she's likely. No one is saying that besides that one dumbass who spamming that fake "leak"

>And Touhou has a fanbase audience in the West.
This is not a matter of opinion. Touhou factually has a fanbase in the West.

>But Banjo was more highly requested by Smash fans. You know, the people who primarily buy and play Smash.
Nintendo already said that they were interested in expanding upon new audiences. The doujinshi/otaku audience would be good one to go after, especially after Sony's decision to censor their games.

>I'll agree that Touhou is more popular there, but you're arguing in circles too. You even acknowledge that Undertale is more popular worldwide.
I already acknowledged that you idiot. You're the one who's stagnating on this topic. Also, Dragon Quest is more popular in Japan, so I think you're putting far too much importance on Western popularity.

So because they don't know it as much it means nobody knows about it? Great logic lmao

It's Kasumi and Leon.
Leon continues the Belmont trailer and Kasumi continues the Ken trailer.

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>Joker's the face of Persona
He's just the most recent protag, user
>Where the fuck did I mention fucking Nintendo?
We're actively discussing Smash bros, retard
>Persona is a series that's over 20 years old, of course it has legacy.
...On Playstation
>You managed to turn it into an actually readable sentence, too bad what you're trying to say is factually wrong though.
No, I'm right, I even linked those google trends to prove it. Let me guess, you have no proof she's popular, do you?
>Where did I complain about you calling me defensive
Well probably when you kept using ad homenims just because someone was point out how you're wrong

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>Everyone just knows about an unpopular thing, trust me!
How... not convincing or compelling at all.
>I'm not saying she's likely.
I'm glad we can both agree on that
>This is not a matter of opinion. Touhou factually has a fanbase in the West.
And I can factually say that it seems to be pretty minuscule, based on the google metrics
>Nintendo already said that they were interested in expanding upon new audiences.
Then how come Touhou has never been pushed by Nintendo out of Japan before? They've hardly even mentioned the Switch games in their directs.
>I already acknowledged that you idiot. You're the one who's stagnating on this topic.
You seem to be arguing the exact same thing, so I don't see how you're not stagnating.
>Also, Dragon Quest is more popular in Japan, so I think you're putting far too much importance on Western popularity.
Dragon Quest is already in the game though, and Sakurai mentioned that characters like Ridley were largely considered due to Western popularity.

She's not in go the fuck away

He's both the most recent and the most iconic, Persona 5 did way better than the others. Joker has been the face of Atlus for the past few years.
>On Playstation
And so WHAT? It's still *fucking* legacy. Why the fuck should it not count because it's on playstation? You're not making any sense. At least try.
>No, I'm right, I even linked those google trends to prove it
At this point you're just being retarded on purpose.
Just because it's less popular than Undertale in the US doesn't means it's not popular at all. I don't even know why I have to explain this.
>Complaining about people calling him things on Yea Forums
user... I think you should go back to where you came from, you're not ready for this board yet

>Then how come Touhou has never been pushed by Nintendo out of Japan before? They've hardly even mentioned the Switch games in their directs.
Maybe because it's not on their fucking consoles lmao

>He's both the most recent and the most iconic
He's most recent but Door was always most iconic, he still wins to this day on fan polls
>And so WHAT? It's still *fucking* legacy. Why the fuck should it not count because it's on playstation?
Why should it count because it's on Playstation? You haven't actually made an argument.
>Just because it's less popular than Undertale in the US doesn't means it's not popular at all.
But user, that doesn't mean it IS popular. And pointing out that people talk about Touhou on Yea Forums isn't proving people know about it.
>user... I think you should go back to where you came from, you're not ready for this board yet
Sorry I keep proving you wrong, I guess I'm making you quite upset
>Maybe because it's not on their fucking consoles lmao
They have numerous Switch games, brainlet.

You always spam this shit but everytime someone asks for a moveset you disappear, I wonder why that is waifufag?

>And I can factually say that it seems to be pretty minuscule, based on the google metrics
I'd say it curently has a bigger following than Bayonetta pre-Smash DLC

>Then how come Touhou has never been pushed by Nintendo out of Japan before? They've hardly even mentioned the Switch games in their directs.
I don't work at Nintendo, and you're bonkers if you want to deny Touhou's popularity there when it has a biannual convention

>You seem to be arguing the exact same thing, so I don't see how you're not stagnating.
Bruh, you were literally repeating the same argument like an NPC.

>Dragon Quest is already in the game though, and Sakurai mentioned that characters like Ridley were largely considered due to Western popularity.
And Hero was added because of DQ's Japanese popularity and legacy. Why can't Reimu be added for the same reason?

>I don't work at Nintendo, and you're bonkers if you want to deny Touhou's popularity there when it has a biannual convention
I never denied Touhou's popularity in Japan...?
>Bruh, you were literally repeating the same argument like an NPC.
Dude this is the pot calling the kettle black. C'mon.
>And Hero was added because of DQ's Japanese popularity and legacy. Why can't Reimu be added for the same reason?
Because Square is actually interested in pushing DQ outside of Japan, meanwhile they have never seemed that invested in pushing Touhou outside of Japan.

Because Reimu literally doesn’t exist anywhere outside of Japan

>Door
No idea who that is. I doubt he's more iconic than Joker when P5 skyrocketed the series tho.
>Why should it count because it's on Playstation? You haven't actually made an argument.
It shouldn't count because it's on playstation, it should count because it's legacy. The console is completely irrelevant.
>But user, that doesn't mean it IS popular.
Yeah nevermind you're just pretending alright. No way someone can be this stupid.
>Sorry I keep proving you wrong, I guess I'm making you quite upset
Sure buddy
>They have numerous Switch games, brainlet.
Those are fangames, advertizing them would still be advertizing the main series as they would need to credit it.

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>Haloid could become a reality
miss u monty

>This meme again
You have no idea how popular Touhou is on the western internet user.

>Because Square is actually interested in pushing DQ outside of Japan, meanwhile they have never seemed that invested in pushing Touhou outside of Japan.
Not true
A: Will we ever see more official Touhou games in the West?
Z: It’s something that I’ve been thinking about for a long time, and it’s something that I want to do. It really just comes down to finding the time to do it.
dualshockers.com/touhou-interview-creator-zun-talks-past-present-and-future-of-his-touhou-project/

>No? Toby Fox never worked under ZUN or anything. Also if this was the case then Dante would have gotten in over Bayonetta, or anyone over Cloud.
bru toby fox literally met zun and personally requested him to release the newest touhou game demo on steam so he can play it. toby fox has been a touhoufag since he was 10 years old.

>Legacy is more important.
Dragon Quest Hero would like a word

>No idea who that is.
If you don't know what you're talking about then why discuss Persona stuff like you know what's up?
>Yeah nevermind you're just pretending alright. No way someone can be this stupid.
But it's completely true. You said
>Just because it's less popular than Undertale in the US doesn't means it's not popular at all.
But the point is, that doesn't mean it's popular at all. In fact, all that means is that it's less popular than Undertale, that's all.
>Sure buddy
I dunno how this makes you seem less upset
>Those are fangames
The argument was that the Switch had no Touhou games, this is classic goalpost moving. Also is
nintendo.com/games/detail/touhou-kobuto-v-burst-battle-switch/
Really a fangame?

>western internet
A world exists outside of Yea Forums, user

>A series that's over 30 years old
>With the character even having alts for older Heroes
?????????????

YouTube, user.

I don't have a stake in this argument, but the only Touhou non-fangame that's currently either on or coming to Switch is Antinomy of Common Flowers.

DQ has the most legacy out of ANY fucking DLC pick. Persona is small time compared to DQ. DQ literally invented the modern JRPG genre.

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Hero was a japan request and Sakurai wanted Joker and Plant.

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Yes, that game is a fan game. The only official Touhou game coming to Switch is Antinomy of Common Flowers. ZUN doesn't put mainline (the bullet hells) on consoles.

>If you don't know what you're talking about then why discuss Persona stuff like you know what's up?
For the same reason you're discussing Touhou
>In fact, all that means is that it's less popular than Undertale, that's all
Yes, exactly. Thus the point you were trying to make is garbage.
>The argument was that the Switch had no Touhou games, this is classic goalpost moving
How when advertizing them would literally be advertizing a licence they don't have any official game of on their consoles? And yes what you linked is a fangame

If hes in as a boss thatd be neat. Im actually shocked they didnt make him one alongside galleom since they could of just updated his brawl boss model and moveset like they did Galleom.

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It's popular on the western internet in general, not just Yea Forums.

FF got a rep before DQ despite its legacy. And you know why? Because it was the more popular of the two. It was a character Smash fans have wanted since Brawl.

Pretty sure the ballot also is what was the final push needed to give ridley a playable form finally over making excuses.

>If all else fails, make shit up
Every time

That article is actually good proof of Touhou's audience in the West
>I was able to attend ZUN’s Touhou panel at AX 2016 and was surprised to see one of the biggest rooms at the event being filled to capacity by fans. When ZUN took the stage, beer in hand, the crowd cheered and clapped as loud as they could. Even for some of his biggest fans, this was the first time seeing him in person.
Your typical zoomer Yea Forumsirgin wouldn't know about Touhou because it's always been more aligned towards anime/otaku audiences in the West. So yes, Touhou is marketable in the West and Japan knows this, otherwise ZUN wouldn't even be traveling to LA to begin with.

>Implying FF doesn't have legacy
It hardly makes a difference when both series are decades old

Otaku-centric YouTube channels do not represent the majority of people who play Smash Bros or Nintendo games, find me people referencing Reimu outside of Touhou videos and then you have a point.

user, this article is three years old and there's been no practical Touhou push in the west since

Just because you don't research this shit doesn't make it made up. Multiple polls from Japan back in the ballot days had at least one DQ protag on it

and as for Joker. gonintendo.com/stories/332449-atlus-on-how-joker-came-to-be-in-smash-bros-ultimate-chances-of

No, it makes a major difference if legacy is important. The one who made the genre should get in first if Legacy really matters.

Why don't you go look for yourself?

>How when advertizing them would literally be advertizing a licence they don't have any official game of on their consoles?
Because they could advertise the fangame which still represents the main IP?
Oh and the fact that fangames came out officially on consoles before the mainline should tell you how much ZUN doesn't care

Literally all characters have been confirmed to have been picked by Nintendo, and while Hero was a popular request in Japan, he wasn't *THE* most popular either, and that's clearly not why he was picked when his series was just as deserving as FF.

Legacy is mostly a bullshit buzzword people use to justify their DLC choice
>This character hasn't had a game in a decade
>Yeah but they have LEGACY

>user, this article is three years old and there's been no practical Touhou push in the west since
Touhou has never had a 'push' in fucking general. Everything about it has been fan driven because people like it. No company in Japan is advertising the new Touhou game on TV or in stores -- the only way its get known about is from ZUN's blogpost about it. Touhou has never had a push, everything about it has been fan driven. That convention that is held twice a year for Touhou? Fan operated. No company owns it. Only reason it has a no push in the west is because its pretty hard to get into if you're not some savy video game player.

Touhou's entire point is to be a doujin game and expand the doujin scene.

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>DLC
Suck my dick nigga I ain't paying shit

But they both made the genre though.

People would likely want to play the main IP over the fangames, which literally would be advertizing something Nintendo has no control over.
And yes, of course ZUN doesn't give a shit about his games being on consoles. No shit. Took you long to notice user.

>Literally all characters have been confirmed to have been picked by Nintendo
except Atlus confirmed Sakurai was the one who asked for Joker

>Joker joining the roster in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is mainly due to invitation from Masahiro Sakurai (Sora Ltd.), and thus contributed the collaboration. Because Mr. Sakurai likes Persona 5 very much, and I happened to like Super Smash Bros. very much. So, when (we) received the invitation, the first thing we thought is “Great!”, and we are very happy to build mutual corporation.

>and while Hero was a popular request in Japan, he wasn't *THE* most popular either
Do you know this for a fact?

She'd have to be wrenched from Sony's cold, dead hands first

nigger

>But they both made the genre though.
No, Dragon Quest did, and even then Tower of Drauga can be credited for inspiring FF, Zelda and even DQ.

No, here are your DLC fighters.

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>Touhou has never had a 'push' in fucking general.
Yeah and that's exactly why I have a problem with the idea that it would get into Smash.
>No company in Japan is advertising the new Touhou game on TV or in stores -- the only way its get known about is from ZUN's blogpost about it.
Gee I wonder why it has such middling popularity outside of Japan
>That convention that is held twice a year for Touhou? Fan operated.
Dude almost all conventions are fan operated
>Touhou's entire point is to be a doujin game and expand the doujin scene.
Doujins which have never at any level sold well outside of Japan

See this is the real issue I have with Touhou in Smash. People say "it's popular in Japan but of course it's ignored in the rest of the world" and then wonder why others question it getting in Smash

Just because Sakurai was the one to contact them doesn't means he picked the character. You're literally going against what he explicitely said in a tweet for the sake of patternfagging.

>kasumi
Retard
>trailer theory
RETARD

>People would likely want to play the main IP over the fangames
How is anyone who sees Touhou fan game on the store going to know about that stuff, especially if they're not Japanese. There isn't even an indication that that Switch game is fanmade.

Speaking of company pushing, I'm curious to see where Cannonball will end up once it releases.

Indies are goldfish, Reimu is a big goldfish, too big for her aquarium but too small for the ocean.

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>Yeah and that's exactly why I have a problem with the idea that it would get into Smash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This series doesn't need ads to be popular so it's not deserving
What the fuck

Unironically kino

>Joker joining the roster in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is mainly due to invitation from Masahiro Sakurai (Sora Ltd.)
What part of this don't you get?

>You're literally going against what he explicitely said in a tweet for the sake of patternfagging.
Or maybe it possible that he was lying?

If they talked about it in a direct or something like this user suggested they would have to credit ZUN for the characters and setting

>This series doesn't need ads to be popular so it's not deserving
In Japan specifically. Why even lie like this?

They've shown brief gameplay shots of the Touhou games in the past without crediting ZUN. Heck, the actual fangame doesn't even mention ZUN

Would honestly be 100% okay with this

>Sakurai lying publically is more likely than me misinterpreting a Japanese-to-English translated quote
lmao

Don’t make a claim you can’t support, I’m not finding Reimu evidence for you

This is literally the "slime is more important than the heros" argument

>Yeah and that's exactly why I have a problem with the idea that it would get into Smash.
Why -- whats your problem? Touhou is one of the biggest success stories in gaming and influenced a ton of indie. developers. Just because you don't see it stuck on every commerical means it shouldn't be in?
>Gee I wonder why it has such middling popularity outside of Japan
Actually, Touhou is popular in other Asian countries. It's very popular in China and Korea. Chinese Scientists even named a newly discovered flower after Reimu.
>Dude almost all conventions are fan operated
That's true for some. Minecon or Blizzcon isn't fan operated. My point is that Touhou has no corporate oversight -- everything is done by fans, for fans.
>Doujins which have never at any level sold well outside of Japan
Because you can't fucking buy them outside of Japan, retard. Why do you think people scan them online and translate them?

>See this is the real issue I have with Touhou in Smash. People say "it's popular in Japan but of course it's ignored in the rest of the world" and then wonder why others question it getting in Smash
It really, really isn't ignored in the rest of the world. It's one of the biggest video game fanbases and with a fanbase that is hugely creative and constantly creating content. Just because you don't bother with it doesn't mean its 'not popular'. I don't know shit about DQ but I understand why its in.

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What?

But he suggested they actually cover the game for a long time

>the virgin clean and readable meme vs the chad clusterfuck and messy edit

You do know that he doesn't speak a lick of English right? His tweet would likely have to been translated by someone else.

There should be a cleaner version of this, the idea is there but it's a mess

Or maybe just typed directly by someone else. It didn't seem like a translation desu

>HURRRRR WHO'S GOING TO BE IN SMASH
aren't you retards tired of this? you've made and maxed out hundreds of threads at this point
what in the actual fuck is wrong with you

>Why -- whats your problem?
I mean, I think I just explained myself. They've never tried to push it outside of Japan at all, so I have a hard time believing they'd go right from no worldwide exposure to in Smash Bros.
>Actually, Touhou is popular in other Asian countries.
Ok, I'm talking about worldwide.
>That's true for some.
No, that's true for most. Minecon and Blizzcon are two very obvious exceptions, don't be silly.
>Because you can't fucking buy them outside of Japan, retard.
You... can, actually. At conventions. But they sell for dirt cheap, even the translated ones.
>Why do you think people scan them online and translate them?
Because people like free porn, user.
>It really, really isn't ignored in the rest of the world.
Well, it is actually. People on Yea Forums knowing of it doesn't mean it's popular in the slightest.
>It's one of the biggest video game fanbases
In Japan maybe, but that's been the whole point of all this.
>Just because you don't bother with it doesn't mean its 'not popular'.
I mean, it's because nobody outside of Japan really bothers with it, user.
>I don't know shit about DQ but I understand why its in.
Probably because Square is actively trying to push the series worldwide, and they've been doing so for literal decades

That person would have to be translating what he tells them.

Nemesis is not a generic enemy or forced mascot though, he is literally just an one antagonist with a game name after himself that became quite the popular enough to be shoved in crossovers by capcom, even popped up in games unrelated to him at all.

>Because people like free porn, user.
doujin doesn't mean porn you retard
there's tons and tons of translated non-h touhou doujins that people really enjoyed

yes and no

The most popular ones are the hentai doujins, user.

Does it matter? Whatever we get there will be "Reimufags BTFO" posts. Personally I think neither will get in simply because of the sheer competition of the third parties. Even if Sakurai considers 2hu, I doubt that it would be at the top of his priority list.

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user stop picking on the Reimufaggot already

Stop asking for or talking about characters that have nothing to do with Nintendo.

ironically touhou has the lowest % of porn doujins when it comes to comes to doujin series

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you must be thinking of fate

Post mods with one of your most wanted in them if they have them.
youtube.com/watch?v=bLeJf5_n3Xw

Touhou has the highest rate of non-H doujins, too.

*Ahem* ACKTUALLY it's Maria-sama ga Miteru
japanator.com/touhou-is-way-too-popular-on-the-doujinshi-scene-14537.phtml
I only know this because I'm yuri trash

youtube.com/watch?v=GzsAvdjmQgc

god i love my waifus ;3c

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youtube.com/watch?v=WJpMWfHWPvc

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>but I really didn't know it was *that big*
That’s disgusting!

>Dream C Club and Queen’s Blade at 94%
holy fuck

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Why is Hayate that high?

>pregnant bayonetta
Why is there hardly any art of this anywhere? Fuck bros.

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I think she's just fat there user

based doom marine chad

boy do i got some more bayonetta for you bayofags.

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DQ11 means nothing since we knew it years in advanced
Also he said several
>Builders 2
Not a port, its simultaneously releasing on other systems

whoops my hand slipped once again

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>trailer theory
Hero already bunks it
Banjo only reused assets of K Rool's because of the connection between meta wise
They just reused assets to make things easier on themselves
They didn't pick the DLC based on how many assets they can reuse
That's just stupid