Umineko

Can you refute him Yea Forums?

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A bear moved the rock and carried off jesus's body.

Hmm but wasn't Benedict XVI the one who made the church more conservative and brought it back to it's root e.g reintroducing Latin studies or what that shit was?

Those hands are drawn way too good

>No Human
What creatures besides humans could be capable of breaking through this red truth? Let's do this!

Need the POV detective side to reach a proper conclusion

based

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If no one could move the rock, how did the rock get there in the first place?

>rock placed there by people
>people could totally not have moved it again

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BTFO

Why didn't he save us?

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Christianity was made up by Jews, so they would have some other retards fighting and dying in wars with Islam.

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Small bombs were placed on the rock

>No human could have moved the rock blocking the entrance
Then how did it get moved there in the first place?

this is the brain power of the average atheist

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so I finally got to chapter 2 and skipped all the boring shit with george and shannon plus jessica and finally got to battler and beatrice. this is where it gets good right? I just wanna see battler take her on

Overrated shit thread?

No, this isn't the Sony movie game thread.

How could no human move the rock when the rock had to be put into place after Jesus was entombed?

Oh man, finished Umineko on the weekend after marathoning from episode 1 all the way to the end. What a fucking ride.

I'm also going to admit that I did not understand what the whole thing was about 'till like episode seven. I just thought it was about how Beatrice used magic and Battler had to somehow rationalize how it could've been done without it to "win the game".
Took me like three episodes to get why Beatrice doesn't just go "Magic is real" in red in the first place.

Feeling like an absolute brainlet, but I blame reading them all in one go and not having the time to chew about what I've actually just read.

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Episode 2 is one big tutorial to how the chessboard and arguments work, 3 is where it actually starts.
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The entrance is downhill so the rock was at the entrance for a second before continuing to roll downward.

Easy
IT NEVER HAPPENED, it's a bullshit story written by humans

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And to add to that - having read like one or two mystery novels I was woefully underprepared for the whole thing, people really should recommend that you read some mystery stuff before going in, I feel like I could've gotten a lot more out of it had I read twenty or so closed-room situations before.

Overall I'd say that it's real fucking brilliant and the only critique I have is that the split personality shit is fucking bullshit and threw me off simply because I refused to believe it 'till the last second.

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But all things written are things written by humans

it seems like it would be a lot less effort to just lie about him being placed in the tomb to begin with and then bribe a few people to say they saw it happen

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Someone put small bombs in the rock and blew it up!

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that's where you're wrong, bucko

not an argument.

your kidding me?

Just go read it dumbass, it’s a fucking book.

>only this book is wrong,the rest is the truth
lol

>so I finally got to chapter 2 and skipped all the boring shit with george and shannon plus jessica
I see what the laughing man means when he says without love it cannot be seen. You're well on your way to becoming a goat.

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The tape I placed on the rock was removed so someone opened the tomb from the outside
This level of reasoning is only posisible for Erika Furudo

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A ghost possessed the rock and moved it.

Religions claim their books are written by God and therefore true

>Jesus wasn't in the tomb after the tomb was sealed off

>There are other ways of exiting the tomb than using the entrance blocked by the rock

>The rock wasn't in the same place where it was left

Bakatrice

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i hope you read higurashi before

What were those goats anyway? Just internet theory makers/wannabe intellectual rapists?

Nope. Apparently it's not connected?

what a dumbass
go and read it ffs, I really hate it when people only read umineko and not higurashi, i personally think that higu is better than umineko.
>not connected
they are connected, but you don't need to read higurashi before to understand umineko

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>Just internet theory makers/wannabe intellectual rapists?
I think they represent people who either misunderstood and/or rejected central parts of the story such as the games being a way for Beato to confess her sins.
They also represent the theorycrafters around the incident that drove Ange into depression and caused her to lose trust in her family
One interesting thing in the manga is that Beato, being the part of Yasu that holds her feelings for Battler, meeting Ange is one of the things that gives her the chance to hope and live. So in many ways, it's Battler's love that keeps her going

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>Christianity was made up to fight Islam
>Islam didn't show up for another half a millennium
4/10, got me to respond

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Yes, and we all thank him for that.

I just got to that line where I’m at right now. That line was so cringe I didn’t even want her on my side anymore.

Jews are very cunning, user

How was Shannon so stacked? Why didn't George spot it? Didn't they go to a beach together!? Fucking asexual virgin.

Well fuck you too buddy, I was recommended to read Umineko and I didn't even know what Higurashi was before doing it. I'm going to read it later so don't sperg too hard about it.

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Mangafags are dum
play VN first original sprites

That line is unironically one of the best ones if you have read Higurashi before. Go and read it ahhhhhhhhhhhh.
Yeah I sperged out but god damn I fucking hate it when people recommend Umineko before Higurashi.

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Higurashi gave me an entirely different perspective on Bernkastel and her role in Umineko. Especially after you read the Letter From Bernkastel in tsubasa. My personal theory is that she really doesn't want to be a villain in this story and is searching for a miracle even now, but it would have to be one that leaves Featherine entertained or else she wouldn't recognize it.

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do i have to read higurashi for the new chapter that comes out in sept
apparently people think lambda is miyo or somethng?

Wait, the manga's decent? Apparently the anime's shit (OH DESIRE notwithstanding).

Guess I'll read it too!

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Every thread until we reach the Golden Land.

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Yes.
I think that Bernkastel is just (higurashi spoilers)all of the bad thoughts that manifested inside of Rika while she was held prisoner for 100 years.

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It's a lot more explicit and it also gives some interesting information that is useful in trying to find the way out of the tragedy which I think is what will happen in Saku. It gives the Rules for the tragedy in a fashion similar to the Rules for the Hinamizawa incident.

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So let me get this straight -
The end of the games from episodes 1-4 is caused by the island blowing up, right? Shouldn't I also then assume that Eva survived every episode?

What was the first episode about anyway? I understand that the games are about Beato apologizing, but shouldn't Battler be the proactive person considering the fact that he's still alive and Beato's dead?

it was the long con, user, dont buy into the jewish hype

>all of the bad thoughts that manifested inside of Rika while she was held prisoner for 100 years.
I think she's the manifestation of those bad thoughts too, but I also think that the conclusion is for her to give the same escape to people who had as much will as her.
Pic related. The first episode is a story for the murder as written by Yasu

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Also if you guys liked Higurashi/Umineko, you should read C;H too. It has the same uneasy feeling.

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>rock moved into place by people but people can't move it
seems like a logic error to me.

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Devil's Proof

Having outwitted the witch in her own game, I have become the strongest game master! As the one who understands the mystery completely, I can proclaim:

>>>/t/he+tomb+was+blocked+by+a+rock

How's that? The strongest red truth!

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Ah yeah, the bottled messages!
That's it!

Also - what were those bank checks mailed to families? Some sort of a
>I'm sorry you got involved in this
Thing?

She's just a composite being made up of all the dead Rikas across all the timelines

Part of me wants to wait in case Noah gets translated.

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>>I'm sorry you got involved in this
>Thing?
Because the servants who were accomplices or victims would almost certainly end up dead after she either deceived them into helping the murders or used them as pawns in the game, she wanted to at least try to atone.
So you basically have that right.
Then will the Rika who lived give them the Rokkenjima incident its happy ending? Since Bern is the Witch of Miracles who knows they do not occur, then is there a Witch of Miracles who witnessed a Miracle?
It would make sense with the quick flash of a character at :16 in the Saku opening
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God I hate that fucking UUU UUU
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UU BATTLER UUUUUUUU
UU BEATRISSU UU BEATRISSU UUU MAHOU UUU

>entering umineko threads before getting even through episode 4

witches did 9/11

Well maybe she shouldn't be so obnoxious? God, her being hit is absolute sex to my ears.

I knew something was wrong in the first episode when they say that she's fucking nine years old and starts going autistic about some fucking flower UU UU, for fucks sake.

Also why didn't Rose just hire a fucking babysitter?

NO IT CAN'T BE! Someone must've put small bombs in the building! There's no way that magic could bring down a building like that

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>disliking Maria is an excuse to get spoiled
retard

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Get off Yea Forums Rosa
Go take care of your kid.

t. Rosa

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You can't counter this blue truth!
>Rosa is a bad parent because she doesn't hire a babysitter for her child, even though Maria can entertain herself while alone.

Don't give me that bullshit about not seeing and love, I've got the killer theory right here that PROVES that she's a bad parent.

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I don't think you need to participate at all to enjoy the story. To me it's like Conan I don't even bother trying to figure out who did what at least not actively, and I enjoy the ride all the same.

Yeah I enjoyed it a ton, but reading archives about the game it seems like there was a lot of active speculation between episodes and whatnot, I feel a bit bad about missing that.

I finished it earlier this year and I feel the same. Hopefully there will be things to discuss about Ciconia once it comes out.

fucking bears

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MOOOOOOOOOT!!!!

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sloppy!

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