Anyone else feel like SSDs actually make games not feel as fun...

modern Total War games have multi minute long load times on my HDD

holy fuck. Maybe I haven't played as many as I thought

I do miss my slow as fuck hdd for playing rainbow 6. Forcing everyone to wait 5 mins while they scream at me made me horny every time.

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Cope harder poorfag

Would games still load noticeably faster if you have a OS SSD & data HDD with the games on the HDD?

I agree. We also need to bring memory cards back

He's got a point though.
Sometimes I don't have enough time to read the loading screens for hints.

Just pause the game right as the level starts

blame the devs. its like the people testing dont know what theyre doing

you know the press any key to proceed ?

>play old mmo with ssd
>missed all the tips and hint at every loading screens

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No loading screens have been a thing since the PS2 era.

quick loading times is a blessing.
But SSD for vidya is an absolute meme and worth laughing every time you see a retard shelling out 30 cents per gigabyte, where they could buy literally 10 times as much storage of SATA6 drive from reliable manufacturer/model line-up (WD Blue Desktop is top, after you increase head parking timeout to 5 min) that can easily pull 150MB/s of sequential read, and then defragment and allign your game folder data into a sequential track of sectors.

My Windows 7 is literally being loaded in less than 7 sec with such setup.

>allign your game folder data into a sequential track of sectors
How to do this?

He's trying to make defragmentation sound cool

dedicated defrag software lets you set up the location on cylinder for files (e.g. Auslogics Disk Defrag Professional)

I just wish loading screens with tips prompted me to hit space to continue or something. Sometimes, I just wanna read the tips.

it is functional solution for hard drives being bad at random sector read - 99% of game asset files (textures sounds etc) stay unchanged, so why not put them into continuous order on cylinder?

>NES/Genesis/SNES/N64
>cartridges
>loading screens barely exist and are short as fuck

I don't know the feel, OP, I always liked no loading screens.

im actually having this problem while playing morrowind. i miss having a brief breather for few seconds on every cell transition. now it's instant.

I unironically stopped playing that shitty ass game because of that. I bought Siege for a tenner on sale and though "I might like it", but no. The game's actual trash and the insane loading times are even worse. There's always 1-2 fags who take a full minute to load into the match.

>playing vita games
>loading times are worse than on UMD
how the fuck did they manage to win top retard prize so spectacularly?

No.

Sony is retarded, which is a shame, because they also make solid hardware. My PSP-1000 is still A1.

I have a 1.5 tb ssd and load my games almost exclusively off an external usb hdd. Checkmate faggots.

A lot of words were used here to say nothing. Mechanical is slow even at its best compared to SSD. I'm not saying you need NVMe but no. And also let W7 go, just classic start W8.1 to get the better indexing, explorer, and built in features. W10 I'll give you is still a pain to set up since its only worth it with LTS, but damn.

Use a defrag that isn't the default and don't constantly install and uninstall from your games/OS drive. Or just get a passable SSD and give zero fucks.

I get what you're saying but SSD's provide more benefits than instant loading screens. They make the game more snappy and smooth. I think in the future we will get artificial loading screens to keep a pace in transition.

>A lot of words were used here to say nothing.
yeah, that perfectly describes your 100% opinionated post.
No shit SSD are faster than HDD - nobody argued about that. What I was saying that you can immensely improve loading times and get rid of any stutter on any 100GB+ / open-world game to the point that SSD offers nothing more than diminishing returns for how expensive per GB they are.

>And also let W7 go, just classic start W8.1 to get the better indexing, explorer, and built in features. W10
I have all three.

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Bomberman ultra on ps3 had this problem. The game had loading screens but they went by so fast it was like 10 frames before it was gone complete with graphics and tips.

>100% opinionated
Yes it is an opinion that a faster technology that doesn't rely on moving parts is faster. And that an OS that has measurable difference is different. Say you weren't claiming it but you were wanking off about a WD blue drive.

>I have all three
Then stop recommending the one that has a superior replacement.

Back peddler harder numbnuts and stop misleading people that could honestly use real information. Fucking retard. I'm out.

>Then stop recommending the one that has a superior replacement.
are you actually retarded? Nobody recommended it - work on your reading comprehension, you dumb fuck.

Console ports, they're coded with mechanical console harddrive in mind so they expect you to sit there for minutes reading while it loads, on PC it loads in 3 seconds flat, real PC games will have you click after a load if there are hints but most will expect load times to be so fast they don't even put hints on there at all.

>system grinding through your cheap dying 5400RPM hard drive to load the game while gameplay keeps stuttering while engine streams new content
soul

>game instantly loads, no slowdown
soulless

I miss the tactile feel of grabbing a stack of cartridges. Feeling each one, inspecting the art on the front, deciding what you're going to play and then slapping that cart into the console and hitting that power button.

Discs are just to dainty and Digital game libraries are fucking ephemeral it's like they don't even exist outside your imagination, oh and don't get me started on those dinky ass handheld carts and micro SD-cards. Gameboy carts were the perfect size, everything after that was just too small.

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>Bought a TB SSD the other month
>tfw some games still have slow as shit loading screens
>especially japanese games for some fucking reason
This isn't what I was promised at all.
At least my computer boots up in 2 seconds now though which is cool - but hardly needed since I leave my shit on 24/7 anyway.
I sometimes wonder if I wasted money getting the TB SSD instead of just like a 250 or 500GB one. It's not like somewhat faster loading screens in video games matter these days since you can't even start playing until everybody, even those with shitty PCs, load in.

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Reminder that Sony literally considered pushing a firmware update to block SSDs from working in the PS4, due to believing it gave an unfair advantage in games after they started getting more popular.
Disgusting.

I plan on building a pc in the coming months to play games at 100+fps at 1440p. How will playing my consoles feel afterwards?

do you REALLY REALLY like spiderman/god of onions/bloodborne/the last of us? if not you can toss away your console.

>This is what console cucks actually believe
Imagine unironically defending loading screen times

I really like Japanese games.

>play dq11 on pc
>people keep mentioning text in loading screen
What loading screen?

>Thinking your only hard drive needs to be SSD
>Not getting a second n terabyte drive for general purpose storage

even more of a reason to ditch your console

>not setting your graphics to 8k so you sit there at 1fps for 3 years
c'mon man.

fuck off gramps, hard drives are ancient technology that will be completely dead once larger capacity flash memory comes down in price. 95% of people have no use for more than 2TB of storage anyway so there's no point in getting an HDD

>not having a 7200 rpm 2tb seagate drive instead of pleb tier 5400 rpm wd equivalent
get out

Games aren't "coded" to take advantage of SUPER fast loading. Look up comparisons on YouTube. Most games will load 3 times faster on an SSD.
SSDs are in order of magnitude faster than hard drives, but that doesn't translate to games as much. Keep HDDs out of your system, no one should use them anymore unless they wanna keep every single game downloaded at all times.

>he needs loading screen tips to play the game

Fucking casuals

How about you fuck yourself, you worthless shitcunt?

To be fair, they could just put an SSD on their consoles. It greatly decreases loading times.

Also, HOLY SHIT, I went to play in the house of a friend in a PS4, and the loading times are fucking hideous. I was always thinking the game had fucking crashed. Unbelievable that people still pass for shit like this in 2019.

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You buy an SSD so you don't have to deal with shitty ass HDDs anymore. No shit only having around 3 times faster load times for games isn't worth it for the price, but you get an SSD for the all around experience, not just games. Even the shittiest Chinese SSD you can find will be 50x faster than your hard drive. Retards still unironically buy 1TB HDDs for $30 when you can get a 500GB SSD for 50-80 bucks.

>put an SSD on their consoles. It greatly decreases loading times.
That's completely false. It's nowhere near the same as the 3x jump on PC. People have tested it before and consoles and SSDs don't mix at all as of right now.

Games should have a folder in the menu of loading screens that have displayed. Not having time to see them can be annoying. Bit not as annoying as sat staring at them for two minutes.

Some games I play have 5 minute load times. When I finally eventually upgrade, I'll definitely be getting an SSD. Because 5 fucking minute load times.

>5 fucking minute load times
are you gaming on zx spectrum or what?

Name one (1) game.
>inb4 KF2

>slapping that cart
>dainty
>dinky
Go to bed, grandpa.

>I finally eventually upgrade,
It's 30 fucking bucks for 240gb dude. Pirate one game, use the money to buy a chink ssd. Respect your time holy shit.

wow, that's pathetic

It's a video game nigga, not foreplay.

Not as pathetic as you, you pussy ass mistake of a person.

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7200rpm are unreliable af and with 30% get destroyed in 5 years, whereas based 5400rpm keeps spinning 15 years down the line like new

>source: my ass
as long as you're properly cooling your drives, which you should do anyways, failure rates on 7200 rpm drives are no higher than 5400 rpm drives.

This. I will take a slow longer lasting hdd to fill with anime, movies and porn. Ssd for games and programs.

>make it look like SSDs are way larger that HDDs
Nice

I like how you're so upset over loading its times, it's what the deciding factor was to stop playing.
Not it's gameplay mechanics, not it's optimization, not it's menus or options, not it's price model, not it's sound design, and not it's player base.

It's the minute it takes to load into a match.

I was surprised how small my ssd was when I got it, it's about the size of a usb stick

>hard drives are ancient technology that will be completely dead once larger capacity flash memory comes down in price
i'll be the first one to buy ssd when it hits 5 cents a GB mark (and then probably roll back cuz cheap unreliable piece of shit will keep wiping the data)
>95% of people have no use for more than 2TB of storage anyway
look at this pathetic bytelet over here

this is by far the dumbest thing I've read on Yea Forums this year.

You're absolutely right. Redditors have this insatiable need for dopamine, so they can't stand having to wait five whole seconds between areas.
>ZOOM ZOOM
>ME SAVE WORLD
>LOADING SCREEN? IT BAD
>ME WANT PAY $400 FOR 256 GB

you mad bro???

bump

I got too many hard drives on my rig.
Like 4x 8tb 7200rpm hd and 2x 1 tb Optane drives. I have a horde of data going on.

I think at one point I had every single major game released since 2016 on my pc and never play them.

>Instant loading screens and such just aren't video game-y
I'm almost 30 but I think you are becoming a boomer

How can you tell that?

>Instant loading screens and such just aren't video game-y.
How to spot someone who started with the ps3.

I don't have a slot free on my motherboard at the moment.
Is getting a extern SSD for games a viable option?

Do SSDs help with microstutter? I get it in a lot of games just moving around the world and I always wonder if it's maybe because I'm running it off an HDD.

>Anyone else feel like SSDs actually make games not feel as fun? Instant loading screens and such just aren't video game-y.
I surprisingly agree.
To make loading screens bearable and not an insufferable nuisance good old developers of yesteryear - not like the worthless subhuman shitter devs of today used to implement cool artwork, useful hints/tips or even game lore/story you could read upon while the game was loading.

SSDs are awesome, but if you intend on playing a lot of classic games pre Crysis make sure you still have a good old HDD in your computer just for those.

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No. Microstutter is 99% a GPU problem

I've got 1tb 860 Evo and I've noticed that everything loads fast as fug. For example, I never see any terrain loading in the new GTA when speeding really fast.

Fallout 4 still loads like shit for some reason.

fpbp

external as in SATA? sure.
External as in USB? only if it's USB 3.1 or above

>for some reason.

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No because this shit happens on regular 7200rpm hdds for older games already.

No, that's stupid. I could put a token in an arcade machine and instantly be playing the game. I could do the same with cartridge consoles, sans token. Slow loading times are anti-video game, and should be tweaked as much as possible.

SSDs get slower and slower the more you write on it, so it works out anyway before it dies.

>game has interesting tidbits of lore on the loading screen
>don't have time to read them because the game loads so fast

Those tisbits exist precisely because there's loading screens, so you have something to do while you wait. Whithout loading time, they'd be moved to other parts of the game.

all games are better with no loading screens and highest difficulty desu

I don't even have HDDs in my system, only SSDs

>highest difficulty
9 times out of 10 it's a poorly balanced meme difficulty