Assassin's Creed Origins thread

yes

no. i've checked

I liked it until the ending where Aya just ruined the game and my romaboo ass got rustled.

Amazing game. Maybe a bit repetitive but world exploration, locations, tombs, temples. I didn't even give a shit about Assassins Creed series before.

I was talking about porn movies obviously.

>tfw enjoying Odyssey so far(just killed stepdad)
wtf is wrong with me, at this rate I'm getting the goddamn season pass holy shit

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Dumbass, they couldn't have made it more obvious that was where it was going.

It's not always that obvious. I know because I fapped to Cleopatra from Asterix movie.

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I liked Origins but there was so little to toy with besides poison darts. they could've done so much more with the hawk for example. Arrows. Or not have carriages and ships on such short loops doing nothing once they arrive. Or the tamed animals. It's still solid but damn if you don't see it shine through how AAA time budget constricted they were.

I haven't played an Assassins Creed game since 2 came out, should I try this out?

Tour mode has no combat at all. You can just explore the map (climbing is available too) and listen to archeologists talking about certain thing. It's very cool addition.

>should I try this out?
Only if you like Egypt.

I want to fuck Cleopatra.

This

it's basically Witcher combat
only get it if you want a more rpg ish AC set in egypt

I think since assassins Creed 2 they have said that amunet killed Cleopatra and Caesar

Only a nerd actually read the british guy's lore writings, would have been so much better if it were just the same as the historical records.

>Best AC games
Assassins Creed, AC2, AC Black flag, AC Origins

>Good AC games
AC Brotherhood, AC Revelations, AC Rogue

>Meh AC games
AC3, AC Unity

>Bad AC games
AC Syndicate, AC Odyssey

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cleopatra wasn't brown tho
she was so pale people made up stories that she bathes in milk

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>Assassins creed
>historical

yeah it uses historical figures
they can make up fictional ones instead

She isn't brown ingame either you tard

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Imagine if asscreed had moding capablity, someone could actually make a decent game out of it then. The assets are there already, just the gameplay is missing.

>where's my opium pipe...
>i'll sleep with everyone... as long as he agrees to be executed the next morning
Based drugged slut

>when she goes to the milk bath

my 10 year old dick had never been harder

I don't like the mythological stuff tbqh
Or the Assassins stuff.
I just like the pretty map really.

What do you mean mythological?

It wasn't lore writings. You literally see her statue in AC2, since you're exploring an assassin's chamber

The first AC game looked incredible for the time, particularly the architecture. Nothing special now obviously but back then people were in disbelief at the first screenshots.

looks pretty black to me.

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Nothing's wrong with enjoying something you like, user. I unironically enjoy Watch_Dogs and have played it multiple times through.

Isn't this Queen Tiye? They never found Cleopatra's tomb and mummy.

>I unironically enjoy Watch_Dogs and have played it multiple times through.
Too far, get out.

>with Cleopatra
So you get to play as whoever you want?

What if I want Egypt but I really don't want RPG elements or Witcher combat?

you're missing out on the best possible ending by doing that

Why is Origins the best and Odyssey the worst when they're the same shit but in different settings?

Yes, then you still have Black Flag and Unity ahead of you if you get another itch for AC at some future time, which are both better as AC games. And maybe Brotherhood, depending on how much time you have on your hands and how much you like these games.

>Unity
>better than 2

They're 90% similar, but that differing 10% really makes or breaks it.

Odyssey is more grindy. Wayyy more grindy. Expect to constantly be scrounging for EXP and materials and constantly having to sidetrack from the main quest for 10's of hours. Also a lot more "menu time" because of the sheer amount of trash loot and weapons you have to sort through and sell, upgrade dismantle, etc.

The combat is a lot different. Origins is focused on blocking, parries, and combos, whereas Odyssey is focused on magical cooldown abilities. (And you can't have a shield in a GREECE game)

The worlds are different. Beyond just Greece/Egypt, Odyssey's world feels a lot more "disneyland" theme parky with a bunch of made up monuments and a bunch of similarly tacky stuff.

The main character& writing in Odyssey is a lot worse. They had to write for both genders at once, and make every romance character bisexual. It just really makes it bland and forgettable. Even ignoring that, the MC's personality traits are boring. Dialogue options don't help, all they change is which 2 people live or die at the end.

Odyssey also goes full retard with the main story. Your grandpa is King Leonidas. You are a Superhuman hybrid with a magic spear. Your father is Pythagoras, who is 300 years old. You have to hunt the Minotaur, Cyclops, Medusa, and Sphinx.

I could go on and on, but those are the big ones. There's also a lot of small touches missing too. You can see them here.

youtu.be/DuwHsaQU2Bg

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In tour mode, yeah! It throws everything out and you can just select a character and explore.
youtube.com/watch?v=mv-WU2dgwE8

>And you can't have a shield in a GREECE game
For what purpose? Greek combat was all about shield use, and it's not like they'd have to develop a whole new system since Origins had shields. What gives?

Is it true that Origins had time limited content that you can't get anymore? I recall something about I think it was an Anubis boss fight? That had a limited window of availability.

same reason why some devs take away certain mechanics in later games: so "it feels different", not realizing that you can also make it different by adding something instead of removing something

Loved Origins, but this mode was shit, boring, and full of inaccurate stuff and blatant lies, and I'm not just talking about the infamous inclusivity vase.

Special bosses are cycled I think.

you can't get hard at 10 retard

Reminds me of Pokemon and how the devs keep taking away features from the previous games despite them being liked for the sake of giving each game its own flavour.

I didn't kill him tbqh

That's quite a slew of downgrades. Surely there's a reason for that. Is the map noticeably bigger, for example?

It's bigger but most of the new space is just empty ocean. And a lot of it is empty wilderness.

Just like regular museums, then!

And is it just me, or have museums been really dumbing down their displays over the past 20 years or so? Used to be they'd have huge paragraphs of information, now it's all bite sized brainlet fun facts that don't tell you shit.

i heard the dlc was really shitty and railroads you down one path instead of giving you options

Yes she apparently was. Keep in mind there are multiple sculptures of her, but going by this illuminated manuscript she was a nog.

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>Rogue below Black Flag when it's basically the same but with less tailing missions and more refined gameplay

I'll never get this.

probably true for the Darius one but I've seen the 2nd DLC and it looks open as hell

>Your grandpa is King Leonidas
>Your father is Pythagoras

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>inaccurate stuff and blatant lies, and I'm not just talking about the infamous inclusivity vase
Like what?

Can you bone her in-game?

Pirate setting is more appealing to me, Eddy was more interesting than Shay, Black flag was longer and felt less janky/B-team.

Rogue is good too, Black flag is just the king.

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Yep, and chosenites have been doing a ton of "corrections" as well(at least in england).

>tfw like ancient greece more but Cleopatra is hot as fuck
which one do I play Yea Forums?

Guess it's just a preference thing. I fucking love the snowy colonial America setting, and liked Shay more than Edward. Edward was good when he was just an asshole pirate out for money, but the more he falls for the Assassin bullshit he's less and less fun. I hated the Assassins in 3 and 4 so it was nice playing as the other side in Rogue.

Also why does AA never show up in steam screenshots? It's not this jaggy in-game.

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yeah, you can only fight Anubis, Serket and Bastet once per month.

*actually, you can fight them as often as you want, but you'll get their loot only once a month.

Is it just bosses then? Do they have associated exclusive drops or something?

Play both. Just give yourself time in between the two, so you don't get burnt out

If you like Greece then Odyssey will just piss you off with how much they got wrong

So just because Poseidon was incompetent, that was justification to holocaust an entire population? Is Aletheia just as retarded as Layla?

>Fighting actual gods and mythological creatures in Assassin's Creed

What the fuck man?

There are three bosses, and it's not once a month. 2/3 are available per WEEK. Then they rotate to the third one, with a repeat of one of the other two. Each boss gives 4 drops total, but one per week. You have to wait until the next cycle to get another drop. So you can get all items in like 4-6 weeks or whatever.

Dunno about Odyssey, but to be fair for Origins, it's not apart of the story. The mission description calls it a glitch and says you have to fight it to stabilize it or some shit.

In Origins it's "the Animus fucked up".
In Odyssey it's "lol PoE/Aita's genetic engineering fuckery"

In origins they're explicitly non canon, just for fun "glitches". No characters comment on them ingame at all, it's purely for the player

In Odyssey however you have to hunt mythological creatures as part of the main quest for your 300 year old father Pythagoras so you can become immortal too and open the gates of Atlantis (lol)

Curse of Pharaohs DLC introduces literally Egyptian underworlds. You are fighting with mummies of Nefertiti or Rameses. And it is the best DLC they ever released for any AC game

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It's cool, I just wish it wasn't actually canon. Yeah yeah the apple of Eden makes illusions and all that but it's still stupid when they try to make it actually canon, as in Bayek actually fought mummies and anubises and giant scorpions. At least it was DLC so the main game stayed more or less authentic.

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Tell me everything, I want to get angry.

Ubishit is one of the worst fucking publishers out there, and the people who keep buying their low effort reskinned "games" have IQs similar to that of a nigger.

I like how you can visit his tomb in modern and ancient era.

youtube.com/watch?v=H0kH5h1Z1Ic

>In Odyssey however you have to hunt mythological creatures as part of the main quest for your 300 year old father Pythagoras so you can become immortal too and open the gates of Atlantis
What is this bullshit? Why are you the specialest snowflake with Leonidas as your grandparent and Pythagoras as your father who for some reason is 300 years old? Why?

Oh, fuck. I forgot this cunt is part of the game.

They just severely misrepresent the history, culture, architecture, and even geography of ancient Greece. It's like the disneyland version of Greece. Everything is dumbed down and made more "modern" and sarcastic and politically correct.

There is a quest where you are skewing the votes between Perikles and Kleon for leadership of Athens, and Kleon goes on a rant about how he's going to "MAKE ATHENS GREAT AGAIN" and then the crowd boo's him and calls him a mean orange ape.

Then they mix in a lot of fantasy/mythology stuff with the "history" stuff so there's a big disconnect there.
Oh yeah, also there are no phalanxes and you can't use a shield.

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>Why?
The magic staff he has makes him immortal and is the key to Atlantis and saving the world and shit. No, I'm not making this up.

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too bad it's ruined by the shit UI and even shittier gameplay

I love how they declared Kassandra the canon character but then later stated in a dev stream that like two thirds of the playerbase picked Alexios.

>There is a quest where you are skewing the votes between Perikles and Kleon for leadership of Athens, and Kleon goes on a rant about how he's going to "MAKE ATHENS GREAT AGAIN" and then the crowd boo's him and calls him a mean orange ape.
You could atleast tell the truth. The crowd loves Kleon after he calls out Perikles and even throws fruit at him.

into the eternal trash then

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that's because it doesn't make sense for a woman to be a soldier going around Greece fighting people

I picked kassandra after playing the tutorial with both. Alexios voice was slightly too goofy and boisterous, his running animation looks like he shit himself, and it felt MUCH MUCH weirder playing as a big bulky guy and not having a shield.

Ideally neither Kassandra or Alexios would've been the protag, or at least I'd have liked a better version of Alexios .

>no phalanxes
>in ancient Greece
>where literally everything was solved by a good ol' phalanx off

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I may be confusing two different scenes, it's hard to remember, but I'm certain both those events did happen at some point. You return to Athens / Kleon periodically throughout the game

Rogue's story is one of the most atrocious, poorly thought-out, and plot-hole-filled excuses for a piece of fiction I've ever seen. I hate it with ever fiber of my being for this reason.

Explain.

The part you're confusing it with is when you're tasked with forging the votes to get someone exiled. You never have any say in the Kleon/Perikles rivalry because of the actual history. I just replayed the game not long ago and the time the crowd boo's Kleon is when you put on a play to call him out, well after the plague of Athens, before that everyone was riding Kleon's dick to oust Perikles.

Yeah they could have had a mechanic where you command a Phalanx, with a brace, push, attack, etc button but nope the battles are just big clusterfucks where everyone is 1v1ing on a big open field.

Who cares about historical accuracy? Make everything inclusive and harmless.

no, only cleopatra, brutus is responsible caesar
origins trashed that like they trashed the precursor plot

man I like shay more than edd too
the fucking ugly blowgun doesnt help

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Yeah, every AC game is plagued with too much shit hanging off your character. Shay isn't immune from it, but he just has the least of it. I like the air rifle but for some reason they made it hang off your body in the most retarded way possible. Did this niggers never hear of a fucking sling?

>Surely there's a reason for that.
that reason is ubisoft québec, also responsible for shitty and downgraded from unity, ac syndicate
the studio is just plain bad

With the direction that Atalntis went, I get the feeling that they just didn't want to make an AC game in the first place and wanted to create something else but were forced to use AC license.

*is better in every way*

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It was always really annoying. At least in AC1 it didn't look that much worse since both the blades you had had dedicated sheathes for them, but later on you became a walking armory.

Fortunately in 2 and Brohood you could abuse the brute guards to disarm you and get rid of unwanted weapons, but I think that stopped being a thing soon after.

Only if you are a burger who likes fantasy movies.
Origins tried to keep it real, give authentic Egypt. Odyssey is a theme park in Greece.

>end of AC4
>Juno is trapped on the internet
>some reincarnated fag is the key to everything
>next games completely forget about this
>end of Syndicate
>Rebecca is shot
>game neds before knowing if she's dead or alive
>next games completely forget about this

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In Revelations there was a nice and easy glitch that would actually remove all weapons and armor, which was very nice, combined with the permanent hood down glitch.

In 3 you could equip a heavy axe and use the special attack to lodge it in a guards head, which I always did since the tomahawk was a way more suitable weapon anyway. The bow always annoyed me at first, but with 4 and Rogue out now there are better options for trying to fit into the colonial setting, so it doesn't bother me anymore.

there's nothing you can do about any of it in 4, and fortunately Shay looks mostly alright. The only problems in Rogue are the strangely placed rifle, the FUCKING mis-matched pistol glitch that was also in 3, and the fact that some outfits only have one pistol holster instead of two.

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Bayek only carries one weapon, a shield, and a bow. I enjoyed that

Yeah, after Desmond died the modern sections of the series just kind of shit the bed. They seem to be partially starting over with a new modern protag. I haven't played Odyssey yet, but at the end of Origins she joins Desmond's father.

The modern sections were always garbage and it's bizarre to me that anybody actually liked them.

That plotline got moved to comics and ended there.

How is the precursor race plotline going? I stopped playing after Revelations, but I used to like it.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Juno and Desmond had sex or something to save the earth from 12/21/2012, after that I don't know honestly.

It's painful, I read the synopsis and it was bad enough. Juno was actually a decent antagonist, more or less.

You really don't know? Alright, buckle up.
I don't read the comics myself, and if you want to get the entire story you can go to the AC wiki and read it up, but basically she succeeds in getting an actual body. It doesn't last for long, assassins and templars joined together for a short while to bring her down, and the assassin girl kills her with a hidden blade. The templar dude (you see him in Syndicate's cutscenes) blows up the facility where Juno and the assassin girl were.
Also, Desmond had a son, he's 15 years old.

Origins and Odyssey are not Assassin Creed games.
Theyre shitty, poorly optimised pieces of shite grindy, game as a service shitty RPGs and have fuck all to do with Assassins Creed anymore.
These games would never have done well at all if it didn't have the AC name attached to it.

Juno is a bitch
Juno got fucked
her husband has been getting fucked over and over again all throughout history. Is now reborn as Desmond's kid
Juno got fucked again, this time permanently
some other god that initially appeared in the facebook game, which in-universe was shut down due to hacking, reappeared in the main game
don't know where to go next, since Kass just warns that if either Assassins or Templars become victorious, shit will go down the shitter real quick. She's jus repeating what's obvious.

>Shay flips tits and goes berserk because he assumes the Assassins are intentionally killing people by reclaiming artifacts
>before things can resolve from his initial childish outburst and things can be talked through, he spazzes out again and leaves
>the Assassin characters are dumbasses, too
>Shay, a very Catholic Irishman, somehow manages to become a Templar in colonial Amarica, a faction devoted to social order and status quo, which would not at all support him without conversion to Protestantism at the very least
>Shay joins the Templars without asking any real questions, trusting them just because they aren't Assassins
>sticks to the Templars even when it becomes evident that they actively go out of their way to harm more people than the Assassins ever did
>kills Adewale, who is probably one of the most morally good people in the franchise too boot
>story is really just more Haytham Kenway wankbait because people love the edgy fuck so much for some reason
>Shay himself is an edgy cunt, constantly muttering "I MAKE ME OWN LUCK" despite clearly being a puppet for the entire story, Assassin or Templar
>the game is set during the French and Indian War but features next to none of it
>the game does nothing to explain why the Assassins are supporting the French or taking part in gang activity
>the way the earthquake artifacts are presented is nonsensical, even within the setting's secret sci-fi narrative

Desmond wasn't that old, was he?

noit was a one night standthe mom is dead too

I hate it.

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>Assassins find an artifact in Haiti
>it blows haiti up
>Have shay find another artifact like the first one in Lisbon
>it blows Lisbon up
>Shay comes back understandably angry
>tells the fuckers to stop messing with shit they dont understand
>nah senpai, we're going after another artifact soon
>steal the manuscript to prevent another catasthrophy
>your former mentor sends assassins after you with the intent to kill you after throwing you out of a building
>while they shoot after him and attack him with swords, Shay still fights them unarmed so he wouldnt kill any of his brothers
>determined to prevent another catasthrophy he is willing to kill himself to destroy the manuscript
>as he does so, his brothers shoot him in the back
>somehow survive
>achillies is still sending assassins to kill you
>templars treat you and arm you so you can defend yourself
Achillies and the entire colonial order were a fucking mess and an abomination compared to what Ezio and Altair achieved
also
>thinking the templars in AC are a religious group in any way connected to christianity

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>and it's bizarre to me that anybody actually liked them.
It was always interesting to see all the various conspiracy theories proven true, who was involved with what factions, the level of secrecy, and the ridiculous technology used to keep that secrecy. You're telling me you didn't like beating up Vidic's men and then eventually killing Vidic himself? You didn't like exploring the Monteriggioni or Rome in modern day? You didn't like finally getting to control Desmond out in the open (Even if it was very limited since they didn't want to do a modern day portion like the historical ones)? You didn't like learning about the modern day Templars and Assassins? The ridiculous Orwellian nightmare that is Abstergo? You didn't like snooping around the office in BF or Rogue, learning of the fates of various Assassin cells and Desmond's contributions?

I've never had a problem with modern day, I can understand disliking how often they pulled you out of the Animus to go run around and I think Brotherhood did it better where you could choose to leave the Animus rather than being shoved out of it, but it's enjoyable. Plus it was hilarious near the end of Black Flag, it got to Kingdom Hearts levels of insanity very quickly.

I want to say "but wait there's more" but I can't actually think of anything else. Since they're trying to bring story stuff from other materials into the main games, they could probably use Lucrezia's kid for that since he's got a god inside him. Or rather, a god just Voltron'd with him. Then again it's possible that Ubi heard the complaints about the gods thing and this is their way of disposing the plotline.

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Shit man, you didn't pay attention. Shay has an outburst, yeah, but you might too if you felt personally responsible for killing thousands of innocents. If you eavesdrop on Achilles and Adewale the first time you're in the homestead, you can hear them talking about how the last time they messed with one of these things, it caused the earthquake in Port-au-Prince. Despite that, when he confronts Achilles about it, Achilles tells him to go eat shit. Shay steals the book that tells them how to find more earthquake machines, and Achilles instantly decided to fucking kill Shay and sends like 50 guys out to murder him. Shay is genuinely concerned about protecting innocent lives to the point he's willing to kill himself by jumping off a cliff to prevent the Assassin's from getting the book.

The Colonial Assassins are a bunch of power-mad assholes at this point in the story, openly working with criminal street gangs and fucking pirates. The entire interim period is about Shay realizing the Templars aren't a bunch of mustache-twirling comic book villains like he's been lead to believe, via Captain Monro.

Achilles is the real villain of the Kenway saga. Even in 3 he just brainwashes Connor into thinking he need to kill his father to save his village, even when he learns it was Washington that burned it down and the Templars were trying to protect it, and Haytham offers a chance to make peace between the two factions and find some common ground.

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>>Shay, a very Catholic Irishman, somehow manages to become a Templar in colonial Amarica, a faction devoted to social order and status quo, which would not at all support him without conversion to Protestantism at the very least

The Templars aren't a religious order in these games.

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>You're telling me you didn't like beating up Vidic's men and then eventually killing Vidic himself? You didn't like exploring the Monteriggioni or Rome in modern day? You didn't like finally getting to control Desmond out in the open (Even if it was very limited since they didn't want to do a modern day portion like the historical ones)? You didn't like learning about the modern day Templars and Assassins? The ridiculous Orwellian nightmare that is Abstergo? You didn't like snooping around the office in BF or Rogue, learning of the fates of various Assassin cells and Desmond's contributions?

Not really. In every game I just dread being pulled out of the animus and having to waste time before getting back to the shit I actually care about. It breaks the flow of the games in spectacular fashion.

I'm not justifying the Assassins, I'm saying that everything about Shay/Templars/setting/story is unjustified and poorly written.
>thinking the templars in AC are a religious group in any way connected to christianity
No, I'm pointing out that Templars uphold the status quo, and the status quo at the time was intense social bigotry on the Irish, ESPECIALLY Irish Catholics. It'd be like having an Islamic black man joining the Klan, them accepting him without hesitation, and the story never even making note of how weird that is. Shay with his stupid fucking stereotype accent is like a Jew with the biggest shnozz and "OY VEY" tic joining the goddamn SS without anyone raising an eyebrow. It's fucking weird, man.

>No, I'm pointing out that Templars uphold the status quo

You seriously misunderstand the Templars.

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Origins could be released under any name outside AC. Let's say "The Last Of The Medjay" and it would still be fine.

That's fair enough, and I agree they should do something akin to Brotherhood, or at least leave the important stuff to the end of the game rather than scattered about. Hell, having Shaun or Rebecca interrupt you from time to time or have something akin to Unity happen where you get to traverse through the Animus to fix things is a perfectly acceptable compromise to me, but modern day is an enjoyable chunk of these games I don't want to see go. They just need to work around it rather than shove it in your face. Even stuff like Subject 16 puzzles or the memory overwriting of Liberation is a good way to have modern day and the past meet.

>I'm pointing out that Templars uphold the status quo
Torres was literally admonishing his men for keeping slaves in BF. The Templars were siding themselves with the Native Americans during all of 3. In Unity they were trying to overthrow the government. In Rogue they had a black guy at the top of the ladder in Colonial America. The Templars don't care about a status quo, they just care about trying to control humanity through any methods they can, even if it's through deception or lies, for The Greater Good™ because they believe only the righteous should be able to control other's choices so they can't harm others.
If you want a simple example Rodrigo Borgia was the pope and denounced Christendom and the Bible to the point that even Ezio questions how in the hell he's the pope. A small chunk of the people Ezio kills in 2 are monks yet openly denounce Christianity and only wear the robes because of the position it provides. There's even a guy who literally bitches at his fellow monks about how they're all sheep. They play up to certain appearances but don't give a shit during others. Haytham bangs a native for crying out loud.

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>they could probably use Lucrezia's kid for that since he's got a god inside him. Or rather, a god just Voltron'd with him.
Okay, what?

>The entire interim period is about Shay realizing the Templars aren't a bunch of mustache-twirling comic book villains like he's been lead to believe, via Captain Monro.
So instead they turned the Assassins into Saturday morning cartoon villains? This reads like they're trying to write grey morality but they only see in black and white.

The Assassin's were just drunk on power, they stopped following their creed, similar to Altair in the beginning of AC1. They weren't intentionally trying to nuke cities, they just didn't give a shit that it happened. They had basically been unchallenged in the colonies since Edward fucked Torres and his gang up good, and it shows.

Basically. Assassin's Creed is a huge pile of dog shit with the occasonal diamond buried deep insight.

>"and jews will rule"
woah raimi really crossed the line there

Can you do the discovery mode as Caesar?

Yes. Also kids, more Greeks and Romans. Few moderns characters too.
youtube.com/watch?v=QNjA3FXL05k

Can you fuck her?

Yes, but are executed the next morning.

The Hidden ones is shit, The Pharaos Curse is pretty good.

Everyone can fuck her.

that's Origins(which I 100% a year ago)

So game over?

You are right, my bad

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What would be a good setting for future Creed games?

I always thought Roman Britain would work, maybe during Boudicca's rebellion or involving the disappearance of the IX legion. Perhaps they discover an isu artifact that disintegrates the entire legion save for you, the main character, and you have to hide the relic, time skip, stop the relic from falling into the hands of Templars or Assassins.

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Mesopotamia

Victorian London, but good.

still want JUSTed Arno to go after Napoleon during the napoleonics wars
still want peak Rome game instead of that stupid viking shit

so... what's next for ASSCREED 2020?

Nah.

I'd like them to take another stab at Shao Jun, she deserved better than the Chronicles game at least, and China in general seems interesting considering all their wars. Aztecs would also be neat but they'd need to release it a couple years after Origins or Odyssey just so you wouldn't hate sand more than Anakin does. Something set during the Medieval era would also be neat just for the armor or clothing you'd get to see ranging from peasant to noble wear, maybe take place during the Inquisition. They could also retread the movie and retcon it but use the time it takes place in.

I'd kill for a proper Roman asscreed.

feudalist China was rumored a few years ago (iirc shortly before Unity was announced)
could be good desu

One where you play Marco Polo during his time in Kublai Khan's court.

>You're telling me you didn't like beating up Vidic's men and then eventually killing Vidic himself? You didn't like exploring the Monteriggioni or Rome in modern day? You didn't like finally getting to control Desmond out in the open (Even if it was very limited since they didn't want to do a modern day portion like the historical ones)? You didn't like learning about the modern day Templars and Assassins? The ridiculous Orwellian nightmare that is Abstergo? You didn't like snooping around the office in BF or Rogue, learning of the fates of various Assassin cells and Desmond's contributions?

Yep. I didn't buy the games for that, I bought them for the historical parts AKA 90% of the gameplay.

The entire concept of the modern day story became too ridiculous to take seriously right after AC1. same with Templars/assassin's existing throughout history. It's really goofy

British Raj would be pretty neat.

Pre-Islamic Arabia

>The entire concept of the modern day story became too ridiculous to take seriously right after AC1
So you're okay with a random object taking control of people's minds en masse and creating copies of a person but an ancient race creating them is too much to swallow? I mean, I'm with you when it comes to Black Flag onward, it got incredibly hilarious really quickly once they brought in Juno living in the Cloud and her husband being reborn every hundred years trying to rescue her each time, but even then I find fun in it. It's ridiculous but interesting at the same time to learn about Minerva and Juno's race, it's interesting to find more PoEs and learn their abilities, and so on.
>same with Templars/assassin's existing throughout history
This I don't find crazy at all considering Templars will always be around due to the ideology being all they need to survive, whether they call themselves "Templars" or adopt their creed is pretty irrelevant because at the end of the day their entire belief is "A few good men control the many "bad" people". The Assassins will always be around to stop them because they want freedom even if it's detrimental. The POEs are what tie them together constantly, and even in modern day the Templars are slaughtering the Assassins so that's an even more interesting situation because of how they'll overcome Otso Berg and Abstergo while trying to fix the solar flare mess.

I'm with you guys when it comes to buying the game for historical tourism and the story, but I have no problem with the modern story providing it doesn't force someone who is just for the historical stuff into it to progress. Desmond in Abstergo for example was great for me, I loved it, same deal with the desk jockey in BF getting pushed around by Rebecca and Shaun as he uncovers tons of stuff about Abstergo for them.

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AND DRESSED IN MEDIEVAL ATIRE VERY ACCURATED ANNON!

Somewhere else in the ancient fertile crescent. Maybe not immediately because we got Egypt 2 years ago, but imagine Babylon, Sumer, Mesopatamia

>So you're okay with a random object taking control of people's minds en masse and creating copies of a person but an ancient race creating them is too much to swallow? I
My issue lies in the fact that the modern day assasins are all quirky diverse sarcastic hackers. Or just the fact that Templars and assassins still exist after thousands of years. And follow the same ideals and use the same names. It's STUPID.

The Assassin's Creed should have been the thing that survived through history, not the assassin's guild itself. And the Knights Templar should not be around, the modern equivalents can be the Illuminati or something, but it's just ridiculous that these orders still exist unbroken and unchanged after thousands of years.

I don't even mind the fact that they're the same organizations, what I have a problem with is how fucking big these secret societies are made out to be throughout the series. It's fucking silly.

the trash bin

Yeah that too. If I could suggest anything, it would be to still have the modern "villains" be some power-loving secret society. Call them Illuminati, call them whatever. Don't have them be the same as the Knights Templar. Just be that shadowy new world order stuff from all those conspiracy theories. Never reveal their full grasp or power. AC1 did this well by having you captured by them in a single building, with only 2 other characters to interact with. You should get the impression that they're in control of things but they never interfere with anything openly or directly.

As for the Assasins, have the animus serve as the vehicle through which the creed survives. Desmond "resurrects" this ancient order by having their ideals and skills imprinted on him by the bleeding effect.

I want China. I don't even care too much about the time period when it comes to this one.

The open world of this game is so gorgeous. I wish the game part of it didn't suck.

The only part of odyssey I liked was hunting down cultists

>My issue lies in the fact that the modern day assasins are all quirky diverse sarcastic hackers.
Only the ones we meet and even then Desmond and his dad knew nothing really and the majority we see in the comics are just regular people as well. Remember that outside of people living in the sticks who are descendants of the Order the people they recruit are mostly people who were trying to uncover conspiracies like Shaun which would mean they'd either be technologically educated or at least proficient enough. Shaun can't tinker like Rebecca can but he researches a bunch, and Bishop was basically Rebecca 2.0. They've only just recently started getting people from the Abstergo Entertainment Animus hacking which means more laypeople should be around, but the reasoning makes sense.
>it's just ridiculous that these orders still exist unbroken and unchanged after thousands of years.
The Templars are also the Illuminati though, that's what those underground shelters are all about in 3. Neither order has been completely decimated as far as I can recall so it makes sense their creeds survive in pretty much the same shape. It would be like the Templars in 3, you just ship people out with your beliefs and ethos and it gets ingrained in the people they convert or bring into the fold. Achilles singlehandedly kept the Creed alive in America including their outfit and weaponry after Shay destroyed it and thus it passed onto Connor and the new Assassins of America. Connor doesn't even follow certain things of it anyway. Look at Christianity, it's still around, albeit with many offshoots, but it also has more members so it would be harder to just outright stop compared to Assassins/Templars.

I like killing Mercenaries

Yeah, that too

haven't played odyssey yet, but let me guess: the creatures and mythological power and other bullshit is just "lol ancient civilization" isn't it?

Real Egyptians were BLACK.

Yes. It doesn't even make sense why they're so prevalent. Odyssey takes place in 480BC whereas the ancient civ is supposed to be more like 50,000 BC

yup.
it's all Isu fuckery and Animus glitching the fuck out of the sim

next game it's gonna be set in roman empire
r-right guys???

at this rate? hell no we're getting something even older than the Peloponnese war and Darius the first

Nope, vikangz

Vikings are next, AC leaks are always true, I can't even think of a time when one was fake. Origins' had in-game screenshots, Unity had a bunch of screenshots revolving around the first main assassination mission that they advertised at E3 and about the co-op, if I remember right Black Flag had leaks about the ship combat, and so on. If the major websites start talking about it it's pretty much true. I wouldn't doubt if it's Ubisoft themselves "leaking" the stuff, probably to drum up hype.

thats it. As an egypt fag i only played cuz i liek the aesthetic. it wasnt even ANCIENT egypt it was ptolemic egypt like fuck me man. but w.e. the curse dlc was good. the thing i didnt enjoy that much was the fact that it was a boring ass AC game at end of the day with a nice aesthetic. Why i didnt buy odyssey

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can you see her tits? should that dress be more transparent?

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>t. Ubisoft marketer

It's a very typical Ubisoft strategy, literally every single major game they release starts to have "leaks" about a month from launch that only report about all the nice and cool things the supposedly leaked game has.

What was the best ship and why was it The Morrigan?

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>it wasnt even ANCIENT egypt it was ptolemic egypt
isn't it still considered ancient? it's just 300 years difference, that's nothing when egypt is 3000years old

Morrigan was too small
That large time span is exactly why someone would consider Origins to not be Ancient Egypt. Cleopatra lived closer to modern times than she did to the building of the pyramids.

>Morrigan was too small

Still had the best armory and the best aesthetic. The cabin was comfy, too.

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3000 years bc was when pyramids are said to have been built. so yeah itd been interesting cuz they couldve used the old ones as explanation for shit like ociris and thot. they ended up doign what they shouldve done with origins in the atlantis dlc

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are you fucking stupid? my kid's first erection (that i was aware of) was at 3 years old.

That big cabin on such a small ship also bothered me. Total waste of space, would have never happened IRL. It's at least 1/4 of the ship's size.

Low T detected

>Cleopatra lived closer to modern times than she did to the building of the pyramids.

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Reminder that this based man is saving the series and will be directing the next one (according to rumors).

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>at least 1/4 of the ship's size.

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The room simply can't be that small. Look you can even see the wheel, which Shay is taller than, sticking out. He wouldn't fit in that red outline.

You can see from the rear window to that second-to-last cannon right here.

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>As an egypt fag i only played cuz i liek the aesthetic.
Same. Repetitive side quests bored me, I stopped giving a shit and just went to explore the world. Main story was lame and generic but then it kicks in. Loved the moment when we bring Cleopatra wrapped in a carpet.

The wheel goes right down to the deck. Have you ever been on a ship?

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Who was in the wrong here?

AC2 especially was gorgeous on release, both graphically and artistically. The vibrant colors still look beautiful too. Same with Brotherhood then, I suppose.

AC2-Rev had a kind of sharpness to them that disappeared in 3, for the worse in my opinion.

I just recently started on AC:B after AC2 and I gotta say Brotherhood is way better on the vibrant and beautiful front. Everything is so colorful, there's greenery everywhere, the moon and the sun play off the world great. With AC2 you get that as well, but it feels harsher in a way, and in places like Forli and Tuscany it doesn't pop as much. Forli especially, it's so dreary there, and Firenze gets to be pretty dull compared to Venice.

>sand
>good looking

Even sand looks like literal shit in real life

>Game about assassinations in historical contexts
>Takes place during time of Caesar
>Doesn't end with you assassinating Caesar in what is THE most well known assassination in human history

Blunder of the century

>Doesn't even use his "legendary" armor from Brotherhood

I liked how AC1 & AC2 had a sort of etheral, dreamlike quality to them. Which was appropriate because they're supposed to be simulations of memories

>Sand

Egypt is more than just sand

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AC Origins quite literally ends with you stabbing Caesar

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So how long before we get an assassins creed game where you play as a strong independent woman that takes place during WWII where you assassinate nazi commanders in occupied France where you inevitably assassinate Hitler but they cover it up as a suicide because the assassins don't want anyone to know they're still around?

Already happened but in WW1 not ww2.

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I always thought this was such a strange addition considering the story never required you to trigger this

That's why I just play the tour mode.

I actually liked this part, it's a shame the missions are so simple and you have such a small area of London to explore. Seems like it would have made a better setting than Victorian London (which is pretty cliche in media by now).

I feel like an AC game in a near-modern setting could work really well if the gameplay was refined enough to be suited to ranged combat. Red Dead 2 scratched that itch for me in Saint Denis, but it would be awesome having a full city-sized map with that level of fidelity.

All they have to do is keep it just before the advent of metallic cartridges, in the cap and ball days, in order to keep melee still relevant when you run out of ammo, instead of just reloading real quick.

>Romulus Lair takes place in the Roman Catacombs.
>Miles of catacombs and hundreds of skeletons laid to rest in them.
>Actually descend deeper into the ground, way deeper, you even go down an enormous hole in the ground that goes down even further but there's no handholds to guide you that far down.
>Out of nowhere you find a fully furnished Catholic church with an enormous cross just sitting there, two entrances leading into catacombs above it, and two entrances to the side that are closed.
>One of the catacomb entrances is literally behind the cross up near the ceiling and buttressed so it was clearly done prior to the Followers of Romulus starting their life LARPing meaning in order to access that entrance you had to climb the cross to do it.
>Said path leads into a multi-level area with a massive pillar in the center and a couple entrances that close preventing you from checking them out.
>If you get to the top there's even more catacombs which lead to the scroll.
>Gate leads out to a random sewer entrance in the middle of nowhere.
How in the world does this church work? It's clearly underground but it's as big as a cathedral, who in the world were the people coming here to worship in the first place? Usually the various areas you find secrets in make sense, albeit a bit exaggerated, but this is basically an underground cathedral you have to access either via catacombs or some magical underground tunnel system that doesn't exist.

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>Go through all the trouble to find The Sage to get into the Observatory
>There's literally a tunnel straight from the outside to the inner sanctum just open to the air

lel

>tfw I'm a hellenofreek
>love me everything about the Hellenes
>tfw no Mount & Blade style game set in ancient greece where I can command my own phalanx & try to make myself king of a city

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>They had those sections in 3 where you command troops and cannons from horseback
>Only used like twice
>Never use this idea ever again

O-okay.

>Altair's Armor is locked behind six keys resting with the bodies of famous Assassins who are buried in secret locations which Mario couldn't find for like 30 years while Ezio did it in a couple years with no help.
>Turns out there was a large sewer system just behind the Altair statue that you could access from one of the entrances outside of the Monteriggioni the entire time that everyone had been passing by for at least 50+ years at that point without questioning it.
>He also didn't think to just break down one of the walls on the side to bypass the gate entirely.

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I think the worst offender of all is this gate in Rogue that protects the Native Armor. It's literally made of sticks.

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>Edward's requires you to have the Eagle Vision to have any hope of finding the keys at all.
>What is basically a Piece of Eden is locked behind a stone door for hundreds if not thousands of years that they could have just chipped through in a couple hours.
Rogue's is definitely the worse offender for sure. 3's was just the Captain Kidd outfit, right? Connor just solved an intricate map for that one.

Not only did Black Flag's require Eagle Vision, it also relied on literally nothing changing in the environment. If a tree falls in a hurricane or a rock gets dug up and used for building, the whole puzzle goes to shit.

>beat AssCreed 1 and 2
>Never touched brotherhood or revelations
>skipped AC3
>played AC4 but never finished
>Haven't touched any AC game since then

5 games + 3 spinoffs I'm too fucking far behind it's exhausting to think about playing any now

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>>Doesn't end with you assassinating Caesar in what is THE most well known assassination in human history
If this isn't a bait... that's how it ends

Good thing they're basically all self contained