Why is Japan so obsessed with Dragon Quest? It sucks

Why is Japan so obsessed with Dragon Quest? It sucks

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Dq11 was a great game full of soul while western games are about sexuality and being a depressed faggot.

Weebs: 1
Atheists: 0

You suck

Japs are autistic so they appreciate the repetitiveness.

>while western games
DQ shits on the other trash japan pumps out.

Because Westfags and Sonyfags will never understand Soul and "It ain't broke, don't fix it"
also top-tier waifus

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True but that trash shits on anything coming out in the west

I can't get past the terrible Toriyama art style. Every fucking character looks like Gohan. It's just shit.

>hat trash shits on anything coming out in the west
Both are shit.

Its gonna sell great numbers in the west on the switch since its been pushed so heavily and he's in smash.

I'm actually interested to see how it does on switch, it should do really well. I'd buy it but I dont have a switch and already have it on PC.

>It ain't broke, don't fix it
Someone needs to get Game Freak that memo, they could learn a lot from the DQ team.

>dragon quest
>weeb

Sex sucks but the whole world is obsessed with it.

its an anime jrpg so yes, sorry to break it to you user

11 was a dull drudge for fucking hours. Been playing and loving JRPGS for years but that shit sucked.

If you think Dragon Ball is weeb you're beyond retarded. I could see nu final fantasy being weeb, but dq? Nope.

dragon quest xi fucking sucks, its by far my worst vidya related purchase

God I love Sofia

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I like the DQ series but 11 is boring because your magic points refill so often from level ups that there's no meaning in making intelligent decisions in non-boss battles. I played the whole game on full-auto outside of boss fights because there was no reason not to.
Also the game marks exactly where to go on the world map so you don't have to explore or even remember the names of towns.
DQ is supposed to be easy, but there's a difference between easy and mindless.

playin' it right now.

>Why is Japan so obsessed with Dragon Quest?
In a couple years, the west will be just as obsessed with it. Now that Nintendo and Squenix are actually marketing it correctly. You and the other people in this thread are just proving the point. It's gotten popular enough for the contrarians (you) to notice. And you're virtue signaling how much you hate it for attention.

Please do keep it up by the way. The more you complain, the more free advertising Dragon Quest gets. Every thread like this, I see at least a few people asking how to get into the series. You're just helping increase the notoriety of the series.

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DQ games are pretty good
DQ3 was tons of fun, DQIX was my first introduction and was really enjoyable with charming characters (even if the protagonist was kind of light on personality).
DQXI is legitimately really good all around as a high-fantasy story with fun little side-arcs and a solid over-arching story.
They all have issues, sure, but they're also proof of why the JRPG staple mechanics work so well to engender endearment and attachment from players to characters

Should have turned on hard mode then. DQXI is both the easiest and the hardest DQ game. Depending if you turn on the hard mode or not.

I will agree that it lacked as much exploration as I expect from DQ games though. Really hope the Switch version will add more stuff to find in pots/barrels/cupboards/etc. And a few more side quests.

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Most weebs are atheists because Japan has surpassed g-d

I played the 3DS version (in 2D mode) so there's no hard mode options. Though I'm not sure if the English version's hard mode stuff would make me happy or not, since it's not that I need the individual fights to be hard, I just want to stop the flood of MP refills. But maybe I would like it; hard to say.

I believe one of the options is turning off healing during EXP. The hard mode allows you to turn on each option individually. So if you wanted the game to be exactly the same, just with that one option removed, you could do it.

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I found this list, if it's complete:

- No fleeing from battle: you cannot escape from battle if things go south
- No shopping: you can't buy items from shops, meaning you can only use what you find and craft
- No armor: you cannot equip any defensive items
- Shypox: characters randomly fail to act in battle
- Reduced experience from easy fights: enemies below your level yield little or no experience
- All enemies are super strong: enemies are tougher

The first four were in the Japanese version to begin with. The final two were added in the English version. I think "enemies are super-strong" is the main one people talk about for making the game harder.

>I think "enemies are super-strong" is the main one people talk about for making the game harder.
Most complaints I heard came from the reduced EXP actually. But then, the people who typically just grind to get past problems and don't look for crafting/gear/strategy means to beat stuff would complain when their go to is blocked. They shouldn't be playing with that option on to begin with.

Boomers

You really shouldn't use terms you don't understand.

Because Toriyama is a hack.

>but 11 is boring because your magic points refill so often from level ups that there's no meaning in making intelligent decisions in non-boss battles.
now this is something I agree with
part of whatever difficulty DQ games had came from asking yourself stuff like "will this be enough to get be to the boss?" or "should I use herbs or rather use MP since the MP refill items are so rare?"
give me the option to turn off the heal per level up please

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What I really want to know is why it sold so shitty in the west. XC2 sold more, Octopath sold more , P5 sold more. Even DQIX sold more back on the DS. Why go through all the trouble getting voice actors when just giving the game to Reggie to localize has better results?

it had to compete with Spiderman

Literally 0 marketing. The only reason anyone even knew about it was because of some youtube channels and forums talking about it.

We're lucky we even got a port in the first place. The only Dragon Quest with any form of marketing was 8.

>wastes a smash bros slot

we're not talking about persona

I want to agree but that scenario ended up not mattering if you died to the boss you didnt losr progress and you just went back this time avoiding all encounters
also magic ring rng abuse
lack of mp was never a big deal in my experiences

Because they're generic human beings that enjoy generic grind fests

switch version will probably sell 3times better in the west since nintendo wull market it for a change

>generic this generic that
>but shoot in the head really fast is ok

this

you mean 9 and joker 1

I've known about DQ since the NES days and its sucks.

Thanks for the bump!

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Persona 5 sucks a lot, so many redundant scenes and shit pacing with a plot that makes childish stories look more coherent. Is DQXI better?

I agree
easy bar to clear so yes Id say so
dq games are slow and the plot is not really the focus
its worth a try see if you like it

>Persona 5 sucks a lot

yeah lmao

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>ratings means a game is good
Just like Hollywood movies. Captain Marvel and Star Wars The Last Jedi are amazing!

This. DQ is wholesome, anyone who shits on it has no soul and supports feminism.

cope harder

should I buy DQ11S, only other DQ's i've played are 3 and 8.

>Japan
>good taste in anything besides sushi
Not since before 1945.

You know how our plebs love shitty games? Jap plebs also like shitty games, it's just different kinds of shitty.

>ratings means a game is bad

dq is still better than garbage like fifa and cod, honestly

DQ games have a lot of charm that continues with each game so its like seeing a friend for the first time 3 years. They contain jokes and scenarios which are parroted on bbs for years later. And the tropes they follow are worn and battle tested.

Japs worst shit is mobage and before you argue, yes, gachashit is fucking deplorable and please kill yourself if you "play" that shit

No one claimed that. Some good games have had high ratings. You were however claiming ratings validates a games quality. Which can easily be proven wrong by finding a high score tied to a game you dislike. Which they do exist, even though you'll claim otherwise to defend your point.

cope

DQ is garbage, worst art design, little kiddie thing

for 10 year olds

>deplorable
Get a load of this onion sniffer. I bet you watch CNN and voted for Hillary.
I don't play gacha but i'm not a commie cuck who wants to take it away from people who enjoy it because fuck capitalism and fuck sexy females.

Menstruate

DQXI sucks, its one of the worst entries in the series and I'm glad it got the sales it deserved.
Go watch/buy the upcoming movie instead cuz its based on the best game in the series.

>reading this much into the word deplorable
hang yourself nigger
^more your speed, homolust?

Its too early for so much shitposting

because they have shit taste in games in general, and most of japaneese games are trash

>doesn't deny anything
dilate

>been a fan of dragon quest since i played VIII on the ps2 way back when
>played every game from III to IX
>enjoyed XI
>talk about them in Yea Forums threads and enjoy the discussion
>smash leaker mentions a dragon quest character
>it's now borderline impossible to discuss dragon quest online
>dragon quest character announced for smash
>it's now literally impossible to discuss dragon quest online
I now understand why so many people hate smashfags

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stop overreacting
it's fucking summer

the /vg/ general is still comfy
but yeah threads here have gotten real bad

Same reason it's baffling that the west likes Call of Duty when it sucks.

just wait till hero is actually released, it only gets worse

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summer kiddies have taken over the board

How do I get into the series? Is XI a good starting point?

fucking based

>Not reversed cover
Ya blew it.

Dragon Quest XI is a fine starting point. DQV or XI if you are used to JRPGs like Final Fantasy or Tales. Dragon Quest VIII if you prefer more open ended exploration.

The only games you should play in order are Dragon Quest I-III.

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9 had Seth Green promoting it too.

4 is the best starting point imo but 11 is pretty good too

It's not "summer." The anti DQ fags have been around since DQIX on the DS got popular and had daily threads on Yea Forums (2009).

What's going on is Dragon Quest crossed the threshold from being unknown to being recognized by the general market. And any time a game does that, the contrarians rush in to hate it.

Also, "summer" is a myth. Yea Forums has been this way since 2007. The same stupid posters are around all year.

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But Pokemon has been broken since day one.

>"It ain't broke, don't fix it"
I might be four hours late, but square enix does not fucking understand that concept.
It's more like 'Don't fuck too much with dragon quest, we can't piss off the homeland'.

DQ11 sold well over a million in just the US alone
Why are you posting this

Alright, thanks men : this game goes in my Switch list.

youtube.com/watch?v=WrjU4WZeaSk
kino

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In what way?

>471256790
I know nobody cares, but I'm so fucking sad because I want to play this game so much but have no time this year so I didn't even bought it, and I want it physical but I never found it in my city.
I regret so much choosing Spider-Shit (PS4) over this JRPG full of SOUL last year.

It's a series that hasn't been touched by dirty gaijin trans hands.

se has no say in dq, that helps

>Game on more platforms
>Took longer to make
>Less sales than DQIX

Isn't that bad?

Why are you so obsessed with what Japan is obsessed about? You suck

That would explain a lot, honestly. Admittedly, I'm not a fan, and I think DQ often seems like it sticks way too much to tradition and some other shit, but I applaud them not getting fucked with by suits all the same.

Does it get easier later in the game to get into pep state? That quest that requires to use wild side that requires 3 people in the pep state at the same time against a spitfire is bugging me.

With the Switch version it will meet or exceed DQIX. It's also not really a fair comparison since no console is anywhere close to DS in units. Also, we have no factor on how much the PC version sold, since neither SE nor Steam will release that info.

the father of the series horii is still around and making all the game design decisions he used to do all the writing too but he gets help with that now
he has his own company armor project and se are just the publisher
he is already writing the scenario for 12 guy doesnt stop and wants to continue untill the day he dies

there are items that get you into that state you can find them later on the game

Kys

Meh DQ8 was on the PS2- the console that sold 120 million units. It made no real impact.

Dragon Quest is just not really big outside Japan and its mostly a Nintendo thing anyway. See how SquareEnix treats the PlayStation/PC version.

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Pep quests are better done much later, when you can switch characters out. Any character on your reserve team keeps the pep state.

I thought that was the case for a lot of the quests, just my ocd compels me to do side content before doing anything in the main story and it hasn't worked out that well so far.

Who's your waifu, Nigger Jim?

But the west does understand that.
That's why Call of Duty and Ubisoft are so successful.

> Why is Japan so obsessed with Dragon Quest? It sucks
Japanese sales would be much lower if it was released on pc there.

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>implying Japs know how to pirate

Any idea on what should I pick for weapon choices for Rab and Jade?

spear for jade I think, I did claws for rab but I think i'd go heavy wand looking back

What's with dragon quest and fucking horses?

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Spear does seem like the best choice for Jade but I have both the sisters using wands so I thought there might be some overlap. Does Rab have some unique spells that sets him apart?

Absolutely SEETHING and shittaste faggot OP. Dragon Quest XI was unironically the best turn-based JRPG of this gen (along with Persona 5).

As a sonychad, can't wait till nintenbros get to experience it as well, even if it is 2 years after us.

based

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rab uses Zam which I Serena and Veronica don't use. I believe he has more debuff spells than both of the sisters too, could easily be wrong about that. He also gets an interesting offensive ability later in the game (it's spoilery so I won't say what it is or when you get it)

>all these low test homosexuals ITT hating on Martina's game

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The main series is terrible but I have a soft spot for DQM. It was the best Pokémon-like that wasn't Monster Rancher IMO.

>Purse owner
>Best anything
ABSOLUTELY SHIT

Hating popular things does not make you smart.

God is great and if you talk shit about our lord and saviour one more fucking time I'm gonna recollect the teeth he put in that dick licker of yours.

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The games might be good, never played'em so I don't really have an opinion, but I just don't luke the artstyle. The hair and faces feel too same-y from what images and gameplay I have seen. I understand that may not be the best reason to dislike a game, but I can't help it, but I'm glad you DQfags have a series you enjoy.

**like

Didn't say it did. I hate nu persona past 2 and have for a long time. I'm one of the 6 guys in the west who played SMT games before nocturne so I'm drawn more to the older games and the core series. Newer persona is made appeal and "Adults bad. Teens good"

Any word yet on if the new switch content is gonna come to other platforms?

No and I would not count on it.

Jade early on is Spears and Rab learns really useful spells earlier than Serana and Veronica.
With the full skill board, Jade gets really powerful Charm and Unarmed skills. You can still use unarmed skills with a weapon, and they hit hard.
Rab's spells fall behind late-game, I didn't find him as good and he was mid-game.

>exclusivity in 2019
Square Enix sure can fuck off.

>Martina
Who? You mean Jade

The game is gonna run so slow and shit on the switch, they literally had to make a "2D mode" so that it runs properly

Yes

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>$100 dollaridoos for the PC version
Should I?

You're overreacting. Smashfaggotry ends after they get bored with the character 10 mins after playing them. Castlevania threads, Metal Gear threads, Street Fighter threads even Persona threads. Smash faggotry only lasts when the fanbase is autistic enough to push the character where it takes over all discussion, see Banjofags, you don't even need the character to be in Smash for this to happen, look at Shantae.

Dragon Quest is ingrained into jap culture at this point. 3 especially, is parodied in fucking everything ever there.

2 as well surprisingly

>Every fucking character looks like Gohan
Looks like you just got your idea of the characters from the Smash memes because the main character of 11 looks far more like Trunks

Considering how low the game performed on PC/PS4 last year, I don't see SE bothering anymore

>600k outside Japan
Isn't that pretty damn good for a non-Final Fantasy JRPG?

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no one really answered this? i kinda liked persona 5 but is DQ better?

Didn't persona 5 sell a couple million in the west?

...

maybe they got the secret 2x speed version

>expecting people who own PCs, Xbone's and PS4's to buy actual video games

gameplay wise, dragon quest is stuck in the 1980s

>- No shopping: you can't buy items from shops, meaning you can only use what you find and craft
>- No armor: you cannot equip any defensive items

why?
some of the fun of RPG's is going to different stores and seeing what they have
this is stupid fuck this autism

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>Japanese
>PC games
Nice joke. They wouldn't even pirate it for free.

Those games are pretty different. I would say DQ is for an older audience than Persona.

they all exist just to force you to grind more

It honestly surprises how many sexual innuendos and jokes are in the series despite it being aimed at primarily children. Some of the fan service is straight up explicit despite all the violence being treated in a cartoony fashion.

FUCK DQ11 FIX YOUR DAMAGE FORMULAS BLADE OF ULTIMATE POWER SHOULDNT BE WEAKER THAN A SKILL YOU UNLOCK 10 HOURS INTO THE GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

is it true that they have to have a public holiday every time a new dragon quest comes out in Japan because no one comes to work otherwise?

God I hate 2 and want to skip it but my autism wants me to finish
Where the fuck do I go after getting the false idol from volcano?
I'm missing one sigil
I have Sun, star, moon, and heart

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Kino: youtube.com/watch?v=o7KwJzPEY10

That's an urban legend. It comes from the launch of DQ3 which indeed had many people skipping work to play it.
There's a reference to that in one of the Yakuza Zero substories

What is it with this franchise and terrible marketing? The only two DQ games that had somewhat decent marketing in the West were VIII PS2 and IX... and they sold more than any other DQ game that's been brought over before or since.

its not true just a 30 yo meme

just use a guide

That's fine user, to be fair despite liking Dragonball/Toriyama's artstyle when I was younger, I grew tired of it later(also due to thinking it too same-y faces on characters), but one of the things I still like about besides also loving DQ games are the monster designs, so I can't help coming back.

Because Japan is not a puritan violent shithole like America where showing a nipple get you banned but you can carry guns in public.

>dragon ball
>dragon quest
>blue dragon
my man likes his dragons

Those games are a hard seller though. Turn-based combat in 2018, with this cartoony artstyle and lots of dialogue... They look like children game but they are not actually aimed at children but adults with nostalgia for their SNES/PS1 days. That is pretty niche

It doesn’t suck. It’s basically comfort food, and also a comfy gateway game for less experienced gamers to get into more mechanically demanding stuff.

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out here on Yea Forums we call that baby's first casual SHIT

They fixxed a lot of that stuff in Gen 1 though. so that was an example they DID fix things

>why does japan buy these RPG rehashes? same thing every year. is it autism??
>meanwhile in the West

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Because akira "hasn't written a good story since galactic patrolman jaco" toriyama.

he doesn't write dragon quest

I hear from many DQ fans that XI is actually kinda shitty. I guess most praise comes from newcomers to the series. Same with 8, which was extremely mediocre compared to other titles.

always seems to happen with the muh grafics dqs.

But he is part of the popurality

Im a very old fan and 11 is very very good
8 is overrated however

Yeah, VIII's a good game, and the overworld is really good, but VI, VII and IX have it beat in game mechanics

The Enix branch is notorious for not giving a shit about dirty gaijin and some people suspect they purposefully don't market it to the west because they want it to be Japanese only. The only reason DQXI got a port was because the original creator of the series forced them into it.

The fact that Fifa sells more and more every year despite becoming even more and more watered down with paywalls and microtransactions really makes me depressed.

But then again no one in the hardcore gaming community has ever really been supportive of sports games since the 90s.

gematsu.com/2019/07/dragon-quest-xi-s-details-additional-stories

holy fuck guys this is amazing

it mostly sells more every year because more ps4s get sold and everybody seems to buy FIFA and GTA on them.
its still awful.

Only a zoomer would say that. Dragon Quest is the best and nothing can top it.

The Japs know that horses are the sexiest animal. Big dicks and juicy winking puccies.

DQXI is hilariously bad, and it's flaws are pretty obvious.
The visuals looks great, but everything else was shit, even the fucking music that you got use mods to fix.
What happens is that we live in a time where even people who doesnt know what a jrpg is will end up playing the game because a streamer they follow did, or someone made a youtube video about it.
Even though there was over ten games in the series, a lot of people are only finding out about the series now because of DQXI.
And I completely get it, I would praise it too if it was my first jrpg ever. But when you have played better examples of the genre DQXI really shows how shallow it is.
DQVIII was fine. It wasnt that amazing but its better than DQXI at least. The graphics always play a big part in baiting newfags into the series.

I just want another DQ like 5

based

what flaws other than the music? dq11 is intended as babbys first jrpg and you can fix that with draconian settings

Stfu Banjoke cuck

>(along with Persona 5)
Fucking yikes. I agree with DQ11 but you didn't have to out yourself as a retard with extremely bad taste. Now I have to reconsider my love for DQ11 since garbage subhumans like yourself enjoy it.

It's all weeb my dude, no need to be shy

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Dragon Quest gives you lots of buffs and debuffs to mitigate damage. Plus you can still find gear in dungeons and craft gear so losing out on shops isn't as bad as you might imagine.

The MC's hair isn't spiky.

What is your favorite jrpg and what sets it apart from other games in the genre?

Maybe because the music on ps4 sounds like trash. Only playable on pc with mod

It's as anime as it gets, user. Just because it doesn't go full on moeshit doesn't mean it's exempt.

I can respect that. Seems like a cool guy.

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That's how it's always been for DQ games.
>What's that, Gigaslash? The skill you get after maxing your vocation?
>No, thanks. Falcon slash with falcon blade is better.

This game is seriously incredible.

It's a childrens game

Only in Japan. Western kids hate turn based.

ya, I have 80 hours in DQ11 and never played one prior.

I don't usually fall for random waifus on Yea Forums but this one does it for me.

Dragon Quest is a Nintendo-affiliated franchise just like Final Fantasy is a Sony-affiliated franchise. Dragon Quest fans played on DS and 3DS, they're used to Nintendo platforms. It will sell more in the West on Switch than on PS4 and PC combined.

Sounds like you need to git gud.

The Japanese diet throws their gut flora out of wack and gives them all autism.

Switch wins again!

I'm genuinely happy that DQ does better than personashit. DQ11 was like a cure after the immense disappointment that is P5.

Japs have a strong bias towards traditionalism; doing things "the old fashioned way" is literally a selling point over there for just about everything, not just games. Dragon Quest has been around for so long while only ever really iterating in it's main series that it has some sort of resonance with nearly every generation over there. Whether you are an adult who played the original games as a kid, a teen/20 something who grew up with the series, or a child just getting into it, everyone is still fundamentally playing the same game so it has this element of nostalgia and reverence that Japanese eat up. That's why I think Final Fantasy ended up being second place (but bigger in the west). They kept feeling the need to reinvent the wheel every time as the series got older rather than just playing to its strengths. The novelty is fun and gives each game a more concrete individual identity but it hurts the series overall.

ok

or its just a good game series and not that japanese automatically revere tradition

That game pissed me off to no end. As soon as you're starting to get into it, it switches characters and you're back at lvl1.
By the time I got the full party I was too burned out to continue.

Docked and even handheld gameplay
youtu.be/veuP3icch5w

Hell ya

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>3.4 million in Japan
>600K everywhere else
Lmao

>2D mode is full 1080p
No surprise there. But 3D mode however...
youtu.be/wWhLwBDd_LQ

>Brother's playing DQ11 for the first time
>"This is a bit boring. And why does everything sound like a marching band?"

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>Have your party trailing behind you
Yeah graphically it's slightly worse but nearly everything else is improved to such a degree I don't really mind a slight bit of fuzziness since I have the PC version if I really want clear looking graphics of it.

youtu.be/veuP3icch5w?t=194
>in the west only like 5 people would get this reference
Man I can't wait to play it again.

>DQ7
>3DS
cringe

They talk that handheld mode could probably be 720p because the quality its pretty crisp. But I really doubt it is. Maybe 560p+ like FF12. But i dont known. I fucking hope it runs at native

720p seem likely in handheld but as I said I'm more in it for the extra contend since I have the PC version if I wanted a more crisper look.

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Also now I wonder about another thing. Battery life. If one will get more battery life out of 2D mode compared to 3D mode. That could be pretty neat if you want to game for longer on trips

Why the fuck does weeaboo just mean "Japanese" now? Is this like how the Australians and Netflix are trying to steal the word "anime"?

Dragon Quest has always been popular, I have my original Famicom games I imported way back in the day still in the box

>virtue signaling on an anonymous board
You just wanted to sound a little smart didn’t you, retard?

This nigga actually has pretty good taste, better than 90% of you Slavic street squatters just playing autism simulators on your work station

>you should be an Emucuck
How about you get fucking banned nigger fuck Emuniggers

its not hard its just grinding all day which isnt fun.
if i wanted to grind like a retard i could play wow

I didnt even know that was a video game, I thought it was just a medium for doujins

Imagine being this asshurt

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>you're virtue signaling how much you hate it
Do you even know what "virtue signaling" means you fucking retard

I'm surprised these guys aren't mad that the composer denies the alleged atrocities supposedly committed by the Imperial Japanese Army which in reality were instigated by the communist forces that Japan tried to prevent from colonizing China

Shocker isnt it?

Imagine going to GameFAQs and then when someone has a different opinion than you, you screencap it and then rush to Yea Forums for support.

>seething this hard
What support? Post and laugh or go home. Stay mad

>Shypox: characters randomly fail to act in battle
Doesn't this just make every fight an RNG-fest. I'm pretty sure giving healing spells a chance to fail was probably one of the worst mechanics in old RPGs that quickly got booted out because of how unfun it is.

>implying ratings mean anything
Remember that professional critics gave God Hand 4/10

user the art style is literally by Akira Toriyama, don't be retarded

then play it on a sd2snes or super nt, jesus
or if you want to waste money for some reason, a repro cart

I don't know what any of that shit is, you know how I play the game?
I take the box out of my shelf, open it. And out the cartridge in my Super Famicom
3 easy steps but I know that's 3 too many steps for an Emunigger to follow

Seething

>DQ
>Actually game

Does anyone else just use a guide for alchemy recipes in DQ8? It's such a pain otherwise

yikes.... just yikes.... imagine buying children's toys....

Well yes, because I was a kid when the Super Famicom came out what did you want me to do? Buy a beer and a play boy?

This

And this

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Based post

I love JRPGs and have completed over 150 of them. Dragon Quest is basic bitch shit for brainlets unable to grasp even moderately complex mechanics and settings outside of generic European fantasy. It's honestly really sad, but very typical that a series like this would be so popular.

>Yea Forums has the same taste in games as onions glugging bugmen
woah...

sell your toys virgin, no one still plays with them as an adult....

Absolutely
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Nothing wrong with vanilla ice cream.

My Japanese girlfriend likes my game collection

Arent DQ games just casual version of Wizardry?

They are. There was a thread complaining about Joker and Hero as DLC characters because the former has homophobic stereotypes in P5 and Hero had Sugiyama

>One big shitty imperial dictatorship invades a shitty small commie country so it means they were trying to save the people from communism!
Ok, of this faggotry is what "truely" happen, where is your source for this "true" version and why did they attack Chen Kai Shek, who was at war with the communists?

>guy gave godhand the correct score
And...?

based. DQ XI was great. Sorry KH cucks cant ruin another series.

Dragon Quest XI was great, but it lacks Yangus.

DQ is its own thing. If you want to talk about Japs making their own pleb friendly Wizardry, look no further than Etrian Odyssey luring in droves of weebs to unforgiving dungeon crawling.

>small commie country
China had 300 million people vs Japans 50 million

Wizardry = Ultima >>>>>>> Dragon Quest

>it's yet another Japanese war crime negationism
Post the gif. You know the one

If there are perverted mini games, they better not be censored in the west.

>no one was even talking about KH
>DQfag brings it up anyway
O B S E S S E D

it's for when you finish a game and want a challenge purely based on tactics
Toriyama is just the character designer, horii is the one who designed the series

and yet recent Dragon Quest games have been better than recent FF games

Sadly we had two twatty tween stars called Jedward promoting it in the U.K

>Incredibly generic story which is extremely linear with no interesting choices offered to you
>Way too many monster look ugly and uninspired with a ton of recolored monsters
>Very few noteworthy music, and the repetition of the same theme over and over is annoying
>combat is way too easy and you can't change the difficulty
>graphics are decent but the world feels hollow

If you're not "charmed" by its artistic direction stay away, it's a plain game.

>japan 1937
600,000
>Commie china (1937)
40,000
>Japan 1945
1,124,900 (excluding Manchuria,Burma, and Pacific theaters)
>Commie china 1945
1,200,000

What in gods name are you talking about, 600,000 people?

>you can't change the difficulty
Is there anything worse than a shitposter that doesn't play the games they bitch about?

why is god so violent sheesh, learn so manners

Why is the west so obsessed with social justice?

I love VIII, it's much much better than XI. XI is a great game though, but VIII just did a lot of stuff better.

Couldnt disagree more
Ive played every DQ game and 11 is contender for the absolute best one

Also you are fucking stupid if you think 8 was better, zero customization only 4 party members, shit crafting system, tension was broken and shit
I think you are just a sony shitposter honestly.

would 11 be a good time to get into the series? I actually did play VIII but that was fucking ages ago.

Soldiers

Yes
You will miss some references and the game is connected subtly to past ones but its fine

Skill points allow for a lot of customization.
Tension is often negated by most bosses having Disruptive Wave.
Crafting is fine. Allows for risks, but also you find a lot of recipes in the world.
6 party members in 3DS version.

a bodypillow is not a girlfriend....
also have children with a white woman you weeb......

>Skill points allow for a lot of customization.
Not really 8 has the first and worst implementation of skill points in the series and it basically boils down to choose one weapon and pour all points in it and the one character specific skill, thats it
>most bosses having Disruptive Wave.
only the last 4 or so bosses have that move, also timbrel of tension, they cant negate shit when even the extra boss is cheesed with it
>Crafting is fine.
On 3DS where you dont have to wait yeah

How about the slowest battle system in the series (on ps2) an inefficient and awful UI redesign for gaijins and big load times everywhere
I like 8 but its one of the worst games in the series

Stay mad roastie
While you're at your feminist rallies with Jamal my girl is going to the fridge to get me another beer while I finish Super Donkey Kong 2

>he thinks beer is good
I rather fuck an "ooh masta" chick than drink liquid piss

How soon will 11 switch version be able to be emulated?

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Kek. No rebuttals whatsoever to every other arguments.

Yes you can remove the draconian settings in a church but you can't increase the difficulty if you want a challenge in your playthrough.

Shit game is shit.

i agree that it's one of the worst in the series but because the overworld is unbearable. it's fucking huge and the random encounters make exploration a god damn pain in the fucking ass. it wasnt a problem in earlier games cause they were 2d and movement was fairly quick but by god it's unbearable in 8.

You complained about "generic story" for a fucking DQ game. Their entire point is that sort of setting with the only standout example being 5. I agree with modern big empty areas being shit, but that's not going away for any series it seems.

>my girl is going to the fridge to get me another beer
Get that beer yourself, virgin. Gooks are radioactive.
>while I finish Super Donkey Kong 2
The game is called "Donkey Kong Country 2" you fucking wapanese.

I'm not dating a gook I'm not into bestiality
My box says Super Donkey Kong 2

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3DS version made 8 decent

what the FUCK
surely you mean shit

We are edging closer and closer to the DQM announcement. How hard will Horii destroy pokemon sword and shield with one single trailer?

No, it fixed almost all its problems.
No more random encounters, instant alchemy, extra party members, Dhoulmagus backstory, can marry Titty mc Tits and more

Ah and it balanced tension to make it less stupidly broken.
Its still a shit mechanic but not as bad anymore

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>its not hard its just grinding all day which isnt fun.
>no EXP gain on hard mode after a certain point

>idiot thinks the PS1 version is better
>the 3DS improved literally everything

>DQXI is hilariously bad, and it's flaws are pretty obvious.
>only lists one flaw

>Every fucking character looks like Gohan.

Why do Dragon Quest threads have the most ignorant contrarians? At least do some basic research if you're going to try and cite specific things. If not, just resort to your usual "it sucks because I don't like it" routine. At least then you won't look like an idiot by people proving your specific examples wrong.

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Beats me, but DQ music is crap.

For the same reason the rest of the world loves Pokémon. Simplistic game design and nostalgia. I’m guilty of it too.

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Dragon Quest VIII on PS2 was already above "decent." The 3DS added a little extra content, but the base game was already one of the best ever made. It's like trying to say the DS version of Chrono Trigger made the game playable.

Something like Dragon Quest VII 3DS. Now that took a game which had massive issues on the PS1 and then made it good enough to play. Though I'd say the on field enemies was a flaw. But really its only flaw.

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Even when he does he has a successor already in line who's practically him but younger. Hell all three of the have one. Toriyama, Sugiyama and Horii. The based trio will live on with their successors.

>How hard will Horii destroy pokemon sword and shield with one single trailer?
Not hard to do since any game can look good next to Sword/Shield. But Monsters still will have 20x less people playing it than Pokemon does. Having the superior game still loses to the other game having a massive marketing blitz.

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>basing your taste on what other people enjoy
I’ve never seen someone so insecure and beta in my life

What kind of DQfag are you? DQ is shit

WHo are Horii and Sugiyama's successors? First I'm hearing of this. Sugiyama has inspired a lot of people including Uematsu. But none of them write music just like him. And If you're talking about the producer of Dragon Quest, he can't fill Horii's shoes. He doesn't even work in game design. He handles the financial aspects of the series.

But yes, Akira Toriyama does have a small team of people who work under him. And do a pretty good job imitating his style. Though that's no guarantee they'll stay that way when Toriyama retires.

Welcome to everyone who listens to reviews (video games or otherwise).

Horii's I believe was mentioned to be Takeshi Uchikawa and Sugiyama's I honestly forgot his name. As for Toriyama as long as Dragon Ball sells they won't change the art style so there's that. But for a implicit person I'd say it's probably Toyataro. The guy works directly with the guy with designs after all.

>Takeshi Uchikawa
I remember his name from IX which was really good. I think he has what it takes.

>Had to turn off AI and just control my party because he never stopped casting Beat
I am fine with their AI on the overworld and in dungeons since they tend to just throw every spell in the book which leads to interesting things happening without that much worry of death. But bosses fuck you game.

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>Takeshi Uchikawa
He's just the director of the latest game. By that logic, we could say anyone who has worked on a DQ game could be Horii's successor. A lot of people were speculating Akihiro Hino was going to become the next Horii. But when he went off and made his own games without Horii's help, it quickly became evident that he sucks at game design. He focuses 90% of his time and attention in graphics. The same thing happened to the people who left Chunsoft and formed Genius Sonority. Yeah, they made good games under Horii. But their stand alone games sucked hard.

This happens because Horii has total control over his games. Everyone else just implements his ideas. And Horii playtests the fuck out of them, then tells them what parts to fix. There really isn't any independent creative control from the team members. So we really couldn't tell if Takeshi Uchikawa has the chops to do something alone unless he did something without Horii.

based user, ignore the literal racist /pol/ schizos and keep living your based life

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>Why do Dragon Quest threads have the most ignorant contrarians?
Dragon Quest just started getting popular. So they haven't had the years to learn the talking points like Final Fantasy or Pokemon. Lord knows they're not going to actually play the games. Where do you think you are?

How is tension broken? Honest question, only started playing

>removed random encounters
stopped reading youre a moron zoomer please stay out of dragon quest threads in the future

It's not really. You're just trading turns for the possibility of doing stronger attacks down the line. With a chance the stronger attack won't work or the enemy has tension reducing/negating effects.

I played all of Dragon Quest VIII without using tension once and did just fine. Then I played the game again and tried tension. Tension actually made most battles longer. It's really only overpowered late game if you abuse a specific item. Which does make the post game boss easier. But in random mob battles and most boss battles? It's just slower.

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Have you even played III? It's a masterpiece

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>actually play a game they're bashing
Read the thread. It's evident most of them haven't.

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youtu.be/78Fu4w33ipc
Oh look. Smash Ultimate just sold another 10 million copies.

I want to rub Maribel's tummy

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yeah snes 3 is my favorite overall for its polish and simplicity

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I want to rub her flat chest.

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Idk much about DQ but sounds like there's no way to know who can succeed Hori until he lets them fully take control.

I'd give the guy a bit more credit. Being a director he has a bit more control than you're letting on.

Yeah, pretty much. No one will really be able to take over for Horii because he's in a unique position. About the only comparable people are Will Wright, IGA or Hideo Kojima. And it's questionable if you believe those people handled total control over their projects well.

Now you're making me want a dream team of IGA, Kojima, Horii all in one game.

It's not the west as a whole. Just the elitists who tried to use it as a ploy to divide the population. When polls are taken, like 7% of people say they support it. And of course the media that focuses on it bomb.

IGA is too prideful to work with others. Kojima and Horii have total opposite design philosophies for games. I mean, I don't want to crush your dreams but...

>western games are about sexuality

????

>it’s another westcuck wonders why Japan doesn’t give a shit about his westcuck thoughts and sentimentalities thread

Stay baka, gaijins

>Will Wright
This. Though I do wonder how that game would turn out. Kojima designs gameplay, IGA story and Horii design? That'd be pretty weird.

I don't see how it could work because they all work on story/scenario design over gameplay. But at least when it comes to Horii, we know he'll work with others. He co wrote Chrono Trigger, but let Masato Kato do most of the core ideas and the final draft. I don't know if Kojima or IGA would take a backseat position like that.

Well, apparently Yuji Horii does care about Westcuck shit since he made DQ in the image of Wizardry and Ultima.

But it WAS broken day one, even if they did fix it.
And don't forget, it took them until gen IV to fix the physical/special split for attacks so that attacks like fire punch uses Attack and not Special Attack.

>And don't forget, it took them until gen IV to fix the physical/special split for attacks so that attacks like fire punch uses Attack and not Special Attack.
And that just caused a myriad of new problems with Pokemon skills, stats and integrating old Pokemon. And they never fixed any of those things. Sword and Shield dropping all the old Pokemon could have fixed this, if it was a total reboot of the franchise. Instead, it's not rebooting anything. It's keeps all the flaws, just not having all the Pokemon. So no one is happy.

>silly westerners you only say that because you didn't play them
I have played Secret of Mana, Dragon Quest III and Chrono Trigger.

They are all fucking BORING.

Fuck you and everyone who likes this overrated trash.
DQ4&5 on the other hand are pretty neat. I recommend them.

Dragon Quest sells itself on being JRPG comfort food. The games aren't particularly ambitious by the standards of the genre, but they do one thing and they do it really well.

>likes Dragon Quest V
>doesn't like Chrono Trigger
Makes no sense. Unless you like something besides story, characters and design.

DQ games have been very ambitious. The issue is, they came out so early, they did most things first. And people end up playing later series like Final Fantasy, Pokemon, Mother and Tales which use the things Dragon Quest already did. Then they go back and play a DQ game and say "shits cliche. I already saw Final Fantasy do this!" Not realizing Final Fantasy got it from Dragon Quest.

I'm going to marry Veronica!

Really little things like how much time it takes to break a pot, or do you enter doors automatically or have to press a button, pictures vs text in items list, or just walking speed really make DQ8 on 3DS. I just started DQ7 on 3DS, and it's already a million times better because breaking barrels feels good.

And fucking PARTY CHAT. In DQ8, you have to press Y, wait like two whole seconds, then choose a character to talk too. It's nauseating, so I never did it. Really the 3 extra seconds just make it not worth it. If it was just one button, and it automatically chose who to talk to, it'd be better and less writing.

That wait is because the localization team sucked at coding. Same reason battles take 5-10 seconds to load, while on the Japanese PS2 game they were instant. All because they just had to get voices in the game.

Which DQ isn't worht playing?

DQ1 because it's pure grind. It's nice what they were trying to do and you could beat it in an afternoon if you really want to but man it's a a hard game to play now because of that.

DQ2 is also grindy but really what makes it bad is just how annoying everything is. You have 0 idea where to do and the NPC hardly gives you any idea where to go or what to do. You will bound to just use a guide to get through the stupid game.

Everything else however is fine to play. DQ6 is a bit boring for most. And DQ7 is a game that feels like it never ends. But they aren't really bad games just something to be careful with. As for where to start 3DS or emulate PS2 DQ8 or get DQ11 either on PC/PS4/Switch (Switch has the most content so if you have that system say get that one).

None of them. The "worst" DQ game is still good. Those being II and VI. And really they only seem worse when compared to other DQ games. When compared to most JRPGs, they're well above average.

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It would've been even higher if they brought over the 3ds version.

They're talking about dragon quest not banjo.

Thank you op. I just made a note on the nov 16th on my calendar so I won't forget about the sales.

DQ3, DQ8 and DQ11. Skip the rest.

It's higher anyway. Because we have no data on how much the PC version sold. These idiots are also citing numbers from like 2 months after the game came out. For all we know, it's sold another million since then. And of course, the Switch version is going to sell far more just because of getting actual marketing and hype at E3, let alone Smash Bros.

This could easily be the first DQ game to break 2 million outside Japan.

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It's a great game, well deserved.

6 is the least cool one because the creator was busy with Chrono Trigger, 2 gets maddening hard. All of them are fun.

HOES MAD
but seriously, imagine having the gall to claim. Monsters or DQ8 is shit