Nobody asked for this. We should have gotten Shantae
Nobody asked for this. We should have gotten Shantae
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HOES MAD
HOES MAD
indie characters don't deserve to be playable in smash
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Shantae doesn't deserve to be in Smash and I do mean this quite seriously. Only one game of any true merit.
stay mad waifufag
>Shantae
What dragon quest game should I play next? Just beat builders 2, already beat 7, 8, 11, and builders 1.
Shantae's in the game already.
The part of her fans care about anyway.
DQM if you want to get over how shitty Pokemon has become.
DQ Rocket Slime for a different kind of fun.
possibly play every mainline DQ at least once.
Hoes be mad and shit
>Nobody asked for this.
Like all of Japan did.
HOES MAD X 24
I asked for it. Cry about it to your mommy, milk-drinker.
Give me one actual reason Shantae of all people should be in smash that isn't based on fan polls and the fact that she existed for a while.
What the fuck even is that white thing
Popularity is the biggest factor that matters, evident by Banjo.
That being said, Shantae is not popular enough to be playable, but if she had none she wouldn't atleast be a spirit.
Her toolkits from the various games could translate into a fun moveset for Smash.
Banjo had more than just popularity thanks to an actual N64 legacy, but popularity was what brought him above others.
Moveset potential.
>inb4 sass about how Sakurai can make anyone special regardless of their origin game.
Don’t @ me if you have a reply like that, you’re not smart or original.
i played his game, it was boring as fuck
BAIT
Whenever I see that girl cow it makes me think of the diarrhea cow from Conker's Bad Fur Day and I get a boner.
Plenty people asked for that. You're just a bitter faggot.
oh man such creativity:
>up b: flaps wings as a harpy
>side b: monkey jump
>b: fire ball
>down b: elephant stomp
SO CREATIVE!!!!!
MOVESET POTENTIAL DOESN'T GUARANTEE YOU A SPOT. JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU NIGGERS IN CASE YOU WERE THIS NAIVE.
MY IDEA ABOUT MONADO ARTS BUT IT TURNS YOU INTO DIFFERENT FORMS THOUGH FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>MONADO ARTS BUT IT TURNS YOU INTO DIFFERENT FORMS THOUGH
that would work is Shantaes different forms were actually fleshed out in her games, but they aren't, WayForward is all about quantity not quality with that stuff.
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Fuck you OP.
Mario is already in Smash.
>Those cute twinks
Fuck this pond, why is everyone over here a fat ass white faggot
Who even wants Shantae?
Nobody asked for this. We should have gotten Tsareena.
Why is Gooey from Kirby with Big Bird and Fursona Olimar
Burgers, Starbucks, not valuing greens.
Twitter.
Japs are too busy being busy to eat.
meanwhile, mutts, bongs, germs and what-not are stuffing their faces with fastfood almost every day.
also, the Japs got indoctrinated well.
I did. Shantae is garbage.
Hoes fukkin mad
But in all honesty you should kill yourself
Shantae is just fapbait. If the protagonist of Shantae games wasn't just pandering, the games would rarely be talked about. and fade into obscurity.
Hopefully it'll happen anyway as they are mediocre platforming games
>ARIGATOU SAKURAI-SAN *starts crying and sobbing*
And they say the basedboy thing is american only
Never understood the Shantae pride for Smash.
Like, it was only for the moveset potential ? There are plenty of other characters that have a moveset potential. At what moment did Shantae became a popular pick ? Is it for the Indepedant rep ? If so, Shovel Knight, Isaac or even Frisk are more interesting for the representation. It might be just for the Waifufagging.
That's actually a good point, by our standards those are all relatively cute boys, whereas in reaction videos here it's a bunch of 5/10 fat mutts
It's both and how she has had decades of games at this point, all with a history on nintendo systems
Basically she's the perfect hipster smash pick for the cereal mascot crowd
This was just Nintendo holding up their part of the deal with Squeenix.
Sakurai: "We want Cloud and maybe Geno this time guys"
Squeenix: "hmmm... Maaaaybe ...
I dunno, we don't really need you to promote FF7, that will sell on it's own.
We'll give you Cloud and 2 songs, if you put Dragon Quest in the game. Those games do terrible in the west and we want a slice of that sweet Fire Emblem pie."
Sakurai:"..... Fine"
Oh give it a fucking rest already. They're genuinely happy. Dragon Quest means a lot to Japanese video game fans.
There’s no rhyme and reason to which indies get big. Why is Kanna from Blaster Master Zero 2 Inti’s most popular character? How did Mighty get the most money out of all the indies? How did Hollow Knight go from a small beginning to a well known name within a month?
Smash is a ticket to popularity and that’s a constant.
>doesn't include the best one
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Cope, and keep crying
>implying Sakurai didn't jump at the chance to put Hero in Smash
DQ3's one of his favorite games of all time and he reveres Dragon Quest, just look at the interview he did after the E3 2019 announcement about how concerned he was about properly repping DQ in Smash.
As if Sakurai conceded for DQ. Shit is absolutely an honor for him. Stupid ass Genofag.
You're being a little bitch because you think fans being happy about something is "unnatural behavior".
Imagine being entitled over a videogame's roster of characters.
should've been Gex if we're being honest here
Will he ever get a new game? Fucking Bubsy got three this decade.
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>At what moment did Shantae became a popular pick ?
The moment Wayforward themselves told people to vote for Shantae for Smash 4 and even made mockups.
he wouldn't really work in modern day, he kinda thrived on the perfect storm that was everything in the 90s.
I hate the fact that so many characters had arguments made for them with a point being "the devs want them in" like no shit, most devs will want their characters in Smash Bros, it's such a dumb point to make, but it was unironically a huge argument people used to make for characters getting in.
Speaking of Bubsy, was Paws on Fire any good? How much did it sell?
Who owns the rights to Gex now?
>she has had decades of games at this point, all with a history on nintendo systems
Yeah, but many characters also have that criteria. Altough, i agree that it's pretty much the fake ''''''dissident'''''' pick for those who like shitting on popular picks.
Indies are a very weird case for Smash. But if one day an indie rep got in, that would be Shovel Knight, since it already a assist trophy. (For the next game, why not ?)
Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
Square Enix
Most people have been saying it's the best Bubsy game, but that's not a hard barrier to hit, plus the game kind of stealth released, I doubt many people knew the game was even out.
You know what? Out of the candidates from this generation we actually got a good fucking grapple-based character with some showy character. I cannot understand why so many people hate fucking Incineroar if not for salt over the Grinch leak.
Also
>Tsareena
>thread asking for Shantae
Why the fuck does everyone keep asking for more waifubait in this god-damned game.
disappointed it's another weebshit swordfighter, but at least it's not FE
That only applies to Shantae
MSF, Milky Way, Catgirl needs Salad, Lit, fuck even their Licensed games are top tier.
Wayfoward is the maximum example of "We're good at everything except the thing we're known for"
Gex cameo in Final Fantasy when?
Yeah I think Shovel Knight would be the sensible pick since he’s lodged himself into the title of “The Indie” through sheer cameos.
Smash gives popularity even to characters who aren’t in though, simply appearing on Smash speculation is a boon.
>toolkits from the various games could translate into a fun moveset for Smash.
You could literally make this a copy pasta and just replace the name. This is probably the most generic argument.
Devs wanting their character in adds to the popularity for a pick for sure, but its not entirely around that. Again, many other characters have this criteria (example : pic related). But i don't think it add chances to be in tough.
Shantae
SHANTAE
AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
what if he was in Kingdom Hearts 4
Because there were hardly any new female characters introduced in Ultimate, and that's bullshit. We should have at least gotten Lyn (most popular lord in Heroes) and Ashley (WarioWare Gold promotion and unique magic character), but nope. Let's put in cereal mascots and barabait.
>Lynfag
>Ashleyfag
OH NONONONONONO
Why?
I have never played a shante game and don't intend to. I have enjoyed several Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest games
>Because there were hardly any new female characters introduced in Ultimate
Inkling
Daisy
Leaf
Dark Samus
Isabelle
Did Shantae's creator seriously ask the fans to vote for her? Holy shit how fucking embarrassing
Why don't dqIII and IV nes have any hacks that undo the stupid censorship? The remakes suck dick.
Daisy and Dark Samus are only echoes so they don't count. Isabelle is a semi-clone. Leaf doesn't count because you play as her Pokemon. Meanwhile, we got Ridley, Simon, K. Rool, Incineroar, Piranha Plant, Joker, Erdrick, and now Banjo, all of whom are full-fledged newcomers.
Plant isn't male
*Hero
not Erdrick, whoops
Yes he is. He shares the same victory theme as Bowser & Bowser Jr.
>They didn't introduce new female characters
>They actually did
>NOOOOO THOSE DON'T COUNT BECAUSE OF MY MADE UP RULES
Okay then, go fuck yourself.
>I don't know what "hardly" means
Are you dyslexic?
That theme is for Mario villains. Wendy has that theme too.
>Changes the subject because he knows he fucked up
Kek. Also, that would mean they also "hardly" introduced any males since they added 5 females and 7 males
>If so, Shovel Knight, Isaac or even Frisk are more interesting for the representation.
Reimu's the only Indie. worth putting in.
Wendy is only an alt.
Again, most of the females were echoes or semi-clones.
I should have known you would have responded with a complete non answer. Why do I ever bother replying to obvious bait?
Ahem, fuck shantae and fuck niggers.
For Reimu, she can be in for Ultimate, since Touhou isn't represented yet, but i doubt it, since indie games are mostly western and Touhou is only the japanese indie game that is popular.
If she isn't, that means Indie rep will probably be in the next smash, and that will likely be Shovel Knight, potential assist trophies tend to become fightable characters (Maybe Reimu can have her own slot, being Western Indie vs Japanese Indie)
>Nobody asked for this
Japan did. I did
>We should have gotten Shantae
What is the commercial or cultural significance of Shantae? It's an okay platformer series but nothing to spend Smash resources on
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>Touhou is only the japanese indie game that is popular.
Cave Story is Japanese. Yume Nikki is also another very popular one.
I wanted Erdrick a lot actually. You don't know what people actually voted for on the ballot.
He's the closest we'll get to Goku though.
If Sakurai wasn't scummy and actually mentioned that the Ballot would have been used for Smash Ultimate, Waluigi would have been guaranteed to be playable.
>wow look mom I didn't want Zoma, am I special yet???
hate you fuckers
>Lyn (most popular lord in Heroes)
But that's Ike
Yeah, but i don't see Cave Story or especially Yume Nikki as IP for the Indie rep and overall, Japanese indies games are just less popular.
Shovel Knight, Undertale, Super Meat Boy, Braid, Fez, FNAF, Limbo, FTL, Hotline Miami, World of Goo and so on.
Those games have more the indie aspect and bringed an original game mechanic idea or something similar, while Cave Story is mostly Metroidvania like and Yume Nikki, while good for experience, really don't bring much for gameplay. Touhou is the most likely and most popular since she popularized the ''Hell shooter'' genre., indie games are mostly on pc and since PC gaming is kinda niche in Japan, a Western Indie rep is more likely.
Pretty sure that Japan asked for him.
>WayForward
>quantity
are we talking about the same WayForward
>Waifufags
>SJWs
>Her creators begging for Smash Ballot votes
A good Smash rep is
>iconic
>interesting to play as
Erdrick only fulfills one. Shantae doesn't fulfill either.
Whores Peeved
Whores Peeved
I want Gex to be the main protagonist of Persona 6.
I doubt it
Waluigi is only really popular in the West
Which one does Erdrick not fulfill? Both of those seem to be fulfilled by him to me.
Aw, widdle hater.
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Hoes Mad
>wait wtf w-why did we get the father of all jrpgs instead of my shitty waifu bait indie character?????
>emba
yeah...how dare they show their fans they agree with them and support their flagship character getting into Smash.
thats like asking your kid to eat cookies you made, they're gonna do it anyway, asking is just a formality.
I'm bummed out because Incineroar is just a run of the mill grappler. Pokemon has so much potential for fighters, but we got the most boring possible option. Incineroar's moveset should've been moved to Starman and another Pokemon should've been added.
Tsareena would've also sucked too.
finally a reasonable user in here.
I personally think that while she doesnt outrank Shovel Knight or HK in any one thing except maybe length of history, all the stuff Shantae does have gives her a slight potential edge in being playable, its honestly hard to think of who could be playable first given sometimes ATs get upgraded by next game and sometimes even super likely ones to us fans just dont like Takamaru and to some Ashley or other Shadow.
Shantae DOES have an online icon in Smash Ultimate which is an odd outlier given her status in the game as a spirit only representation.
I would loved Primarina cause Id want to see how they do a Pokemon that doesnt really have "limbs" that function well as arms or legs in traditional sense for a fighter.
>Literal nobody from trash waifu bait game
>Veteran game character from classic long lasting series
>nobody asked for dragon quest
>should have gotten fan service indie nigger
megla dud da patrick
i know you're just baiting to make Shantaefags look bad, but DQ is awesome and was long overdue to be playable, shut the fuck up
t. shantaefag
>over 100 replies for the most obvious bait thread I've seen in a while
I despise every single one of you.
Pong has lasted a long time. Should it get in, too?
9 is unadulterated grotto hunting kino
yes
Yeah, that's why it did.
>pong
Its just color tv-game 15. I'm just correcting you on the name.
mfw if Shantae gets into Smash we'd get fanart of her transforming into a slime to playfully mess around with the Heroes and also play with an actual slime.
itd be so fucking adorable.
Based stevefag
>stevefags are back to falseflagging shantae again
If you do this shit you're the trash killing this board, and if you fall for this shit please just kill yourself. This doesn't just mean this thread, it means all the stupid false flag trolling bullshit. God, I fucking hate Yea Forums.
I didn't know what that thing was until like 6 months ago when my friends forced me to play FFXIV, and I'm 22.
This show was terrible
I'm still not sure whether I'll end up using 4 or 8 as my skin.
I'd use 4 but they didn't include the girl and that's a dealbreaker, so I'll be using 8.
Wish it was Chrono Trigger...
Still Pong
I can't decide between any of them. They're so perfect
You tell me Pig isn't a fucking great character and I will literally not do anything but think you're incorrect
This would've been best.
>squeenix
>letting nintendo touch chrono trigger
nice joke
I don't get it, it came out on a nintendo console, then was re-released for a nintendo handheld.
If SE let them touch Cloud Strife and 4 Dragon Quest heroes, one of which being Erdrick, they would let Nintendo touch anything.
Alright so post your remix bets.
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No way in hell Sugiyama's gonna let his music be remixed.
We waluigifans are treated the worst
I never asked for that guy, but I think this guy is pretty goddamn baller-looking.
George Bush doesn't care about Waluigifans
can you not joke? We have been shit on since 2018. Stop
It's not a joke it's the truth,
Chadinary is my favorite DQ Hero desu
4 and 5 are kino
Buzzwole could have done everything Incineroar does but better, and its specials would have been way more intersting, like side special could have been leech life and shit like that. That's not even mentioning that it's an infinitely better design, a more accurate representation of what Gen 7 was all about, and the fact that it's not nearly as divisive as Incineroar. Nobody hates Buzzwole except a few complete fags, but a lot of people hated Incineroar before Smash was even in the picture.
it's interesting that two of 8's characters have had interactions with Mario characters in some form now (being Jessica in boom street and now 8 in smash)
Mario + Yangus kingdom battle when?
Wait, aren't you the Otis poster or something ?
Angelo, Jessica and Yangus (granted young MD Yangus) were all in Fortune Street with Mario.
You're right, nobody asked for a chibi hero, but I certainly fucking asked for Erdrick in all of his glory and even got Solo and the Guv to boot and he's even just like I asked his specials to be, command menu and all. NOW RELEASE HIM
The alt colors are also pretty dang sick.
I tried reading that text in Mario's voice
also fun fact, yoshi has text in the game mentioning not liking paying taxes.
Dude it's peak Toriyama DQIII. How can you not like it? Oh right muh swords wah wah
>b-but muh goku
that's the real reason.
>Ever since the dragon quest heroes was announced to be the next fighter in Smash Ultimate, it pretty much strengthen the "GOKU CAN BE IN SMASH BROS!1!111!!!" faggotry from Gokufags that unironically want Goku to be in Smash Bros despite Goku being a Manga character first and foremost
How many time do we and Soccerguy keep telling the Gokufags that Goku can and will NEVER be in Smash Bros?
I always read it in Mario's voice. I also read this in his voice. That also was a really fun fact, thanks for telling me that.
Original DB is awesome, and Erdrick is the closest we're getting to Goku.
>Six hour long VOD
Damn did she just watch the entire Nintendo E3 and its after direct conferences.
DQ 7>4>5>3>11>8>6>1>2
and here I thought people called 8 bandana goku guess that makes Erdrick sword goku without hat.
>Implying that's going to stop the Gokufags from pushing the idea that Goku is qualified to be in Smash Bros
She doesn't quite deserve it but I think if her next game sells well she should qualify for the next smash game.
I am actually kind of surprised she was just just a spirit instead of an assist trophy.
>girl
That's a man with tits.
>blue bandana
>canonically uses a spear.
he's in boys.
He's more Gohan and Goku
and Gohan basically looks like a DBZ design of DB Goku
Yeah but there are enough difference that you can call him more of a Gohan looking character than Goku.
But I always just pick Female Hero so all of this is moot.
>chrono trigger is the only toriyama art style thing not to have dragon in the name
really makes you think
>Here, Waddle Dee. This is the only way we can defeat Galeem.
Dr. Slumps but that was pre Dragon Ball.
uh, he doesn't have ears.
Based DQ VII patrician
7 kinda dragged on too long for me, especially since you couldn't teleport in the past which was kinda stupid.
release date when
Oh, well I guess that explains how this happens...
You don't want goku, he's evil.
I mean with all the shit he pulled everyone knows that. Hell the only reason he isn't a world conquer is he would most likely find it boring.