Why are Persona games so left-wing? Is it a problem with Atlus or does this happen in localization?

This is absolutely fucked. I played the Japanese version, and in that one the social link is about trying to stop the woman from ruining her work environment because she's a stupid degenerate whore. They fucking completely twisted it.

what do you expect in a series in which hitler is literally one of the boss of a game

They’re pretty non-leftist according to your /pol/ understanding of politics in that they bash gays, make sure all the girls are powerless and fall into the MCs harem, and SJWs write a lot of articles getting mad at them.
But stop trying to fucking assign politics to one-off lines and video games in general you fucking faggot. That line was partially that way because of the localization team and also partially that way because she was being treated like a slave by her manager.

neck yourself

>people in this thread are literally saying "it's okay when Japan does it"

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See retard

Isn't Sae character already about a female trying to step into the savage male work environment?
Kind of redundant to force this theme into another subplot.

>hippy fortune teller wants to tear down the patriarchy
yeah? That's a stereotype that has existed forever

Yes? And the farther right you go, the more overt it becomes.

The numerous inclusions of 'welp' make this easy to believe but I'd love proof.

>what can you do to help?
Explain to her that Women just aren't meant to have jobs outside of kindergarten teacher or prostitute if fail at life and don't have any money.
That pushing them into the workforce was all a Jewish trick to ruin the natural dynamic between Man being the providers and Woman being the home care takers.
All to break up the family unit, allow communists to take power, invade the countries slowly with 3rd world parasites that would birth lower IQ children which would be unable to oppose the elites. Thus securing Jewish rule over all creation.

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If it was a western game that has this there'd be OHNONONO posting for weeks but instead you faggots just pretend that japan has crazy complicated politics that make these lines ok.

>Mieko Matsuki died almost a year before the release of Persona 5

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why would you buy that shit that is p5 at full price when you can get p4 for pretty cheap, the best game in the series where they even bash faggots

why?

Japanese culture =/= American culture
In America, women are under the delusion they live in a patriarchy. In moon rune land, they are legitimately, unironically living in a amle-dominated culture.

To be fair it's okay when Japan does it.

They're assholes.

Japan’s politics are very different and women are treated pretty terribly in the working industry. In a perfect women shouldn’t be working like they do today and they should be homemakers instead but there’s literally no way that’s happening so ideally they shouldn’t be treated like slaves like Chihaya. Look into the idol industry in both Japan and Korea, the girls there have every second of their lives controlled by their managers and then their managers will claim they are in debt to them after a concert and not pay them anything while they pocket the profit.

have sex adachi

Probably going to get re-casted in P5R too. I can't imagine Chihya will get much new stuff, but they will probably still need to do it.

They don't. The poster you're replying to is just a demented lefty with no understanding of politics.

>Japan
>what can I do to survive in a male dominated society?
>Murica
>what can others do for me so my life can become even easier in an already egalitarian society
Learn the difference.

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>she's a stupid degenerate whore
so, she's just a regular woman?

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Nice out of context image fag

Ok, I get that you're a cuck, you still haven't answered why it's ok when Japan does it, politics shouldn't be in games.

>471221617
>baiting wrpg redditor

Social commentary isn't politics.

it literally is okay

>Stupid hippie who sells you literal salt for 200k says stupid things.
Sometimes you have to stop and think, OP.
Do the creators REALLY think this way, or are they just making up a parody?

Stop making this thread you RetardEra faggot

Getting sick of you retards inserting politics into literally everything.

As long as there is any narrative at all it can be interpreted politically.

How is it not politics you fucking idiots, she's complaining about men running things, just because you think it's ok in a Japanese setting doesn't mean it's not politics

Because she actually is getting oppressed instead of getting "oppressed"

Social commentary isn't politics unless you're a fucking SJW zealot who thinks literally everything is political.

Fuck off back to /pol/ you insufferable faggot. Nobody here wants to talk politics, this out-of-context line isn't politics, and you don't even give a shit about politics. Fuck off.

I see, so no difference at all.
Keep seething bitch

Japan has a law that requires women to wear high heels at work. Their entire workforce is less efficient because the PM has a fetish. That's enough for me to not get mad at this.

As much as that inconveniences women that is pretty based. It's almost as based as how it's the norm to wear cute skirts there too.

It makes no fucking economic sense, though. You're basically throwing money down the drain because of a fetish.

Because p4 is tedious trash while persona 5 is actually playable

>women looking presentable is a fetish

Dilate

t. roast

Because technically right wing ideologies always contain a hierarchy of some kind, while left wing doesn't. That's just in theory, because in practice it's not necessarily true

>Let's make women dress in this way that makes no sense because I want them to look fuckable as they bring me a coffee or do my taxes

Weebs don't deny this, they say western games are pozzed but love tranny shit if it's "cute"

Because the youth isn't as right wing as the old population.
Ryuji shitting on politics resume what the youth think of it

Prove it

This, if there is cute girls, any propaganda is fine to fucking weebs

>That line was partially that way because of the localization
Prove it

they can't, it's just what they say in every persona thread

this

Is everyone pretending to not know that she is purposefully being dramatic to play into her fortune teller thing every time this image is posted?

Sae wasn't ironic

Neither was makoto, the sisters criticized too the male dominant environment

It makes perfect sense. The only value women have is looking attractive, so if you're forced to employ them because globalism wants to tank birth rates, they should at least be attractive.

>the third best game in the series after 2 and 3
ftfy

Video games are made by teams of artists, writers and creative people, and those types of people are mostly progressive and open-minded.

>"I don't want politics in games"
>praises Persona 5
What do incels mean by this?

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>where they even bash faggots
P4 is liberal as fuck
Kanji's entire plotline is literally "it's okay for guys to like doing traditionally girly things"
Adachi's whole schtick is that he's a delusional incel which is why Yea Forums relates to him so much

Persona 5 is literally a game about teenage rebellion and shaming bootlickers and people who take advantage of corruption. Its entire identity is likely something you disagree with on an ideological level.
>but muh fatlus waifus!
>muh trad shy Asian gf simulator
Lol persona has always been teenage melodrama and anti conformity / anti establishment. It literally spawned as the subseries of a pulp fiction novel with the same themes

This is bait. I actually played the Japanese version, and it's exactly the same. EOPs should be banned from playing Japanese games because they have no fucking awareness of the culture at all and shit like OP's stupid post happens.

Why are nippon posters so based?

Wasn't she just talking out of her ass and constantly stealing very large amounts of money from people who bought into her bullshit?

pic and traslation

>男社会に虐げられている彼女、どうしたらいいと思います?

Same scene. Google translate that. Fuck this board.

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He's just talking out of his ass.
>What do you think this woman who's being oppressed by a patriarchal society should do?

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>SMT has the eternal conflict between Law, Neutral and Chaos
>Persona has this trash

>Persona 5 is literally a game about teenage rebellion and shaming bootlickers and people who take advantage of corruption.
>well how do we change the world and stop corruption from taking root in society?
>lol just use your magical chuuni powers to brainwash those effin shitty adults
stunning and profound social commentary, clearly

Fuck off adachi

It's the localization. This stupid shit isn't even a problem in Japan, it's a load of retarded American problems that the "translators" keep forcing in.

You need to look into beyond surface of gender imbalance to understand Japan's gender dynamics. More women prefer traditional gender role than men in Japan for a reason.

Japan is one of the 6 countries where women work less than men alongside with Norway, Sweden, Denmark, New zealand, Netherlands when they include house work into working hours. And Japan has the biggest difference among those 6 countries with men work 30 minutes more.

In most countries in the world women work more than men with countries like India or portugal have women work 90 minutes more.

bbc.com/news/amp/business-37767411

This difference lead to difference of subjective happiness or life satisfaction of male and female in Japan thus women fantasize traditional gender role. Pretty much any international/domestic statistics says Women's life satisfaction in Japan is extremely high compared with that of men in Japan. This is not true in western countries. In western countries, more often than not, men feel happier/ have higher life satisfaction than women of the same country.

46% of women in Japan rated their life satisfaction on the highest rung of the ladder compared with 31% of men in Japan survey by Pew research center in 2003. Women's life satisfaction - Men's life satisfaction in Japan is the second highest only after Pakistan which is one of the countries men literally have to go to war and have high chances of getting killed and have extremely low happiness ratio.

pewglobal.org/2003/10/29/global-gender-gaps/

In 2015 PISA's students' life survey, Japan is one of the only two countries that female students are more satisfied with their life than male students.Another statistics that show gender role in Japan often means tougher/ dirtier role for boys even in the earlier stage of life.

read.oecd-ilibrary.org/education/pisa-2015-results-volume-iii/gender-differences-in-life-satisfaction_9789264273856-graph7-en#page1

In World value surveys report, women in Japan who rated they were either very happy or relatively happy were 90.4% in 2010 compared with 82.2% of men rated in the same manner which makes 8.2 % difference and this is the highest number in the world. In about half the countries surveyed women were less happy than men.

www2.ttcn.ne.jp/honkawa/2472.html www2.ttcn.ne.jp/honkawa/9484.html

Many if not majority of women in Japan fantasize traditional gender role(being housewife) because housewives are literally the happiest demographic save for the elderly and students. Keep in mind housewife in Japan is not a submissive role looked down upon by society in Japan, husbands give up the whole paycheck and to be given "allowance" from housewives.

This is subjective happiness by employment status in Japan in the JGSS. The ratio of people who answered they are currently very happy(rated 5/5)

43.8% Female pensioners

43.6% Housewives

40.8% Female business owners

32.4% Male business owners

30.7% Male regular workers

26.8% Female non-regular workers

25.8% Female regular workers

25.6% Male pensioners

21.0% Househusbands

19.0% Male non-regular workers

15.7% Female job seekers

11.4% Male job seekers

gender.go.jp/about_danjo/whitepaper/h26/zentai/html/zuhyo/zuhyo01-00-28.html

It actually is okay when Japan does it though. Why can you not see that?

>lol just use your magical chuuni powers to brainwash those effin shitty adults
Based and RED-pilled. The corrupt enemies of the Revolution must be reformed or purged.

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>paragraphs of data
vs
>actual in-game text

yikes

It is okay when Japan does it, deal with it. This is an anime website.

retard

BTFO

Absolutely seething

Maybe the story would've had some depth to it if the villains weren't moustache-twirling caricatures

To be fair it's less Hitler and more the Mythologization of Hitler. It's Nyarlathotep appearing using lies, after all.

It's ok because they're hot.

/pol/ btfo

There has been drama about universities faking results so women won't score well.
So there goes your shit polls

Japan is very well known for lying on polls, there is one which state that 70% of japanese support same sex marriage.
It's obviously bullshit, more of the old population lie a lot.

>implying the bourgeoisie are anything but moustache twirling caricatures
5 years gulag.
Shido is the most realistic portrayal of a capitalistic politician in any media. Only way game would be better is if they shot the targets after their confession, along with Haru

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>all female party members except Futaba has some weird rapey shit in their introductory arc
Is everyone in Japan a rapist?

it appeals to their core audience so why not?

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Based, but you do realize that at the end of the game, society still continues in it's current capitalist state right? There was no meaningful revolution, the Phantom Thieves represent the status quo and they support petite bourgeoisie ideology. I think this game is not critical enough, and Capitalism as a system is far greater than just a single individual.

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If you have done some research into culture you wouldn't need to make this thread. Japan has heaps of its own problems, but none of it overlap with America's. There's left-wing, and then there's faggots like you who project all problems onto other countries.
I don't give a shit about what side you found fun to stand on. You do not qualify for free will either way.

Politically right? More like wrong lol.

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Is there a specific name for this hand gesture when people are using it while adding emphasis to their words?

Why are hyper-partisan mutts so retarded?
It's like they took the average 75 IQ mutt and then lobotomized it.

The incel finger

The Hitler Salute

women don't deserve rights

the genocide glide

Women > men
Thread/

>women don't deserve rights
no one deserves rights
the differences between men and women are too minute to matter to anything not human
humanity is fucking retarded

>tankies are sexless weebs

good luck with that revolution of yours beta-boys.

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you type like a woman, makes sense when combined with your retarded opinion

dont worry user im just pretending to be retarded

Imagine being a male supremacist on the eve of the machine uprising

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this seems so on-the-nose that it has to be some sort of parody

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>making things up to cope with your inferiority

Pathetic.

Persona 5 is more politically akin to the U.S. right wing as it stands.
>The Phantom Thieves prioritize the enforcement of their concept of justice over the rights and autonomy of others.
>The Phantom Thieves view themselves as underdogs despite their relatively privileged positions, and idolize self-interested thieves as political disruptors.
>The Phantom Thieves commit terroristic attacks because society is progressing in a direction contradictory to their beliefs.
>The Phantom Thieves can't convince anyone of the merit of their beliefs through direct argument and debate, and must instead resort to subterfuge, brainwashing, propaganda, and fear-mongering.
Also if you want to go for the low-hanging fruit, Persona 5 idealizes an Aryan standard of beauty, and demonizes homosexuality, both in direct contradiction to the values it espouses as core. If you want to go for the absolute lowest hanging fruit, the game glamorizes teen gun usage and is Nazi colored.

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That mostly describes the Bolsheviks as well though.
Stalin and gang were literal thieves performing bank heists and shit before the revolution.

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So much stupidity in one post

i can't imagine the backlash p4 would get if it was made today

test

Stalinism was fundamentally a dressed-up left-wing brand of fascism, which has a lot of similar hallmarks to the right-wing brand of fascism the U.S. is currently flirting with. Regardless my comparing of the values of Persona 5 with the values of the U.S. right is in no way the same thing as an endorsement of Stalinism, and it's dishonest argument to position me as a Stalinist.

It's only a little bit stupid.

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Make them fuckable is good for the economy and culture.

it's impressive how many people miss the ultimate point of the game. I generally assume people like you didn't get to the end because it's hard to believe your takeaway from the final dungeon was "using chuuni bullshit powers to save the world is great and has no consequences at all".