The Switch is so underpowered that it can't run a 2D indie game without compromises. That'll be $300 please

The Switch is so underpowered that it can't run a 2D indie game without compromises. That'll be $300 please.

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Just look at this shit it's a fucking megadrive game.

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>a shit port is the hardware's fault

Shit hardware is shit hardwares fault, Nintenbrony

It runs at locked 60 fps on literally every other platform.

it's a shit port, plain and simple. There is no reason at all the switch shouldn't be able to run this perfectly.

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another shit port this one's also a shit game

What game?

this contra-like game is great

>He bought a nintendoodoo shitch
hahahaha
>b-b-but is the dev fault!1!! s-shit port!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA

cope

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>There is no reason at all the switch shouldn't be able to run this perfectly.
It's not the 90s anymore, game developers are under no obligation to refine their games to run on foreign, radically different hardware from what's standard.

Kek, god this console is such a piece of shit.

blazing chrome

>game developers don't need to try and optimize their shit properly

Imagine using this excuse when almost every game looks and runs like shit. Maybe its the console if it's an issue with almost every fucking game?

Optimizing is one thing, having to physically modify how they coded the game to run is another entirely.

Yeah no faggot. Every single multiplat I've bought for the switch runs like absolute dog shit. Bloodstained was the last time I give this shit a chance.

As an indie dev, let me tell you that most indie devs are absolutely fucking garbage when it comes to knowing how to do anything properly or well.

So an indie game is likely going to be bloated and inefficient as fuck.

Every time I see a line of code from any other indie's games it just makes me want to scream at the dumb motherfuckers, you have no idea. Be glad you're as much of an ignorant cunt as you are.

>buy PS4 instead because of its superior hardware
>end up watching censored movies
OH NONONONONONO

cope seethe snoy nincel

Now copy paste those words into a notepad window a couple hundred times each, and you'll have a perfect recreation of this thread 20 minutes from now. No need to post in it at that point.

the cope is real

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I'm surprised the game runs like shit after all those downgrades.

If literally every single switch port is a shitty port, that tells you something.

Wtf I hate the Switch now

>optimizing is one thing
>but optimizing is another entirely!!!

did you not get enough oxygen when you were born and are currently retired or what

>even considering playing bloodstained at all

The Switch can run this just fine, blame the devs for their shitty optimization.

The game is available on PC and Xbox too, retard.

that is literally not true, CTR remake just recently is a pretty good port.

I'm not even that mad about the water reflection. I'm about how blurry the sprite looks. That's just awful.

I mean I don't think anyone is buying Nintendo Consoles for the graphics, especially where the Switch is concerned.
Would be nice if Nintendo took at LEAST a step into current hardware and had descent online.

Optimizing is improving loading efficiency, asset compression, and the like; having to literally go into the game and replace the original effects with approximations to lighten the load on the hardware is shit that we literally haven't seen since the 90s.

which is fucking sad because the console is fully capable, they just factory underclock the hell out of it
t. hacked switch owner

nah gimmicks are more important. like taking your giant "handheld" out in public to play it

>Nintendo actively makes games that look and play good.
>random devs don't want to put effort into a port but still want the switch playerbase
>"OH NO NO NO NO"

You have to be a special kind of stupid to not understand things like this.

you underestimate how absolutely fucking incompetent the typical indie developer is

>>Nintendo actively makes games that look and play good.

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>having to literally go into the game and replace the original effects with approximations to lighten the load on the hardware is shit that we literally haven't seen since the 90s.
nigger this happened all the time in 6th gen

>not playing igavania
Yeah you're a turbo faggot, nigger.

Curious, is it possible to overclock the Switch to improve game performance?

It's a multiplat.

you can argue the quality of the gameplay, but there's no denying that games like mk8, bing bing wahoo, and splatoon have great visuals and run smooth as butter too.

Okay? 6th gen started 20 years ago retard, point is the industry has moved on from those days.

>Nintendo makes games that look good
lmao
this just makes the Switch version an idiot's purchase.

I think the the function is cool.
I one of the people whos Switch is almost exclusively docked but I do like the idea of being able to take it with me, or even being able to transfer it from one room to another easily, which is what I plan to do next time my gamestore has a sale and docks are cheap.

The rest of the gimmicks Nintendo has had, the Wii remote, the Wiiu Tablet, fully agree they are terrible, but the Switch it self? Pretty good fucking gimmick.

The issue isn't just everything being a blurry mess, everything also runs like shit.

Most people who grow up as "nerds" and then get power or money end up being very bad people. They never get over their feelings as a teenager and try to make up for it once they have power. Look at Zuckerberg and hundreds of other people just like him. Hollywood is very similar. A lot of big producers and directors are actually nerds, so when they get power, they become crazy and try to take advantage of girls, young girls, etc.

Being a socially awkward nerd who gets power is usually not a good thing.

Why do you retards act like you can only ever play handhelds in public?

>playing multiplat games on Switch

never ever

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Well, thankfully gamers are also under no obligation to purchase half-assed ports!

The games I play have hiccups occasionally but it isn't too bad.
That being said I only buy exclusives and pretty much only play docked.
only got like 3-4 games.

So we're blaming the hardware for shit indie ports now? It's disgusting what lengths Yea Forums goes to for console war bullshit.

>playing TW3 on a console
why would anyone do this?

those pixel shit use the same engine as your AAA and demand as much ressources, running a pixel perfect clone of mario 1 on unity or UE would still demand 300 Mb of RAM and a graphic card. That's the tragedy with indie games.

Because when I'm at home I can play it docked on my nice TV?

>Be glad you're as much of an ignorant cunt as you are
the fuck man

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>bing bing wahoo
Doesn't Odyssey have to use dynamic resolution, interlacing, polygon culling, reduced refresh for distant objects, and heavy dithering to hit its 60 fps goal?

anything for easy (You)s, user

ironically looks better without those shitty shiny UE shaders nobody likes

It runs at 60fps on xbox. Pretty neat.

You can shitpost all you want, but you can't argue it's the port job over the system. The Witcher 3 running at 540p in handheld mode, that's the system. This shit is just bad porting.

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Blaming? This is a constant issue on this console.

I remember when Sonic mania had frame rate issues at launch on switch. Yet they actually got fixed up.

yes, sort of, nearly every game does that, and that, no. Don't know what point you were trying to prove besides the game being well optimized.

Yeah, someone made a utility called 'Freebird.' When you set it to the highest stable speeds, all loading times are reduced and menus are noticeably smoother. It even fixes the first-party zelda game that lagged before. It's crazy they don't do these things out of the box, or at least give the user the option to.

>no obligation to produce a half decent port
>but we still wanna cash in on Switch users

Yes, the res scaling happens a fuck ton on portable mode too.

Yikes that was pathetic. The fucking Switch had trouble running Sega Saturn style graphics in the bonus stages.

It's almost like there was a degree of effort that went into it so that it would balance performance and quality.

The Switch is underpowered, but in this case the developers were simply incompetent

not unless you're cherrypicking

>ps4 PRO to get decent frames on a 20 yo looking game
nigger how bad is this shit coded ? how is this even possible ?

left: soulless
right: soul

wut game

Kek, I feel bad for the delusional eetards that buy Switch shit, dragon quest is going to be a shit show.

Yes.

>It's almost like there was a degree of effort that went into it so that it would balance performance and quality.
It's almost like significant compromises and advanced programming techniques were needed to achieve what's standard performance on every other platform.

>The only alternative to "home" is "public"
Oh, I see. You don't get out much, do you?

The Switch doesn't exactly offer gigantic headroom for horribly ported games. While you can program your game like a total fucking retard and have it run on totally over kill hardware, that might not be the case when you have 5 Watts or so of power.

>what's standard performance on every other platform
>consoletards actually believe this

>Being this mad over the switch you misquote my post

How the fuck is it cherry picking when it happens with so many titles, exclusives included?

nintendo fags are the most pathetic fandom in all of gaming as a whole. these people make the word pathetic seem pleasant.

because there's many titles where this does not happen, which are conveniently ignored by these threads

No user, Graphicsfags will forever be the most pathetic group in gaming, and the sad part is their retardation is abundant even in the industry which bloats the shit out of development times and cost.

This. No sane person is going to argue that the Switch is capable of running actual modern AAA games anywhere near what other platforms can, but this is ridiculous. The devs on Twitter are acting as if the engine they're using is of the highest calibre and their game is some demanding shit.

This, this board has the same delusional retards defending it's garbage library and hardware.

>It's almost like significant compromises and advanced programming techniques were needed to achieve what's standard performance on every other platform.
That's the fucking point though, the argument here isn't "the switch is powerful", the argument is that the reason that the pixel art genesis looking game in OP looks worse on the switch is because the guy couldn't be bothered to put effort into it.

Remember when people thought the Vita was going to get console quality games?

The point is, there are MORE where it does. Most of the time when it doesn't, they are just last gen ports. Even fucking FF12 runs like shit on the Switch and can't even run at 720p.

You shut your mouth, if the Vita didn't exist we wouldn't have Gravity Rush.

>console fags are the most pathetic fandom in all of gaming as a whole. these people make the word pathetic seem pleasant.
fixed.

Not really, and even if it was, who's fault is that? The Switch being mobile hardware and portable is why the install base is so huge in the first place, if devs can't work around that to produce quality ports, that's on them.

>Graphicsfags
Imagine thinking demanding good performance in video games is somehow uncalled for.

>it's

>be Nintendo
>Have lowered development time and cost due to using visuals from the Gamecube gen
>Still produce next to no games, shovelware filler like Mario Party and Mario Tennis with zero effort

Blazing chrome is actually very poorly optimized game and its dev fault not switch

It's not the console you fucking idiot

>can't even render the rope
HUE! What a disgrace.

The GBA should be able to run whatever game that is in the OP, any trouble the switch has with it is on the dev for being hilariously incompetent.

Under powered is a silly word to use, it's a mobile system, not a full console.
The fact that the game looks like that and runs like shit is only proof that the devs are absolutely terrible.

/thread

>854p is below 720p

Nigger what?

Your average Switchtard doesn't give a fuck about performance or visual fidelity, why should developers bother porting over their games well? Remember when Doom and Wolfenstein at times literally dropped to 360p but it was somehow okay because "it's Doom IN YOUR POCKET DUDE!!!"

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>who's fault is that?
Nintendo for producing a shit tier console in 2017 for a premium. Apple tier scam

>graphicsfags
>demanding performance
So you're a hypocrite as well, nice.

>Visuals from the Gamecube gen

I know this is an instant (you) getter, but I can tell you haven't played Gamecube games in a long time.

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Hey idiots: Just because Metal Slug is 2D doesn't mean it would run on an NES

Genesis does what nintendon't, still true 25 years and a million consoles later

Actually it is every fucking game. The graphics in OP's post are obviously well within the realm of possibility for the Switch. It's just that indie devs can't/don't optimize to the same extent as professional developers. If you think the Switch can't handle moving around a few sprites you're fucking delusional.

>there are MORE where it does
[citation needed]

I only see a handful of the same few games posted where this is an issue, that does not look like the majority of all multiplats to me.

I find it funny how sonibronies always try to flaunt their hardware by comparing it to a gameboy. Being a consolewarrior truly is living in a little bubble of faggotry.

Nintendo is incompetent, but admit it, their platform is a goldmine for developers right now.

Anyone thing the switch can't handle this should look at the system requirements for the PC version of this game of the steam store page.

It uses game maker 2, none of what you said applies to it. It's probably just a bad port.

they still put games out faster than anyone else.

Should I buy a used switch to hack it and pirate every game?

That's some hardcore delusion.

>purchasing a console whose library is 90% indie ports in the first place
why

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what

>Your average Switchtard doesn't give a fuck about performance or visual fidelity, why should developers bother porting over their games well? Remember when Doom and Wolfenstein at times literally dropped to 360p but it was somehow okay because "it's Doom IN YOUR POCKET DUDE!!!"

Wolfenstein literally drops below cinematic quality (24 fps) and Switchers still defend this and say dumb shit like OMG HOW DID DEY DO DIS???

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>underpowered
>gimmick
>supposedly a handheld but too large and performs better docked
>dock scratches screen
>cheap, flimsy joycons
>library c
onsisting of rehashes, shovelware, the worst versions of multiplats and kiddie games.
>insufferable, delusional community
>manchildren love it
>system of choice for trannies and the morbidly obese.
>smash tournaments known for being comprised of people with no concept of personal hygiene
>an embarrassment to be seen playing in public
>horrible online, overpriced.
>console is overpriced, very low value in general
>often referred to as several derogatory names, some examples include “cucktendo shitch” or just “shitch”, “Fischer price tablet” or more rarely the “NINtENDO SWItCH” (the lowercase t’s representing the low testosterone of the typical Nintendo console owner)
I could go on but I think we’ve all seen enough to agree that owning a Nintendo Switch is undesirable.

And yet they still released it

that's all consoles nowadays including PC.

Are you fucking retarded? You're comparing apples to oranges. If this game showed off some amazing tech that hadn't been done in a thousand other games before, you might have a point. This is the most basic shit ever, and the devs clearly just shat it out to get Switchbux.

We're not discussing the NES here, your analogy is retarded.
Then don't port it to said hardware if you can't get it running proper. Jesus Christ this thread is full of mongoloids.

Looks a bit better than switch games

Yeah, like a Smash port in the past, what, 5 months? It's because all their in between is garbage low effort trash.

You could buy three switches or an iPhone X. You're a fucking idiot, here's your (You).

That describes literally every console

It's a fantastic game, and there's only so much you can do with UE4 on the switch.

>471177570
wow great argument

>If you think the Switch can't handle moving around a few sprites you're fucking delusional.
It demonstrably can't, look at the webms. The entire game physically slows down like a fifth gen console because its fillrate is too slow to run the game properly.

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Ok I'll bite. What are you trying to say by this?

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Boomer here, you couldn't have bungled the soul soulless meme any worse than you just did as a pathetic defense to keep eating the shit nintendo shoves down your throat

What is even happening, is this the Wii resolution? I guess the Switch is more of a cinematic console than the PS4 or Xbox. This game is 60 fps everywhere else.

>playing porn games on console
lmaoing @ ur life

>game maker 2
is even worse. Holy shit that barely qualify as a language to begin wiht, that shit is meant for prototyping for a reason.

it's the worst metroidvania of the past 3 years, and was heavily downgraded from what was promised.

NOOOO WE GOT TOO COCKY BROS HOW WILL WE EVER COMPETE AGAINST THE SONY PLAYSTATION 4 (Buy now for $300)

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>Dude SNK coulda ported Samurai Shodown properly to the SNES, they were just incompetent......

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christ that's bad

Apple of gaming desu.

That's an SDK, you should consider shutting the fuck up.

Nice source user, you sure BTFO'd him with hard evidence

>hey guys lets shift blame on the shit performance

I dont know, the switch seems pretty cool and all, but at 300 dollars Nintendo can go fuck itself.

>Megadrive
>This

Fuck off zoomer, don't speak of gaming systems you've never seen the color of.

Literally SNES quality

>Sees a SHMUP

HRK, *collapses at 1 frame a second*

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What game even is this?

Katana zero says hi.

why are snoyfags so desperate to shitpost about the switch's power when no one- literally no one- bought the switch because of it's hardware capabilities? If you want a budget PC you'd buy a PS4, no one buys the switch for the gwafficks
>cope seethe dilate have sex
yeah

Source is the Switch fucking library. Want me to start spamming this thread with the majority of games? I have the fuckin Switch, I've tried the games. It's a universal issue.

You are just a delusional fan boy.

Do you talk like that when you are with your friends IRL?

You are retarded

90s consoles were way more architecturally different. Now, they're mostly general purpose x86 machines. And an ARM like the Switch should be able to run a megadrive game with no hitches even in x86 emulation mode if they're too stupid to make it a native ARM application.

It's a shit port if they're resorting to these sorts of downgrades.

>it's the worst metroidvania of the past 3 years
By what standards? I don't give a fuck about your personal bias, it's a really good game.
>DUDE MY LE STRAWMAN ARGUMENT LMAO
The SNES didn't have the processor speed or RAM to handle SamSho. The switch has enough of both to handle a 2D sprite game with no 3D effects whatsoever. It must hurt to be that retarded.

ANYTHING will run slowly if it's poorly coded. Indie games today a filled with bloat, that's why it runs slowly. Contra 3 runs on a SNES with similar quality sprites because it's well optimized, it had to be to work at all. There's objectively orders of magnitudes more power in a Switch than a SNES. If this game was coded with the same level of optimization it would run at 1000+fps. That's how much bloat we're talking about here. It probably runs on Unity which loads a bunch of shit it doesn't need and then has mediocre implementation on top of that. Unless this thread is fulled with bait, I don't see why this is so hard for people to understand.

>believing the shit performance is due to the hardware and not due to the optimization
Games on Switch can run perfectly fine, look at shit like Rain World, Hollow Knight, Owl Boy etc. It's the developers that poorly optimized the game for the system, but nah let's just cherry-pick some games and say the entire system is underpowered and doesn't run games properly when that's blatantly false.

It's not an issue of graphics, it's an issue of games being unplayable messes where everything gets blurry and you can't see shit AND the framerate is garbage.

You've never taken a video game to a family or friend's place? Or taken one with you when travelling or on vacation?

>b-but irrelevant questions

the fuck does that have to do with any of this you retarded child

what the fuck

Blazing chrome
Contra clone

Because they can't compare it to an xboner x or a PC without getting humbled.

Post your switch with a timestamp and your library of unplayable games then bro, that'll shut up all the tendies in this thread GOOD

>constantly moving the goal posts
This isn't some game that uses what the most powerful systems these days have to offer. Don't even try to kid yourself in believing this is something that should be pushing the Switch to its limits when there's other games doing far better with what the system gives.

>like a fifth gen console
Nah, Saturn and PS1 would have handled this effortlessly, especially Saturn when it comes to moving sprites around. Switch is simply a gigantic piece of shit that's one of the most clear cultural examples of a company that has built such a cult like following among manchildren and other garbage that literally anything they do will make money for them, no matter how offensively bad and overpriced a product it is.

>If this game was coded with the same level of optimization it would run at 1000+fps.
It's not the 90s anymore, developers don't have to take such drastic measure for basic performance these days.

Ohh you ARE retarded

reminds me of enter the gungeon, but at least with EtG the developers admit to being incompetent.

Hollow knight runs like shit and has blurry ass resolutions and play area. People were even bitching because the devs accidentally put the blurry ass backgrounds on the steam version after the Switch release.

Hollow knight also had slow down on Switch.

those are just poorly optimized ports. Shit like DOOM and Dark Souls play just fine on the switch while also being portable. That's the main selling point of the entire console, that it's a hybrid system, not that it's a graphical "powerhouse" budget PC like the PS4/Xbox

>ANYTHING will run slowly if it's poorly coded

You know they literally don't have the source code to Contra 3, right?

>Hollow knight also had slow down on Switch.
literally when/where?
Holloy knight on switch is a pretty excellent port in my experience.

Optimization is really expensive, fuck the switch.

This is more comparable to Hard Corps, since it's pretty clear that's the style they were emulating. I could see some version of this game running on the genesis no problem, excepting maybe the last level.

Indie devs also tend to be retarded when it comes to optimization, and with Unity there's a lot to fuck up in terms of that.

>Smash port
Man do you retards still exist? I thought every "it's a port"fag choked to death on the bag of dicks they had to eat after the game released.

How does it run like shit/has blurry resolutions? I've been playing the entire game for a week now both in handheld and docked and the game plays as smooth as silk. Literally never once had issues of slow down. If you've got some video evidence of it I'd be a bit more willing to believe I just got lucky

The port of this game to Switch is similar in many ways to the port of SOTN to Saturn. Both consoles are built in a way that simply does not work optimally with the programming of the original versions of the games without extensive modification.

Because I'm having a blast imagining you shit talking the switch to your real life acquaintances using this manchild language you use to shitpost in this thread and seeing the regret in their face of dragging your autist ass around out of pity.

>family
I'm not 12 where I'm forced to go to Christmas dinners like you are still.
>friends
No I don't bring a gaming console to my friends house. We aren't children who hang around each others houses anymore. If we do hang out it's usually somewhere out with our SO's.

I sometimes forget that under age post here.

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other games exist and proves it can handle more with no effort.
They just took a shitty "language" unfit for pro gaming, and probably programmed it with the skill of a toby fox on drugs.
People are lazy in the indie game industry. That's nearly a pre requisite to enter.

>yes I bought a 300 dollar Fischer price toy that's even underpowered two decades ago, WHY are sonytards laughing at me

THINK OF THE POOR CORPORATIONS

The fact that that shit requires a PS4 Pro to run decently is embarrassing. I'll stick to Contra Hard Corps

What does Contra 3 have to do with anything? Also japanese devs throw away the source code after release, they even do it today.

>developer is aware and planning a fix next patch
How many threads will get made about the game after that?

>The switch has enough of both to handle a 2D sprite game with no 3D effects whatsoever

Clearly it doesn't unless it's a bit more simplistic like pic related

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>talking about video games outside of Yea Forums

look at this fucking loser

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>Shit like DOOM and Dark Souls play just fine on the switch while also being portable.
>DOOM

See guys? This is why you NEVER trust a Switch fanboy on this board. They outright lie.

Dark Souls also runs decently with drops, but has awful res scaling at many points + the worst sound compression ever.

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Why do the Nintendies beg for ports if a lot of them are crap?

You mean like Sonic mania?

>Yes I do take pride in spending over $300 on a video game system for grown adults such as myself to play grown adult games
you can't push the manchild image off just on the tendies, snoyfag, especially since the PS4 is now the home for SJW's and Calicucks

Not a switch guy, but are these comparisons docked?

That's my point, they didn't optimize because they thought they didn't need to.

What does that have to do with anything?

You really think the Switch can run Zelda Mario Splatoon Smash etc but can't run a 2D pixelshit game? Please, there's a limit to how much you can shitpost. Let's just be children now.

>he thinks people have actual irl console war discussions

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Sure, I have the entire library because its hacked. Most games look and run like shit.

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a SDK IS the reason it's improper for good gaming. It decides for you how to manage assets and the main loop, and surprise, because it's premade, it's not optimized. The script language itself is garbage and only nodevs gets impressed by this shit. As I said, keep that trash for a proto, then learn to actually code for the real product.

>other games exist and proves it can handle more with no effort.

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It really can't

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

No it isn't, unless you're trying to port Wolfenstein TNO or Doom 16 to a fucking tablet.
>clearly it doesn't because of a bad port
This is where you're at right now.

>inb4 resolution doesn't matter because the Switch's crisp 720p screen "hides" it

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>2019/07/11
nice try bro, come on, at least put some effort into it. Take one now and show your library of shitty games so we can BTFO them tendies forever

Optimization is extremely time consuming and indie devs don't have dedicated programmers for optimization. They mostly just have one main programmer and that's it. If that one programmer works on optimization he can't work on the game for several weeks or even months if it's a bigger game which is unthinkable.

I rather have a good well running game on a good platform instead of a shit game on every platform because the garbage that is the switch sucked up the resources of dev time.
>No it isn't
You have never programmed in your entire life, fuck off.

Ask me how I know you don’t know anything about building software

Nintendies are delusional what else is new

>a SDK IS the reason it's improper for good gaming
You mean this particular one? Possibly, but other game maker games run fine on the switch. The bottom line is that these problems stem from lack of optimization and not from the switch being unable to handle a Genesis game.

If you had left your basement in the last 10 years you'd know gaming is a normie hobby now and that normies talk about videogames.
Just not in the autistic meme spouting EPIC BASED retarded way that you do. It's a good thing you keep that to yourself.

>ALL THESE SNOWFLAKES CAUSES ISSUES FOR THE SWITCHES CPU

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You have no idea what you are talking about.
How big of a difference is arm vs x64? Basically none if you don't write assembly.
You just use your compiler and it will work.
Sometimes you'd have to use two distinct sets of intrinsics, but such a shitty ass indie game probably wouldn't need wide instructions anyway, and furthermore arm and x64 pretty much have the same SIMD instructions anyway (just different names).
The switch graphics API is not considerably different from the one on the ps4. Graphics hardware has standardized essentially (which is the point of vulkan).
This port was just written by an idiot, with no programming skills (like the majority of indie fags)

>It really can't
Then how do games like Smash Ultimate stay at 1080p and never dip framerate at all?

First post best post

During a bunch of fights.

Ill try to find some videos. Even the treehouse preview showed silksong having framedrops.

>You have no idea what you are talking about.
Nice projection.

People got fucking Witcher 3 to run on the Switch, this shit is just dev laziness

Are Sonyfags so bored of the PS4 that they need a boogyman to shit on?

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Are you in high school still?

If you're too ashamed of acting like such a fucking idiot IRL then why even indulge in this low tier bullshit in the first place?

Imagine being this retarded.
HAHAHAHAHA!

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>I don't have a healthy relationship with my family
>I let my SO determine how I spend time with my friends
>Completely ignored the part about travelling
I'm sorry you live in such a toxic environment, user. I hope you enjoy the time you do get to play video games.

>60fps
>standard performance on every other platform
You are dreaming.

So basically, its coding issues that more powerful hardware can just brute-force through. What the fuck are they doing that a 2D arcade game is pushing any remotely modern processor hard enough for these issues?

In writing form so it doesn't miss any detail.

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Seriously who the flying fuck expected THAT game to be on switch? If you predicted that then you must be fucking nostradamus.

>retards pretending people buy the Switch for graphics
>retards pretending the Switch ever even used graphical quality as a selling point for the system
snoyfags sure are desperate to shift some anger onto tendies now that their overlords are too busy sucking journo/LGBT dick
What do you expect from them? Having no E3/literally no games to look forward to this year has set them frothing with rage

No, but you are for sure.
>Trying to defend console war faggotry
Why are you defensive over console war shitposting? It's a hobby for children.

>Then how do games like Smash Ultimate stay at 1080p and never dip framerate at all?

Fighting games don't have that much to render, Epic considered it impossible to do 60fps with UE3 on 360/PS3 until NRS did it with MK9

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i love how n'toddlers take the bait every time. if you were so confident in your console's worth, you'd just ignore these threads. your insecurity drives you here

This happened last gen due to architecture differences between the Xbox 360, PS3, and PC.

Zelda runs like shit.
The rest you mentioned are ports.

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I'm not the person you were replying too. I'm just lmao @ u thinking that people have console war discussions IRL

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Ummm it doesn’t?

>Tablet ARM CPU running off a battery vs a mains powered x86 CPU
imagine my shock

why does it have to be insecurity? I just have nothing better to do at work and bait threads are entertaining.

>muh ports
I know you didn't play a decent game in 9 months, but that's really not the reason to say stupid shit like that in public.

Doubt.

It's more likely that their code is bloated and unoptimized, but better hardware plows through it anyway.

Why would I take another?

Here's some of my games from my HD loader. I reviewed a ton more. MOST run and look like shit.

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>here’s your switch port bro

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A dedicated team for ports made the Witcher 3 switch port and the game looks and runs like shit anyway.

Have you ever written a game engine?
I have, which is why I know you don't know shit.
So stop bullshitting around, pretending this isn't just a sure sign that the dev who did this is a retard or someone who just doesn't care.

Reminder this dude is working with Gamemaker 2 and doesn't have low-level control over any of these things.

>hahaha I was pretending to be retarded
What else is new? Doing it ironically still counts as real retardation. What the fuck are you doing with your life?

Switch CPU can't handle the collision of multiple particles that the game uses for snow effects and fire on the spider boss. Also the bullet casings will need to lose the collision detection like the blob shadows that follow the terrain.
So yes the problem IS the Switch hardware, cope.

>defensive

u r the 1 defending the switch in a thread shitting on the switch

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Optimizing is spending extra engineering time to find tricks to make the same thing run faster on a weaker system

Removing effects is a downgrade

This entire thread is just Nintendo fans using the PS4 as a scapegoat, this has nothing to do with it other than a 2014 console setting a better standard than a brand new Nintendo console.

>I have, which is why I know you don't know shit.
That's very impressive user, please link your game.

patch 1.11 is old as fuck
honestly I was killing time waiting for the final splatfest results

Which is something I never implied. If you knew how to read you'd understand I was implying the OP of the post was that retarded.

I've played plenty of games, just not on my Shitch.

...and that's a good thing.

This. There's actually alot more in common with pc and console hardware nowdays. Localized optimizations to game related instructions but not entirely different to the point where ports are fuck huge software engineering projects.
>t. Final year EE and CS double major

Is this game Sonicmania?

>u r the 1
Your bait is lazy.

Look at

>Because I'm having a blast imagining you shit talking the switch to your real life acquaintances using this manchild language you use to shitpost in this thread and seeing the regret in their face of dragging your autist ass around out of pity.

inb4 that wasn't me. last (You) you're getting from me boy

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Still runs like shit today

They're probably doing something lazy like not pooling their objects.

Indie devs rightfully don't give a shit about optimization because they make a low demanding game to begin with that any modern system should take without problems. It must be really frustrating to port your game to the switch just to see that the weak shit you're throwing at it is running poorly.

And then the hunt begins, what exactly is causing it? It becomes a nightmare of trial and error. Fuck the Switch.

Why would I doxx myself?
Doesn't make sense, right?

The caskets are being added in a patch and the missing layer is a bug, maybe people should watch the video. The only big flaw is the framerate

>hacks make money selling GAMEMAKER shovelware
That's a dead industry alright.

>standard console versus the Switch
????

See

No it doesn't.

Are you retarded? You can literally see it. It doesn't pick up in certain places because of the shit resolution.

Oh I really need to spell it out for you. I didn't realise you really had problems.

I smell a lot of brazilians in this thread.
Yes, it's the smell of feces.

take a shower bing bing smashher

>giving a shit about spelling on a chinese basket weaving anonymous image board forum

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no it doesn't

>I-it’s not the h-hardware it’s the s-stupid devs

Yet Nintendo releases and profits off the broken downgrades anyway. Really makes me think.

Maybe think about it before releasing on a processor that barely does 1Ghz?
It still is enough for plenty of interactions, if you just use the processors capabilities, aka SIMD and multiple cores.
But indie devs are too lazy to do this.

>I was merely pretending

>471180002
Low quality bait. "X" and "Pro" editions aren't $300 hardware.

This is gamemaker? That makes sense. The tools for memory management best practices are lacking there.

It's almost certainly stupid devs if the Neo Geo was doing arcade perfect 2d 30 years ago.

>giving a shit what system others buy on a drug trading russian online bulletin.
Too easy.

Yes it does.

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Making good use of multiple cores is among the hardest things when optimizing. I hate people like you that are lazy as fuck, have no skills and smoke crack all day but still criticize people for being lazy when they don't execute challenging tasks.

>He still can't fucking read
Jesus man are you ok? Did you drop out after 5th grade?

if you buy a nintnedo console to play anything but their own games you're retarded, multiplats have been better on every other console since the 2000s
that said Yea Forumsitendo really will defend anything

>another half-assed port

wow i wonder why their games just dont sell

>Neo Geo was doing arcade perfect 2d
because the arcade and the console were the same system, it helps.

lrn2purefunction

>I never wanted good graphics anyway ;P
I know the word gets tossed around a lot but this is literal coping.

I have to agree with , bump the resolution and it'd look objectively better without these stock UE4 effects clashing with the art direction.

>Shitch
who rubbed the lamp of that faggot sex genie again?

>at work

kino bait.

From an art perspective both of those look like ass

I have written my own game engine though.
I know that using multiple cores properly is tough, but it's not impossible and there are low hanging fruit.
A prime example would be the bullet shells (and particles in general), of which the computation is effortlessly parallelizable.
If you don't even do that, you just suck honestly.

>more literally who blaming for people having any negative remarks towards Nintendo
This is how retards operate.

Okay big boy

I know this is a bait thread, but I think this is a testament to not using GameMaker to develop your indie game

yea, at 900p

Shit thread

I can almost guarantee they aren't pooling the particles because its game maker, and the concept never occurred to them

At least it can run free expression.

that honestly looked like Killzone on the PS2

Indie games are notoriously unoptimized.

You look into some fictional dream world while I see the real world. It doesn't matter that the programmer lacked the skills. He made his megadrive homage video game that runs perfectly on all systems except for the weak as fuck switch.

For the programmer to learn the skills for proper optimization would have taken weeks if not months. Apparently the team wants to optimize the game starting now since now they have the time it requires but it was unthinkable to optimize it in dev time because the switch is surprisingly weak and can't handle the most fundamental shit.

For a dev team to believe the switch can handle their 2D hard corps clone without bonus optimization was an honest expectation.

>it's bait... devs are just lazy...

Nah it uses resolution scaling sliding between 1080p and 4k

This is just a bad port because developer is lazy or incompetent

Many games run 60FPS locked on Switch

Looks like it's really poorly optimized. Let me guess, it's a 40 gb download too?

That speaks more of the devs than anything.
Better hardware ruined game development because optimisation has become a forgotten art knocked aside by "lmao dude just throw resources at it and it'll brute force through on modern machines anyway, then blame the platform if it doesn't".

Nintenbros...

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>We aren't children who hang around each others houses anymore. If we do hang out it's usually somewhere out with our SO's.
>Doesn't do both.

many more dont

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I have a Wii U devkit, don't judge me.
And I'm pretty sure those devs are just bad or didn't give a fuck to make a decent port, because this should even run at stable 60 fps with the effects from OP's post The shadow blob and bullet particles are extremely undemanding.
As for the background, you should also be able to work around fillrate issues if that's even their problem here.
They seemingly just shat this game together, slapped their backs and told themselves "we made it".

>graphics and framerate only matter when you're comparing PS4 to Switch, not PS4 to PC
You so(n)yfags are pathetic

>basement dweller calls dev team of 3 people lazy and incompetent
Never fails.

Se they don't have to but they should if they want people to buy their game.

>For the programmer to learn the skills for proper optimization would have taken weeks if not months.
Watch out, we've got a real programmer here

Consider the fact the Wii U had issues with fast racing neo. Now look at the switch version.

>For a dev team to believe the switch can handle their 2D hard corps clone without bonus optimization was an honest expectation.
It is only an honest expectation when you have no idea about what you are doing.
The thing is, if they knew what they were doing, then there would never have been a need to optimize it for the switch, since it would run fine from the get-go.
I just have the feeling you are one of the devs yourself, and try to justify this lazy ass port.
But the thing is, its not the switchs fault. It's plenty powerful for what it is.
It's the fault of the devs. The kind of people that can only create indie pixel shitters, which don't even run properly on a fucking multi-core 1Ghz machine.

Yes comparing consoles against each other is the correct thing to do. Obviously the PC is the best and if there's a multiplat game that's where you play it.

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This

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>early 2000s
>nintendo always has weak hardware because they focus on their own IPs that have unanimated sprites or low-poly mario models
>2019
>Nintendo Switch is on par with the bare minimum pc specs to run the witcher 3
>small devs are more incompetent than they were 10 years ago

Hollow knight runs perfectly on switch

Theres plenty of ports that run awful but you had to pick the one that runs like butter

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wonder why they didn'T just bake the shadows in like some other shadows from lower plants on the switch screenshot already seem to be.

the arrest yourself is real

That's pathetic

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there is another example of the Switch being unable to render reflections, and there is a part of the game that uses reflections as a sort of puzzle solving, and the devs had to change it for the switch version

Meanwhile on PS1

PFFTTTTTTTTTTT AHAHAHA THE STATE OF NINTENDO SHITCH

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Very original to call that doesn't agree with you the dev. I'm just not retarded like you guys and realize the reality that of all platforms the developed for the switch was by far the weakest and it was also an afterthought and not the leading dev platform so of course they never programmed with the switch in mind.

oh this is it lol

When a product can fool its installbase about what it can and can't do, you have one of the most basic chemistries for market demand!

>PS1 looks better than Switch

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The minimum requirements for PC are parts that are over 10 years old. But the Switch can't run it, wew

>western developers make lazy ports

whoa

Are you trying to prove his point?
Audio is butchered to hell to save on cartridge costs.
Only a deaf and blind bing bing would find that acceptable.

Blazing chrome PC system requirements.

OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 or AMD Phenom II X2 550
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: GeForce 9600 GT or Radeon HD 3870
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 200 MB available space

Katana zero recommend system requirements

CPU: Intel Core i3-3240 (2 * 3400) or equivalent
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 2 GB
OS: Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10 x64
VIDEO CARD: GeForce 8800 GTS (512 MB)
PIXEL SHADER: 4.0
VERTEX SHADER: 4.0
FREE DISK SPACE: 200 MB
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 512 MB

>But it's the switch's fault

CDPR isn't western

>reddit buzzwords
nope

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Still can't believe this version sold the most. Switch owners must have no standards.

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Poland isnt considered western?

Switch owners are desperate for games to reduce their sense of buyer's remorse.

>Any omega farce game

You want me to post dynasty warriors 9?

are you sure it isn't because the other platforms dont buy actual video games

It's not. It's Eastern Europe. :)

I see what you did there.

8/10 bait
Turkey is where EAST meets WEST. Greece is usually considered the founding point for Western culture.

>Base game takes 30GB+tip to install
>Heavy reliance on cinematic postprocessing
>Uncompressed and unoptimized schlock
>"Guys, gaming is getting more advanced! Let's shell out for next year's 2TB model!!"
Consolefags are retarded; Nintendo is the lesser evil here.

>Goalposts: moved
You got absolutely destroyed, just take the L my nigga
Shitch is a joke lmfao

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god the Switch is such a piece of shit
>Gamers don't want good graphics, they want good games!
shut the fuck up Reggie, gamers want both

I dunno dude you're kinda splitting hairs here. Besides are you implying that CDPR can't make a good port?

>ITT children arguing over which toy they have is better
How many of you fags in here are even over 14, let alone old enough to post here.

Nah people in here are just laughing at how ugly games look on the Switch. It's funny m8

No, I just get triggered when people call Axis aligned countries "3rd world," or say an unaligned country like Brazil is "2nd world."
Someone has to keep up with facts before sentimentally driven popular culture washes away all reason.

OK but the Switch can run Mario Odyssey and (another 2D game but with better graphics and animations) Cuphead
So there's literally zero way this is not the developer's fault, it probably runs inexplicably shit on older PCs too.

>Ctrl + F
>Shitch
>5 hits
it's a blunderfag thread alright

You first.

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No one is arguing which "toy" is better, PC is obviously best. EVeryone is just laughing at how shit a 2017 console is.

>buying multiplats in the first place

Is Central Europe considered Western?

is it worth to buy switch just for mario maker... i really want to play it but dont want to throw 370 at it lol.

Hollow Knight and Cuphead are both far more demanding then OP's game and they both run perfectly on Switch.

Did Bloodstanined ever get patched or is that still fucky as well?

Shitch is a good name for it. I just started using it because it makes sense.

Imagine buying a 2017 console weaker than the fucking PS3

Well Nintendogs don't even have to imagine LMFAO

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>bad mouthing nintendo on Yea Forums

it's like you guys want to be banned

whatever you say, Eric

This. The only games worth buying on Nintendo systems always have been and always will be first and third-party exclusives.

of course not

imagine buying western video games

Still fucky but apparently being worked on
That I could actually give OP if he started the thread with it, but instead he decided to be dumb

>Central Europe
>has democratic republics
>uses Saxon characters
>is it western???

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I don't have to imagine because I'm not a delusional weeb

I mean, do you also want to play Smash, BoTW, MK8, etc

Wew, add more "ghosts" to the pile of insecure Switchlets.

>The only games worth buying on console always have been and always will be first and third-party exclusives.
fixed

See, I'd agree had Nintendo not allowed publishers to demand installs on SD and started charging for online while touting fucking handheld Skyrim, they're no better.

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I don't think the sex genie was ever banned. unmasked, sure, but banned? don't think so.

But its use case isn’t even to play powerful multiplats. Everyone started off shitposting about blazing chrome, but then it moved to doom and wolfenstein (meme proof of concept ports). I play about 80-90% of games on PC + consoles a gen older since I usually buy them for exclusives after the newest iterations have been released. PC + switch for most indies (stardew valley, crawl, gungeon, etc), ports of PS2 games (FFXII on switch is unironically kino imo), and exclusives + 3DS for my backlog. I obsess over framerate. Switch is fine.

b-but I can play it on the g-go!

>he unironically buys western video games

of course you're not delusional

you're just stupid

It's a shitty port, it's just the Switch CPU that it's too under powered to handle the particle system in some scenes.
Solution?
Remove the particles for sprites.

>w...w...we don't even want games that look good so it's justified for me to pay 300 dollars for 18th century technology that I can play "press forward to win" games for toddlers on

>DS vs PSP
>Wii vs PS3/Xbox360
>Wii U vs PS4/XboxOne
>Switch vs PS4 Pro/XboxOneX
>??? vs PS5/Scarlett

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You also have sys-clk, which lets you configure game-specific CPU, GPU and memory speeds (for handheld, docked or charging), that activate automatically when you start the game.

It depends on how much you like 2D Mario. I’ve had a blast with it in between work since our big project/paper has hit the phase where we’re waiting for conference acceptances

>I obsess over framerate. Switch is fine.
Clearly not when most games run like shit.

Out of curiosity why do you think that only western developers can't make a port of a video game?

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>friends
>IRL

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you are delusional and thus your opinions on who is / isn't stupid are based on these delusions and are worth nothing, just like your life

The attach rate for Playstation and Xbox users has always been pretty low actually.
They tend to get maybe 1-2 new games a year and they're usually something like GTA, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, FIFA, Madden, or some kind of DLC for those games. They don't have big external hard drives and shit anyway and don't have the space for lots of random games.

I hate all of you that are so fucking computer illiterate yet still like to act as if your shitty opinion matters. The game is poorly optimized and instead of making a proper port for a different architecture they just took out effects to lighten the load. Shut the fuck up and stop acting as if the switch is some kind of ancient console that can't run anything when so many more graphically intense games run just fine because more experienced devs know how to actually optimize for the system.

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>he buys western video games

I mean aside from the more demanding titles, not really? I played into the breach on switch and didn’t notice anything. Aside from the plaza in bayo 2, I didn’t notice a drop for like 2-3 seconds in more than like once every other boss fight

m8, some people do travel a lot

I could never own a desktop or a PS4 because I live in two different cities at once, half the week at one place and half at another. Do you expect me to carry a PS4 with me? I'd be only limiting myself to one location.

Moreover, I travel abroad a lot. For example, I live in Europe and last month I had to go to California for a week for work. It's nice to play your switch at the end of the day in your hotel room.

You also need an online subscription... so 390. It's never worth it for one game. If you're really into level building look into MFGG and other fangame sites.

give me an example of a graphically intense switch game

gamingbolt.com/ps4-software-attach-ratio-is-nearly-10-which-is-historically-high

PS4 attach rate is "historically high", actually.

>NOOOOOO DELETE THIS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HATE SONY HERE AAAAAAAAAAAA

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I hate how he looks like he is made of clay in the switch port

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Will the Switch ever be able to compete with Genesis?

watch him post a BOTW webm, lmao

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It Nintenwon't.

My friends and I are in our 20s. Two of us are in a PhD program and the other 3 are in industry. You’re telling me you guys still don’t play video games together but now with alcohol? You sound lame. There will always be time to play games with your friends even after you guys hang out and do more “sophisticated” activities together.

We don't appreciate facts around here, especially when they don't fit our bias.

Well in your rare case that's a good reason to own one. Personally I would get a high end laptop in your case but to each their own.

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This board was all over how he looked in the Switch port. Anons claimed he looked better without the fur. "They fixed him" a lot even said.

I like that better than the shitty dry fur effect. Why are hacks still going for this shit when it never worked anyway?

ooo absolutely REKT
got 'im!

I hope so. I really hope people don't own a switch for BOTW since it runs and looks infinitely better on the PC

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>Well-done
>Rare

Imagine playing PS3 in bed or on the toilet. That's the gimmick you're sacrificing performance for.

>I like that better than the shitty dry fur effect. Why are hacks still going for this shit when it never worked anyway?
your shitty taste is discarded

>Developer
>Omega force

Nice.

...

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>stop acting as if the switch is some kind of ancient console
It's not, and that only makes this situation even more embarrassing.

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Why would I want to watch Ellen Page taking a dump while taking a dump?

It looks like fucking paper, you're delusional.

>Left: Soul
>Right: Soulless

>heavy dithering
I honestly like the implementation of screen-door transparency in SMO, it's kinda funky looking. Plus standard alpha blending can be such a pain in the ass to work with.

>high end laptop
You mean a bulky, insanely heavy laptop that will get smoked by PC tower prices and hardware components with no way to switch components? You mean laptops that throttle ridiculously for cooling promises? You mean monsters that sound that sound like airplane is taking off again mid flight? I’d recommend a 3DS. Your idea is straight up brain dead. “”””””””gaming laptops”””””””” are always a bad buy
>it’s bulky, so you can play your virgin DEMANDING GAMES like far cry and running benchmarks on the go, and when your family comes over, you can just lug it into the living room bro
Not even saying the switch is better, but fuck off kiddie

if you care about performance why would you buy a console in the first place?

>It looks like fucking paper, you're delusional.
Have you never seen paper before? cause thats not what paper looks like

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it's not that rare of a case

This is also common for university students, for example, who often also live in two places at once. And then you have actual kids and teens who do like to play at each other's places.

You guys need to stop assuming switch owners are all idiots blinded by nostalgia googles and nintendo-mania. I pondered between buying a PS4 and a Switch, and I bought the switch mostly because of portability. I thought about buying a PS4 even after I bought the Switch but the fact it'd be stuck in one place was a huge no-no.

Bulky laptops are utter shit.

nobody on Yea Forums cares about labo lmao

Yea thanks for confirming that you know nothing about modern age laptops and still clinging to the old memes of heating issues

Dithering always looks terrible, I don't know why the fuck Japanese devs love using it so much. Even their best looking games are tainted with it, like in RE Engine

i remember when labo was supposed to fail

and then they made like 5 or 6 of them

ark is absolute trash on all platforms

>it's made in game maker
Jesus no surprise it runs like absolute garbage. Don't fall for the "quick and easy" meme.

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I mean I wouldn't use Ark as an example for anything, the game barely fucking functions regardless of platform, it's a disaster of a game.

Genesis had twice as much CPU speed as the SNES, so a game like that would probably choke on the SNES, yes.

>I don't give a fuck about your personal bias
>Starts the argument in the first place
Its a shit game no matter how hard you try to spin it. Its okay to admit you wasted money on a product you expected to be better you know.

Left is unironically better, you can tell what shit is. Beyond performance downgrades this looks like an artstyle change, which is weird.

>not owning a beefy PC, PS4 pro and Switch

imagine having some sort of blind loyalty for companies that don't give two shits about you

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>>Hollow Knight and Cuphead are both far more demanding then OP's game and they both run perfectly on Switch
They're also made in Unity

Exactly, Nintendo is always capitalizing on a niche, so if you're not into that then no reason not to just go PC.

literally my router has more cpu power than this piece of fucking chink ware kiddy weeb trash console

Then don't buy it, you fucking idiot.

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when every port on the system is garbage, yes, it's the hardware's fault.

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yes. i communicate entirely in Yea Forums memes irl. my voice, instead of creating sound, manifests pictures of wojak.

He's just laughing at it

those are completely different tree models, holy fuck

But it's perfect for the Switch!

First frame drops on fucking Sonic Mania and now this! Holy shit

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>it's another "nintendofag tries to ride pc's coattails when called out" episode

looks like the 3ds version

cope

>Games run like and look like shit but are not censored
Vs.
>Games look a little better but a are censored to hell and back

tough call

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since when did Crash become a fucking lamp

That game is literally on Flash, remeber how first binding of isaac run on PC? That same Flash

>Then don't port it to said hardware if you can't get it running proper.
and when they don't, you fags start screeching that "THIRD PARTIES HATE NINTENDO" instead.

You're retarded. It's just the shitch can't handle really basic shit like box 2D physics well.

both of them have horrible lighting but for different reasons

of course they hate nintendo

they have no hope to compete with the quality of nintendo software

I know shitty indie devs who suck at coding are a good excuse to shit post the admittedly less than up to date hardware of the switch, but still in some cases the bad performance of a game is just the fault of these shitty devs

Just to give you guys an idea of how shitty GMS is

>made a dumb sonic fangame with a friend like a decade ago in GM7
>it wasn't optimized at all but still ran at 60fps on my old shitty computer
>recently he found it again and ported it over to gms out of curiosity's sake
>it ran at 12fps on my new gaming pc that can run gtav on high settings just fine
>it runs at 1-2fps on friend's phone and ends up crashing

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what they've likely done is remade the game in some kind of pre-made engine like unity without doing some the required optimizations for rendering numerous sprites at the same time. for some reason, unity's 2D sprite stuff runs really badly out of the box, rendering something like 100 sprite gameobjects on the screen at the same time takes my framerate from 1000 to 60. you essentially have to do all sorts of weird hacks to render tons of sprites at the same time without a big performance loss.

if this shit runs on laptops with low CPU & RAM usage then the problem is clearly the shitch.

>low-IQ brainlet can't into PC
Enjoy your multiplats and timed exclusives, consolefaggot.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO! THIS IS HORRIBLE NINTENBROS! WHAT HAPPENED?????

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and yet it was nintendo who put arbitrary limits on how many games third-parties could release on their systems per year back in the old days because they were afraid of competition.

thanks for giving us an idea of how shit your friend is a converting code. GMS is an entirely different engine.

>back in the old days

so?

in other words, back when nintendo still had meaningful third party support.

desu honest the only flaw in that version is the piss ass audio, fucking disgusting quality. But overall it was faithful, textures were the best of it.

More like Indie Game Programmers should not be allowed to make games.

Yeah no idiot. There's no way a Mega Drive would ever be able to handle this you zoomer piece of shit.
heck I doubt even the Neo Geo could handle this.

and it runs at half the framerate of every other current gen version LMAO

>meaningful third party support

who needs that gay shit? by all means, name those great modern third party games

Imagine being a consolebabby where you all compete on who has the least amount of downgrades

switch is weak as fuck but there's no fucking excuse for this kind of performance. something like metal slug 1 ran on a playstation that had a cpu speed of 33.7 MHz. the switch has 4 cores with the speed of 1GHz. what probably happened was that the devs were making the game for modern PCs and real consoles, so they never encountered these performance issues during development, so when it came time to make a switch port they just scrapped some features to get the framerate run properly. this kind of game should run at an absurdly high framerate so the devs are likely just incompetent or didn't care enough to optimize.

That is nothing out of ordinary for Neo Geo given proper coding, don't talk out of your ass.

My friend literally programs for his job and has worked with Game Maker for a decade. I hate to sound smug but he probably knows his shit better than you.

GMS is hardly "entirely different" anyway. In some regards it is, but most old GM7/8 projects can be ported just fine.

>who needs that gay shit?
switchfags do, because nintendo only gives them full-price wii u ports, and they can't stop begging for ports of every third-party game in existence.

Found your problem.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thais_Weiller

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One thing I will say is some of gamemakers modules are complete shit. take their html5 module for instance. poorly optimized & right now every single GMS html5 game that uses gamepads is completely broken. turns out this is because the module was so sloppily coded it had a missing semicolon. they were selling it for years like this until a chrome update that made code reading stricter revealed the flaw.

While it's not the sole reason, one part of the problem is that Unity doesn't have a 2D mode. It has a "flat 3D models with the sprites as a texture on the side facing the player's view" mode. Godot is the only engine off the top of my head that has a proper 2D display system.

I don't know, user, you're trying hard to sell this thing.

arrest yourself.

Yeah but see you're actually retarded

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Jesus Christ what

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no your friends just a retard and obviously fucked up converting the collision loops. I programmed 2D sonic physics in GMS. it works fine. you were likely using that common "sonic worlds" engine approach that moves the player into the ground at their angle then back out again with way too many collision checks in the loop.

i just looked it up and it turns out they made this game in gamemaker, which explains a lot. i don't think it means that gamemaker itself is bad, but it's pretty clear that these devs are new to game dev. i guess they didn't pay that much attention to performance. i'm personally autistic about framerate so i'd be embarrassed to attach my name to a pixelshit platformer that runs at 45 FPS in 2019

not the same user but he speaks the truth

sometimes being a good coder can't make up for the engine's issues - and this tends to be a recurring problem with gamemaker

Christ

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>The way the rat literally crosses the barrier into the switch version and then immediately NOPED the fuck out of there

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Well yeah no shit the code was unoptimized, it was made ages ago. Still doesn't change the fact that it ran super smoothly on a shittier PC when made in GM7, so why can't GMS do it now?

>game maker 2
>language
Nigga stop. Also while unity / UE might be wasteful in RAM even for 2d (haven't checked that personally), it's still optimized as fuck and only need to render few quads with small textures, so there's no excuse for it to be slow. Even with lighting. Sure it won't be as fast as pure 2d with grid based culling but still shouldn't be slow.

this but unironically. That shill can fuck off of my Yea Forums

because it's a different engine so approaches used in GM7 are not necessarily viable in GMS when it has other functions & methods you should be using instead because code needs to be tailored to the engine.

GM7 was my introduction into game dev, and looking back I'm glad I moved onto building my own engine early. When you don't have control over how or when assets are loaded, it gets very difficult to optimize.

>methods
GMS doesn't use methods, it's not OOP

kek nice

Blazing Chrome, just saw the Digital Foundry video, and the port isn't even close as bad as OP makes it seems. Three sections on the whole game and one specific effect, had problems, and all of them are going to be patched.

Heck, one of the patches, if it works as intended, will make a boss battle look better on the Switch even.

Does that matter? If it runs well on a shit PC why can't it run on a top-of-the-line one? Please explain.

PS1 looks better than the remasters in general.
N-Sane Trilogy is soulless trash.

>look up game size
>88mbs
yeah this is definitely a shoddy port job

I've never seen anything this intensive on the Neo Geo.
Way too many animations and scaling and shit. The game probably is bigger in size than any Neo Geo Cart out there.

Because the game that ran well on GM7 on a shit PC is a completely different game than the one ported to GMS.
Running the profiler would be enough to deduce the issue causing the game to run horribly but I that's outside your expertise since I'm betting you were a couple of kids with no knowledge of GML and probably just downloaded a sonic engine someone else made.

Also forgot...you can forget about this running at 60fps on a Neo Geo.
Even the Metal Slug games ran at 30fps on Neo Geo Hardware and those games weren't as intense as this imo.

If you weren't such a cocksucking millennial then devs wouldn't be making shitty games.

88mbs sounds about right if they compressed the music.
A lot of old games were compressed to fit in cartridges(for example Secret of Evermore uncompressed was 70 to 80 mbit according to the creators and they had to compress it down to 24 mbit)