Challenges high king to fair combat

>At Helgen, they said you shouted the King to death? "Not entirely true, though not entirely false either. Any Nord can learn the Way of the Voice by studying with the Greybeards, given enough ambition and dedication. My shouting Torygg to the ground proved he had neither. However, it was my sword piercing his heart that killed him."

The empire would've chimped out either way Tullius has no respect for nord traditions

Skyrim belongs to the nords

The player literally doesn't even see Torygg until he's in Sovengarde and he doesn't talk to you enough so you can form an opinion on him. Also according to Nord legends only true Nords make it there.
Take that for what you will.

It belonged to the Snow Elves until they got genocided the fuck out of their own home.

The equivalent is more like challenging someone to a duel, with the person being challenged assuming swords when it's actually anything goes.
Rather than just shoot the challenged person dead, the challenger kneecaps them before killing them.

>Toryggs advisors don't want him to duel Ulfric because they know he's actually a competent fighter even without knowing he has the voice
>every recollection of the event is Torygg barely got out of his chair before being shouted down and executed
Funny how nords, a race always harping on about pride and honour, found that not allowing a King a chance in a duel was dishonest.

They would still exist if not for the Dwemer, Nords just fought them in combat and drove them underground after they attacked Saarthal first.

Ulfric may have killed him by the blade but he is still a thalmor plant and anyone who actually supported the stormcloaks have doomed both skyrim and the empire

no shit despite being an Imperial puppet he woke the fuck up when Ulfric challenged him to the duel and accepted it knowing he's outclassed by the Great War veteran. He could have just cried for his guards to arrest the rogue Jarl and go full Imperial puppet since Ulfric was alone, but he chose the true Nord way and died like one.

No, the only people who can use the voice are the grey beards, ulfric underwent the training pretending he wanted to become a greybeard, and then the second they taught him something useful he fled. For a man who claims to be about upholding the traditions of skyrim he undermined one of its most sacred traditions in a vain power grab. It was very clearly never about skyrim, it was always about ulfric.

For the past two millennium, the thu'um is ruled by the Way of the Voice. Only Dragonborn are allowed to use it as a weapon. This is the most ancient Nord tradition in practice at the time. Just the act of visiting the steps to High Hrothgar is a holy pilgrimage. Actually being accepted as an apprentice, being taught the thu'um, and then blaspheming the Divines by using it as a weapon is nigh unthinkable.

He left because the great war started and he wanted to defend human lands from the thalmor using his powers, if that didn't happen he may have stayed in high hrothgar.

He's the Thalmor's fuckpuppet.

And he was an abysmal failure in the Great War. He was captured almost immediately by the Thalmor and broke under interrogation. They only let him go after the Great War as a sleeper agent to disrupt the Empire from within.

Ulfric is the single greatest foe to any true Nord.

I enjoy how most of his supporters even shit on him.
Kind of dropped the ball with it ultimately leading to only being able to support him even when they spend so much time setting up how shit he is to the core.

Memes aside, what does Yea Forums think the cannon civil war ending is?

Personally I think the Dragonborn completes the main quest, does the peace summit at High Hrothgar but, after having defeated Aldiun,. side with the empire due to the documents on Ulfric found within the Thalmor Embassy.

Is he really a puppet for thalmor

I just started playing Skyrim for the first time on Switch.
Any helpful tips that makes my character stupid OP

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Enchanting and Smithing are the keys to invincibility.

>don't care much for politics
>run across a Stormcuck camp and try my Kamehameha on them
>they die like bitches
>leave Whiterun in full demonic armor and build a manor innawoods
>occasionally visit hogwarts and sit in the tower pretending to work
>have a secret basement full of harvested souls
In retrospect Skyrim was an unintentionally fun experience.

Warrior = Smithing
Rogue = Sneak
Mage = Enchanting

Max out Enchanting and smithing as soon as possible and the game is on easy street.
To level smiting create as much jewellery as possible, use iron + the transmutation spell (which can be found in Halted Stream Camp, just north or Whiterun) and Kolsgerr mine (go to the mine on the left hand side when walking up to Markarth from the main road to get the quest) as your supplies of gold to craft it. Always make the most expensive items you can, this will level smithing the fastest. Also when you unlock the Dwarven smithing perk make bows, they are cheap to make but will level it quickly.
You can then enchant the items you craft, levelling your enchanting spell and sell what you make and you'll have more money than you know what to do with.
At some point you'll be able to enchant gear to improve your smithing to create stupid powerful items or if you feel like going through the effert you can also level alchemy and go through a loop of using Potions that fortify enchanting to create gear the fortifies alchemy and then creating new potions then new enchanting gear
until you can create enchantments so powerful you can fortify your smithing and enchantments on items but like 10,000%

Also, I forgot to mention, if you're playing as a mage you can enchant items that reduce spell cost but over 100% eventually so they cost nothing.

Basically just remember that you can always craft gear 10x as powerful as the cool shit you'll find

>using it as a weapon is nigh unthinkable.
>its okay when the dragonborn does it

cuck

yes, that is correct.

wrong, you're confusing the greybeard's personal code with that of nords in general.

The way of the voice makes exceptions for the Dragonborn's actions, you are told this by the Greybeards

Wrong. Jurgen Windcaller challenged all Nordic masters of the thu'um to combat at once. When he won, his Way of the Voice became the Nordic way for using the Voice.

>enchant amulet, ring, helmet and gloves with fortify alchemy
>steal every salt pile and fish from the riften lakeport outside riften
>equip all the enchanted gear
>make a potion of fortify restoration with Abecean Longfin, Cyrodilic Spadetail and Salt Pile
>unequip all enchanted gear
>equip it again (it have a bigger number)
>repeat last 3 steps untill you get a retarded number
>just be carefull the number to not be too retarded because it will crash the game
>drink it
>make a fortify enchanting potion
>enchant someting with fortify health
>enchant any weapon preferably the fork or a wooden sword with fire damage
>you are now literally a unkillable god of destruction wielding the fork of death

>dude its ok because your a gary stu and it makes for EPIC GAMEPLAY

fuck off

>pretending to be retarded faggot
Literally kill yourself

Ulfric was probably just an 18 year old kid at the time you can't blame him for wanting something more exciting than meditating all day. He's also not a sleeper agent but an unknown asset, they don't want him to win any more than the empire and he wants Elenwen thrown out of the peace council.

You sound like an ape

>be son of a jarl
>take on one of the most sacred nord professions and join the greybeards
>dishonor family, greybeards and all nords by quitting
>profane thousands of years of nord tradition and use thu'um as a weapon
>join war intending to use voice as a weapon
>forget that the reason its not used as a weapon anymore is the gods punish those that do
>immediately get captured during war by elves
>become an elven puppet, everything you ever hated
>learn no lessons
>go back to skyrim and become responsible for the single greatest loss of nord lives in history
>only successful military campaign was murdering nord women and children in markarth

Ulfric, not even once.

He didn't serve the interest of the Nordic people.

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Nords can shout if they are strong enough and have the will to learn basic shouts. The Nord priests are the same there's nothing special about them.

The Way of the Voice is priestcuck nonsense it's just that a code for the priests who worship the voice.

There's nothing wrong with Ulfric using the voice to break the gates of Solitude and challenge the weak Torygg it's all according to tradition.
Ancient Nord warlord used to do this all the time.

Puppet is not really the right word but his actions have unintentionally benefited the thalmor

Fucking this
/Thread

Also
>Talks down on the dragon born despite him being the sole reason for his civil war victory
>"thanks doggie, you can go now thehe"
>talks le fair election game yet very well knows he's extortion his way to skyrims throne
>another profanation of nord tradition

I swear if Bethcucksda wouldve made him kill Elisif Id install a mod just to murder that fucker

>the reason it's not used as a weapon anymore is the gods punish those that do

No. The reason it's not used anymore because of its inability to secure victory despite being a "powerful weapon".

Jurgen Windcaller was so disturbed by this fact and the failure of the Old Tongues at the Battle of Red Mountain that he meditated for seven years "how Strong Voices could fail" and came to the conclusion that the thu'um should only be used in times of need.

What do you mean he talks down to the Dragonborn? He praises you in front of all the men after the battle while Tullius doesn't say anything.

10 years later and idiots still think that "asset" status as written in the Thalmor documents means that he is actively working for the Thalmor.

Ulfric is correct in his actions I don't give a shit about your personal feelings about the man. He believes that a restored Skyrim under his rule as High King can stand on it's own against all the powers in Tamriel. He's probably correct about that because the Nords have a history of incredible heroes and winning impossible wars like the Dragon War for example.

>be a wizard
>knight challenges you to duel
>not allowed to use magic
>lose
>get called incel loser and decapitated
based fair fighter

Nah bro
His tone is kinda demeaning and arrogant
IDK didn't play the English version tough

Tullius IS even more insufferable and doesn't respect nord that's why i didn't join that old boomer faggot as a Nord playthrough larp

>Ulfric is a Thalmor agent/puppet
Anyone who agrees with this is a moron with poor reading comprehension. Ulfric does not coordinate with the Thalmor, his actions are unintentionally beneficial to them.

Don't forget

>got captured the moment tullius steps in

I honestly don't understand why anybody would side with a dude that got captured twice by his hated enemies.

Stormcloaks are obviously meant to be The Good Guys, so probably them if they don't want the bigger majority of their normie fanbase to get butthurt that their choice didn't count

Impericucks are illiterate ESL shitskins.

Nah the empire is 100% fucking gone in the next game

>attack humans first
>get shit shoved in epic style
>mer brethren blind your people and make them slaves
>blame humans
Literal nigger tier thinking

>become an elven puppet, everything you ever hated
Oh boy, this age old retarded point born from children who don't understand military strategy or dossiers.

Ulfric is considered an "asset" because he distracts the Empire. His intentions and goals are irrelevant to the Thalmor, because if they keep the civil war brewing for as long as possible, it keeps both the locals of Skyrim and the Imperials from focusing on the Aldmeri Dominion. The Dragonborn siding with either faction ruins the plans of the Thalmor and puts them in a dire place because the DB is the most OP motherfucker since the Hero of Kvatch.

>Prove Nords are cucked
>By killing the king and playing into the hands of the people who are cucking the Nords
Probably not the smartest way to do it

I was always mad if couldn't make the empress my wife and genocide the Nordic rebellion.
Seems like the perfect setup.

Logically the stormcloak rebellion has to lose, since ulfric dies in one of the endings they can't ever confirm he's alive again since that would invalidate one whole half of the questline, with the empire it just means tullius dies but he's just a cog in the machine and can be replaced, ulfric dying is kind of the end of his rebellion.

>He doesn't use 1263216% paralysing venom to make the knight a stabbing doll

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>with the empire it just means tullius dies but he's just a cog in the machine and can be replaced
Yeah, you forgot about the Emperor getting killed by the Dark Brotherhood.

>be high king
>get challenged by Jarl you respect
>he blasts you before you even stand up with some mythical power nobody has ever heard of outside of legend
>stabs you while you're on the ground defeated
A fair fight would specify it. If Ulfric was the honourable nord he says he is he would have either beat Torygg with a sword (which everybody knew he could do, which is why Torygg's court tried stopping Ulfric from challenging him) or ask if blowing him away with a shout is fair play.

>Logically the stormcloak rebellion has to lose
Have you been keeping up with TES lore at all? The Empire has been crumbling since Morrowind. It lost the Dragon lineage in Oblivion. Between Oblivion and Skyrim it lost Hammerfell and Black Marsh as allies, and Skyrim is in the midst of seperation. The Stormcloaks winning or doing enough damage to ruin the Empire is going to be canon.

>mythical power nobody has ever heard of outside of legend
Based lorelet

>it lost Hammerfell and Black Marsh as allies
It also lost Elsweyr and Valenwood to the Aldmeri Dominion. They also lost Morrowind due to Red Year. And once they lose Skyrim they will lose High Rock because of the borders.

Empire is gone.

And a new emperor will take his place

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that Ulfric is effectively dead with the way they handle canon, the last thing they want to do is invalidate player choices since he dies in the imperial half of the questline, so that means they either won't acknowledge him or they will say that he died, whether that's during the civil war or after he won, it will be left open

>And a new emperor will take his place
I'm glad you realize just how fucking useless the Mede emperor line is. But it's pity you're a lorelet to forget the point of the 3rd empire emperors in the first place.

Why do people respond to me like you who haven't bothered reading the lore?

Here's what happened.

>Dragons torment and feed on humanity
>Kyne (or possibly Akatosh, depending on the script) takes pity on humanity and has Paarthurnax teach them the thu'um
>humanity fights back and defeats the dragons, sending Alduin through time
>humanity continues to use the thu'um, despite it only being intended as a weapon against the dragons
>Nords fight the War of Succession against the Chimer, should be an easy win with the voice
>Nords get utterly BTFO'd and thrown out of Morrowind, Nordic armies almost entirely wiped off world
>Jurgen, one of the Masters of the Voice goes into contemplation to understand what happened
>after seven years of meditation, Gods reveal to Jurgen it was punishment for using their weapon given to fight the dragons as a tool for combat and conquest
>Jurgen creates The Way of the Voice
>the other SEVENTEEN Masters of the Voice challenge Jurgen over this
>all of them attack at once
>with the Gods on his side, Jurgen defeats all SEVENTEEN simultaneously in a battle lasting three days
>all Masters of the Voice serve Jurgen as the first order of Greybeards, and ALL practitioners now agree the Gods do not want the Voice used as a weapon, except for Dragonborn
>Greybeards anoint Talos, and later the Last Dragonborn
>only one man has ever dared use the Voice as a weapon that wasn't a Dragonborn since, and his crime literally called the World Eater out of space and time and very nearly ended the entire universe, along with creating the bloodiest war and loss of Nordic life in Tamrielic history

>the last thing they want to do is invalidate player choices
Ever heard of Dragon breaks? A lot of shit gets retconned or both endings are made canon.

>But it's pity you're a lorelet to forget the point of the 3rd empire emperors in the first place.
How is this even relevant to the conversation, no I haven't forgotten that, I already know that, it's not relevant, it hasn't been relevant since oblivion

Not everything has to be a dragon break and there isn't even any reason for one to happen

A time dragon literally breaks at the end of Skyrim. The dragon that should've restarted the kalpa. Yeah that's the most devastating dragon break and timeline divergence to occur.

i think that's canon propaganda

Yeah but it's a bit of an overreaction, Daggerfalls endings necessitated something like that with how different they are, Skyrim really doesn't need it, all it takes is some outside force storming through skyrim or someone else becoming high king and suddenly it doesn't matter who won the civil war

How? Care to point out the bit where everybody is well versed in what the voice is?
Why do guards tell you people are scared of "that shouting", clearly demonstrating they don't know what it is?

sided with the empire because elisif is cute

The game is nearly a decade old. That’s an impressive rock you’ve lived under

Civil war is always good for your enemies.

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The guards know what it is after the dragon fight and Balgruuf knows what the greybeard summon is about. They may have never seen shouting but it's described in many tales.

So it's a mythical power nobody has heard of outside of legend then?

Why are shouts considered to be so great? There's way more powerful spells out there that don't take years to learn.

>potentially unintentionally benfitting a threat if you fulfill certain logistics = getting your ass kicked and cucked so hard you sign away part of your religion and actively cooperate with the force you fought for years
Damn... Really makes you think

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Wasn't Alduin just ending the kalpa?

Nords know good and well what the shout is and the Greybeards are a well known religious order so much as to even something of a tourist spot

Dude stfu even Nord children know what the voice is. They probably brag about how they've seen Draugr outside the crypt shouting at the skellies or something.

They really care more about your ability to permanently kill dragons. Thu'um is more a side effect/indicator. That and the game cant really display what shouts are really capable of

No I mean why do the Greybeards dedicate their lives to this shit when they could've just joined the college and still had their youth by the time they knew how to cast spells.

Like I said. The game cant really give the player the full force of what a shout can do. In lore the Voice was used to destroy entire armies. Remember when you took the first dragon soul and they shook all of Skyrim just saying your name? In lore normal magic aint got shit on the Thu'um.
Also they're hippies about it and dont use it to do cool wizard shit

So it's another "it's not like this in-game but that's how it is in the lore" issue, just like world and city size? God I hate this franchise sometimes.

It's not about the power to them they're monks that worship the gods by shouting at the sky

You are adding a lot of hyperbole to the story.

Kyne never explicitly stated the Thu'um was just for killing Dragons. The Nords experienced multiple highly successful campaigns against many of the most powerful Kingdoms in Tamriel at the time
The War of Succesion was a large war, that in now way favored the Nords once the Chimer Dwemer alliance was rectified thanks the unlikely friendship of Nerevar and Dumac
The Nordic army was pushed back with heavy losses, but wasn't obliterated, the major upset was that the Tongues were selectively targeted, resulting in the near wipe out of many schools
Jurgen wasn't actually confirmed to have been spoken to by Kyne, his philosophy was based on meditation and trying to cope with his trauma
The other Seventeen masters of the voice weren't masters, they were the acolytes of the other Schools of the Voice, whose masters had died at Red mountain earlier. Their decision that Jurgen's philosiphy was correct was ultimately rooted in how Nords decide how anyone is correct. "Might Makes Right"

>help imperials conquer Ulfric
>bust into his throne room expecting epic fight
>"I am Ulfric, despite all my talk I am a pussy, I wont fight back, just hit me once with whatever you want and i'll die like the pussy I am."

Sounds about right to me

I can see it being a cop-out type of ending, Ulfric and Tullius die in battle, both the Legion and Stormcloaks suffer great losses. The Last Dragonborn, having been occupied with defeating Alduin and solving the Dragon Crisis, calls for a Moot for the next High King of Skyrim at High Hrothgar. Given the new respect for the Dragonborn all the Jarls agree. By the end it is agreed upon that Balgruuf takes the throne and weds Torygg's widow Elisif. The Dragonborn, also the Harbinger of the Companions, founds an order of Talos made up of the Companions, who's purpose is to fight against those who disallow Talos worship in Skyrim.

In other questlines:
>Mirabelle Ervine becomes the new head of the College
>Thieves Guild extend their influence across Skyrim
>Emperor Titus Mede II is assassinated

useful idiot more so than a puppet.

Nords lose to the Chimer and Dwemer alliance, the gods did not reveal the reason of why they lost Jurgen Windcaller simply assumed, they only became so powerful to be able to attack other lands because of the voice in the first place.
The other users of the voice did not challenge Jurgen on it, it was the other way around and he made them submit to his way out of pure strength not because his revelation was right.
Where did you get this part of them fighting him all at once? I don't remember that.

Elder Scrolls thread? Post dunmer slaves so that I can handhold and protect them forever

Just kidding I'm going to beat off to the imagery of me raping them

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How is Mirabelle dying not canon? It's not avoidable.

If you're good at enchanting or smithing
or both you can easily make items that overshadow legendary artifacts. For smithing just craft iron daggers until you max out and then enchant them and sell them. You'll probably make a profit or at the very least break even and you raise your skill very quickly. Also get mods

never got doing this at the start just overlevels you, you can just use the ingots and ore you find during playing and smith, imporove and enchant and sell on the move, keeping it balanced.

How about I post their heads on a fucking pike you degenerate

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>play semantics about the one imprecise thing that was said because the rest is true

But user, who will do all my work if not for my Dunmer slaves?

Well yeah, you don't stay in town and wait for merchants to restock. But I still recommend buying up any iron and leather you find because it just goes faster that way.

I don't get why Bethesda can't just embrace the wish fulfillment aspect of their games.

It's hard to say if any of those questlines would turn out well if the dragonborn isn't there.

Ancano destroys the college
Thieves Guild stays in obscurity due to the curse
Dark Brotherhood gets wiped out by the Penitus Oculatus

Do you think that a company that can't even be assed to impliment mods that fix their game could go through the extra development needed to let you become high king?

Hero of Kvatch got to become a Daedric Prince, and the Nerevarine is some immortal off fucking hot snake women. That's pretty good.

No, his actions can serve their interest though and they try to manipulate things around him.
Like the Civil War being protracted weakens the Empire so they work to fan those flames and keep it going.
The Greybeards think it's blaspheming because of Jurgen Windcaller's teachings, not because it was ever proven, as a result of Jurgen winning against other voice users he forbade it being taught to anyone not willing to accept The Way of the Voice.
That's just silly, nowhere does it say there are limitations on how you win or that you can't use magic, you just made that up.
Finally someone who is not making things up to fit what they want to believe. The whole reason they have the challenge is to ensure the High King is king because of personal strength.
The purpose of Ulfric challenging him was to show how the High King was only High King because The Empire made him so, not because he earned it through strength like it's supposed to be.

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TFW NO DUNMER GF REEEEEEEEEE

Act like a true Nordman and do your own work for your family. Dont make me come to your neighborhood

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Rolf go home, we both know I can kick your ass up and down the grey quarter with just my swinging cock and leave me to my Dunmer slaves

youtube.com/watch?v=JflsBihO_MQ

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Just try it ash-cock. They dont call me Stone-Fist fer no reason

>"ash-cock"
>told me to act like a true Nordman before

I'm just a guy who likes elven coochie as much as I like Nordwomen's. Is it so wrong for me to improve the elven bloodlines by impregnating as many as I can?

>Stick cock in Ash-lander = ash-cock
You fool. Dont you understand that you're merely extending their cursed bloodline and extinguishing your own? Do I need to get Pelinal?

Dunmer women only spawn more Dunmer. You are part of the problem.

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I love
LOVE
GOLDEN ALTMER PUSSY[/SPOILER]

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Children always have their mother's race in TES. Thanks for breeding more knife-ears asshole.

"No"

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Reminder that Ulfric is a scum fuck pussy who ran away like a little bitch after killing Torryg because he knew was a cheating coward.

Reminder that retreating while being horribly outnumbered is the only sane thing to do unless you're the PC who has literal in universe cheats on their side.

both of them end up in Sovngarde so Shor clearly didn't have a problem with either of their actions

What's that mod, user?

Sadly I don't know, that pic is some other user's character
he pops up from time to time so you might find the answer you seek in some thread eventually
maybe try /tesg/ if you're desperate

Torryg was a bitch got his ass clapped in his own city.

>both of them end up in Sovngarde

This is shit tier canon. Torryg being there makes no sense and Bethesda fucked up.

Just more Dunmer women to sperm inside teehee

it is explicitly stated that any Nord can learn it and that the Greybeards will teach anyone
suck a dick

Torryg died with the intent to fight. Rejecting the duel and being murdered would have made him not go to Sovngarde.

>Torryg being there makes no sense
even if he was killed almost instantly, he still agreed to and died in honorable combat

Shit man, hope he comes on soon so I can get into spumming inside shiny Altmer vag all day

One thing I have to point out to many who keep making these threads YEARS after this game has been deconstructed and analyzed repeatedly:
>Ulfric cited an ancient tradition that while all modern Nords recognize as valid, the Empire see it as outdated and barbaric.
>Ulfric didn’t “cheat”, he utilized a weapon of the ancient tongues that takes years to master. The Empire tries to make it out that he cheat to make him look bad, because to them using weapons that the other side doesn’t have is cheating in their more civilized culture.
>Ulfric is a “uncooperative asset”. He was planted to start the civil war in Skyrim true, but... The. Thalmore. Don’t. Want. Him.To. Win. Either. If Skyrim wins independence, then the Empire won’t be busy wasting resources and they then have another enemy to worry about. An enemy that has the ancient inborn hatred of their kind. It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong in the civil war. What matters is that the civil are ends, so that the Empire (and a possible independent Skyrim) will have enough time to make enough babies to be ready for the next war the Aldmeri Dominion will start again.

Wow, it's almost as if...Bethesda intentionally paints both sides in shades of grey so there isn't one with a clear moral right so that nobody can say an individual player's choice was wrong and that in the next game when books and occasional passing dialogue refer to the war as "a stalemate" with no clear victors, there won't be a canon answer anyone can point to to defend which side they chose in a boring questline that only changes the guards, half the jarls, and gives you a set of armor that's not as good as shit you can make yourself.

mostly this
A swift end to the civil war - no matter who wins - is the worst outcome for the Thalmor

>Empire have racial equality.
>Stormcloaks have freedom of religion.
>Both are fine with gay marriage.
What did Bethesda mean by this?

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fort amor + sneak
and you're on easy more

smith + enchanting
and you just activated vanilla console commands

>tfw no argonian bf

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There's literally a timestop shout.

So TES is the ultimate kosher jew game?

there is no clear racial equivalence to the real world in Elder Scrolls so having characters who are racist against Elves or Men can just be story telling. Marriage is literally just a function in the game (sleeping with your spouse increases stat gains for a day and they function as another shop) and they win or lose nothing by letting you marry whoever because you can only have children by adoption
never noticed it, are there any same sex NPC couples in Skyrim?

Soul Tear is probably the best shout
>300 damage
>fills soul gem if it kills

but Slow Time is also top tier

>are there any same sex NPC couples in Skyrim?
Nope.

Ulfrig and his general

>settling on being the king of Skyrim
>first you ally with the Stormcloaks and kick the Imperials out of Skyrim and let Ulfric take his little throne
>but you master the Voice, raise an army of dragons, warriors, mages, thieves, assassins, and Nordic nationalists to take south to Cyrodill and demand you become Emperor of Tamriel since the seat recently vacated and use your power, drive, and connections to push back the Thalmor and reestablish Talos as a God of Cyrodill.
Because, honestly, who could stop you?

Hmmm, it's almost as if he wouldn't be horribly outnumbered if he didn't cowardly murder the High King in his own palace.

He's a good goy

That always confused me. I can understand the Pokémon logic, but that contradicts the origins of the Bretons. It makes me think that when the Nords first came across them and confused them for actual Elves, I now imagine a Nord with an axe ready standing over a full blooded Altmer begging for his life in the Nordic tongue. My theory is that the Bretons didn’t really become what they are until male elves (that were seen as halfbreeds) by other elves married Nordic and remaining Nedic women, thus became the Bretons we know now.

It might be a result of doing having race-mixed babies over and over for generations. A Nord fucking a Dunmer won't have any real change but if every Nord fucked every Dunmer for 5 generations and all their kids fucked and so on?

In the dragonborn dlc, there is one. But they are both dead.

You would only get full blooded Dunmer with increased Nord features every generation though.

I wonder who could be behind this thread?

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i wish skyrim was as fun as its lore

baste

>skyrim came out almost 8 years ago
jesus fuck

Max out enchanting asap, it's broken in literally every elder scrolls game and this one is no different

Choose the Horse Sign or wear Light Armor since there is an armor value cap so at endgame, light armor is objectively better

Stealth Archery is unironically OP as well, you can mix it with conjuration to have a summon attack people amd cause a ruckus while you sneak shot them from the shadows

>go to Thalmor fort
>summon Durnehviir
>sit back and watch

He's not in the great hall in sovngarde tho, just in the realm where any nord who died honorably will go

They're instantaneous, powerful, and reliable. Also not all shouts are equal. Sure some are just worse spells but at least they're quick to come out, but some shouts can cripple and fell dragons or stop time etc.

Isn't Alduin trapping anyone who goes to sovngarde outside though

PORN MODS

You would get 6'3 Dunmer with big muscles

Because it's an ability only nords can use that can give them an extra edge. Some use it better than others, and the most powerful uses could turn the tide a battle.

Elemental Fury is the best shout

what's the most useless shout though?

Throw voice

kyne's peace

This.

fire breath kind of sucks too

>Directly to blame for most of the problems in the reach
>Literal thalmor puppet
>Lost once already

throw voice is good

yeah that's easily the most useless

>Literal thalmor puppet
is the Ulfric dossier the most misunderstood thing in all of videogames or something

People just skimmed over it and started parroting their wrong interpretation, while others did the same
Same thing goes for the Thalmor = da joos

>Not a single forbidden love questline between a Thalmor and a Nord

Missed opportunity

>The thing that enables stealth archery even more
>Bad

>balgruuf becomes the new high king

I'd be perfectly fine with this.

user that is how it is in almost all fucking games.

>play Altmer
>go to join Stormcloaks
>"how do we know you're not a Thalmor spy"
did you miss the part where I was about to be executed as the thalmor stood and did nothing?

It’s good to distract, but only if you DON’T engage, since it puts enemies on alert.

For all he knew the Thalmor engineered the dragon attack just like Delphine thought as well.

Think he would have noticed that the dragon wasn't really discriminating between targets

>hates elves
>but is also an elven cocksleeve
Is Ulfric just tsundere?

Did you see any dead Thalmor?

You need illusion quiet casting for it to work properly and why would an archer have that

This is because it is a straight downgrade to animal allegiance, and this should also makes the wood elf's race power useless

no but they were right there in the thick of the action where nearly everybody else died

and if Ulfric really did believe the Thalmor were behind the dragon attack, he wouldn't let ANY Altmer join him no matter what

killing an ice wraith sure as fuck wouldn't be enough to win his trust

>not power leveling illusion with muffle just to be able to cloak and dagger with invisibility
My guy you know nothing of skyrim stealth mechanics

You can probably just use the muffle spell instead.

psijic monks

doesn't work - spellcasting breaks muffle
you need silent casting

No it doesn't. Muffle doesn't get broken by anything

Muffle only makes your movement quiet, not spells or attacking people.

Can any lorefriends help me out? I'm trying to learn more myself buy what I don't quite know is where dies ESO stand in canon? I assume at most it's semi-canon.

God those spelling error. Sorry,I only got like 4 hours of sleep.

completely non-canon

No joke. The Ordiantor mod has some really silly buffs, +25% here, +25% there but the author didn't realize that together they make it possible to enchant gear boosting alchemy, then create fortify enchantment potion, then use it to create stronger enchant gear, and unlike in Vanilla where this converges to a certain +bonus to enchanting and alchemy and doesn't go any higher, in Ordinartor this goes to infinity. You have a +1000 to alchemy ring, make a potion wearing it, drink it and make a new ring with +10000 to alchemy.

Ah,damn. I think there's some pretty neat stuff in there.

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That's exactly how you become OP in Skyrim.

Disregard this retarded post. I thought I was posting in the Oblivion thread.

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iirc vanilla patched it out
used to be that you could do those loops until you were smithing shit like 10000 dmg iron daggers.

His fight with Torygg was never intended to be fair, Torygg was a message. Even without the Voice Ulfric is a seasoned veteran of the Imperial Legion that fought in the Great War, Torygg didn't stand a chance against him in combat either way.

>ever recollection

Every recollection from an Imperial aligned Nord. If you talk to Torygg in Sovngarde he literally says he "faced Ulfric fearlessly", this implies the duel from Torygga's himself. You also do not get into Sovngarde by being assassinated, you have to die in combat. These two facts absolutely blow the Imperial's story out of the water.

Nope. I'm still doing it to this very gay.

depends on if future games will reference eso

you know, to the average Orc, the entire Civil War came and went and they probably barely noticed

I don't even think the orc holds are scripted to be able to get attacked by dragons or vampires either

Expecting basic reading comprehension from a sect of the fanbase who's biggest rallying cry against the opposition is "DEYS WAYCIS!" is a tall drink.

Stealth archery isnt purely a meme. It's unironically the strongest build in the game.

The civil war is going to get dragonbreaked isn't it?

No the strongest build would be invisibility + muffle + dagger. You do way more damage and is way more fun to play.

by all rights it probably should
Alduin's death could easily be written as causing such a thing

And you use the series' namesake in trying to defeat him.

Alduin wasn't defeated, he can't be. He was simply put in his place by the dragonborn.

So does that mean that the last dragonborn is the cuck of the player characters?

>the voice is magic

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Come to think of it you don't absorb his soul

There is that one orc hold in The Rift that gets fucking destroyed by giants until you held them out.

The game calls it "an ancient form of magic" to the letter.

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yeah but that was because they'd pissed off Malacath so it was totally divorced from all the bigger conflicts going on in Skyrim

>what is Tonal Magic

Not that I expect anything less from a sub human who actually saves wojak images.

Alduin is a nigger

Torygg was a retard for accepting the challenge.

Same reason you can't become emperor in Oblivion. They don't want to fuck with the lore and they want every choice the player makes to be canon. Making the player emperor or rules Skyrim destroys the lore.

So an elder scroll is indestructible, right? So could someone, in theory, use one as an unbreakable blunt instrument?

the dragonborn is more powerful than all the other protagonist after absorbing Miraaks soul

Bow is much safer than that and can be used at all ranges

Why would anyone do that instead of opening it directly in the face of anyone in town to blind them and melt their brain

>Torygg was not a faggot for accepting the challenge
Fixed.

He had no choice. If he didn't accept the challenge a Moot would be called to elect a new High King.

completely canon.
only retards who don't know anything and believed memes in 2014 think otherwise.

more powerful than a daedric prince i doubt that.

Use one for hitting and another just open it and stick it to a shield for blinding.

>only changes the guards, half the jarls, and gives you a set of armor that's not as good as shit you can make yourself.
sounds like a normal civil war then

Outside of his realm, definitely and even then Miraak nearly broke out of Hermeus Moras personal realm.

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Based imbecile

>armor that's not as good as shit you can make yourself.
To be fair, you can basically become the greatest blacksmith/armorer to ever grace mundus.

One of the most powerful Daedric Princes had his shit pushed in by a bunch homolust lizards that worship trees and a random peasant that thinks he's Sheogorath.

They can be destroyed but at the same time they cannot be destroyed. Its stupid.
And no, they wouldnt be very effective as blunt weapons.

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not really. If you get into trouble you just invisibility your way out. And cloak and dagger is much more effective than a silly bow.

That only happens if you try to read it. You can look at it if you don't try to read it.

So what exactly IS an elder scroll? An omnipresent fragment of information that refers to events both past present and future?

If you finish the civil war killing Ulfric and fight Alduin, doesn't everyone shun him in Sovengard because he has no honor?

Is it explained why that fag was chosen in the first place?

His father was the High King before him.

>Fight begins
>FUS... ROHDAH!
>Whales on the stunned Emperor until he dies
>Fair Fight

He inherited the position. At that point the Jarls didn't really give a fuck since it was a purely symbolic position before the civil war.

>If you get into trouble you just invisibility your way out
With a bow, you'll never get into trouble, and you can hit any enemy in the entire game from any conceivable range of engagement

if it was a fair fight
then why did he ran away immediately after?

>Religion has arbitrary bullshit rules
how is this NOT realistic?

>Stormcloaks are obviously meant to be the good guys
>Portrayed as knuckle dragging racists
>All the Stormcloak supporting Jarls are either corrupt, assholes or backwoods morons
>Even the Empire's characters hate the Thalmor, the obvious moustache twirling villains
>Rebellion is literally the only reasons Aldiun is strong enough to return
>At the Peace Treaty Ulfric is cleary the unreasonable one
>The only reason the civil war is being aloud to happen is because the Thalmor are manipulating him

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Because you'll hurt the theists' feelings.
And then the mental gymnastics will begin.

But could Dragonborn throw something like Baar Dau at his enemies?

>uses vile jewish sorcery to claim a position of power
What's new?

Yeah if you want to be a faggot behind a bow while having 1/4th the dps be my guest

>Miraak is surely dead in future canon now
i love him so much as a character
he fits elder scrolls to a T

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No idea. Fragments of Ald-Anu's imagination?
Maybe something to do with Aka? Who the fuck knows.

I don't want to be your guest

Is it a vagina?

then stop using the bow you absolute faggot

Probably if there is a shout that does it, he can already control the weather and make every living being his slave.

Bows are the natural evolution of warfare, you fucking dinosaur.

>Challenges a boy-king to duel
>Starts getting his ass handed to him by a fuckin kid
>NOOOOOOOOOO THIS ISNT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN
>Bitches out and uses a shout like the milk drinker he is
>Utterly doomed to failure because he abused the voice

stormcucks eternally BTFO

what did ulfric mean by this?

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Surely that would have been better than fucking dying for nothing.

>Portrayed as knuckle dragging racists
There is quite literally TWO hobos in Windhelm that say something racist and that somehow paints the entire movement
>All the Stormcloak supporting Jarls are either corrupt, assholes or backwoods morons
Meanwhile Sedier lets bandits raid his own people, and Maven is so corrupt she would make the Commona Tong blush
>Even the Empire's characters hate the Thalmor, the obvious moustache twirling villains
Actually play the Stormcloak questline you moron, Galmar and Ulfric state clear as day they are aware the Thalmor are the biggest threat and that they are the true enemy
>Rebellion is literally the only reasons Aldiun is strong enough to return
More went into it than the rebellion, a rebellion that could have been avoided if the Emperor had actually practiced something called diplomacy
>At the Peace Treaty Ulfric is cleary the unreasonable one
He's got people accusing him of the highest treason in the land AND the Imperials bring a fucking Thalmor agent into High Hrothgar
>The only reason the civil war is being aloud to happen is because the Thalmor are manipulating him
Thalmor are manipulating both sides, it's their power play, actually read the dossier and comprehend what it says instead of seeing the word "asset" and going full retard. The Empire is as much an asset to the Thalmor as Ulfric is. They do not want either side winning the war.

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>the voice isn't magic
>it's literally described as magic in the game
based retard

Probably some retarded Dragonbreak where both sides simultaneously win and lose.

Kinda like how the canon ending of Daggerfall is that all endings happen simultaneously despite them being mutually exclusive from an in-game perspective

Thanks to Ulfric's challenge Torygg got into Sovngarde, something that likely would have been denied of him given his luxurious lifestyle. I'd say it worked out pretty good for him

Bows are yesterday, it's now up to the cloak and dagger assassins to get shit done while your lazy ass is 50 feet away missing every shot.

Ah. That does seem like a pretty good trade-off.

There's no description of the fight other than the High-King being "shouted to pieces," you cocksucker.
Ulfric wanted to intimidate the Jarls by going 100%, like the sperg he is.

Dude I went to the cloud district in the evening to kill nazeem and the dude didn’t even live there

They were going to make a separate tab just for shouts, so they put it into the magic tap.
Since they function similarly.

>There is quite literally TWO hobos in Windhelm that say something racist and that somehow paints the entire movement
It's Ulfircs policy that Argonians are banned from the city and Dunmer are in a ghetto
>Meanwhile Sedier lets bandits raid his own people, and Maven is so corrupt she would make the Commona Tong blush
I didn't say all Imperial Jarls were good, but all there literally isn't a good Stormcloak one I can think of
>Actually play the Stormcloak questline you moron, Galmar and Ulfric state clear as day they are aware the Thalmor are the biggest threat and that they are the true enemy
Calm down there, Nordlett, I didn't say they weren't aware but Skyrim couldn't defeat them alone and all the rebellion does is ensure the Empire is weaker and less likely to be able to
>More went into it than the rebellion, a rebellion that could have been avoided if the Emperor had actually practiced something called diplomacy
"And the Scrolls have foretold, of black wings in the cold, that when brothers wage war come unfurled! Alduin, bane of Kings, ancient shadow unbound, With a hunger to swallow the world!". The only reason Aldiun is strong is because he feasts one the souls of the war dead
>He's got people accusing him of the highest treason in the land AND the Imperials bring a fucking Thalmor agent into High Hrothgar
He has committed high treason against the Empire. Even if you think he's justified and think his challenge of Torygg was fgair he is still in open rebellion, not just to be high king but to leave the Empire. Also the Thalmor are a legal pollitical power and counsel to the Empire in an official capacity, they do have the right to be there whether you like them or not.
cont.

Assassin are big pussies.
Assassins die more than once.
Also, noticed how the Dark Brotherhood (the most popular assassin organisation) are portray as fags...?
That isn't a coincidence.

>It's Ulfircs policy that Argonians are banned
Argonians are fucking gross.

People who hide 100 feet away from any real combat just to shoot pointy sticks at people are the real faggots of skyrim.

>Thalmor are manipulating both sides, it's their power play, actually read the dossier and comprehend what it says instead of seeing the word "asset" and going full retard. The Empire is as much an asset to the Thalmor as Ulfric is. They do not want either side winning the war
Exactly, the Thalmor want Ulfirc's rebellion to continue as long as possible and so help behind the scenes. By your own admission the Empire would be a larger threat to the Thalmor without him.
Everyone on the Imperial side is fully aware that the Thalmor hold too much power within the Empire and wish to put an end to it but cannot because of the Stormcloaks

And by abusing the voice he utterly fucked himself and his goals

He could have just easily smacked Torygg down barehanded if he wanted but went out of his way to doom himself for no fuckin reason.

Clearly Ulfric is too fucking retarded to lead.

The entire point is that Ulfric is acting against the interests of all races of men. The stormcloaks are incapable of seeing the bigger picture, the empire didn't ban the worship of Talos because they wanted to do, they did it because it was one of the conditions the Thalmor demanded in exchange for peace (Which both sides knew was temporary). The Imperials wanted to recoup and prepare for the continuation of the fighting, but instead they have to deal with snow niggers chimping out because they can't openly worship Talos for a very brief period of time until the fighting continues. Ulfric is probably not a Thalmor agent, but he is their puppet, even though he perhaps isn't aware of it. Defending Nord traditions for a brief period of time is not worth the total destruction of all races of man, including the Nords.

>t. Homosexual assassinfag

Sounds like smart folk

>It's Ulfircs policy that Argonians are banned from the city and Dunmer are in a ghetto
Where would you have the Argonians go in Windhelm? There is no more room for them, unless you actually think they should give the Temple of Talos to some foreigners. The Dunmer are to blame for their situation, the High Elf citizens of Windhelm have no problems and one of them even tells you the Dunmer don't want to work to better their situation
>I didn't say all Imperial Jarls were good, but all there literally isn't a good Stormcloak one I can think of
Vignar is a good Jarl, his only flaw is his not Balgruuf. Layla is a good person, just very naive.
>Calm down there, Nordlett, I didn't say they weren't aware but Skyrim couldn't defeat them alone and all the rebellion does is ensure the Empire is weaker and less likely to be able to
The Thalmor lost to Hammerfell and Skyrim is the most naturally defend province in Tamriel, invading Skyrim would be a logistical nightmare. There is no easy way for the Thalmor to attack the province without going through Cyrodiil or risking the Sea of Ghosts.
>Alduin
Again, the civil war could have been prevented had Titus Mede actually gave enough of a shit to practice diplomacy instead of assuming every province was going to roll over and die for Cyrodiil's sake.

Yes, the Thalmor are a counsel to the Empire and that's is a problem if you didn't notice. The Empire is allowing the Thalmor to influence its political power and aristocratic class. Please tell me how allowing the Thalmor free reign in any Empire controlled province is supposed to be a good thing. Empire aligned nobles are so ready to fall into bed with the Thalmor because of their money, even Tulius comments on this in Elenwen's party.

So keeping to bitter enemies separated is now racist?
If he was racist he would lock them in the grey quarter together and let nature take it's course.

Once the Hist Lickers are done they can go back to work on the docks.

>unintentionally
That's why people make videogames games, user

This law sounds so stupid. So you're telling me that you could have a wise and fair high king, but if some mouthbreathing brute comes in and kills them in combat they're now allowed the throne? No wonder everyone makes fun of Nord traditions.

The empire died at the end of Oblivion.

>t. faggot who has no skills other than pulling a string

smart folk learn illusion magic to become silent and invisible to stab people with knives to get that 15x damage bonus

No, you don't become King by killing the King.
The moot needs to vote for the King

*munch munch* satanic powers are perfectly fair in a sword fight

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They would've called him a murderer, anyway.
Ulfric has no time with pussy things, such as strategies or common sense.

The Morag Tong is based

>so they help behind the scenes

Except the dossier clearly states Ulfric is not working with them and refuses any sort of contact. I also never said anywhere that the Empire would be a "larger" threat, because at this point what is the Empire threatening other than its own people. The Empire is supposedly """preparing""" for the Great War yet the Thalmor are still a political power in the Empire, Cyrodiil is in shambles by Camilla's own admission, and the Elder Council wants their own Emperor dead. Even one of the Empire Jarls says they don't think the Empire can handle another war with the Dominion, the only thing the Empire is doing is allowing the Dominion to gain influence and political power in its own borders. If the Empire bent over for the Thalmor in the Markarth incident they sure as hell are not ready for another Great War, especially after years of Civil War.

Ulfric represents the old ways of the Nords if you hadn't noticed. Might makes right, the Thu'um was a regular tool of war before Jurgen Windcaller monopolized the Thu'um so only the Greybeards could use it.

The Empire is no longer legitimate. Skyrim-Hammerfell Alliance when?

This is blatantly false.

Oh yeah the Empire is the only thing that is capable of stopping the Thalmor. Don't tell the Redguards anything though.

>Keeps Dunmer in slum and Argonians on docks to stop them fighting
>Grey quarter is the least guarded part of the city and the only way toget to the docks is through it
Wow, Ulfric really is a brainlet

>smart folk learn illusion magic to become silent and invisible to stab people with knives to get that 15x damage bonus
Smart folk have no need of illusion magic, because they're halfway across the world, no scoping dragons and wild Bretons. No risk or mana needed

This, let's rally the chimps together and fuck the Altmer into extinction.

kek

I'm trying to make a heavy armored, great sword using knight, I just don't have any idea If I should use a Nord or brenton.
I'm on xbone and using mods so..

Americans really like this

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We will fuck them all to death

Oh so.

GIVE ME HIGH ELF GIRLFRIEND PLS.

>that insults me constantly.

Doesn't breton have natural magic resistance? Statistically better, especially at higher levels when enemy mages become op for some reason.

May as well through High Rock into that alliance as well considering the moment Skyrim secedes there is no more Empire, just Cyrodiil. If Skyrim secedes all land routes into High Rock are gone.

Wu,k?

What's your point? Do you think less resistance to the Thalmor is somehow better than more? Everyone with a brain realized that the ban on Talos worship is going to be very short-lived. Instead of acting intelligently Ulfric cooked up an internal conflict by stirring up the plebs with his populist rhetoric that caused the deaths of many Imperial and Nordic men, and the only faction that benefits from this in any way are the Thalmor. I can't imagine how anyone can even support the Stormcloaks, you either have to be a brainlet or be overly prideful to the point where you're willing to throw away the lives of your countrymen for basically nothing.

>Except the dossier clearly states Ulfric is not working with them and refuses any sort of contact
Do you know what "behind the scenes" means?

The Empire is very clearly gearing up for round 2 with the Dominion but have lost the strength of Morrowind and Hammerfell and aren't strong enough yet so they need to abide by the Dominions presence until they can do something. Hamerfell is currently at war with the Dominion, Black Marsh is busy with Morrowind and Morrowind is a smouldering ruin. They only way to dominion can be defeated is through a union of Provinces, Skyrim won't be able to themselves so if they were independent they would have no available allies as the only province left is Highrock, which are still part of the Empire.
Things aren't good for the Highrock, Skyrim, Cyrodiil Empire but it's hopeless with them split up

b-but muh empire

You're making a very dumb assumption in that Skyrim seceding equates to "less" resistance to the Thalmor. You know what the White Gold Concordat is actually doing? It's protecting the Thalmor while they sabotage the Empire from within as much as they can. In an ironic way, it's protecting the Thalmor from out right retaliation. If you actually play the Stormcloak questline Ulfric blatantly declares war on the Aldmeri Dominion, as well as stating once Skyrim is rebuilt and its armies readied they will take the fight to the Thalmor. At this point I have no idea how anyone could actually support the Empire, your only argument is a "what if" scenario that is not happening if you go by most of the dialogue found in the game. And here's the thing, the Empire had and has a choice, and it's been making the wrong ones. The Empire COULD have sent diplomats to Skyrim when the rumors of a Rebellion were swirling, especially after the Markart incident, but they did not. The Empire COULD have just let Skyrim go and hold an alliance with them because as you stated everyone knows the Thalmor are the threat The more armies restricted by the Concordat the better it is for them. The Empire COULD have not flat out lied to Ulfric and his men and let him take the fall for it, but they did. The Empire COULD not let the Thalmor abduct and kill Nords loyal to their cause, but they are. There is absolutely nothing to say a Skyrim/High Rock/Hammerfell alliance would not fair better against the Aldmeri Dominion than a crumbling Empire.

High Rock useful in defeating the AD
Skyrim useful in defeating the AD
Hammerfell useful in defeating the AD

Cyrodil actually getting in the way of defeating the AD.

Abandon Cyrodil and let the AD choke on it.They can't completely control it and they can't just walk away.

Ya I think I'll do that.
Make a paladin or something.

Empire wins because they will allow me to marry khajiit and argonian cuties.

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The Empire is the second hardest cock in the changing room, just after the Dominion.

The Empire could've worked up its boner and penetrated the Dominion's muscle-chiselled buttocks.
That is, until the fat fuck Ulfric showed up.

>gearing up for round 2

Right because them bending over to the Thalmor at the Markarth incident + years of Civil War really make it seem like the Empire is capable of such a thing
>Hammerfell
Hammerfell stale mated the Dominion and got a better treaty than the Empire did. If you hadn't noticed there's a recurring theme with the Thalmor, they don't handle direct land skirmishes very well. Morrowind is also Empire in name only, you're an absolute fool if you think Morrowind would lift a finger to help Cyrodiil after the Empire completely abandoned them during the Oblivion Crisis. Sure, a union of Provinces, that doesn't mean the Empire has to be involved. There would be nothing stopping a Skyrim/High Rock/Hammerfell alliance from waging war on the Dominion.

Okay so you need to separate from the Empire and create a new working government for Skyrim and Highrock, presumably self-governing and then have a unifying body which also incorporates Hammerfell
Does it not make sense to get the people to rally round the already existing banner of the Empire

Considering that 2/3 of the named provinces do not really like the Empire, and High Rock likely does not give a flying fuck either way no it does not.

I'm convinced you didn't read anything that was written.
I clearly said that the Empire wasn't capable of fighting the Dominion yet, but the rebellion was taking resources away from that and thus, playing right into their hands.
Also I clearly stated that the Empire had lost the strength of Morrowind

Ever heard of the Nord racial skill "Battle Cry" ?
It's a Thu'um. The voice is a normal part of a Nord's life.
Yes the Greybeards were founded because the voice was degraded to a mere weapon but they actually taught Tiber Septim so he could defeat the elves. Ulfric's use of the voice is not fitting for a greybeard but completely legit in relation to the old ways because he used it to kill a Thalmor puppet and protect the heritage of the father of Dragons himself.

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ah... why couldn't I have been born a cute khajiit

I still wish you could just walk in and assassinate ulfric/tulius if you wanted to.

No, that would make Skyrim a RPG.

Would Pelinal have signed a treaty? I think not.

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Is it wrong for me to support The Empire solely on because they have Roman aesthetic and look alot cooler, than some dunces with blue overals and ketles on their heads?

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It's fine user, aesthetics are important.

It's superficial, but valid.
I only joined them because I couldn't in Oblivion.

There is literally nothing wrong with supporting the thalmor
Mer>Khajiit>>>>>>>>>all other shit races

Pelinal was right in slaying you catfuckers.

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Does Todd want to fuck Khajiit. Ma'iq is in-universe Todd and then there's Anhassi.

For all the shitposting about how skyrim is a crap game or worse than the previous 2 elder scrolls, these threads always reach 300 posts with ease. Just admit you love the game, Yea Forums

except the thalmor want to exterminate all the beast races and other elves because they know all races are attracted to imperial men.
the empire is the correct choice.
high elves are the worst anyway.

>literally the canon race that every other race finds most attractive
>has a power for other races women to just drop their panties for you
>allowed to have an awesome house in the imperial city's most affluent district while the other races live in mud huts or mushrooms
>the face of an entire empire + a god on the level of the original aedra

why aren't you an imperial?

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>literally the manlet race that can't fight, can't conquer any lands without it being literally given to them, and can't hold "their" own Empires together
>"Their" greatest Empire was founded by a Breton who used a reality bending robot and a Nordic Ash Ghost to unify the content, they take all credit for this accomplishment
>Legions are only strong thanks to Orc, Nord, and Redguard Smiths, Soldiers, and Generals
>The greatest accomplishment of their first Empire (that needed literal divine intervention, an army of Nord warriors, and a psychotic robot from the future) is fucking up Akatosh and getting kicked out of Skyrim
>their utter ineptitude allowed the Thalmor to rise to power in Tamriel unopposed and caused the entire situation of the 4th Era.

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It actually deeper than that. He went to meet the King to chat about joining up and succeeding the empire, the king was actually going to agree but instead he just murdered him as soon as they got into a room together

If you want fucking reality to be unravelled and all humans dead I guess that makes sense.

Mate fucking high level bandits can use shouts so can the ebony warrior are you saying all these ppl trained with the grey beards ?

>being an Imperialcuck
>being a Stormcuck
Join the Third Way

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Bandits don't have shouts ever.

Not a single bandit can use shouts. You're thinking of draugr, who are nords of the ancient times when shouts were still being practiced for combat use. The Ebony Warrior one of a kind.

High Level Drauger have Shouts, and it's completely within canon because you can argue those crypts and tombs were before the time when Jurgen's cult neutered the Nords

I never should of come here.

God Skyrim fucking trashed the whole setting
How do we go back

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I downloaded a mod that allows everyone to have shouts, idiot.

>he said, posting Retcon: The Game

Imagine actually having such awful taste in world design that you actually think Oblivion is better. The most utterly generic European forest look imaginable

Just because it's generic doesn't mean it's bad, you pretentious faggot.

Actually the average normal bloke will see weird symbols but won’t understand and thus won’t have any negative affects.

Yes? No? Maybe? Probably not? It is all those things, yet at the same time neither.

I prefer Wizard King
>aid one side, take city
>Mass Hysteria the collected SC/Imperials remaining
>they murder each other while I 'kill' their leader
>headcanon claim the North, rebuild Winterhold as my personal fortress
>establish de facto government in Windhelm to handle public relations, if they betray me I'll Storm Call their city
Shweet.

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>all nords can use the voice
>implying it's his fault that the retarded emperor didn't take that into account

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>This thread is still up full of people digging the others idea, because nobody bothers to read previous posts.
There is no correct or wrong choice who you side with during the civil war guys.

>REEE at someone
>Cheating
Hmm

Ever heard of the Imperial racial skill "Voice of the Emperor" ?
It's a Thu'um. The voice is a normal part of an Imperial's life.

Aesthetically my gear is:
>Dragonplate Armor and Boots
>Wolf Gauntlets
>Amulet of Talos and gold ring
>Konahrik
It just seems right when playing as a Nord Dragonborn. I think the best weapons then should be Miraak’s Sword and Staff and Auriel’s Bow. Just seems the best fit for him.

It does make it incredibly fucking boring though.

if it's not wuuthrad it's wrong, it literally has a screaming (((elf))) on the haft.

this

>all nords can use the voice
No they can't retard.

>any dragon priest mask
it's shit

yes they can idiot, ANYONE can learn how to use the Thu'um, it just takes a fucking long time to learn.