What went wrong?

What went wrong?

Attached: 220px-Sotteotbox.jpg (220x312, 20K)

They decided to introduce the main plot like 35 hours into the game, and it was incredibly dumb.
I loved it.

I was having a blast with this game, ended disk 1 and then i noticed i didnt had disk 2
So basically, i never finished it and this shit doesnt have PC version
;_;

Nothing, I love dumb PS2 jrpgs

Nothing, I ship Fayt with Nel in every run and leave Albel and Roger's faggot asses on the backwater shit planet where they belong

A terrible plot twist that removed all tension and killed any chance the game had of maintaining its atmosphere.

Square turned Tri-Ace retarded after the 5th gen

Didn't Penny Arcade make a really on-the-nose comic about this?

The Primary antagonists got sidelined hard, and we didn't even know what they wanted from Fayt's dad until way later in the story where they became irrelevant.

Best one never gonna be topped

Attached: 40D20956-3A9B-4A3A-8567-7CDA1FFEE5A4.jpg (1242x2018, 2.52M)

Absolutely based and redpilled.

Most of the game took place in a Renaissance (it was not fucking Medieval despire what the computer PDA claimed) period planet when the game's title is a reference to outer space.

Oh and the battle system was a bit of a clusterfuck with too much auto-targeting and they treated MP as HP. 0 MP meant death for some retarded reason.

On a side note, they should have had Fayt bone Nel or Maria.

Side kick Side kick Side kick

>tfw a mobile gatcha game is now the best game in the series

Attached: 1559879462742.png (840x580, 364K)

Nothing, great gameplay and graphics, story is ridiculous but heartfelt, music is absolutely phenomenal, tons of replay ability and a fuckton or postgame content, this is what peak performance looks like

Also the plot twist may not have been what it appears to be, as the game gives a ton of hints that it may not actually be true

Not a single damn thing, besides the IC. They should have let you pick a price. But even the RNG price is fun your first playthrough - it only gets annoying post-game or trying to minmax

Starts off high stakes and in space.
Then forced on a Renaissance planet with all of the interesting plot details tied to the lore and not the events there itself. Doesn't help you're surrounded by uninteresting characters. And then the Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy pants-on-head twist happens.
Shame, loved the soundtrack and the combat system, and all the autistic detail put into the world and crafting would have been great if they went with a better story and more interesting cast of characters. But I lost interest, never finished it after the reveal. And later Star Oceans just seem worse.

>2 types of attack
>1 type can and will be blocked, the other can't
why even bother using light attacks at all

the character models
the combat
the story

literally nothing

star ocean 2 still exists, user

Nothing, that's the last good Star Ocean

People actually didn't like SO3s twist? It was so bat fuck insane that middle school me lost my shit. It's exactly what I want from JRPGs that generally have trash narratives anyway.

>character models
It was a different time.

Attached: 1536269401065.jpg (1360x764, 243K)

>play game
>it was a game all along

'no'

Attached: 1563322885338.jpg (437x647, 31K)

Literally the only thing wrong with the game is this piece of shit occupying a slot in your party.
You faggots always bitching that the "twist" somehow ruins the game can fuck off, there's no other rpg out there with better combat and more content.

Attached: 240.jpg (240x240, 8K)

>all those models stuck in a mobile game
>VP3 still never ever

Attached: 1553002607160.webm (720x1280, 3M)

Why did no one question the fact Albel was running around dressed like a Thai prostitute? Is it because they felt bad for him?

Attached: 11677549.jpg (1000x1356, 707K)

I dunno if it's this one but there's a jrpg with a similar artstyle where one of the characters has his/her pants unbuttoned and unzipped and it bothered the shit out of every time they walked around like that, how did the pants not dropped during a run.

Who's this semen collector?

No because to me, that meant everything that Claude and Rena did in SO2, the experience they had, the battles they fought mean absolutely nothing because lol it was just a game. And don't give me that dogshit reasoning that the ending of SO3 gave.

hips I guess

Attached: 1515531886628.png (640x475, 579K)

Sophia is so sexy, Im glad she won the faytbowl

Battle trophies are really brutal, that's really my main issue with it mechanically. Story wise they spend far, far too long in the medieval period.

>there's no other rpg out there with better combat
it doesn't even have the best combat in its own series
in fact it might just have the worst
>and more content.
are you kidding me?

Attached: Yuffie-FFVIIArt.png (337x566, 165K)

I bought this on ps4 recently and immediately regretted it. Don't know how I beat it back in the day.

My mates and I all loved it back when. We were all playing it at the same time too.

>11 year old
>sophia's unbutton'd pants make me feel strange
>nel shows up

this game confused me with horniness

Attached: 1531155412253.png (300x300, 50K)

Imagine the smell

YOU ARE A NINJA YUFFIE, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.
I guess it helped that back then the models didn't have much detail in them so that was never in the game.

What dev would Square have make it? Tri-Ace is out, obviously.

it was her thick, girthy cock that kept her shorts tight
why would tri-ace be out?

Irrelevant character.

>why would tri-ace be out?
Because they're bad at making video games.

HELP COMUPTER

Attached: 1538681986724.webm (720x1280, 2.87M)

user, it was her thighs. still cute though.

they're good at making video games
they just
haven't done so in a while

they made resonance of fate after all

Attached: 1554713030260.webm (960x1280, 2.86M)

THAT'S MORE LIKE IT. Shame they didnt give her the black hair and lipstick

Attached: 1532567428666.jpg (136x138, 10K)

enough of these thots
post rena, precis, and pericci

One thing I always liked about the game were some of the strange ways the story unfolds. Like the almost entirely pointless rural planet Fayt first lands on, or how Sophia vanishes for the majority of the game.

It gave the game a strange organic feel. Like the story wasn't unfolding for the benefit of the main character's heroic journey.

But Radiata Stories was excellent and released after Star Ocean 3.

Attached: 1544225403273.png (1080x1920, 1.63M)

This one?

Attached: i-Hrsx8TR.jpg (1948x1053, 1.03M)

that's the ticket

Nice.

Attached: 1562787405376.png (1366x768, 1.14M)

My favourite ps2 game. I always get goosebumps when that smol grillo casts nibelung valesti.

Attached: 1548558951854.png (750x1334, 1.59M)

>Irrelevant character

You shut your whore maggot mouth.

Here's this cool space setting oh wait now it's just a medieval setting oh wait now it's a simulation

>I had a blast with it
>Super rare
>Sold it for 200 bucks
>Bought another new one at some rundown game shop for 15 bucks
Nothing

Even the game forgets about him.

Attached: 1563152275741.jpg (249x249, 8K)

>rare
>star ocean 3
what

>game forgets about him
>when he's one of the main antagonist and can be recruited into the main party

Attached: 1558985762470.png (367x389, 121K)

Not a burger, europoor values JRPG games highly.

For a brief period so3 was really popular and in high demand and seen as "rare" online, copies weren't going for $200 anywhere I know of, but you could get $80 easy for a cib.

I came into the game with the same baggage as most people expecting it to be star ocean 2 ps2 edition, or something, I'm not even entirely sure anymore.
So of course I had everything to complain about and didn't like it.

I tried it some years later and did enjoy it much more, though it still has some issues that can't be fixed by taking the nostalgia glasses off.
Whoever made the crafting system should be shot.

Maybe I should get the game again, if just to have it in my collection.
It certainly wont be breaking my bank account looking at these prices.

Bad characters, shit story, poor pacing, almost no dungeon design and a combat system that doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Also a shit crafting system.

Not very much went wrong, it was the best Star Ocean.

I know you're baiting and/or stupid but this worked perfectly on pcsx2.

If you get it again I can highly recommend the PS4 version. Lots of tiny bug fixes went into it, not sure if people have retrofitted the ps2 isos with them, but it makes shit like the early game trophies actually viable, like beating norton in under 30 with 0 damage. Nearly impossible and heavily RNG dependent on ps2 because of enemy placement, enemies are significantly more spaced out on the re-release.

The fact this shit exists but Phantasy Star 5 doesn’t is what went wrong.

>antagonist joins party
>gets nerfed and forgotten

Why do games do this?

Attached: 1562581834370.jpg (1600x1066, 313K)

Please tell me that platinum doesn't require all battle trophies
pls

This one may be bad. But at least it is not SO5.

I still wish they could've made at least four person battles instead of three.

Attached: DjRGE9dUUAEnidx.jpg orig.jpg (800x1053, 113K)

80%, so 4D difficulty unlocked (I think, right? or was 80% the fourth costume set), so you can skip out on most of the boss battle trophies and still be alright. Thank god.

Although, I should point out, you have to beat the game on 4D and universe to get platinum as well, so even after you get all those battle trophies you have to play through it again.

"we're an ai lol" and that fucking mine segment. That hauler shit guarantees I will never replay

I wish they could make the entire party capable of fighting at the same time in large scale battles, but not shit clusterfucks like SO5.

Nothing. Smoothbrains still seethe about the plot twist as if it invalidates any sense of peril or stakes at hand the past games and this one had.

Star Ocean 3 doesnt necessarily do the regular thing a sequel does by continuing to exist in the same form as its predecessors, but it instead questions its existence and the meaning of it all.

I loved all the world details it had, I remember spending a long time just reading the encyclopedia.

The concept behind the Creation Engines or whatever they were called was really great.

To be honest. I'm not sure how you could have all the party members fight at once and not be a particle showcase like 5.

I guess if they did whole separate battle arena transitions again rather then a "Seamless place" to fight could work (Because SO5 loved throwing you in cramped areas a lot to fight in them)

Bruuuhhhh. Post Myuria i was diamonds everytime she was on screen

Attached: Taynos.jpg (720x720, 23K)

Attached: zL7zNTAlNHbMpyE7.webm (720x1280, 2.37M)

Attached: 1536312922090.webm (404x720, 2.88M)

Azazel was the bitch nigga who released the Ten Wisemen, didn't he? I'm almost sure it was in his entry that he would temper with the game from time to time. Something about his entry pretty much blatantly had something written that made it almost obvious it was him.

GLORY TO AIRYYYYGLYYYYYphhhh....

More than likely. I wouldn't put it past him.

This 100%.

RADIATA REMASTER WHEN

SIDE KICK
SIDE KICK
SIDE KICK
SIDE KICK
DIMEN-DOOR

I gotta redownload this fukkin gacha again.

Albel is a fun party member though, I always stranded roger and peppitas asses
Nel is best girl in 3 without question

DIMENSION

...

...

...

DOOR

>Make a director's cut of the game
>Add two new party member slots
>oh does this mean we can get every optional party member?
>lol no
>here have girl Cliff
>Also hey remember Nell's totally not lesbian girlfriend best friend waifu that has official art?
>yeah here's her dad that didn't exist until now and he sucks and he's a mixed melee/caster and sucks ass at BOTH

Attached: ClairLasbard.png (800x974, 253K)

1, 2, and 4 still exist

The fact that he had a sword and wasn't a cool, old man melee fighter was gay as shit.

Attached: 1546034257513.webm (720x1280, 2.87M)

>4

Attached: 1558641796872.jpg (1154x866, 86K)

that's the one

>The gatcha gave her a lot of alts
I guess Tri-ace knew they messed up.

Attached: h6IzGV5Tw-xPCeVI.webm (960x1280, 2.86M)

the fellpool characters in each game were the most fuckable characters
star ocean 3 didn't have a fellpool character
ergo, it's shit

It has the best battle system in the series behind the first two, prove me wrong

Air Raid! Air Raid! Don't mess with me!

when the fuck are we getting news on First Departure R
and when is the series merging with Tales of, they're basically the same fucking thing but one is in space
SPHERE OF MIGHT

I actually love the twist ending. I rrally hope the next one takes place after this one. Id love to see some kinda war with earth and the "other side"

Nothing.

>tales of star ocean
hmmm

>Tales of the Stars

The plot would be fine, if it actually did it's pacing correctly. You spend the first fucking bit of the game worrying about a completely different enemy, only to have any sense of accomplishment about that enemy blown up by a greater threat and then once you can finally do something about that threat, it doesn't even feel satisfying. All of it feels arbitrary as fuck and tacked onto one of the worst combat systems I have ever had to deal with.

Seriously, I went into this game without playing 2 and it's just bad. I have never seen a game squander it's story harder then Till the End of Time does. It's the meaning of pretentious bullshit.

Eventually.

Attached: star_ocean__first_departure_r__art_4.jpg (585x917, 56K)

You having a giggle m8? If you use heavy attacks all the time monsters will just casually move out of the way. They're only good if the enemy is specifically standing still, which is when they'd block a normal.

Star Ocean is trash. It was a fluke that 2 was so good.

I dont understand Adray. I've leveled everyone up to post game and he was ungodly bad. His best spammable move was the generic Aerial whatdafug

Never, this is the closest thing you're gonna get.

Attached: 1553763243946.webm (720x960, 2.62M)

A mage fighter was cool in concept, the problem is that magic in SO3 fucking sucks.
It's not nearly as bad on him since he doesn't have to charge up the spells, but it still sucks.

God I wanna marry Arche

I bet she fucks like a tiger

So I've heard.

Attached: sarena.png (540x384, 269K)

>2
>the best

wow, are you guys retards that didn't get the combat?

He's actually pretty decent if you trigger the cutscene that makes him available in Disc 1. All enemies at that point have low MP and he is a great MP killer.

But they ruined the look of the character with the remake

That peice of shit? The only "good" thing about the mobile game is the 3d model waifus with various costumes. Outside of just fapping to the girls acting sexy, the game has zero going for it.
Horrible story, horrible mechanics, horrible grind.

are you that faggot who thinks SO2 is the best

>the worst

he's actually one of the better characters in the game

yeah, pretty much
what, you don't honestly believe 3 is the best

do you?
probably because they didn't want to use the character art from the guy who immediately made several lewd doujins after the game released

Second Story still exists, you don't have to play Second Evolution unless you really like Welch

I honestly like that it's three because your shoulder buttons are easily mapped to characters

SO2 is literally the best in the entire series

2 > psp 1 > psp 2 = 1 > 4 > power gap > 3

haven't played blue sphere and barely touched 5 so I can't comment on em

nah magic in SO3 is the best in the series, the problem is that Adray sucks at it

>Horrible story

The story is better than 4 or 5.

spamming X isn't the best in the game user

Nothing, it was excellent for its time and very fun.
Even now, Maria is mai waifu and I love her until the end of time.

Attached: 20067619_p0.jpg (887x1200, 617K)

and what's the best game, user

if you say 3 I'm gonna laugh at you

Attached: 1543730834616.jpg (2000x2000, 1.26M)

combat-wise? yes

I mean, it wouldn't surprise me considering you complain about MP death

I didn't know that, and yet I wouldn't be surprised if I've... "read" them.

It was so widely hated that all the releases after took place before SO3 to avoid confronting it at any capacity and the gacha acknowledges it only briefly by shock by the mascot for a gag.

he goes by minato koio
combat-wise, SO3 is genuinely the worst
you spam sidekick and win

I cherish Bride Maria deeply!

Attached: 63491447_p0.jpg (824x1059, 433K)

>spam side kick
>gets AAA

it's been proven that the people who spout these are memers who never touched the game

you are a retard if that's what your take in the ending

you'd think that a franchise that dealt with megalomaniacs would understand that the whole shit was about an omnicidial higher being but with scifi flavor

>muh claude and rena

oh wait nvm

Good.

Attached: Da56_23VAAU4jZK.jpg orig.jpg (1300x1800, 160K)

I actually fucking wept when we actually have a gun user who uses projectiles for normal attacks (with no retarded conditions like "must be airborne") for the first time

Ohhh yeah those are the ones, damn good too.

Would that make it official SO2 porn?

I mean, it's as official as it can be without having enix/tri-ace approval

that's not how "official" works

Smoothbrains can't wrap their pleb minds around the superior combat either. SO3 is just a high IQ game all around.

could you explain how it was the worst combat? because it's easily the most flexible of the series

>superior combat
Don't act like you can't spam killer moves in this game just like the others.

Its slow

the only time you get to spam ez-killer moves is at post game when you get Maria's best move

>MUH SIDE KICK

is actually a meme, since people never mention their attacks getting AAA.

You can find a bunch of candy wrappers in the trash can and make fun of her for eating that way on vacation. I always assumed you were supposed to put 2 and 2 together and realize she can't actually button the top button of her pants.
A lot of the fun I had with this game was handicapping myself and using crafting to make really stupid ideas (melee Sophia) somewhat powerful.

Attached: Xmas00.jpg (500x709, 84K)

nigga what

4 is slower than that and 2 for that matter, 3 has literally no cutscene attacks

4 feels faster to me
that could just be because the standard combo in 4 is three hits as opposed to 3's two hits

whoops forgot my post

Sophia is actually a viable melee user

3 has no "standard" combo because everyone's attacks are different

>getting AAA
You act like AAA is a big deal when you can set killer moves to heavy or just break their guard.

...you don't understand why side kick is a meme don't you? please tell me you approached the game like SO2's literally press one button combat?

She looks like she fucks like a tiger.

I beat the game ages ago. I know all about the cancelling.

Nothing. Based game with best boy.
the story was pretty shitty after leaving elicoor and the dictionary unironically went into details about much more interesting stuff than the actual game

Attached: AlbelNox.png (1024x1024, 435K)

Tri-ace salvaged and made FF13 saga fun to play.

then you know why the "just use hard attacks man" is bullshit

No since I used heavy attacks to break their fury guard as intended by the game?

So Star Ocean 6 is going to be good unlike 3, 4, and 5, right?

Attached: 1543732977235.jpg (400x400, 36K)

no

then you are not spamming

this time for sure, user

I think you mean second best. Twin Eclipse was fucking good though, I'll admit.

Attached: MZS41lPZpYwzYXsV.webm (720x960, 1.35M)

>implying it'll even happen

64 bit killed this game for me till my new device arrives.

Is the valkyrie profile event canon?

Hit me up with the Rena swimsuit webms.

it's the closest thing we're getting to a new VP game so sure why not

hey now, 4 was... good! by star ocean standards.

ehhhhhhh

I mean the combat was fun

Attached: Vs059LXXCHCZEir-.webm (720x960, 1.32M)

give us precis

Attached: FyRRD_XjSJm6qwqj.webm (720x1280, 1.25M)

Only correct option.
>Edgy McEdgelord
>shota furry
>even once
Sophia can cry herself to sleep listening to you ram Nel's fat ass in the next room, she had years to make a move.

Attached: 1504951439177.jpg (1024x576, 51K)

I mean it gets points for literally calling its main character EDGE MAVERICK but outside of that it's awful

MUH
FUCKING
NIGGA
WE MEET AT LAST

Attached: 1504669768151.jpg (362x447, 62K)

based

Good, you help Adray make sure the bloodline gets carried. None of that lesbian fantasies for Clair.

So it's not good? it seems you guys just like the characters but not the game itself.

Attached: 1563312066541.jpg (720x687, 27K)

The game's plenty solid. A good 120 hours of fun. But it's an RPG. The characters make the experience.

Attached: 4306562.png (600x584, 304K)

Agreed on all fronts. Did you ever think the demonoid entry you got from that blacksmith guy was also applicable to Albel?

Attached: 1429170427364.jpg (600x600, 305K)

The in-game encyclopedia was my favorite part of this game.

Attached: IGhPcjxTe6lxhahs.webm (590x1280, 1.09M)

I looked up this porn because of this picture and was pretty disappointed. She is MUCH uglier from any other angle.

Oh jesus I remember that now.
Still, as stupid as that is at least it's not Fore Shadowing aka FAYT LEINGOD fucking christ.

what gatcha is this?

4, at the very least, was a full length title. 5 sounded so good on paper, but failed so hard.

Star ocean anamnesis

Attached: wd2U_hXj-xFUrA0p.webm (720x960, 801K)

>opening shows promise of cool space travel
>game is 2 discs long and you spend 75% of it stuck on a primitive planet

Attached: wait a minute.png (512x512, 228K)

ty

Fuck you.
4 was complete trash.
The only good thing that came out of the game was Meracle and her cameltoe

Whats fucked up is it the mobile game is the one that literally has the most space travely shit. It's objectively also a better game than 4 and 5

They put Jack and Wild BITCH in star ocean so they acknowledge it existing still.

How do I into the combat system?

AIR......RAID

The elves with the downturned ears really did it for me.
I don't remember a single other thing about the game.

>pericci, millie, phia, welch
>rena, precis, opera, chisato, celine, welch
>peppita or whatever the fuck, welch
>reimi, meracle, titty wizard, welch

how come star ocean 2 has the most best girls

SIDE KICK

Good question

Attached: C5yw3ZTU8AIGJqz.jpg orig.jpg (658x900, 80K)

>star ocean 2
>Welch

PSPFAGS BEGONE

Attached: 1433134769260.jpg (313x382, 93K)

she still counts as in the game because of the psp port
tfw didn't even know chisato existed because she wasn't in the ps1 manual

Because they had soul

Attached: 1553413321488.jpg (800x600, 394K)

god I love ashton so much

Attached: 1552894057105.webm (720x1280, 2.86M)

>one sword
what's going on
that's not the ashton I know and love

That's Ashton in the Defender class. As with other gacha that feature multiple versions of the same character SOA will sometimes put them in different classes.

Attached: 1547153702086.webm (718x1280, 778K)

Opera is better.

Attached: 1561414648083.jpg (960x720, 185K)

Opera doesn't have dragons on her back. Your argument is invalid. Ashton sold me on SO2.

Attached: 1542377648062.jpg (640x549, 71K)

one of opera's best weapons early on forces you to get earnest

a double edged sword
I still have trouble choosing between opera and ashton though

The beginning of the game felt like one long sidequest. I never got off of the first primitive star trek planet, it just felt like a chore

Gyoro ain't no duel wielding bitch.

Show his rush damn it.