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Sup Yea Forums,
I love space games, more particularly those who are peak comfy. Never played any RTS games, I'm a complete neophyte to the strategy genre and I was wondering if Stellaris would be a good entry point.
If so, which version to buy? Is the base game good enough, should I get the starter pack, or maybe some individual dlcs?
Thank you in advance!
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Kill yourself
Wait for a sale, then buy all major expansions, like synthetic dawn, leviathan, utopia, apocalypse, megacorp, etc. Then mod it using steam workshop
Sins of a Solar empire is better and cheaper.
Utopia is prob the better dlc, but get all of them on sale if you can.
This. Wait until Stellaris is done with its (((expansions))) then pirate it.
Sin of solar empire has shitty mod support
>Wait till it's done with its overpriced expansions
Considering it's Paradox we are talking about we might as well wait till the heat death of the universe
If you have powerful PC, then get stellaris and download 40k. Mod
Or just play any of the actually good space-themed strategy games like SMAC, Sins of a Solar Empire, GalCiv, and Master of Orion 1/2.
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>do this every time :youtube.com
feels good man.
Buy the base game and then pirate all the DLCs
Get the base game and use creamapi and the dlc files from rin ru if you require them (if they aren't merged with the normal game depot)
It's genuinely garbage right now to the point I'd consider it borderline scam territory. The AI is completely broken,even if you're an MPfag it still ruins it (because you still get AI empires in MP)
This, never pay for Paradox DLC
I just started playing and I'm enjoying it a lot. Care to elaborate on the AI?
Sins is a shit game
It can't handle the game at all since they changed the economy, you will steamroll the AI at even the highest difficulties. Because it's also a Paradox game it means once you beat one or two AI opponents you've already won the game without doing anything.
The most recent update cycles conducted major changes to how planets handle space, population, and resource collection/processing. Previously each planet had a number of tiles between ~6 and 25, each of which could host a single pop and some number of resources to gather (either in raw form or able to be boosted by building a given resource-collecting building there).
The current system has moved to a much more abstract (and thus accurate) model, but the AI has not been fully balanced to manage this properly, leading to large-scale economic mismanagement; generally they can prop themselves up until being thrashed by a player once, at which point they can't really rebuild.
Pirate the DLC
Frankly even before the changes to planets the AI barely held planets together and only got by through their cheated resources.
Soundtrack, art and "world building" all look nice but these games are meaningless without decent AI.
Galactic Civilizations 3 had pretty decent AI when I did a few games of it. But strategy games live or die on their AI and I'm sick of playing games and beating some opponents, and realizing my victory is inevitable so I want to stop playing but feel like i've wasted my time if I don't finish it.
Don't do that, just pirate this paradox garbage
How does it have shitty mod support? There's full conversion stuff like Star Wars and Halo.
Paradox games are generally shit because of their dlc practices. I would avoid them if I were you.
Quite possibly the worst scifi/space game I've played in my life. Also a mismanaged scam of cut features and ill-thought-out additions. Don't even bother pirating. It's a waste of time and disk space.
Gotta keep funding more free patches no one likes that completely change the entire game so much you might as well not call it the same game.
>Wait until Stellaris is done with its (((expansions))
pic related
Aurora 4X seems way deeper. Too bad I don't have enough autism to design the spaceships. The engine, the fuel type, the layout, etc.
Don't buy Stellaris, the only good thing about it right now is the music.
So game is even worse than its used to be and it wasn't good in first place.
shame but as expected from swedes
Buy the game, and pirate the DLCs, or just pirate the entire fucking thing.
>scourge shows up and ruins everything I’ve created
FUCK YOU EYE BALLING MOTHER FUCKERS
basically this
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Hijacking this thread. Has anyone tried Void destroyer 2 ? I'm waiting on Rebel Galaxy Outlaw but I'm looking for a good space game in the meanwhile. Is Star Sector good ? Id prefer a 3D space game...
Aurora has depth in customization but the AI is a lot more retarded than Stellaris.
SS is about the only good combat based space game to be made in quite awhile. I think it'd be about done next year if not 2021.
No 40k mod, therefore stellaris wins
And how will you get mods from steam workshop if you pirates stellaris
yes but everyone who played the conversion mod says it's a brocken mess
I personally go to stellaris.smods.ru
buy everything except megacorps
>The current system has moved to a much more abstract (and thus accurate) model
there is something more abstract than tiles representing a planet where you can run out of building or living space retardedly easily?
stellaris is bad no matter what mod you slather over it, therefore it loses in any case.
current planet system is a straight upgrade from the shitty tile system
Avoid it like a plague the recent 2.2 update effectively broke the game AI and this has to be yet fixed.
Worse yet the 2.2 update straight up goes against the games engine as it forces you to spam an ungodly amount of pops in mid to late game. We are talking around 2k-3k pops as baseline on a medium sized map. Multiply this by 5(if you play against 4 other AIs) and the game becomes a stutter fest of epic proportions where one click of a mouse takes 2 whole seconds to register. Same shit with ships and fleets.
The game engine straight up cannot handle the amount of pops and ships that the game ultimately expect you to have and thus far paradox has done little to remedy this. The fact that the game is about 50% unfinished and half implemented mechanics(even with all the dlc and 10+ mods) is just cherry on top.
>endless space 2 is the better game
>everyone plays stellaris instead
Why so?
Nigger
>stellaris actually had a good trailer
What the fuck
Endless space is all charm and no substance
I still bought it cause it's a lot of fucking charm tho
Which is why Endless Space wins. Atleast it has that charm, Stellaris has neither charm nor depth.
>which version to buy
Distant Worlds: Universe.
Don't you have to be legitimately autistic to enjoy that?
Nah. You can choose to fully or partially or not at all automate anything and everything, so it scales super well to just about any level of play.
Can automate nothing and pause constantly and basically treat it like a standard 4x, or you can automate everything and control a single ship, or anything in between.
It has better solar system management
I enjoyed Stellaris a lot, but the game typicly plays the same.
Explore, get resources, tech up, build fleet and then it's just different text flavour for buildings/goverments etc.
MegaCorp was kinda fun and so was Synthetic dawn at release but they need do more shit like proper bio-organic ships, more ways to make you feel different from other factions than just ship colours.
Stellaris lets me live out my perfect space fantasy of being a benevolent precursors species that looks down on the little pre-spaceflight shits with love, protecting them and nurturing them in a hostile galaxy.
Cheat, and go on a power trip across the galaxy purging xenos and obliterating planets
if you want comfy space game and aren't afraid of eurojank get X4 foundations
Will x4 allow me to pilot over 10km dreadnought?
I find Distant Worlds Universe is a good balance, has depth while still being playable for a brainlet like me.
Play Homeworld series instead.
Can I create my own race of white people only like a lost colony, and conquer the Earth back?
You have European phenotypes mod, that removes niggers
maybe not 10km but around 2km
Play GalCIv2 instead
Then it's shit. I require a space sim that would allow me to command and walk around a vessel that is at least 15 km long