Vampires don't have sex

>Vampires don't have sex
>Vampire has sex
???

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They dont have a sex drive but they can still have sex.

It's not that they can't. It's that they have to force it to feel anything. Dudes have to consciously keep their boner full with blood control.

Rape is always fun

Sex isn't really stimulating for them, but they can still have sex.

Have sex.

Did the people who wrote the Masqurade roleplaying game completely ignore the fact that Dracula would also rape the women he fed on?

They don't take any pleasure from it, so they only do it for two reasons:
>manipulate mortals
>be such a bugshit insane roastie in life that you can't stop reflexively rutting everything in sight even after your literal death

feeding is sex to them

>Sex means nothing to them and is a pain in the ass to do on top of giving someone the suck being 1000x more enjoyable
>lol lets have a vampire slut in our game
Fanservice is a hell of a drug

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THIS VAMPIRE
HAS HAD SEX
WITH MEN!

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Can vampires have babies

Dracula is treated as a legend/myth. He was a vampire on a completely different level, if he even existed or was even just one person.

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God I wish vampires were real

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Why not just do both?

What's the more tired and pointless argument:
>do vampires like sex?
>should you play malk first playthrough?
If there was ever Yea Forumstmb bingo, one of those would be the middle square.

I mean they do.

VTMB's opening even implies as much.

The first one definitely, the second one is atleast a bit subjective but the first one can easily be answered by going to the world of darkness wiki

Wherever you found this, it's not canon. The question was clarified in a long letter years back

It's probably because that's an inherently dumb idea that seems pretty contrarian to the appeal of being a vampire, which is ironically the reason the VMRPG exists.
Sometimes, just being damned to go to hell if you die and being unable to walk in the sun is just fine, if you stack every single limitation including posthumous erectile dysfunction like some vampire iterations you basically kill any interest in exploring the idea of being a vampire.

>Being a vampire
>Not slaying vampires.

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Same reason I ignore the stupid idea that every night vampires in Masquerade revert to exactly how they looked the moment of their embrace. Doesn't make any logical sense and seems like a completely arbitrary restriction.

Thin-bloods (vampires of the 14th and 15th generation) can sometimes have children, which are born as dhampirs, half vampires. Vampires with full-strength vitae are infertile. A pregnant woman who becomes Embraced will have a spontaneous abortion.

>t. Has never read dracula.
Not saying there isnt fuck tons of innuendo of that flavor in the novel but its not the same

It's from the first couple pages of the V20 rulebook you retard

dracula is a high level tzmisice

She still has a hole

Give ME sex WITH Damsel!

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Vampire: The Masquerade -- 20th Anniversary Edition Core Rulebook page 9.

that was a fun game

Well he raped in the Keanu movie and nowhere in any media has it been stated that Dracula didn't at some point fuck his wives.

For all you dumb autists:

Vampire can have sex, but they mostly don't. The kiss (as in, the non-harmful version of their bite) produces a feeling akin to orgasming except much more potent to BOTH the one biting and the person getting bit.

It's like, imagine you have a 10/10 GF who lets you do vaginal, anal and oral, as well as titfucks, assjobs, whatever you like. At any time. Would you then go 'nah I'm just gonna jerk off instead'?
In short, anyone who says 'no but jeanette totally fucked the MC haha' is just a retarded waifufag who wants to pretend their fetishes are canon.
t. someone who actually played the tabletop even before the game released.

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How about any long post about how you can't just stack non-combat stats and expect to get through the game with chat boxes and non-lethal abilities?

the game goes out of its way to explain why Jeanette has sex, it's 100% a psycological thing for her. not needed, not desired.

That's basically just saying "My fangs are my cock now". Bravo Masquerade writers!

Then explain why the player character wants to have sex with her?

>My fangs are my cock now

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The player was only recently Embraced and would therefore still retain most of his human impulses and desires.

It's also pretty gay because you're fucking what you eat.

>People getting upset and defensive about how sex works for vampires in a video game
But it's all fake though

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But mixing sex and food is my fetish

I think there's a Vampire who can now get Vitae from sex so he doesn't need to drink blood.

Would you want to play as male character that has been castrated?

>According to a Toreador legend, being amongst the mortals, Caine noticed a couple who were very much in love. Seeing their love amplified his own loneliness and sin. After having dwelt on his sin for an eon, Caine thought that maybe he could reconcile something in his nature by Embracing them with the gift of immortality, so that their love would live for all eternity. However, after having been Embraced, the lovers discovered that they could not have children together. In an act of despair, they both walked into the sunlight to their Final Death. Caine was so heartbroken over the event that he forbade anyone to speak their names. Thus, their names were lost to history.

What the fuck Caine.

He just said they can have sex.
And Dracula is a strong tzimisce so he's probably got a lot of blood to spare on boners.

No but it's like, vampires are fake anyway it's not like they have to follow the same rules and they work in whatever way the piece of fiction your currently reading says they work. I hate when people overthink this stuff.

Toreador:
>I've got a huge dick, want to have sex?
Tzimisce:
>You only have one penii?

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its like you didnt even read that horrible beckett book where he has passionate disgusting vampire sex

That's the price of immortality, user. You thought this vampire shit was a joke?

>They can but mostly don't
That implies that they mostly don't. I think the issue here is that human psychology, especially in men, views sex as a major backing for the concept of "power" right next to dominance. By downplaying that, the idea of what vampires are trying to achieve outside of blood (Which is pretty much food, super power fuel aside) is kind of lost.

Basically, it's hard to conceptualize the idea of being a vampire vying for power in the world if sex is cut from the list of benifits from having power. It might go down to blood autism, but since that's basically just food it's not interesting.

>official rulebook
>not canon

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Immortality with the addition of having to eat other humans is meant to be a curse, everything else is just padding for the existential problems arising from it.
Immortality as a human wish is just a wish for more time, if not all the time, to do things. Strip away too many things, or points of doing things and you have nothing.

i agree but in this case, what i remember from bjd dracula might be obsessed with the power and dominance associated with a relationship specifically, there was a part about how he has male brides but he calls them brides still because he likes being the man in control
so yea they mostly dont but he may have a fetish for it or something

>fuck the cammy
>we can behave ourselves just fine with common sence
I can’t believe anyone could unironically go with the anarchs and their daddy issues.

>Did guy who made retarded game ignore thing from book?
I think you answered your own question.

weird the impression i got from the game was that sex was technically possible but male vampires were incapable of getting hard because they're dead

i thought i remembered some line from velvet or jeanette or someone about how the protagonist might not be able to get an erection but that there was "other fun stuff we can do"

I think I found the solution to that birthing crisis we're having

>Calling people dumb autists
>Proceeds to sperg out
>Then titles it with t.autist
I wish

well, the real reason is probably something like "they said it to be funny and didnt really care about how it works" but through the lens of the lore maybe it takes some skill to know how to send your blood to the penis and the fledgling is well, a fledgling

Not all autists are born equal

>basically just food it's not interesting.
>basically just food it's not interesting.

>Jack: Alright, check this out. Blood, its your new rack of lamb, your new champagne, hell, its your new fucking heroin kid. Get ready though, because hey, its never as sweet as the first time
>Vitae (BLOOD) is the primal essence and energy of the Cainites, and also, their source of immeasurable pleasure.
>Using his or her Blood, a vampire may will himself or herself to appear more human for some time: flushing his or her skin, drawing breath, even becoming capable of engaging in sexual intercourse which, while helpful in certain types of feeding


Blood is 90% of what vampires care about; Without it they are useless.

I want the plot of Itadaki Seieki to appear in World of Darkness

Blood is also easy to get, sex (or rather, sex with desirable partners) isn't.

>sex with desirable partners isn't easy
>Domination,Presence
>Vicissitude increasing appearance permanently)
>Mask of a thousand faces (Obfuscate)
>Implying anyone but a Toreador would even give a fuck about sex
Yeah, no...

I gotta say, I honestly enjoyed my playthrough of this game as a gun slinging Toreador thot. That shit was pretty funny.

yes the toreador dialogue is one of my favorites. especially when velvet tears up the manuscript and you can start crying about it

Dracula is different in that he would say:
>Hold my dick, I'm gonna fuck my other wife
and then he'd wink at his servants

If you're a vampire, why would a human be a desirable partner?

Hunter is one of the few occasions where the New World of Darkness version is so much better than the old.
Same with Werewolf.

Because sometimes you want the big penis to become the little penis, and then you jam it in her and make her squirm, because that's what gets you off now

ECO-TERRORIST WEREWOLVES

Hunter The Vigil 2nd edition never.

Dracula is rife with sexual innuendo not because Dracula was actually having sex or raping women but because he was a representative of promiscuity and vice in a Victorian setting.

Don't forget the militant feminist werewolves too.

Never stick your dick in a commie. Not even once, user.

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I think Werewolf: the Apocalypse is really underrated. Yes, they are eco-terrorists, but in their position can you blame them?

I thought vampires couldn't change their physical appearance, because their hair and stuff goes back to what it looks like at the time of their embrace. Seems like the books took a lot of the good characters from the game and shit on them.

He's real and, what, a 5th Gen Tzmisice or however it's spelt. Basically forced one to embrace him and I think may have diablerised another? Can't remember exactly.

based

The only thing Apocalypse has over Forsaken is the other, non-werewolf shapeshifters. Street sharks are awesome and Forsaken doesn't have anything like that.

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I prefer the sexy spider women.

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Dracula himself is cold, ugly and socially autistic (the handsome suave smooth-talking thing was created by Luga Belosi for his 1930 film). He doesn't have any particular preference for pure women either.
The only sexual thing in the novel is that he is largely an embodiment of disease and its transmission, and the novel was written at a time when people started to understand STD. Even then he's more tuberculosis than gonorrhea.

this Dracula guy sounds a lot like Dio Brando

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>Dude he was ugly
Yes, and that detracts from the rape how?

At this point, what hasn't shallow political pandering ruined?

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wow that taskes me back

>Great series with a corny, but cool, story.
>It's spread across three entirely different platforms.

My edgy teenage self always loved the Corax. It was selfish, but the only time I ever tolerated crossplay was so that I could play a wereraven in a vampire game.

It's all 5th edition, which is universally regarded as shit. That shits on everything about the setting.