Forced 2-2-2 meta

Can you switch role mid game? Do you have to trade with someone?

You can switch after every round but I assume someone has to lock off of it since that would destroy the whole point of reserving your position. You're going to have to actually talk with your team here.

>Should we redesign our maps so that every game doesn't turn into two brick walls trying to push the other off the capture point?
>No, it's the players who are wrong.

i was probably playing something else when it came out

People are just going to play Widow and Hanzo for those 2 forced DPS roles because getting close as a DPS is still suicide when every tank hits as hard, has 3x your HP and some utility on top of that. That’s been true for such a long time and Blizzard just refuses to address the central problem.

>the players aren't wrong
you have to manually lift up your eyelids if you want to see my friend

Imagine being so shit at balancing your game you have to force your players to pick certain heroes. Imagine if LoL or DotA did that, they made a role totally useless like S8 ADC in LoL then straight up forced players to keep playing it instead of running a carry mage or 2 supports instead (which is what people did).

>addressing players lack of control
I don't think they have enough money to send enough people into players houses to slap their shit so they can stop being retarded bro

Another win for Chaddleborn

I'm imagining it
why isn't this shit real bros its not fucking fair. I'd actually play dota again if they did this what the FUCK gabe.

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Are you shitposting or do you seriously think players are running 3 tank 3 support for YEARS now because they just don’t understand how good DPS is?

I THINK
you're retarded for disagreeing with me

If people are avoiding certain characters or roles because they are not fun then the correct response is not 'fuck you play the role'

This is the exact kind of shit that made me avoid QP for like most of a year. I just hopped into DM until I stopped playing completely in like january.

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ADC was never useless lolbabs are just hysterical faggots

You never *had* to pick tank. You're just too obsessed with having a "proper" team composition to ever break from your precious mental image of a meta-friendly pick.

Play what you want and stop bitching

How about neither. I play newer games that aren't fucking designed to be a skinnerbox.
It's funny how shit Overwatch is, but got a pass due to advertising and presentation

Mystery heros is good because it's like "fuck you, win the game". When you do it against all odds, it's good.

>2 healers
>soldier can heal
>anna can attack
>2 tanks
>1 good tank and 3 DPS can do just as much
>NOT BEING ABLE TO SWITCH CHARACTERS MID GAME
>ONCE THE META IS LEARNED YOUR STRATEGY IS FUCKED

>2)stop queuing solo
and face 10-20+ minutes of queue because parties can only fight parties and no one who likes real teamwork likes Overwatch

It gets even dumber than that

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also ults are removed if you die which makes ults feel like they're a measure of skill

ADCs just didn’t want to learn the matchup.

>implying faggots will pick anything other than Hanzo/Genji like faggots

its the best change they've made to overwatch
you can now play what you want

The hero that bested the balancing team

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Incompetent DPS mains may collectively eat shit. MMOs are one thing, but in Overwatch all they do is feed the enemy while tanks and healers play objectives

Unless what you want changes according to the circumstances

this is the stupidest fuckign shit I've ever seen.full team of tanks or 5 squishies was the coolest thing to fight with, or against.

>if players change roles between maps they will switch seats

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surprised it took this long, it was clear from the start blizzard didn't know how to design this game properly and they have a history of just giving up on trying to fix things that and taking the easiest way out

I made that just for you

>you never had to pick a tank
>play what you want

trust me I'm the biggest meta hipster ever but this shit is just not fun. You can play what you want but it wont be fun at all. 2-2-2 is FUN. Stop having FAKE fun by picking what you want.

>if players change roles between maps they will change seats
This is inconceivably autistic.

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It's not fun playing meta bullshit but trying to play with a bunch of fucking monkeys who pick 4 damage dealers and roadhog is even worse.

>you now have to request to switch seats with another player

>good at 2-3 characters from each category
>mediocre to terrible at the rest of the cast
>can never again fulfill my flex potential
was already taking a break but this is it lads

It was ruined when they removed multi pick.

>autists who take competitive super duper serious in games as if it's your professional career when your rank literally means nothing

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They took esports so seriously they became slave to their meta. Depressing, really.

How do you make a class based game and not understand that people like to have mains?

>Play what you want
>get reported
>40 dollars stolen

I hate this game. I have never played it but just from watching it I can tell I would be way to good for it and out class everyone

>do you know the story of Darth Blizzard the wise?

N to the I to the G to the G to the E to the R

>when a game is so solved that you have fundamentally change how teams are made

still not regretting quitting 3 years ago

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later tonight:
>Report: ActiBlizz cancels Blizzcon due to lack of funding and support, stocks drop even further

2-2-2 is the key to removing this meme shit
I really like how gjeoff btfo everyone by calling it that gamers just don't like change and they need to shut the fuck up. Based gheoff.

If you don't like just play quickplay. Fucking plebs stop trying to ruin my game.

>AFTER every ROUND
>I ASSUME
fuck off

>Where were you when Blizzard killed Overwatch?
No idea man, I can't remember where I exactly I was 3 years ago.

I see they finally gave up on balancing the game.
Glad I dropped it a few months after it came out, I could see the writing on the wall already and even by then it was growing dull.
At this point they can only hope Overwatch 2 is real to try and get another cash boost

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Jeff Kaplan? I thought not. It’s not a story Blizzard would tell you. It’s an Overwatch legend. Jeff Kaplan was a Game Director at Blizzard, so obsessed and so wise he could influence his company to force esports... He had such a knowledge of game design that he could even keep the games he cared about from dying. The director side of game development is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unethical. He became so obsessed… the only thing he was afraid of was losing the esports crowd, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he forced a meta, then his meta killed his game. Ironic. He could save other games death, but not his own.

Playing Pathfinder Kingmaker and a slew of outright better games. My only regret was that I was not playing TF2.

Post >yfw you never bought or played overbotched

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>wtf blizz it takes forever to get into games now
it wont last

I like the changes.

I'll give it a try. At this point, I'll take anything Blizz gives to keep me interested in their game.

wrong

>not playing 5tank2healer god comp

>Where were you when Blizzard killed Overwatch?
It was a few years ago I think, when they first showed off the beta and it had a tickrate of 20. I believe I was shitposting on this board.
Then the game became your typical RESPECT WAHMEN faggotbucket and I disregarded it. Any game that demands you respect wahmen is going to be complete shit.

>buying Overwatch
basically means your a soiboi bugman who is a cuck to advertising and waifus
what a fucking garbage game since beta

And some people like fucking kids. Liking OW is the equivalent to being a pedo. Kys

I bought it on release and enjoyed it for like half a year. played qp exclusively because dont care about ranked shit. eventually qp got flooded with ranked fags who came there just to throw games and you couldnt complain because "its just qp lol". fuck conpetitive niggers for turning a fun hero shooter into an unfun wank no one wants to play.

An acquaintance told me this interesting story of a man who was getting into rope bondage. With his partner they came up with the absolutely genius idea of suspending him by his erect cock. This naturally had 0 repercussions especially for what amounts to novice rope enthusiasts. I'll leave the rest to your imagination but IIRC, extremities that are cut cleanly have a significantly better chance of reattachment than say, it being outright ripped off.The kicker was that said partner was not the man's wife. He was cheating on her. Not even sure if this is a good comparison now that I've typed it out, but it does feel like a fairly similar level of stupidity being implemented here.

Listening to tumblrtwats and turning your game into a nanny-state is the absolute perfect way of killing it swiftly and without remorse.

They'vre been killing it almost as long as it's been out

Not a single person there has any clue of what to do with the game, no grand vision whatsoever

All this is is blizzard trying, and mostly failing, to address a few problems that have plagued OW for years. Part of it is that the most powerful heroes tend to be the most boring ones. Right now if your team doesn't have an Orisa and the enemy does then you just outright fucking lose. Part of it is that tanks are just better DPS heroes in 90% of circumstances and instead of reworking the entire roster they'd rather just force 2-2-2. Part of it is that 1 tricks are fucking annoying and there's more DPS players who won't/can't flex than any other role.

Ya'know what's dead with these changes and I'm fucking glad for? That 20-30% of games where four players instalock DPS, typically Hanzo, Genji, Widow, and whatever else, the fifth goes Ana because someone has to heal these fucks, and the sixth is just fucked because nothing they pick can salvage the team comp. Bonus points if after the first round the gold for elims on your team is less than three. Double if one of the DPS players starts telling other people to switch or blaming anyone else for losing, especially if it's Ana or the sixth player.

this wouldn't be a fucking issue if there was atleast 2 more people on a team.

6v6 is retarded even in TF2

Knew it was screwed when I saw how forced the team roles were. Calling it a shooter is a joke.

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>team-based games
when will this meme fucking die, im dead tired of it

Why do people still play this garbage? Blizzard is notorious for shoving what it wants down players' throats, treating them like little more than paypiggies forced to do as Blizzard says, telling them exactly how every game is to be played and destroying any other options, ignoring actual problems in a never-ending sprint to try and get one over on their own customers as many times as possible. It's disgusting, not just because Blizzard comes off as the corporate equivalent of a controlling sociopath but because people pay for the privilege. Why do people tolerate this?

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>6v6 is retarded even in TF2
you'll summon the spirit of b4nny and valve will update the game again, only to make it even worse, somehow

Mmmm yum yum I love cock

I said I assume as a joke to trigger you. Its 100% fact and they even said it in the video and PTR is up right now for you to look at you fucking sensitive snowflake.

qp was fun for casual playing
the game is really smooth, or atleast was really smooth its gotten worse and the server issues are fucking abysmal atleast on eu with 2-3 failed activations per game easily

>People up in arms about Blizzard having no fucking clue how to balance
>Post-beta which showed their cluelessness

You only have yourselves to blame, WoWcuks.

Posting an anime reaction image in a thread about a video game you've never played

>Yea Forums

OW players are known to enjoy STD ridden dicks

>friend bought it
>got to level 8 in an hour or two and quit
>gave me his account to play on
>I got to level 20 and quit back to TF2
dodget a bullet there

This fucking this
3 dps is shit

>ywn go back to the simple days in where you could play anyone you want since everyone was experimenting and a well placed bastion was your biggest worry
I mean I got out right around Orisa was added but I'm really sad Blizzard never kept the optional seasonal game modes permanent. They made it so the only other thing you could play other than QP and Brawl was Comp and after only 10 placement matches of CONSTANTLY playing Lucio and Zen with mostly okayish teammates I quit the game entirely. Oh yeah and arcade was a thing but good luck killing the other team in death match when they all picked snipers or in unlimited 6v6 with everybody picking one pain in the ass hero. I just wished they focused on actually expanding the game without constantly adding new heroes that dictated who would lock the dps character first or making interesting missions a limited time only.

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every game based around pugs that have roles like this require role queue as an option
there are no exceptions to this rule and the genre doesn't matter
the real question is, is having roles like this in the first place dog shit game design or not?

>play anything
>hardlock le Hanzo, le Genji, le Widowmaker

>if players change roles between maps they will switch seats
LMAO

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She's unironically the entire reason for this all

The point is in overwatch the role setup Blizzard wants to be effective isn't actually the most effective.

This game is unironically dead. I still play it with my friends for shitz n gigglez tho.

Just to trolls on the trannies

What if the team wants to run that garbage 3 tanks and 3 healers strat?

It's going to be like this for quickplay too that's the main issue with it.

People are looking too much at the details. The game is inheriantly flawed because:

1. It was originally suppose to ride off TF2's gameplay and success.
2. I wanted ALL the casuals.
3. But they wanted it to be an e-sport/serious tourney balance as well.

The only good thing that came out of that mess is the waifus. Otherwise it was doomed from the start because stacies arguing over using Mercy while thinking they're actually a serious thread in the tourney/e-sport portion of the game. Fucking hell, TF2 was heavily about screwing around til it got a bit shafted when people became more obsessed with hats then playing the game.

Not sure, I watched XQC tell everyone it's the best thing ever, that overwatch is finally being saved and everyone agreeing with him that it's about time, tho. And I sort of agree this is better. RIP DPS main que times tho, kek.

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If you didn't play Genji and raped everything to GM thanks to retarded GOATS feeding you perma ult then you're mentally disabled.

So your team was bad, and lost ? Checks out for me

Why yes I do one trick tank/support and always get an instant que pop. How could you tell?

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Literally using pewdiepie jokes while acting superior

>So how do we kill goats
>Hmm ... enforce 2/2/2 ?
>But we said we wouldn't do that
>And?
>True ... true.

This should've been the design at the start but OW devs are retards. They didn't understand mainfags are cancer and love to worship their "main" like cucks. They could've made rewards for flexing, but nope

>tank, dps, healer
>FPS game
lmfao

>blizzard cant balance classes so that any combination is balanced against any combination
shit devs to the end i see

name an online multiplayer game other chan counterstrike or starcraft that do this, at any point of a match

more e-sports bullshit turning the game into a job instead of something you play to have fun. it started off as this casual shooter and an evolution of TF2 and then they started chasing the e-sports dragon and sucked all the fun out of the game. and they wonder why the playerbase is so """toxic""". hopefully this is what finally kills this piece of shit.

chess

And I should do what? Que for a 24 player match in tf2m get natched in a 5 v 5 players, alot of who just leave when they see it's 5 v 5 and then repeat this for like 30 minutes untill I can actually get a 24 player game, if I find one in 30 minutes that is. And even then it might just end up being 5 snipers/spies on a team getting rolled by a decent team comp. Paladins's style just doesn't really rub me the right way, tf2 feels like a dry well alot of the time and overwatch feels unbalanced, guess I'll play overwatch since it's the one who has the most odds of changing something.

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is healing the worst concept to arrive in a FPS game? i straight up can't play this fucking shit game because healing is so fucking important and i just want to play a game where i get to shoot my opponents, not worry about healing my teammates, at least with tanking i feel more active with engaging my opponents

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>play tank: 7 choices
>play DPS: 16 choices
>play healer: 7 choices

lmao of course people want to play DPS. Not to mention people play a first person shooter to SHOOT things! Not to heal or "tank" whatever that's supposed to mean

you will be able to play non role que it in quickplay pls don't spread lies

Other than classic board games, but you got me good there, fag.

>Where were you when Blizzard killed Overwatch?
Not playing overwatch like a fag lmao

tetris online

BF 1942 got it right
Quake Champions is really balanced right now

Hard blackpill
Battleborn was a better game than OW

but the medic is fine

balanced around having under 500 concurrent players?

I was probably playing a good game or jacking off

thats like asking the impossible

why couldn't they just make a game that rewards mainfagging like tf2 instead of simultaneously punishing and encouraging it at the same time

OWL is sub 500 players and that is the hard meta for OW despite low levels not being able to fucking press Q or E

You should never main in anything. You're basically admitting to being a cuck who orbits a single entity

This is one of those games that has gotten worse with time, somehow.

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support is fun in overwatch tho. (apart from mercy) its just that dps has le parkour ninjas and snipers, witch you dont have in mobas

Everyone pick Winston

it's the blizzard rock star developer culture where they think they know better than the players. it's what lead to BfA. i don't think it helps they pretty much ignore 99% of the playerbase who just played the game and only cater to loud forum warriors and e-sports faggots.

are you retarded? video game characters aren't real life entities, I just choose to play them the most often because I like them the most

>somehow
>main draw was mainfaggotry and egoboosting via levels, POTG attenwhoring, and ez inclusive
ultimates
>half the characters didn't have headshot modifiers, no one could maintain extreme speed, everything was close to being fully automated, no skill ceiling beyond intermediate on intricate strategies
>not surprised when the dopamine levels wore off there wasn't an intricate game to appreciate and explore
Depth is the main reason MvC2 lived for so long despite everyone's mains being shit

I would have to assume that the kind of people who still play Blizz games today actually prefer it this way.

Literally the only reason to even still care about this game is Orisa and her big fat omnic booty. I want to conduct experiments and make Orisa the first robot to get pregnant.

I don't know, in my room 2 or 3 years ago I guess.

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Oh for fuck's sake Blizzard, how hard is it to say retards and noobs keep picking classes that fuck a team up the ass?

>Indeed! I do believe role lock is best for the health of the game and will significantly improve the competitive experience. Why do you ask?

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Why the fuck do they keep doing WoW mechanics into all their fucking games. They did it with Diablo 3 and now Blunderwatch.

>play Dirty Bomb where everything is 100% free because the devs gave up and just released everything
>fun despite jank
>medics are medics instead of dedicated healers and mostly heal by health pack drops or AOE moves
>no one wants to play
>cousins ask me to play Overwatch
>everyone rages on both teams
I can't believe I'm related to so many faggots

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>only cater to loud forum warriors and e-sports faggots.

That does sound like a tricky position for a developer desu. Which fans do you listen to? And don't pretend there isn't a wealth of moronic opinions here either.

Lmao i've been playing overwatch for 2 years, an i played a lot (i mean i was a fucking neet with nothing to do, i also played a lot of stuff but ow was my main game)
How can you shove that 2-2-2 down people throat with half of the characters being one role? 2-2-2 is ok and fun but fuck it they should stop releasing dps heroes and working on a balanced roster

CoX
Planetside 2
Hell even tf2 would qualify if they just deleted sniper

>if players change roles between maps they will switch seats
This is the change that will make competitive overwatch watchable.

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The problem is while the developers dont know what they are doing neither does the majority of the playerbase.

One should only listen to a qualified video game materialist to analyze the society and mechanics using proper dialectics.
Developers, like most humans, are fully lost to foolish beliefs and convictions which are simply not grounded in reality.

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Imagine fatasses like Seagull or whoever the fuck plays comp having to get off their ass and shuffle to a seat that already have a huge imprint on it by another fatass.
I bet their chairs stink to like that one fat kid who could wash his ass. He stank so bad the teacher started setting up our chairs before class so no one had to take his chair.

My nigga

the thing is they SHOULD know better than the players
on average the players of the game are both extremely bad and incredibly stupid, their suggestions are just going to be selfish, shortsighted, kneejerk emotional bullshit if youre taking the "majority opinion"

theyre just bad at their jobs, theres no way around it
listening to the community wont change that, itll just make them look even dumber

No, devs can not know better than the players because their perception of the game does not come from one of experiencing the playing of the game, but from all the behind the scenes things which are not themselves the pure game mechanics but tainted by questions of implementation and desires and visions for the game.

Developers are simply not working with the game that exists, they are working with the game they want to have. They implement systems and mechanics which allow for this vision to be possible and then, when people dont play to their vision, they get surprised.

Players however see the game as it is, and play to their own benefit. Yes, many players are bad, but the good players find the most optimal way to play the game as it is, and play it that way, and others follow.

The creator of a thing is never the most qualified person to evaluate it, it goes into all other things as well, not just video games, because their mind is cluttered by the creative process and this prevents them from seeing the thing as it exists.

The problem here is that you're right in the way they don't want you to be. People stop queueing solo - because they stop queuing at all.

rent-free

>make game about waifus
>dont let people play their waifu
This is also why mobas are shit

>But isn't brain size something that doesn't correlate with intelligence?
Bah it's cartoon logic what ever.
>Chad is bald because of his high testosterone levels.
Based.

>But isn't brain size something that doesn't correlate with intelligence?
This is smallhead propaganda

overwatch in and of itself is shitty game
>if one player is slacking you lose
>no one can carry because all heros are equally underpowered
meanwhile in literally any other teamshooters
>csgo I can clutch round after round through sheer skill
>rainbow six I can out gun my way out of most situations
>league or Dota I can get fed enough to kill the entire enemy team
>b-buh user they arent tean games like overwatch is!!!
yes they are dumb nigger I can have someone in csgo buy me guns, have teamates give callouts on cams in r6s or have teamates buff my carry in Dota or League

To be fair, this is better than banning for not following the meta.

Just played DB and carried my 6 man team with Phoenix because I can headshot with SMG and rez dead teammates due to being a combat medic

Citation needed.

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bigger brain bigger thoughts, its simple logic

>t. bloke who's got a forehead on him like a coffee table

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>Which fans do you listen to?
You listen to all and the measure against metrics.
Blizzard just cant make a decision on their own and at the same time forces everyone to play the game one way.
Its like they dont care anymore.

It has to be the most anti-fun way of enforcing "teamwork" I've seen in a game. It's almost impossible to carry like you said since it's just kind of your team's blob vs. the enemy blob over and over. Insane skill can maybe help you with characters like Widow or something but it's insanely rare to have something like 1 vs. 3+ to clutch and win the round, it just makes the game boring since you can just kind of feel the outcomes of matches most of the time since there's no extremes.

CSGO is one of the shittiest CS games and it's still way deeper than OW and requires way more teamwork

when I played the game it was right as it came out when things like genji/tracer could carry a game through sheer skill but then they realized that having only 2-3 heros that are powerful isnt fun so they decided to make everyone underpowered instead

>5000 hrs
>"not recommended"

I love the idea of complete freedom of choice of role. It was a great mentality for the devs to have and allowed for fluid hero choices that meant you could try all kinds of strategies.

The problem is that in practice, all it results in is the two people who actually are willing to flex having to try and work around the four fucking DPS players who all want to be epic ninja man and have no thought processes besides that. The value of freedom of choice is lost when that choice is removed by other people being selfish cunts.

>then you just be selfish too
Then what's the fucking point of a team based game?

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fake news. 3 tanks 3 healers havent been meta for the past month. anyone who still parrots that the meta is "solved" doesnt actually follow the game

man it would help if they gave more cc to tanks rather than giving them awkward damage alongside making HALF THE FUCKING ROSTER DPS characters

>attacks game based on the art instead of actual gameplay
off yourself nigger.
the wahmen thing didn't originate from pewdiepie. you're just exposing how much of a normie you are

I played some games with my friend until they proved themselves to be total autists tgat sperged at the latest thing in the game.
I want my 30$ back.

Overwatch is so fucking bad. TF2 is infinitely more fun despite being older.

>wahh blizzard is big corporation just trying to squeeze money out of you they don't care about the consoooomerrsss
>posts with tf2 image
>implying valve is any better
The community has been asking for a role queue for years. Blizzard didn't 'force' this upon the game

>Where were you when Blizzard killed Overwatch?
Are you talking about 2016 when they removed the ability to do a team of 6 of the same class?

most dont, they quit when they realized the game was shit. for me, that was after season 1 and a meta began.

this is true
this is false

blizzard said they're adding a "classic quickplay" mode in the arcade that doesnt have rolequeue though. Additionally, some of the arcade modes are going to have rolequeue, but they havent said which ones. probably stuff like capture the flag

goats was already dead though. this stage's overwatch league winners won without goats

>probably stuff like capture the flag
so it's playable now

Probably it's because they're designing the arena to have graphics on the table showing each role. That's the only reasonable explanation I could think of, anyway.

Who thought it was a good idea for the company most known for incompetent balancing to make a competitive shooter

there's a leak that the next hero is a tank

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if you can't carry then you're just bad lmao. just play widow and click heads

This will kill the game but I'm okay with this.

>in order to carry you have to play one specific character
>this is perfectly acceptable to some people
retarded overwatch fag

I wish I could play 6 Toblerones.

i was just using widow as an example. you can use most dps to carry with if you're good enough with them

I don't get it, what is GOATS in relation to Overwatch?

This is utter retardation of a massive scale
I mean, esports is esports and people watch it because they sympathize in the competitive spirit of it
Take away a player's input, the creativeness, the unusual things that make plays exciting and you wouldn't be seeing sports games
Jesus christ why can't they copy TI, one thing ASSFAGGOTS especially DoTA did right was the scene formed very organically and brought up without DEVELOPER inhibition

I'm done since a long time ago, but this is the time i can say i'm done following OW news.
Only porn it is.

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the cucked tanks need to block the alpha-chads playing dps from pounding their sissy support bois

Not like it's going to matter anyway since this game is so terribly designed that everyone is just going to pick the same meta team even with forced roles.

isnt overwatch the same game that had like 0 patches or changes to the meta for multiple seasons and thats why everyone left?

>ults ruin the entire game
>"we nerfed the charge by 12%"
ecks dee wow its fucking nothing lmao how are blizzard so inept just let the community dump and edit character kits already so we can fix this shit game

>You never *had* to pick tank. You're just too obsessed with having a "proper" team composition
Well, no. This is Overwatch. You lose if you don't have the right comp, because thats all the game is. Even if you don't get reported for not picking the right role, which you can and will be banned for. Playing what you want is not allowed.

overwatch was dead on arrival, soo yeah

thoughts about new hero?

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role queue is a thing in dota

Legitimately scared I got my roommates account banned. I was playing PTR and started praising and talking shit to the opponents and one got upset and started throwing. My teammate told me to shut up and he was going to report me for toxicity and causing drama even though my shittalk won us the match.

>que as tank/support
>your dps is hanzo/widow/torb
>on attack payload

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Hammond + 3 Dps + 2 Supp actually works just fine, silver shitter

Saved*

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it's a name for a team comp that uses 3 tanks (rein/zarya/dva) and 3 healers (lucio/brig)(3rd is variable)

it's a comp that's been meta for a long time, but isn't really meta anymore

yet another tank xD

clips.twitch.tv/EnthusiasticAbstruseMangetoutBudStar
but this time its bad guy

i like playing the game, but it's terrible and Blizzard is so fucking incompetent, it's amazing honestly.
just look at this summer event
barely anything and the skins are terrible and liveless.

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Overwatch has been dead for years, Blizzards just been fucking a corpse

autism and waifus, pro players play only for money, blizzard has invested something like 200 mil $ in Overwatch Esports, even if is fucking dead.

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people still play this?

>playing in german
>having umlaute in the name

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>hots was killed for this
fuck activision-blizzard

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>Where were you when Blizzard killed Overwatch?
What, you expect me to remember everything I did in 2016?

I played the initial free weekend and thought it was a shallow TF2 clone with waifus and barely any maps.

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that's what cucks want
shallowness with a small skill gap so they have a chance to win
waifus to beta orbit
and low maps so they don't have to learn maps

>Tanks and supports have less than half of the choices damage has
>LAWL MORE CHOICES FOR TANKS.SUPPORTS EX DEE
Well yes, that seems reasonable.

Weren't they were still making content for it tho, just slower?

>mfw tf2 outlasts overwatch

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the moment they realized the game was going to be 2-2-2 they should've prioritized healer/tank releases rather than a bunch of shitty DPS
I'm really glad Fortnite killed Overwatch because there is no role faggotry and they release a variety of tools that add to the skill based meta rather than take away from it (Brig and Doom)

>mfw they both die off and paladins doesn't interest meenough

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>quit the first time roadhog got remade (IE butchered) ages ago
>every change the game gets the game looks worse and worse
>roadhog's been remade like twice since then
>cucks who actually play the game are non stop screeching about brigette who I totally dodged
>watched THE ABSOLUTE MELTDOWN over the internet when mercy got remade, people literally writing suicide notes on twitter
>literally no change the game gets seems to be a good one

It's kind of fun to sit back and watch it burn down I guess. Does anyone on Yea Forums even play it anymore?

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Rarely but ya, FFA's fun, casual's "such and such" not amazing, not terrible. Ranked I don't bother touching.

>white male
fake

esports and overwatch just doesn't mix well. there is nothing exciting. its just the same stupid fucking meta game because blizzard can't balance for jack shit when it comes to PvP.

honestly surprised more people didn't see this coming considering how shit WoW PvP has always been since they introduced resilience and arenas in tbc

Terrible example, resiliance-based pvp was significantly better than vanilla wow pvp where everyone exploded instantly

Why play a game where you don't get to pick the playstyle and character you want and is full of money sucking pointless bullshit? In old multiplayer games you could play however you wanted and stupid shit like skins were either already part of the game at no extra charge or shit you and the fags on your favorite regular sever modded in. Seriously, why play this garbage? Why not just have fun rather than dick sucking some massive company and their esports boner?

My memory is hazy but Resiliance did fuck all to DoTs which made shit like Shadow Priest and Warlocks quite strong out the gate iirc.

What did all the remakes change?

>go in to match
>tanks are roadhog and orisa mains
>the opponents easily walk through our team with rein and dva

oh boy can't fucking wait for this shit to happen

skins were free, but maps costed money
fuck that shit

Warlocks were always retarded
>Drain Life
>Drain Life
>Drain Life
>Death Coil
>Drain Life
The true redpill is to accept that Blizzard is a shit developer that cannot handle PvP and has no idea what it's doing

>fun tanks are bad
>boring tanks are good

>orisa
>fun tank
sure buddy

did you forget the period where resilience was so strong that the difference between bursting a priest and a warrior was about 1% damage?

Post a single arena game at a decent rating where chain casting like this let a Warlock win

There's a good sized group of people who play OW only to troll and make people mad. OP is just mad his streambux are about end when he can't switch to hanzo at the last minute and fuck up a comp match for everyone. most of Yea Forumss motivations for anything now is to piss off "normies". When normies fight back, Yea Forums falls down crying and pretending to be victimized. It's just the way things are now. OW is dead and a shit game to Yea Forums because they put in chat filters, increased bans from reports, and are now removing the ability to comp troll.

the only fun tank is hammond and he barley counts as tank anyway
also dps will blame you for losing even if you have gold elim/dmg because you didnt enable their shitty choices with a shield and even if you repick they still cant hit and dont use your shiled anyway
they should just interduce more narrow region to play with
im tired to get queued up with russians
this forced roles wont solve anything

>has to actually aim
>projectile based
>headshot modifier

man you guys sure have a stupid as fuck idea of creativity. creativity is not playing shit that doesn't work or only works if under a singular set of circumstances that never happen. if you want to be creative go make some art. there you can draw dicks and do whatever you want and get a gold star for it. the point of competitive games is to win. it's like criticizing the NFL because they won't let a player suddenly start playing basketball during a game.

They still don't get that forcing peoples into specific roles is unfun garbage, same for BF5, well it's their loss.

Side note: making a fucking MMORPG and then basing the PvP on a fucking arena mode is retarded

it doesn't force you into a specific role. you can choose your role. do you honestly think that when you start up the game it just randomizes your role like mystery heroes? you choose which role you want to play. if that doesn't work you can switch roles during map changes. i think, at best, the word you're looking for is "meta" not "role". or you did mean role and you're retarded.

you forgot
>glorified playable turret with almost no mobility

Mostly is that way in Overmeme
Faggots instantly grabbing all the DPS spots and then not even knowing what a fucking left-mouse button does.

that's everyone
Orisa just takes it to the extreme

DPS only mains get fucked. Enjoy your longer matchmaking queues because there's less dedicated tanks and supports available.

Use more buzzwords.

>Goats, Brig, 3-3 killed Ow
>Role Queue suddenly just NOW killed the game

Don't speak on the topic if you haven't played the game in awhile. The game was on a downward spiral losing players because you join a comp game and DPS is insta-picked along with tank and off healer. Now you can que for the role you want and it may take longer but the quality of games will surely improve. This was the only thing they could do to try and salvage this dumpster fire. It shouldve rolled out a year ago.

what? the reason this game sucks in the first place is because they mixed up hyper mobile no aim characters like genji, winston, doomfist etc. or just flatout i click left no skill characters like brig with the shooters genre in the first

Finally people will play tanks!
>people play Roadhog and Hammond, not Reinhardt
Finally people will play Supports
>people play nu-brigitte and mercy

WTF BLIZ U SAID THE GAME WOULD BE FIXED

>game is designed to make players adapt to the other team's strategy and counter play
>metas are formed
>metas turn out to be cancerous
>back pedal on the core concept of the game
>flex players get executed
>the least toxic playerbase gone

>queue time estimates per role
>support will always have shortest queue time
>no one in their right mind would rely on mechanically inept dps players
>win/loss will depend ENTIRELY on matchmaking
and absolutely nothing has changed

Overwatch is shit. Its biggest problem has nothing to do with the competitive mode. Fact is that the "casual" mode is a such a fucking shitshow that the game isn't fun to play. Your choice is between a mode where you are stressed out because everyone on your team is judging you and every game is worth points that people care a lot about, or a mode where you can't play at all because every match you have at least one person who is idle on your team. Matchmaking and 6 player caps were a mistake.

Glad I got a full refund after I saw where this shit game was headed.

spoken like a mcree main who thinks he is the shit but as soon as there is no shield and heal to babysit you cant make a single kill and you also dont want to switch

I don't play DPS. They're fucking terrible heroes.

I'm saying this as someone who plays Roadhog and Hammond and know how insanely autistic McCree fags get when you don't have M2Man.

Genji Winston and Doom are all no skill

Problem is that the idea is flawed. Because of how maps work, only the defending team could actually pick to adapt, meaning that the meta naturally moved to boring but safe state that wasn't necessarily the best at anything, but hard to counter. That plus ultimate charge made it so the game never was about constant hero changing.
>b-but they said once that it was the point so it has to be!
No.

if you still play this game or get excited about the new lows this game gets down to you should put your balls in a vice
I don't ever want to hear about this shit game again

>That plus ultimate charge made it so the game never was about constant hero changing.
while that is true, its often worth swapping even if you have ult.
if the hero you're on has no value in the situation, regardless of ult, then you're better off as a different hero.

well i agree that it doesnt fix anything
the problem is that there are too many people unable to switch if they are countered
monkey beeing killed by reaper for 30mins every attempt he makes to dive or vice versa a wdiow beeing dived by monkey never switches
if anything it makes things worse because you cant quickly pick a reaper to coutner the winston until he change then go back to your role because your teammates are to stupid to see they are absolutely useless

they didnt fix anything, this just introduces new problems wince you can't switch your role

enjoy your shit game as you waste your life away

Akari is my daughter!

This probably won't revitalise the meta since people will just find the next toxic comp within the contraint, but I think it's very good for pubs. Everybody can like the romantic idea of 6 gamers getting together, putting aside their differences and ego to just have a great game of Overwatch but it doesn't happen if 4 of those queued up with the expectation to play Hanzo.

>playing competitive

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It's for quickplay too, cutie.

>quickplay
>instalock Genji, Hanzo, Widow
literally less variation than tryhard esports

>playing overwatch
die tranny

It was bound to happen eventually because the game is fundamentally flawed. Heroes that can die instantaneously like tracer to flash headshot, or just raw headshot, and heroes that literally can't fucking die like DVa

fuck
>mfw incels still think girls dont browse Yea Forums(nel)

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But its been dead for years

why would anyone play this boring garbage? fucking blizzdrones

blizzard trannies lose to valve once again

First we censor the chat, next we censor the gameplay

>two healers keep healing themselves after you give up trying to kill the tank and go after them afterwards
how are you supposed to make a kill in this shit game unless they're retards

what a DUMB fucking mmo turned shooter

I was like 3 years ago.

>not using high noon to reload
how's it feel down in bronze

stuns

there's no stunning unless you get close enough and die and there is no teamplay
it's a really bad shooter

>seething gold player seethes online

>mfw when anons that hit on me could have been girls
>mfw anons pretending to be girls were actually girls
>mfw I bought it and it turns out they were all men and I've been bamboozled yet again
>mfw still no cute user gf

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A forced 2-2-2 role queue doesn't fix anything as long as snipers are still a thing, but I think I have the solution

>snipers get moved into their own category away from DPS
>introduce a fourth role queue for them
>queuing as a sniper kicks you from the game
>your Blizzard account is banned permanently
>Overwatch and Battle.net uninstall automatically
>Blizzard charges your credit card for all it's worth
>infects your PC with malware that bricks everything on your network

>and e-sports faggots on blizzard payroll**
important distinction because it means these pros will never push for the amount of change that will actually turn the game into something redeemable

hes basically right though
that literally nails the core issue of the game, theres no way around healing without stacking bullshit
but bullshit is bullshit and makes people mad when they get hit with it, and blizzard keeps adding more bullshit to try to deal with the healing instead of addressing it directly, so everyone fucking hates the game

You moron they added role queue a while ago

Also have se... get friends

Precision Swedish Engineering

Equality for everybody!

rent free
dilate

>implying
tf2 has been dead since 2016, user

Anyone who actually plays the game will tell you 2-2-2 is a good thing they've been waiting for YEARS
To counter snipers you just have to put in some extra work as a tank

>Anyone who actually plays the game will tell you 2-2-2 is a good thing they've been waiting for YEARS
And anyone with barely any experience in FPS games in the past will tell you that this is an absolutely unnecessary change that will kill the game for many.
Yes yes, i get it, Overwatch is your first FPS game.
Don't worry love, you'll live long enough to see i was right.

It doesnt matter. The reason this is needed is because people only play genji, hanzo, and widow for what i assume are montage purposes. Each of those heroes have their own spot in a team, but its not EVERY SINGLE GAME. Certain characters like Soldier and Reinhardt fit everything, but you get a lot of people who will only ever play genji no matter what. In QP thats fine, it doesnt matter,but now you're willingly wasting the time of 5 other people

Yet you still seethe daily. I dont believe you. Its installed right now isnt it?

This is a good thing. I hate kids wasting my time with their "fun" and their "feelings". And no I'm not kidding.

Which overwatch characters are the most fun to play? They've sterilized the game to the point where if you don't pick whatever's meta you've already lost.

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Yet Yea Forums can't stop sucking Smash's dick where 90% of the content is banned in tournaments.

Blizzard's one and only true fan.

You guys have been saying this for three years now, and it's been wrong since the beginning. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Overwatch has outlived your favorite shitty game (and will if your shitty game isn't dead yet). Is this why you guys are so eternally buttblasted?

I don't know, that was years ago.

I like any dev that shits on casuals. Play to win every time.

Tekken 7 is still alive and will only die when Tekken 8 is out which is fine

>I like any dev that shits on casuals
>a company that keeps accidentally shitting on casuals all the time while only wanting to please them
Forget that bit about the fan, you and Blizzard are the star-crossed lovers of legend.

They should have done this from the start. You are the problem. I liked playing support and tank, I HATED playing support or tank for 4 dps mains who couldn't dps to Save their life.

2 yrs 2 late geoff

>this is false
>the very next line

I don't understandu

>dont play dps
>forced to play dps because we need
>can't play tank because only one slot

wow thanks. I'm actually top 500. :)

>Pay to role queue
>No one uses it because you have to pay
>Get friends and queue
>2 hour long queue times

Buh muh goats

The results are what matters, the casual scum gets shit on.

If I find ONE character/class I enjoy above all other, what reason would I have to play another?
I play for my own fun. Fuck you guys, fuck tryhards, and fuck Overwatch for being wasted potential shit since months after release.

This is the opposite though. This is Blizzard finally caving in to player demand. The vision they forced on the playerbase was complete deregulation and telling them to just be more considerate of each other. The only reason they're doing this now is because they're desperate. It always goes like this with Blizzard. They spend years enforcing their completely unrealistic vision for the game completely convinced they know what you enjoy better than you do. Then eventually when player numbers drops low enough they get desperate and do a complete 180. Suddenly all those things that were off the table for years are on the fast track to implementation, turning the game into a truly unrecognizable mess. It happened to WoW, SC2 and D3 too.

redditfags like you are cancer it's not that hard for a dev to communicate with core players or critique their own design it just requires humility and a few fucks to give, neither of which exist at blizzard

Widow is one of the least relevant characters in the game because she's so easy to counterpick.

I only play soldier or hanzo

theres no counterplay to widow, not since they lowered her grapple cd
and ESPECIALLY not now that you cant stack tanks and are effectively forced to give her 4 targets she can oneshot
only thing thats gonna stop her from hitting max pickrate is degenerate bastion shit
and even then widow/sombras probably what you play into that

If you don't enjoy the majority of the roster then it's a shitty game. If you can be entertaining by a single babified character with the depth of See 'N Say in OW then you're probably mentally disabled

WTF I love OW now

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Well... yeah?
OW is terrible. But even there, I enjoyed playing like one of the characters. And when I did play the game for those few weeks, I only played that character.

In most fighters I enjoy one or two characters only.

People are missing the point. This is literally Blizzard forcing you to have a DPS to babysit. Goats worked as a composition because it acknowledged the ultimate truth about Overwatch's game design which is that maginal decreases in DPS is worth MUCH greater survivability and utility, DPS heroes were phased out of the game. Sombra was the sole survivor because she offers more utility than some supports. She will basically be mandatory on teams now since they're not actually changing how the game is played. No, the PTR nerfs aren't enough.

Most fighters have characters that have more depth than the entire cast of Overwatch

>friend bought it for me because she wanted to get into video games and wanted a buddy
>dropped it after barely a month
>tfw it's techncially free but none of us have any desire to play
It's honestly impressive how bad it's designed

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>Lucio has 242 STDs
>Doomfist only has 48 STDs and he is a peaceful African warlord

I didn't realize Brazil even had an STD problem, and I didn't realize that Lucio got more pussy than any other overwatch character.

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that's sigma n

>there are "people" that get mad just because a game they've never played exists
top wew

competitive is literally the same, just that you have to play support or tank and hope the tryhard dps can do their job well enough

>DPS
>being able to aim
I don't lose 1v1 vs a hitscan single bullet DPS if I'm playing a healer until I run into premades because I can just strafe

Wait so is this shit forced in Quickplay too?

>Yea Forums has been saying Overwatch is dead/killed for 5 years

Don't you all get tired of being wrong all the time?

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OW is a dead and a shit game to everyone.

>emcels thinks being a girl matters on Yea Forums

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More like the hero that bested my DICK

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OW was only fun when there was no ranked, period.

If you are still playing after those sweet three months go neck it desu

People still play this game? How many loot boxes did you buy to justify still playing blizzturd trash in 2019?

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>que tank
>pick rein
>never use shield
>rush in big dick swangin

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this. only trannies and women play tanks and healers.

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wait do they have to change config and plug/unplug mice and keyboards every time they want to swap? that would take ages

>tfw reached 1488 wins a few months back
I took that as the perfect time to leave the game for good.
Any news I read about Overwatch pushes me further away, too.

Is this the rare FtM?

Do fags really find that attractive?

> blizzard can''t balance for this
> decide to force a meta instead

I can't tell if they're terrible at their job or if it's actually a decent idea.

look at this fucking cope

>>quit the first time roadhog got remade (IE butchered) ages ago
Same. I knew right then where things were going

This is a good thing though? It reduces the rate of cancer metas nobody likes but plays anyway because they want to win and it produces less fighting over who gets to play Widowmaker.

but it introduces new problems and doesn't fix anything else

No?

I read about this change and decided to spam faggot and nigger at every idiot in QP yesterday, finally got my well earned permaban too.

Game's shit and so are Blizzard.

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what problems other than queue times for dps mains?

it's fixing symptoms but not the cause

>for dps mains?
the fact that dps mains even exist is already a problem

>Bogdanette

You ever think that the people playing tank and support so you can play dps every single game might want a chance to play dps from time to time too? You ever stop to consider that it's a team based game and when you insta lock dps and refuse to switch no matter how bad you are playing that maybe that makes you a shitty teammate?

a hero shooter is in it's core a giant flaw that's the problem. it's a shame ow was fun at it's most balanced but blizz have no idea what they're doing

>hey v i just threw out twenty dollars to epic pwn Blizzard

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How do you feel about about fighting games?

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>still can't even choose what game mode you want to play in casual but Blizzard is doing this

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Only fat fucks like Nuki and literal gay boys have true mains. Every other pro has a character or two per game because every game has such a high learning curve. Daigo didn't stick with Akuma even though that was his character in Alpha 3.

GREAT, now Hanzo and Widow fags are even more useless than before.

Icefrog is based

I'm glad they are finally doing something to save the game

it doesnt reduce the cancer metas at all
it just shifts the issue to things that can no longer be solved by stacking tanks
the balance is dogshit man, literally does not even begin to address a portion of the core issues the game has, its just a desperate, last resort bandaid theyre using to try to retain the last bit of their playerbase

its funny though because this change is actually just going to piss EVERYONE off
supports and tanks are now basically incapable of changing the outcome of a match, every game functionally boils down to the team that rolls the better dps players wins because characters like widow and tracer will control the pace of every match and will require hard mirror 1v1s in order to be played around
and dps players now get to sit in queue for 40 minutes at a time and then basically throw if the opposing players they match into are better than them because theres no swap they can make that can bridge that gap anymore
also anyone who plays a character who would normally be forced to flex roles like hammond, sym, mei, etc is basically fucked, those character are now effectively removed from the game because they dont fit in 2/2/2

why are they so hellbent on making the game terrible for people?

NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
>NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
>NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
>NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
>NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.
>NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS OTHERWISE ALL YOU BLITHERING RETARDS WOULD REALIZE THE GAME NEEDED THIS.

Why does it need it in Quickplay, the casual mode, though?

No, the game needs balance.

This is literally all wrong though. Almost every balance change this game sees is due to community feedback. Disallowing hero stacking? Community feedback. Replay system? Community feedback. Role lock? Community feedback. 90% of hero balancing? Community feedback.

The OW team bends over backwards for the community. If anything, they listen to the community too much.

you're an idiot
the game needed balance, not a 2-2-2 lock
kys

>NO ONE ON Yea Forums ACTUALLY PLAYS THIS
No shit retard, I only lurk these threads for porn dumps.

>the community wants role lock
literally NO ONE wanted that shit MONTHS AGO until JAYNE AND HIS ARMADA OF RETARDS STARTED PARROTING THAT DISGUSTING SHIT OPINION THAT ORIGINALLY CAME FROM A FRINGE RETARDED YOUTUBER
you can stomp your feet, cry and be angry all how you want about blizzard, i don't hate them or the devs
i hate the community more than anything else
the overwatch userbase is the most retarded of the entire universe
you are absolutely right, i'm foaming with rage right now
they listen to the CLUELESS fucking RETARDED MONGREL community way too much
and this is why the game is shit

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Tanks and supports killed overwatch. Now we are really going to need nerfs on mobile so heroes.

>the game needed a 180 on its initial philosophy regarding roles
So it was bad from the beginning and until now?

she's a qt but I hate her so fucking much

>2019
>OW
lmao

> I need to main one thing in every single game I play or else I won't do well.

Did you consider maybe you are just bad at video games? 1 tricks are just as cancer in tf2 as in any game. The truly good players in tf2 can play pretty much all classes competently, retards like you force those players to pick something else to compensate for your lack of skill at the game. Maybe if you weren't so self centered you could take a step back and realize people like you are the cancer that ruins team based games.

You are willing to forgo what little dignity you have just to take a shortcut to a win rather than learning the game in its entirety.

Based and true.
Arcade is casual mode, not quickplay.
>just balance the game lol xd
Holy shit, I never even thought about that. Blizz should hire you.
I'm excited for it and I think it will improve the health of the game. I'm sorry you aren't as happy with it, but at least you aren't the retard I replied to who thinks that Blizz are out of touch with the community because that's the most obnoxious falsehood I see in OW threads on Yea Forums.

Overbotched is a dead game because they keep adding in characters that completely outshine everyone just so its easier to win.
Overbotched is a dead game because blizz keeps trying to force an esport meta while trying to support a casual crowd.

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>using the term 1trick
>preachy
you have to go back redditor

Based Jeff. Now all they need to do, is implement hero pick ban and it'll be good.

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>I'm excited for it and I think it will improve the health of the game.
i wish i could be brain damaged like you
i bet your life is way happier than mine

>i wish i could be brain damaged
But user, you're legitimately frothing-at-the-mouth angry over a video game. You ARE brain damaged.

I haven't played it because I'm not a faggot. However, the game is shit if alternative metas are not viable, and only shittier for cementing this forced meta.

it's natural to be mad for something you have invested time and money on
that's why people are mad niggers and minorities are wrecking the western world
unless you're a nigger yourself
are you now, user?
niggo niggo niggy nigguh niggerino?

LOL these neet poorfag trannies and zoomers have paid 40 dollars for the game so now they will defend it till they're dead.
I'm glad I am not poor and have experienced better video games so I don't have to fixate on this garbage.
Play a better game.

fuck i love the seething instalock dps fags

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Rush her with a hammond if you do it right by the time you have to shoot she is already 50hp and dead in a second

>adding a mode to arcade
Once they removed the ability to have more than one of the same hero is quickplay they said that no limits was being added to arcade, but then they removed it from the rotation and now it shows up like once a month. Why the fuck dont they just have all the arcade modes available at the same time instead of contantly having every free-for-all gamemode taking up 3 of the 5 arcade spots everyday?

It hasn't died, at least for me. Actually I haven't died much at all since the change nor have I lost. I'm on a hot 23 win streak. Facing 3+ dps comps as a tank main was like training for this moment. 2 dps is like fodder in comparison that can't even bring me down to half health.

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I never bought this shit because they refused to implement proper 21:9 support. Fuck them.

Nobody cares about who you respect

I even had the chance to get it for free once and instead let someone else have it.

I understand doing this for the competitive scene, but why do this for casual?

you'll love them even more when they will pick tank and support queue and refuse to play with the team
i'm looking forward to play moira dps only
>hurr you'll get banned and derank to bronze
sure, but not before ruining all of your matches :^)

So is this the time to go back to overwatch?

They want to sell more merch and people to be able to distinguish Korean#3 from Korean#14 by where they are seating.

lmao this is my exact point, instalock dps fag is so seething he has a tantrum starts trolling all of his games

stay mad ahhaahhaahahah

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Brig is shit, Hammond has some of the worst Matchups in the game and Ashe has nearly no actual presence in OWL and barely makes a dent in Comp matches.
If anything it's way older Characters that are back in prominence like McCree and Orisa.

that doesn't look even human
dick says no

t. goldie soon to be silver :^)

Sniper classes ruin games by locking in certain defensive characters and forcing meta decisions that box in creative tactics, while promoting distance play and a desire to be seen as "skillful" by choosing supposedly hard-to-master classes, change my mind

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hahaha!

so what? 2/1/2 meta in ASSFAGGOTS games isn't the same shit?!

fuck YOU!

i DID, just yesterday at a yard sale for $2.

then i went and sold it to gamestop, made a decent amount of store credit.

>Despite having 13% of the dev team of overwatch and 0% of the budget, HotS is 50% more balanced than Overwatch
I'm not going to change the mind of someone who's completely correct. This is why I've made it my life's work to bully the fuck out of snipers by dodging their shots in the most humiliating way possible.

Amen, I remember my team going all support in comp because fuck it and we actually won the game

yeah because the game promotes maining but at the same time doesnt promote maining.

If you swap characters, oops you lose all ur ult charge.
If you main tracer and get really good at her, oops you get shit on by their aoe/cc shit.
If you mained dps or support, you're still less likely to main some of the newer characters because they're harder to learn.

Its a giant shit show that they havent tried to remedy because if they tried to remedy any of these problems, they'll end up with an even bigger mess than before.

The whole entire concept of overwatch was fucked simply by design.
Only way to try and salvage it is with more closed maps based around choke points/team fights.
The moment fights start becoming 1v1, it becomes very noticeable that you can be stomped quite easily.

This whole entire game is literally problem after problem after problem and I genuinely think that there is no fix for it except to remake the game under a new title after several years.

>bought it
>played it
>had fun
>stopped playing
>only care about the porn now
I got my money's worth.

>make a melee character
>have to compensate her lack of range options with stronk close quarters options
>give her a shield with decent hp
>be surprised that she can win 70% of team fights because she has a kit that allows her to initiate, sustain herself, and leave fights whenever she wants

Jesus christ.

played it with my cousin, it just felt so fucking slow and I went back to TF2

I can only play the game drunk anymore. I need help to stop because now I have an alcohol addiction.

That cuck would literally lick jizz off the street corner and say its the best thing ever.

I do not.

I’ve always played overwatch with 1 healer on my team back when it first came out.

This is really going to slow down the game why on earth isn’t it 2-3-1.

Also no way I will ever play again with 10 minute queue times if I want to play my favorite McCree

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Got stomped pretty bad huh? I don't blame you for running back to your dead game.

>This is really going to slow down the game why on earth isn’t it 2-3-1.

because there is such an abundance of players lining up to play support, duh
>looks at queue times for support vs dps
o-oh

>mfw one tricked hog to masters
>dont really care because hes a tank

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>bad at games
>lol shit game haha dilate trannies

>first TI with no Uni
Feels bad man

This is how it should be for Overwatch if they actually cared about queue times

1-2-1-2

One tank, two DPS, one healer, and two Flex positions where you can pick anything .

That way it doesn’t stagnate the core gameplay and allows for variety.

stomped? I didn't even get to the fight
I thought tracer was suppose to be fast but she's slower than fucking Soldier

so it'd be 1 healer, 1 tank and 4 dps?

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>2-2-2 meta
that's not even the meta, 3 tanks and 3 healers is the meta
>unable to switch roles mid game
that's the biggest issue, as long as it stays "2-2-2" it shouldn't matter who plays which role, forcing someone to only play one role is cancer

I used to play the game as a rein main, and the amount of people who'd bitch at me because i wasn't just a fucking shield bot when i had 4 silvers/golds was astounding. And then when I did stand completely still with shield up so they could shoot its like they threw their mouse off the fucking desk.
I never understood DPS. Literally hold left click. Never let go of it and you easily make silver damage at least. But i've played with my m8s next to me and we've had literally every medal as tanks and healers.

>stressed out
>in a video game
found the tranny

SEETHING dpstards

twitch.tv/navewav
fuck overwatch. watch shovel knight.

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why peepee big?

>Where were you when Blizzard killed Overwatch?
It was a long time ago when they added ranked, I don't remember what I was doing

Well, that will only* filter the non versatile players.
(*if their playerbase isn't full of them it's a good change)

It is better to be good at one character you think is fun than being mediocre at several you might not enjoy.

Imagine calling anyone a cuck when you're a slave to the 12 year olds on your team bitching about how the team needs a medic.

the point of ow's core design is that it's swapping heroes based on the other teams choice of heroes. players who can't off tank or off heal are just bad, since you'll run into games where you won't be able to just dps or heal, you'll need to switch to a different play style to counter what the enemies are doing.

Uh, Dva dies very quickly generally, and Tracer lasts forever due to the ability to REWIND TIME.

Holy shit. get. fucking. gud. It's an easy game.
>he's basically right
samefag who is wrong, that's sad as fuck.

it's seething Tf2 fans mostly.

>Rotting corpse outlasts a new game
Yeah sure.

but that's what your really supposed to do, despite all the silver faggots yelling at you to use the shield. Rien's hammer is a fucking beast and can kill entire groups in 3 swings. i only use the shield when there is no chance of damaging the enemy

To get rid of times when you find yourself on a team of 5 DPS players who won't switch.

You are correct in theory for games like this but it does not work at all in practice. It's retarded that it's being applied to pro matches, but in regular competitive queues for the average player it's a necessary evil. You queue up, your team might overall have better players on average, but there's some faggot who insists he play one hero and one hero only. And then you lose because you're down a man when he's playing some shit that doesn't work for the game.

Don't get me wrong, I don't even play Overwatch, but I've seen the role queues in Dota and League work out much better than actually relying on 2 teams of 5 people all get players on roles they're comfortable with.

pic unrelated retard

It baffles me how Blizzard keeps fucking up in ways people can't even comprehend anymore, by this point they will likely force players to pick a certain character to keep their meta going while adding in new characters that will never be used

Is Pharah still countered by 60% of the roster or have they changed her recently

I noticed that most ppl here don't even play OW or are rly low rated, why are you giving your opinion it is legit trash. I think I lost braincells from some of the comments here. What would you know about balancing "randomness was fun gaiz ow is ruined now" stick to arcade you casual degenerate

You're supposed to keep the shield up until the DPS take out anything that might be able to tear through Rein (Pharah, Reaper, Bastion, Mei to some extent), then go in swinging. Or when the enemy team are hanging out behind a corner like a bunch of pussies trying to feebly pick something off before pushing in.

this is your brain on ranked

>friend tries to tell me to get overwatch due to it being like TF2 but better
>watch brother play it on PS4 to see if its worth it
>somehow worse then what I heard and brother constantly gets frustrated to the point he will start banging his controller on the floor loudly
>Roommate is same situation, not helped by the fact he is very easy to anger resulting in multiple autistic outbursts
>Then hear news how OW keeps getting worse
>This shit happens
I'm glad I didn't fall for the meme unlike my friends and brother

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No not rly I just get payed to play the game n only play ranked in the last week to secure a spot in top 500

I'd love to play Dota 2 again. But I can't fix it crashing mid-game and fucking up my PC.

Yeah, now it's pick Sombra to try and stop GOATS, if you fuck up you instantly lose, if you hold them back they switch to Lucio, Brigette, Ana, D.Va, Zarya, and someone with damage to kill Sombra, amazing. You know that 45% of the roster has under a 10 percent pick rate?

It got a new hero not too long ago. It got a hero rework too.

oh arent you precious

>Hey people don't want to play this role
>But we have to have that role
>fuck it we'll force people to play the role

That's the EXACT THING I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT. Are you ESL?

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What are you talking about? Fortnite killed any competitive viability the instant they removed friendly fire. The game is a fucking joke and has been since then.

then why are humans smarter then whales
checkmate atheist

I understand that some people get frustrated when your team is 4 DPS, but honestly it just feels like they're removing player agency and creative strategies.

Imagine if the first time someone tried a Tri-Lane in DotA it got banned. Imagine if the first time someone was a dedicated roamer in DotA or LoL they just banned it. It was fun in Overwatch to be able to pull out crazy strategies like suddenly having 4 tanks, or having no healers and only DPS/Tanks. It wasn't always effective or worked but it could be a whole lot of fun when it did. This just makes the game more sterile and boring.

But balancing is hard when players can play whatever they want and don't adhere to the specific format we have in mind

thinking you are a girl doesn't mean you are a girl

>Leading people to play the roles they want to play
What the fuck? I can't even remember the last time I played overwatch but this sounds illogical
how the fuck can restricting what you can pick give you the ability to freely play the role you want?

your point would make sense if people played this game for fun

Just don't get headshot bro :^)

This is pointless to do. It won't save overwatch because nothing is stopping a DPS from playing Sombra/Tracer on Defense. It's an instant GG unless they are hacking. The same goes for every category. Until they break the game up into def/offense roles again this isn't going to work.

Blizzard is so trash at balancing their game they're forcing composition locks.
HAHAHHAAHA Thank god I fucking ditched this game after the second season.

>t-t-the game needs it, you should be happy you are forced into a role
If the game needed this then its a shit game and it will still be a shit game since this is the equivalent of using tape to fix multiple leaks on a sinking ship

They always wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Like you know why TF2 has lasted so long? Because it's totally casual and fun. Competitive TF2 is a joke that nobody ever took seriously.

Overwatch on the other hand, Blizzard wants to be both casual and fun, but highly competitive too and it just doesn't work that way.

I'm reminded of Left 4 Dead which Valve wanted to be less fun and casual and more competitive and now Left 4 Dead is dead to everyone but the most hardcore of players.

Why don't you ask League of Legends, WoW, and other games how their match quality improved after forced queue implementation.

>where was I
I don't remember where I was when Ana was added into the game.
Its been a shitshow ever since.

Don't forget low effort "representation" of LGBT shit that people eat up for no reason.

So when someone drops out of the match for whatever reason, no one on either team can switch roles to fill say: a missing healer? Great. This game is trash.

if you're not Diamond using Mei exclusively, you're shit at the game
simple as that

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>The community has been asking for a role queue for years. Blizzard didn't 'force' this upon the game
Why not have a pick/ban instead? what the fuck does role queue solve except making shit completely stale?

>Overwatch thread
>No one posting the ERP or AID fags, or the ones that fight over BEING Mercy
Post the video

Bans would improve the game 100%

Loooool who still plays overwatch

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>Overwatch is announced
friends get it, swear it's the funnest game ever
>naively try it, usually don't enjoy FPS games
>game is just a mess of bad balance and unfun modes
>played when shit like Roadhog hook to kill combo and shit like Ana wasn't out yet
>hate the game, force myself to play cause friends love it
>friends insist on playing competitive mode
>they all are so rabidly obsessed with winning on this shit game it causes strife between everyone
>one guy breaks down and cries because he feels so worthless he can't win comp games, he feels he has no self worth
>other guy is so stuck up because he's good with snipers, has a huge ego
>other dude gets huge ego because he reached gold status even though it was largely because he wouldn't play without sniper guy
>give up and uninstall shit game
>wasted $40 on the least fun experience I've had
>had to watch friendship go to shit over this trash game
>mfw I'll never get my money or time back

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>played the free beta
>wouldn't be too bad with friends
>see $40 price tag
>not one of us buys it
glad I'm not a shit taste faggot

Imagine if dota forced you to pick two carries two supports and one mage. Imagine this shit.
Or league forced you to pick exactly the specificly designed heroes to their specific lanes and if you go to the botlane with a mage you will immidiately get disconnect and ban from the game, ahahahaha

I don't need to imagine that for League

that's what happens when you make a hero that's all reward and absolutely no risk

It all started with the overpowered brit.

I honestly think this is a huge improvement
The OW community is toxic af and not for the sjw faggots but the fags that refuse to switch to the appropriate role for counter situations

>refuse to switch to the appropriate role for counter situations
I agree, but the game actively punishes switching characters

but also for the sfw faggots

Are you trying to imply it hasn't been dead for at least 2 years or more, cuck?

>>had to watch friendship go to shit over this trash game
>tfw this happened to me but with yu-gi-oh and then mtg
All because one guy would look up top-tier decks and build them while we all fucked around with whatever we could get our hands one. Guy was super smug and condescending about it too. Singlehandendly killed our ygo group. I tried for as long as i could to keep him from learning about us playing mtg, and when he did he immediately started doing the same thing, had an infect deck within like a week. Killed the group in less than a year and tried his hardest to get us into commander after we quit.
He wasn't that bad outside of card games funnily enough

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MOMMY

overwatch was never good

normalfags and newfags please go

league tried this and it was quickly scrapped in favor of having to select 2 roles with autofill

I never understood what's so bad about playing to win. The objective of the game is to win, therefore doing everything you can to win sounds like the reasonable thing to do.
Not looking up topdecks and just fucking around sounds counterintuitive and just setting yourself up to fail, aka the opposite of fun.

Playing to win is not the same as playing theorycrafted meta decks against your friends' 5 minute meme decks

the rest of us just used structure decks and what we could build from boosters. Guy would drop hundreds of dollars on decks that far outpaced ours to be annoying and just not fun to play with.

That's exactly that though. The friends had nothing stopping them from looking up theorycrafted decks or coming up with their own, they chose to memedeck when they knew their opponent didn't, and you are trying to spin this as that guy's fault.

Sounds like you are a bunch of pussyboys.

imagine if dota let you switch heroes during the game, id play it

>haha dude don't you want to spend hundreds of dollars each on decks so you can play competitively against your friend group
>what do you mean we'll all be playing the same few decks?
>what do you mean there's no prizes?

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you don't have friends in real life do you.

You don't have to immediately resort to projecting.

>actually playing overwatch
>instead of just fapping to porn
What the fuck are you doing, faggots?

>he doesn't bring real firearms and ammunition to laser tag
it's like you don't wanna win lol

if you're not Masters using Bastion exclusively, you're shit at the game
simple as that

you don't have friends in real life do you.

>I play for fun
is numale cope m8, no real man ever does anything for fun

>no real man ever does anything for fun
You got that wrong. There's nothing wrong with doing anything for fun, it's about what you actually find fun separates the real men and the pussies apart.

t. numale raised by a single mother

This is fine to be honest, it only affects retards who still play this shit game. Played for 2 days during the Baptiste event after not playing in over a year and there are still a ton of fucking idiots that all pick dps and leave us with no tanks. The only people left playing nowadays are autistic smurfs and only the most devoted blizzdrones that will defend whatever shit blizzard plops down on their plate. The game has been a mess for a long time and they need all the handholding and rules to keep teams balanced honestly.

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Fallout NV is a good game though.

This, literally "artificial" fun, trying to inflict limits so they make it "fair" because the game is a piece of shit

Should have let it stay the way it is and let the fags META the most and see who wins

It's amazing how clueless Blizz always is when it comes to game balance.

what if my team wants to do the 3 tanks and 3 healers thing?

>Quick Play classic will still exist in Arcade

Thus nullifying the entire point of this thread. OP is a huge faggot and so is everyone who agreed with him.

Do some fucking research.

youtube.com/watch?v=sYYDCFOTSO0

>Invite some friends over to play some casual MTG over a couple of beers
>"That guy" shows up and only uses his tournament-ready decks

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