>actually encouraging people who spend thousands of hours building up skill in an absolutely useless field that won't make them good money even at the top levels of play just to make their e-penis bigger
And don't give me that "b-buh they like doing it!" because NO game is fun after spending even 1000 hours in it, it will invariably become a chore. This is one of the big problems video games have that other mediums don't, they feel too entitled to the players time. In an absolutely great game, I mean your favorite game of all time, you should spend no more than 200 hours playing. Anymore than that and it can't possibly offer you any extra value, its a chore. And those 200 hundred hours should be spread over a year at least, ideally more, not just spent playing the game over and over for a month. He's supporting an unhealthy and miserable lifestyle.
Actually encouraging people who spend thousands of hours building up skill in an absolutely useless field that won't...
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You're right, they should be writing posts like this instead.
the glory of holding a world record is worth more than money.
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Imagine being so bitter that you worry about what grown people do in their spare time
But they like doing it
God, I miss /srg/.
I hope you aren’t implying writing a single paragraph is anywhere near the amount of wasted effort that people spend to ruin their favorite game.
Maybe in something like weightlifting or sports. I would rather have a modicum if income than have a world record in something completely meaningless that will inevitably be topped or matched if anyone else on earth even cares
Some retardedly arbitrary numbers you've got in that post OP. Never played an RPG?
Fuck /srg/ and fuck monkeys too.
You DO have a world record, right, Yea Forums?
I have the world record for the most (You)s in GDQ/ESA threads on Yea Forums.
I wouldn’t say worry, i’m really just looking to discuss and criticize something vidya related. Just because something isn’t a simple porn thread doesn’t mean it’s some heated raging debate that someone genuinely thinks matters.
there used to be a speedrunning general?
was anyone actually good?
did people even speedrun competitively or was it just talking about speedrunners and "speedrunning" (finishing in the worst 10% of leaderboards)
I’ve played plenty of rpg’s, the ones that aren’t grindfests shouldn’t take you more than 60 hours if you aren’t a retard. If you’re playing shit like monster hunter than I don’t know what to tell you, you’re just a retard who can’t be reasoned with.
speedrunning games is equally a waste of time as any other way of playing games
>If you’re playing shit like monster hunter than I don’t know what to tell you, you’re just a retard who can’t be reasoned with.
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Thanks for proving your inexperience with video games.
I tried keeping the threads going right after gdq but there were like 3 people just shitting on each other
one day they'll be back
>what is a hobby
Yeah, as in a game that takes up hundreds of hours doing the same loop over and over to get a shiny digital toy. I know it isn't an rpg but it is the quintessential example of the grind that's present in many loot games like diablo or borderlands, or j"rpgs"
Hobbies are generally not things you do everyday for the majority of the day. Look up top speedrunners, they aren't hobbyists, its a full time job for them.
>Not having over 1000 hours in TF2
pathetic zoomer
Why does it matter if you're grinding for a digital toy or a world record? How does it make you a retard that can't be reasoned with?
god I wish that were me
not every speedrunner is some 'personality' on twitch who can make money from it by playing as much as possible. To some people it's actually just a hobby.
>if you play more than 200 hours in a game its a chore
Look at this funlet, look at him and laugh!
>Soccer isn't a hobby, look at all the professional soccer players, they aren't hobbyists, its a full time job for them
>Chess isn't a hobby, look at all the professional chess players, they aren't hobbyists, its a full time job for them
>Driving isn't a hobby, look at all the professional drivers, they aren't hobbyists, its a full time job for them
>Making food isn't a hobby, look at all the professional chefs, they aren't hobbyists, its a full time job for them
>you're not allowed to like what I don't like
is that the crux of your argument? yes or no please, don't bother trying to spin it
I hold a few time attack records in Mighty No9 and a long long time ago when MGS2 Substance's leaderboards were active. I was rank 3 on NA in Boss Rush a lot of people didn't know that you could slow down the framerate and stunlock Vamp by spamming STINGER missiles at him like crazy, beating him in under 10 seconds game-time
So your problem isn't with speedrunning itself, but speedrunners that try to make a career out of it.
I'm exaggerating, but the average person who vehemently defends monster hunter doesn't even have enough self awareness to realize they're playing a skinner box.
For speedrunning? No, you won't get anything close to a speedrun time without grinding out PB's and treating like AT LEAST a part time job, this isn't the early 2000s anymore, almost every trick in any speed game is known, you can't get a time thats considered a "speedrun" in a week anymore, unless you already speedrun. Also driving and to a lesser extent cooking literally aren't hobbies, people do them out of necessity. Soccer and Chess are something you can play for a couple hours once a week or less and still consider it a "hobby", to get good enough that you get a time considered a legitimate "speedrun" you have to grund for few hours at LEAST three days a week. You're allowed to like what I don't like and I'm allowed to shit on you for wasting your time. Also speedrunning in general is a dick swinging contest that emboldens fat retards like rwhitegoose to think they're part of some aryan race, either that or you cut your dick off from the stress of pushing a game's time to it's human limit.
Yeah actually, thats a pretty good summary, early speedrunning seemed much more casual.
So it's not speedrunning if you're not top 10% in the world?
>you won't get anything close to a speedrun time without grinding out PB's and treating like AT LEAST a part time job, this isn't the early 2000s anymore, almost every trick in any speed game is known, you can't get a time thats considered a "speedrun" in a week anymore, unless you already speedrun.
Not every game is mario 64 or ocarina where there's thousands of people spending thousands of hours just to cut back on a second or two. I'd say a lot of people just speedrun their favourite games, but maybe that's just my experience. There are loads of un-optimised games out there.
Running an unoptimized game and getting WR is like winning the special olympics without having a disability.
>casual elitism
Fuck off
If it's an objectively bad game or a game nobody has played, then sure. But if you an optimised game for literally thousands of hours just for a pat on the back, then you're mentally not in a good place.
Yeah, pretty much.
I suppose so, but many still are and feel like the enthusiasm people had before it was just and esport was much more enjoyable. Even games that aren't super optimized are getting to the point where getting the maximum time to still be a "speedrun" is harder than it would have been to get a good time in super popular games like Mario. There was a point where just knowing BLJs and the mips skip meant you could "speedrun" the game
But what if I enjoy a game past 200 hours.
Reminder that ESA starts soon.
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Games are inherently casual, they were always supposed to be advanced kid's toys. The people who gloat about being "hardcore gamurs" are about as mentally stable as people who treat action figures like serious business.
>Hearthstone: Blackrock Mountain
why
schedule looks largely decent tbf
>there used to be a speedrunning general
there used to be a lot of generals. there was a general for fucking dawngate of all things
I'm perfectly fine with other people doing it, but I definitely wouldn't. I spent five hours working to get Diamond (top 1%) on a Daily Challenge on the Vita release of Rayman Legends and I would probably never do so again.
Speed running involves cheating through exploitation which should make it not legit. Regardless, I would never take the time to sit down and watch someone steamroll through a game.