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Will Games Ever be Art?
Jayden Sullivan
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Charles Lewis
Christian Howard
no
Bentley Taylor
Mason Rogers
Video games are not art - and that's a good thing.
Gavin Thomas
Anthony Jenkins
Connor Rodriguez
Eli Davis
Zachary Lopez
Levi Moore
Parker Bell
Kevin Johnson
Joseph Flores
Christian Lopez
Hudson Adams
Holy shit
William King
Luis Moore
wrong one
Easton Hill
Ayden Bell
Sebastian Nelson
what the fuck
Landon Myers
playin chess wid it too
Juan Nguyen
Cooper Bailey
Ethan Ortiz
Points if you can guess the character
Henry Gomez
Noah Miller
melon
Henry Russell
Aaron Rodriguez
Nathaniel Morris
this is the worst response to this question
The answer is no, not right now at least. Game audiences are way too indecisive about what they want. I think there are games that are good, intelligent experiences, but I don't think that there are any games as enigmatic or deep as some of the defining works of art in other art forms. We're still waiting for the video game Shakespeare, the video game Ingmar Bergman, or the video game Mozart. At this rate, I kind of doubt that that person will come any time soon, if only because of the rampant anti-intellectualism in the video game community. (and also because video games were invented at a different stage in capitalism's history than any other form of art thus far, and they take much higher budgets than most other artforms, therefore only the safest and most commercial works will be made, relegating games to kitsch instead of art)
Carson Morris
Levi Walker
maybe
Jacob Stewart
OHNONONONONNONO
Jaxon Roberts
Ryan Stewart
you can't make art from a movie the same way you can from a picture by showing a still frame of a move for 90 minutes, you can't make art from a video game by trying to pretend it's a movie. a video game is art when it tries to be a video game
Nolan Thompson
does it matter? some games are in museums already (and not those dumb 'history of gaming' ones).
Ethan Ortiz
Lucas Long
Camden Walker
The second games become art, they are no longer games. You can have a great story. You can have great music. You NEED great GAMEplay.
Art is art, games are games, and that’s a good thing.
Adam Martin
Dominic Morgan
Christian Ortiz
hey every buddy
Elijah Robinson
he should add this to his portfolio
Gavin Hughes
Andrew Baker
Adrian Garcia
Kayden Thompson
Landon White
Kayden Walker
>yfw you miss by one
Oliver Bennett
Bentley Williams
I like this one
Michael Morris
>A sandwich,my kind sir?
Wyatt Bennett
Elijah Lee
>jotaro hat
yare yare daze
David Lee
Jackson Green
lovecraftian
Isaac Hill
Adrian Perry
Excellent usage of chiaroscuro
Aaron Johnson
SOUL /// SOULLESS
Michael Baker
Ethan Fisher
that portrait actually came out really well, looks like it should be in a museum
Lincoln Rogers
Artistically BLACKED
Jason Watson
That looks like Victorian era art
Chase Fisher
Hudson Bennett
Gabriel Fisher
>Me on the outside vs. Me on the inside
Ayden Powell
>"Is this a late April Fool's joke?"
David Moore
OH NONONONONONONONONONO
Brody Rogers
David Sanchez
Henry Garcia
Brody Smith
Connor Ortiz
>original vs. remaster
Luke Martinez
The face of contempt.
Elijah Diaz
Aaron Martin
Blake Phillips
Eli Clark
now that's an abstract kind of feel
Grayson Bailey
Bentley Lewis
Sebastian Edwards
These are all good
Kayden Evans
Yes, I agree. I'm not saying games need to copy other art forms. I'm saying that we do not have anything that is uniquely a game that would be considered a defining work of art in gaming yet. Right now, designers are JUST starting to learn how to use mechanics to make a statement, and even that is mostly relegated to lower budget indie titles. There are games that artistically inclined, like the MGS series, Mother 3, etc, but I do not feel that they use their status as a game to the advantage of their story or their messaging.
Oh, yeah, another reason it's difficult for games to get to the level of art: most of them are designed by committee, with no distinct authorship. I hate auteur theory, but it's undeniable that it was crucial in moving film as an art form. The closest thing we have to an auteur in gaming right now is Kojima or Sakurai maybe... but Kojima makes games that are trying to be movies, and Sakurai doesn't make games with any statement in mind.
Jaxon Thomas
OHNONONO
Jeremiah Hill
Jace Morris
Jaxson Nelson
Ethan Ward
MELON
Brandon Gonzalez
Lucas Jones
edgy fucker
Jacob Roberts
I laughed out loud.
Jason Lewis
>I seriously hoped, and yet they did it anyway...
Alexander Lee
Parker Brown
Oh dear
Gavin Foster
Liam Ramirez
Carter Lopez
Jonathan Baker
haunting
Parker Nelson
Jack Ward
you can say it was trash
Eli Davis
Bruh, even in it's infancy an artform is still art
Kayden Anderson
Brandon Morris
Jeremiah Campbell
Luis Phillips
Jackson Peterson
He was an hero
Matthew Anderson
Aiden Morgan
Parker Parker
Everything is art retard
Zachary Gray
Jose Williams
Easton Turner
>My face
>My soul
Xavier Cook
the AI had no fucking idea what to do with this level of ugly
Jace Carter
Did the AI improve ArtAnon's work or only made it worse?
Bentley Reyes
It even gives him the mutton chops.
Ian Lewis
depend what algorithm is picked i guess. Thre are several for different styles
Ethan Sullivan
Christopher Ward
Colton Jackson
Surrender your arms.
Lucas Gutierrez
huh
Isaac Torres
AI drew Jose 50 years later as he reflects upon his vision of the golem.
Aaron James
Benjamin Thomas
Jayden Roberts
Anthony Davis
Alexander Powell
the pure child who saved /bix/
Isaiah Ortiz
>Il Soilentio
Levi Foster
Ian Phillips
Lincoln Richardson
Liam Edwards
Robert Wood
Nathan Carter
Caleb Price
Hunter Mitchell
it's moot
Kayden Sanchez
Samuel Campbell
Sir Who?
Jack Brown
Jonathan Martinez
saved
Ethan Torres
Andrew Rodriguez
Kevin Butler
Benjamin Ward
follow your dreams
Jose Bailey
kino
Zachary Rodriguez
who?
Chase Jenkins
only posting this for the image not trying to break a rule
Elijah Edwards
Who is that fine gentleman?
Jackson Ortiz
Hudson Thomas
Parker Wood
what did it mean by this
Caleb Rivera
Lemme take a Selphie
Jack Fisher
it's moot
Nathan Phillips
who is that
Jace Parker
In purely technical terms, yes, but there's a distinction between kitsch and what a lot of people call "high art", or "great art". When most people ask "is _____ art?" they're asking if it's the latter, not if it literally exists as art.
Sure, but as mentioned above, the discussion isn't really "are video games art or not" it's more "are video games worthy art".
Connor Lee
David Roberts
it's moot
Christian Watson
Bentley Perez
thats moot
Sebastian Nelson
Michael Walker
Chase Ward
HEY GUISE CHECK'EM
Isaac Russell
>When you start out Nomura but accidentally Amano
Christopher Hall
Before and after he sold Yea Forums.
Blake Jackson
Lucas Diaz
This can't be real.
Ryan Stewart
Aaron Long
Jonathan Baker
Al Bhed don't know high art
Jose Price
Xavier Gray
Austin Jackson
looks it cant into asian faces
Liam Young
it looks like fucking rantz
Isaiah Moore
Angel Moore
why does it make everything retarded?
Samuel Russell
Oliver Perry
Chase Perez
Xavier Sanchez
Michael Lopez
Brayden Nelson
Looks like Stalone.
Adam Cooper
Michael Powell
YO
Liam Cooper
Julian Cox
Brody Rogers
Never fucking lucky, man
Luke Ortiz
Dominic Murphy
games dont need to be art, modern art is a money laundering scam and AAA gaming is a gambling exploitive scam that has ruined the industry. so games are art now right?
Sebastian Wright
Angel Russell
MY LEG SO ITCHY!!
Daniel Sanders
Joseph Flores
Blake Brown
Henry Wilson
so this is the power of art huh
Aaron Scott
Juan Adams
Josiah Hall
Charles Perry
Tyler Gutierrez
The portraits it was trained on were likely 99% Europeans considering the style it's emulating
Although honestly Kiryu doesn't even look asian in that screenshot
Benjamin Johnson
Ryder Mitchell
Josiah Long
Joseph Taylor
Hudson Bennett
Easton Morales
Anthony Gray
Zachary Torres
N
Ian Hall
>Justificial Intelligence
This is unironically great.
Leo Turner
Brody Cooper
>her pepper grinder is bigger than yours
Brayden Myers
limmy broke it
James Gomez
I'm having fun
Jaxon Morris
>no difference
lel. limmy so prim looking already.
Jason James
Henry Bennett
*glass breaks*
Ayden Bell
Looks almost like a human in the portrait.
Ryan Peterson
Staying up late, Yea Forums?
Zachary Gomez
kek
Ryder Cox
Levi Kelly
cute
Jaxon Bailey
"The Andalusian Merchant"
Easton Kelly
Camden Wilson
The Kramer ain't got shit on this
Lincoln Rivera
Blake Sullivan
Kevin Cruz
Nolan James
?
Nolan Myers
Ryder Hill
WOLL DON GROFFONDOR WOLL DON
HOWOVOR
Henry Martinez
Jordan Sullivan
hahahahahhahaaha
Ian Foster
lol the crux of my argument has nothing to do with modern art. it's not fair to compare games to painting or sculpture, the times they were developed in are too different. a better comparison is video games and film. anyways, most people who argue modern art is a scam don't get modern art (for one, most of what they hate is postmodern art, and most of that is literally satire on the art industry, but people are too dense to understand that no, an artist is not seriously trying to portray a toilet or an apple as art)
Isaiah Mitchell
I THINK MODERN NEO CLASSICAL SUCKS!
Wyatt Turner
even the neckbeard has been accentuated
Jacob Taylor
Doesn't anyone else find this disturbing?
I mean, what if this technology has existed for a long time and all the famous historical people were just made up.
David Scott
>e
Carson Ramirez
Take your pills
Eli Gray
That looks like the top half of Jim's face stitched onto the bottom half of Stanley's face
Caleb Ward
Joseph Hill
Oliver Rogers
kek
Jack Morris
Luis Sullivan
Jason Rivera
Jace Lopez
Juan Morgan
I'm buff!
Christian Lopez
Christopher Bailey
i typically find conspiracies more comforting than reality
Nathan Morales
Gavin James
Dostoevsky protagonist right there
Ethan White
Camden Perez
Elijah Brooks
Jaxon Miller
every time I put a face in I feel like I'm going to make an eldritch abomination that I wasn't supposed to see
Austin Price
>The future is jedward
Liam Anderson
Christopher Fisher
____?
Isaac Young
Wyatt Myers
Oliver Hughes
Jaxson Murphy
Ayden Moore
Aiden Gonzalez
>t.
Cameron Long
ooga bogga?
Ethan Cooper
Pretty good....
Gavin Butler
Xavier Martin
Holy shit.
Thomas Williams
Michael Watson
Joseph Peterson
Jordan Brooks
Jeremiah Campbell
beautiful
Michael Jackson
kek
Andrew Robinson
Jordan Martinez
nice
Christopher Young
Isaiah Kelly
Lincoln Cooper
Yes. They are already art.
Logically they are some combination of art, storytelling, sound, music and computer science.
I feel the problem with having this discussion is people think "art" has to be artsy, and many "art games" try to focus so hard on everything but gameplay. I think games as a medium provides ample mechanics in which to make artistic expression. Gameplay itself can be artistic in and of itself.
Gabriel Fisher
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls.
Ayden Hughes
Camden Peterson
Nicholas Richardson
Jeremiah Thompson
Parker James
Julian Barnes
Another downgrade in a sony game
Sebastian Rogers
Looks like that French king.
Jeremiah King
>My face
>My Soul
Charles Brown
Carter Fisher
Samuel Garcia
Nathaniel Phillips
Perfection
Caleb Martinez
Isaac Miller
what if we're all just inhabitants of his chin
Jack Jackson
Charles Hughes
Thomas Kelly
if you took the face of everyone on Yea Forums and made a composite of them, this is what you would get
Aiden Richardson
Beautiful
Brody Sanders
You heard it here first people, mexicans aren't human
Xavier Cooper
Firstly your post reeks of progressive faggotry. Dilate. Secondly video games like reading are an active and engaging art form thus you cant quite take the same approach to it as other forms as you describe. We've ventured to far into emulating reality and visual quality as opposed to good story telling and complex game design, and at the moment companies employ bargin basement fan fiction writers. While most of the current stream of games are trash pop art there are gems of actual real video game artistry floating around.
Anthony Brown
Jaxson Johnson
ok this is epic
David Rivera
The chad photoshop vs the virgin portrait
Samuel Reyes
Isaiah Collins
GET THIS COONERY OUT OF MY COURT
Caleb Lee
Jose Jones
Parker Morgan
Jayden White
Bad art is still art.
Thomas Phillips
Christopher James
You are the one of my dreams
Kayden Clark
>stop not being a tree
Zachary Murphy
games are consumer and profit driven instead of being about the expression of the people making it, so it can't never be art.
Zachary Parker
Jason Bailey
Alexander Ortiz
disappointing
Gavin Hall
Kayden Wilson
Cursed image, do not open
Brayden Campbell
Dylan Morris
>kill them Johnny kill them all
Ryder Sanchez
oh come on man don't ruin the fun
Robert Jackson
Image limit reached lads, new thread?
Parker Lewis
>image limit
cringe
Aiden Morales
>Painting of the real Jack the Ripper uncovered in London, more at 11
Landon Sanders
That's not what they're arguing about. This conversation isn't "are video games literally art" it's "are video games high art/art that is on the level of other art forms"
i assume that you're calling my post progressive faggotry because it's not positive towards capitalism. i am well aware that you can't just have video games imitate other forms of art, i don't think they should, i think they should develop as their own artform. what would you argue is an example of "real video game artistry"?
Ethan Perry
go back to plebbit if you don't like it faggot
Ayden Allen
that actually makes him look cooler which is surprising
Brayden Johnson
I can't download pair for some reason.
Austin Green
John Lithgow?
Charles Mitchell
screenshot and put into paint and crop
unless you're a phoneposter lol
Bentley Walker
I know, but I'm just curious if it's my browser problem or site.
Benjamin Lewis
Or you could just click download couple.
It's the thing at the bottom with two arrows pointing at an envelope
Landon Smith
cringe
Henry Myers
>that kike forehead
Jonathan James
It doesn't work for me as I said above(firefox).
Charles Miller
ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
Colton Perry
>we truly wuz
Henry Anderson
>are video games high art/art that is on the level of other art forms
Well that's subjective based on who you ask. My dad doesn't get video games, but me and my brother can discuss them for hours.
High art as a concept is outdated due to the fact we no longer make that art for kings and queens to gawk at. Art is enjoyed by everyone now, not just the "educated."
Video games are an astoundingly new medium with no real inspiration to draw from aside from "real" games like sports or board games. Film had a rich history of stageplay, but games within a few decades had such a diverse range of content made that we seemingly pulled out of our ass in terms of the functional game mechanics.
It's honestly just a silly question to ask.
David Garcia
WHERE THE NEW THREAD AT and keep it vidya related you dumb fucks i don't want to look at pics of your dumbshit classmates.
Isaiah Garcia
someone make a new thread these are great
Benjamin Rogers
underrated
Ayden Reyes
Austin Martin
NOW it's art!
Nolan Morris
Video games being new is a big reason why I wouldn't consider them art yet. As someone who is pretty experienced in both film and games especially, would I ever in a million years feel like comparing a game to something like 2001, Persona or even Akira is fair? Absolutely not. As I mentioned earlier, game devs are JUST starting to learn how to make a point mechanically. I'd say that games are firmly in the realm of pop art or kitsch for now. Within the first 30 or 40 years of film existing as an art form, defining techniques had just been introduced. I wouldn't say that film hit it's stride as "great art" until around the 40s or 50s, when it came into it's own and stopped relying on techniques established in other art forms to carry it. Games have been "figured out" in around the same time. It's a matter of time to see when they'll hit their stride, but I'd argue that it'll probably take longer, because it's being developed in a commercialist system. Let's see how it goes.
Nicholas Mitchell
...
Kevin Martinez
>MY VISION IS AUGMENTED
Xavier Phillips
Game mechanics have already been used to make a point in several games. AAA games are the equivalent of mass consumer films, you don't go to Transformers for "High Art".
Christian Miller
retarded picture in, retarded picture out
Michael Mitchell
>would I ever in a million years feel like comparing a game to something like 2001
>2001
Yikes.
Ryder Johnson
That's the other point. Video games ARE the newest medium out there and is probably the last to realistically exist. Within the next 25 years I think games will have its Citizen Kane moment.
>games are pop art
>pop art
>not art in and of itself
Andrew Carter
nice