Why did FFXIV 1.23 look so much better?

dont let the pics fool you.
the game was horrible, like you dont have any idea how fucking horrible in reality was.

fuckin' exactly it looked way better

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1.0's hud is a mess what the fuck are you talking about

Did people move onto bashing the graphics since shb is universally agreed on as good?

Garuda is displeased with you

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They went the FFXI and Valkyrie Profile route of making sure the menu sound effects sounded full and satisfying, because they knew you'd be listening to them over and over.
ARR's sound effects aren't necessarily bad, they just lack some of the punch of the old ones.

oh so you think managing a bunch of tacked-on meters is so much better gameplay? yeah i really like looking at menus while i play instead of playing
how good would you say it is compared to the other expac's? i was waiting for more graphical improvements but since they didn't upgrade shit imma shitpost about the graphics. suck on my balls SE

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it's like listening to a bose sound system versus a cell phone recording of a movie, played back on a cell phone from 1998

>better graphics
>worse irrelevant shit
lmao

It did look better. But it ran like shit too. Game was beyond horribly optimized. Fucking pot plants had the same amount of polygons as character models.

exactamundo

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I know there's a way you can replace the music in XIV with custom tracks, but if there's a 1.0 sound pack mod, I'd install it in a heartbeat.

Vanilla was trying to push the game graphically too much, in 2.0 they intentionally lowered the graphics to improve performance (mostly because the previous gen versions)

wtf i got like 90fps idk what kind of tin can you were trying to run it on

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damn there is an idea. anyone ever heard of a 1.0 sound mod? i guess you could just replace the local data but idk if anyone has ever tried before

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>Lighting
>Performance
Irrelevant

Yes good job achieving that on a 9 year old game.

it was mostly to get it to run on ps3, so they cut almost all the animations, all the racial armor and animations, cut the poly count on the models way down, lowered the textures to pre-PS2 era, and then to top it all off they removed PS3 access after that anyway

LOL

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The game is in its best state right now imo
This expac has been a step up from both HW and SB in every way. Great music, great locations, a story everyone loved and gameplay changes that makes it feel pretty solid. Eden raid is good in normal mode and seems extremely promising for savage
Just install reshade or some shit if you want better visuals so bad

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against textures shading and animations fuck yes and performance is always bad if you got a trash heap

how did you get shadows on the character face? is that a mod?
your ss actually doesn't look too bad
what do you recommend? right now the game is too much of an eyesore but if there are some mods i might reconsider

Just get gshade and flick through the presets

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it still doesn't have fucking animations with the player and npcs lmao

>a step up from both HW and SB
You say this as though those two expansions weren't leagues apart in terms of quality

Vanilla XIV was insane and overambitious as fuck in terms of visuals while also being on a horrendously designed engine

the game is the same shit as always. 1.X til 2.1 was the best time.

Thats with toggling reshade for 1 minute
I normally play on ps4 so I don't have any more screen caps
Reshade just slaps some filters and stuff over the game to make it more appealing if you desire. The games natural textures look FINE at a distance too. My point is that it all works. Personally I don't know any new players who go "wow this game looks bad" when they first start it. It has an appealing art style

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>I don't play the game, I only look at it on Yea Forums
ok

yeah the wol can princess carry yshtola oh wait he can headpat ryne oh wait he can hug alisaie oh wait lmao fuck you

>he

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you've convinced me. if i ever pick it up again i'll be using reshade when i do.

really wish they'd just increase the overall quality back to 1.x levels since they fuckin' dropped ps3 support anyway

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Performance for FFXIV 1.0 was bad even on better machines
The whole thing was just an unoptimized mess

he she doesn't fucking matter wol can't do shit lazy fucking devs won't add animations wol and npc

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I recommend you try to immerse yourself into the story. Do not rush to 80 and do not look up guides for casual content. Just sit back and try to enjoy it
There's also some mod for HD hair textures I believe. Go look around

Also if you love taking pictures, check out gpose. It has everything one needs to take nice screen caps

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dude i played it on a 4-slot toaster, i got 40fps but my friend's 2-slot toaster only got 30

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is that hd hair? the other shots i've seen hair looks like PS1

i have stormblood. i played the msq when it came out. the endgame was terrible though, so i quit and haven't played since. terrible endgame gameplay + terrible graphics makes it pretty hard to play. 1.23 had great graphics & gameplay at endgame so i miss it

>used the same engine as XIII
Explains why it ran like shit, but at least it was prety

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Surely you jest

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>Yea Forums is fucking getting "nostalgic" for 4.0

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I'm posting ps4 screen caps right now so no

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>Yea Forums is now pretending 1.0 was good

Hahaha jfc

I don't really know what you mean, the general consensus is that 4.0 was the weakest expansion

the problem is that performance absolutely falls apart once there's a certain number of people on screen. 1.0 had poor multi core support while 2.0 has excellent multicore support since its built for PS4 and modern PCs.

benchmark is incredibly misleading since its a scripted low player number scenario. in the actual game fps was terrible because the second it starts displaying 50 characters in the same screen frame it dips hard as fuck.

look at pic related it looks like PS1 hair

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Holy fuck I got my PC back up and working now so I no longer have to play this on my shitty laptop at 10fps thank nep.

That's ps3 you dumb underage fuck

>we'll never get a texture update even after dropping ps3 and x32
>not even modders touch that shit

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Literally consoles, they had to dumb down the game to be able to run on that piece of shit ps3

1.x performance wasn't impacted by like 100 people on screen. if there was like 100 people it wouldn't only load like 40 or 50 models or something. maybe it was rig-dependent. in ARR the only time you see that many on screen is during FATEs, which are a joke, and even more of a joke is that when ARR came out, you could see your 100 people but the FATE ENEMY wouldn't load on your screen. what a joke, and all the downgrading was all for that. pic related

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there's not a single 1.0 video out there that has good framerate while there's 50+ people on screen.

i played at 60fps in 1.x no matter how many people were on screen. only lower end rigs had problems but the min specs were quit high. a lot of people tried to play at 1080p with a graphics card below the 720p min requirements

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Post screens or keep complaining

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that hair does not look like ps3 quality. pic related

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it's hard to take you seriously when you show no FPS meter or not even a video.

you're welcome i think
ikr

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that's ps4

Until dawn is ps4 dumb fuck

for real, & then they cut ps3 support entirely LOL.

it's literally ffxi "ps2 limitations" all over again

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Both
>SOULLESS

me thinkey gwaphics most important thingggg give meee vaniwwaaa the most lauded mmo ever

Love this armor set

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>Want to make Raubahn in character creator
>Can't
Why even play?

No reason to not bring the quality back, they are making enough money to be able to

>there's not a single 1.0 video out there that has good framerate while there's 50+ people on screen.
here are a few numbnuts
youtube.com/watch?v=ksBTlg24sVc
youtube.com/watch?v=VP_TETorr0s
youtube.com/watch?v=qiCznHrs3yc
youtube.com/watch?v=kiUuNLk95Hk
youtube.com/watch?v=l9Cfe2GsXYw

that does look good not gonna lie

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Kino

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what were your specs at the time

Name your favourite race
Favourite class
Favourite city state
Favourite expansion (so far)
Favourite JoJo part

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oh ye of little faith
youtube.com/watch?v=Vnn8Iau2y0k
youtube.com/watch?v=VGdz1gjQPrE&t=150s

not sure cause no counter on the 2nd one but looks like 60. most people like me tuned it to 60 then turned the counter off for captures

those videos don't even have 50 people in a on screen frame and the 2nd video is obviously fucking laggy.

>Name your favourite race
Hyur and Viera
>Favourite class
MCH
>Favourite city state
Dunno if Eulmore counts.
>Favourite expansion (so far)
SHB
>Favourite JoJo part
Parts 1-4 and 6 equally tbqh

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here's some ps3 hair. now shut up and tell me top pic is ps3 hair too you mongrels

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What didn't you like about 5? 7 or 8?

this pic has almost convinced me to get shadowbringers. post more!

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>No reason to not bring the quality back, they are making enough money to be able to
preach it!

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Does this look like good framerate to you?

Benchmark is not a reliable test, it's a highly scripted cutscene. Try actual final release gameplay with real players.

2nd video is a ghost town, try gameplay with 50 players in a zone.

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fuck you contrarian extraordinaire

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>favorite race
Elezen
>favorite class
Machinist
>favorite city state
Ishgard
>favorite expansion
Heavensward, though Shadowbringers is a close second
>favorite JoJo part
Steel Ball Run

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Elezen
MCH
Ul'dah
HW (but that's because I haven't reached the rest yet)
Speed Ball Run, although honestly I enjoyed reading most of them. 6 got kinda boring until the finale.

get the fuck out of here dumbass. i played 1.x in it's entirety in 60fps and you can get the fuck right out of here with that shit

viera
warrior
gridania
shadowbringers
diamond is unbreakable

>what were your specs at the time
i7-970, 2xgtx 470s w/2GB RAM, think about 8 or 16 GB of RAM, played off SSD. built the rig just for ffxiv 1.0 launch

>no art of Automaton Queen
would any drawfags like to give it a go?

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> i played 1.x in it's entirety in 60fps
maybe in cutscenes and in low pop areas because the game was so trash nobody played it.

I stopped reading after part 6. Part 5 I felt was a mess after the early, and the art was getting too sloppy for me since i was reading it in black and white. The characters are memey but never really appealed to me
That certainly is ps3 textures but at their peak because XIII is not an MMO

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elezen
limsa
heavensward

that ps4 depth of field is lookin' good. when did they add that?

mhm yesjust drop:
>$600 on sli gpus
>$300 on cpu
>$200 on motherboard
>$200 on 16gb of ddr3 ram
>$200 on first gen ssds
just to play ffxiv at framrrate

That's something you can do in gpose. It's not specific to ps4.

you are trash & you got played by not being LEGACY muthafuckahhhhh

>i played 1.x in it's entirety in 60fps
So where's a picture or video of the FPS meter

you dun read correctly!

only if i can draw it with wide hips and big tiddis

gpose? what now? u sayin' that depth of field is not on ps4 ffxiv normally?

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go for it

The game alwaya has dof

However they did start to make use of it more late sb and shb iirc along with more interesting camera angles

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it's up your ass. if you don't believe you are a DUMBASS. no one has to provide you with a fuckin' fps counter, get the fuck outta this thread

Viera.
Gunbreaker but it might be changing to Red Mage.
If I'm not allowed to count Ishgard, then Limsa Lominsa.
Shadowbringers.
Stone Ocean because it has Foo Fighters.

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you say you played 60fps, people want proof, you show laggy videos with people in it and non laggy videos with nobody in it, hard to believe unless you show better proof.

and that's a good thing

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Hyur
Paladin
Ishgard or Crystarium
HW or Shad, both are on the same level to me
part 1

lol
i've provided you with a shit load of proof that this game played smoothly at 60fps in 1.x

now get the fuck outta here, or if you won't shut your mouth, at least show up in person so i can beat your ass

What I believe is that you got 60FPS in cutscenes, the benchmark, and when nobody is around.

What I don't believe is that you got 60FPS when playing the actual game with lots of people in it. I mean for fucks sake the review videos of the game are played on top of the line gaming PCs of that era and they are still laggy.

na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/001261.html

depth of field is used in cutscene and gpose feature. if you want it on all the time then play on pc and use reshade but I don't recommend it because dof is fucking awful for combat and should only be used for non combat screenshots.

Just started playing xiv, am I in the wrong for skipping most of the dialogue for the ARR story because this shit is so boring right now. They're really making me go get wine and cheese

a game being stuck on dx9 forever is a nightmare from the programming side.

Catgirl
Red Mage
Ishgard
Shadowbringers

These just look like they were taken on lower graphics settings

Also Garuda is for breeding

>in 1.x
That's sort of vague, 1.0 was an absolute shit show and would make high end still shit their pants.
After yoshi took over there was some progressive graphical and performance improvement though they never got rid of the ui lag because the whole game was literally built on it.

It's cool if you skip most of the filler shit in ARR yeah, but if you find yourself skipping everything in HW then maybe the game isn't for you
Story in ARR picks up around level 34ish

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Yes you're wrong ADHD faggot

You're so full of shit lmao

Au Ra
MNK
Ishgard
Shadowbringers
Battle Tendency

Not that guy, played the game starting in around january 2011 and it always ran badly. I had a gtx 580, i7 970 and 8gb of ram, still never saw more than 10fps any time more than 20ish people were on screen. He's bullshitting

>people romanticizing 1.0
How are you faggots so fucking stupid. The graphics were better, sure, but it ran like shit because of the awfully optimized engine. Stop. The rest of the game was shit and nobody liked it either. Don't try to say it had soul when it was a steaming pile of shit that was literally blown up.

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1.23 was PC exclusive, ARR had to run on PS3

This is why even WoW has better textures than FFXIV at times, PS3's lack of VRAM was terrible

I fucking hate this game is being held back by consoles. GIVE ME MIQOTE ASSES ALREADY, YOU PROMISED.

>Name your favourite race
Highlander
>Favourite class
Paladin
>Favourite city state
Im gonna pretend Ishgard counts
>Favourite expansion (so far)
HW but ShB is close
>Favourite JoJo part
Part 7, Part 4 of the OG universe

All 2.0+ really needs is a texture revamp. It's actually pathetic that so many of the current textures are obviously stretched or are terribly low-res. You can count the pixels on Hien's robe.

Lalafell
MNK
Ul'dah
ARR
Phantom blood

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Au Ra xaela
Red Mage
Ishgard
Shadowniggers
Cell Saga

Maybe they'll do a texture update when the game eventually gets ported to PS5 and Xbox Scarlett.

People aren't saying 1.0 is good. We're saying the graphics and animation is nice. Which it is.

Why are you so butthurt?

based

Compare the 1.0 Garuda HM fight: youtube.com/watch?v=goKSqF9fldE

To the ARR Garuda fight: youtube.com/watch?v=zqJRnD5HuZw

If you genuinely think that 1.0 wasn't the better game you're a fucking madman.

Take your meds, tanaka-san

All you fags begging for 1.0 shit never played it.

It was a fucking nightmare and deserved to die.

dude the game played great. believe whatever you want

the obsession with graphics and animations is exactly why 1.0 wasn't good. they put most of their time and budget into it and didn't put the same amount of attention to the gameplay and other aspects.

go watch the 1.0 documentary sometime, the devs tell you exactly what went wrong during development.

Hyur
Paladin
Ishgard
Shadowbringers
Part 4.

>we'll never have a main villain with a halberd again

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Okay and?
Who's actually saying the gameplay is good?

Name your favourite race
Bangaa>Hrothgar
Favourite class
AST
Favourite city state
Ishgard
Favourite expansion (so far)
HW
Favourite JoJo part
Don't watch anime

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It played like ass bro. Every UI element was server sided. Meaning if the game server or your connection lagged, so did everything you pressed on the HUD even the damn graphics options menu.

so now you got shit graphics and shit gameplay?

you ffxiv fags are the laughing stock of this board

That's not a halberd that's a gunhalberd

what were they thinking
youtube.com/watch?v=LL0N7i-Wvv4

Still astroturfing I see mr Blizzdrone

It looked better because 1.0 was a proper PC only game and ARR is console kiddy trash

1.0 was awfully slow and clunky

>Let's build the ui around scripts that need server side confirmation every time something happen. Genius!
is apparently what they were thinking.

this, everyone I have ever talked to about 1.X fucking hated it and told me to stay the fuck away when I expressed interest
game was such a shit show they had to give out free gametime just to keep people playing, it was so bad it caused a calamity in universe
I hear 1.23b was much better, but I also hear that wasn't saying much
1.X looked nice and had some solid presentation, fantastic music that is being used even now and it had some cool motion acted cutscenes, but for the actual meat of the game, the combat and practically everything else, it was fucking trash.

Now show the uwu fight

gameplay and graphics look good to me.
streamable.com/r7wcz

>tfw still have all my old weathered gear and that tattoo from 1.0

feels good man

That camera in 1.0 is way too low to the ground, it looks awful.

I just really wish with shadowbringers, they actually give Yoshi-P more budget. I know they tried in shadowbringers, but I really want some mocap cutscenes or an HD texture pack.

Elezen
5.0 MCH
Ishgard
Shadowbringers
Part 2

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>game was such a shit show they had to give out free gametime just to keep people playing,
Sort of. They suspended the need to pay a sub to play for about a year I think? Basically, they thought the game was in such a bad state that charging a subscription for it would be an insult. They reinstated sub fees after a while.

if 1.0 was so great, why did you fans let it die (literally)?

They would be mad not to give him more budget now.

>they had to give out free gametime just to keep people playing
Rather than giving game time, the game was entirely subscription free for multiple months. You still had to buy the game but at the time it was garbage bin price, like 10 bucks or something.

ok why the FUCK they did a bait and switch with nanamo

1.0 and great shouldn't be in the same sentence.
youtube.com/watch?v=vNm-t9eWSvA

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wtf this looks like shit. I can't see anything.

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It's just a trick of the shaders, Yea Forums.

>1.0
>fans
I'm sure all ten of them could have kept the game alive if they were billionaires.

It wasn't a ps3 game.

Hopefully after the massive success of Classic WoW in a few weeks Yoshi-P will have no choice but to make 1.0 servers so we can leave the casualized mess that XIV has become behind.

I remember a long time ago that EB Games was giving away 1.0 for free if you traded in a game that had more than $5 trade in value.

You forgot.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is still getting developed. Gotta siphon money into that. ;)

They had planned for it after the initial launch but after seeing the game on pc being such the shitshow they indefinitely suspended the ps3 version.

This is the correct answer btw
2.0 xiv and beyond looks dull by default but it allows you to play for long periods of time without hurting your eyes

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Did 1.0 have crafting and gathering leves? If there was no endgame content at the start at least you could sell a lot of shit, right?

yoshiplaughing.gif

I feel like that dungeon set and the ravel gear were the only truly new sets from dungeons this time around. Everything else was recolors of shit that already existed.

>Did 1.0 have crafting and gathering leves?
Not that I remember. There was also no crafting log.

why so many main menu options? attributes could be merged with gear since attributes only come from gear. social lists and linkshells are the same thing.

Miqo'te
MNK
Ishgard
new player but i'm enjoying Heavensward so far
i don't watch jojo

He laughed off a similar question not too long ago.

youtube.com/watch?v=dhMr9CQfrz8

Stipulate in what that has to do with anything when the subject matter is about graphics

Sure there was. It was annoying, I think.

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I'm confused why'd he start laughing but still needed to get translated the question?
Did he just hear 1.x and go oh fuck.

Roegadyn
GNB
Gridania
SHB is on even footing with HW right now, but will probably pass it
4 and 7 are equally good for different reasons

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>people actually like DoF
>it's not just a joke setting or compensating for low quality models in the distance
>they actually fucking like it

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Yoshida understands english
Aimi translates because it's her job
youtube.com/watch?v=38P6NwzvCpI

>Same engine as XIII

It doesnt but okay. It uses a janked out derivative

He does understand english but it's not perfect and he might miss some details about the questions which is why is also getting translated.

>They had planned for it after the initial launch
I would have honestly liked to see what hideous form that would have taken. 1.0 barely worked on great PCs at the time, it would have never run on PS3. Even ARR barely ran on PS3 and that was after the game was downgraded significantly in terms of visuals.

youtu.be/KW6fL5X1fM4?t=67
Bear witness to that silky smooth 15 fps.

>These just look like they were taken on lower graphics settings
1.x really did look so much better

2.0 was dx9, and they switched to dx11 for 3.0 although from what i can tell they only added reflections to the floor

Stop lying it looked like shit.

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Which set is that one?

1.0's female models had better asses and thighs

Why cant we have the old animatioms and textures back fucking why. Make ot a PC exclusive toggle squeenix no one will give a fuck

It also added the fucked up effect to the ground that makes it look all blocky and terrible when viewed up close.

We do technically have the old animations for some of the moves. It's sped up though. We can't have meaty animations because they're too slow.

And now we're past that. The game is never going to revert to 1.0 gameplay, quit having a fucking aneurysm about it, now the graphics are a topic of contention instead, it's not even worth spazzing about god damn

1.0 maybe wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't fuck up the client/server communication so badly

Menus and actions taking longer than a second to actually register your input was unacceptable.

I could have lived with the slow combat if they made attacks as meaningful as they were in something like XI.

Still ShB turned out alright, so I'm not going to pretend they should have stuck with the old formula.

1.0 had better textures for sure since it was PC exclusive, but if you want to really get technical then 1.0 was objectively worse when it came to graphics compared to 2.0.

>No Background Tessellation
>No Water Tessellation
>No Transparent Lighting
>No High Dynamic Range Lighting
>No Horizon Based Ambient Occlusion
>No Real Time Reflections on the characters or world
>Shadow Cascading was turned down
>Depth of Field scaled directly with Internal Resolution instead of having its own parameters

what chest piece?

turn off parallax occlusion and its fixed

Level 73 dungeon tank gear

Skalla aiming

>Implying "fans" played the game to begin with

The amount of "people" who havent played a final fantasy before this one is fucking staggering. I'm in some fresh zoomer hell, all this "hey remember X" content we've been getting is ill-founded since no one doing the fights knows who the fuck they're fighting

So what you're saying is that 2.0 uses all this newer tech and still manages to look way fucking worse graphically. It actually doesn't get more embarrassing than that

They have a contract with Sony to uphold console parity. So if PC officially gets any additional graphics option then PS4 must get it as well. PS4 probably can't handle 4k textures.

1.0 looks worse in all areas except for textures and polygon count.

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Might looks better once they drop ps4 support.

retard

It's going to be like FFXI where they have the low res PS2 option and the high res Xbox 360 option.

It ran like absolute shit because one flower pot had the same amount of polys as a player character

If what
says is true, they might actually upgrade the pc graphics with the ps5 version.

I was more powerful graphically but holy SHIT did the engine have major issues.

ARR's runs 50x better but it's just really ugly.

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>Xboxfags can't play FF14 because Microsoft doesn't want Xboxfags to be chatting with or forming FCs with people on other platforms

Post em

wheres that one bullshot that was like THE poster screenshot for ARR where its like a party fighting a chimera and the lighting and graphics look INFINITELY better than the toaster quality shit we have to live with now

Enviroments are better now though, it jut that the models are wore now.

So long as we're not talking about the cities, I agree 100%.

Is Reshade only good for screenshots or can you use it in battle?

Miqo'te
Limsa Lominsa
Shadowbringers
Part 3

1.xx cutscenes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARR ""cutscenes""

>low internal resolution setting
yeah no shit it's going to look bad like that

All you really want (unless you're a fucking moron) is HDR for some less washed out color, anti-aliasing, and maybe some sharpness. I run it at all times just fine.

lol

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for now, the rules can easily change once they release the next xbox in 2020. it's not the first time microsoft has bend the rules (xbox live gold not required to play ffxi)

Yeah hope so. It's just a shame because it'd be good to have some extra players to chill and chat with

>this shit looks mind blowing compared to what we have now
>this shit ran on fucking PS3s
WHY

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was that boat real time travel like the FFXI boats, I miss that shit so much

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You recommend a preset?

Giraffe
MNK
Ishgard
Shad
6, fight me

It was a pre-rendered screenshot. It didn't run in real time on PC or PS3.

>Compare the 1.0 Garuda HM fight: youtube.com/watch?v=goKSqF9fldE
>To the ARR Garuda fight: youtube.com/watch?v=zqJRnD5HuZw
>If you genuinely think that 1.0 wasn't the better game you're a fucking madman.
based & 1.0-pilled

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1.0 Coerthas is something I honestly miss

Nah, console makers will keep doing what they have been doing until now, whoever has the dominant position will refuse crossplay with the other console, and whoever doesn't will bitch about it.

no u

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Never played with any because I don't trust people to not overload everything with oversaturation and DoF and other undesirables.
I just eliminated all the meme shaders I knew I'd never ever use and ticked a few boxes.

PS4 and Xbone already have crossplay with each other. Rocket League, Fortnite, Dauntless, etc. Sooner or later FFXIV will be on that list.

based and halberd-pilled

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So redpill me on 1.0. What was it about? Were there any major plot threads that were set up and abandoned because of the whole Meteor thing?

The old engine was only good at one thing, looking pretty.
Didn't it also have a super low limit of displaying characters on-screen because that shit was made with the PS3 and FFXIII in mind?

There was no need for them to remove the OG textures, it's really lame they scrapped them just for PS3 parity

i agree but that was literally the only problem in 1.x. look how cookie-cutter ARR has become. the endgame raids are a complete joke. it's 8-player dance dance revolution. 1.23x was starting to have some really nice raids and bosses

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Can I use...your preset? ;)

Wait, Coerthas wasn't snowy in 1.0?

You do know that PC and PS4 can play together, yes?

Yes, and?

>It looked better because 1.0 was a proper PC only game and ARR is console kiddy trash
i'm afraid this poster is onto something

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It could display tons of pepople just fine. Just sometimes it had real issues fetching their data from the servers.

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Nope. Well canonically their winters would be, but it didn't become a permanently frozen shithole until this asshole brought down Dalamud

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This was a 1.23 boss fight, it looks like shit.
youtube.com/watch?v=HI8oib1o2_4

Coerthas turning into a winter wonderland was a direct result of Dalamud and Bahamut fucking everything up.

>>Let's build the ui around scripts that need server side confirmation every time something happen. Genius!
>is apparently what they were thinking.
i'm pretty sure tanaka was doing coke in his office for 2 years trying to come up with the most fool-proof anti cheat system
the combat was actually WAY better. ARR combat really, really sucks ass in comparison and that's what sucks the most about it. 2 things were downgraded: the graphics and the combat. the combat is the hardest part to get over

>pre-rendered screenshot
b-but thats illegal!

>>tfw still have all my old weathered gear and that tattoo from 1.0
>feels good man
hell yeah

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>I just really wish with shadowbringers, they actually give Yoshi-P more budget. I know they tried in shadowbringers, but I really want some mocap cutscenes or an HD texture pack.
they don't even need more budget, they literally already have all that. SE has been doing this for decades. they just cheap out on their MMOs and try to milk it for all they can while the directors of their flagships bail out of the company

Reminder that if you aren't playing as a tank it's canon that someone who isn't even the WoL and is just some rando is tanking your bosses for you and as such is a tougher guy than you are.

1.23 had barebones fight mechanics. No tank swaps, no divebombs, no prey mechanic, the list goes on and on. most fights in 1.23 boiled down to tank and spanking.

It was a concept image for arr. It was never meant to be indicative of the final product.

just install reshade bucko!

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But was your name in the credits?

Yeah. Didn't think so.

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What do you mean?
The team itself needs more budget. They're just giving all the cash to fucking ff7r.

>Hopefully after the massive success of Classic WoW in a few weeks Yoshi-P will have no choice but to make 1.0 servers so we can leave the casualized mess that XIV has become behind.
based

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Actually paying a sub in 1.x is more like a mark of shame.

Wow that is bad

>20 minutes of standing around
yep that was 1.0
youtube.com/watch?v=lW5DnpidMiY

yeah it did

This guy was in a 1.0 'nostalgia' thread a few days ago. He's completely delusional and thinks the Nael Van Darnus fight is the pinnacle of boss battles.
It's not worth trying to call him a retard, he's so far gone into the retard zone he doesn't even know he's a retard.

Actually they need more staff members, budget is the least of their concern.
jp.square-enix.com/recruit/career/push/3dbd/

What good is having a high budget if you can't fill in employee slots?

my screen is kind bright so i had to turn the brightness ness in game to 0 so the gamma might look low for you, sorry
this should be better

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>shield of the savage

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wtf, if you keep staring at the leaves,they move by themselves.

They actually don't. What they need is more people who actually want to work on the game. They have had open positions on the xiv team for months and none of them has been filled.

I guess he actually went full retard.

I hate how small the text is and how the text boxes have so much white space.

>Race
Lalas, Elezen close second, Hroth third
>Class
PLD
>City
Ul'Dah
>Expac
ShB
>JoJo
8

Highlander
Samurai
Crystarium
Shadowbringers
DIU

is this for real?

One thing I never expected seeing was nostalgia for 1.0.
The game was dying for a reason, it was 10% actual content, 90% parties farming enemy chains because that was by far the most efficient way of leveling. and I was sucker enough to get the emblem in my account, I hate it

Setting Parallax Occlusion to "Normal" effectively turns it off.

>The amount of "people" who havent played a final fantasy before this one is fucking staggering. I'm in some fresh zoomer hell, all this "hey remember X" content we've been getting is ill-founded since no one doing the fights knows who the fuck they're fighting
damn that is a good point, depressing.
>So what you're saying is that 2.0 uses all this newer tech and still manages to look way fucking worse graphically. It actually doesn't get more embarrassing than that
lol, damn

Wouldn't have known this to be the case until ARR hit.

At least we have a considerably lower subscription fee for life and that exclusive stupid calamity ring.

We have been getting 1.0 threads for the past few days or maybe weeks for whatever reason. My guess is one particularly delusional autism didn't like ShB and decided to put his nostalgia googles at maximum strength.

Play wow

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Gunbreaker
Ishgard
Heavensward
youtube.com/watch?v=NLzJNYYCPfk

lol i love this retard posting these toaster pics

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Fair enough.

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ouch. saved

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>1920x1080
you're a toaster

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HAHAHAHAHA i REMEMBER this shit

it didn't really dawn on us how bad ARR was gonna look until after we played the beta

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>Race
Hyur (Highlander)
>Class
PLD
>City
Ishgard (also Limsa)
>Expac
HW although ShB has been much better than i though. Emet Selch was a great villain.
>JoJo
2, Joeseph was fun but im a showfag so what the hell do i know

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Because 1440p is that big of a diference...

>1.xx cutscenes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ARR ""cutscenes""
based & motion capture cutscene pilled

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It's just one autist going through sunken cost fallacy.

1080p (2,073,600 pixels) vs 1440p (3,686,400 pixels), it's a 78% increase in quality.

>its been almost 8 years and nobody has made a mod pack replacing all of the models and textures

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what's a good shader to use?

>1.0 Coerthas is something I honestly miss
>Wait, Coerthas wasn't snowy in 1.0?

>nice Coerthas you got there... 5 separate vast zones of forest.. be a shame if.. someone dropped the poly count, made it snowy in a 2004 sort of way and then just.. made it a blip in terms of game progression wouldn't it?

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Imagine thinking anyone who enjoys the game in it's current state, actually cares if the "board" laughs at them. LAMOing at ur life.

Yeah is it me or were the jaggies not so bad before? I feel like I'm noticing them way more in this xpac.

Because that would take an eternity unless you have a dedicated team behind it. It's not moddable like Skyrim where you have drag and drop .esm & .esp files. You have to go and fuck with Square Enix's proprietary DAT files.

look at yuffie, the monk on the right in this screenshot. why can't we have lighting like that? wtf

yup>It was a pre-rendered screenshot. It didn't run in real time on PC or PS3.
they hoodwinked us

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Not really. The picture was shown as a proof of concept. Concept art and proof of concepts never match the final product.

>So redpill me on 1.0. What was it about? Were there any major plot threads that were set up and abandoned because of the whole Meteor thing?
BRO
for one we had the ascians, which as i understand are back in the game now to some degree, but the MAJOR thing they totally abandoned ship on was the original writer and THE TWELVE. remember the box of release? the story was supposed to get into that and supposedly there was some VERY interesting reveals coming about the twelve but they just fuckin' scrapped it and then the world lore person quit. sad times

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>So redpill me on 1.0. What was it about? Were there any major plot threads that were set up and abandoned because of the whole Meteor thing?
there was also the whole continent of garlemald we were supposed to be able to go to. that turned out kinda like ff12, dropped and abandoned

>we will never have real time travel on comfy boats that could be attacked by NMs ever again because retards will bitch about it taking too much time muh 1 hour playtime a day because muh """life"""
I was actually hoping for some comfy boat rides for stormblood with going to japan and all that but all we got was a fucking dungeon on a boat and thats it.

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reshade. don't use premade profiles though, that's for retard plebs. customize your profile to fit what you like.

Th original story was so interesting. Such a shame that we can never know what was going to happen now. That song "answers" only gave so many hintst to work with.

>There was no need for them to remove the OG textures, it's really lame they scrapped them just for PS3 parity
yeah & especially since they have completely dropped the PS3 entirely

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>for one we had the ascians, which as i understand are back in the game now to some degree
Nigger why the fuck are you talking about abandoned plot threads when you haven't even touched the game since 1.X ended? The Ascians have been back since the beginning of ARR and have been the main antagonists since. We even just learned pretty much everything about them.

>Hit level 72 BLM
>For some reason the level 72 trait doesnt affect Flare

Man I really thought I was gonna be able to get out of umbral ice with flare now, rip

whats a good preset to use? im too lazy to do it myself

The animations were also 100x more soulful. Everything had fucking weight and felt really good

youtube.com/watch?v=RDNQSJwCzCo

Those fucking WAR animations, hnnnn. Spells fucking sucked though

Nod

fistbump

>1.23 had barebones fight mechanics. No tank swaps
dude what? you have no idea what you're talking about. raids were very complicated in 1.23 but not like how it's done in ARR. in 1.23 there were many different ways to approach combat. you'd usually still have 2 tanks and multiple healers. the difference is ARR is very scripted. you follow a script and if anyone deviates from that script (which is more like a DDR memorization pattern) the whole party wipes. 1.x had a lot of one hit kill mechanics but if the whole party wiped 1 person still paying attention could save the day

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MUH

this looks like shit lmao

i'd bet you 5 thousand dollars you couldn't beat that fight

Does Yea Forums adjust for Blackmages? Why or why not? The BLM in my raid group gets pissy if he doesn't get DRG/DNC buffs and never does mechanics that makes him move, being burdened on someone else.

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>got the Innocence mount on my third clear

I have never been this lucky with mount drops, after almost five years playing it's about fucking time

>This was a 1.23 boss fight, it looks like shit.
>says literally the best and hardest fight in the game looks like shit
ok snowflake

post ultimate clears
>inb4 m-muh scripted dance central rhythm game
post ultimate clears

>whats a good preset to use?
that's personally up to you. I personally think they all look like shit. So I make my own.

I hated when they added jobs. The classes had much cooler concepts before 1.18, then they shoehorned them into jobs that didn't fit at all and it just kind of lost all the flavor

THM was not a black mage. Not even close. it didn't even have traditional elemental magic. It was a buff/debuff support class with astral/umbral magic. It had a lot of dots, it had sacrifice, which was a heal+regen that cost the users HP instead of MP. And it's big things were drain spells; there was the obvious HP, MP and TP drains, but there were also stat drains that would lower an enemies specific stats while buffing your own. Then you had a skill that let you transfer your buffs to other party members. It was a nifty idea

And then they made it black mage

what does your look like?

>low graphic settings
>ff14
it looks the same but without shadows on low

>muh 1.0
yea lets go back to the game that bankrupt the company and had less than 2000 players 3 months after launch

>literally the best and hardest fight
>several points where the players just stand around aimlessly waiting for something to happen
>several players barely fucking move or even face the right direction
>a lot of the fight is just running over to the boss
>best fight

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Just because something was bad doesn't mean you can't appreciate certain aspects of it you ding dong

the only thing xiv needs now is better textures

And better non-combat animations

>But was your name in the credits?
>Yeah. Didn't think so.
actually yeah it is in the credits. suck my balls

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Brainlet here, what exactly is the difference between Eos and Selene in Shadowbringers? I took a look at the SCH kit and I didn't see anything that differentiated them, what did I miss?

And a real Blue Mage.

spitballing ways to fix limited jobs
>add one or two more
>give each of them a tank/heal/DPS stance
>let them go into roulettes for rewards but only with each other, or add a Limited Roulette for that purpose

There are the same now but Selene is still a shitter magnet.

Nothing. They're glamours.

What the fuck? Why even have two summon buttons?

I'm probably alone in this but I think it'd be cool if the Masked Carnival was actually more difficult and they had something akin to ESO's Maelstrom Arena or WoW's Mage Tower as an option for Limited Jobs.

Here's a better way
>delete the limited jobs concept
>make BLU a proper caster job
>keep the current learning system but have job quests require certain spells before accepting
>give each spell a required equip level

Because people would have been mad if they removed one of them

At the time you needed a super computer to play 1.0 pretty much. It was beautiful but terribly unoptimized.

wow that's nuts

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Yeah they really BLU it.

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literally nothing, its really stupid, just put one on your bar and you are good

idk I'm viera right now
DRK
limsa
shb
i've only read 1,2, and 3 so 3 i guess

I built my first computer to play 1.0. Had a GTX 480 and an i7 930. Ran it (mostly) at 60fps

represent.

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i think u may have powered up irl

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They probably won't ever update the PS3 era content

Cataclysm made the industry terrified of doing remasters of old content for MMO's, it's made them believe players only want new content

this game looks really bad

Most of the animations are still ok but they really fucked up with gunbreakers walking animation for some reason. It legit just slides around weirdly, the heavensward and stormblood jobs didn't have this issue.

shouldn't the soul soulless be reversed since the soulless one looks shittier?

>1.23
>Introduced class exclusive gear
>As in THM had armor and weapons that BLM couldn't equip
>Looked fucking awesome, and there were a few genuine reasons to use classes over jobs

That's the one thing I miss from 1.0. You could do some pretty silly things with classes. I remember THM had a self casting shield that reflected damage and restored MP on hit. If you stayed as a class you could cross class CNJ's sacred-whatever which was a cooldown that made your next selfcast a party wide aoe. Shit like that.

The class gear was cool too. The Astrolabe is still my favorite staff in 2-5.0

>1080p (2,073,600 pixels) vs 1440p (3,686,400 pixels), it's a 78% increase in quality.
may be a 78% increase in pixels but sadly it isn't a 78% increase in animation quality

FFXIV 1.0 was trash and everyone who says it isn't is a rose-colored-glasses wearing faggot

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Because being eye candy is all that 1.0 had going for it.

lol
yeah shit's bad breh. y they no upgrade graphics

And an actually interesting overworld instead of being useless empty space, and more interesting puzzles.

I don't know why everyone's rating this expansion so high when it wouldn't be the case if this was an actual single player game, which is what a lot of people like to say it's like.

Which server should i go for? I've heard Balmung was the best

el 56%

Balmung is the ERP shitter server in the ERP shitter DC
Go for Aether or Primal data centers, anything is good now that world visiting is there
EU servers are full of frogs and krauts who suck at the game so there you go

this, I started in ARR and I have a ton of fond memories of it, but I know if I went back to it I would remember a ton of needlessly frustrating shit I was glad to see removed
fucking Dragoon dying to raid wide AoE's in coil and not getting the HT buff if they didn't hit the positional, meaning you couldn't get it during fights like demon wall, not to mention old jump animation lock

So, I'm a few quests to the Heavensword content right now.
I played through ARR, then took about a year and a half long break and came back and have been plowing through the buffer content and finally almost at the expansion.
Most things have come back to me but I still don't really understand how the armor gathering system works.
I don't have much experience with MMO's but bear with me here; this might be a retarded question.
I don't really know how armor gathering works, so far all the armor I use just comes from the story quests, everything I pick up in dungeons are all garbage I toss out and with other class story armor I just use currency to buy in stores according to the level.
I'm just not grasping how armor gathering works, is that literally it, just quest and grinding for money for in game shops?
It's not like a Monster Hunter, grind the same thing over and over until it drops the part you need type of deal?
It just feels like everything worthwhile just comes from story or job quests.
Is it just because I'm so low level?

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There is another thread about the current live version of the game were you can get memed on. We are mostly talking about 1.0 here.

>I've heard Balmung was the best
Sure man, have a blast

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>he's an overdweller

People shit on balmung but it's the only server I've played on that made the game feel almost like an MMO. People actually talk. I'm currently on gilgamesh which is one of the most populated servers and it still feels dead. Sure you can see people in Eulmore no one fucking talks

>Th original story was so interesting. Such a shame that we can never know what was going to happen now. That song "answers" only gave so many hintst to work with.
yeah and what sucks is the story since then with the exception of heavensward has been pretty damn lame by comparison

Crystal for ERP,Primal for normal people and Gilgamesh for autistic raider (even tho they're not really that much better than primal)

Do the current EX crafter items have a much higher drop rate than Stormblood's items or something?
I got the innocence barding for like 150k, and there were multiple others that were 500k or less. And the Titania bardings are less than 1mil as well.

Comparatively, all the stormblood bardings that aren't susano and lakshmi are all 1 million or more. What's going on?

I like Shadowbringers but I feel like they're just buying reviews or something because the acclaim makes no sense. The reviewers couldn't have played through all of ARR, HW, and SB and I can't understand how someone could enjoy Shadowbringers with zero context or prior knowledge.

DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE A LVL 80 FSH RETAINER?

The only point where you'll actually want to grind for armor is end game, where it matters, from the latest raids. Otherwise just use the bare minimum you need to keep up with progression.

>I'm just not grasping how armor gathering works, is that literally it, just quest and grinding for money for in game shops?
For leveling, pretty much. At higher levels when your ilvl stops cutting the mustard you can run dungeons but you'll pretty quickly replace it by quests. Don't be a shitter and queue for dungeons when you ilvl sucks though. At endgame the gear train begins for real.

Which server do I go on for erp?

Is requiescat off the gcd?

>The animations were also 100x more soulful. Everything had fucking weight and felt really good
it was legit better than souls series animations. why oh why

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A more interesting and seamless world is urgently needed, even WoW areas looks better today even being seamless. You would think they would manage to make something better with loadings.
I was thinking making a new FF MMO would be a bad ideia but it might not be after all because not being able to have such simple things is annoying in 2019.

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Have you considered that those reviewers DID play the previous expansions? Either for the job or just for fun? Even game reviewers play games they aren't reviewing you know.

>At higher levels when your ilvl stops cutting the mustard
Do you Americans literally ever fucking stop thinking about food?

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>All these PLD, MNK, MCH, and RDM favorites
>Not DRK, SAM, NIN, GNB, etc.

You people have the most garbage taste in classes. Red Mage is somewhat fun, but DRK and GNB are way more fun than PLD. MNK seems boring as hell when I tried it, and I don't know much about MCH but I imagine it's like GNB if GNB was a DPS class.

Everyone knows that 1.0 was better. The reason Yoshi P doesn't add 1.0 servers is because it would be a nightmare for him, since people would realize how shit his WoW clone is.

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>Playing PvP really late at night
>Queue 4 minutes
>Playing at normal hours
>25 minutes

?????

well BLM damage is the highest, so its the best for your party, so your party's overall damage goes down when the BLM moves around so up to u really

the land of milk and honey, pajeet.

>game reviewers play games

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Complexity for complexities sake is not good design.
If you aren't being rewarded for putting in 200x the work then most people won't enjoy that.

People seem to forget that ARR runs on the "same engine" as XV, but it's also a janked out derivative.

this is autism

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Honestly if they just improved combat and performance 1.0 would be a better mmo than what we have now

huh?

It didn't have to consider consoles.

Viera
DRK
Gridania
Shadowbringers
I've only watched part 1 and 2 so i guess 2

I honestly wouldn't mind if after 6.0 they make a new MMO that's got current gen graphics and better code.

Hell, even make it a direct sequel of 14 where you can transfer your 14 character over. I'd dig that. Maybe have a timeskip where characters are older.

>spent most of time in Kyoani mourning threads
Today I parse 10955 on Titania as BLM without padding. Made some mistakes. Is it possible to parse higher? Feels like I can't break 11k

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But which one is better for ERP? Balmung or Crystal?

ok this thread is based

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To the gatherer/crafter people here. When will we be getting the next gather/crafting equipment? 5.3?

>I hated when they added jobs. The classes had much cooler concepts before 1.18, then they shoehorned them into jobs that didn't fit at all and it just kind of lost all the flavor
>THM was not a black mage. Not even close. it didn't even have traditional elemental magic. It was a buff/debuff support class with astral/umbral magic. It had a lot of dots, it had sacrifice, which was a heal+regen that cost the users HP instead of MP. And it's big things were drain spells; there was the obvious HP, MP and TP drains, but there were also stat drains that would lower an enemies specific stats while buffing your own. Then you had a skill that let you transfer your buffs to other party members. It was a nifty idea
>And then they made it black mage
same here. they fucked it up with that patch and then when ARR came out they fucked it up some more and every patch after that they fuck it up a little bit more.

>1.0 was not a flop
This is really good bait.

At a certain point, getting higher color parses is all about optimization. Having the right materia, the right food, using potions at the right time, aligning raid buffs.

You won't get an orange parse with a pub generally because the group lining up buffs is basically mandatory.

something tells me you were one of the brainlets that couldn't beat this fight

The fuck are you on about.

Crystal is the DC (server cluster)
Balmung is in the server cluster

>I don't know much about MCH
play it and find out what its like before crying about it faggot
Its honestly super fucking fun, I recommend it a lot

>I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll just repeat what I've read instead of educating myself

So I haven't touched Tits EX, how easy is it to learn from scratch?

>without padding
Pretty much every single class in this game has some sort of support that can increase your damage even if a little bit. How the fuck did you manage to get into a group that didn't have anything at all? Not even one? That's like winning the lottery.

1.0 was horribly optimized, had giant maps that were barren and just cut and pasted endlessly to account for their size, terrible combat, almost zero voice work, even compared to ARR, and a story that was even worse than ARR that felt like your path partner was the lead more than you were. About the only things it had going for it over ARR and beyond was better graphics and mo-capped cutscenes.

Shit I forgot about food and potions. Is this really big DPS increase?

Lolno

With or without a static? Because the one is easy the other is possibly impossible.

ez pz, like all EX primals

It won't like double your dps or anything, but the margin between parse colors becomes smaller and smaller the higher you go.

>the only thing xiv needs now is better textures
>And better non-combat animations
>And an actually interesting overworld instead of being useless empty space, and more interesting puzzles.
>I don't know why everyone's rating this expansion so high when it wouldn't be the case if this was an actual single player game, which is what a lot of people like to say it's like.
>A more interesting and seamless world is urgently needed, even WoW areas looks better today even being seamless. You would think they would manage to make something better with loadings.
>I was thinking making a new FF MMO would be a bad ideia but it might not be after all because not being able to have such simple things is annoying in 2019.

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I have orange on both fights and I do nothing but PF pugs though.

>had giant maps that were barren and just cut and pasted endlessly to account for their size
Because they were meant to be filled out by free company built structures.
>terrible combat
Debatable
>a story that was even worse than ARR that felt like your path partner was the lead more than you were
The story was fine and very atmospheric, and Alphinaud is literally just the replacement for the path companion.

>tank dungeon
>pull big like group wants
>get killed thanks to healer is busy dpsing
>and ran out of defense skills because DPS is slow killing
>party wipes
>suddenly tank is the villain

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HAHAHAHA good luck with the shitters now a days.
I can't even find a good farm party nevertheless a clear party.

>Favorite Race
Viera
>Favorite Class
Dark Knight
>Favorite City State
Ishgard
>Favorite Expansion
Heavensward but I haven't gotten to Shadowbringers yet

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>unironically shilling for 1.0

What the fuck is this lmao

>>Favorite City State
>Ishgard
Are you one of the, like, 3 people who actually use that city?

is there a point to this trust system shit? It really wants me to rerun level fucking 71 dungeons at level 80?

what the shit is even the point of this sytem

Being contrarian is an entire lifestyle at this point.

Alts.

People who want a solo video gaming experience.

on average more reliable than pugs.

the reward for capping them all out is getting to use their previous outfits

Snowy cities with Gothic architecture are a weakness of mine.

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AFK runs.

Plenty of people like Ishgard for story reasons, even if they don't actively use it
I'm still hoping we get Ishgard housing from the restoration thing.

Fuck, I really need to level up a crafter to 80.

>literally nothing, its really stupid, just put one on your bar and you are good
'member when those little faggots got killed in boss battles and you had to resummon them? i 'member

for leveling alts you ding dong

>what the shit is even the point of this sytem
to reduce stress on duty finder during the launch period. it serves no purpose at this point and launch was like 2 weeks ago. it's a dead feature and will never again be useful. there are no rewards for hitting level 80 with the trust NPCs

Your dc must be an absolute shithole.

Its the WoL's canon favourite city state, there was a scene during ShB that has Ardbert asking if you have something to protect or something and he immediately thinks of Ishgard

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And it's DPS is trash, or at least it was but apparently now it's doing a lot more damage. Do they have aesthetic and cool looking armor because monk armor looks like shit.

NIN is complex, but SAM is pretty simplistic and from what I've been told so is GNB.

so all of them?

Because they used to be different, and they didn't want to make people who liked on visually more than the other mad.

So they give you options. What's wrong with that?

Everyone loves Ishgard, but there's very little reason to go there unless you just like to afk or craft in that atmosphere.

Since when did Boomers play this game

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>I built my first computer to play 1.0. Had a GTX 480 and an i7 930. Ran it (mostly) at 60fps
SHILLS BTFO

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You fuckers think pre-wow class mechanics will ever succeed again?

The original "trinity" was Tank, Healer, and Support. The support could definitely be all over the place based on the MMO. It could be a bard, enchanter, or shaman in Everquest. It could be a bard, red mage, or corsair in FFXI. All the crazy utility ATs/powers in City of Heroes.

"DPS" only became important with the advent of of enrage mechanics.

So what WAS 1.0's story? Like initially I mean

Doesn't he think of multiple places though? Like the Steppe or somewhere in Doma?

He's right, 1.0 ran on crystal tools, 2.x is on a gimped version of luminous adapted for MMO use.

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>>Introduced class exclusive gear
>>As in THM had armor and weapons that BLM couldn't equip
>>Looked fucking awesome, and there were a few genuine reasons to use classes over jobs
>That's the one thing I miss from 1.0. You could do some pretty silly things with classes. I remember THM had a self casting shield that reflected damage and restored MP on hit. If you stayed as a class you could cross class CNJ's sacred-whatever which was a cooldown that made your next selfcast a party wide aoe. Shit like that.
>The class gear was cool too. The Astrolabe is still my favorite staff in 2-5.0
yeah stuff like that was awesome. every player had the opportunity to craft a unique but partyable playstyle. now everything is cookie cutter to the extreme

>And it's DPS is trash, or at least it was but apparently now it's doing a lot more damage.
MCH has had no damage adjustments since ShB launched, its DPS was never trash, it was just a bunch of balance faggots misreading preliminary testing and freaking out and declaring BRD was way better
MCH dps is really good, stop pretending you know anything about it

XIV shout chat used to be filled with Yea Forums memes. Now, it's just random reddit shit.

I actually don't get this reference.

Tired of this meme, even with two wipes, randoms have been faster

I wonder what's his opinion of classic wow

I enjoy playing NIN on gamepad and don't understand this carpal tunnel issue. My hands are not in pain. Fitting everything in TA and new TCJ gives me boner despite low DPS. I like pressing buttons for raiton instead of fuma too.

I'm sure he enjoys it.

This, unless trusts get better after the MSQ when you have to level them again it's literally double the length of a run with real people

Because you are on a gamepad, it's more ergonomic than a keyboard.

How would you feel if they added a feature where you can tick an option on your first run to only play dungeons with people who are new to the dungeons in exchange for extra XP?

Starts with you having Echo visions of 10 years before. But it doesn't tell you you're having Echo visions, the game just tries to fuck with your head instead. You witness some key events, like the death of Minfilia's father, leading up to the Battle of Silvertear Skies covering the sky with darkness. Afterwards you're recruited to Minfilia's Echo guild and because of your power you end up working as an ambassador between crystal traders and the beastmen, who have begun hoarding their crystals for their primals and are fucking the Eorzean economy.

Isn't that literally what the mentor roulette should be?

Just use them to level up a DPS by afking

>have bad day
>log in
>see my lala
>smile

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I enjoy the higher APM too but doing all that and still being bottom dps is disheartening

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mashed lala is pretty good bro

>People shit on balmung but it's the only server I've played on that made the game feel almost like an MMO. People actually talk. I'm currently on gilgamesh which is one of the most populated servers and it still feels dead. Sure you can see people in Eulmore no one fucking talks
OP here. been on balmung since 1.x. it has its plusses and minusses. a lot of people talk, but few people walk the walk. although now that endgame is a dance dance revolution fest i'm not sure that much has been lost, especially considering how one patch dungeon run later and you're past where you were doing full-time DDR on the regular

i hope you have a good rest of the day and a better day tomorrow user

drugs will do that, yeah

if you use a legacy character does minfilia remember you in ARR?

NIGHTOMARE

Yeah, she's one of the few people who can remember you right away because of the Echo.

I started getting really dizzy today after running Doma Castle sometimes because of the water

I was thinking more of where everyone is blind doing the run rather than you teaching scrubs.

Yoshida will never say anything bad about Blizzard. Not only does he love some of the stuff they have created over the years but Yoshida's public persona is all about a welcoming, pleasant experience. He's not about to shit on his biggest competitor while he's still trying to grab their customers.

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its not bottom, parser is broken or some shit

ARR was all right but it wasn't as exciting as where the story was heading if ARR had never come to be. HW was good because Ishgard was always a thing, but SB really seemed like a diversion into more unexciting territory compared to alternate routes they could have pursued

They didn't have any concern for playability.

They shot themselves in the foot with Cata.

1. People level'd so fast they would easily be in grey-quests and mobs before they could finish most of the zones designed with a story in mind.
2. People level'd fast.
3. Alot of the lore did not make any sense and is later lampshaded or ignored. Goblins being reliant on Kuja for their sentience and Garrosh being super schizo depending on which zone's storyline you encountered him.

It was a giant increase in quality but overall, no one could spend enough time to appreciate it along with just leveling via dungeons.

NO
thanks you too, todays a good day now

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the real reason shadowbringers succeeded

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XIV's formula is unlikely to get old anytime soon. Frankly, a brand new MMORPG or something along those lines would have to come along in order to directly challenge FFXIV at this point and the only company likely to have the manpower, talent, and money for such an undertaking, Blizzard, has seemingly given up on the idea of making another MMORPG. It's possible FFXIV will reign as THE MMORPG to play for years.

Stormblood's lacking points were in story cohesion and zone quality, otherwise its actual gameplay (inc. dungeons, job design, encounter design, Eureka vs. Diadem, etc) is a leg-up from HW's desu

this might be the most civil 1.0 vs ARR thread ive ever seen

this looks absolutely nothing like a beaver by the way

SCREE

I believe

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LA-HEE

Dilate

ShB's true success will be if the overall subscription number stay high. Sure, there was a lot of build up as we came up to launch, but if people don't stick around, that could be a sign there still isn't enough there to hook more people outside the community already familiar with FFXIV.

I never even saw these, where do you get them

Hyur Highlander
Machinist
Ishgard
I'd say Shadowbringers but I don't feel it's right to judge it right out the gate, so I'll say Heavensward
Diamond is Unbreakable

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it's because he's japanese. you're not supposed to act impolite as a public figure. being impolite makes you and the company look bad. western devs sadly can't get this through their thick skull though like how blizzard shat on their own customers in public with "DO YOU GUYS NOT HAVE PHONES" or "YOU THINK YOU DO BUT YOU DON'T"

WHAT THE FUCK IS IT

i hate the dumb frog suit, it is distasteful to me

fingers?

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>Everyone knows that 1.0 was better. The reason Yoshi P doesn't add 1.0 servers is because it would be a nightmare for him, since people would realize how shit his WoW clone is.
damn that was a good read. makes a few very good points. i don't know how many people in this thread ever played ffxi, but did anyone play chains of promathia? all of us ffxiv launchers that started with 1.0 knew that eventually ffxiv would hit chains of promathia level quality, and we all knew something mind blowing was in store. the fact that all this time has passed and the game has actually downgraded in quality while never attaining anywhere near CoP tier gameplay is what really sucks

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*ahem*
FUCK VAUTHRY
OR HIS BETTER KNOWN TITLE, THE JANNY

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1.0 was terrible. It was never going to be XI-2, and it was nearly a Spirits Within tier disaster.

based

Damn bro, looking fine there.

Why does MCH idle and walking animation look so fucking girly? What the fuck are you twirling your fingers for ya faggot.

>Honestly if they just improved combat and performance 1.0 would be a better mmo than what we have now
based. all they really needed in the end was to kill off all the server side shit. combat was already sick

I don't pretend to know anything about it. I was just going off what I saw on DPS charts and shit and MCH was like in the middle originally, but frankly if you enjoy the class then your DPS shouldn't matter. Hell, if you enjoy the class but do low damage then more power to ya.

> 1.x was able to look so good because there was literally nothing in the world outside the cities

those landscapes sure are pretty though, I guess.

>it's because he's japanese
It's just logical human behavior. You don't shit talk people unless you have plan. Especially when you're public person.

still needs the tuxedo

How I get Agrias suit?

>manpower, talent, and money for such an undertaking, Blizzard

nah Cygames will probably make an MMO soon. they want to jump into the console market hard and if there's one thing japan loves is it's console MMOs.

fending gear in Orbonne

1.0 was irredeemable trash. the only way to make xiv not complete shit was to completely redo it. nothing mindblowing was coming. the company didnt even want to invest more money into the disaster of a game

You rose-tinted faggots are never getting your Classic-ripoff. 1.0 failed for a good reason, and anyone who says otherwise is justifying their bad decision to mitigate the grief. It was shit, it ran like shit, the world lacked a lot of shit to do, and half the shit was copy-pasted shit. It was shit squared. Cubed even. UI taking literally a minute to load, the crafting was weirder, though the way Mining worked was a lot more fuckin fun than the stupid List we get now.

1.x was shit and you masochists can go back to FFXI if you prefer

I'd play the hell out of a Granblue MMO

Fuck WHM. I'm liking AST. And healers are in high demand so deal with it.

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That's fine, but the point is that MCH dps is actually really good, its not in the middle, a well played MCH will be near the top along with BLM, SAM and maybe a DRG, though we will see when the big savage changes come in
either way, MCH is fantastic to play and pulls its weight fine, feels a fuck ton better to play than it did in SB at least, the rework was excellent, easily my favorite dps job

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>'you think you want it, but you don't.'
Sasuga Blizzdrone Yoshi-P.

Cygames doesn't sound like they have the talent or manpower. Maybe they have the budget but you can't just throw money at something. Not only that, but why jump into MMORPGs when they can't even get their granblue console game to ship. How long have we been waiting for it at this point?

>worse lighting
Nothing could be worse than 2.0 lighting

and we all thought Ishgard would be the next Jeuno. little did we know we have a fuckin' ilvl to advance

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Yoshida doesn't bother rebuking fans as much as make them feel embarrassed for wanting retarded things.

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I wish this thing was harder to get, too many faggots wearing this faggot outfit.

>I'd play the hell out of a Granblue MMO
you are. the races are literally just FFXIV's races with the serial numbers filed off
>generic human race
>cat people race
>strong people race
>short people race
>no elves because nobody likes elves

He's a blizzard fanboy tho, he just said some days ago he would quit everything to work on Diablo 4.

No seriously. Why do MCH's walk like fags? Their running animation is completely fine.

>he just said some days ago he would quit everything to work on Diablo 4.
Source me, bro.

based

i like elves

>You fuckers think pre-wow class mechanics will ever succeed again?
idk if anyone will ever give it a chance. but probably at some point yeah. the souls games are a good example of multiplayer online boss fights that don't need the trinity, and the original ffxiv design was a lot closer to that

"Otaku are scum, moe is trash, anime was a mistake, neck yourselves hikkikomori." - Hayao Miyazaki

You like lying

How do you activate reuse when crafting? It's constantly greyed out.

Isn't that exactly what DNC is testing the waters for though? More Support-focused buffing, though still DPS's

I guess I prefer using blades and melee weapons, like MCH seems like a glorified gunslinger class and I guess I'm not big into gun classes in MMO's. I prefer being up close when attacking. Frankly I was never big on ranged DPS, so that's why I feel I won't like MCH.

So that's the arsonist's name.

Yeah but the short people race has massive titties, Lalafell are shit.

yeah but xiv's horned race not having gigantic fucking tits is more than enough reason for cygames to step in.

>So what WAS 1.0's story? Like initially I mean
you start to investigate the primals and learn the garlean empire is starting to invade, besides the local stuff that is going on. meanwhile there are 12 gods & goddesses around but before the story got into that it got derailed

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Calm down Pelinal

>Lalafell are shit.

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There's only a chance you can when you have 100% quality.

harvins don't have massive titties until someone makes dorafication art

at least they captured the roegadyn experience by making doraf males extremely rare and extremely pointless

he probably never played xi and that's why ARR is a DDR wowfest instead of being original

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Hyur
MNK
Ishgar
Heavensward
Phantom Blood