Quake is dead

twitter.com/TimWillits/status/1151870022421241857

After 24 years, I’ve decided to leave id Software after QuakeCon. I’ve been extremely lucky to work with the best people in the industry on truly amazing games. QuakeCon has been an unbelievable part of my journey and I look forward to seeing everyone at the Gaylord Texan.

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>Gaylord Texan

A redundancy

Qauke has always been dead lol

>Gaylord Texan

lmao

>leaving after a big convention and not before

This nigga went through so much work and overtime to prepare and work on stuff for quakecon, only to quit afterwards? is he legit dumb? He should've quit before, that way ID software would've actually done everything they could to keep him because they wouldn't be able to find a replacement in the time.

Wasn't he directly responsible for two massive commercial failures in Quake Champions and Rage 2?

i wish people could actually express how they feel instead of only being socially allowed to give generic sugar'd PR statements.

>gaylord texan

Lmao is that real?

>Gaylord Texan
lmao what

good, every game he's been heavily involved with turned out to be the weakest in id's catalog
just put marty in charge

Gaylord Texan is my steam name.

>being this underage
it’s a fucking national hotel chain you zoomers

there are 5 gaylord hotels in the us, and they're all massive resort-style hotels. you guys are ignorant

Blame the money hungry publisher

>Americans assuming everyone is American again

I'm not american m8

It won't last.

They will force Marty to make Doom woke and less masculine.

See

Americans are fat and stupid but they occasionally make good video games.

>Quake is dead
id is dead.

here fixed it for you

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not everyone here is a american you retard

But man the guy who gave it that name sure hated texans

he most likely did. they probably cut a fat bonus check for him if he stayed until after

But Marty is a chad.

Do they teach you about foreign countries over there?

Fucking finally
Ding Dong the bitch is dead
Press S to spit on Timmy's career's grave

So.
What the fuck happened at QuakeCon that made him leave?

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>I look forward to seeing everyone at the Gaylord Texan.
WHAT

yeah, all their economies suck and they're dangerous to live in

>Gaylord Texan

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Quake hasn't been good since the first one.

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Ada if my waifu.

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Yet you dont know what gaylord is

QuakeCon hasn't happened yet. He's just using it as a good point to quit.

faget

Quake 3 is objectively the best Quake, zoomer faggot.

I love the US but I agree with the obsessed europoors here: we struggle to understand there's something outside our borders

You're probably trolling but this is exactly the mentality we grow up with, it's disgusting.

Americans = fat

literal who

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only gaylord here is u LOL

It all started going downhill the moment they were bought by Zenimax.
DOOM turned out great because id had freedom and was going to do anyway. Rage 2 and Champions are two games no one wants or asked for. Zenimax wanted in on the hero shooter meme and Quake was the sacrificial lamb fetus.

So you are not american?

ok

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Quake has been dead since the first one for me. 2 was meh and I never cared about multiplayer.

OP is gaylord texan lol

QC development has been hell
They have a winning formula, fun and interesting that was gaining momentum, and they decide to fuck it up hard with the shoddiest updates and trimming content even more. Runes are out the game. Challenges suck dick. Performance is ass.

And they encrypted the models so no one can make SFM porn too. Not even waifumancy will survive. Dumbasses.

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>their economies suck and they're dangerous to live in
Have *** am*ricuck

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>Quake is dead
welcome to the past

>Wolfenstein gets a sucessful reboot
>Doom gets a sucessful reboot
>Quake gets a shitty OW clone and dies

Why?

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Your stupid face edits won't change anything.

didn't he lie about the creation of multiplayer maps?

>dick move to most likely a lot of people you like at your company right before retiring after 24 years
How mature.

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ok

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Here's your quakecon event hotel, bro

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>have you ever tried to be such a boomer that you become a protoboomer?

Doom 3
RAGE 1 and 2
Quake 4

>this entire post

This is the worst post I have seen all year.

>gaylord
lol

CS > quake

>i wish people could actually express how they feel instead of only being socially allowed to give generic sugar'd PR statements.
Not a smart thing to do in the game industry.
If you get a bad rep you harm your chances of landing jobs at companies.

That's not bad as far as it goes. At least it has an in-door area that tries to be outdoor.

probably lack of support from lead actors at id.

They didn't do Quake 4, Raven did.

Biggest problem with Quake are the dogshit aesthetics. It's not just good visual design, especially when compared to games in the same vein like Doom or Unreal.

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it's actually pretty nice. i live right by it

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This. The DC one is where Magfest takes place, but the name's still funny and I guarantee you that's why the Magfest guys chose it as the location.

>national hotel chain
L O L

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>americans
OH NONO

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based and fragpilled
Q1 is the only good Quake game, and 3 is for ADHD induced zoomers

>he thinks Texan is a red state

lol Dallas, Austin, Houston, and all the major cities are just as bad as Boston New York Seattle and Chicago.

If the company doesn't adjust, then why should he wageslave it for the sake of everyone else? He creates economic value and if that isn't appropriately rewarded by the company, then you're literally retarded for doing it for free.

>we struggle to understand there's something outside our borders
Not only is that blatantly false (most high schoolers spend more time learning about “world history” these days than U.S. history), but it’s an argument that has never held any weight. Why do third-worlders get to shit on America for not knowing the tax policies of every one of their tiny little mud hut countries, but whenever they stumble into a thread about a western game and completely embarrass themselves about western culture, they cry and say they’re being bullied?

Why didn't they put him on stilts or something? The size difference distracts from the announcement. When will Bethesda stop sabotaging itself?

>tripfag thinks his opinion matters

D I L A T E
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>admitting you're going to a place called Gaylord Texan

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>left made multiple incredible games whose legacy will always be remembered
>right has made nothing but absolute trash

Really makes you think.

>leaving the company to look for someone new in his position and to also re-allocate the work he needed to do right before their biggest event of the year
>hurrr y dun't the cumpani just adjust!???????
Your mental maturity is that of an 11 year old.

>foreigners being too fucking stupid to google again

Keep working for free then, there's probably a reason why you're a blue collar worker.

oof imagine that ceiling dropping on you from tremors of all the gaylords having sex in there

Instead of coming with good counter arguments you reply by projecting based on nothing. Again, mental maturity of an 11 year old.

I was going to pull the gay porn argument, but that wouldn't fly knowing today's Google, now would it?

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I like quack hampions!

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maybe in your gay country, mr gaylord

I agree but unfortunately if they said what they actually wanted to say then they may potentially say something that hurts the reputation of a business and businesses being businesses don't want that. People are forced to be pragmatic so they don't ruin their careers in the industry.

based

they Encrypted the files so NO ONE can datamine it

Blame fucking Sponge and SyncError

Somehow i see this as a Quake 1 or RTCW map

Yea Texas is basically California just 20-30 years behind in terms of demographic change.

extremely based

No its not. Quake 3 is the slow man's quake. And calling somebody that prefers quake 1 a zoomer is complete retardation. Quake 1 players are the boomiest of boomers and quake 3 players are nu-boomers that are borderline halo enthusiasts.

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how are they (models) encrypted? how do you know they're encrypted and not just written in some obscure file format? asking because i've done reverse-engineering on some games (including file systems and 3d models) but don't have access to qc

Gaylord meant "high-spirited" until the mid-20th century. I can only imagine how much language will have changed by the time we're old men.

qc never stood a chance
Quake used to be game that pushed limits of hardware, a tech demo of the engine of sorts, like unreal was. QC is nothing like this. It runs like trash, and died before they even managed to release it.

quakelive pak files were encrypted too, but that was just a short xor cipher. is this not the same?

U can use the method of ripping the model off the gpu memory, look up titanfall 2 model extraction on facepunch (the entire game VPK files are encrypted)

Based and gaypilled

id software died when John Romero left and the last good Quake game came out in 1999

>America is full of gaylords
LMAO

QL pak files can be accessed with 7z, all previous quake pak files can be accessed with that, besides Q1 and Q2 Pak, which needs Pakexplorer Q1 and Pakscape for Q2.

Models until some time ago could be ripped off, hence why you got Classic Doomguy, weapons, Sorlag and BJ

but No one gave a fuck to Nyx and the rest.
deviantart.com/xcurtainx/art/Quake-Champions-Ruby-Nyx-3D-Model-RAW-RIP-Files-759843678

here is the RAW, but with no skeleton

Romero was a fucking hack.

gays have a tendency to act (ACT) extremely happy when really they arent
it's a form of defense because they are dead and empty inside since they have nothing to base their existence on other than their sexuality
if they acted any other way then it would just be verifiable proof that their choices in life were objectively wrong - it's a smokescreen

man they've really pissed in the face of id traditions like modding

You can blame californian shitters moving to texas after realizing their state went to shit, then enacting the same policies for that

>play his wad
>one cyberdemon on every level
He wants the world to know he made Doom. Did you know he made Doom, user? He made Doom and nothing else with his life since 1993.

>QuakeCon
I thought it was DOOMCon now?

UNREAL TOURNAMENT WINS AGAIN BABY
;_;

The world remembered him making shitty Daikatana.

>unreal tournament in alpha or beta (I dont even care at this point)
>fortnite
>unreal tournament magically disappears

>gaylord texan
of course the game industry yet again proves it can't keep up
Brokeback Mountain had 2 gaylord texans and that was like 15 years ago.

>So who won the arena games wars?
No one.

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Maybe these faggots will stay out of the csgo threads now.

it's so sad that it's going to be called DOOMCon from now on

this, fuck strogg
fuck eSports faggotry
and fuck jannies

literally the same face what the fuck

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it's the same guy

Fuck off hipster. Quake was always average single player wise, it was until Quake 3 Arena when the series reached it's peak.

Quake invented jumping

In the end he made people who bought Daikatana his bitch

Arena shooters are dead, that's why.

>gaylord

what the fuck were boomers thinking? dumb fucking generation

Paris Hilton does the same

Left has a bigger, even smile with more cheerful eyes. On the right he looks tired and barely cares to smile.

it had 3 or 4 fucking ingame currencies for lootboxes
I don't care how good your game is, if it has that much garbage I'm not touching it

>play that space map with the towers with just bots
>sit at top of tower with sniper rifle
>bots conveyor belt along the same path
>chain headshots all day long
I wasted my youth, but I regret nothing.

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it's literally the same guy

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Quake was an unfinished tech demo that couldn't even rival Doom, only hipsters overhype that shit when even as a single player it was always pretty mediocre, you have stuff like Unreal, Blood, Turok and Duke 3D all having superior single player.

woah that's a detailed mouth

CALL ON ME

rage 2 was fun

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>playing arena shooters in 2019

'Was' or 'is'? I mean, didn't it only just come out?

And Quake 3 perfected it.

Mutts btfo

I used to play against bots on 200% speed in UT2k4, great fun. Playing on regular speed felt like slow motion afterwards.

Kill yourself tripfag. filtered

Quake rapes Unreal. Unreal is boring garbage

Duke 3D is the king though

just imagine

lmao gotem

I disagree. Unreal advanced AI makes enemies far more interesting and that game alone had more level variety than all Quake games combined, it's a much more inspired, complete single player experience while Quake just feels like some arcadey game made to kill time.

i've done essentially that twice, and it's because you've completed your current job and can avoid taking on new responsibilities. the only reason not to schedule departure after you complete a big project is if you hate the firm you are working for rather than want to do something else (e.g. cash out your equity and enjoy self-determination)

i got bored of it after 30hours, so it was.

>typing American words on an American website on the American internet
If you're here you're American, better start acting American.

But Diabotical is getting released any day now right?

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>Gaylord Texan
Ram ranch?

It will come this fall, i just play xonotic now until then

fuckin rekt

What part of arena shooters are dead you delusional idiots are missing? No shitty poormans Quake 3 Arena is gonna save the genre from irrelevance, if anything it's doing the very same thing the genre did to become stale people got tired long ago of uninspired Quake clones.

>I look forward to seeing everyone at the Gaylord Texan
Sure you do, faggot!

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Are you like 15? How the fuck is that even fun to an adult person?

>Gaylord Texan

hehehe

I guess Rage 2 bombed and Bethesda/Id told him to step down

quake and ut fans don't play games anymore

>t. homo

They play games, not just the ones they claim to die for.

The Gaylord Texan is especially huge once you enter the main open area.

>ruins quake
>leaves quake champions in the world of uncertainty and in the a complete dumpster state with a skeleton crew

>"welp my work here is done"

Nice one Tim. Proud of ya!

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lol gay

none of the ones i know play anything at all. half of them don't even have a desktop or laptop anymore.

I like the concept of Quake Champions, I like the art, I like the lore (yes, I know), and the gameplay is fun. But like pple said, performance is crap and... let's be honest, you have to be kind of an autist to stick so long on a arena shooter game

He pretty much just proved every single one of his detractors right. Suicide is now the only honorable way out.

But he did the greatest id game.

The UT vets i know of play nothing but Overshit, CSGO and Rust

You can't save Quake. It's outdated garbage.

you know somewhere up the food chain that "hero shooters are big" was discussed, although probably with terminology that doesn't lay bay the inspiration for this "trend"

>you have to be kind of an autist to stick so long on a arena shooter game
Tell that to people who keep playing Quake Live after 9 years and are people with other hobbies, a job and families on their own.

Arena shooters wouldn't be dead if it wasn't Saber Interactive and Bethesda's jews who didn't give enough money to id to develop a proper game.

Even then it was a pretty interesting project to people with 17,000 peaking players (yes, it's a lot for arena shooters). But because the game had so many technical issues, people couldn't even enjoy it and quit.

yes they are autistic like meleefags
not least of all for getting involved in id's attempt to remonetize quake 3

Comfy

>typing English words, on a Japanese website on the English internet.
ftfy yankee diddle

lmao he literally tells everyone to look for him at the gay bar seconds after quitting...career choices must be limited LOL

quake has been dead for a long ass time.
when will you faggots learn? maybe you should join Tim at Gaylord Texas

It's not a Texas problem and people don't understand that. Every nigger, spic, and jew live in the big cities in every state. Maine is a beautiful white state and the only place you'll find trash niggers is in portland.

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Now That Willits is out, who will be the box and how will it affect to id? Wil Tom Hall come back for that Commander Keen FPS?

American here I have never heard of this gay hotel chain. Maybe it's just a texan thing?

So will QC actually be good now soon?

I thought quake was already dead

It's clearly Slipgate Complex port

It won't be Quakecon anymore.
It'll be called DoomCon from now on

>massive gaylords

lmao

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no fibbing please, ol' chap

What the fuck even is Quakecon? What do you do?

Do they show you some footage of new summer loot crate items in QC and maybe a new upcoming map and then you walk around looking at cosplayers for 2 days then go home?

>tfw I'm a beta sissy virgin

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Play Quake and earn a Ferrari.

Gottem

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I'm not gay but I act happy all the time so people don't judge me for being depressed and miserable

maybe its a gay thing lmao *dab*

When was the last time you called someone a gaylord?

Gaylord Texan sounds like a porn name lmao

Sorry was just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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>have a big ass LAN party with a bunch of people, play Quake 3, Quakeworld, Doom mods running on Zandronum, other PC shit.
>news on the latest id happenings (and bethesda in general i guess since the buyout)
>before Carmack left you could hunker down and get comfy watching him get all autistic about graphics technology for a few hours

First anime and now video games are dead.
What the fuck is happening.

Yeah and most of those who back Democrats can't vote.

This is why he changed his name to Greg
>youtube.com/watch?v=lL3Z_L4xnnA

arena shooters have always been garbage anyways. it only worked well back in the day because of how limiting most games were back then.

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Is he taking his wife to the Gaylord Texan?

The state it released with less of content than a 1 man indie game is inexcusable.
Its dead and im glad for it, devs must be punished for such stunts so when next time a game with 5 characters and 3 maps comes out someone will get fired.

To be fair, there are also steers in Texas.

So americans don't have access to these girls since they're all mutts

Stay mad Europoor

Quake 3 came out before most zoomers were born faggot

Who Gaylord here?

>Tim Wilts
>MAGNUS NEDFORCE

Good. You boomers need to learn to move on. Gettin real fuckin sick of seeing your reboots infect everything bc of your nostalgia. NEWSFLASH you will never be a kid again in the 90s playing with your dumbass Creepy Crawler oven and watching Rockos Modern Life. GET OVER IT.

this is why /pol/ is laughing at us

only q1 and q4 are replayable - come at me, you fucks!

Stop laughing at American Gaylord, faggots.

If Mario can still get quality games why can't Quake?

>Good. You boomers need to learn to move on. Gettin real fuckin sick of seeing your reboots infect everything bc of your nostalgia. NEWSFLASH you will never be a kid again in the 90s playing with your dumbass Creepy Crawler oven and watching Rockos Modern Life. GET OVER IT.

Yeah, tell that to Nintendo.

Why should we care about that board? Its full of the absolute weirdest cunts on this site. I only go to v and tv

>All these people thinking Quakecon will be rename into Doomcon
Read nigga.
READ.

Gaylord lol

I bet there are more than five massive Gaylords in the US.

OP is one of them lol

id Software trade secret.

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Wow, I can't believe the sole inventor of deathmatch is leaving id. This is a sad day for the company.

He tried to warn us.

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Copper Quake is really, really nice. Someyimes I feel it like I'm playing some megawad.

>5 Gaylords

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>WAAAAH STOP CALLING US GAY
>sucks some other boards dick

Texans are so gay holy shit lol

Well yeah, Texas has the biggest gaylords.

They prolly finna rename it to uhhh GAYLORDCON lol

>never even heard about QC, big fan of Q3 arena so I install
>to select a fucking color you must pay shards for it, to unlock the bio you must unlock their bio (in parts and each part gets more expensive), lootboxes
Why did anyone think this was a good idea? Game is dead as fuck, took me minutes to just find a game

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>big fan of Q3 arena
>never heard of QC
Something doesn't add up here, user.

Cool story, too bad it didn't happen.

>Why did anyone think this was a good idea?
Because when EA did it they were raking in piles of money for a decade, on what are utterly mediocre products. Some suit made this call, guaranteed.

I've been out of the loop, I guess

unfortunately it's just part and parcel of being a multiplayer game in the current decade, especially a free-to-play one.

Are we making a Yea Forums QC lobby or not? (Can you even do that in this shitty game?)

I'm a shitter though so my goal is not be last place

Europoor here. Americans have a complex about being seen as self-absorbed. That's why it's so fun to tease them about it relentlessly.

Pretty sure Yea Forums is more into Live, not QC. But you could try, I guess.

Yea Forums DEATH MATCH

Id: durrdevil

>Are we making a Yea Forums QC lobby or not? (Can you even do that in this shitty game?)
>
>I'm a shitter though so my goal is not be last place
EU Server?

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>Shitter
>Am I eu

But of course!

TXfag here. I thought it was funny.

>Gaylord Texan

KEK

Fucking Americans are too progressive for this world.

>when you just have to put your name on the building but your name is Gaylord

GAYLORDS UNITE

>You can blame californian shitters moving to texas after realizing their state went to shit, then enacting the same policies for that

But the Californians that are moving to Texas are the only thing keeping it red.

dallasnews.com/news/politics/2018/11/09/native-texans-voted-native-texan-beto-orourke-transplants-went-cruz-exit-poll-says

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Well so long Gay Bowser

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>Bethesda reveals Quake Champions and hypes it up as the future of esports
>Game falls flat on its face and Bethesda hasn't talked about it since E3 2018, and even then people never gave two shits about it
Quake had been dead long before, but that was more like poking a corpse

I know for a fact you're underage and have no idea what you're talking about.

?
Americans are trash in Quake.

Quake Live is still active, although I don't get why anyone would play the FFA 16+ servers

>a zenimax company

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How do I get good when all I get matched with are elite players?

Why aren't there shitter servers for noobs and shitters?

who the fuck was talking about red or blue
tripfag tranny fuck off

The former cities are just where the leftugees who created the social conditions in the latter cities as a means to signal status through link related, fled to in order to escape the consequences of this status signalling.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handicap_principle

>>Game falls flat on its face and Bethesda hasn't talked about it since E3 2018, and even then people never gave two shits about it
Oh sure, maybe they didn't need to outsource it to a literal noname company that was never making anything even remotely the same as Quake.

What's even the point to outsource Quake to Sabre (to cut some expanses) but announce a $1,000,000 tournament? Sure it's a joke compared to Dota 2 TIs with $25millions, but for Quake it was a gigantic prize pool.

Yet, they fucked up by letting some shit studio to develop it. And they obviously failed at it. Now QC is in limbo, id software is obviously not developing it, only a couple of freaks like Syncerror, but it's obvious that all the real staff is working on the other projects.
And they didn't officially cancel it, however it's still in early access and it was never officially released.

I'm pretty sure that it could take a niche spot and sort of restart the interest for arena shooters. Even with relatively low online with like 5000-10000 people playing it, it would be more than enough for QC.

But they fucked up so much.

>"We took the Quake out of Quakecon and made it Doomcon"
I can't believe I don't have a screencap saved.

>Quake
>Dogshit aesthetics

What do you mean? If you're talking about Champions then one of the few redeeming things about that game was the art team and the work they did on it.

Yes how dare this guy tidy up all the work he had piled up before leaving so that he and his former employer are on mutually good terms with one another. He should have just done the zoomer thing and simply stop showing up and stonewalling everybody the moment he decided to quit.

my wives nyx and slash will live on in my heart

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Maybe because those hardly ever get over 16 players at the same time?

Take your ugly hoe out of my thread.

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except for rapha

Pretty sure Dahang did better at the two latest quakecons.

The californians moving are conservatives you retard. California was solidly red until clinton

Yes, but I was talking about the community and regular players in general.
Obviously I'm not going to deny that Zero4, Fatality, Czm, Rapha or Thresh were good players.

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Tim Willits is a primary reason why QC has stayed alive for so long. It is a passion project, and Tim wouldn’t let Bethesda ever shut it down no matter the population. I have a few internal sources telling me that Bethesda is finally pushing forward with pulling the plug and is giving Tim a fat check to move on. All that would be left is Sync, who is softer than a marshmallow. Without Tim, there is nothing standing in the way of Bethesda from turning off the lights for good...probably by next year’s Quakecon.

Its not like they advertise it.

Does your dad work for Nintendo?

this is why american is failing

>QuakeCon
>E3

God I want to bury my face in Slash's sweaty armpits and die.

I'm 29, born in America and I have never heard of this hotel chain.

>ever liking Tim Willits
Do you also drink out of the toilet?
Literally the worst id employee

>5
>Massive
>Gaylords
you somehow made it sound worse

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That’s what you get for being heterosexual

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>QuakeCon

There's a fucking con for QUAKE in 2019? The fuck?

Tim also mismanaged id to the ground so fuck him

Then they should've made a normal FPS with a good SP campaign and of course with a good MP mode instead of QC.

>americans never think about others
>constantly invade countries and try to control world politics
Yeah right.

Who's your favourite champion?

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HUUUH

Galena and Strogg.

Doomgoy

How do you do, fellow straight gamers?

Can you still meet Shrek there? I remember seeing Dreamworks stuff everywhere there a couple years ago.

>Gaylord Texan
I guess Muslims have a new target now.

Nice try, I'm going to fap to this disgusting mess of a brick.

Acid that dissolves through elephant bones comes out of there, user.

Fuck sponge
Fuck thinkerror
Fuck Tim shittits
Fuck sabre iteractive
Fuck id
and fuck quake champions
Rest in shit you absolute turd of a game

In fairness the first time I heard about Gaylord was in a documentary about nutty, born-again Christians. That their convention was being held in the Gaylord hotel had me in fits when I first heard it.

So this guy unironically told his secretary to book him a room at the Gaylord Texan. That must have been pretty weird.

>Gaylord Texan

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t. agent

death knight is a pretty based champion

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Galena is my waifu.

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Good choice.

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>shaved version

I've already been banned for posting the hairy version, I ain't bothering anymore.

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Hexen 3 featuring Galena from the Quake series when?

FPBP

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Is she supposed to be a bad girl by hexen lore?

She's just a Quake character but she sports the symbol of the Serpent Riders.

I never played hexen games, are these riders bad guys?

take the ban for us please or post a link!

Yes. They are three demonic brothers who act as the main villains of Heretic, Hexen, and Hexen 2.

Oh good, the last official member who worked on Doom is now leaving id, even if it was a limited capacity in a minor role.

Now I don't have to put an astrisk when I say no-one at current ID worked on the original Doom. People who think that a company name means anything other than a umbrella for people to work under are moronic.

Yes, "id" made Doom 4 and is currently making Doom Eternal but it's a whole new company akin to 343 making Halo and the results are quite similar. A massive dissapointment.

what would that achieve? besides not letting him see the fruits of his labour?

>Children that hold this opinion have now been posting on this website so long that this isn't even a controversial opinion

Can't wait for the Zoomer nostalgia for overwatch and fortnite in 5-10 years.

There are people who work at 343 who worked on the first 3 games, so it's actually worse with ID.

would be for siege
Siege>CS>your nostalgia baiting trash

>new=bad

This goes in hand with the rumors that this year is the last QuakeCon, and the event is going to be rebranded into BethesdaCon for 2020, with Bethesda dropping out from going to E3 as well.

it's bound to happen

Stop acting like a bitch Tim lead ID to making garbage like RAGE and selling out to Bethesda. He was a snake in the grass and a bitch. Shed a tear for your gaylord elsewhere, faggot.

fbpb

>ID
stop naming it "ID" you fucking mongoloid scum

>dodging the content of my post over capitalization
Yeah eat shit, Tim Shittits cocksucker.

I can't help but wonder what the future of QC will be now,I do hope things will get better. I liked the game a lot.

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With the way they stopped talking about tournaments (there is still no official schedule for 2019) and the fact that they went from monthly patches to 3 month patch cycles it's pretty obvious that they are going to axe the game in the near future. I would say that they just halt all development by 2021 at the very latest, and they'll probably be slashing servers as they go. They a;ready killed a few servers when they switched to the whole regional server selection thing a few months ago.

Rage is BACK

Alright m8s

I'm thinking I'm back

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quake has been dead for like 20 years user

oh shit is he actually back? haven't seen him since he got fired by valve and made a kikestarter.

Quake pros are already not that impressed by Diabotical, calling it QL clone.
It won't get any popularity and LANs.

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>and the results are quite similar. A massive dissapointment.

But Doom 2016 was way better than 3 & Rage

I hope you're still here, user.
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The only reason I am not 100% hyped for DBT is because it isn't going to have a custom server browser. IT'S MATCHMAKING ONLY.

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Doom 2016 was a massive success better than all their garbage since 2004.

I just want him to go back to casting and verbal shitposting.

Zoomers are asleep
Post some Quack Hampions

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but the best parts of texas are the little california towns. its like california but with friendlier people and good food.

I'm gonna miss all the silly little things drawn for the game

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But what does it mean for QC?

Is it gonna keep up updating?
Are there any news?
Is the game gonna be saved by someone else?
I fucking liked it. I wish I didn't, but I did. It's good. It's fun to fight another person with shooting shoots. There are no other shooters nowadays. I'm angry enough to write a letter.

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get a loada this Gaylord

Shambler champ never ever

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I'll always be disappointed there wasn't more porn.

See The game will be dead in a year or two. We're down to like 650 players on average.

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Better have a Quake reference in Doom Eternal

Ranger coming to meet Doomguy with the Night Centinels

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So that means no Hunter is confirmed, huh.

Except Quake's been dead for 15 years.

Teleporters are called Slipgates, or at least something in the DE trailer is.

>americans never think about others
>constantly invade countries and try to control world politics
you mean jews?

did you not see the strogg looking motherfuckers?
watch them tie that shit in

Never ever.

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>So that means no Hunter is confirmed, huh.
Orbb is already confirmed though.

God damn it all. I don't want to live in a world where we come this close to seeing my bronze musclegoddess waifu in pro-modeled 3D and it all turns to shit.

The only way to revive arena shooters is to turn them into a battle royale OP.

any game that wants to take off needs to be toaster friendly. I get 120+ FPS on csgo
80+FPS on fortnite but I can't get a smooth 60 FPS on quake champions. I have a GTX 660

battle royale in a typical FFA map would probably be the best battle royale. obviously they wouldn't be 100-player though.

>The only way to revive arena shooters is to turn them into a battle royale OP.
No, QC could be decently popular if it wasn't such a fucking mess technically-wise.

It also took away everything that could make it better - community support and community content. For someone like Bethesda, it's a super retarded way to approach it as they know that their dogshit games are always fixed and improved by fan-made mods.

And fans improved Quake 3 as well because it was pretty shitty on the release. Fans made new maps, improved the original maps, fixed the balance and all that shit. OSP made the game "competitive".

QC couldn't provide any of it, the development was sloppy as fuck and very slow. As it wasn't some PUBG with potato code, or even worse shit like Paladins, it could only rely on stellar netcode and some community support.

Why take it away, what kind of stupid crap is that shit? Do they never learn? Dota? Autochess? Counter Strike? OSP? Tons of maps and Defrag? Improved fucking Skyrim and shitty Fallout 3-4?

No excuse for that.

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Does the game have bots? Thats how you get gud at any FPS shooter. First you need to get down
>bunny hop movement
>map memorisation
>weapon pickups
>reaction time
>aim
All of these you get simply by killing bots en masse. Good luck you gonna need it.

>where are noobs
Console players dont play quake.

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>How do I get good when all I get matched with are elite players?
That's exactly how you improve, by playing against better players.

Yup, Quoth was a good pack

You don't improve by getting utterly stomped over and over again, you need to actually be able to practise the game or begin to learn mechanics to git gud, which you can't do if you're dying before you can try anything out.

just wait for diabotical you faggot

That's because you're autistic. Normal people use hotels. Super autists use hotels (for conventions where they get cucked hard). You're just autistic.

>You don't understand hotels, you aren't a sophisticated Gaylord Texan like me

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You get better by playing people who are a bit better than you or just willing to teach you. Getting shit on by someone way out of your league won't really help you, especially when you can't even review a demo of the match afterwards.

You probably aren't getting matched with elites. You just don't have a grasp of the mechanics so players with *some* experience can treat you like a ragdoll. The game doesn't provide any decent tutorials so new players are left in the dark about a lot of shit.
The most important thing in Quake is learning how the movement works and figuring out how to maintain control of the items. Look up strafe/circle jump videos on youtube and practice if you want to get better.

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>Tim leaves
>SyncError still exists
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK WORST TIMELINE. SyncError is the absolute worst faggot to leave any game in the hands to. Quake is dead and I genuinely enjoy QC despite its flaws.

trust me they aren't elite. I can go DM 30-0 against scrubs, but go 0-15 vs good players. The skill gaps in Quake are fucking huge due to movement being it's own hill along with aiming, map knowledge, item management (this is actually abnormally huge as well) and situational awareness.

>Tim Shillits
Good riddance

I just want to jerk off to nyx sfm but nope can't have any

Will Killcreek be there?
gib milkies

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>there's sorlag sfm
>it isn't vore
what the FUCK

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gay =/= fag you moron
Are you some zoomer that has never watched the flintstones?

>Gaylord Texan

wut

Todd will take over id directly and bring them into the 21st century

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>You don't improve by getting utterly stomped over and over again
Yes you do, bitch.

>You get better by playing people who are a bit better than you or just willing to teach you.
Nice excuse, bitch.
Now go get stomped and learn from your mistakes.

It wouldn't work. Battle royale games only work because of skins but any Quake veteran would just force giant green man as the enemy and then nobody can see the kid's cool skin he bought for 20 bucks and that's the only reason why he plays the game

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HEY BETHESDA CAN I HAVE UHHH DEDICATED SERVERS AND NO FUCKING ELO IN CASUAL QC PLAY SO MATCHMAKING DOESN'T TAKE FOREVER SO YOUR FUCKING PLAYERBASE DOESN'T DIE DOWN EVERY TIME
>hahaha no we want to shut this game down, buy nuDoom2!

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nu-Doom is fucking whack too. Any momentum you get dies down immediately so you have to move at the standard, slow as fuck, speed. I can't believe how many zoomers love it, it's slow as fuck

I refuse to believe we don't have tons of Beth marketers at this point.
Every other FPS by beth gets laughed and insulted to hell but something so completely mediocre as the new Dooms keep getting "HOOOOLYYYY SHIIIT ITS DOOOOOOM" responses.

>retarded boomers want to jump around like complete idiots

>Gaylord Texan
he looks like he'll fit right in

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I want to go fast
If I wanted to go slow I would go for a walk outside you sissy little faggot. I swear zoomers get upset when you go 2 miles over the speed limit like old grannies. I fucking hate seeing you faggots on the freeway.

Zoomer building in Fortnite is the same as trick jumps in Quakes.
PROVE ME WRONG!

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then we're a fucking slave to corps

zoomzoom building is easy as shit
going fast is all simply rebinding rather than actual timing.

I think I need a 1ms 120hz monitor for a game like this.

I'm using a fucking LG TV with tons of motion blur, input lag and fucking screen tearing it's a pain in the ass. But I know I'll drop a buncha money on a monitor and I'll STILL be just as shit lol

fuck Tim Willits, fuck Syncerror, fuck Sponge and FUCK Quake Champions

who /Diabotical/ here?

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No one goes fast in duels (1x1, the only mode that matters), people even WALK there.

Muh "fast" jumping idiots with the brain turned off is cancer that killed Quake.

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Diabotical is fucking trash and QL clone.

What's the matter Adam? Worried you're going to be fired next?

duel exclusive fags killed Quake
TDM, DM, CTF, CA, Freeze Tag, etc. are all valid modes

No one played QL and no one played Quake 3 clones.
Diabotical will be dead on arrival.

i feel bad for tim, he was a big quake fan
even he knows that it's over, and that bethesdazenimax has brought id and their intellectual properties to an irrecoverable state

uh there was a dreamworks ice sculpture exhibit a few years ago i think. was pretty big and i think they might have had an ice shrek.

>No one played QL
I did, in fact it still has almost as many players as QC despite them putting it behind a paywall and trying to kill it with bad patches
>and no one played Quake 3 clones.
because they were shit, Diabotical actually looks good

Cool story, faggot.
I'm sure that you and another 100 players are actively playing QL.

>No one goes fast in duels
What the fuck am I reading

t. bronze shitter

Not true at all.

(You)

This is good news. Fuck Tim. Quake is better off without this freeloading fuckhead who ran id into the ground.

So does this mean Champions is killed?

WE never did get that Q3A mode for it, did we?

that smile, that's years of practice

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I don't play QL because it's a 20 year old game.
I don't play QC because it's garbage.

Diabotical will definitely do better than these games, even if it's a QL clone at least it's a clone of a good game.

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based

>Quake pros are already not that impressed by Diabotical, calling it QL clone.
source? so far literally every pro I've heard talk about it (e.g. cypher, strenx, etc) say it's great

Why can SC player continue to play their SCBW without bitching about it being 30 years old game, faggot?

Nobody plays Quake because it's SHIT.
Vocal retards who think that they are some fucking kind of "Quake veterans" never play it and in fact are the worst fucking Quake players you can ever imagine.

>strenx
>pro player
He's a fucking french clown.

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>Diabotical actually looks good
it looks like crap, it's the gameplay, server binaries and map tools what makes it attractive. Sadly, all the talented modders and map makers left long time ago because nobody wants to associate with ESRetards like you. Even if there was a modding scene you would still shit on it because IT'S NOT LIKE 1999 DAMMIT ACHOOO.

Also, moving the release date each month is not a good sign. 2gd got fucked by this new quake league so he has to wait after quakecon 2020 to release his fuckin vaporware game but he's quiet instead of being honest and tell people to just wait a couple of years.

>Why can SC player continue to play their SCBW without bitching about it being 30 years old game, faggot?
because it got a remaster (and it's still dead as fuck btw)
pros still play it because it still has tournaments, QC killed the competitive scene for QL

>Nobody plays Quake because it's SHIT.
Everyone I know who doesn't like Quake is just salty because they are bad at it, which you obviously are.

and Strenx is an aim god, certainly a lot more skilled than you or anyone in this thread

>it looks like crap
this is getting pathetic, kys QC shill

Thousands of people played it without any "remasters" and could easily continue to play it without any "remasters", dumb faggot.

They didn't change a single thing in a "remaster" and it's just a graphical uplift.

I could shit on your stupid acne face in 10 matches out of 10, I'd ask you to leave your nickname in QC and you'd dodge it, as always. I've seen it so many times already that it doesn't even make me laugh anymore. So instead of wasting my precious time, pull off your panties that you were using for 3 months without washing them and hit your face with them 10 times for each match that you've lost.

>t. gaylord

The first Quake game is the only one I acknowledge as a Quake game. The others are just spinoffs since they don't involve blasting away at armored knights in a gothic castle.

And Strenx is a trash fucking player who never won anything. No one cares about aim and there are lots of players with good aim who'd never win Rapha. Why? Because just like you, those imbeciles have no functional brain and cannot understand that 1x1 Quake is not just about being an "aim god", but it's futile to even try to explain that to some literal imbeciles, after all you'd not even be able to understand such simple matters.

goodbye tim
cuck champions cucked again

You don't know what you're talking about

but it looks like crap user, it's paladins but with eggbots instead of waifus. and why are you defending the graphics when most of the players are gonna turn every graphic option to the minimun and play it just like q3.

now go back to your shitty forum esretard.

youtube.com/watch?v=wNS8ukKHsWw

Bitch, you have no idea how good I am in Quake.
I'm a literal Quakedad for you, kid. Be respective to your elders.

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Why go on the internet to tell lies?
It boggles the mind.

Saying "durr I'm good" doesn't mean shit if you keep saying retarded things

What lie?

He's allegedly a big fan of q3a but never heard of QC despite the fact it's been released 2 years ago.

>I'd ask you to leave your nickname in QC
>QC
I already know you're a noob for saying QC instead of QL but just so you know my duel SR in QC was in the top 100 players back when I did play that shit game. If you were any good at Quake you wouldn't be calling it a shit game.

>And Strenx is a trash fucking player who never won anything.
pretty sure he won like a hundred online tournament and came top 3 at many LANs but okay :)

It's me and how many Quake fans knows all the Quake games? Ask people about Quake 4 and see how much they can tell you.. Most wouldn't be able to tell you shit

Leave it to /pol/ to ruin everything good.

it does have a server browser dude

>This thread
this fucking thread, man.

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They revived Doom, why shouldn't that work with Quake?

this smells like he got pushed out. qc rage1\2 etc were big flops

I never played QL because it's shit and Q3 OSP was the last time I played Q3.

QC is the first time that I'm playing Quake or any multiplayer FPS games overall after 15 years of never touching it and even if I'm out of my youthful shape, I'm still scaring zoomer faggots like you because you are always dodging 1x1 against me.

Always the same, never change you chickens with no balls and LOW TEST.

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QL is better than OSP

I live in Australia, no point 1v1ing if you don't

I stomp everyone in pub QC even with the matchmaking

Because online shooters have way more competition nowadays. It's hard to get kids interested in a game if they get curb stomped as soon as they join any server

>I live in Australia
My condolences.

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>National gaylord

obviously this

because instead of making a good game they
>outsourced to incompetent developer
>added MOBA shit that obviously doesn't work in Quake
>game doesn't even use id tech engine
>still no proper tutorials so noobs quit before even learning to strafe jump
>no server browser
>splitting playerbase across too many modes
>made too many shit maps like Lockbox and even remade shit maps like dm17
the list could go on

is that really Agent?

Nothing a bit of marketing can't change. Quake simply has too much legacy to be buried. Just give it a decent singleplayer, bang the drum and the players will come.

I like Doom 4 so I'm fine with that. I trust that team.

what's with this guy who keeps saying diabotical is "like QL"? what's a quake-inspired shooter supposed to be like?

This looks so bad.

>shit maps like dm17
The only part I strongly disagree with.

Regardless, I played QC after over a decade of tactical shooters and it felt really nice. Abilities don't even seem strong and it appears that purists are mad they exist in the first place.

honestly most arena shooters fail because they aren't enough like QL

>Reflex
meme air control
>Quake 4
meme crouch sliding
>Quake Champions
meme abilities

can't even think of any other QL clones, most "arena shooters" actually have garbage movement and weapons (bad influence from UT)

>performance is crap
yep, go play reflex arena

QL is literally QL and guess what, it's dead too.

>quitting
he was fired
"million dollar tournament"

Abilities were a good mix thrown into the arena matchup, albeit a bit unbalanced for awhile. HellKnight could two shot someone with a well placed rocket and tapping F and would shred anyone at close/mid range.

i'm surprised anyone at all prefers lack of air control

Actually QL is literally Q3, but you wouldn't know about that zoomer.

It was also by far the most active arena shooter until they killed it to make people play QC.

Marketing only goes so far. Casuals only play "hard" games like Dark Souls. They wouldn't be willing to perfect their aim over countless hours in a game like Quake. At some point the barrier is simply too high, that's why the players like it but at the same time many wouldn't even consider it for the exact same reason. Why play the game if someone can do 4 perfect railgun hits on you and you didn't even see him? I'm not saying it's impossible, I just think it's unlikely

>Bitching about color selection
>Not the fact that quake fucking has daily quests now "Get 2 headshots! Pick up 5 megahealths! Get 3 kills with the rocket launcher!"
>Not the fact that every character has different movement speed and stats and are locked behind paywalls or grindwalls
>Not the fact that the abilities are literally wallhacks and damage over time attacks and shit
>Not the horrendous performance and latency and hit detection problems
ok

>Actually QL is literally Q3, but you wouldn't know about that zoomer.
Trying way too hard to fit in, kid. Also, QL has no gore.
>It was also by far the most active arena shooter
Sure, the game's average of 50 players was steamrolling the competition's 0.

this.

Scalenigger
Gauntlet and choo-choo your gaylord ass

wow they really fucked up this map didnt they....holy shit...
god 1000 UPS rockets are way too fast

Nice literal reddit comment.

There actually is skill matching - the issue is that all the noobs and shitters quit and stop playing within 5 days, so you have no noobs and shitters to play against.

>player 1's skill: 31/100
>player 2's skill: 33/100
>player 2 wins by 20 frags, 23 to 3
welcome to cuck champions
kek yeah really learn a lot losing 40-0 in 10 minutes
oh wait they ruined QC so that it would only be 3-0, and then 3-0 again, 2 rounds :)

Battle Royale is a decided genre. Most of the recent entries have struggled. New BR games are not likely to have prolonged popularity.

>Actually QL is literally Q3
I thought QL adjusted rail damage and has cpma movement

It has been dead since 4, maybe they will someday give it the Doom 2016 treatment but seem they only consider Quake a purely multiplayer franchise at this point.

QC is trash bro
lmao

brave!

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DM17 sucks ass, though. I'll never get why the larger Quake Community likes it. There's far better maps (DM4 for smaller limits, for instance) to play in than "be a rail target or rail someone."

And I mean if you want to mess with railguns like that, there's Insta-gib to play on better playing maps.

Consider the following:
youtube.com/watch?v=vR1SFN_bwwE
You dont have to watch the whole thing of course. Just skip around. FAST fucking movement in duel.

>Actually QL is literally Q3
Yeah with loadouts and no gore kek

>Also, QL has no gore.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691078677
try again, zoomer

>Sure, the game's average of 50 players was steamrolling the competition's 0.
even though it has much more than that, confirmed again to be talking out your ass, how embarrassing

Fuck off with your revisionist history. I remember being 30,000th+ in queue to log into QL. And they had something like 1.8 million (million) accounts registered. maybe more i cant remember.

It fascinates me that people think Hillary and the democrats have legitimate good will for illegals.

>Yeah with loadouts
I doubt you could find a single server with loadouts, but you don't play Quake lol

>never won anything.
How quickly history forgets Shootmania

arena shooters will remain dead as long as the community (largely ex-gamers) oppose features that gamers will enjoy

I hope you fags realize AFPS will never take off with this bare bones anemic presentation only autists enjoy.

Arena shooter fans baffle me. They want new arena shooters, but never play them because they don't resemble the old games enough. You'd think they go back to playing those, but the servers are deserted, too. I have never seen a fanbase so dismissive of the games they're supposed to be playing. Fighting games are way more niche than arena shooters, and somehow they manage to skate by. At this point, it's safe to say you don't want to play anything. It's all about mere e-cred now.

1v1 aerowalk in qw

>mod
Thanks for proving my point.

I've put thousands of hours into QL but haven't played it in years, played QC a bit but let's be honest it sucks, waiting for Diabotical now, no other recent arena shooter has interested me, you'd maybe understand why if you knew anything about the genre

>Xonotic
>OpenArena
>AlienArena
>Nexuiz
>Warsow
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Yeah its not like republicans are separating children from their families, are detaining thousands of children in concentration camps, and are neglecting to give those children their basic health needs or anything!

fucking checked and kek'd

i agree, they should be returned to the country of origin post haste

Also no new AFPS is ever a full game with a campaign, interesting setting or characters nothing, I think people forget this genre actually started as singleplayer than the multiplayer aspect consumed it and now its completely lopsided in this one direction which only appeals to hardcore enthusiast.

>you'd maybe understand why if you knew anything about the genre
I'm probably older than you, cunt. And I played the actual Quake 3, not this pussy knockoff.

So, simply because republicans don't care about them, democrats do? That doesn't follow. Since you've brought it up, what is your solution for the refugee and immigration crisis, then?

Yeah it's weird.

Warsow and Reflex had everything the pro community demanded, and they generally refused to play either.

>poopflex
That's why Clawz trashed that egg-head retard in the finals and called him a joke many times afterwards.

>games literally nobody has heard of
>"lol why they dead xd"
actual brainlet

>things that never happened
steamcharts.com/app/282440#All

Cool story.

QL isn't a "knockoff" it's literally a patched version of the exact same game.

I wouldn't call myself an ARPG fan, but it is my experience that most all modern ARPGs are essentially budget titles at heart. No modern ARPG has had the quality and production values for its era that the classics did.

I agree. Back in the days, people would have never picked up Quake 3 if it hadn't been for the name. And even its tier based singleplayer with bots was fun to some extent. Multiplayer-only titles were an absolute novelty and id Soft took a huge risk.

Make it easier for illegals to become citizens instead of wasting time and money deporting them?

>Fighting games are way more niche than arena shooters
Lol no not even close

>called him a joke many times afterwards.
kek sauce?

They put QL on steam after it was dead, and killed it even more with the loadouts shit. You really are clueless about this aren't you? QL was most popular 2009-2012

quakelive's launch long predates its release on steam. and he's right, the queues in the early days were enormous.

>Using Steam charts to prove anything
Nigga, they weren't on Steam at all until like 2015. Try again.

nothing was ever good enough for you

you deserve it

>air control
>everything the pro community demanded
based clueless retard LARPing as a Quake player

>Fighting games are way more niche than arena shooters
???

What they really want is a skill based shooter based on the old games BUT with newer inovations that couldn't be done back then.

Imagine UT2004 but newer and with cooler movement based stuff. Like Titanfall 2 stuff. But all the modern "arena shooters" that came out were graphics card package models over a simple, uninspired Quake clone. They feel bad because Quake was a good foundation, but not much more than that.

So in the end, it's all a big fuckton of meh. Like Diabotical. I don't fucking know what are they thinking with that shit, but if i've ever seen an inminent crash and burn game is Lawbreakers and that one.

Promode ring a bell?

Right back at you, LARPer.

Doom Eternal could spearhead an arena shooter revival if id plays its cards right. So many players are lured in by the singleplayer.

Fuck I can't wait for Diabotical to come out.

Going to be the biggest case of I told you so.

>implying quake was alive after quake 2

Well, not anymore since self-proclaimed arena dads prefer bitching over actually playing.

>that egg-head retard in the finals
what are you talking about? his """win""" against vo0?
vo0 was a cpma god, he didnt waste much time on reflex. though he did win some reflex tournaments vs thump4 and sane and people like that. back in the day.

yes and it was never anywhere as popular as vq3 style movement

Quake 3 was more popular than Quake 2 dumb zoomer

right because QC's graphics really brought people in!
Fuck off totalbiscuit posting from the grave. All new arena shooters suck, all old ones are dead. People want to play them but most of the audience is playing apex legends / fortnite / pubg / csgo / rainbow6siege / mobas / autochess / starcraft

>2gd shows off some brand new game modes in diabotical
>arena cunts are upset, angry and confused by their inclusion
YOU DESERVE IT

Pretty sure this is just a bait post for guaranteed (You)'s but it's worth it to keep the thread alive

The entire point of internment is to keep track of them until they can be adjudicated and vetted to assure there are not disqualifying circumstances for residence. The lack of resources and sympathy has caused the poor conditions in the internment centers, but the only apparent alternative is to let them enter the country and travel freely and until such time as they could come to court dates on the honor system for vetting.

play path of exile, probably best ARPG quality
based GIOYC user

I think he meant it in a way of "I didn't like it".

Personally, I played Q2 first and Q1 afterwards was a huge disappointment to me. The hit feedback is minimal and the levels are completely indistinguishable from each other. It was just rushing through a brown maze while cool music was playing.

There is no real indication that they intend for doom to offer an arena shooter multiplayer experience.

????

Literally everyone thinks Wipeout looks good.

I don't care about Instagib.

>Quake 1 is the best Quake
>lol zoomer
Do you fucking retards even know what your made up words even mean?

>All new arena shooters suck, all old ones are dead.
And you are the ones to blame.
>People want to play them
Then why aren't they? Not even the classics see a significant amount of action.

all i've seen is whining and "hahaha what the fuck are you doing 2gd"
they're dead and you deserve it

>Gaylord
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>What they really want is a skill based shooter based on the old games BUT with newer inovations that couldn't be done back then.
Halo already did that but PCtards hated it because it was on consoles.

>right because QC's graphics really brought people in!
Well it did do a little better than previous attempts at this genre so I think it helped, QC got screwed by too many vets flocking to the game effortlessly stomping all the noobs and killing any chance for much a community to grow.

It never came to PC properly you liar dummy dumbs
They hype for the MCC on Steam was palpable, yo fucking know nothing and think your 3 wanker friends near your home are the whole PC market