2019. I am still pissed

It's not great but it's still good

You're a retard if you think this game is bad.

MGS4 is much better when you don't count the post credits scene

You are a retard if you don't know how to read

MGS4 was a much better game than 5. Idk what you could get mad at.

How many layers of old good new bad do you need to be on to think like this, MGSV is twelve times the game MGS4 is

4 was proof Kojima is a hack who can't write games himself, 5 was just more evidence of the fact.

For the 9 minutes of gameplay there was, it was the best in the series

Which do you prefer?

A game with no gameplay and great story (MGS4)
vs
A game with great gameplay and no story (MGSV)

>great story

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I'm glad you asked, I prefer both, that's why my favorite game in the series is MGS3

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I don't get it. I still don't get it. Of course the game is not the worst thing ever made... but we got this. One of the most expensive videogames ever made (back then. 60 fucking millions) and we got like 4 hours of gameplay. When all the budget goes to cinematics, then the game will be an incomplete piece of shit.

MGS4 is fanfiction. The scene where DUDE MERYL IS FIGHTING ALONGSIDE SNAKE AGAIN is where it all fell apart for me. Why did they bring back so many characters for no reason

MGSV is literally 2/5 the game MGS4 was you dumb zoomer

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Person you're responding too...

Patrician taste, friend.

>great story (MGS4)
Would you please explain and defend the nonsense you just wrote?

it's more of a movie than a game but it's still pure kino

youtube.com/watch?v=NZ_ZbMOreZI

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4 is a like a comedic fanservice parody
An absolute shitfest

>I was pretending to be retarded: The "Game"

I had a shit ton of fun with this, especially online. But then again it was my first MGS.

MGSV is a fantastic, 9/10 game, I sure am glad it's going to be 5 years old soon which I guess is the minimum number of years for this board to not pretend to hate things

What was your favorite mission? Mine was recruit the legendary gunsmith 2

>Want to replay MGS5
>Get to the opening sequence
>Uninstall the game
Fuck, I put 150 hours into that game and I forgot about the worst part

It's literally MGS4 but you get to play it instead of being halted every 2 hallways for Kojima to play director
I'm sorry not every square patch of dirt has 30 hours of narrative set up but millions of people are going to remember MGSV as a brilliant game because it's fun goober

Why did the Gekkos sound like cows?

>any MGS game
>great story
You just had to remind me of how shitty the Kojima drone taste is

Answer the question.

i tried to play mgs2 but the aiming is so fucking shit in first person

Fine it's the OKB Zero mission. Very good design

regardless
>Hey these side missions have generic names
>Hey I haven't touched a controller in 40 minutes... wtf the game is over I haven't even gotten to play since Chapter 2
Do you really think the top complaint will have a more negative impact on most people's experience than the bottom?
MGSV doesn't have story attached to a lot of it's content, but the game is fun. MGS4 is frustrating, tedious, and just fucking annoying, and I won't be back for a second playthrough in this lifetime. It is the worst game in the series and it's not close

>Hey this game in a story driven serieshas no story
>Hey this game in a story driven series has too much story
I wonder which is going to be considered worse

The little gameplay MGS4 has is miles better than the reptitive empty sandbox horseshit in V. I'll take the bad MGS game over the Call of Duty game pretending to be an MGS game.

If MGS was your first, 4 is a fucking insult.

MGSV would've benefitted from a lot more bit towns and facilities. The few it has are a boatload of fun and interesting. Issue is the other 90% of the map being barren nothingness with the occasional hut or bear.

My first was 2 and I think 4 was terrible.

>story-driven series
Story and gameplay used to play nice and give way to each other in MGS3 and 2. If we have to pick one I will pick gameplay every time. Storyfags fired the first shot by pretending MGS4 didn't get eaten alive by it's story. Gameplaychads came back with MGSV and suplexed that turd into the dirt. Good riddance

That's the point. Kojima can't into open world. It would have been the GOAT of the franchise and perhaps one of the best of all time, if the sandbox was filled with sidequests, more personal decisions that affected the story, actual villages with civilian NPC's affected by battlefield, and interesting shit to loot. Ground Zeroes ended up being more faithful despite being a tech demo.

V has no gameplay. Unless you're talking about Ground Zeroes and not Phantom Shit.

MGS4 has more in common with CoD than V does. They're both overly cinematic linear games with little gameplay.

MGSV is the better game than MGS4.

Fourth game should have just released as a novel and it would be 10x better than what it was

I'm not. While it had flaws it had some damn good moments that make up for a lot of them.

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Not at all. V is the CoD clone. Regenerative health, sprinting, helicopter support, bullet sponge bosses, slow motion handicap, buddy system, weapon classes instead of onsite procurement. I've spent more time playing and having fun with the first two acts of MGS4 and Ground Zeroes than the entirety of Phantom Pain.

Should have ended with snake shooting himself

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>V has no gameplay
and i suppose war is peace and freedom is slavery
what was I doing for 150 hours then

Literally none of the things you mentioned are elements of Cod except regenerating health. Try again.

You were running around an empty sandbox playing the same sidequests and missions over and over and over again.
youtu.be/T6cJSbYbQZE?t=110

>playing
>no gameplay
Hmmmmm....

Well all the missions were different, and the sandbox wasn't empty, it was actually full of missions you see
not even gonna click your eceleb faggotry, just accept getting told what to think didn't pan out for you this time

Weapon classes, sprinting, and helicopter support that plays out exactly like a killstreak isn't CoD? Try again. The rest were other shit that came to mind that casualizes the fuck out of V's campaign for CoD babbies. V to the MGS franchise is like what Reach is to the Halo franchise. A soulless casualized prequel to bring in newcomers to the franchise for money.

Keep at it, you'll get used to it and it's heavily improved in 3

not a fan of mgs but why is MGS3 on here twice?

>for no reason
For closure, retard.

>all the missions were different
Chapter 2 is literally the same exact Chapter as 1 with added difficulty. Every sidequest is repetitive. Wow, finding the Legendary Gunsmith the 3rd time was so much more different than the first time, user.

One of them is the Pachinko version.

I prefer it to MGS5 as it had good boss fights.

Yes, "playing" as in playing out a crawling simulator.

>big boss out of nowhere
>good moment
so this is the IQ of an MGS fan

Funny I don't recall killstreaks in Cod single-player.
>sprinting
>he is literally butthurt about being able to run
>he literally claims that the physical capability of running is a CoD feature
Nevermind, think whatever you want based retard.

That moment alongside Snake and Liquid fighting on Outer Haven were so much more kino than whatever random shit was put into MGS4. For the hate MGS4 gets about nanomachines, everyone seems to gloss over that Skullface was completely underwhelming as a main villain and the retardation of VOCAL CHORD PARASITES.

Let me guess, is V your first MGS game? You don't have to lie. I won't judge you.

psychological warfare, the sounds of cicadas and cows are meant to represent the countryside/home and I dunno saying that being at home is a chiller alternative to fighting giant hopping tankdudes

Imagine not liking both MGS4 and MGSV despite the huge flaws both have

>out of nowhere
>the game slowly drips you details about Big Boss throughout the story
>then you find out he's still alive
>then you find out everything went down not just to shut down the Patriots but to rescue Big Boss
>surprised he shows up at the end
Apparently you need an above average IQ to follow the plot of MGS4 if people like you can't even keep up.

MGS has never been good. It's a fucking Yea Forums pseudo-game with crap gameplay and is one of the reasons gaming started going to shit in the late 90s.

Based /vr/oomer

I'm tired of the MGS4 is bad meme, fuck off. Everyone loved it when it came out, it's a great game, it has it's flaws but they're greatly exaggerated.

>Dosen't like stealth gameplay, needs a hourlong cutscene on either side to feel like it means anything
Good thing you and your worthless thoughts have no impact on anything, and you can do nothing beyond sit there and stir your nostalgia of your cutscenestation 3 while I have fun with MGSV, except I can't because I played all 150 side missions and enjoyed every minute of it

I like MGS1 but I can agree with you on that. MGS1 was the first game to bring cinema style story telling to vidya and it went downhill from there.

MGSV was worse.

Being angry for nanomachines explanations but being okay with the retardation that was MGS2 ending is the real sign of a true brain damaged individual.

When I play MGS4, I skip the cutscenes, so don't come at me with that movie shit. If you enjoy MGSV then good for you. But I have every right to say it's a repetitive empty broken mess of a game.

Merging more cinematics with games was inevitable. Actually delusional if you guys think it would have never happened without MGS.

>Merging more cinematics with games was inevitable.
Says fucking who?

It would have happened eventually yes, but MGS1 is the starting point and thus receives the blame for it as any other title would if it had been the first.

>but being okay with the retardation that was MGS2 ending is the real sign of a true brain damaged individual.
I don't get why people still think MGS2 was meant to be a definite ending to the series when it ends with the main villain still alive.

imagine calling mgsv repetitive while supposedly playing MGS4 more than 2 times max.
Trying to handwave the cutscenes with "I skip them" is fucking retarded because now you're just playing the same 1.5 hours of gameplay over and over. That's repetitive in the literal sense, not the unga bunga open world bad sense

Resident Evil 1 & 2 and Final Fantasy VII all came before MGS1 (and on the same console too) and they were pretty cinematic.

>hurrr muh 100% gameplay experience
Typical Yea Forumsirgin autist. I would rather play the MGS series 10 times over than play a whole gameplay experience like hollow knight.

Kojima himself stated it was supposed to be the final game with the plot being a parody on people wanting more sequels for things.

>Kojima himself stated it was supposed to be the final game with the plot being a parody on people wanting more sequels for things.
[citation needed]

Condensed linear gameplay with warring factions is more satisfying than a casual empty sandbox game that doesn't even reward you for stealth. Might as well play Just Cause or Mercenaries 2 at that point.

I'm in metal gear solid 3 for the first time right now playing through the series what should i know?

They had cutscenes and plot but none of them adopted any kind of cinematography out of real basic shit. MGS1 used a bunch of techniques popular in cinema with the focus being on the plot.

Cope Razorfist

>starting with 3
Play it in release order you clown.

Like what?

nice prediction that i just started with snake eater bro

i forget this game even exists, i remember 1, 2, 3 and 5, but always forget 4

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There's nothing worth getting pissed over this movie.

and anyone who does play it in chronological order first is a dipshit

>great story
Snake's ass was all the story I needed.

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Well both of these statements are completely illogical and retarded so I can't answer. MGS4 has gameplay, and MGSV has a story. Fuck you, I hate you guys who says V has no story because it didn't end the way you wanted. KYS.

>tfw no frog gf

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>MGSV
>Great Gameplay
False
>MGS4
>Great Story
False

PC port when?

octo camo is based

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Probably it was a PS3-exclusive when all the other mainline MGS games have been ported to everything else.

>V having great gameplay
Fucking what.

I like raiden

Oh for a hardcore stealth experience, play MGS4, a game where you can whip out the pause menu and teleport yourself 10 M4 suppressors or simply wait for teams red and blu to kill each each other.
>dosen't even reward you for stealth
The fulton recovery system is the first example of a game giving you a concrete reason to not kill people beyond the threat of an embarassing results screen

Do you have a single point beyond appealing to the anti-open-world circlejerk?

Best online i have ever played. The greatest of all time. RIP mgo2.

>wait for team red and blue to kill each other
Have you even played the game? Militia always gets raped by the PMCs if you don't help them

You were never a true MGS fan to begin with if you couldn't see the beauty in 4's ending.

oops wrong thread

>good stealth level
>good stealth level
>an hour of walking
>pointless nostalgia wank with no human enemies
>clunky third-person shooter section
>an hour of cutscenes
>game ends
>sike! another hour of cutscenes

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to this day, the Mt Snakemore cutscene is the only moment in any game that made me lose my shit and say "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!"

>sprinting around empty sandbox doing fetch quests
>second chapter is the same
>game ends

I started playing 3 last night

Why the fuck can't you crouch and move? Why is aiming so god damn annoying?

Why can't Japanese developers have games with good controls?

you forgot
>Zero story progression

Great gameplay, no story. Any fucking day.

2 > 3 > GZ > 1 > V > 4

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now THIS is something I will never not be mad about

>MGS4
>no gameplay
The two and a half levels of gameplay that it did have brought me more joy than the entirety of MGSV. Literally the only fun part of MGSV is grinding sideops with a cute girl merc while listening to podcasts.

2 > 3 > 1 > GZ > AC!D > V > PW > 4 > Portable Ops

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I don't have to be a cock sucker to enjoy a franchise so go fuck yourself bro

Reminder that TTS > MGS

>Why can't Japanese developers have games with good controls?
Unfortunately for you, universal CoD control schemes weren't invented yet.

2 > 3 > TTS > 1 > REVENGEANCE > V > AC!D > GZ > 4 > PW > Portable Ops > MG2 > MG

>tfw played through it twice with the original controls and camera before subsistence
You kids bitch and moan too much, try sneaking through the jungle with mgs 2 camera and no radar

Ghost Babel > 1 = 3 = 4 > 2 > GZ > TPP > PW
Haven't played the MSX/NES games yet.

>Everyone loved it when it came out
top revisionism

I remember seeing posts on Archived Moe and Yea Forums praising the game but memeing on the wacky fanservice storyline.

absolute shit taste

I wonder who's behind this post...

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>they don't play them in Alphabetical order

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Same goes for anyone who puts V anywhere near the front. I'm not here to pander to zooms on Yea Forums.

Reminder that Metal Gear Cutscene > Metal Gear Fulton 2

But at least you are not forgotten

>not playing in chronological order

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>we've reached the time when Yea Forumsirgins will unironically claim that MGS4 is better than MGSV in any capacity

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it is tho

Legit masterpiece.

And that's a good thing

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MGS4 despite its flaws and going overboard in many places is at least a real MGS game. MGSV is empty "open world" third-person-shooter #4,568 with an incomplete mess of a story and an absent protagonist and a plot reveal that literally makes the game completely pointless in context to the series.

>an incomplete mess of a story(...) and a plot reveal that literally makes the game completely pointless in context to the series.
you just perfectly described MGS4's story

MGS4 has a pointless plot reveal?

the Guns of the Patriots scene

I hope you're joking. MGS1 was my first, and MGS4 just straight up shat all over the story build leading up to it.This was the last game I was genuinely hyped for a game.

Jesus Christ, how braindead you have to be to not see MGS4 as anything than a hate letter to the Solid Snake/Raiden titles. Clearly Kojima at that point grew to despise Solid Snake, and was much more interested in the story of Big Boss and co. For Heaven's sake, he made THREE games about Big Boss + one about his phantom (Venom). And that's not counting Portable Ops. He retconned the shit out of the events of MG, MG2 and partially MGS in Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain. It's clear he was aiming for a retcon/soft reboot.

Then how did you react to V? I suppose V defiled the corpse of the franchise after 4.

bro don't you want contrarian points? that's all that matters here on Yea Forums, stop making sense

When Big Boss tells Snake to put down the gun and live, I always took that as Kojima's way of telling the player to put down the controller and move the fuck on. The entire game was a satire of all the FPS multiplayer AAA titles flooding the industry at the time.

Remember that the intended ending by Kojima was Solid Snake being executed. If that doesn't tell you what he thinks about the character, I don't know what does.

For all this games many, many flaws it did deliver one of the most kino final boss fights in the entire history of vidya. That’s something

I haven't played V to be honest. After MGS4 I jumped off the MGS wagon. It really disappointed me. I still watched some media, but it just seemed like it strayed further and further away from anything resembling MGS.

What I recommend is treating Big Boss' story (MGS3, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain) as a separate continuity, especially since the latter three titles basically completely retcon MG1 and MG2 out of existence, as well as making MGS1 even more nonsensical than it was.

The frogs soldier were cute

SNAKEEATERRR

>killstreaks invented helicopters

Holy shit, is that a CoDkiddie I see? In this very videogame imageboard? Not so fast there, buddy.

2 > 1 = 3 > V > 4

2 > V > 1 > 3 > 4

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Thanks, but I'm good. I haven't really followed MGS for a long time. Just peak into discussions from time to time.The canon and overall storyline is so cluttered I'm just letting it be as it is.

I will say though that MGSV was a huge missed opportunity to tie in the plot with the original MG in my opinion. It would've been cool to know it ended somewhere before the boss fight with Solid Snake started. Kind of like a cliffhanger.

Jesus, people are still claiming MGS is a good game?
- Entire premise of the game relies on the fact that Kojima didn't understand the basics of genetics.
- Main character is stolen from a Carpenter movie.
- Levels are basically glorified corridors.
- Dialogues are so cringe they had to be saved in translation.
- Barely any actual stealth mechanics.
- Gameplay constantly interrupted by cutscenes and "talking heads" (Codex).
- Short as shit.
- Released in the same year as "Thief: The Dark Project", a superior product in every way (as a stealth game).

The problem is that kojimbo never anticipated so many games

MGSV had a great, suttle story.
MGS4 had a brick wall of a shit story
Prove me wrong

The problem is that Kojimbo was actively soft rebooting the franchise, starting as soon as Peace Walker.

is this copypasta?

No. It's mine.

Yeah he posts his shit bait in every mgs thread

This is the first time I've written it, so either you're a time traveller, or mentally retarded.

>Jesus Christ, how braindead you have to be to not see MGS4 as anything than a hate letter to the Solid Snake/Raiden titles

I saw it as "I want out of the MGS series so I will tie up every freaking plothole. No matter the cost"

Yes. And then he went on to make Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, and Phantom Pain. All about Big Boss. Funny how he didn't grow tired of him.

>Literally tried to write in a rape scene hoping it would be enough to get him booted

While I can't really blame the guy, he should've still stayed true to the storyline he originally initiated. Soft rebooting it somewhere in the middle for some reason made no sense. But, then again I have my doubts how much of the interesting narrative and vision he was actually responsible for after the whole Fukushima debacle and when he instructed Silicon knights to make some ridiculous changes in the remake. His body language in interviews and how he socially engages/behaves on twitter further amplifies it. Then again I can also imagine being thoroughly exhausted after making nothing, but one MGS after another.

Your headcanon does not count. Kojima was the vice-president of Konami. He didn't "have" to take part in directing another MGS game. Portable Ops is the best proof of that.

Oh, the rape tapes don't exist? His statements on putting something so taboo that he could be exiled never happened?

this game was initially the reason I wanted a PS3 but I ended up never playing it in the end. I think I'm fine with having my experience of this franchise end with MGS3
and MGR

That statement was about Phantom Pain, not Ground Zeroes. And, are you trying to tell me that a rape scene in a JAPANESE GAME was supposed to get him booted out of the game industry?

You mean the game that's heavily designed to appease western audiences?

>the post credits scene

someone post the image

Which is a shame because MGS2 is incredible and you won't see a game like it anywhere else. 4 is a great game too. They all are.

Yes, exactly that, the Japanese game that was also released in the West. Just like most of them.

Whoa get a load of this complete dumbass right here lads.

>Which is a shame because MGS2 is incredible

until Arsenal Gear

made by the biggest Ameriboo in world history?

Jesus, you're moving the goalpost so far I can almost see Mars. Jus admit you posted something stupid. It's nothing to be ashamed about.

Yes then it goes from incredible to GOAT

Goalposts are exactly where they started. Kojima, and his games have appealed to American Audiences over a significant Japanese majority since 1998, and almost all Japanese influences left the series by MGS3. the series since then is something you'd expect from an American Dev, appealing to American stockholders for over a decade now

It's flawed as fuck but there's something about it that connected with me when I replayed it years later.

The feeling of aging out of a world that used to be second nature to you and Snake accepting that it's okay for the world to be flawed at the end of his life is something that feels relatable in a much less dire sense. Plus the gameplay is a much more focused (IMO) version of the "Sandbox stealth" gimmick that MGSV was built around. I just wish the framerate was better.

11 years later, and you guys are still seething.
Also, only zoomers prefer MGSV.

The story may have been silly, but online made up for it tenfold.

MGS3 > MGS2 = MGS1 > MGSV GZ > MGS4 > MGSP2 > MGSV TPP
don't even @ me with objectively incorrect things like disagreeing

You played The Twin Snakes, didn't you?

>11 years later, and you guys are still seething.
>Also, only zoomers prefer MGSV.
do you seriously not see how these two statements contradict?
who am I kidding, you just spout stupid shit to get (You)'s to substitute for all of the attention your single mother never gave you
1/10 I responded

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This is actually my most played game of the series. I remember doing multiple themed playthroughs of it too

>Yes then it goes from incredible to GOAT

>story gets thrown out
>the lying AI goes full retard, then expects you to listen
>naked cartwheels
>two poorly designed bossfights, one of which forces a new weapon on you that you have zero time to practice on

that's not GOAT material

>the lying AI goes full retard, then expects you to listen
that's the point you subhuman, don't even respond to me, I already know your IQ is room temperature at best based on what you've just posted

>Plot twist is "Throwing the story out"
Literally every game with an actual story BTFO

It gave me sweet FROG ass so I won't completely hate it.

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>that's the point

Why should I listen to the AI after it's outed as a liar?

What a fuckin dumb thing to say.
The original MGS was my first and 4 is unadulterated kinography.

Thief sucks.

That would have sucked.

>youtube.com/watch?v=uLNNP4_0QYw
>tfw I would just spend literal hours bullying the FROGs
Am I a bad person?

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I legit cannot play MGS2 and 3 on PS2 with the abhorrent framerates. 2 might actually be 60 and I just misremember, but I know for a fact 3 had an abysmal frame rate

Reminder that beside Ocelot and Ray, MGS4 and MGSV had the worst boss from the serie, any spin offs included.
yes, even pic related from Survive are better than the random girls from 4.

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0/10 projecting your momma was a whore.

Sahelanthropus was probably the only good Metal Gear fight in the whole franchise
yes, including the shitstorm that was Rex

>hey guys the game had bad boss fights just don't pay attention to the good ones
Fuck off.

It came out ages ago user it's time to let it go nigga

>bullet sponges
No

My biggest gripes with this game, is the gameplay is good but there isn't enough of it. I enjoyed all the beast boss fights for the most part, the new the octocamo shit was cool and fit in. But the fact that theres only two real levels, the first two.The city is barely a real level, shadow moses was cool but also just nostalgia although it had a lot of good moments. It felt wrong because the cutscenes were longer than the gameplay was. If they had double the gameplay sections but same amount of cutscenes it would be a far better game.

you mean like every other time you fight metal gear?

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One of the greatest MGS of all time. Fuck off

but worse than the first 3 right, so by one of the best you mean at least 4th

2 > 1 = 3 > PW >(almost =) 4 >>> 5

Jesus christ what a dumb nigger

My first is MG on NES and basically you're all bitches

I wish Fireden wasn't down so I could call you out for your bullshit.

t. plebs that got filtered.
Keep crying niggers.

>Kojima was the vice-president of Konami.
One of multiple vice-presidents in Konami's vidya division. He was not the only vice-president in Konami and hardly had any influence on the actual parent company.

t. Enjoyed the last of us

This. Vice President was basically a show title

The NES port was one of the worst of the series. According to Kojima, even Snake's Revenge is closer to being a Metal Gear game than the butchered NES port of the original.

The little gameplay in 4 and the inclusion of MGO2 was actually good compared to V. It's not just about muh cinematics

If MGS4 had gameplay like Act 1 throughout the game with less bullshit it would have been GOAT

If MGSV was actually complete, and the map had a better balance between empty areas and population centers It would be waaaaaaaay better.
But it's not so we'll never get that experience

I know. It's still my first. was too young though could never really get far

Still better than MGSV.

>sucks kojimbo's cock for 3 hours of gameplay

>Russian occupied Afghanistan
>Never see any Afghan at all

Did you play the game? Do you not know about the marketing around the game before it came out?

but the one pashto guy and malak!

>In Africa
>Trying to find the Viscount of a british PMC
>Literally everyone speaks in a Californian Accent
>Nobody actually knows how to pronounce Viscount

The NES Metal Gear did well enough back in its day for Konami to keep the series going up to this day. I always thought its flaws were blown out of proportions.

I'm still right though its worse than the first three

If they ever remake the two MG games, I hope they change nothing of the story and mechanics. I WANT to trick guards into thinking it's night by hatching an owl to hoot

>If they ever remake the two MG games, I hope they change nothing of the story and mechanics.
So you want a straight port then? Just play the Subsistence versions in that case.

Obviously update the game to fit the Fox Engine, but I don't want to lose the silliness the game had. Give me Coward Duck

I'm only pissed that it has remained exclusive for such a time and didn't come to PC easily, but that's as much on Konami as anything.

Thankfully RPCS3 is making progress and it will be playable soon, along with the rest of the Legacy/HD Collection.

Here's to hoping we can play at 60fps without 2080 TIs

MGS1 : Pure kino, the idea of a rogue unit holding a military black project hostage was a highly-believable idea, all the foxhound members had their own motives and backstories, and their "superpowers" were still somewhat grounded in reality. Great plot twists etc, limited by technology.

MGS 2: Better graphics, great first half, shits itself in the second half with supernatural "muh patriots" bullshit

MGS3 : A return to kino, greatly improved gameplay, kino story and that fucking twist at the end

MGS4 : a literal movie that shits all over the story they've built so far, so far up it's own ass with retcons and supernatural bullshit it was almost offensive. Raiden was cool and sunny was cute though

I gave up after that, I assume V and peace walker etc are just more of the same shit

Come to think of it there were no people in the game that weren't enemies or rescuable prisoners

i could write blogs about mgs4 being a depressing mess of a game but i do love it and i like murdering 50 guys with the automatic rifle until snake vomits

Wrong opinion on mgs2. The rest is alright.

MGSV's story was trash but I still liked the open-world approach.

Every mainline Metal Gear game is good.

>mgsv
>great gameplay

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kill yourself

I agree with him. Since when does V have good gameplay? It’s the most casual sandbox experince I’ve had since Just Cause 2.

It did the open world approach horrendously. MGS only works with a linear or encapsulated level design that’s condensed with guards, traps, and loot. Empty sandlot with tiny outposts scattered about is the wrong way to go especially when there’s no NPC’s to interact with or areas to explore.

dilate, cope, have sex, yaddayadda...

>2019. I still have no taste
Yeah, but did you need to kill a thread to tell us this?

Newfag.

What thread?

>not the Rex VS Ray fight in MGS4

You have shit taste.

Wow what a piece of brainless faggot

>cutscene
>cutscene
>cutscene
>AMAZING GAMEPLAY
>cutscene
>cutscene
>cutscene
>cutscene
>MORE AWESOME AS FUCK GAMEPLAY
>cutscene
>cutscene
>cutscene
Why must MGS be plagued with this horseshit

You can skip the cutscenes if you want.

Or even just VR missions. I hate that MGS4 wastes such a good control scheme on a barely interactive movie.

So you spend money on a game just to skip 50% of the content

Why not if you enjoy it more that way?

all metal gear games are deeply misunderstood even by its fanbase. storytelling was never the focus

they all have the exact same outline of "military dude snake sneaks into enemy stronghold and sometimes fights bosses and stops a maniac up to no good with nuclear weapons"

mgs4 is a bad metal gear because kojima didn't want to do it and let shuyo murata do half the directing. the heavy amount of cutscenes and low amount of gameplay was because the ps3 was a technical clusterfuck and the gameplay idea kojima wanted to do (factions vs factions that intelligently react to snake in a wide open battlefield) were not feasible. it ran on the mgs3 engine and didnt have a large budget

>and didnt have a large budget
what do you mean?

Of course I will skip the cutscenes during my second playthrought. And I will get a 3 hours long game. That is wasting money. So it's not that "enjoyable"

>buy $60 game
>skip all cutscenes
>get a one hour game for 60 bucks

>mgs4
>50% gameplay 50% cutscenes
what did he mean by this?

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Then you probably should have done your research before spending $60 on a 10 year old game now shouldn't you?

>To geninuely prove a game is bad, you have to play it yourself
>Don't buy a game if you don't like it

I hated all this shit even more when the gameplay was at its highest peak but had 0 level design to make it enjoy at its fullest.
and fuck the last 10 minutes wot big boss.
Fuck Big Boss, fuck Kojima. Fuck Kojima's sucking on big boss dick and fuck MGSV.
Should had ended at MGS3.

So uhh where is the new mgs game? Wasn't Konami hiring people for mgs6?
And why hd collection is not on ps4/xbone/switch/pc yet?
WHY DID THEY PORT MGS 2 AND 3 TO A FUCKING NVIDIA SHIELD, A DEAD PLATFORM NOBODY USES, BUT THEY DIDN'T PORT IT TO MODERN PLATFORMS?

>The entire game was a satire of all the FPS multiplayer AAA titles flooding the industry at the time.
I guess things haven't changed much.

it didnt have a large budget. mgs5 (of the same hardware generation - remember the pc/bone/ps4 versions are like day 1 remasters of the ps3/360 versions) cost over $80 million. we dont know how much mgs4 cost but it was less than half and if it was anywhere close to half it would have had to been a multiplatform game

mgs4 is a 2008 game that costed $60 m.

Thats pretty pathetic.

ken imaizumi said rumors it cost 5 billion yen ($45m~) were fake and if had cost that much it would have been multiplatform

>dishonest game
fuck off back to Yea Forums you cock sucking nigger

to put less than $40 million in perspective for being low budget for the type of game mgs4 was in 2008: halo 2 & half-life 2 (2004/previous gen) and final fantasy 7/9 (1997 & 2000/two gens previous) cost that much. ps3/360 required a multiplied workload and the ps3 was a particularly retarded catastrophe

that this was an entirely moronic lazy decision is evidenced by literally nobody else outside of sony first party in the industry ever making a significant ps3 exclusive. even demons souls had sony bankrolling

what the hell is a dishonest game

>And why hd collection is not on ps4/xbone/switch/pc yet?
it is tho?

youtu.be/OeNayQKP0v4

Yeah I'm still pissed too. Pissed that MGS5 didn't live up to this masterpiece.

Hey I use my Shield for emulation. I didn’t know they ported it there. Thanks user, I’m going to get it now!

>MGSV is fanfiction. The scene where DUDE QUIET IS FIGHTING ALONGSIDE SNAKE AGAIN is where it all fell apart for me. Why did they bring back so many characters for no reason

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more like

a small amount of good gameplay and a lot of bad story but still entertaining (mgs4)
vs
a huge amount of good gameplay (less challenging but feels really sexy) and a medium amount of good enough story but kinda unfinished (mgs5)

I'd pick mgs5!

Ocelot's entire character in MGSV is to disagree with Miller.
>Snake she tried to kill you!
>Boss, look at this *Hands Quiet Revolver*

>MGS4 is fanfiction. The scene where DUDE MERYL IS FIGHTING ALONGSIDE SNAKE AGAIN is where it all fell apart for me. Why did they bring back so many characters for no reason
because kojima didnt want to make the game and all those things are to give retards what they ask for and deserve
quiet was a new character

MGSV is fanfiction. The scene where DUDE OCELOT IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!! is where it all fell apart for me. Why did they put in so many purposeless characters?

the only person ocelot cleans up his act around and acts nice for is big boss. as soon as he snaps out of his self hypnosis at the end he immediately starts to plot to one day kill venom because ONLY big boss matters to him lmao

also yes ocelot reflexively disagrees with everything miller says because fuck miller nobody else gets to be big bosses friend especially not that cipher rat

What is it with Quiet character? can someone explain it to me? We first saw her trying to kill Venom and then git burned alive and fall off from what I assume a top floor of the hospital. The next time we saw her, she's completely healed, wearing a bikini, have super power. And then there's the motivation, clearly she can escape from the helicopter at any given time but she's stay hidden all the way to base until the jet fighter trying to shoot it. WHY THE FLYING FUCK WOULD SHE JOINED DD? there's no reason to, she doesn't gain anything

youtube.com/watch?v=DIfUB376xvU
>zoomzooms will claim MGSV the phantom protagonist could even approach, let alone TOUCH the kino that is MGS4
What is Yea Forums coming to

>I sure am glad it's going to be 5 years old soon
Jesus fuck it doesn't even feel like it was that long ago.

its pretty simple bro she wanted revenge. if she escaped from the helicopter she wouldn't be able to kill mother base would she

as she spends time on mother base and with snake she realizes they arent bad guys. snake wasnt even the one to BTFO her it was ishmael

that whole scene and boss fight is literally joke tier. liquid is a guy pretending to be liquid self-awarely re-enacting the fight atop rex but this time they are old people fighting for literally no reason on a soulless submarine. the fight mechanics are like a shitty tekken, instead of the earnest use of the actual gameplay in MGS2 and 3 and even 1 for what it was. its the biggest passive aggressive middle finger to pathetic otaku fanboy scum in the entire series

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mgs should have been a 90s anime

This is why I love Kojima. He gets to simultaneously fuck over and get worshiped by the MGS fanbase. Imagine being him walking out onto a stage and being cheered on by the same people that you knowingly con.

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Have sex