For context, I love a lot of what Nintendo has done, especially the latest Smash Bros.
Switch has sold 30-40m by now, for the time it has been out that's good by Nintendo console standards. It will end up probably selling more than any of Nintendo's home consoles other than the Wii and maybe the NES, and we all know the Wii was a fluke.
However, Nintendo is basically combining their handheld and home consoles for the first time since before the GameBoy. The 3DS is dying, and there's no new replacement handheld looking to take its place. All the games usually reserved for handhelds in recent years are coming to Switch instead (Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing) so it's obvious Nintendo is putting all their eggs in one basket.
So when you look at it that way, and compare the sales of the Switch to even just Nintendo's handhelds, it's not such a pretty picture. The DS ended up selling over 100m. The Switch will likely never reach that number going by trends, unless it's out for 10 years with no successor. The Nintendo market is drying up. This is just comparing the Switch to other Nintendo HANDHELDS, not combining the two markets, which Nintendo seems to have done.
tl;dr Switch is selling well as a Nintendo console but underperforming as a handheld let alone the idea it's combining the two
Yeah why you think they are desperate to branch out to mobile? Nintendo knows they're fighting a losing battle and are desperately looking for other venues of revenue.
why do you think they made the switch lite sherlock?
Michael Lewis
Nintendo has sold 124.1 million units this gen, not counting classic consoles
Sony has sold 111.8 million units this gen
Camden Ortiz
>Is the Switch really a success?
>In therms of sales? Yes >In therms of quality games so far? Yes >In therms of games overall? Yes totally >In therms of producing butthurt on this and other websites because people thought Nintendo wo go Third Party YES
Samuel Gutierrez
3DS is hardly this gen faggot
Michael Nguyen
Why did you become enraged just now?
Alexander Hughes
Lies has that effect on me
Tyler Ward
That doesn't make it okay to be homophobic you worthless cunt.
Wyatt Perez
But 3DS is 8th gen, this isn't up for debate
Asher Ross
>that's good by Nintendo console standards No it's just straight up good. The industry leader wasn't doing any better after just two years.
Landon Gutierrez
Bait
Christian Walker
>Lies has that effect on me Fix your grammar, you satanic shithead.
Hunter King
>Is the Switch really a success? Yes.
Jackson Butler
'bate is what you'd do if I showed you my long, black cock
Fast forward a few years and FGO is making more bank than PokeGo kek
Oliver Perry
Switch has more exclusives in the same timeframe compared to the Ps4
Juan Gutierrez
Nah it has both
Lucas Ward
>So when you look at it that way, and compare the sales of the Switch to even just Nintendo's handhelds, it's not such a pretty picture. The DS ended up selling over 100m. Why are you only comparing it to the most successful handheld of all time? The Switch could very well reach 3DS/GBA numbers if it keeps selling well.
3DS+Wii U did 85 millions. Switch alone can get to or close to 100.
>The DS ended up selling over 100m. The Switch will likely never reach that number going by trends The DS is the best-selling system ever together with the PS2 at around 155 millions, those will never be replicated. Switch is trending at about the same pace as PS4, which is close to 100 millions. 100 millions has been the standard for Nintendo's home console + handheld sales in every gen barring the Wii+DS one.
Caleb Gutierrez
Stop putting these thoughts in my head.
Henry Jones
But still no Bloodborne-tier must-play exclusive. Instead it's the same tired bing bing shit minus third-party games.
Good point, but I don't think the DS was as flash in the pan as the Wii. It wouldn't be unfair to compare a handheld/console hybrid to that.
Tyler Sullivan
>Switch is trending at about the same pace as PS4, which is close to 100 millions Switch is already reaching a $200 price point though and Nintendo systems don't have the longevity of Playstation consoles.
Difference between multiplats and 2013 Wii U ports sold for full price.
Asher Morgan
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Cooper Bennett
>good for a Nintendo console I mean it's outpacing what the PS4 did in the same time frame so I'd say it's just plain good. Unless it straight up stops selling it'll go down as one of the best selling consoles ever
Wyatt Phillips
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David Foster
Any handheld looks like a failure next to the DS. Do you think the 3DS was a failure too with "only" 75 million units sold? If the Switch ends up reaching a similar number, calling it a failure would be stupid, especially when you consider that every single Nintendo homo console (expect for the Wii) sold worse than the previous one.
Jackson Lee
>Mario Odyssey isnt Bloodborne tier Imagine being thi sdelusional >Smash Ultimate somehow isnt Bloodborne tier Still delusional Lets compared Ps4 titles (exclusives) with Switch exclusives:
Ps4 had: >Knack >Killzone 4 >Infamous Second Son >Driveclub >The Order: 1866 Bloodborne >Until Dawn >Tearaway Unfoldes
Switch has >1-2 Switch >Arms >Splatoon 2 >mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle >Super Mario Odyssey >Snipperclips Plus >Kirby Star Allies >Nintendo Labo >Mario Tennis Aces >Super Mario Party >Pokemon Lets Go >Smash Ultimate >Yoshis Crafted World >Super Mario Maker 2
And in the next 3 months are coming: >Fire Emblem: Three Houses >Asral Chain >Deamon x Machina
In the same timeframe Ps4 had... nothing
Charles Edwards
Yeah, Switch gets the definitive versions. Meanwhile everyone else gets PC ports
Dominic Williams
Bloodborne is way more niche than something like Odyssey and the same old tired soulsshit formula, just because it appeals to you doesn't make it universal.
David Jenkins
>Switch is already reaching a $200 Where?
Benjamin Long
>homo console Fuck, I'm laughing at my own typo.
Samuel Cruz
>comparing bing bing shit to Bloodborne Kys Kraut pedo shit
Henry Young
>Is the Switch really a success? Yes.
Kevin Perez
I know, I'm also excited that Nintendo will win the second consecutive gen
Joseph Mitchell
Of course, nothing is more casual than Mario 5 Hour Odyssey of impossible fail state.
Adrian Fisher
The Wii is not representative of the trend of all Nintendo systems. Why not take a look at the DS which had a much less exaggerated trend instead?
>Switch is already reaching a $200 price point though No, the Switch Lite is, a cheaper model with fewer features. The standard model priced at $300 doesn't suddenly stop existing, it would be like not counting any sale from the PS4 Pro.
Evan Hernandez
1-2 switch will outsell bloodborne lifetime, lol
Grayson Robinson
Switch Lite
Bentley Harris
Lite version, I'm pretty sure it's just designed for Japan and people who only want a couple games off the system
Logan Cox
Your greatest mistake is to continue to judge the Switch's performance from the dual viewpoint of it being a home console and it being a portable console. It's a platform that can do both.
The idea of a company keeping the dual platform method of having a home and handheld console is entirely unfeasible in this day and age. For proof, you need to look no further than Sony's luck with the Vita. Unlike the PSP which enjoyed moderate success during the last decade, the Vita spent its lifetime in ICU as Sony tried to advertise it as a companion device to the PlayStation 4. The reason why was obvious: Mobile gaming on smart devices had become an undeniable force to be reckoned with, and the average consumer didn't see the point in owning both a portable dedicated handheld console and a smart phone that played the hottest games that worked incredibly well for that platform.
The Switch has been able to maintain its popularity because it can do home console games well enough for your average video game player, it can provide the same experience while being played in handheld mode, and the fact that it will forever be the official exclusive home of Nintendo first party titles. The differences in performance between handheld and TV mode are so negligible that you'd have to be a raging insufferable autistic person to truly know and understand the difference.
Nintendo hit it out of the park with the Switch and guaranteed themselves roughly a full decade of majority market share because of it.
Jaxson Edwards
>he still pretends bloodborne is good Sony literally had to give it away for 20 dollars and then on ps+ because sales were so embarrassingly horrible.
COPE more.
Aiden Richardson
Do Nintenfats unironically brag about them unconditionally eating Nintendo's gimmick shit?
Oh, I thought he was talking about the original Switch. Because honestly using the Lite as an argument against Nintendo is silly.
Lincoln Cooper
>a full decade of majority market share In Japan? For sure. I'm not sure if the rest of the world is totally at that point yet though.
Kevin Morris
Sorry your crown jewel only sold 3m tops lifetime. Smash hit 3m in 3 hours
_______________________lol
Alexander Hill
>Mobile gaming on smart devices had become an undeniable force to be reckoned with, and the average consumer didn't see the point in owning both a portable dedicated handheld console and a smart phone that played the hottest games that worked incredibly well for that platform I've never understood this mentality. PSVita buyers aren't doing it to play candy crush. Mobile gamers and portable gamers aren't the same market. It's not like you can play Persona 4 or Uncharted on mobile.
Adrian Davis
You can run PS2-calibur games on a lot of smartphones nowadays provided they're decently optimized
Ian Butler
>laggy party game with unplayable netplay is suddenly not shit because SALES Even lower arguments than RDR2fags
Lucas Rivera
You "must have" game landed in the bargain bin the second it came out. Sure sounds like a great exclusive. And I love how SEETHING snoyfags like you dump hundreds of pictures you autistically save the second you are proven wrong. How pathetic.
Charles Gutierrez
The JoyCon drifting issue reminds me a lot of that famous crowbcat video that supposedly demonstrated how the Switch was terribly flawed on launch.
The issue is limited to so few users that it can hardly be seen as a widespread issue, and anyone trying to inflate the issue are just desperate to find anything disparaging about the Switch.
Jace Turner
>"Must play" exclusive doesn't sell Only snoyfags are THIS retarded
Colton Lee
>Ps4 had 1 good game >Switch has 5 good games >cannot cope so he resorts to ad hominem Lol pathetic
Brayden Hall
Nintencocksuckers pay full price for Wii U leftover party games and brag about it KEK
Joycon drift is a decently big issue judging from my experiences with my own switch and my friends' switches, it's not like RROD-tier or anything, but it's certainly not a non-issue
Robert Diaz
By what metric?
Ayden Gonzalez
>It's ok when Nintendo charges full price for 5 year old last gen games
Dominic Harris
sales, games, relevance i think the lite will improve its status
Jackson Moore
>he says when defending persona 5 R station
Robert Murphy
>g-guys it isn't REALLY successful right please comfort me I don't think I'll make it otherwise... o i am laffin
Isaiah Flores
This is top-tier mental illness. Thanks for the laugh kiddo.
And yet Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is one of the best selling and most recognizable game on the Switch, despite being sold three whole years earlier on the Wii U.
Bitch and moan all you wish, but it says something when Nintendo can take a three year old game, put it out at full MSRP, and it still remains a top game two years after its release.
remind me, how much did gravity rush cost when it first got ported?
Carson Ross
Bloodborne sold Mario + Rabbids and 1-2 Switch tier. It’s not a must play. 95% of ps4 owners don’t give a shit about the game. Stop deluding yourself. it’s not even a must play from game
Connor Nguyen
It sounds like Nintendo is trying to keep the Switch as a mainstay console for some time. I feel like internally it cuts corners to only have one console to worry about; no more dealing with two different systems, you only have to advertise the one, and so on. Also consider how many sales are coming from the fact that the Switch is mobile. You bring up a good point, but I wouldn't say the switch is doing poorly, it's just not god's gift to mankind like the numbers alone might imply.
>NSMBU ever being a must-own game >Captain Toad ever being a must-own game >BotW is a last-gen title when it released on the Wii U after the Switch came out That's not how that works. >Smash Ultimate is a port because I personally dislike it That's not how that works. >Super Mario Maker 2 is a port because it happens to fit my argument That's not how that works. >Conveniently ignores the Switch titles that aren't based on previous titles
You know xeno 2 sold over half of BB’s lifetime sales on a lower player base and in one year, right?
David Gomez
Been a while since I've been able to add to the cope chain.
>1985, Nintendo launches video game console, after the video game crash? Dead as fuck in this market, Nintendo's done >1986, wow, seriously? Famicom DISK System? Disks suck shit... It's really over... What happened to your main console support? >1989, wow, the "GAY BOY?" Dead... Underpowered, old hardware... It's literally over... They killed themselves. >1991, Nintendo launches Super childrens box, underpowered next to Genesis, dead as fuck, kids won't admit to owning one >1995, virtual reality is cool... Wait, RED? Dead. Nintendo is done, what were they thinking? >1996, cartridges... Not CDs? Dead as fuck. Goodbye Nintendo. >1999, The Nintendo 64 DD? Really? Disks again? It's over, goodbye Nintendo, you'll die in Japan then the West... >2001, holy fuck, small CDs? Dead as shit. It's really over... >2001, wow... Game Boy Advance? I have to buy a new portable power system after the last one failed miserably? It's fucking totally over... and it uses cartridges....... Not Game Boy Discs... Dead on Arrival. >2004, A dual... Screen? Touch screen? Holy shit. You taped two Game Boy Advances together? Dead... >2006, WII? Haha! That's like my wiiwii. Wait, motion controls? Like the power glove? Haha (actual comments) dead! >2011, 3D? Wow, seriously? What is this, VIRTUAL BOY 2? Haha! VB2, baby! Holy shit, it's so over. Goodbye Nintendo, your last market is handheld, and you killed it. >2011, wow, Wii U? You mean Wii Shit 2? Dead!
Anthony Garcia
>2016, wow, Pokemon GO? This is really it... Nintendo is purely mobile games now... Dead. >2016, Wow... Mario Run? More like Mario Flop?? It only made 30 million dollars from 90 million downloads? Dead... >2017, Switch? Wow... jesus fuck, brace yourselves, we're witnessing their last and final console release anons, it won't be pretty. >2018, 15M? Wow. Expect huge sales dropoffs. The Switch absolutely will be remembered as the Wii U 2, and probably Nintendo's last hardware release. >2018, To be honest, Nintendoomed people were proven right. Nintendo stopped making home cosoles after the WiiU. Being able to plug a portable into a TV doesn't make it a home console. >2018, Already hacked? lmao the console is fucking dead. Rip nintendo the best part is that the same moron fanboys are going to buy the Switch 2 and the exact same cycle will repeat >2019, Wow... Only 15m sold this year bringing total sales to 32 million? They forecasted 20 million sold... Fuck, it wasn't supposed to end like this >2019, Anyone has the feeling that you can't criticize this console in this board? Each time someone say something negative about it, nintendofans always jump and defend it with: OH LOOK AT THOSE SALES, IT'S THE FASTEST SELLING CONSOLE! >2019, Is the Switch really a success? Switch has sold 30-40m by now, However, Nintendo is basically combining their handheld and home consoles, but underperforming as a handheld let alone the idea it's combining the two. It's not such a pretty picture!
Tbqh, some of these are true, like disk system, virtual boy, 64 dd etc, but none of those are enought for company like nintendo going bankrupt, they are not blockbuster or something.
The point is these are pulled from actual forums/websites over the course of nearly 40 years and Nintendo is absolutely fine, making money, and selling consoles and games still.
Henry Jackson
>make a list of ps4 exclusives >only 8 titles about 8 years old
Wait, so by your logic, since Switch is both handheld and home console, it should sell at least 150 mil to be successful? What caused this autism, OP?
Bentley Cook
>Doesnt get the point comparing the exclusives released in the same timeframe Wojakposter is retarded as fuck who would have thought?
Blake Bailey
No one in their right mind would think that nintendo suddenly go bankrupt, sega and atari are still alive despite not making consoles, nintendo kinda stopped making home consoles though or kinda blended them together to make it appeal to both parties, it's too risky for them to release a home console without any portability functions. Wii u is a failure tho i i'm thinking of getting one cause i sold my wii and i really wanna hear that mii maker music on wii u, n64 lost third party support cause of the cartridge format and wasn't near as popular as ps1, gamecube is basically next to wii u in terms of popularity, great console but could have been last nintendo home console if nintendo didn't think of using same hardware and making a console out of remote controller for gamecube.
Austin Fisher
I don't think it'll absorb the handheld market the way Nintendo expects it too. They're still trickling out features that the 3DS and Wii U already had at this point in it's lifetime like Virtual Console too. Their devs are still fucking struggling with the transition to HD as well.
Lincoln Brown
Imagine being OP and having to wake up every day in a world where:
Nintendo are the most celebrated company in gaming history. Nintendo have sold more consoles than anyone else. Every single rival console has Nintendo hardware innovations visible in them. GOAT lists are completely saturated with Nintendo titles. The Switch is on course to become one of the most success consoles of all time and is already home to some of the most acclaimed games in history.
>Animal Crossing >handheld title Would you call Mario Tennis a handheld title too?
Grayson Jones
The Wii DS gen they sold like 200m combined. Wii U 3DS was probably about 70m combined. This gen is just Switch and it'll do better than the Wii U 3DS gen I guess? But with one system only.
Luke Baker
>The DS ended up selling over 100m DS sold like 150m.
Chase Lewis
MHGU is a must-own for anyone new to MH as well as veterans.
The Wii/DS gen was an absolute anomaly. It'd be like comparing the PS3/PS4 to the PS2.
Isaiah Wood
Wii + DS sold almost 260 million collectively Wii U + 3ds Sold about 90 million collectively
Daniel Reed
Wii+DS did 250 millions, every other gen was around 100 while Wii U+3DS was 85.
Ayden Williams
It's fair to say Wii/DS is an anomaly, however look at the growth
Wii U/3DS was a bust, Switch is going to do what... 100m? Only slightly up from Wii U/3DS, which was a huge flop. Should at least be 150m to be remotely okay growth.
Robert Diaz
Both 3DS and Vita are current gen. New 3ds came out in 2015.
Wyatt Thompson
add hollow knight to the bottom pic, since at least that brings something good to it
Why are they current gen? This year is the last year either will be getting games
Noah Thomas
>Mario Kart's sold more than the total Wii U hardware sales Canning the Wii U marketing department wasn't enough. Those fuckers need to be blacklisted from working in advertising ever again.
Jayden Ward
Same for the ps4, but nobody is calling that last gen
Adrian Sanders
>handhelds sell well >consoles don't >consoles are more expensive
>combine them and sell a lot at higher price It's really not too difficult to understand. The handheld market will buy the lite, while the console market will increase the base unit's sales numbers. In the end, units don't mean shit anyway, it's just used for online shit slinging between fanboys, and appealing to investors. All that really matters is software sales since they sell hardware at a loss. Making sure it's more accessible by combining the two markets just means a larger library.
The handheld market is slowly dying due to phones. Most people who owned a 3DS or Vita were 20+, might as well give the market a new home instead of dropping them altogether like Sony is.
Luke Powell
>Mario Kart's sold more than the total Wii U hardware sales Holy shit you're right >Canning the Wii U marketing department wasn't enough. Those fuckers need to be blacklisted from working in advertising ever again. But why, I thought these were some QUALITY commercials that totally worked :^) youtube.com/watch?v=SChWdprUnzw
Connor Nguyen
So? Do you think WiiU isn't current gen because it won't be getting games next year?
Joseph Jenkins
Anomalies are anomalies because they don't get counted as patterns. 100 million would be standard.
Wyatt Cruz
Because we're still in the 8th gen? Switch is an 8th gen console. A stopgap yes, but still 8th gen. Whenever the Nintendo Switchty Two comes out is when we'd have their 9th gen entry alongside the PS5 and the Scarlet
Oliver Miller
Considering that sony aren't making another handhelds, nintendo doesn't make another home console, handheld - they could be "this" gen for another 10 year with this kind of logic. We know that we are getting another ps, so ps4 is still this gen before ps5 gets released and switch is nintendo's current console, so it's either this gen while 3ds and wiiu are last gen, or 3ds and wii continue being "this" gen until next home console and handheld get released.
Kevin Perez
Damn, Sonybros are really going on a shitpost meltdown at the moment, aren't they? Is it because the PS4 is now dead and there's no more games coming so they have nothing else to do?
Yikes. Anyway, who else preordered Astral Chain? I'm so excited.
i'm waiting for the pc version thanks for beta testing
Jose Cox
by that logic the WII U was a 7th gen console.
Thomas Davis
>portbegging LOL, literally the incel stereotype in action.
Joshua Perry
"Astral Chain is an upcoming action video game developed by PlatinumGames and published by Nintendo"
Bet you're still waiting for Bayonetta 2
Kayden King
It's 50/50 getting a pc release.
Jayden Ramirez
That's not how gens work, you retarded newfag
Brody Parker
It's literally zero, Nintendo owns the IP.
Hudson Bailey
I can wait. After all, Fire Emblem is preloaded and it will keep me occupied. Remember, user: it's OK when other beg for ports. Only Nintendo fans are not allowed to.
Ryder Johnson
reminder that the switch is and was sold at a profit day one
Levi Rodriguez
I wonder how much he will cope seeing Bing Bing Mario at the Olympics
Christian Foster
I'm surprised people don't get this, Nintendo consoles never continue to sell, the Switch hit it's height last year, it will undersell it's last years sales by a significant margin, it has 1 big game for the end of the year, not even a small follow up title either, and it's mid year is entirely niche titles. >fire emblem >marvel ultimate alliance 3 >astral chain >daemon x machina Every one of these titles will struggle to hit 1 million units, 3 of them definitely won't, and at least 3 of them are in direct competition with eachother for audience. Anyone who thinks that early success for the Switch means anything in the long run is retarded at best, early success didn't bring in meaningful third party support, so there are no Monster Hunters, or Souls likes, or Ace Combats, or Yakuzas, or Earth Defence Forces, or Persona 5s, or Nier Automata's, or western titles to help push sales past Nintendo's own support which will be completely dead in a year or two. You are also ignoring the graph in the post I replied to, a graph which is the standard trend for Nintendo hardware.
Cameron Lewis
I'm going to screenshot this so I can show how retarded Yea Forums is. Thanks for the easy proof of COPING..
And by the way, what you said is completely retarded even if you take one graph as gospel. Which you shouldn't, but preventing people from reading far too much into a single graph is impossible.
Jack Peterson
You, 2 years from now: >I-I-I was being sarcastic, you stupid Nincels
Christian Peterson
they still have animal crossing and metroid in store, don't underestimate the power of fanboys i'm one of them
Jeremiah White
How do they work then, enlighten me >newfag Newfag to what? Playing games? Dumbass
Jack Lewis
>1695 in the space of a year >less than the year before The Switch is literally already on it's downward trend.
There is literally already a trend downwards for sales of the Switch though.
Colton Jackson
>fire emblem >Struggling to hit 1 milliion More proof that the armchair analysts of Yea Forums are completely retarded.
Isaac Ortiz
Kek
Thomas Cruz
meant for
Carter Collins
The system has been out for two years, and it sold more in the second. Nice "downward trend", you fucking retard.
Ayden Long
pre ordered the limited edition, along with DXM limited. So excited!
All multiplats? Also kh3 re2 suck ass so they don't count for bragging rights. The normalfags are only losing out on dmc since ace and sekiro is niche shit.
Xavier Martinez
nice brainlet post
Daniel Cooper
>There is literally already a trend downwards for sales of the Switch though.
Fucking KEK!
Thomas Hall
and even without that, the switch has outsold every 3ds equivalent game by this point and Fates sold 1,6 million. Assuming it would sell less than a million is completely retarded.
Nathan Gray
Objectively false.
Camden Garcia
It may be underperforming in terms of units sold, though each unit generates a higher profit due to the higher cost of the switch in comparison to the 3DS or Wii
Evan Sanders
>Bloodborne sold Mario + Rabbids and 1-2 Switch tier. >It’s not a must play. 95% of ps4 owners don’t give a shit about the game.
Got any sources for this? I find that VERY hard to believe given that it's almost always brought up whenever people talk about the PS4 and gets nothing but constant praise, even on normie sites.
Lincoln Hall
Animal Crossing will only go so far, it's going to be the first time since Launch that Nintendo had a big game in the first 6 months of a calendar year, but then what's coming in 2020, Bayonetta 3 for the big end of year title? Breath of the Wild 2 was just "now in developmented" so that's what 3-4 years away from a full reveal trailer just like the other 3 games that were revealed in the same fashion, Maybe Nintendlets will get lucky and see Pokemon Bow and Pokemon Arrow next year, but wouldn't it be logical to hope for some backlash to get the series fixed, I guess Pokemonlets really enjoy wallowing in feces.
>1665 is bigger than 1779 And what people need to realize is that the Switch in it's first year easily would have hit 20M if it had those units available, but in it's second year it struggled to even match it's first year, showing that demand itself had waned significantly.
Last FE struggled to achieve any sales, did it even meet 1 million, people have clearly been burnt out of that series.
Factually Accurate, but I also backed up the statement by quantifying another more valuable metric, which is demand, which has dropped significantly in the space of a year. Switch sales in 2019 will be lucky to reach 13 million. Entirely on the back of Nintendo mismanaging their own device. >2 games for the first 6 months >more than 1 game per month for the next 6 months Logically this just makes no sense, they must have expected the Switch to flop and started to scaling back their development studios in order to cut costs. Their loss, everyone else's gain.
Josiah Wilson
The only problem I have with Switch being Nintendo's only system on the market is that they'd constantly have to rely on it as a juggernaut. I know they're doing things right RIGHT NOW, shitty paid online aside, but if sales slow down or it somehow plummets, they're going to be fucked hard in the ass so hard they'll be forced to find new markets like they did during the 1960s. I can see it selling slightly better than the 3DS but it sure as fuck won't beat the chad DS or even the Wii. I don't think it'll reach Wii numbers.
That's really the only problem I have with them making a trans-console.
>Last FE struggled to achieve any sales, did it even meet 1 million, people have clearly been burnt out of that series. Really user? I'd think it's because it was on 3DS.
Interesting point of view.
Leo Jones
>Maybe Nintendlets Nice job for the blunderfag to show himself to be a consolewar cuck. Everything you said was completely retarded, congratulations.
Zachary Williams
>Factually Accurate No, it's objective false. Sales for fiscal year 2018-2019 were up compared to those of 2017-2018, even with the reduced forecast compared to initial expectations.
>demand, which has dropped significantly in the space of a year This is straight-up fanfiction not based in reality. Go take a look at any official weekly/monthly/quarterly sales data.
Jaxson Evans
Man they still really can’t wrap their head around this idea of releasing Zelda when a new system launches but also on its predecessor, huh? It even launched on switch first.
Cameron Murphy
>last fe struggled in sales that's in large part due to it being lower key remake of an old ass jap only NES game that lacked many of the features that made the other fe 3ds games popular among people
Brody Hall
>Last FE struggled to achieve any sales, did it even meet 1 million, people have clearly been burnt out of that series. Last proper FE was fates, which sold 1,6 million copies
Dominic Evans
>Switch gets FE, Astral Chain, Zelda remake, Pokemon and DQ11 enhanced port in the upcoming 2-3 months >"that is bad, too many games in such a short time, they won't sell" >PS4 gets one game, Death Stranding, in November (??) >"based Kojima, GOTY"
Brandon Thompson
>Switch gets FE, Astral Chain, Zelda remake, Pokemon and DQ11 enhanced port in the upcoming 2-3 months And >Daemon X Machina >Luigi's Mansion 3
Colton Foster
>"that is bad, too many games in such a short time, they won't sell" From a pure sales perspective, that can become a legitimate problem. People only have so much money to spend in a month, and people have the attention span of a toddler. So they buy at launch or forget something existed at all.
Dylan Scott
Don't forget Luigi's Mansion and Daemon X Machina. I honestly don't know how I'm going to afford all these Switch games coming out.
Austin Clark
>Really user? I'd think it's because it was on 3DS. Didn't impact the other FE titles, it undersold heavily because Fates and it's munny grubbing ruined any good will the series had built up.
Shit talking is not console wars.
>fiscal year to year isn't important when the Switch launched just a month beforehand, you need to count that month. >straight up fan fiction Except it isn't, demand is down, demand in 2017 was significant, the console objectively was hindered sales wise by a lack of unit production, and would have sold significantly more if it had had that, but it didn't, now demand for hardware is down significantly since 2017, with 2018 seeing a major drop, the Switch is set to follow it's current trend down, just like the Wii, just like the DS, just like every single Nintendo console before hand, Sony consoles sell up and then drop late in life, Nintendo consoles sell at their high point early and then die early. Largely because Nintendo don't know how to support their own hardware, and because third parties don't want to support it. It's not like other consoles like Playstation ones where third parties are excited about supporting it, where they pour their heart and soul into the games they make for it, supporting a Nintendo console is about looking to exploit it's NPC tier fanbase that only Red Cap Man good.
That's the best excuse, but I'm highly doubtful
Last Proper FE was Echoes, it doesn't matter if it was a remake, an overwhelming majority of FE players never played it before.
The only game Death Stranding isn't outselling is Pokemon.
Julian Brooks
>Shit talking is not console wars. Nice try hiding it after COPING hard about the switch being a massive success.
And literally nobody counts remakes as new proper games, how retarded are you?
Leo Sanders
>Except it isn't, demand is down, demand in 2017 was significant, the console objectively was hindered sales wise by a lack of unit production, and would have sold significantly more if it had had that, but it didn't, now demand for hardware is down significantly since 2017, with 2018 seeing a major drop Fanfiction.
Adrian Hall
>Didn't impact the other FE titles, it undersold heavily because Fates and it's munny grubbing ruined any good will the series had built up. I meant as in its twilight years with Switch as Nintendo's primary focus since 2017. 3DS by then has been seen as a low priority. Awakening and Fates were released during its prime.
Matthew Bell
>with 2018 seeing a major drop, the Switch is set to follow it's current trend down Nice fanfiction. Only your OC is missing from it. There is literally no massive drop, and pretending one year is a trend is so massively retarded that you should probably kill youself to spare your parents the embarassment of having a mentally disabled son.
Levi Hall
Forgot about them, sorry. Or they can wait for a sale. True, I doubt AC and FE will go on a sale soon, but around Easter 2020... We'll see.
>Switch literally most sold console worldwide in 6 consecutive months >Animal Crossing, DxM, Fire Emblem + new cheaper console on the horizon
>People really believe the Switch is in a downtrend by now Are people always retarded on this board?
Lucas Johnson
>Or they can wait for a sale. True, I doubt AC and FE will go on a sale soon, but around Easter 2020... We'll see. Christmas can still really help with that. A lot of people are going to get the most anticipated games at launch and then pick up at least one or two stragglers for the holidays.
Henry Allen
>being a massive success. At least you're accepting that any "success" the switch may have had is already waning. Historically we will look back on the Nintendo Switch ultimately as a failure, both critically and commerically.
Calling reality fan fiction is what an NPC would say, let me guess, You're some retarded trump supporter that goes around regurgitating "border wall good"?
See you at years end when Switch fails to meet a meager 15M, and the PS4 leaves it in the dust historically at least. Nintendo fanboys, they never learn.
Caleb Mitchell
In order to be successful you dont need exactly to be at the top.
Carter Morgan
>Major drop 2018
Pic like always related You have absolutly no clue what you are talking about
>See you at years end when Switch fails to meet a meager 15M, and the PS4 leaves it in the dust historically at least. Nice COPING, I bet you said the same shit about the vita.
Michael Turner
Vita sold poorly because Sony needed to support the PS4 to turn it into the Titan it became. Vita ended up with a better library and better third party support than the switch anyway.
Justin Green
>At least you're accepting that any "success" the switch may have had is already waning. Historically we will look back on the Nintendo Switch ultimately as a failure, both critically and commerically. Now this is the snoyfags COPE I was waiting for, great job! BoTW and Odyssey already cemented it as a critical darling, and even if it stopped selling almost any units it would still be a financial success. You're too late blunderfag, your retarded dreams are already dead.
LOL, imagine actually still pretending the Vita was worth anything in 2019. Peak snoyfag.
Chase Carter
When you remove the NinPC bonus those games are early to mid 80s at absolute best.
Aaron Scott
>Pokemon and AC not even out yet wew lad
Nathaniel Johnson
You forget Xenoblade 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, Fire Emblem Warriors and Mario & Rabbits for Switch and Marvel's Spiderman, God of War for PS4 and Gravity Rush 2.
At least if you are going to engage in console war faggotry do it well, nigger.
Chase Rivera
>If you remove the imaginary bonus i apply to cope with the situation HAHAHAHA
David Lee
>IT DOESN'T COUNT! The snoyfags favorite "argument", I guess if the switch sells well those sales also don't count, right?
Ian Robinson
So you're saying that no matter what, any game on nintendo can't score more than 80 because if it gets 100, without bonus it would be 80? How can you be this retarded?
Liam Martin
>Mario + Rabbids Woah come on now, that's a perfectly fun game let's not make things personal
Chase Cox
Considering historical trends with Nintendo consoles, I will have the last laugh.
>third party support is old ports This is your brain on nintendo.
Camden Martin
>historical trends >two systems LOL, really hope you never go into economics. Because that is so retarded it hurts. The only thing you are showing is your massive COPE about the switch being a massive success. I know it hurts you deeply to live in a world with the switch being great, but you will have to stop living in denial eventually.
Zachary Jones
>Y-You will see! The way the argument gradually eroded into this is absolutely hilarious.
Ethan Mitchell
He will move the goalposts infinitely into the future, it's hilarious.
Gabriel Thompson
P5 sold like 2.5m and BB around 3m while the average fifa sells around 30m and there's like 4 or 5 of them on ps4. Both titles are extremely niche.
Connor Nelson
Historical trends is a lifetime of systems. >massive success. You must never have seen a massive success if you think the Switch is even remotely comparable to one. switch being "great" to NinPCs matters not, there are other superior platforms out there and they get all the support >new monkey ball >also coming to ps4 but in 60fps instead of 10 >seiken densetsu 3 remake >also coming to ps4 but in 60fps instead of 10 What the fuck is even coming to the Switch in the future other than games that only nintendo fans want to play? because everything that holds actual value isn't on Switch >no dmc5 >no kh3 >no death strading >no edf5 >no ac7 >no elden ring >no ff7-r >no tales of arise >no senran kagura 7 >no ys IX
Oh you got Ni no Kuni, but it's not the HD re-release, it's literally a port of a PS3 game, but performing and looking worse, and there will be no sequel for switch
Nintendo fans are pathetic, imagine having a library so utterly constrained for content that you actually consider games like marvel ultimate alliance 3 to buy because there is literally no other options for you.
Ethan James
>Moving goalposts again AHAHAHAHAHA always the same when So(n)yggers get blown the fuck out >Unironicly listening Senran Kagura
You are aware that you are tie for worst person in this thread right?
Josiah Brooks
>Historical trends is a lifetime of systems. Of two, which never followed the same strategy as the switch. That is peak retardation, same as assuming it would follow them 1:1.
And nice trying to move the goalposts when raped to death by actual logic, it's nice to see snoyfags like you are still as retarded as ever.
Your entire post is just COPING with the fact the switch is a massive success that makes you cry yourself to sleep every night.
Thomas Cox
I already played those on PC though, except KH3 but I heard it was trash. You're not too poor to own a PC and a Switch are you?
Easton Cook
I was with you until you mentioned death stranding. That game looks like a literal abortion.
Zachary Price
>because everything that holds actual value isn't on Switch >proceeds to post games that have already been forgotten LOL, snoyfags really are grasping at straws now.
Cameron Parker
>implying BotW and Odyssey aren't must own exclusives
And before you try to say something about "but but it's not exclusive BotW is on Wii U" you can fuck off because I'm sure you don't own one of those and you can't go get one.
Brandon Harris
reply to this, retard come the fuck on, reply.
Samuel Richardson
>one contemporary port Wowee senpai, not that it matters, the port is extremely lazy, level and enemy geometry hasn't been altered to decrease performance drain, and textures haven't been remapped to fix them lazily scaling the entire mega texture by the same ratio You could be getting something like DQXIIS where they actively rebuilt assets in the game to match the Switch's hardware so that the game looks and runs good on the hardware, but instead you got a no effort port where the devs are completely unwilling to do any of the work needed to make it worthwhile.
Luke Ward
>contemporary port I like how you ooze butthurt
Jonathan Torres
Enjoy being treated like a fourth class customer.
Chase Hall
They aren't you overweight manchild fuck
Grayson Russell
>They aren't you overweight manchild fuck >this is your mind on so(n)y Literally retarded.
Levi Cooper
Why are Switchfags this weird cult about their bing bing fisher price tablet?
>why would this company want to increase their revenue stream
Daniel Rogers
Why are snoyfags still so mad about the switch being a success? Why are they SEETHING so much about it? It makes no rational sense at all, if they were well adjusted normal human beings they would just ignore it.
>wojak 97, snoycuck.
Samuel Lewis
Because their hardware sales are falling from generation to generation
Zachary Ortiz
Go on. I live how you've been defedning your jewish toy maker bing bing corporation all thread.
That's ridiculous, it's a hit, and the Wii wasn't a fluke. Poll people over 40 around the world, I bet the number of people who still have a Wii hooked up is massive. They're still bowling dude. The Wii sold so many copies that sometimes Goodwill wont even take them because there are so many functional Wii's in circulation.
ANYWAY, Nintendo isn't splitting the difference on their investments. Japan still cares about handhelds but they're moving onto phones more and more, which the Western world already has. Besides, the DS platform has been being iterated on for like fifteen years, that's a good run.
The base Switch will continue to sell and the Switch Lite will be a fucking smash, but nobody around here can see it because they aren't children and don't have children. The lite isn't for me, either, but it will fly off the shelves.
and if Nintendo had tried to compete with Sony and Microsoft (which they haven't since the Gamecube) they would have done Wii U-like numbers. For me the Switch is perfect. It's the best place to play indies and the only place to play nintendo games, obv, so it's an unmissable compliment to having a normal console or PC.
MORE, SNOYFAG! Show everybody how many autistic shitposting images you have pathetically saved!
Alexander Gray
>definitive edition >30 fps >Jewtendo tax >not even out Dumb nincel
Owen Adams
>revenue >only digital LOL, that is the most pathetic COPE I have ever seen.
Gavin King
>ahhhhhh you're not supposed to mock muh bing bing fisher price tablet ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Benjamin Richardson
damn sorry you guys have been cucked by ps+ for so long. "we spend da most money!!! i wish i could buy amazing spider-man 2 again"
Dylan Stewart
>>ahhhhhh you're not supposed to mock muh bing bing fisher price tablet ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Where are your autism pics? Post more of them!
Carson Cooper
Yeah I'm sure Nintendo loves earning billions less than just ONE Sony division.
Ayden Brown
Already succeeded in making you cry this thread. Gonna save the rest for next thread when your shitskin shill ass shows up again ;)
Adam Jenkins
To actually discuss the OP instead of metathread consolewaring like a faggot; the handheld gaming market is legitimately dying to phone games. People were saying that the 3ds would fail even back at its announcement, but it still managed to eke out a solid position in the market. However, there are still only so many members of the "people who play a game on their commute" audience, and things like gacha are legitimately eating into the market potential for handheld gaming. The reason switch will not be as successful as the 3DS is the same reason why the 3DS couldn't stand up to the original DS; the chance for nintendo to dominate the market alone without any serious competition is just no longer there.
Matthew Phillips
>earning Revenue isn't earnings, snoylet.
Jaxson Lee
oh sick so we're not even talking about products anymore we're just talking about financials. that's cool, that's something that I as a consumer definitely care about. dilate
Nicholas Foster
>cry LOL, snoyfags really think that. Post more pics, it's great to link to examples when people want to know why snoyfags are the most hated fanbase on Yea Forums.
Switch literally made you save and post dozens of pics, COPE harder.
Gabriel Lopez
You know, the Switch is great and all but I'm beginning to wonder if all of these fans that defend the company at every opportunity are an American majority? Here in Europe, while its popular as well, it doesn't have a manic legion praising it wherever they go irl or everywhere online. It's interesting too because I speak English, I'm subjected to dealing with its fan base but then once I revert to a new language barrier, the zeal kind of isnt as apparent.
SIE made almost a billion dollar more than ALL OF NINTENDO last fiscal year ;)
There's a reason Jewtendo is desperately trying to find a mobile hit.
Isaac Flores
Imagine a sonyfag from 2007, who used to make fun of the 360 for micro$ofts practice of making customers pay for online gaming, now bragging about paying the most for online gaming.
Juan Carter
yeah why would this model of the Switch aimed at children advertise with the worlds most popular video game, Fortnite, as opposed to something like Astral Chain? seems crazy.
Michael Edwards
>SIE made almost a billion dollar more than ALL OF NINTENDO last fiscal year ;) >revenue LOL, nice meme metric.
Jaxon Garcia
Americans never grow up from their childhood. Especially not the N64 rejects.
Kevin Perez
and you took them there, dutiful consumer! Keep buying those v-bucks, lootboxes, and whatever else. consume! consume! consume!
Tyler Evans
If the Switch people are serious with their P5 begging, they'll buy SMT5.
Henry King
Profit, nincel ;)
John Davis
don't fiorget paying 10 dollars to change your name, which Yea Forums unironically praised to high heavens for being so "cheap"
Henry Cox
>FORTNITE BAD CARDBOARDS GOOD dumb nincel
Julian Mitchell
I assume you just don't get it because youre euro. But all consolewar shit is just a cultural holdover from shit like the soda wars. We just fight over things that mean literallt nothing to us, because its fun to fight. I think you guys do this with football teams ( at least UK does for sure)
Jose Sanchez
>snoyfags literally praising Fortnite and lootboxes to protect their god snoy LOL, how pathetic.
Ryder Allen
I'd rather play a free game than spend $80 on cardboardshit, dumb Nintenfatlard
>he defends fortnite LOL, snoyfags really are cucks.
And nice for you to start posting your autism folder.
Jeremiah Adams
Maybe they should stop relying on gimmicks, stop casualizing and oversimplifying their games, stop fucking being faggots about their choice of media like it makes them special and fucking make a god damn home console worth peoples time.
The gamecube failed because of the mini disc and Nintendo's continued draconian treatment of 3rd parties, The WiiU failed because the motion control fad/gimmick fad died and it was underpowedered, and they thought they'd get another Wii, 3DS was a success not because of 3D but because its a Nintendo handheld, BUT ITS STILL failing to even live up to being even close to its predecessors numbers.
Nintendo keeps trying to have another god damn Wii and isn't realizing that "The Dream" was only a flash in the pan. The Wii isn't happening again and they have to fucking pander to the main market again before its too late.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT GIMMICK CONTROLS ANYMORE, the people, that do are a gigantic minority or only use them for comfortable menu shit.
No god damn motion controls, No god damn underpowered console, No VR, no augmented reality, No non standard storage media type, no special snowflake bullshit at all. Nintendo has to god damn play ball or just go 3rd party already.
t.old ass Nintendo fan since the 80's, before you modern drones who defend all their bad decisions flip out like on a basedny turd.
You're losing track here, nintenspic. Fortnite is the better game and also free compared to Pisstendo: Cardboards gimmicks shovelware collection.
Isaac Brooks
I'm disappointed to hear that your wife's son wasn't smart enough to assemble the labo kit you gifted him.
Easton Baker
>It's only with Nintendo it's acceptable to spend extra $80 just to have a real controller. >he says about the controller that needed to be replaced by a dualshock within one year. LOL, you didn't even see the irony.
Anthony Rivera
>Fortnite is the better game Stop. Please just stop.
Joseph Barnes
Ahahahaha
>Cardboards was too smart for you folks Nintentard is going desperate now
David Kelly
>why won't nintendo cater to ME by making a strict, high-powered home console to compete in a market they haven't been successful in since the Super Nintendo!!!!111 I'm so old and mad and gay!
Leo Mitchell
>Pisstendo: Cardboards gimmicks shovelware collection. This is prime SEETHING right here. Why would anybody who isn't a mentally ill tranny still SEETHE about something that he can simply ignore?
Blake Gray
Football/Soccer pride is more understandable since it takes the teams geographic living into account. It's a great opportunity to boast about your region and be snide about your lands history. Most of it is a dick waving contest with fans since the better their team, the better their region/country.
It's a bit nonsensical but more admirable than nincels on Yea Forums.
fortnite is also free on the switch and on phones. also dilate
Parker Davis
The PSX controller functioned just fine. How's that SoýCon drift and broken "Pro" dpad ;)
Jason Davis
Name 10 games able to run perfectly at 60 fps on Switch.
Josiah Rivera
>It's a bit nonsensical but more admirable than nincels on Yea Forums.
>he says in a snoyfag thread SEETHING about the switch You really didn't catch that?
Owen Rivera
Oh, it didnt have to be replaced. The controller with joysticks is just not compatable with a certain number of early ps1 games, they fail to register it. You need BOTH controllers in order to play the entire library.
Henry Harris
Nintenlards trying really hard to bury this complete embarrassment.
>"fine" Only if you are completely retarded, the dualshock was absolutely a necessary pruchase. But I guess it's okay if snoy does it!
Ryan Martin
you guys hate labo kits because they're for children and they make you realize that video games are children's toys. how cucked can you be when a fucking cardboard toy for children makes you seethe?
Jacob Hughes
>Nintenlards trying really hard to bury this complete embarrassment. >"bury" Not really, it was a toy for kids and sold prefectly fine. But why are you still so SEETHING about it? It must have really upset you deeply to still cry everyday about it.
Blake Peterson
labo is for the children you will never have.
Jaxson Edwards
>It's a great opportunity to boast about your region and be snide about your lands history. Most of it is a dick waving contest with fans since the better their team, the better their region/country. See what I meam, shit that means literally nothing. At least consolefags are, loosely, arguing about the quality of their personal childhood.
Hudson Gutierrez
>dude cardboards games like EU4 are totally same age demographic This is the denial phase of the Nintenfattie, not wanting to admit Jewtendo is for toddlers
Robert Jackson
>This is the denial phase of the Nintenfattie, not wanting to admit Jewtendo is for toddlers This is the COPE I expected from a snoyfag. Good job!
Lucas Parker
Nintendo also shits out handhelds meanwhile Sony just makes consoles. Compare consoles with consoles and Sony sells like double the amount of units.
Chase Garcia
>it's not ok to play a free game >It's fine to spend $80 on Nintendo's gimmicky glorified trash gimmicks
all video games are for children, user, but please keep defending your console for grown-ups! you big 110 lb manly man. this is the power of snoy.
Luis Bailey
>How did Cardboards VR work out for you? Is that what this is? Just an attempt to bury the memory of PSVR by projecting onto others?
You dont actually own a PSVR, do you?
Levi Hughes
>it's not ok to play a free game No, it isn't okay to play fortnite. COPE harder, snoycuck.
Levi Roberts
Why do Nintenfatlards play games if they also think all games are bing bing toddler shit?
Carson Martin
it's just gay that you would post a graph of digital sales, show that you're getting fucked in the ass about a billion times harder than Nintendo, and present your fully-dilated anus while waving a victory flag over it
Robert Rodriguez
Has nothing to do with catering to me you deflecting fanboy, has everything to do with them realizing their actual market position compared to where they think they are. They are deluded and think another Wii will just happen if they hit the right gimmick niche, and aren't realizing that the concept of sellin weak hardware on a motion control gimmick just isn't feasible anymore.
Just because you or a scornful and ultra defensive minority like them playing the special snowflake gimmick fad that died out years ago, doesn't mean its good for them. They need to play to industry standards not only for regrowth of brand (yes regrowth, because Nintendo's not as relevant as they used to be) but also for market position.
2007-2010 or so the platforms of that generation all sold over 80 million units, showing that the industry has a potential customer base of hundreds of millions. Right now, the industry has less than half of that potential market. Where did all those people go? It wasn't just the fad of the Wii being popular.
They're simply not interested or they've gone off to Sony, Nintendo is losing 10's of millions of potential customers because they keep pandering to people like YOU. THAT is the actual truth, you gimmick faggots are losing them money. YOU are the cancer killing Ninty.
Because I've achieved a level of success and satisfaction in my adult life that sometimes I can dip into the video games of my kids. life is fulfilling! but not when you're a snoyfag.
Leo Ward
What are you even talking about you mentally broke Nintenlardass? I'm just here to piss on you and your bing bing wahoo factory.
Gabriel Bennett
>Nintendo also shits out handhelds meanwhile Sony just makes consoles Remember the vita? It flopped.
Jordan Williams
Look, the nincel is doing it. He's defending Cardboards VR kek
I too only play adult games for adult gamers like fifa, gta and fortnite
Brayden Morgan
Remember the Wii U?
Henry Rodriguez
Dont remind them about the ps handhelds and their ten 'console revisions'. It makes them more upset.
Sebastian Turner
nice autism folder you got there, snoycuck.
James Davis
>dmc >normalfags >sekiro >niche Nigger fromsoft is far from niche by now, normalfags will eat any DARK SOULS-HARD game they put out because they think they're HARDCORE GAMERS
Logan Rogers
>Because I've achieved a level of success and satisfaction in my adult life AHAHAHAHAHA
>underpowered >gimmick >supposedly a handheld but too large and performs better docked >dock scratches screen >cheap, flimsy joycons >library consisting of rehashes, shovelware, the worst versions of multiplats and kiddie games. >insufferable, delusional community >manchildren love it >system of choice for trannies and the morbidly obese. >smash tournaments known for being comprised of people with no concept of personal hygiene >an embarrassment to be see playing in public >horrible online, overpriced. >console is overpriced, very low value in general >often referred to as several derogatory names, some examples include “cucktendo shitch” or just “shitch”, “Fischer price tablet” or more rarely the “NINtENDO SWItCH” (the lowercase t’s representing the low testosterone of the typical Nintendo console owner) I could go on but I think we’ve all seen enough to all agree that owning a Nintendo Switch is undesirable.
Robert Carter
All VR is shit, you dont need to qualify it as cardboard unless you are defending something
Zachary Garcia
Which has nothing to do with his original point, can you read?
Robert Flores
All better than &80 cardboards which is literally recycled trash.
Nathaniel Peterson
RELEASE
SOME
FUCKING
GAMES
Michael Hill
Nintendo's " VR" is by far the worst you delusional nincel
Caleb Brown
Either way, I couldn't give less of a shit about 4 versions of a 10yo handheld, the Wii U and the Switch needing to combine to even come close to the Ps4 sales.
Gavin Barnes
>Compare consoles with consoles and Sony sells like double the amount of units.
>just ignore the various failures, and our successes are amazing! >also we sell at a loss
John Myers
The idea that you're smart enough to know the Wii was lightning in a bottle and that Nintendo doesn't know that is rich. They're not going to cater to you, there's no money in that. What would the consumer gain by Nintendo trying to compete in the Sony/Micro/PC space? That market can barely support two major consoles, both of them are basically the same. I'm not bought into game streaming yet, but if that takes off, the consoles are done. The Switch has a distinct market value in what it presents.
You are not first on Nintendo's list, it's children and very young adults who predominantly drive this market to its greatest peaks. Kids nowadays who are growing up slobbering on ipads will not gravitate to the PS4 or the Xbox, it will be too unrelatable to them. they'll end up being PC kids OR they'll gravitate towards the Switch. If Nintendo had made a set-top box, that would reveal their ignorance regarding the Wii. So, they created a console that straddles the portable/home space, because the handheld market is where they've held continued success since the GameBoy.
Ayden Martinez
It's shrinking, not dying. People still want and will want dedicated portable gaming experiences for the forseeable future
The Switch Lite is going to sell extremely well and Nintendo knows it
Switch will outsell the ps4 in a few years It also has the best library of any console. Switch is a massive succes.
Switch exclusives: >Mario Odyssey >Smash Ultimate >The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sequel >Splatoon 2 >Xenoblade Chronicles 2 >Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna the Golden Country >Snipperclips Plus >Fast RMX >Arms >Mario+Rabbids Kingdom Battle >Gal Metal >Kirby Star Allies >Mario Tennis Aces >TWEWY ~Final Remix~ >Super Mario Party >Pokémon Let's Go >Dragon: Marked For Death >Yoshi's Crafted World >Pokémon Sword & Shield >Animal Crossing: New Horizons >Fire Emblem Three Houses >Luigi's Mansion 3 >Town >Daemon X Machina >Yokai Watch 4 >Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 >Super Mario Maker 2 >The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening >Astral Chain >Box Boy! + Boy Girl! >Tetris 99 >Rune Factory 5 >Cadence of Hyrule >Mario & Sonic at the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games >Bayonetta 3 >Metroid Prime 4 >Shin Megami Tensei V >Steamworld Quest >Blaster Master Zero 2 >Mary Skelter 2 >Omega Labyrinth Life >No More Heroes 3 >Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Mega39’s
Nintendo exclusive multiplats/ports: >The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild >Mario Kart 8 Deluxe >Pokken Tournament DX >Fire Emblem Warriors >Bayonetta 2 >Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze >Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition >Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker >Code of Princess EX >Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate >New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe >Rune Factory 4 Special And more to be announced
Oliver Peterson
Have you compared them? Do you own multiple VR headsets that you use enough to create a comparison? Ehoch one would you say is the best VR headset? Most value? What would you recommend?
Jason Richardson
Those figures include both the 3DS and the PSVita.
Samuel Bennett
imagine being so mad you have a folder of images like this. at least those faggots are happy about something. somebody is taking a picture of them. when's the last time someone took a photo of you?
Asher Hall
>The Switch Lite is going to sell extremely well and Nintendo knows it Honestly I think its still too big. Unless there is somehow a pocket version of the switch it just wont hit the commuter audience the way the GBA and DS did
Easton Ward
>>Mario & Sonic at the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games >>Bayonetta 3 >>Metroid Prime 4 >>Shin Megami Tensei V >>Steamworld Quest >>Blaster Master Zero 2 >>Mary Skelter 2 >>Omega Labyrinth Life AHAHAHA What the fuck is wrong with nintenlards?
John Morales
>Compare 4 10yo handhelds, the Wii U and the Switch with Ps4 and Vita >Nintendo barely sells more >Despite it literally being 7vs3 Wanna compare actual consoles to consoles? Like Switch vs Ps4?
>he thinks Nintensoys are happy Those soýlent grins are more forced than your mother's orgasms.
Juan Barnes
they're seething because nincels are quite literally grown children that can't accept that their childhood is gone and would rather play stupid pathetic games on a system that appeals to those needs, the kind where failing or a struggle is never allowed. I still like Nintendo a lot but the more they appeal to this kind of demographic, the more kids will start turning away from the company because these idiots tarnish their image.
You can already bring your Switch on the bus. The point of the lite isn't so much the reduced size but the lower price point. it's a little more candy-colored too. they're aiming that thing at children.
Ryder Perez
right, the snoy playstation, the gaming system for grown-ups. now download fortnite
Cooper Rivera
here's my new big idea: the reason you guys get so assblasted about nintendo is because you're insecure about the idea that games are primarily for people under 20. it's ok to like video games faggot.
Revenue doesn't include costs, and most of Sony's gaming divisions run at a loss.
Nicholas Myers
>snoycuck is too jealous for the amazing Switch library that he can't make a good argument Lol cope
Camden Turner
SPECIAL BOY
Carson Cook
contrary to what you may think, snoy fans don't buy every "grown up" game to prove that theyre older. those type of games are reserved for the kind of people that can't see the hills in front of them, like nincels. I play multiple consoles and a variety of games, for various demographs. What the likes of people here need to realise is that a game that avoids appealing to such people is a breath of fresh air.
Christian Jenkins
Those games are either not even out for years more, abandonware or shovelware kiddy shit.
Owen Harris
I'm not even sure what the argument is here. I'm not sure that anybody in the world cares about the fidelity of fortnite. it is for babies.
Juan James
>7v3 >it's just the Switch and the 3DS vs the PS4 and the Vita Is this your brain on Sony? 1+1=7! But 1+1=3 for me!
Look up the profit posted by SIE and Nintendo last FY and then come back here ;)
Carter Foster
damn dude I bet you feel special for liking bloodborne. truly a video game for distinguished tastes.
Parker Perez
Quite literally. the irony is that my younger cousins are saying that it's kind of dying out now and "uncool" to play in their social circles. guess the hype around it is beginning to die out now.
Ian Baker
SIE is the gacha division, not gaming
Jason Bailey
You'd be legit retarded to argue that the Switch isn't the perfect console to compliment your gaming PC.
regardless of how that pans out, I'm a consumer, and I don't care. show me some more graphs though, please. show me how hard snoy has fucked your butt.
and in any case, a company that needs to suck a billion dollars out of my ass to run at a profit doesn't seem healthy to me.
Oliver Morgan
Based absolute retard. It's the 4 verions of 3DS, the Wii U and Switch vs 2 Ps4 and Vita. Keep coping all you want, but the Ps4 shits on everything Nintendo created in this generation.
Joseph Martinez
>fortnite is better on my console! >fortnite...uh....isn't important!
the blood vessels in your brain have overflowed with onions
Adrian Foster
OP here. Some people made a good point about Nintendo selling each console for a profit... however literally every Nintendo system AFAIK is the same. My real question here is of growth.
Nintendo can't support themselves forever without growth, they simply can't. They'd have to downsize and cut projects. This was arguably already the case in the GCN days, and even Wii had a lot of game droughts despite all their profits. As good as the Switch is doing it needs to do as good if not better than the Wii U + 3DS given it's a hybrid console.
I'm glad some people got the nuance of this argument, as I like the Switch, I'm frankly concerned Nintendo is on the down trend. The Nintendo Switch Online isn't encouraging either, as it implies Nintendo needs that money or at best is copying Sony's profitable PSN model.
>i-it doesn't count now Are we going back to the Nintenfatty bragging about overpriced Jewtendo games?
Parker Morris
Dragon Quest Builders 2 is superior on Ps4, the other games there are trash. Good job.
Nicholas Peterson
You fucking know it bro
...actually, I don't even care for bloodbourne that much now that i think about it. guess it's because there's more interesting things to ponder about out in the world.
Gavin Lee
If we're comparing arbitrary profit numbers, compare Nintendo 2008 to present vs SIE 2008 to present. SIE has been in the red for quite some time. They finally broke even from the losses that started in 2008 last year.
Samuel Wright
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>there are 4 versions of the 3ds and 2 versions of the ps4
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Adam Cruz
Nintendo was swimming in gold during Wii/NDS era and still let Wii die prematurely instead of investing in software. Yet Sony taking billion dollar losses on PS3 still invested in PS3 games for near a decade.
Jose Thomas
It's a shame about the lack of games. The worthwhile exclusives on the PS4 are... what? Bloodborne and P5?
Jason White
I see where you're coming from, but I think the Switch is a success beyond just the money they're making from it now The idea is whether or not the Switch is making more money than handhelds or consoles would have made independently. I think the big thing the Switch addresses is the damage that smart phone games have done to the handheld market. The DS sold 100m, but that's because it was the first handheld with a touch-screen in a pre-iPhone market. It had a distinct advantage over all future handhelds in that it came out before you had major competition from a device that nearly everyone in the population carries anyways. The result of this is that future handhelds will be constantly at a disadvantage when fighting on price with phones. I think another part of this is the Switch hasn't been marketed as a handheld device specifically, which I think the Switch Lite will address. This is also reflected in the price point which I think will actually go a long way since it's not that far from the 3DS' post-price-drop price of $170US. tl;dr: switch is a survival move for nintendo to avoid phone massacre, also predict switch lite will sell handheld numbers
Brayden Young
I never mentioned anything about fortnite being better on certain consoles..? just said the fad is beginning to fizzle out is all.
Blake Campbell
>Either way, I couldn't give less of a shit about 4 versions of a 10yo handheld, the Wii U and the Switch needing to combine to even come close to the Ps4 sales. This is literally peak COPE, holy shit. Just ignore everything the other guy said ans vomit your snoyfag retardation out.
Justin Carter
What PS3 games did Sony invest? I don't remember a lot of great late PS3 games published by Sony.
Benjamin Campbell
>As good as the Switch is doing it needs to do as good if not better than the Wii U + 3DS given it's a hybrid console It's doing fine compared to the 3DS and BTFO of the Wii U though
This sounds like really weird justifications to somehow say the Switch is failing despite the fact nearly everyone considers otherwise
Evan James
These are people who think tlou qualifies as a game, user
Chase Parker
COPE. Keep comparing multiple consoles to the Ps4 if that makes you better, but everyone knows that the Ps4 is the best console of the generation.
My concern is simply Nintendo trying to grow this model, and I suppose the Lite and gearing it both towards casuals and hardcore could work. We'll have to see. I'm just not convinced the Lite can be a gangbusters success, but I could be wrong. It really ought to be and in my opinion deserves to be because the Switch is a neat little system, and I'm a big Nintendofag.
It's a shrewd move when thinking strategy, smarter than anything they did since the Wii. The Lite is a big piece of the puzzle if only to convince investors they can attempt to recapture some of the casual market, while walking the tightrope of appealing to their hardcore fanbase. They're doing a better job at that. In the Wii U days it was a disaster with forcing a $100 peripheral into every system and the 3DS botched launch.
Caleb Mitchell
>never thinks about switch He says after making a massive autism folder dedicated to it and post hundreds of threads and replies about it. Literally obsessed, LOL.
Joshua Lopez
yeah, I think that's my issue with the Switch and Nintendo in general. While the games so far are good, the amount of money in their pockets means they could revitalise a range of dormant IP's, yet, they do nothing with them. I think that's what frustrates me more about them more than anything. At least on Xbox,Ps4 and Pc, you're guaranteed a variety of games to play that aren't always playing safe to shareholders. Nintendo strikes me as the complete opposite, and I think that's why I find their loyal fans so infuriating to talk to.
Camden Clark
The comparison you're pushing for is 6 years of sale vs 2 and a half. The other comparison is 6 years vs 6 years. Nice try though.
Landon Diaz
TLOU MP is better than any Nintendo MP game. Including that pedophile paintball shooter.
Robert Brooks
It's just that they need growth to make up for costs, basic business logic. They can't coast by like Sony who sell at a loss and are run by a megacorporation, this is why every Nintendo console is sold at a profit. So they're automatically in a more perilous position. I'm not an idiot saying they're going out of business or leaving the hardware market, just that they're on the downturn.
tl;dr again, Switch should be > Wii U + 3DS at minimum, if far stronger sales wise. There is no reason it SHOULDN'T blow that shitty gen out of the water. It's bad if it doesn't.
Matthew Morales
Switch got outsold by the Ps4 in 2018 >3Ds >6 years >Also ignoring how you're literally comparing multiple consoles to the Ps4
Anthony Bennett
>TLOU MP is better than any Nintendo MP game. Including that pedophile paintball shooter. This is peak COPE by snoyfags, really funny. You're probably shill the Vita here next.
Daniel Perez
I fucking hate TLOU and sadly, I would have to agree. Splatoon is a neat idea but it doesn't really feel...idk.."cool" to play? Don't know what it is. Might be it's presentation..
Mason Hughes
>they're selling at a profit >they're always in the green >this is bad, unlike Sony who usually ends up in the red
Juan Perez
Kek
Benjamin Powell
>Switch got outsold by the Ps4 in 2018 That has nothing to do with anything I said. Are you literally a drone who can only spoout snoyshit? Did buying a PS4 literally rot your brain?
Oliver Harris
I don't like this argument because Sony and MS mishandle IPs far more than Nintendo does. Look at how few shits Sony gave about Crash or Spyro, not making an attempt to buy them during the PS2 days. They have like 5 exclusive IPs atm that matter. Nintendo's juggling about 20.
I know it sucks Nintendo gives zero shits about F-Zero, Wario Land, Advance Wars, etc etc, but they're not cancerous like how MS treats Rare's IP or Sony being a movie game company.
Did the success of the Ps4 rot your brain? It's the best console of the generation, get over it.
Ryan Cook
What exactly makes them on the downturn? They're making a lot of buck back from their drones and the subscription services, not to mention the successful marketing and 're using old assets to make most of their current games. Shouldn't they be earning more money instead?
Wyatt Nguyen
Sony can afford to be in the red. The games division is just that, a division of a massive corporation. Nintendo doesn't have anyone to fall back on and would go bankrupt if they made the mistakes Sony made in the PS3 era.
Jackson Russell
No. The WiiU and Switch are the same generation.
Connor Richardson
>we all know the Wii was a fluke. seethe more and stick this up your ass snoyboi
>literally a NPC reply Holy shit, snoyfags really are retarded. Maybe try answering the question next time, why are you so obsessed with the switch you save hundreds of pics in your autism folder?
Matthew Sullivan
Overall sales when you add together Wii U + 3DS versus Switch. It should blow that number out of the water eventually, and it's bad if it's not given Nintendo's situation >Wii U >sold at profit from day one >makes Nintendo look bad >cuts into potential success after Wii
>PS3 >sold at massive loss despite $599 >puts Sony in the red for years >cuts into Sony's profits for a decade >flops and takes them 10 years to regain a lead >makes Sony look retarded
PS3 was a much much worse failure than the Wii U. Just look at the idiotic Cell architecture garbage and all the money wasted on R&D Sony did for the PS3, and it got much worse bad press than the Wii U.
Camden Davis
>this is what snoyfags think is clever LOL, how pathetic. Better go dilate now, your wife's mandatory nigger bull is coming home soon. For the gayers!
I would have to agree on this as well, but one thing I like about the likes of Spyro and Crash is that the original dev teams of the likes of these have mentioned several times is that they are cautious about returning to these games in case their original spirit gets tarnished, as well as that they would prefer to try new things as well. If they do return to them, they put a lot of effort trying to to piece it back together, going so far as reaching out to old team members for games like Medievil or die hard fans for Resident Evil. Not to mention that if you wanted to play them, you can always go onto their networks and buy them to play across multiple systems, provided you have the right console, and you don't necessarily have to buy them again either, compared to Nintendo who charge 10euros or so for Mario Bros NES. It's a greedy tactic on their part.
Jason Peterson
Did you get over Ps4 being the best console of the generation yet?
Logan Perez
>one article with no cited source for Nintendo sales figures, only shows Sony's total shipped consoles >a shitton of articles backed by the NPD Nintendo had a better 2018.
>This gets deleted because sony edit >Straight out console warring is ok because it's against Sony NintendoGAF
Bentley Reed
I remember reading a while back that the Move controllers design was apparently in production long before the Wii remote. I think as far back as the early 2000s. Can't find the link talking about it tho but I distinctively remember something about it.
Ian Torres
That's probably true in some way. I'm sure the success of the Wii heavily influenced the final product and the decision to bring it to market at all. I had an EyeToy on the PS2, I thought that was so cool.
>NintendoGAF >he literally says in a thread made to shit on the switch LOL, nice victim complex. Only snoyfags shit up Yea Forums and complain if anything they do gets deleted.
Nathan Cooper
No, it's literally trash. Why are you so obsessed with the switch you saved hundreds of pics about it?
Dominic Edwards
Not wrong, but none of that is on account of Sony. They're not even exclusive anymore, and if you want to talk about keeping the IPs alive both Spyro and Crash were in cuck prison with no games or terrible games for decades. Everything after PS1 for both is pretty much garbage. Sony made no effort to keep either exclusive. If this was Nintendo I bet they'd have bought up the IPs or cut some deal, while not letting them languish in hell when they're so popular.
Sony is just bad and doesn't give a shit about "childish" IPs in my opinion. MS is no better with how they've treated the Rare IPs, like the new Battle Toads or Nuts & Bolts. Nintendo is the only hardware company who give any shits about their old IPs. I'm not even getting into how Sony IMO has ruined a lot of their old IPs as that's more subjective.
Liam Foster
Objective criticism like in the OP isn't console warring you absolute retard. Fuck off back to R*ddit if you can't handle anything negative. 90 million sales and counting, keep seething.
Angel Ramirez
Interesting trivia. I never thought that about Nintendo. Is that why theyre so hesitant to try new things in recent years with their games devision and their recent diversity hires? Starting to make more sense now.. How come theyre so keen on spending so much on marketing tho?
John Adams
I'd be interested to see how much they actually spend on marketing. I imagine you get more for your buck now, and inflation taken into account, is no more than previous gens. They're just better at it.
But yes there's a good reason Nintendo is so cautious. They're not playing with daddy's money.
Jack Kelly
>no citation on those sales figures again >numbers that conflict with other sources >linking an article that shows just how btfo Sony was in Q4 Friendly reminder >The NPD group reports that December sales for the Switch were the highest for any console since the Nintendo Wii in December 2009.
Justin Moore
They're just playing with the mountain of cash they've accrued throughout the years.
Jace Ward
>Objective criticism like in the OP isn't console warring you absolute retard. Fuck off back to R*ddit if you can't handle anything negative. The post you complained was shitposting, you little snoycuck. Nice victim complex, you retard.
Aaron Mitchell
Crash and Spyro languishing was something that consumers decided, they had no place in the edgy, edgy, edgy landscape of the mid-2000s. Nintendo, for better or for worse, has always had a great deal of brand identity that Sony and Microsoft don't have and didn't have. They also have an in-house development cycle where they workshop stuff FOREVER before deciding on a direction to go in, and are more-than-willing to delay games. I would call it a Japanese trait, but Sony is japanese too. I'd like to know how much sway SCEA has, I know that nips still run the show at Nintendo.
Jack Gomez
You're not wrong but at least that's money they earned, not money handed to them from on high. As I said earlier if they fucked up as bad as the PS3 they'd be out of business.
Brayden Cruz
>Everything negative is shitposting Grow thicker skin, söyboy.
Andrew Butler
I'd say Nintendo tries to be thoughtful about things but cautious is...not it. Nintendo hasn't made an obvious decision since before the DS. They have made risky decisions since the Nintendo 64. They also take a really long time to do anything, stuff gets retooled in R&D forever at Nintendo.
Carter Rodriguez
>90 million sales and counting, keep seething. Still doesn't explain why you are so obsessed with the switch to save hundreds of autism images. COPE harder, snoyfag.
Wyatt King
Very true about the more kids friendly IPs. I think Sony is making a big mistake on this part, since in Europe those kinds of games were a much bigger deal than the likes of Nintendo. Pokemon was still a pretty big deal out here but fucking everyone loved all the unusual IPs going around the place in the PS1. It's jarring to see nostalgia pandering mercy like Mario and such when social circles at the time didnt even really know about him that much until the 2000s. Not everyone knew a lot about Zelda either which Sony is too stupid to realise. I think because of profits from the likes of America they think it's the same out here, even though economics and society works a lot differently in the Euro nations.
Jaxon Garcia
I don't know about that. In the mid-2000s you still had successful Nintendo IPs that were pretty kiddy friendly. Hell, you had NSMB as a massive success, Zelda was going through its cel shaded kiddy phase, Animal Crossing was becoming a big deal...
I think it's more Sony is too incompetent or unwilling to work with those sorts of IPs. On the other hand, obviously Nintendo doesn't do well with edgy and/or mature IPs, but they are still juggling far, far more IPs in their portfolio than Sony or MS anyway. I can easily imagine Crash or Spyro being a Nintendo property and doing something worthwhile in those twilight years.
Lincoln Gray
>goldface and wojaks aren't shitposting Unironically the most snoyfag reply i have ever seen. Literally "IT'S OKAY IF ONIONS DOES IT!"-the post.
Grayson Butler
I think a lot of what determines 'gangbusters' success are two things: price point (which acts as a barrier of entry or not) and software line-up (which acts as a pull for owning a system at all). I think that the way they've set up the Switch Lite for success could be huge, it's mainly a question of whether the $200 price point will be low enough to attract people who may be lukewarm on handheld gaming in general. The DS was impressive because it was stupidly price competitive even for the time. It didn't even come with any real system sellers beyond Metroid Prime Hunters, I remember. Hence, with the Switch Lite, what I see is that the cost is going to be the determining factor because it already has the backing of the existing Switch library behind it. In short, if you lower the barrier of entry for playing the Switch library to $200, will that be enough to attract handheld numbers. I think it will, given how good of the word of mouth and optics on the Switch have been, I think a lot of latent desire to own one has built up over the past two years.
Ethan Sanders
How does it feel to wake up in a world where the Ps4 is the best console of the generation every single day? You just can't get over it, you keep obsessing over the Ps4.
Their ideas are bold, but financially cautious. The Wii U flopped but it still sold at a profit. The PS3 sold at 5 fucking 99 US dollars and was sold at a loss.
I seriously hate what Sony has become as the "serious mature movie game" company. I once loved their consoles for their variety of games, now it's all so samey. Not much different for MS, and when I can just get the games on PC, yeah. That's just my opinion. I do think Sony or MS could've tried to fill that market, but they just gave up at some point and ceded that market to Nintendo.
Zachary Bennett
They're setting up for an even better Q4 this year. Switch Lite launches mid September. Pokemon Sword/Shield lanches mid-November.
Dominic Garcia
>it's another snoyniggers defending their transnational corporation against another transnational corporation thread Unironically have sex
Chase Taylor
the post you complained about being deleted did though. And the OP wasn't deleted, you fucking mongoloid.
Camden Collins
In the end PS3 was way better than Wii U though and Sony supporting it through thick and thin is also why PS4 sold so well.
Robert Foster
>still evading the question LOL, snoyfags are SEETHING hard.
Xavier Myers
>Still can't get over the fact that the Ps4 is the best console of the generation
Kevin Williams
Nintendo is well aware how they're losing console shares to Sony and handheld to mobile. Switch was the panic button solution. There's a reason why they're so eager for a mobile hit again. They know it's only a matter of time before they lose the hardware grip altogether. Switch had the advantage of novelty. Next Switch won't have that. It will be what 3DS was to NDS.
Of course, but if you look at how much it cut Sony, PS3 was overall a disaster for many reasons, 90% of them at launch. As a consumer I'd take the PS3 any day.
Hudson Hernandez
I highly doubt that. GTA and shooters were popular, sure, but there was still a market for younger generations that were still growing up with these childhood icons. I distinctively remember where the fuck did all of these IPs suddenly disappear to and having to migrate to the likes of Sonic (before 06) and Nintendo to fill in the holes. I think the FPS craze was a ploy to hire young adults in the time to fight in the wake of 911 honestly. Young kids wouldnt have any idea what was really happening and still kept living whereas people making all these games got hit with the outcry, and saw it as an opportunity to make more buck.
Jackson Butler
>However, Nintendo is basically combining their handheld and home consoles for the first time since before the GameBoy. The handheld option on the Switch is just a poorly done gimmick though. Neither the games are optimized for handheld mode nor is there a good solution for battery and it's way too bulky for a handheld.
Dock mode Zelda should stay how it is while handheld mode should downscale to pic related.
>It will be what 3DS was to NDS. So, a massive success?
Parker Edwards
>he still posts literal fake news How low have you fallen?
John Reyes
Like I said, it's not as black and white as "look at this billion loss". Sony could've cut their losses with PS3 and instead made a successor from the start. But unlike Nintendo decided to absorb losses and then it paid off following gen because Playstation had good reputation for longevity and game support.
John Lewis
3DS was panic price dropped to a meager $180 just a few months after launch and even then still hasn't outsold PSP (a handheld Nintendofags claimed was a flop).
Josiah Bell
>still can't answer a simple question Snoyfags are third world brazilians conmfirmed
Christian Baker
I don't think obsessing over the Ps4 this much is healthy m8
Elijah Allen
3DS sales are damn close to PSP sales. Which is impressive given the state of the economy at the launch of both handhelds. The PSP is only a "flop" when compared directly to the DS (same launch year). In all other contexts it was very successful, just like the 3DS.
The irony of Sonyfriends shitting on the 3DS is that it sold almost equally as well as the PSP. To call one a flop is to call the other a flop too.
Adrian Scott
Someone post that one image of every time a "market analyst" has predicted the death of Nintendo. I can't seem to find it myself. The short version of it is that if you went by those analysts, then Nintendo has died every year since the early 90s.
Jose Gonzalez
"market analysts" for games are literally just Yea Forums, making random as fuck guesses that are always wrong.
Xavier Fisher
You're saying that as if anything Sony did during the early PS3 years was a good idea. The billion loss wasn't part of a plan, it was just a fuck up, and the R&D/Blu-ray has been discussed to death and both were obviously mistakes. They ceded ground to Nintendo when they were at their hottest with the Wii and made themselves look idiotic in the process.
Dominic Cooper
Same here. I still find myself digging through their catalogue of games to see something fresh for a change since everything they make is starting to look so similar. As good as some of the games on Ps4 are, nothing really stands out in originality compared to stuff on the Vita or the PS3. I think Sony shines the most this way when theyre willing to fund indie developer that want to make their own kind of game, and not be injected with politics from the company itself. Nintendo has a good standard for the quality of their games but their assets and production just give the impression of poor confidence in exploration of themes and the likes. At least with other platforms I'm guaranteed something a lot more different, albeit, at times, with the sacrifice of the quality of the games themselves. I'm just hoping Sony will eventually learn that giving some money and time to people with an interesting concept, idea and such can pay off even if it might not always be successful. It will show that they care about games at the end of the day.
Levi Perez
Nobody here has said Nintendo would die retard.
Aiden Wilson
And still they chose to absorb those billion dollar losses instead of cutting their losses like Nintendo did with Wii U. And that gave them a significant advantage 8th gen when common consensus was by the end of last gen that PS3 was the best console.
Wyatt Kelly
The irony of Nintenfags calling PSP a success suddenly when they spent a decade saying how hard it flopped.
Zachary Cox
>common consensus was by the end of last gen that PS3 was the best console. There's no metric that puts the PS3 ahead of the Wii.
Cooper Martin
No one shat on the PSP newfriend. It was beloved by all for how easy it was to hack. Are you perhaps mixing it up with the Vita?
Lucas Garcia
Snoyfags have spent years trying to invent one. Like units sold per dollars saved compared to launch and other ridiculous shit like that.
Nolan Ramirez
Now Yea ForumstendoGAF will say Wii had more longevity than PS3 last gen.
It absolutely isn't a gimmick. I play handheld mode all the time, and switch to TV whenever wife isn't home. I bring it pretty often to friends houses to play handheld mode and dock mode depending on the games.
Switch is fucking amazing for people that actually have family. If you're a single basement dweller, then the Switch is pretty shit though.
Brandon Evans
And the Wii still outsold the PS3 by a massive margin. Why delude yourself? It makes snoyfags look even more delusional than everybody knows they are.
Owen Jenkins
I'm not sure what your point is, considering Sony had no choice but to weather the storm. The PS3 was a far worse failure than the Wii U and they were in a very different situation to Nintendo. There was no option to restart with a PS4 BECAUSE they lost billions of dollars. Nintendo has almost always been healthily in the green.
Agreed user, agreed completely. Sony has a few C-tier development teams and games but they've dropped the ball on more creative, imaginative games that are captivating and original. It's all about chasing the mature audience of 20-30 somethings IMO, and that's extremely lame. It's all a matter of taste of course, but I can't help but feel they're just happily ceding this territory to Nintendo. I wish there was more choice.
The Genesis/SNES and PS1/N64 era was the best for this IMO as while you had some edgier games you had a lot of more colourful and creative games on all platforms that didn't feel like a massive downgrade. Maybe it's just how far AAA development has come but only Nintendo can make a B-tier game not feel Z-tier.
Jeremiah Flores
>massive margin >less than 15 million Wii started out as the best selling console ever but then sales dived off a cliff by 2010 because normalfags got tired of Nintendo's gimmicky plastic shit.
Also PS4 will outsell Wii this year. I'll be here to collect those tears.
Kevin Wright
PS3 hits a dead stop over 3 years before the Wii. I'd call that the Wii winning on longevity.
Jonathan Evans
Let me guess, you think colorful bing bing wahoo shit is creative?
Sony in every gen puts out way more creative games than Nintendo does.
Ayden Davis
What does the PS4 have on the horizon to drive sales? Genuinely asking.
Dominic Hall
>this is the snoyfag COPING hard. LOL, nice trying to COPE with being outsold by the Wii.
Grayson Lopez
And AC:NH launches in March. The Switch Lite will do well if only because of those two system-sellers (as they've typically done better on handhelds than consoles) but I think the price-point will definitely lower the barrier of entry for many casual fans who couldn't justify the cost before and primarily only want it to play with friends (i.e. in local multiplayer or casual online multiplayer). I think the success of handhelds' price points also is partially related to the cost of home consoles on the market and the discrepancy. So, the Switch had a big issue wherein it was priced at the same level as an Xbox One S or PS4 Slim/original, but was less powerful and had fewer AAA multiplats that many casuals look to. However, I think the Lite comes in low enough compared to the $250 XboneS and $300 PS4Slim that it will be seen as an affordable handheld rather than an overpriced and underpowered console. That shift in perspective will be very potent, especially when you consider that it has a comparable library of perceived 'must-haves' compared to the other consoles as well. I may also just be Nintendofagging but I think the stage is set for the Lite to do well and it's Nintendo's prize to lose at this point.
Gavin Parker
>sony >creative Choose one. Sony literally has never made a creative game since they entered the video game industry
Angel Sullivan
TLOU2, FFVII Remake and also of course being the console of choice for most people who don't exclusively play bing bing wahoo shit.
Xavier Bell
>worst possible framerate >worst possible resolution >major graphical downgrades no switch version of a game will ever be the definitive version, unless there's greedy bullshit like dqxi's extra content.
Levi Morgan
Yeah dude I love third person walking simulators with maybe some open world elements. They're extremely creative.
James Long
The nincel cope that 14 years after SOTC, Jewtendo still hasn't matched with its level of artistic excellence.
Tyler Anderson
I think it's expected the Lites are going to fucking FLY off the shelves when the new Pokemon game comes out.
Juan Cox
Yeah dude I love 5 hour bing bing wahoo rehashes that are impossible to fail at and also sound and look like N64 games.
Camden Rivera
>SOTC Literally brown and grey-the game Nice "creativity".
Benjamin Peterson
but enough about twilight princess.
Connor Evans
>Sony's games >possible to fail
Samuel Campbell
Consolefags do not care about framerates and resolution. They don't, shouldn't, and have never. It's about the experience playing on the hardware.
This is why PS4 and Xbone are garbage. They're just shitty PCs, not consoles.
Noah Howard
>Jewtendo game >green and green Nice "creativity"
Matthew Nguyen
Is this where the nintenfag deludes himself into thinking Switch is anything but refurbished Nvidia Shields?
Lincoln Gonzalez
>Is this where the nintenfag deludes himself into thinking Switch is anything but refurbished Nvidia Shields? And the PS4 is just a worse laptop.
Jayden Peterson
Brown and grey games are capable of being creative without appealing to your Bing Bing Wahoo fantasies. Just learn to mature just a tiny bit, and you will have the capacity to play a different variety of games.
>outsell the Wii this year >FFVIIR is 2020 >TLOU2 has no release date >this year Also, it's hard to say either title will drive console sales. Anyone interested in FF bought a PS4 for FFXV, and I'm sure anyone interested in TLOU2 has one as well.
>Just learn to mature just a tiny bit, and you will have the capacity to play a different variety of games. He says while praising snoy's library of exactly identical games. Their most hyped games a re movie #227 and a literal remake.
Gavin Rodriguez
SOTC was 15 years ago. Tell me about Sony's current games that are creative.
Jaxon Reed
I can spend $30 and my phone is now better than a ps vita. Sorry bro.
>Gamecube emulator >PS2 emulator >Every console prior emulator >1337 mobile games such as PUBG, Fortnite, OSRS, Candycrush
>has to go back to a PS2 game from a now defunct studio to find creativity
Mason Sanchez
Only delusional retards on Yea Forums think that the Souls series is the hardest shit. Let me remind you that the Cleric Beast in BB has been killed by a fucking RABBIT. A RABBIT.
Andrew Martin
Look one post above fag
Carson Stewart
So Nintendo makes something new and Sony rips of Microsoft? How creative Sony is
Isaac Sullivan
Recycling cardboards from the trash is hardly something "new".
Jose Thompson
>Project Spark, but Sony So creative
Jayden Mitchell
I can barely make out the games, but I think I make out a lot of shovelware and indie games. This is only proving my point.
Hudson Ward
>Cardboards, but with Nintendo's logo So creative
Josiah Rodriguez
LOL, that is literally a rip off from Microsoft, why are you pretending that is snoy creativity?
Angel Green
Recreating Project Spark, but 5 years later, isn't excactly creative.
Wyatt Kelly
Is resorting to blatant lies all nintenfags have left?
Cameron Davis
No argument there, but at least they actually look cool to play compared to the plethora of generic Nintendo games. Anything worth playing on the Switch I already have in my Wii U (Iwatas last console before the company started going to shit). I can only count Odyssey as being the only thing worth checking out on your console, and even then it tries to imitate an older Snoy game (AE3).
Connor Phillips
More creative than theft, for sure. But it's literally okay if snoy does it.
Owen Turner
>cardboards you don't need to be so dismissive, user I think labo is a real innovation. A shit innovation, but a real one.
>AE3 meme You would be better of crying about it being a port. At least you would look slightly less retarded
Nathan Murphy
At least Indie games are trying something different, even if it may not always be a success. Nintendo can't even afford that and play safe constantly.
Evan Wilson
>littlebigplanet, but microsoft so creative
Levi Morales
>No game marked as perfect >All "good" marked games are available on the PC already, without the emulation flaws Still not relevant
Joseph Gray
>look cool to play Have snoyfags really fallen so low they have to claim looking at a video of a game looking good is actually important to the quality of a game?
Dominic Butler
the big cope.
Dominic Richardson
Media Molecule still isn't Sony
James Sullivan
I’m probably gonna blow a grand just on video games I’m just happy I can afford it
Dylan Jones
Doesn't erase the fact that Nintendo is starting to copy their rivals because the company is losing faith in its game division.
How is that new Pokemon game turning out btw?
Jack Cook
sony owns them.
Blake Robinson
>Doesn't erase the fact that Nintendo is starting to copy their rivals because the company is losing faith in its game division. Prove it.
Brayden Ramirez
>indie games >not playing it safe They cost almost fucking nothing to make for a company like Sony, and are played by a tiny fraction of the player base.
Never said Nintendo was perfect, but you're really going to use indie games as your argument? Nintendo also has plenty of shitty indie games that no one cares about, they're irrelevant.
Tyler Young
>sonyfags literally still believe that How pathetic.
And why bring up Pokémon, you probably knew everything you said was retarded and hoped to distract.
James Ward
How is Oddysey anything like AE3? And if you're going to say the cappy gimmick, go look up "Space Station Silicon Valley"
Connor Rodriguez
They have no exclusives, they are a billionaire company with only one system that also has sold fairly well and they cannot secure exclusives of the games they receive just like Sony did with the vita, daemon x machina, no more heroes 3, shin megami tensei V, rune factory 5 could be big console selling exclusives but the retards at nintendo are apparently hated by every Dev in the industry because the bastards simply cannot get exclusives.
Also, 20 dollars for the shittiest online ever, 20 dollars, for lag in Mario maker 2, 20 dollars, a single man made a Mario Royale with 100 people run perfectly in a web browser, 20 fucking dollars for this garbage.
Noah Cooper
Playing a cool looking video game that also plays well is a pretty cool thing. Only Nintendo game that really does that is Ocarina of Time. Why don't you want cool games user? Not everything needs to appeal to those childhood fantasies that you have to leave behind.
Hunter Sanchez
>Is the Switch really a success? Yes, and frankly you trying to reason that it's a failure is kinda sad
Luke Murphy
How come snoy cucks SEETHE so hard every time the switch is mentioned? They literally seem to lose their fucking minds and turn into blabbering morons
Thomas Sanchez
Sony bought them in 2010, LBP was released in 2008.
Sebastian Lewis
>Doesn't erase the fact that Nintendo is starting to copy their rivals because the company is losing faith in its game division. That is a big claim, is there a source for this?
Jack Wood
Trying to argue it's a failure is all sonyfags are living for at this point
Isaac Cox
>Nintendo has no exclusives
At this point you really have to question the sanity of shitters on this board.
Just look at this thread, they are mentally ill. Literally delusional at this point, denying reality.
Angel Smith
I think they're just laughing since the Ps4 is the best console of the generation.
Parker Cook
He thinks AE3 is the inspiration for the Cap-ture mechanic in Odyssey. He's wrong, see: youtu.be/My5ZXWDVU6g?t=437 a game that came out 7 years before AE3.
Luke Ramirez
fps Like the PS4 version!
Zachary Jenkins
Breath of the Wild - Tower ideas were from Assassins Creed. Miyamoton mentioned that he likes said IP.
Pokemon X and Y - Mega Evolutions were a concept copied from Digimon since their ridiculousness tries to imitate this.
Mario Odyssey - Several sections in the game share very similar gameplay mechanics to Ape Escape, such as Tank sections and Wire running.
Mario Kart 8 - Anti gravity was from Crash Nitro Kart and the coin collections originated from the Wumpa collection in CTR.
Samuel Phillips
There is no laughing here, just actual anger and SEETHING about any mention of the switch. They seem legitimately upset by it, no idea why they are so pathetic.
Grayson Gonzalez
Ps4 is the best console of the generation, get over it.
Leo Thomas
You really don't seem to understand Nintendo at all then. >the Wii was a fluke It wasn't. >Nintendo is basically combining their handheld and home consoles for the first time In terms of games? Yes. In terms of hardware? No. >Nintendo is putting all their eggs in one basket In terms of games? Yes. In terms of hardware? No. >compare the sales of the Switch to even just Nintendo's handhelds, it's not such a pretty picture Doesn't know Nintendo handheld history at all. When the 3DS hit just 50 million, third party support started flooding in. Success can reach a point where it is self sustaining. There are numerous examples of this throughout history, even with the other companies. >The DS ended up selling over 100m. The Switch will likely never reach that number going by trends Underestimating the strength of Pokemon Sword and Shield. Greatly. You say that the Switch is now at 30-40m right? I'd be surprised if the Switch doesn't pass 50m before January, especially with black friday. >The Nintendo market is drying up. Yet, the Switch is outselling the Wii U. How can Nintendo's target demographic be shrinking if their next device is selling more then their previous device? Wouldn't the opposite make more sense then?
tl;dr The Console Switch got enough of a push to bypass the failures of the Wii U and become successful, and now they have introduced the Handheld Switch with a new mainline Pokemon on the horizon. The first mainline Pokemon that will be able to be played on the TV as well as the handheld. Yet, OP seems to think the Switch isn't going to get handheld level sales when Pokemon is on its way. OP does not understand Nintendo nor does it understand Nintendo history it would seem.
Michael Williams
Everything you said was wrong, good job retard. You can maybe say that mega evolutions were inspired by digimon, but the rest is just factually wrong. Especially the Maro Kart thing, that was in the first one on snes.
Camden Campbell
Now THAT is some grade a delusion
Justin Bell
then why are you here crying?
Dylan Jenkins
Why are you projecting?
Jace Lee
There have been no worthwhile Nintendo exclusives between Smash and now. Super Mario Maker 2's UI was better on Wii U
Nobody is projecting, look how many posts are here by snoyfags cryig over the switch and how it will definitely flop any moment now.
Noah Brooks
Explain the anti gravity concept then; the wheels literally shift upside down and change to a blue hue, a very similar aesthetic to the karts doing something very similar from CNK.
Tyler Garcia
>Assassin's Creed invented verticality >Digimon invented evolutions >Ape Escape invented tank sections (???) >CTR invented the coin system from Mario Kart (SNES)
Dylan Young
I saw the plane thread, that was peak snoyfag COPING. Literally crying bitter tears for the smallest mention of the switch in a thread, literally dozens of posts with wojaks and SEETHING
Jason Mitchell
Pokemon already had evolutions. Why go the extra mile and start making the designs nonsensical to the point your game gets compared to another franchise that does something very similar?
Benjamin Wilson
How was the Wii not a fluke?
My argument is that Switch might not match the past combined sales of Nintendo's handheld+console markets, when they're basically combined them.
How is the hardware not combined? They're basically discontinued the 3DS with very few games releasing on it anymore, and there's no new handheld to replace it.
You're right the Lite and Pokemon (even if it looks shit it'll still sell 10m easily) could keep the momentum going, but they have a lot to do to keep it going. The user calling it their "panic button" isn't completely wrong.
Even you concede they are putting all their games in one basket, and as that is where Nintendo I assume makes their money the most, that is also a big deal. Good post overall though.
Luke Barnes
Outside of the Wheels turning sideways, so did F-Zero. Stop trying to reach, it makes you look pathetic.
Mason Barnes
>My argument is that Switch might not match the past combined sales of Nintendo's handheld+console markets, when they're basically combined them. Because it doesn't have to. The money has always been and still is in software. The amount of customers is important, not the exact amount of units sold. Of course on average, there will be more console + handheld sales because there is a massive overlap there. It's still about profits, and people forget only having one system is also much cheaper than having two. The handheld market from 10 years ago doesn't exist anymore, people shlould stop pretending it does.
Nathaniel Kelly
they dont have games tho..
Evan Price
Nah man, horizontal wheels for hover cars was totally invented by CNK. It's not like it's a well establish Sci-Fi trope or anything. And Blue. Man, Crash invented that color!
Ayden Jenkins
Miyamoto mentioned that his favourite Western IP that he sometimes plays is Assassins Creed. He also played a role in developing BOTW.
See Odyssey uses very similar aesthetics to Ape Escape for their tank sections. The Wire running looks very similar too.
Coin hunting, maybe I was wrong. However, MK8 heavily imitates the anti gravity feature of CNK, and Rainbow Road is now some kind of Space Station all of a sudden? (Oxide Station, CTR).
Connor Campbell
I agree with you mostly. Nintendo makes a profit on hardware but the meat of their money is software because of the margins. I'm just saying, with 1 monolithic system, they're putting all their eggs in one basket and they need to basically explode every year to have any real growth compared to the past. This is why IMO they started up NSO.
Gabriel Reed
The first half of the PS3s lifetime was rough. We get it. Take your PTSD elsewhere.
