ODST > 2 > 1 > 3 > Reach >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 > 5

I didn't know we were ranking music then damn
Music:
Reach > 5 = 4 = 3 = ODST > 2 = 1
they all have their tracks from each game that I love listening to Reach is the only soundtrack I regularly listen to the entire thing and not selectively.

where the shitting fuck is my PC release

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Which Spartan daddy is your fave?

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STFU Boomer, Halo CE objectively sucks it doesn't even have a proper multiplayer mode.
Are you shitting me? Have you even played CE and 5 cause those campaigns are fucking unbearably unfun. The level design in both is just hands down retarded and the story in Halo 5 sucks but at least there's a story unlike Halo CE which is just "guy go to place guy kill alien:.

Every character is so cool but Jorge and Noble's death definitely fit their character so perfectly.

>change is bad
alright, sure. armor lock and jetpack were shit though.

thanks bud. im hoping we teamed on a btb game at some point

>Doesn't have a proper multiplayer mode
It didn't have the advantage of Xbox Live you dolt. Its multiplayer was still groundbreaking at the time and a huge selling point for the game.

>Halo 5 sucks but at least there's a story
Jesus Christ, you're even dumber than I'd thought. Halo CE has a simple story, that does not mean it's bad. The plotting is incredibly tight and it established a winning framework for the whole series.

>ODST that low
you dumb bastard

>at the time
why do boomers always use this excuse when somebody cals a game out for not being as good as they gold it up to
>but muh standards were lower
yea guns werent a thing in 1600s doesnt mean you should bring a pike to desert combat. If the standards of video games at the time were lower that literally means the game is worse compared to the newer ones.

ODST is literally 2nd

Halo CE's gameplay still shits on all others in the series with the exception of Halo 3/Halo 3:ODST. It's still a great game, but it doesn't hold your hand like new shooters so it makes sense that a brain dead zoomer like yourself would find it off putting. I'm sure you'll happily fork over $80 for a turd like Halo Infinite.

nerfing the magnum in the later games is the worst thing Bungie ever did

3 > CE > 4 > 2 > 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODST and Reach

horrid taste

Kill yourself mother fucker, this is based on taste, ODST and Reach had the worst most unfun campaigns in the series with a shit story and shit characters to boot.

yikes

This is the weirdest taste I've ever seen. Do you really hate lore that much that you would rate 4 higher than 2 and ODST and Reach that low?

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absolute vidyakino

Big ups for Core Multiplayer placement of 5. We can all argue on what's best, but I do think 5 is some of the best Halo multiplayer ever.

Halo 5 is the best multiplayer hands down, weapon balancing was as best of any game, Breakout was fun as fuck, Forge was INSANE so there were always fun and exciting maps to play, and the war games are okay too it's a shame it took like 2 years to add firefight.

With Halo 2 yes, it ruins the Covenant more than Halo 4 ruined the Forerunners while it also ruins the Flood, not as bad as Halo 4 did the Forerunners but it pretty much does, ODST and Reach weren't lore issues it's just more that their campaigns were complete shit from beginning to end and I still question with some people even liked about them, after Halo CE-3 they were both very unimpressive.

Please go back and stop using reddit buzzwords.

You literally couldn't give 2 shits about having fun while playing? Halo Reach had the most fun campaign out of them all.

>Halo Reach had the most fun campaign out of them all
It didn't know running around empty plains with poor enemy encounters, fighting through forced Firefight sections, pressing buttons constantly, getting forced through on-rails Falcon sections, and getting the worst tank section in the series was the most fun the series had ever been. If you think that shit was fun, you never played Halo CE-3, even Halo 4 and 5 have more fun moments in their campaigns over Reach.

I wouldn't go as far to say Reach is the best, but it's definitely better than fucking 4 and 5.

That's debatable, it really wasn't fun and Bungie can go fuck themselves for all the cockteases it had.

You unironically think the level design in 5 is better than in Reach? Are you retarded?

It is objectively more fun than 4 and 5.

It's really boring, you guys have to be baiting or literally never played the first three games in the series if you think Reach's campaign was even remotly fun, it had the least amount of change up in the series to date. Also
>objectively
Get the fuck out of here and take your reddit meme back to fucking reddit, you loser.

>unironically
God damn, the mods really need to ban reddit posters I mean seriously.

cringe

>cringe
Oh my god, get out.

Reach is not better than the OT, but its also not worse than 4 and 5. Have you played them recently? They're garbage, none of the emotional high points register except for whenever you use the Mantis.

>cringe
>yikes
>objectively
>unironically
>have sex
>incel
Anyone that uses these words needs to be banned on the spot.

you sound triggered user

Prometheans are the worst enemies to fight as well, just so fucking boring.

youre cancelled and thats the tea sis

>emotional high points
Mother fucker what's more important in Halo, gameplay or story, because I want to have fun, if I want have some kind of emotion, I would just play a PlayStation game.

I knew ODST and Reach fans were reddit posters.

the flying ones are interesting but feel more like a chore than are fun. I wanna fight jackals and elites in ghosts.

Halo has very hot looking men in it.

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Emotional points in the gameplay you brainlet. Warthog runs, holdout segments, stuff that gets your blood pumping when playing. The 343 games have none of it. They lack soul.

Flying ones respawn enemies and buff knights which is fucking terrible desu. I shouldn't be forced to kill it every single time first.

Based

>holdout segments
How the hell is Firefight segments fun, they're what ruined ODST and Reach's campaigns, too many defend your position sections that last too damn long and looking at Destiny Bungie didn't learn shit from ODST and Reach for this shit. I also wish we got more Warthog runs.

I love Halo because it is one of the only games I have ever seen that doesn't make female armour and uniform different and skimpier than men's but also acknowledges that the 2 genders have different anatomy unlike Battlefront.

same, it makes me feel good playing it too.

Knights suck less on Normal difficulty (the canon difficulty) since their shields aren't as high and they die with one plasma grenade stick in Halo 4.

I think that's more of a (You) problem. Lone Wolf isn't considered a highlight of the series for nothing.

I'm so happy Halo kept the inverted triangle body for men and hourglass figure for women.

Lone Wolf is the only good level in the game and it only lasts for a few minutes at best.

>Normal difficulty (the canon difficulty)
>"While this setting would be considered the equivalent of "Hard" in other games, Bungie has stated that Heroic difficulty represents the "true Halo universe."

how about this: CE was the only legitimately good Halo game and the rest are faggot turds

Fun fact: Easy is the canon difficulty for CE due to a tiny detail in the book.

(Doubt)

All Bungie said is that Halo was meant to play that way because they felt it gave the best experience but then their Halo CE-3 dialogue contradicts what they say so, in other words their words, mean shit since Normal is the game's canon stats.

Fuck the damn books, they're less canon than the games, Normal is the canon difficulty.

Halo: The Flood is the canon version of the events depicted in Halo: CE. In it, it describes how Master Chief picks up a shotgun near a crashed pelican at the beginning of the 343 Guilty Spark level. This shotgun will ONLY appear on the Easy difficulty of the game.

Games > Books in canon, shut the fuck up.

How does the book supersede the game in terms of canon?
Why was there no novelization of Halo 2 or 3?

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It doesn't, he's baiting.

the book is a novelization of the game

That means shit, games supersede books in canon in both Bungie and 343i era.

none of the other books besides The Flood are novelizations of the games

Yes but I want an answer for my second question

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Doesn't matter, games > books in canon, the end.

source?

>source?
What? You can't be series on this, it's been stated years ago.

so where is it then

God damn, I can't believe I'm posting this
forums.bungie.org/halo/archive28.pl?read=847640

Halo Reach and bungies melt down over people not liking the retcons is the most recent time Games>Books, but stuff changed for gameplay reasons doesn't change how the universe works. It is all supposed to be equal in canon, but Halo Reach fucked that up. However gameplay changes don't change canon, plasma melting through marines in one shot isn't affected by them tanking bolts in campaign. How young are you dude?

It was never equal games have always been over books in canon.

this is old mane, Fireteam Raven came out recently and solidified The Flood as canon

It's supposed to be equal now under 343 but that doesn't make sense since there's the glaring issues from Halo Reach.

EXCEPT for the area where Chief meets up with the ODST squad at Two Betrayals, that's noncanon

It never fucking changed, it's just that 343 are more careful with it, also 343 didn't develop Fireteam Raven some arcade group did so that puts Halo CE above it in canon, mainline games are the highest form of canon.

No, it's not, it's still the same but with less contradictions, 343 tends to check the books more on if it made a contradiction to the games now, if it did the games would correct it just like Bungie era so in other words even though it's to a lesser extend now, it's still games > everyting else in canon, the new TV show being seen as an offshoot should tell lorefags something. They took the whole everything counts shit as in everything is equally canon when that was never the case.

Bungie always hated other creators doing work on Halo. They hung Ensemble Studios out to dry with no help on Haah Waaw and threw a hissy fit when they found out Nylund was working on a book to go with their game and tried to have it cancelled before daddy M$ stepped in.

Didn't some 343 employee make a post stating that only marketing stuff is a lower tier of canon? I thought 343 viewed it all as canon equally unless bungie had previously ruled in on it.

It's still the same all 343 stated they would do is starting with Halo Cryptum put more focus on making the books connect more with the game's universe with fewer contradictions.

ahhh okay
Was it O'brien or Rob who got incredibly mad when halo reach's ending leaked and people got mad at the retcons? Because before that Bungie just tried to ignore the extended universe, but with Reach since they were done they were being niggers to everyone.

2 >= 3 > 1 > ODST > Reach > 4 > 5

Only reason 2 is on equal footing to 3 is because of its campaign. I think strictly gameplay wise 3 easily tops 2, but Arbiter's story really elevates 2 higher than it would've been otherwise.

1 is phenomenal, but just doesn't stand the test of time as well as 2 and 3.

ODST's atmosphere and story are both great, but it doesn't offer any improvements on 3. It's a great spin-off, and I wish we had more like it.

Reach has a great multiplayer, but the campaign didn't do anything for me. Noble Six being a blank slate was a bit of a detriment to the game for me. Didn't feel like I had the time to connect with any of the other characters either. Felt like the end of a story that I never saw the beginning of.

4 is barely Halo. Feels way too floaty, the story is bland as hell, and the gameplay overall feels like the average FPS. The art style changed for the worst, Covenant remnants were basically space ISIS, and the Prometheans were horribly uninspired in both art design and mechanics. Worst crime was setting up the fifth game.

5 isn't necessarily worse than 4 all around. The gameplay is significantly more fun, albeit equally less Halo. The story is by far the worst in the series. If you've only played the games, you only know two of the playable characters: Buck and Chief. Meanwhile, series legend Arbiter is relegated to the sidelines and expresses little to no interest in the welfare of Master Chief despite having gone through Hell with the man. Despite a great cast, every character is as bland as humanly possible. And the music fails to get across the mythical fantasy sci-fi vibe that the original trilogy worked so hard to establish. Good multiplayer though, pretty fun. Not Halo though.

>Was it O'brien or Rob who got incredibly mad when halo reach's ending leaked and people got mad at the retcons? Because before that Bungie just tried to ignore the extended universe, but with Reach since they were done they were being niggers to everyone.
That's basically what happened which is why I wonder why Yea Forums defends Reach era Bungie.

>change is good

I've played Halo 5 multiplayer and its garbage. As usual, it's more fun to play without sprint, ADS, or moba shittery spartan abilities.

Yea Forums is full of spics as we know from april fools, and spics loved Halo Reach and are the whole reason 343 didn't make their TU fixed gamemodes the default. Or they are kids, just look how many people in the modern halo community even pros are people who started with basically Reach. I wish any person who says Halo Reach Campaign was great would fucking die, it had god awful map designs because they were forced to incorporate multiplayer design elements into a lot of the levels.

MCC on PC when?

Honestly with how shit Reach's vanilla mp maps were I wouldnt be surprised if they were designed for the campaign first.

Halo 3 is mediocre. Particularly the multiplayer

>2>1
Shut the fuck up, retard.

careful, what you say is heresy

Well they were designed for both which is why they were so bad at both. Campaign it was less offensive, MP they were trash. God I remember being fucking excited for 343 taking over thats how bad Reach was.

1>3 and odst>2>reach>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call of halo 4&5

god the nylund books are so good.
the first 6 books are generally pretty fucking good. i'll probably reread them when mcc drops on pc.

Space combat in The Fall of Reach and First Strike is so good. The ODST parts of Cole Protocol make me wish we'd get some ODST books.

They announced it too early, sorry user

i liked 4 for the cortana & chief story. really jerked some tears at the end there. 5 was shit tho. my headcannon is that 4 is just a poignant, stand alone sequel to the OT that kinda wraps things up a bit.
one last big adventure for the beloved dynamic duo, out there saving the galaxy like they usually do.
this cliffhanger this time isn't chief disappearing into a slipspace rupture, but hanging up his rifle for whenever he's needed next. or will he be needed next? with the spartan IV's and all...
they could've ended it right there.
after 5's story being such a mess, that's where i personally believe the story ends.

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Der Erwig Reachfag

this, hope they don't try and sell stuff separately

The fact that anyone ranks 3 below anything else in terms of music is fucking astounding. Imagine being a literal retard with zero taste.

>Objective: Survive

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Reach was so shit, I sold my Xbox and got into PC Gaming. Buying the legendary edition was a mistake.

Campaign
ODST > 1 > 3 > 2 > Reach > 5 > 4

Multiplayer
2 > 3 > 5 > 1 > Reach > ODST > 4

>implying 1 doesn't have the best soundtrack
Utterly plebeian

The games are being priced individually. Presumably you'll be able to buy the whole package for $40-$50 when they're all ported

3 is objectively O'Donnell's best work and it's not even close. One Final Effort is a goddamn masterpiece.

youtube.com/watch?v=4ddOHdbQVlM
is the best music to ever be in a halo game

>Bungie was forced to rush Halo 2
True, but it was fantastic despite this, if rough around the edges.

>and major problems with weapon balance.
And if you look at my rankings you see me agree with this, I have 2 rock bottom for weapon balance. The BR is broken as fuck in 2. However, despite this, I still enjoy 2's MP over 3's due to the better level design and just due to the higher responsiveness and feel to how core movement and shooting works. also let's be honest no Halo game has had actually "good" weapon balance anyways, CE, Reach, and 5 are the closest we've gotten and all still have pretty blatent balance issues

>Masterpiece tier
>Halo: CE

CE's campaign is tedious and repetitive as fuck, it's basically the arbiter missions but for an entire campaign. The weapon balance in CE is really solid, arguably the best in the series, and it's level design is the best behind 2's, but between the flawed campaign and the general lack of content it's IMO one of the weakest games in the series.

>ADS

It acts identical to the zoom the series has always had: there's descope, your movement speed is unaffected, guns are mostly accurate even without it, etc.

>b-but it increases accuracy

so did zoom, see webm

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Epic cream. One Final Effort does the Halo theme better than the original

3's soundtrack is just a rehash of 1 and 2's

ODST's soundtrack is Marty's best, IMO.

It's so moody. Wish there was more like it.

>having ODST as #1

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there's no "canon" difficulty.

That being said, The Flood superseceding CE in canon is sort of true.

People misunderstand the canon tiers things. Even under bungie, where they explictly said game canon > book canon, this was in reference to EVENTS and plot details, it wasn't a confirmation that gameplay abstractions were canonical.

The Flood was "canon over CE" in the sense that the additional details and information it gave was considered canon even if none of that was shown in CE itself; same for stuff like how powerful guns are, etc. So like even if no ODST's are seen in CE, ODST's being present as described in the novel was still canon.

>and it's level design is the best behind 2'
I mean for the MP here, speffically, to be clear

And it does them better. "Rehash" doesn't really work as a complaint when it does it better. We're talking about what's better. Saying "well but it's the same" doesn't change anything about the quality.

How do you want your halo senpai?

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Oh, well I guess it does allow us to start playing without having to wait as long but I feel it is probably going to be more expensive to get each one individually as they are released that to wait and buy the whole collection which sucks

Well heroic is expressly described as "the way it was meant to be played" so I operate off of that

Legendary is ridiculous bastard difficulty where the brutes all have automatic grenade lauunchers that kill you in one shot, dodge grenades like a motherfucker, and shrug off almost all normal weapons

>It acts identical to the zoom the series has always had
Now show me the difference between zoomed and unzoomed shotgun spread in the older games.

i'll have mine without the mass effect 3 plot rip, please

So new weapons have scope now.

>the brutes
Which game had difficult brutes? The only one that comes to mind is 2, but they were far from the most threatening enemies in that game.

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Reach's were annoying if you didn't have a needle rifle.

ODST>3>1>Reach>2>4>5

ODST's brutes ruined me with their brute shots on Legendary. Been awhile since I played though

All weapons have smart scope in Halo 5, and it reduces spread on all weapons. The only difference between Halo 5's scopes and ADS is no movement penalty unless you're in the air and no target snapping, but with as much bullet magnetism as Halo 5 has to make up for everyone zip zooming around the fuckhuge maps, I can understand why they would drop those parts.

also remove sprint

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