>starcraft gets remastered
>warcraft 3 gets remastered
>diablo 2 going to get remastered too
I'm scared. They're gonna butcher it, right?
>starcraft gets remastered
>warcraft 3 gets remastered
>diablo 2 going to get remastered too
I'm scared. They're gonna butcher it, right?
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It'll be fine if it's only a remaster and not anything else.
I hope so
The weird ass realistic outsourced art style would actually work for D2. Unlike War3 where it looks totally out of place.
Just get rid of all the fucking bots already in the OG D2. Jesus fuck
Diablo 2 blows, who cares.
No it wouldn't. Diablo 2 isn't cartoony at all. I agree the pixarshit in war3 reforged looks really bad compared to the original graphics.
Oh yeah thats fine
Post your reaction when you hear blizzard round the corner and says: youtube.com
Diablo ii cartoon'd too. Get hype for future blizzard products and services.
Will we ever get to play Diablo 2 the classic way.
Feels like only Warcraft 1 & 2 and Diablo 1, being on gog.com, are same from nu-Blizzard's paws
16k people still play diablo 2 on b.net as it is, not counting the 10's of thousands more who play mods, play using PlugY or who play on private servers.
It's a bigger playerbase than most games released in the last 12 months, half as many players as people playing ARK (the 10th most popular game on steam) literally right now. .
They'd definitely fuck it up somehow, but at least people would always still play the old game.
All Blizzard North's talent has gone elsewhere decades ago.
>tfw I'm an Eve Online fag
>tfw almost as many people still play fucking Diablo 2 as my MMO that still gets 2 expansions a year, runs on DirectX12, 64bit client and is free2play.
Feels bad man
If CCP wasn't retarded that wouldn't be the case.
>cartoon graphics
>all skulls and skeletons removed
>lore rewritten to fit WoW canon
What else is guaranteed?
yeah pretty much
when I first started playing Eve it had 65k players logged in at any one time.
Feels bad logging in recently and only seeing 18k or 20k ppl on.
Why can't we get another atmospheric dungeon crawler like the og diablo with stellar pacing. just not fair how cocaine rng has addled you faggot's brains.
Diablo 2 is the best of the franchise get fucked cuck
m8 you're comparing concurrent to total active accounts, D2 doesn't have anywhere near that many concurrent players and Arks total active accounts would completely shatter anything D2 puts up.
I love D2 and am literally about to play the new Median XL season in 2 days when it resets but you're kidding yourself if you still think it's that popular
It does really well considering it's a 20 year old game that hasnt had any actual content updates for a good 10 years.
It's more alive than Artifact that's for sure.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Series peaked early.
They best not even touch the music
>They're gonna butcher it, right?
Obviously.
Blizzard is an absolute shit tier company. They ride on the nostlgia train for 20 years now. They never create anything new because they're all beta faggots, too afraid to take a risk or god forbid be creative. Fuck them i hope they die.
Will we ever get to play Diablo 2 the classic way.
Uh yeah. Play Diablo 2. Battlenet and single player still function just fine
Nerfs to hammerdin
They'll remaster Diablo 2 to be more in line with D3.
Does the SC remaster play closer to SC2 or something?
No, but WC3 Reforged is closer to SC2.
How so? I thought it wasn't even out yet.
im not really disagreeing with you but
hearthstone and overwatch were an overwhelming success nonetheless
Bots are good for the game, user.
what's the best finisher for the assassin?
Remaster Diablo 1 and then I'll care
Just started d2 few weeks ago properly and went skellymancer. Fuck me its slow but atleast i kill everything. im still having fun
>diablo 3 graphics
yeah its over
Why do you people think a DDoremaster would have completely remade graphics like the WC3 remake? It would be like SC remastered, ie just making the sprites and shot higher quality.
>D2 remaster
The game and it's mechanics are pretty fundamentally built around the sprites running at 24fps. The animation system is probably so tightly integrated with the game engine that changing from pre-rendered 3d sprites to real time 3d rendering will be almost as big a task as starting again from scratch.
I could see higher quality pre-rendered art though and that might actually turn out really nice.
I dunno, I have a feel that it wouldn't happen anytime soon somehow. It looks that from all the games Diablo franchise is most "not loved" from company, because.. well, technically it's Blizzard North baby and all the people left long time ago. Also criticism for D3 and very wrong direction with immortal not helping much.
Traps.
Warcraft 3 is a remake
All Blizzard has to do is update the graphics and have new realms separate from the old ones for online.
>Diablo 2 gets cute cartoonish skin
Oh wait, it's called Diablo 3.
Its called "path of exile"
If Diablo 3 was just Diablo 2 with cartoon graphics, it would have had some redeeming qualities, at least.
Oh yes, it will look bright and shitty.
Too much work to give it the StarCraft: Remastered treatment unless all the old files are still sitting around in storage, but I'd love that.
Get ready for DIABLO CARTOONED YAY!!
Also, funnily enough in the game's files there was a giant quill rat monster that was just a higher resolution rasterization of the same model. If they ever do a re-release, I hope they try to integrate some of the cut content like crafting with monster organs and the Necromancer's Familiar summon.
>warcraft 3 "remaster"
>changing all the models to be overdesigned garbage
>changing the story to put more emphasis on jaina and sylvanas because Muh Powerful Wimmin
>retconning in wow references and memes
since you consume blizzard products i have to assume you're retarded enough to believe in religion, so i suggest praying to your fake god that they don't "remaster" anything else
>The Necromancer also had a scouting ability known as the Familiar. The Necromancer would take control over a Familiar that could be used to scout the map while being outside of their body. Most of the data surrounding this skill still exists in the game, including the casting sounds, effects, and even some of the code behind it. This was probably cut because it wasn't a very useful skill to have.
Funny thing is speedrunners would fucking kill to have this thing so they could do stuff like check throne for souls without fucking dying before they can save and quit, especially in hardcore. Add a suffix for magic wands to have charges for it and it'd be a game changer.
It was already remastered and butchered by ggg tho
This was what I was going to say but with four more paragraphs
>blizzard north being concerned with necro skills being useful or not
bullshit
bots are only an issue if you plan on buying or selling stuff, unlike poe d2 is a game where you easily can make a mf character.
Traps are good for everything
>skills points are adjustable
>stat points are removed/automated
>item stat point requirements removed
>removed party system
>hostile is removed
>client sided drops
Most likely yes.
scr was fine
reforged not, the updates that gave 24 players was good though
I don't see how they'd help diablo 2
>skills points are adjustable
The Akara quest reward was bad enough
Hammerdin is already long long long nerfed in regular D2.
>not liking respec mechanics
literal boomers.
Yeah probably. The Starcraft remaster is great, but that's because Brood War was still a huge esport so they knew they had to respect the original, or it'd be a disaster. Meanwhile war3 is dead so they feel they can turn it into Clash of Clans. The same will go for Diablo 2 which is also a dead game. Expect auction house jewry as well.
>scr was fine
A lot of the portraits were changed to utter dogshit, Protoss especially. Conveniently, they patched out the ability to mod portraits easily just prior. Fine my ass.
fucking kek
and sadly a possibility
Fuck remaster, just dump it all in the D3 engine and fix the worst haxoring. Keep the fucking aspect ratio too.
They can be okay(poe with a few points of to respec from quests is fine), but it's generally better to avoid them.
You get more variety if a fist of the heaven paladin and a blessed hammer paladin have very different leveling experiences than if they both just level as fire zealots or whatever and then respec into what they really want to play at level 60-70.
It also makes your character feel more special since it is more special, when no one can just look at your build and snap their fingers to get it.
One of the reasons why diablo 3 was so shit was that there were no character build distinction.
Yeah I bet the 5 people who speedrun this game would love that
>One of the reasons why diablo 3 was so shit was that there were no character build distinction.
It sure all felt the same, didn't matter what class you were playing either. Everything was so hilariously generic, and the tranny diablo story had to have been written by some underage deviantart user related to Jay Wilson.
Fuck Diablo 3 and everyone responsible for it.
>that big stupid wall of text
don't people just get boosted anyway? How is that 'special'? Are you someone who actually played diablo 2 alone?
>don't people just get boosted anyway?
Nope, people don't care to just get boosted to do bhaal runs on hell asap or join enchantress
bot games.
A lot of people start characters and play them through the acts with others.
Even if everyone did get boosted it would make it very different to the d3 way where you only need 1 barb and just switch the abilities around between battles, you'd still need to put in some effort to build your new character even if it is way faster as it gets boosted.
The only games from blizzard worth playing is Brood War and Diablo 2
I always wondered what the fuck all those singleplayer faggots are thinking. Fucking over people on HCL and having fun dying to lag(rip full hdin setup) with your friends in diabaals-9001 is the height of Diablo 2 experience.
Is there an ARPG out there that actually makes every stat useful? It seems all of them either have one stat that rules over them all (ie: VIT in D2) or one stat that just straight up sucks balls and is best ignored (ironically, VIT in Torchlight 2)
Black pill hurts...
Diablo 2, energy can be very useful to put points in for budget/energy shield builds. STR for more dmg, dex for more block/ar/dmg, vita for not getting oneshot by souls.
Except for light radius, a lot of mods on items can be very useful with the right build and intention.
Diablo 2 has a bug that make mana burn melee monsters to do 40x(I don't remember exactly) the mana burn they should. This makes es build bad.
Path of diablo has this fixed.
I know some speedrunners but points in energy occasionally.
Anyway, new path of diablo ladder in about two weeks, see you there.
>reee women
I'm currently playing D2 (for the first time). I dont really see a need for a remaster. Maybe the resolution update (without affecting sprites). Maybe a brood war esque remaster could work
but warcraft 3 had the same style as the remaster, but with less poly?
LOOKING FOR BA`AL?
>Anyway, new path of diablo ladder in about two weeks, see you there.
six weeks. league started in june.
path of diablo
pathofdiablo.com
lads, I tried median XL but it just makes my eyes hurt
is there a comfy way to play original diablo 2 with resolution fixed?
why did blizzard port hydralisks into the diablo universe
Btw how do you get the nameplates of the items on the floor to show up all the time in D2?
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>It also makes your character feel more special since it is more special, when no one can just look at your build and snap their fingers to get it.
I could easily get my hammerdin only by doing tombruns before akara's restarts. Actually it invites players to level up with a "normal" build and trying different skills by not keeping 25 skill points until you reach level 40.
I will never forgive the current Diablo team for how they treated former Blizzard North employees.
Hold "Alt".
>diablo 2
>points in energy
>str for damage
>dex for AR
>make first character
>character ends up kinda shitty because I was trying out all these abilities
>no choice but to start a new character from the beginning
>no way to easily transfer good items between characters
Pic related is from me just logging in right now. Sure you can say a lot of those are bots, but you could say the same about any ARPG or MMORPG. Point is there is enough of a playerbase to warrant a remaster.
Energy is more of a HC untwinked thing, when your inventory is full of charms, maybe you don't want to carry 40 mana pots around.
And yes, str for damage and dex for AR. Barbs and bowazons exist.
>d2 remaster by modern actiblizz
rerelease it on GoG instead
What patch does path of diablo require?
Can I play it in single player?
Cool didn't know about that, thanks for sharing.
>play Diablo 2
>autistic minmaxers decree that you can only put points into vitality
>only allowed to use cookie cutter builds or else you're completely unviable in hell
>only 2 sets of items actually useful, entire game is built around getting them
nah, I'll stick with D3 thanks
>Make any game.
>Seven bots immediately join and flood the room with ads and shit.
It's literally just bots talking to themselves. I never saw an actual human being anywhere.
See you lads there
Reminder that Blizzard is dead and you shouldn't buy any of their games
They fixed that like 2 years ago though
This. Anyone who bitches about respec mechanics is a subhuman.
They might give it updated textures like SC but they are never going to do a hardcore update like WC3 reforged.
ARPGs are dead from a AAA perspective and anyone who still is into them has PoE and Grim Dawn. Diablo 4 will be a different kind of game.
>>autistic minmaxers decree that you can only put points into vitality
don't put anything in vit
haha
I have forgotten the details. Use pathofdiablo.com
You should play online on the realm even if you want to play alone because not all features are implemented in the single player mode.
Is there a high resolution patch for pod?
That window is very tiny on a 1440p monitor
Unsure if they'd even make one with D4 *supposedly* in the works considering they'd need to remake the whole game according to Brevik rather than just tweak the engine and add new HD sprites.
Then again, it's not exactly rocket science to make a 2d ARPG these days so I guess they might.
Toothy fuck, gibbing my hardcore characters when i was a kid. Fucking cold aura piece of shit GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Am I the only one who'd rather have a content patch, even if it were just a few items, than a remaster by ActiBlizz?
>Describe Diablo 3
>Pretend like you described Diablo 2
>2003+16
>putting points into vit
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ishiggydiggy doo da
Str exists to equip armor.
No.
The mod comes with glide though which allows you to have the window as whatever size you want.
No, this isn't SC BW, I'm pretty sure everyone would welcome content additions and skill & item balancing.
And to make barbs whirl shit harder. You're making a fool of yourself here, this is common knowledge. Just because the only build you ever heard of was zerker and the guide said "enough [x]-stat for gear" you think you're pro.
>Am I the only one who'd rather have a content patch, even if it were just a few items, than a remaster by ActiBlizz?
You are describing path of diablo.
The only thing Diablo 1 does better is structure. Descending from the cathedral to hell is a feeling the sequel did not faithfully recapture.
Friendly reminder that Diablo II's panther women have four (4) tits and this is canon
I hate playing online in D2, the servers are just so bad.
D2 was full of tits, and it actually had a bunch of dicks too but they cut most of the "lust" themed demons before release.
No it doesn't. Warcraft 3 is the good kind of cartoony, whereas the remaster is this modern chink/pixar shit.
where are these 3d models from?
>Actually it invites players to level up with a "normal" build and trying different skills
And in turns make it less interesting to do those builds since now everyone can make them at no risk or cost.
dude reforged looks sick. cant wait to waste another 10000000 hours on map maker at higher fidelity
Diablo 2 models were 3d then flattened in the 2d isometric perspective
I'm ok with reforged because it will bring a lot of new players. But I'll play with the original graphics because I don't like the new mobile-tier style.
It's a shame most of this shit is probably long gone, it would've been a boon to remaking/remastering the game.
Diablo 2 glide wrapper
Brevik said that a straight remaster can't be done because the entire script for the game was made for 800 x 600. Think of it like biomes in minecraft only loading one biome at a time, if the screen was larger, we would see monsters teleport into the map and it would look shit
>been playing the game for almost two decades
>still having fun with the game
Made an enchant bow sorc and a Tesladin, I love how much fun I can still have with the game
Yes, they will %100 remaster out all the gore. Can you imagine a modern day californian soiboy working on a remastered gutted amazon?
Not in this life time boy
>all killed monsters vanish the second they hit 0hp
>all humanoid enemies turned into robots
thx
All they have to do is dump the assets into the D3 engine, they already have enemies scripted for the same behavior in the new engine.
Doing anything with the old engine would also be impossible, because no one at Blizzard can actually make sense of the code anymore, even the D2 guy they keep in the basement has no idea wtf is going on.
So if there is a remaster, the good news is that it'll be coming to Switch ;^)
>Doing anything with the old engine would also be impossible, because no one at Blizzard can actually make sense of the code anymore
I doubt they're all brainlets who can't read.
>amazon is now flat chested
Screencap this.
While true to a degree, people have been using resolution hacks for years and it's surprisingly playable. I don't think a competent team would have too much trouble polishing up the concept, but it's Blizzard we're talking about.
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Reading isn't the issue, figuring out code when you don't have the original devs or their notes is a major pain in the ass. On top of that D2's code was a bit of a patchwork monster to begin with.
So dumping all the artwork in the new engine is probably the only viable solution. Really i'd just be happy with some bug fixes and more stable realms.
You could have some people who knows how to program go through the code and make their own notes of how it works. It's difficult at first but shouldn't take more than a few weeks at most.
That's about the max distance of teleporting mobs in, 1920 x 1080 or 4k is impossible
A solution could be to make it darker on the outsides to hide it, but it would change the feeling of the game(which might be good, but ultimately, defeat the purpose of having a 4k resolution if 60% of the screen is darkness)
I think you underestimate the complexity of such a task by quite a bit, and the potential gain from doing it compared to asset swapping.
That's basically reverse engineering m8, that's not simple and they don't want to waste money on it, they'd rather do what said and transfer models from D3 and turn them into isometric sprites(which is actually how they made D2 to begin with)
What about Diablo?
Or even WarCraft or WarCraft 2? What about Blackthorne!?
just kidding, I haven't played any of them, and I doubt I would.
They made diablo 1 in diablo 3 for an anniversary tristram event, it wasn't bad at all
dragon talon. it doesn't use weapon damage or +enhanced damage so you stack things like crushing blow, elemental damage, and other special effects.
this is known as a kick assassin. very interesting build.
stuff like this doesn't exist in D3 where every class plays exactly the same and tries to stack as much stats as possible to just make their numbers go up. this is why D2 will always be king.
also the REAL MONEY AUCTION HOUSE that completely gutted the reason for even playing the game.
every class just stacks as much stats as possible and finds the most cost efficient skill to dump their mana and do damage. every class just finds their set items that makes their one skill +1000% stronger. it's all tiresome garbage.
i'm back to playing D2 since the new season started in june. shit's great.
Fucking blizzard. Wanted to play some multiplayer and got message that my cd-key is claimed by blizzard wtf. I bought box edition years ago and they do shit like that
Go to your bnet account, it's there. You yourself put it there.
Would this be too controversial for nu-blizz?
no i did not. It's not there
It's in someone else's bnet account then :)
:(
True. Also i was going to play this reset but my friends flaked out on me, and i knew i'd end up MF'ing alone with 4 instances of D2 open farming items i'd never use and not even bother trading.
Maybe next ladder...
Take the d2/d3 hybrid pill
>playing this instead of Path of Diablo