Is more important than your gpu in your path

It actually isn't past 1080p

AMD now has the least worse 0.1% low though.

>AMD

Lol

intel has been slogging for years m8, got too comfortable releasing shitty cpus

>intel
LOL

>1080p
Lol. Poorfag resolution. Why do people spend so much on a CPU to play at fucking 1080p. It's not 2012 anymore.

The 9700K is priced like it performs, slightly higher than 3700X, and performs slightly better.

Both are good deals, but in the end it is 16 threads vs 8 threads, so if you do other things than gaming 3700x might have an edge.

anandtech.com/bench/product/2263?vs=2520
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>Intel

Who let the poorfags in?

>b-b-b-but amd
lmao stfu pajeet

>Intel fanboys buy expensive CPUs to play at 1080p while laughing at AMD fanboys for being poor
At 1440p it makes no difference and AMDs new Zen 2 fucking crushes Intel

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>get i7 8700k
>spend 90% of game time playing AOE2

I am kinda of an oldie but my first pc in 1998 used intel, then around 2003 i switch to AMD, it was obviously much more smooth and faster, but recent years intel has been all the talk of the cpu scene, I guess AMD caught up and intel is slacking like you said. Might get a new amd pc by 2020.

>spent all weekend picking out parts for a new computer with a 3700x
>when I finally get the nerve to buy, discover that the 3700x is sold out everywhere.

Oh well...

OY

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Same, oh well I'll just buy silver and chainlink until it's available.

If AMD didn't release their first gen 6 core cpu. I'm sure Intel will keep selling us their quad core cpu until 2020.

Literally 15 years of 4 core cpu from i3 to i7. The fuck.

And prior to the release of Ryzen cpus all games games are made to play great with intel cpus strong single core processing.

Hope there's another competing company to drive the prices even lower.

As a NEET with a little savings and a fear of the real world, I don't need this shit...

I actually own an 8700k, but even I can tell that AMD is the better buy right now. If you think paying hundreds of dollars more (CPU cost + higher mobo costs) so you can get an extra 5 fps is worth it, go ahead. I game at 1440p so the difference in CPU strength is a non-issue, and at 1080p where the difference is somewhat noticeable, that will be offset by the fact that you have more money to put to a better GPU, which will give you far better yields in terms of FPS.
Like these guys said, you can't call AMD users poor if you're basing your opinions on 1080p gaming. At 1440p you would have to be a complete retard to care about a 2 fps boost when you can go for a better GPU and monitor.

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Get a job bro. Just wagecuck for 50 years lol.

Noticed that a lot of their benchmarks runs RAM at 2666 for Intel boards even though everyone runs XMP which is an Intel profile everyone uses.

So why are they purposely gimping memory when it plays a key roll in latency and bandwidth benchmarks that are often synthetic?

Are they paid to do it?

Yeah man it's a conspiracy.

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youtube.com/watch?v=SY2g9f7i5Js
Yet AMD still loses in games.
You're on Yea Forums, so you should probably rethink your /g/-retorts.

>MSI gtx 1060 6gig
>i5-9600k
>16g ddr4 @ 2400mhz
>2x256ssd
>1x2tb hdd
>z390UD mobo
>coolermaster ml240
>g skill ripjaws rgb mechanical keyboard
>logitech g502 mouse
>shithouse monitor
>simple white case with black tempered glass panel
>windows mixed reality lul
950 bucks Australian dollars 3 months ago
Good or shit?

>buying intel post based 6700k
zoinks i hope you don't catch fire broski.

I could call you fanboy too, but I don´t go that route. I would rather inform you, so let´s go.

i7 9700F and i7 9700 (both non K), cost 310€ right now. They clock 4,8ghz across all cores with a Z370 motherboard (max the non K chip will go). It works with the stock Intel cooler that comes with those CPUs (unlike the K versions), but it will be loud, just like the AMD one, so you better buying a 20€ M9i to make it quieter. Plus on a Z370/Z390 chipset you overclock ram kits easily to 4000mhz, no stretch.

This solution completly smokes AMD on every game, and costs the same.

Now think again about what you just said.

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ya amudhut boy ok

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And God said "yea, let there be Grizzly Conductonaut and aftermarket IHS' so my people shall not perish in a housefire which Intel hath created"

>CPU alone is more expensive than a PS4 or Xbox One

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So far I've just been waiting for a sudden death, or some similar life-changing event. I'll probably keep waiting.

Serious question, why is that the case? Don't le spooky jew man me xD unless that's actually the case. Then go ahead.

16 gigs of ddr4 is as expensive as an xbox, so what are you trying to say?

>Better performance costs more

GPU is more important, for vidya.
Intel is shit, get Ryzen.

still shitty drivers

cope.

youtube.com/watch?v=SY2g9f7i5Js

Reading would be your friend

>7 year old hardware
>vidya like edf 5 chokes along at 15fps
>games severely downgraded for 'console optimization'

what are you trying to say son?

You can buy a 1600 for 100 bucks and it'll be light years ahead of the piece of shit CPU in the PS4

>spends 4x as much or more
>plays the same games

wow

>I have no argument or facts, and I must spam

Make it less obvious, shill (if not shill, then you're retarded).

wtf. put more effort into your shit attempts at trolling.

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>spends 4x as much or more
>plays the same games at more than 4x the performance and resolution.

buy whatever but good god don't buy unsoldered shit

not worth it, bro. waste of money.

>playing vidya at 15fps
not worth tbqh, not to mention the infinitely larger catalogue of pc vidya
Thinking you're a poorfaggot who has no choice but to play console vidya so comfort yourself by assuming a lot yet knowing little

>the poorfag argument

I was waiting for it.

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>i7 9700F and i7 9700
>This solution completly smokes AMD on every game, and costs the same.

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>half the cost of consoles
>same performance of PC

Why bother with anything else?

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How is something that is giving your MORE performance and graphical fidelity per $$$ a waste of money?

Buying something for $400 that offers 0.25x
vs
Buying something for $1600 that offers 1.50x + isn't limited to dumbed down gaming.

You're not posting in this thread on your console, so why did you waste money when you say it is a waste of money?

You're on a video games board son.
Why compromise? If you truly loved vidya you'd get the best system you could to enjoy it at its maximum potential, not low poly retopped assets and hemmed in draw distances to 'get a feel' of what the game is like on console.
I'm not rich cunt, I mow lawns for a living.

You need many cores to stop stuttering, because Windows just like to steal CPUs, and if you don't have at least a core free for it, the game WILL stutter.

Switch is the most expensive console to date when it comes to performance and graphics per dollar.

And on the other side of the spectrum lies PC with best performance per dollar. Doing what prison hardware (exclusives) does, but way better.
youtube.com/watch?v=arJmNVP0PLo

based lawn mowing user

>same performance of PC
First, no it will be not even close to a real PC, due the huge latency variation the internet have.
Secondly you don't have the FREEDOM of a PC.
Third, this gives the publishers the power to completely erase games from existence.

PC playing Switch games at 8K

Let's get some numbers
4K is 4x the resolution of 1080p
8K is 4x the resolution o 4K
8K is 12x the resolution of 720p which the Switch runs at

The Switch cost $300
The price of a Switch is comparable to a PC costing $3600 if you want it to be equally priced per performance.

The Switch is the least performing console for it's price.

It's just a intel-aviv cope. They need ridiculous setups like using a 2080ti on medium settings at 1080p in order to see a couple frames difference in a couple games when comparing intel's and amd's offerings.

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Not to mention the fact that with a PC, you can use it for other things besides games, and you have the benefits of a larger library, emulation, you can pirate, greater customization on a hardware and software level, higher frame rates, etc.

Pretty much. 9700k is the best cpu for gaming atm. The 3800x and 3700x are about 5% worse but their multi-threading makes them better at everything else.

>Not to mention the fact that with a PC, you can use it for other things besides games
Indeed. I covered that here Yup.
Both choices are priced good, so it's down to which you use your PC for the most.

Nintendo has been absolute dogshit when it comes to performance:price since the Wii. Before that, they used to offer quite powerful hardware for good prices. But then starting with the Wii, they just starting shilling generation-old tech, and marking it up while keeping it just ever-so-slightly cheaper than the actual current-gen consoles, thus tricking people into thinking they were getting a "deal".

Yeah, 350 for a fucking Wii U vs 400 for a PS4 back in 2013 was totally a deal .Or how about when they tried selling 3DS for goddamn 250 dollarydoos.
I miss the old nintendo that cared about cutting the bullshit and giving quality hardware at good prices.

I bought an i5-9600k when it came out. I doubt I'll need to upgrade for a significant amount of time. Honestly cpu technology would have to fundamentally change for this to matter within the next 10 years.

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I feel like I'm seeing the same shit with CPU's. The only thing that came out recently that made me upgrade were the RTX cards because it was more than a simple speed upgrade. CPU's are fucking boring, once you get a good OC you can stick with them for 4-6 years.

So is this a halfway decent build? I've put together 2 PCs at this point but I always feel overwhelmed with all the options and I know I end up spending more than I should for what I want out of it

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Yeah, when it comes to CPUs for gaming, if you're upgrading more than once per console generation, you're doing it wrong. Rule of thumb is to just use your CPU for many years until it finally starts bottlenecking, and then choose at that time what looks like the best value.
I last bought a CPU back in 2011 with sandy bridge 2500k, and that fucker has been great, but finally showing its age. And just as I'm considering upgrading, the ryzens come out and are looking really good, so I'll probably get a 3600.

>7nm vs 14nm
>about equal performance
yikes, as soon as intel gets on 10nm AMD is finished

a tiny 1080p monitor for that beast?

It smells like shit in here.

Get 3200 Mhz RAM.
Imo you should also get a 5700XT GPU instead, use that money to buy a 9900K then.
The 5700XT is almost at 2080 level and costs way less, however you will likely keep your CPU much longer, so getting the most powerful gaming CPU possible right now will be a wiser purchase longterm.

>as soon as intel gets on 10nm
any year now...

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>5700XT
Nobody should be buying that, at least not yet. While it's definitely looking like a really good card, only the blower reference design is out right now. Shouldn't get it until after we see the partner variants. Not sure why AMD decided to make everyone wait a month.

Yeah i agree, i should have mentioned that.
user should definitely wait for third party versions with better designs.

>3700x+RTX 2080
>1080p
Why would you buy such high powered hardware and waste it on 1080p? With those components you are well into 1440p 144hz gaming range. My build is similar in power to yours. I have an 8700K + 1080ti, and I have an Acer Predator XB271HU. It is 1440p 144hz (with option for 165hz) IPS with GSYNC, and while it costed me $750 CAD used, it actually lets me take advantage of my build. Make sure that whatever monitor you get has GSYNC, or Freesync with NVIDIA compatibility. Also, try to buy your GPU used to save money. Just test before you buy. This goes for other components such as RAM, fans, Cases etc. Even a used CPU is a good way to save if you can see it working
>3000mhz memory
Ryzen feeds off of fast RAM. Get 3200mhz minimum, and 3600mhz if you can afford it, but 3200mhz is probably the best bang for your buck.
>850W PSU
I don't know what you could possibly need this much power for. Use a PSU wattage calculator tool and see how much you actually need. I doubt you will need more than 600-650W and that is still giving you plenty of headroom
>2080
You can get a used 1080ti for much less and get the same performance minus meme raytracing
>good CPU cooler, X570 mobo, X chip
So clearly you plan on overclocking, but please don't pay extra for overclocking hardware and then not do it. I see people buy intel K processors and not bother to overclock, so it's just wasted money

I don't know but every task where AMD "wins" is applications where EVERYONE runs the application in GPU acceleration anyway so I don't understand how the AMD processors are in any way considered good for "productivity".

As an example they use Blender rendering times as a benchmark, how fucking retarded do you have to be to not use your SUPERIOR NVIDIA GRAPHICS CARD to render.

>OS
Save yourself $105 and get that for free.

>Want a new GPU since my >970 is starting to show some age with new games
>Have to upgrade my CPU to accomidate new GPU
>Need a new motherboard to support new CPU
>Need new RAM sticks for new motherboard

Listen, I'm all about getting the best possible performance for all the latest vidya, but when did this scam begin.

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cringe

>another linkie
Tell me is it pure meme or that sergey guy actually legit.

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> you will likely keep your CPU much longer, so getting the most powerful gaming CPU possible right now will be a wiser purchase longterm.
honestly that's poor advice, because performance:price value scales terribly when it comes to CPUs, especially for vidya. You're getting like a 10% boost paying for a 500 dollar CPU as compared to a 200 dollar one.

I think it'd actually make more sense for someone to just get a 3600 now for 200, and then down the line when their CPU starts showing its age, either just upgrade to whatever is available then, OR get a really cheap high-end Zen2 (or future Zen3) which will save a ton of money and even keep the same AM4 socket.

>$105
What the flipping fuck.

I owned a 2700X + 2080 setup along with a 1440p Acer Predator XB271HU.

I sold the 2700X + mobo to a friend who has a 1st gen Ryzen mobo for chump change and bought the 9900k at $490 a couple of months ago.

Best purchase I made, the only reason I bought the 2700X was because Intel didn't have any 9th gen parts last year and the ones that exist were way overpriced.

The 2700X didn't offer me any real difference from my 4790k, other than the fact that it has 8-cores. Most games I play are still GPU dependent and I'm not a poser who pretends to do """real work""" on a gaming PC and I don't stream.

Even if Intel coughs up a new processor this year it wouldn't matter, most multiplat games will be developed for low-tier 8-cores for the next decade. The 2700X will probably be the bare minimum.

Draw calls.

Check the youtube video I linked. Crysis has a scene were a lot is rendered and the draw calls are seen to be in favor of the 16 thread AMD over the 8 thread Intel here.
But then again, the i9 would again top the charts in that area as well, but at a price.

The ram change isn't that frequent. That's just because of the switch from DDR3 to DDR4 a few years ago.
Also mobo socket changes aren't as bad with AMD, who usually keep the same socket around for a while. Intel really jews you over by constantly switching the sockets and forcing you to upgrade your mobo.

Having said all that, I upgrade my shit so infrequently that I don't mind it being a totally fresh build rather than an upgrade. Plus it means getting to keep around your old PC, which has its uses too.

>CPU
>price/performance
You are beyond fucking retarded if this is what you base buying a CPU around

Normally yes, it wouldn't be great advice since GPU price-to-performance normally scales fairly directly.
However, since the 5700XT is so close to the GPU he has currently selected, he basically loses no performance while getting a significantly stronger and more futureproof CPU.
Even when Zen 3 and the 10th Intel gen roll around the 9900K will still be close to the highest end offerings when it comes to gaming performance, so i'd say it's a decent purchase for user.

>i5
>2019
bruh

true, cybersecurity is another important factor.

>If you can use it for 4K, you must use it for 4K! Any less is a sin.
Maybe this is looking too far into the future, but I often it see as a form of 'futureproofing. Sticking to a lower resolution would allow your card to function at games with high settings for a longer period. Of course for starters, hence my first sentence, that's assuming the card last that long depending on other usage factors.

Just never understood this immediate presumption when someone wants to stick with 1080p. Oh no. How dare they? It's as bad as 144p!

holy shit amd vs intel threads may actually be lower quality than normal console war threads. is it the cost of products that makes people this insane?

Not to mention having to switch to Win10. That's the biggest holdback in my case. I want to stick with 7 as long as possible.

It's just that buying the highest-end GPUs for 1080p gaming is needless overkill. And also "futureproofing" never works because you always get a better value just going for a more reasonably priced offering to fit your needs now, and then upgrade to another reasonable card later on.

Or rather, sometimes futureproofing does happen, but it's usually a fluke and not the norm

You can trust an Indian, jews not so much.

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>i7 first gen v i5 3rd gen
lul, do you think all i7s are faster than all i5s?

Same, but the switch is inevitable user

>I don't know what you could possibly need this much power for.

I rather have a PSU running cool and with lower load than a PSU screaming for it's life while it boils itself on full load.
People forget that the power supply is among the most important things in the computer, yet cheap out on it, which is both retarded and stupid.
A PSU is most efficient at around 50% load, and most PSU can run passive when using lower load as well.

just got this ordered with the last part arriving on monday
pcpartpicker.com/list/gNWFcY

I know I didn't do the best on some of the prices but overall I'm confident that I'll get what I want out of the computer and I made that money back the next day anyways. The only monitor I have is 1080p so I'll have to go shopping for that soon. I'm pretty excited to see ff14 and mordhau on this compared to my old computer from 2012.

Personally I just like partaking because intel has been absolute dogshit recently, so it's funny seeing their shit get pushed in finally. That's what happens when years of unrivaled success and zero real competition lead to you getting lazy, iterative, firing a bunch of your developers because you were busy spending all the money on social justice initiatives, and not bothering to fix the "unintentional" exploits giving everyone's data to mossad.

But other than that, console wars regarding PC manufacturers is silly. Just buy whatever is offering the best value at the time that you're upgrading.

>good evening I am calling from your internet provider you have a problem with your connection and we need your password
lmao

Both CPU and GPU performance increases are slowing down significantly while prices are increasing with every generation.
Futureproofing was a silly concept 10 years ago, but now it's legitimately something you should consider when building a PC, unless you plan to upgrade frequently anyway because you always need cutting edge performance at the highest resolutions.

He is cube

Yeah, that's annoying. I believe there are ways to still boot win7 on ryzen, but it requires some tweaking.

I might finally switch to 10, but I'll probably use the LTSC version that allegedly prevents auto-updates and spyware/bloatware. Not sure how legit that is, but it's worth a shot.

Only old boomers fall for that shit, jews are way more deceiving.

doesn't detract from it being extremely dishonest shit for brains

I'd agree if not for the ridiculous price scaling of Nvidia's current high-end offerings like the 2080ti. There's no way something like that will ever win out in long-term value over modest upgrades.

idk, I'm hoping things finally start to settle down now that AMD seems to be releasing some decent GPUs finally. I'm goddamn tired of nvidia trying to pretend that the temporary memecoin bubble prices are the new normal.

>Still use the good ol' 2500k

Why the fuck would I use anything else?

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I actually just made that same leap recently, it's bretty gud.

Pajeet
>Hello my friend, Microsoft here. We need you name, address, and ss#
>Lmao fuck off shitskin *hang up phone*

Rothstein
>AIPAC, literal foreign influence
>Controls the diamond business and pricing
>Makes it illegal to question the Holocaust
>Controls Hollywood
>Gave Pajeet your number for pennies on the pound

ah fuck, I forgot about the simple fact that I'm going to have to use that pile of shit.

2500k is excellent, but it's finally starting to show its age. Not that current games are unplayable with it by any means, but you get stutters and framerate spikes.

the thing has served me quite well though. Apparently 2500ks and OCable mobos hold their value, but I'm going to keep mine even after upgrading. It'll be nice having a secondary PC dedicated to playing stuff from 8th gen and before

And it only took almost a fucking decade

we're all doomed to switch regardless sooner or later. Security updates are ceasing at the end of the year, and all newer chips are going to lock us 7chads out.

The good news is that at least there are ways to get rid of the bloatware and make games run just as well as on 7. DX12 is a meme though.

>4K is 4x the resolution of 1080p
>8K is 4x the resolution o 4K
>8K is 12x the resolution of 720p which the Switch runs at
8K is 36x 720p.

1080p = 2.25x~ 720p
4K = 4x 1080p / 9x 720p
8K = 4x 4K / 36x 720p

>it's been 10 years
>CPUs are still around 3 or 4ghz
>limitations of silicon holding us back
fuck man, I miss when CPU speeds literally doubled every 12 months.
10ghz CPUs when?
Just slapping more cores onto it doesnt do shit when most programs/games are only single threaded or dual-threaded anyway.

Yup, I knew the thing would last me a while when I got mine in 2011 after everyone was gushing about it, but I honestly never expected to use it for 8 fucking years. Not sure if that speaks to how durable the 2500k is, or just to how stagnant PC gaming has been when it comes to hardware.

If you want you can get the Win10 key for $5

But that's not true, 4K is two times 1080p.
4K = 2160p

What's the next 2500k? Without breaking the bank I want something bulletproof, if that still exists.

>4K is two times 1080p
I knew people on Yea Forums were retarded but come on now, you're not even trying.

I'm reading into how to cut the fat out right now, still doesn't make me feel happy about it.

ditch the case, windows10, monitor, keyboard, mouse, HDD and power supply
you can just reuse the ones you already have

square-cube law. a doubling of the vertical pixel count results in a 4x increase in resolution. 4K is a 2x2 grid of 1080ps

But speaking of 4k, it's an absolute meme. In normal circumstances it's past the point of actually being able to discern a difference. 1440p is the sweet spot for PC monitors, and honestly even that might be overkill for people playing on TVs at normal viewing distances from the couch.

>10ghz CPUs when?
Never.
but 10 CORES by 2023.

4K is 3840×2160.
Please tell me how that's four times 1920 x 1080 you fucking giga mongoloid retard.

Ryzen gang

And he keeps digging...
3840*2160 = 4*1920*1080

Hard to say. I'm hoping the 3600 lasts a generation of gaming. Although with the way CPU development is these days, there really isn't muc room for significant gains from users doing major OCs anymore.

1920x1080 = 2073600
3840*2160 = 8294400
2073600 * 4 = 8294400

Please be trolling. Why don't you try actually solving those two multiplication equations you just typed out and compare them

>cpu
>having anything to do with resolution

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Just tell me what to buy Yea Forums I’m building a PC.

btfo roflmao

>doesn't list budget
>doesn't list his desired resolution/refresh rate
>doesn't list his current build or whether he's going completely from scratch

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>im not a fucking retard who accepts stuttering in my games

So you don't buy intel products?

>ryzen 3700
>rtx 2060 super
There, now you have a pc that's better than next gen consoles.

Just bought a 1070ti to for my 2600k. GPU will still be the bottleneck most of the time.

1st gen i7 comin through.

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>suggesting RTX
bruh, look at the prices and the benchmarks compared to the new amd cards.

Eh, it's still a good card and they should have a price drop soonish.
Although the 5700xt is still cheaper than the 2060 super.

>Just slapping more cores onto it doesnt do shit when most programs/games are only single threaded or dual-threaded anyway.
That's not how things works, architecture is more important. An old Northwood at 3.8 GHz will get blown by a Sandy Bridge at the same frequency and the later will get blown by Coffee Lake, even if you consider a single core for each... The per core performance keeps improving. Yes it's not as fast as before but it's pretty much the same for all tech at this point.

We went from having 2GB HDDs and 1MB VGA cards in 1995 to 20GB HDD / 32 MB VGA in 2000 for roughly the same amount of money. You don't see SSD price per GB decrease by a factor of 10 in 5 years anymore just like your typical graphic card memory wasn't multiplied by 32 in the past 5 years.

So what the entry amd that is similar to an i5? I been living under a rock lately and have no fucking idea how far cpu have come

Whatever the newest AMD Ryzen CPU is
Whatever motherboard can fit that CPU
Get the upcoming RX 5700 graphics card next month (but not stock from AMD, wait for other manufacturers to come out with their own variants that will have a better fan on the thing).

There is no reason to get either Intel or Nvidia in the immediate future. They've fallen way behind.

>he didn't bought the Ryzen 5 1600 and instead got an Intel glued together i5 7600k

LOL!

youtube.com/watch?v=97sDKvMHd8c&t=661s

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You really can't figure this one out yourself?

Ryzen 5. They follow more or less the same naming scheming of the i3/5/7/9

That's going to be my setup. Feels good not having to pay intel-aviv or jewvidia a dime for once.

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Ryzen 5 3600X is equal to the most recent i5-9600K in almost every aspect, including power and price.

SIRS PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND BUY INTEL THANK YOU SIRS

this, only anti-semites don't buy intel

I'll buy which ever one is best for games, which will likely be AMD in 2 years, but certainly not now.

in theory amd is better, in practice a lot of games have problems with the new ryzens and some other stuff needs a good single thread CPU

I don't think so, you scammer madachode, quit trying to get me to buy iTunes gift cards at the grocery store for you

>cpu
>games
Don't fall for the memes, cpu isn't a bottleneck unless you have a shitty one. 2 more fps in 1080p is not worth thinking about.

thanks you sirs...

pelase dot he needful sirs...

>3600X
The non X gets to the same performance quite easily, spending the extra money for the x isn't worth it.

how did you get w7 to work on 8th gen cpu?
my install update-blocked with my i7 7700k, i ran the update hack and it only made it much worse

i mean i'm happy with w10 ltsc, but i'm really curious how your rig is running

>cpu is heavily bottlenecking my gpu
>can't get a better one because of my outdated motherboard
fuck you lazy shit cpu, FUCK YOU I CAN'T GET 60 FPS ON ANYTHING

This, there'a a reason they have to do ridiculous comparisons like using RTX2080ti on medium settings at 1080p to even assess a difference in gaming performance at all. Under 99% of realistic circumstances, your GPU will always be the bottleneck. The only relevant gaming CPU comparisons are for CPU-heavy games like total war and civilization.

Unless you have a gigantic amount of money i don't see how paying 100 bucks more for 5 more frames (at 1080p mind you) without accounting for cooling (because high performance intel processors run hotter than a nuclear reactor when overclocked and dont come with a cooler) is a good idea

can I go to amd from intel to amd by just changing my parts and not doing anything else?
I'm a build brainlet and none of what I'm googling makes any sense to me. I'm on win10 if it matters.

he means getting a fucking an i5 you 3rd world shit eater. Can't afford an i9 to flex on your 1050ti friends?

GPU, yes. CPU? No, you'll need a new motherboard, and depending new ram.

Intel and amd use different motherboards. You'll need a new one if you switch.

>got a new computer
>right before 8th gen cpus came out

I made such a fucking mistake lads holy FUCK

at least I'll update to 16 cores soon when new gen comes out.

*updates your microcode*
*disables hyperthreading*
shhh....

great post

I’m still using the i7-4790k 4ghz. Do I really even need to upgrade when it might not even be worth it? I’d have to buy another mobo just to upgrade my CPU, since I’m still using the asus z97-a/usb3.1. Right now, I’m just slapping an rtx 2060 and more ddr3 ram into it to tide me over. Just looking for 1080p 60frames on my games anyways anyways.

At this point, you might as well wait until AM5 and DDR5 come out. No point in upgrading the mobo now when a socket change from AMD is on the horizon.

Depends. If you want an AMD CPU, you'll need an AMD motherboard. If you want an AMD GPU, sure, just stick it in there.

*re-enables it because it's not actually an issue seeing that there are exactly zero uses of it in the wild*

The 7th generation of intel CPU’s has to be the one of the worst CPU releases right next to the FX lineup. It aged like milk, and I feel bad for anyone stuck on 1151 (non CL).

>DDR4-3000
Get something faster. Specs page for this mobo says it supports up to 4000, but 3733 should five the best performance. Higher than that it's 2:1 divider (pic related).
>videocard
I've got a MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk X. It's a hybrid card. I can OC it +100 core +1000 memory with just two case fans, and the temps stay pretty stable around 60-65C while it keeps boosting for long play sessions.
You can get a EVGA hybrid too, there're good reviews. It's on sale on Amazon now. It's still 100$ more than your choice, but should be well worth it.
Hard to say about memetracing performance since there's just 4 games, two of which have shitty RT implementation. I can run Exodus on high settings with 2560*1080 around 70-90 fps (depending on location and amount of action; Taiga can dip down to 50-55 at worst), which is pretty good to me.
>SSD
You can get an NVME drive for the same price from WD. Difference in loading speeds in games is negligible, but even if it's a slight improvement for the say price, why not?
>PSU
You don't really need 850W. I have 600W for 2080/2600, it's more than enough.
>Windows 10
Just why? If you build 2 PCs before you can probably just use the same license.
>monitor
As others said you might think about 1440p. 1080p ultrawide is also an option. I've got one and I love it. 16:9 feels like 4:3 after switching to 16:9 back then. It requires tinkering some games, but it's worth it. Extra screen space is also useful for working with multiple windows.
Look for a G-Sync or G-Sync compatible Freesync monitor.

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with the advent of VR and Wii u emulation, it looks like the I7 meme has finally come to furition

my i5 7600k is dated but next comp I will definitely buy an I7. definitely going to take my time on the wait considering how fuckin shit it is to swap motherboards and essentially rebuild the computer.

they are both bad

Oh god finally a PC related thread so I don't have to go to that shithole called /g/.

Quick question, is there an adapter for Wifi that can be configured on its own to access a network but send the internet connection via Ethernet to fool an old computer and make it think it's using a cable? I don't have my router in my room but I wanna shitpost from this bad motherfucker right here.

Also USB Wifi receivers don't have drivers for something this old and I think I fucked up with reconnecting the Airport Card module when I cleaned it up inside, so that's not an option either.

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Just buy a long Ethernet cable and run it to your room. Or a WiFi repeater, if you don't want a cable.

>implying I get stuttering with my 3700

Should I be running a new ryzen or 9700k with ddr4-3200 or 3600 memory?
And what's better for a single card computer, a 750w gold psu or a 650w platinum, or skip out on the platinum and get a 650w silver/gold?

>Just buy a long Ethernet cable and run it to your room
Nigga it's in another room, both doors won't close anymore if I do that unless I drill holes in the walls and mount it to the ceiling or some shit.
>Or a WiFi repeater
Those allow you to use Ethernet? I thought they were only used to extend the wifi range

well AMD was worse for years and intelcucks never let AMDfags hear the end of it.

Now AMD is actually doing better than intel and all hell is breaking loose.

>When Intel is on 10nm
AMD will be on 5nm. And both will be fresh nodes, not 14nm+++++++ vs 7nm 1.0. Intel is fucked for at least 2 years

How about a powerline adapter?

Would one of these cheap pieces of shit work? It's $15 with free next day shipping, don't wanna spend more than that for my shitposting purposes.

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Yes, the higher number of security vulnerabilities, larger size of power consumption, bigger die size, and higher price means it's better.

For 1080p 60fps 4790k would probably be fine for the next 5 years. "CPU is more important" is a marketing meme.

only for CS:GO, the least optimized game in the industry

You gain 2% more performance from Intel top CPU vs top AMD, for more than double the price. Are you retarded?

9900K and 3900X are both $500

4 times niggabitch. Kys

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>4096

Because 100pixels sure proved that fullhd isn't 4 times as small. Happy now?

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on recent benchmarks with ryzen 9 gpu's are the bottleneck now.

AMD still can't make decent single core performance. Which is the only thing that matters in vidya.

Why isn't your PC watercooled?

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Does this dude just hook it up to his cold water plumbing?

and yet this thread will be pruned

Because custom loops are an expensive meme. I like AIOs tho.

Well for aoe2 it's overkill, but I would assume that cpu is important for some of the new and taxing strategy games - like total war. I remember crusader kings II performance having issues after they expanded the map and added more shit for the cpu to work with.

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>tfw still a i5 4670k CPUlet

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Jonah had a rough life

Hey, me too. On r9 380 4gb. For older games it's fine, for 2017+ games ultra settings make it painful.

Nextgen games will use a fuckton of threads. Buying a 8 thread CPU right now is ultra retarded

>$400 cpu
>$500 gpu
>$700 monitor
>realtek hd audio
dont tell me youre one of these people Yea Forums

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>suddenly

>have Ryzen 3 1300x
>only had it for 1.5 years
>see system requirements for Control
>it's now the bare minimum required CPU
shit that was fast.

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Do you need more than 8? I'm still on that.

>tfw the i7 4790k that i got for only 250 yurobucks years ago is still more than enough for games

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Same. Overclocked to 4.5 with some cheap non-stock cooling. Hope it will last for few more years.

None. Jewtel won't make the same mistake ever again.

Minimum system requirement are mostly bullshit.

Should I care about upgrading an i5 3570? I never bothered because I'd have to essentially upgrade 90% of my entire system.

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ok you faggots,

i got a 1070ti and a 144hz 1080p monitor, with a ryzen [email protected] and 16GB 2800 cas16 ram

i want to get the most out of the 1070ti and i feel like spending around 200 dollerydoos, what should i get: Ryzen 3600 or 16GB 3200 cas14 ram?

the motherboard is the MSI Carbon Pro x470 so i'm good on ryzen 3xxx series compatibility

Partially because of economies of scale, but more because consoles subsidise their hardware with overpriced games that they get a cut of. It’s a loss leader.

>$200
2600x
>$250
9600k
>$300
3700
>$350
3700x
>$400
3800x
>$450
save your money and get a 3900x

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>epic crying wojak with company beanie template #26
Not an argument

memory. wait for the 3600x to go on sale for around $199 later this year.

would also wait for a sale on that 3200 14, i'm sure even with that timing you should be able to find a kit under $100 during a big sale.

AM5 isn't until 2021.

How's that working out for you, motherfucker?

how are you posting your posts from 2012

>$300
>3700
there is no 3700 tho

not at 1440p you shitposter

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I5-2500k master race. Seriously tho i'm looking to upgrade. What do I buy? I just play vidya.

same situation as you. gonna upgrade to either the 3600 or maybe a higher variant if there ends up being a sale.

Not that user but i've been using wufuc

Fuck yeah. I'm eyeing the 3600 also, but I can still wait until the newer games come out.

Eh, we won't really really see "next gen" stuff for a year or two tbqh. And I'm confident the 3600 will be more than enough for those games anyway.
Technically I could stick with 2500k, but I am noticing stuttering/dips here and there caused by it, and I also want to upgrade to a 1440p/144hz monitor

My current FX6300 have served me well for the past four and a half years, but next time I upgrade I'm going intel.

imagine buying a vishera when intel was going strong, and then buying intel when amd is going strong. user has a hard life

>AMD going strong
That's what people told me then so I'm not believing them now.

When doing a new build, always splurge on the best CPU (Within reason...no workstation CPU) as it takes damn near a decade until a CPU becomes obsolete for gaming. My second rig has in I7 3770k with a slight OC and it's still playing all games at 1080p with no problems (along with a GTX 980).

i have a 7600k and a 1080. should i see some improvement in frametimes and frame stability if i switch to a 7700k? that's as high as i can go since i use a z270 motherboard. playing at 2k

>Intel
>in the year of Ryzen 3
Kek

Why did I sing it in my head

>tfw 2500k
>had it since release
>about to upgrade to a R5 3600
Feels gud mang

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Ram speed literally doesn't matter for intel. There's even a thread in reddit where intel will disown your chip if you tell them you used xmp.

Tfw waiting on my Xeon e5 2697 v4 18 core CPU and my ram

The whole shit stigma that your CPU always takes the longest ordering PC parts is so fucking true rn

I'm wondering how it will do gaming, I know I sacrificed performance but needed the cores for 3d modeling/photoshop

It does at 4k

Does Ryzen perform as well for emulating as Intel processors yet? Because that'll be the thing to finally make me switch over.

The new Ryzen 3 CPUs should. They have good single core performance on par with Intel now.

>rtx 2060 super
that shit is a scam. Unless you're going for a 2070 super or a 2080, the amd navi cards are the best option.

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>have Phenom II x4 965
>upgrade to i5-3570k because roomate swapped parts, and had a pretty noticable performance increase according to benchmarks.
>feels literally the fucking same.

Anyone ever upgrade a part, only to feel like performance is worse?

okay i'm a big retard but is that physical limit to how small that shit can get anywhere close by now?
or will we eventually end up seeing intel or amd market their 850 picometer tech?

This. And it's great for the consumer. It will lead to amd getting more money to compete against Intel.

youtube.com/watch?v=zdCi_r_lm7o

Just see the benchmarks and check the prices. The Ryzen 3600 is the new i5 2500k.

Yes, but not on Silicon. For now, the next step is 3d memory stacking.

How significant will multicore be over single core speed?

Both next gen consoles will have a Zen2 8 core 16 threads cpu, and even now you can see better and more stable framerates on 6 core cpus, so, if you're going to upgrade, get at least a 6 core 12 thread cpu.

yes

modern vidya is being threaded properly for years now. it's getting better and better, we're now going through another major push towards multicore programming with current gen consoles, and next gen is probably going to take it even further. it's already good, and it's only going to get better from now on. still, it's a very vauge question that demands nothing more than vague answer

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I swapped my i5 out for a cheap xeon of the same gen which is equivalent to the i7 of the same gen and even though its lower clocked than my i5 I get better/more stable performance in most games.

um user, I just got 128gb for 400, 16 is like 65-70 bucks

games don't effectively utilize multicore cpus because """developers"""" cant code anymore.

it took what, a decade for games to use 4 cores as standard, only because the game engines started having it built in.

this is why you never saw people buying old xenons for gaming. they used them for cheap editing boxes. for gaming and only gaming you want the best IPC for the best price. AMD is closing on IPC and intel is fucking retarded pricing.

But Linus told me to buy AMD

On this occasion, faggot Linus is right.

These anons are correct

>suddenly

>75 funbucks for a cooler on a cpu that doesn't really overclock
'no'

linus is on amd because its actually comparable because of threadripper. I remember his AMD FX/R9 290x/7970 videos where he was throwing shade

>13 hour old thread
Is Yea Forums dying

having a good cooler is good, you get quiet pc and lots of headroom even if you're not overclocking. also, every previous ryzen could generate fuck ton of heat if you overclock it to the limit all core and 3xxx couldn't possibly be any different. My 1700 is getting pretty close to safe temps in stress tests when you get it to 3.9ghz all core, and i'm using mugen 5.

>get i7 6700k 4 years ago
>play RuneScape and Doki Doki Literature Club

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no user, there is a 360mm aio watercooler rn for 94, just get that instead

There's barely any overclocking potential for the new gen, they're already pretty much at their limits out of the box
The stock cooler for the 3700x+ is also half decent, if you're using headphones for gayman you don't really hear it
There's also quite a lot of room between $0 and $75 for a third party cooler

depends on what you mean by bad and good
intel just like nvidia always made the better products, but they also always were bad guys
amd is the underdog who just very recently started catching up

Will a 3600 bottleneck a 5700xt? 1440p 144hz need a new build

hell yeah brother just whipped up a new rig with a fresh new ryzen and rtx 2080ti super

cant wait to play all these great pc games that are blowing up right now, like fortnite and league of legends

i've googled around to prove you wrong, but it seems like you're right. seems like OCing 3xxx it won't give user any decent gains.

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because it's gonna be worse than air cooling unless you build a highend setup yourself for $300+.
The prebuilt $50-$150 setups are a meme.

couldn't you just try to oc your ram?

nonsense and crazy talk.

I thought about that but decided to go for a B450 + Ryzen 2600 combo instead.

been preddy gud so far

My 6700K is still tooting along. I'll wait until CPUs become better because right now they're not impressive at all

You know things are bad for intel when the ONLY response their un-paid shills on /g/ have to Ryzen 3 advocacy is "Yea well I can pay over $100 more for less than 5% increase perfomance so intel actually won!"

Opinions vary but I'm actually fine with that. It was fun in and of itself to try to eke stuff out, and there was a time where OC and messing around could yield enormous gains. But as processes have shrunk the wiggle room has too and frankly I'd just assume have something that is reasonably priced and great out of box each and every time and has a full warranty on it. Since at least for now AMD aren't being faggots like Intel and having tons of artificially product line differentiation and pricing bullshit I'm not mad if they just tweak it as high as they can out of the factory and then sell it.

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