Why do people think being relevant matters to get into Smash when they got in and are still in?
Ice Climbers
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ice climbers fucking suck
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>– Smash tend to have characters from older series. But just old characters wouldn’t make Smash worthy. If there is no new series, then the selection of the characters will be from the old series. (p199)
Because Sakurai outright said it. Old characters aren't ruled out but if you're new and relevant then your chances are significantly higher.
Real talk, why the fuck are Ice Climbers playable,Mr Game and Watch, R.O.B and Duck Hunt playbale ? They're irrelevant characters from a dead franchises
Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy, but these ugly eskimos who have only 1 game, gets to be playable?
Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this
Real talk, why the fuck are Ice Climbers, Mr Game and Watch, R.O.B and Duck Hunt playable? They're irrelevant characters from a dead franchises
Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy, but these ugly eskimos who have only 1 game, gets to be playable?
Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this
As does the game of the same name, why the fuck are they in?
>WAAAAAH WHY DON'T PEOPLE THINK MY RANDOM SIDE MARIO CHARACTER WON'T GET IN WHEN [MAIN CHARACTERS FROM COMPLETELY UNIQUE IP] GOT IN?
fuck off genofag
You said these characters are irrelevant when being relevant doesn't matter to be in smash.
Characters like that were probably put in because they could make some interesting movesets, items and levels out of their franchise for the game.
Lolwut, Geno is nowhere in the first post dumbass
>COMPLETELY UNIQUE IP
Yeah in two-thousand and fucking one, now nearly 20 years later their not as unique anymore.
Smash doesn’t need NES shit anymore, (both first and third party) it’s more like a meme that Sakurai made that should be killed in the next smash.
Sakurai is into twincest. That's why they're in.
Bomber man is also old as dirt and even though he had a game in 2017 nobody is talking about him. Getting an assist trophy is better than nothing honestly.
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Ice Climber was the first game I've ever played. Back then when the iron curtain fell my parents bought an NES with Ice Climber bundle for my big bro and it was in circa 95 when I got his NES, because he got an SNES.
I played Ice Climber and Castlevania all day. Never beat it lol. Still baffled about how there never was a sequel.
give me 5 reasons why he shouldn't be in
He was actually considered for melee as an nes rep. But they had no idea how to make a move set for him, so ICs got put in instead.
Name a more uninspired moveset than the Ice Climbers'
All 4 of the marth clones.
>all use moves they know
>meanwhile Ice Climbers use ice
Try again
Ice Climbers are a special case in that they were included BECAUSE they were irrelevant.
Sakurai included them in Melee because he wanted a character that harkened back to the one-off NES era of games like Clu Clu Land, Urban Champion, Excitebike, etc. He had a list of candidates for the position like Bubbles and Balloon Fighter but ultimately went with Ice Climbers because he saw potential in their duo based gameplay. But the first and primary reason they were included was because he wanted an NES rep.
>flip phone
that's an old piece of art, huh
A game that sold well, he should be playable whereas shitty retro characters should be demoted to assist trophies.
Too late for him now, the next game should just remove the retro characters all together, nobody plays them anymore and they’re not as unique as they used to be, he’d bring nothing new.
Marth unironically fights a lot more like Link in FE3/1 than he does like "Marth" does in Smash. He's also using a weird thrusting style, which would make sense if he was using a rapier but he's using his sword Falchion so he should be slashing. He also doesn't have his shield, the Binding Shield (Fire Emblem).
Well, it IS based on Lucky Star which came out 12 years ago
I love the Ice Climbers!
Mr Game and Watch, R.O,B, Duck Hunt,
the answer is pac-man
imagine if mario's forward smash was a goomba sprite
Well why couldn’t he be happy with them why did we get robotic operating faggot and retard hunt too, wouldn’t IC have been enough?
If the character is owned by nintendo and is old anything goes.
>not as unique as they used to be
who else has a second fully-functioning character with them?
>inb4 Rosalina
Luma cant grab items and has no AI, it's basically a weapon with eyes
No, Pac-Man is rather unique, he represents his game perfectly through his moveset and he represents the arcade era.!
I'm so fucking glad Urban Champion didn't get in.
That’s understandable, but did we really need one each game.
>no idea for a moveset
Easy peasy. Excitebiker, alike the game, would have a bike heat mechanic. Unlike in Excitebike, the heat would give you higher damage/speed, but would deal a certain % per in-game second. It's a risk/reward mechanic.
>Neutral B: Rev Up/Heat Expulsion
Excitebiker can rev up his bike when he's underneath a certain heat level to gain heat, or once he's past it, he can release it as an explosion, dealing heavy damage based on how much heat he has.
>Side B: Wheelie
Similar kind of move to Wario's, but more fast and not as flexible.
>Down B: OIl Slick
Excitebiker shoots an oil slick out of his exhaust pipe, which acts like Inkling's Ink Effect but still slows down the opponent once leaving it.
>Up B: Ramp
Excitebiker summons a ramp and rides right off of it.
Normals consists of some punches and physical attacks with the bike.
Aerials consist of aerial tricks.
Fuck off. That's some zoomer-tier opinion.
Honestly probably not but I'm not bothered by it much. But I can see the frustration for people who disagree with me I guess.
You guys aren't thinking big enough. The final DLC is going to be something designed around Hanafuda cards.
> First fighting game Nintendo ever made
> Doesnt want it in Smash
Retard
Most of the smash community is zoomers now, ultimate prioritised the boomers more so the next game will prioritise the zoomers more, be exciting retro/third party to be cut for most wanted first party characters.
Hope you don’t buy the next smash.
>game was shit
Phew.
The thing is, R.O.B and Duck Hunt weren't "retro reps" in the same way Ice Climbers were. They may of hailed from the same era, but they were, in Sakurai's words, "surprise characters". Same thing with Mr. Game & Watch.
And Piranha Plant is intended to be Ultimate's equivalent. Thus showing that these characters included for different reasons than Icies.