Total War: Three Kingdoms. Eight Princes DLC

>DLC focusing on the most BASED family in the Three Kingdoms
>Pisses off the chinese
>Possibility for Sima Gan
SIMA GANG GANG GANG

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>What's their review bombing about?
The setting. As the other user said, it is a shameful part of chinese history, with only one (1) of the princes not being a total cunt (and dying horribly for it) and ending to a lage period of devide, barbarian sackings, genocides and total misery until the european middle ages.

Plus "nanbam tribes wen" and stuff like that.

But its history still the same? If it happened it happened, man, european countries had their fair share of horrible times over the centuries, but you don't see their modern people revolt at depictions of it. What matters isn't that the past was bad, its that the present is better, I thought people understood this.

>3 kingdoms
>8 princes
what's the next? 1.4 billion chinks?

Open at your peril!!!

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Fatuous poster!
Fatuous poster!

Will the campaign be be as much of an overhaul as either of the Shogun 2 DLC or is this just a glorified reskin with a handful of new units?

Guards! Execute this bandit!

Then again, the web always gave a voice to most retards, so it is possible a quite share of chinks are interesed, if only because they don't have much media talking about it. (Plus the power fantasy to help the non-evil Sima prince in saving the realm from his brothers)

user what the fuck

SOMEONE CALL THE ETHICS DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW FUCK

STOP, YOU'RE GOING TO DIMINISH CA'S PRESENCE ON THIS WEBSITE!

>no liufags
Finally

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Ah yes. What a great setting. Just today I played as Changwang Zang and with my hero Chang Yu I went to assault the city of Chengti but then Chang Yi, the enemy lord, put up a really tough fight. So now Cheng Pi and Chang Wen could both be taking potshots of my capital at Chengdo. But at least the military advisor and one of those generals mentioned above are strong independent warrior women. How invigorating.

>thought these anons were just shitposting
>check the steam forums
>pic related
What the fuck? What did these guys even do that was worse than your typical warlord stuff, that they're still so hated today?
The trailer looked pretty well done too in my opinion

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They didn't. It's a made up vtard fantasy.

Really? I think I preferred by campaigns with Edward I, II, V, and VI against Richards IV-IX and sometimes XII, and the endless church bullshit from Pope Clement V, VI, VII, X, and X-2. What memorable and varied characters.

>that post
>Sima family shame
What now? What did these guys do that was so atrocious? Why specifically the Sima clan? I thought the big villain was the DONG, not the IMBECILES?

I think it's a select group of autists on par with Greek/Turkboos who don't want to hear shit about when they got shat on.

I won't buy...
*takes over your corporation*
8 princes cause
*kills africans to sell their organs*
Very shamefur perrioh
*colonizes your country*
Preshan laif
*makes gutter oil*

the absolute state of chinks lmao

butthurt chink detected

CA is truly incompetent. After the beastmen they swore they wouldn't do minicampaigns anymore. Then boom. Chinks said the same thing of wanting a more fleshed out main campaign instead of just more characters to in a different setting to play.

user, this doesnt even take place in the 3k period. Everyone else is dead. This is about Sima Yi's great grandchildren. None of the DW Simas like Zhao and Shi are even in this DLC.

No. Literally never happened. As you can see from posts like...

...it's probably just the same kind of mentally ill falseflagger that you see here, making up and winning fights against imaginary enemies.

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Is this the image the subreddit shit itself over?

>y ill falseflagger that you see here, making up and winning fights against imaginary enemies
Why is this happening so constantly on Yea Forums?

The very same.
The community manager posted she was disgusted and took the rest of the week off from work. Following the episode the sub added a 'no NSFW' rule

He's doing it on /twg/ too. He probably transferred here since fantasychads are having none of shit.

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does anyone have the link to the big pack of 2010 three kingdoms reaction pics

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Their petty division ensured the efforts and tragedies of the heroes of the 3K meant nothing.

>spoiler
The lyrics are pretty depressing once you know the context of both the original piece and the trailer.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quatrain_of_Seven_Steps

1000 years of historical propaganda

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Dongs the hero of the story

What's the American equivalence to this?

A game about the war of 1812 from the British perspective, while simultaneously ONLY focusing on the land war, and not even bringing up the naval war
A game about vietnam portraying America as anything but the righteous victors of the war

The concentration camps for foreigners

Cease at once you big eared villain!

>this is a shameful part of our history
>it means we should never EVER talk about it

Then again, this is China. Don't know why that would surprise anyone.

>BAO intensifies

Didn't CA learn from Warhammers' DLC that separate mini-campaigns aren't really a big draw for players as much as fleshed out factions that expand the world further?

Yours is a retarded complain because there's nothing mini about the campaign. The mini-campaigns from before were all geographically limited and forced you to play as one faction, neither of which applies to this one.

But all the characters in this campaign are literal whos. Where are the people I know from dynasty warriors?

>Called War of the Eight Princes
>Two of the princes die 9 years before the actual conflict begins
Also
>Called Total War Three Kingdoms
>Doesn't have the Three Kingdoms
>CA decides to just skip the Three Kingdoms and go for the sequel

In the grave, where they belong. Now you get to play with NEW HEROES and on top of that they are all supposed to be your bros so betrayals and alliances feel more visceral than before.

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it has 3 kingdoms, they can be formed

Do frogs croak because they want to, or because the government ordered them to?

I dont give a shit about any of these guys. Where is Huang Gai and Han Dang?

But the real question is
Will we get to play as the literal retard sima?

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>han dang

who?

>CA abandons historycucks for Warhammer fa/tg/uys
>CA abandons Warhammer fa/tg/uys for Winnie the Pooh
>CA now pissed off Winnie the Pooh and its not even a year since Three Kingdoms' release
>"""community manager""" also pissed off modders who like pretty Winnie the Pooh dolls in their Winnie the Pooh musou games

OHNONONONONONONONONO

>empire gets wrecked because of a woman lmao
How many times must the cycle be repeated? Even ottoman sultans who didn't even take wives for centuries, only concubines were brought down by the power of pussy.

His faction will probably be led by his evil waifu. Maybe there'll be events about him doing retarded things or something.

I don’t know about the later 3 kingdoms era because I found it gets boring so why are the Chinese upset about the Sima family?
Just give be the basics.

>faction gimmick is that the faction leader keeps utterly destroying your campaign
I mean wouldnt be that suprising considering that was the gimmick of every single thrones of brittania faction but still

Worst fucking dynasty that China ever had. They managed to lose the entire country in a span of 20 years just after ending the 3 Kingdoms period. If only Cao Cao was immortal. None of this shit happened

>'women ruin the world' expansion
>feminists don't complain since the neither play strategy games nor have a grasp of history

Feels good

A general steals the throne from one of Cao Cao's descendands and starts Jin dynasty. Second Jin emperor is literally unironically retarded, as in genuinely developmentally disabled and gets married to a jealous murderous woman who puppets him while bearing no sons and killing all the concubines who got pregnant from him (except one concubine that got gifted to the retard by his dad before the marriage to teach him how to fuck, who got pregnant and gave him a son). Since the emperor is retarded the empire turns into a very extended clusterfuck of backstabbing Sima relatives all trying to be regents and or usurpers, retard's wife trying to do the puppeting herself and so on.
China gets fucked up beyond repair, it's north gets occupied by mongol-turkic barbarians, the country gets split apart for 300 years.
Shamefur dispray.

Haha

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>here's your 'prince' bro

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The whole period would make a great tragic show too
>only relative who truly cared for him and did his best to keep his retarded brother safe and healthy who also happens to be an all around nice person absolutely gets fucked because of his blood

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Who was the good Sima?

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The dead ones

Is that's what the DLC is about? Are those the eight princes?

I think it was Sima Ai (Yi)
>pic
What it is? And why it reminds me of Fate's version of William Tell?

>tfw no tomboy bandit gf

Just kill me now lads

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Yep. It's a somewhat strange choice for a campaign because it wasn't just one big civil war with the princes all fighting each other, it was a long period with the princes rising up one after another.

Is there a mod where I can play as a white guy conquering japan yet?

Oh, and the retard's evil waifu is the one talking in the trailer, I presume. She's considered one of the most despicable people in all Chinese history.

>japan

'no'
Thanks, Image is a cover of a chinese book where a time traveler gives Shu modern day weaponry (or something like that)

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Japan/china whatever

Shut the fuck up incel

Ok that's a really weird choice for a campaign DLC what the hell. I thought this was about the period after the actual three kingdoms formed and it'd focus on the heirs of the kingdoms and Sima Yi's rise to power via usurping being an endgame threat to any kingdom or something like that. Not even Dynasty Warriors goes into this period so what the hell.

Is it? I thought it was a aged up version of the advisor from the base campaign (LUOYANG BURNS MY LORD)

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No and hopefully never
We don't need white people ruining this game.

>Not even Dynasty Warriors goes into this period so what the hell.
Reminder that DW still haven't covered the (official) fall of Wei and Wu and everything that came in between

Promote this man to "The General Who Shows the Way".

I'm also interested. Here's my shitty OC.

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Wow

What happened? Did they give women too much rights after 3K period?

I assume he's talking about Empress Jia, the cunt who started the whole thing because she wasn't happy with what she had, she was fiercely jealous and even executed concubines out of spite.

>CA gets some money
>Starts being stupid

Look the post below you

The language is Japanese though.

The game was made by wypipo though

She's incredibly forced stronk female in game. Good thing she gets destroyed immediately. Now if the game didn't have like 30% female generals it would be really good.

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Tfw shes 18

>be foreigners
>infiltrate upper echelons of ancient Chinese society
>come out on top of the three kingdoms era
>finally start your plan on retarding china's growth to save the rest of the planet
>it works sending china back hundreds of years
>also it mostly gets blamed on the empress and not you
>slink off
fucking Sima clan, i love 'em.

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I’ve never understood why Zhang Fei is seen as a hero when he is in fact a stupid piece of shit.
What did Guan Yu (also a fraud) and Liu Bei (hypocrite) even see in him to swear brotherhood?

things were alot different when they swore that oath.

zhang fei was an 18 year old butcher, liu bei was an 24 year old shoe maker, guan yu was a 23 year old criminal.

actually that last part didn't really change much other than his age.

no one is review bombing shit.

>ambitious cannibal baby eater
>bandit with inflated self-worth
>brainless drunk pedo brute
I dunno user, they fit like three shitty peas in a pod

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Zhang Fei was a pedo piece of shit but was arguably more successful than the others.

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Sounds like a good setting for a video game.

The bugmen hivemind feels collective shame. Fucking hilarious.

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He was the strategic brains of the Peach Bros IRL until Zhuge Liang arrived, something that gets ignored outside the original Romance (where he manages to outsmart many foes with his rep of a drunk retard) and The Ravages of Times (where he IS the most ruthless of the trio and many messes incluying pissing off Lu Bu are part of a gambit to force Liu Bei to see the truth of the current mess)

>I'm going to create and crash this dynasty with no survivors

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SIMA CHAD ASSEMBLE

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Because "Romance" of the Three Kingdoms was a fictional novel based on real life, not historical non-fiction fact sheet, you double imbecile.

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>I’ve never understood why Zhang Fei is seen as a hero when he is in fact a stupid piece of shit.
It's kinda silly that his "romantic" portrayal is a dumbass and not a very pleasant guy, and its really just bravery and nothing else that makes him worth anything at all.
His historical self was a massive asshole, but he was also much more capable.
>What did Guan Yu (also a fraud) and Liu Bei (hypocrite) even see in him to swear brotherhood?
Money, among other things. His family's business(being butchers) was supposedly fairly lucrative and is likely how the three brothers got their whole little military operation off the ground in the first place.

>all these Wei fags
>all these Shu fags
>not one Wu fag

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Hah, Chinese have that shitty genre of pulp fiction novels too. Who could've thought.

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Wu lost me when Gan Ning lost his sword.

For me, it's because all the Wu emperors had that dumb pajeet moustache.

Wei>Wu>Shit>Shu

Quit being a polacky, other than the sun woman there is not much in the way of unique and they all have the same two faces. Campaign needed portrait mode and a south culture pack. Not this stupid shit.

>more femminist shit
I never imagined that total war would convert in to that shit.

:'(

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Does this game suck Zhuge Liang's dick like the book?
>m-muh empty fort
Fuck off.

You never had me. You never had Jing.

both him and sima yi are special generals that can appear part way through the game

Creative Assembly is a Swedish company moron, they have been pushing this since Rome 2.

The game sucks no dicks, there is very little actual character influence in the game.

>we will never live in an universe where Cao Chong survives childhood and becomes the "Augustus" to Cao Cao's "Julius Caesar"
fuck Cao Pi what a worthless little cunt and fuck the Sima clan
Cao Cao got cucked out of a legacy even harder than Alexander the Great holy shit the man had no luck when it came to successors it's not fucking fair

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I'm not a nerd ass like you faggot, since when? i remember that it used to be british.

>Cao Chong

As pointed out by Sima Yi, if Chong really was intelligent he would have made an effort to hide it from his brothers.

Cao Pi was the better choice.

I'm going to spammit in reddit just because yes

If someone made the game about Ottoman empire sinking into "sultanate of women" would people be happy because it's about kebab getting decadent or be mad because it's about a single Ukrainian slave girl subverting a misogynist heavily militaristic culture that until her arrival didn't even allow their rulers to take official wives?

he was fucking 12 and just trying to make his dad happy holy shit

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Just checked, CA are still british and the other user is still sucking dicks

I literally just watched this episode. RIP Cai Mao

Sounds like he wasn't that smart after all then.

Which ain't a luxury you can afford when you're a member of a powerful political family. Sucks, but that's the way it is.

Sycophatic faggot had it coming.

retard kys

Okay reddit.

The lyrics of the song from OP's video is how another brother managed to avoid getting killed by Cao Pi.

Don't worry, the euro enslavement game will come within the decade.

He was a faggot for sure but I always feel bad for people who get executed for crimes they didn't commit.

suck my balls

jfc

Will there be a Nanman expansion?

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If Ottoman history is anything to go by then enslaving yuros only leads to stagnation and decadence as they subtly seduce good muslim men with their wh*teoid cunny and force them to reject everything that made the empire strong in the first place for the sake of "love".
Seriously, read up on Roxolana, it's some hilarious shit

I may not like the Shu-Han, but god fucking damn the entire Zhuge Liang vs Sima Yi conflict was bloody excellent from the very beginning to the very end.

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>War of eight princes
Huh, didn't expect that. I wonder that else CA has planned.

MODS DELETE THIS OMFG I AM LITERALLY SHAKIONG THIS SO DISGUSTING

No you suck my balls reddit.

500 social points have been deducted from your account

Hopefully, and if yes I think it would be a "culture pack" like the Yellow Turbans.

The grandchildren of Sima spent their time backstabbing, tearing china apart, genociding people, getting executed in horrible ways, and then losing to outside barbarians which ruled China for decades.

didn't Zhuge Liang kill them all?

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There is none, Americans don't have any shame.
The country doesn't even have universal healthcare and half the population takes it as a point of pride.
They have talking heads on tv praising the american freedom of being able to work multiple jobs until you die lol.
I've lived here for 10 years now, the average American is poor, fat and uneducated, and proudly so.

How the fuck was everyone able to spit up blood so readily in that show. What do bugmen eat? Glass?

Seems to be a trope that pops up in Asian works in general. Happens all the time in anime and jRPGs too.

>while simultaneously ONLY focusing on the land war, and not even bringing up the naval war

I'm no expert in the war of 1812 but from looking at the casualties and losses section on the Wikipedia page the came off much worse at sea than the British.

Why Is it shamefuru Senpai?

They spent so much time and effort backstabbing eachother and killing their own people, that when everybody was dead horseniggers rode in and ruled over china for a few generations

It basically started China's long history of subjugation by foreign powers.

I just want to conquer the fire goddess

I hope we get a DLC in the year 194-198 so I can play a real Lu Bu campaign.

Playing as the Eight Princes sounds cool, but fuck, I need more Three Kingdoms period DLCs.

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What a bunch of IMBECILES.

You flaming idiots!

lu lingqi when

>not a warring states DLC
disappoint

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Probably the closest thing is Vietnam mixed with The Great Depression. Essentially China Numbah Wan’s gov’t shits itself with corruption (as many ancient civilizations have) and were then conquered by an outside force (which also happens to many other once great ancient civilizations.). This all happens alongside terrible wars and famine.

>DLC
>War of the 8 Princes
>not twice as superior 16 Kingdoms period

included with the shack dlc

Genghis Khan: Total War when?

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It's interesting because there's plenty of shameful parts of European history I fucking love.

Well technically only the north of China was conquered, though it was the traditional heartland of chinese civilization. It led to a mass migration south which effectively sinicised the south permanently. The jin dynasty held out for another century or so though it was always a shitty dynasty overly reliant on the nobility.

>The community manager posted she was disgusted and took the rest of the week off from work
wait what?

too bad he died early.

Chinese people can't take any criticism of their culture or history. They like to pretend it didn't happen instead. Can't have the middle Kingdom appearing weak and incomepetent now can we. That could threaten the power of the CCP. All Chang needs to know is that China ees numbah wohn.

it'll probably be in the dlc docket somewhere

Not like kuomintang government was any better about this stuff. China is china, red or white.

True enough I suppose. I guess being fucked as hard as they were during the 19th century and the first half of the 20th century gave them some sort of national ptsd. So now they just lash out if anyone even implies them being weak or in the wrong. Just look at what happened to that mma fighter who kicked the shit out of a kung fu master in a few seconds. He got blacklisted in the entire country. No sense of self awareness, just complete denial, because china numbah one.

Yeah but that’s what a conquered civilization is. It’s not like you need to control every square foot of the place.

It’s more of a matter of still technically being in a communist surveillance society.

Reminds me of a certain European country that had a giant chip on their shoulder over being late to colonisation and global politics game and then an even bigger one over losing ww1.
Roman emperors were blonde blue eyed Germanics btw

Read up on Taiwan's history after they lost the civil war, it's a cultural trauma that runs deeper than political alignment. Seems like them and Hong-Kong only managed to unfuck themselves somewhat in recent years mostly by divorcing themselves from the main-land chinese identity and forging one of their own.

Sounds like your typical Chinese soap opera though, I don’t see what’s so wrong about this aside from losing the country for another 300 years

Being 12 at the time is like being in early 30 nowadays. The kid should have know better.

You know how China spent last five hundred years or so getting conquered by mongols, then freeing themselves, then getting conquered by a different tribe of kinda-mongols, getting forced to have silly haircuts and then getting conquered by westerners and then even fucking japan (which in on itself a tremendous shame to them - Japan was little more than an impoverished den of pirates for most of Chinese history)?
That's where it all started, with the north of China getting taken by proto-mongols, devastating traditional Chinese heartlands and forcing a giant migration to the south.

Fucking Chinks, man. Countries got conquered and subjugated all the time, why should they feel the need to be special?

A game about the Civil War from the perspective of a typical Southerner. An honest one, specifically, not making them the equivalent of Nazis.

This is pretty fucking kino.

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Just take a look at China's history. They got fucking colonized by every European country. It's no surprise they are extremely nationalistic because they already know what happens if you let foreigners fuck around your country.

based chad bu

They're nationalistic because they have the deluded idea that China is, was and has always been a great power except that everyone else keeps holding them down and it's totally not anything to do with their disastrous governments and the mass of stupid people that allow them to hold power.

he's one of the best vanguard generals, his passive buff lets him take on champion generals in duels and win at a reasonable ratio.

Revanchists and other types of people who are mad at history are dime-a-dozen, user, you're just not looking for them.
China is simply relevant enough to make themselves be heard (and we're in a thread about a game based on them)
Look closer into Polish culture for example and you'll see the amounts of salt unheard of before. Mostly towards Russia, but not just for communism, it runs far deeper than that.
But when a smaller less relevant country does something like that no one really gives a shit.
Then there's Russian salt about repeatedly failing to create a working country and or being perceived as weak (vidya examples include youtube comments under Rainbow Six: Siege spetsnaz reveal and that russian review of Company of Heroes 2)
I already mentioned pre-ww2 German salt, although they got cooled off a bit after having their population decimated and their country quartered.
Southern salt about the civil war
Finnish salt about losing Karelia, followed by salt over being colonised by Sweden
The Balkans, than entire area. No specifics needed.
Make a historical game based entirely on a contentious period from any country's history and you'll get those sorts of people getting mad at it.

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>Random Chinese guy says he doesn't like playing games with depressing storylines like the 8 Kings
>"OMG China is ashamed and trying to hide their history!"
What the hell is wrong with you people?

>tfw no Ravages of Time Lu Bu portrait mod

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>Sima family shame
My only knowledge of RottK is from Dynasty Warriors, but I thought Sima Yi and his family united the chaos of the three kingdoms under one dynasty? Why are they shameful now?

>DLC in a different era
This is extremely exciting to me. Would love to have a campaign set at the end of the Qin empire.

See the end of:
threestatesrecords.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/an-introduction-to-three-kingdoms.pdf

The Sima screwed everything up within 20 years.

Yes, Sima Yi "won" the three kingdoms period. However the period the DLC is about is his grandkids. They started wars with eachother, political backstabbing, executing eachother, going on genocide sprees in eachothers lands, and when most of them were dead and the rest broken, barbarians rode in on their horses to rule over china for a a long time

>The Sima screwed everything up within 20 years.
kek really? DW made it seem like were the final solution to the chaos.

>Sima Zhao dies, gets succeded by his son Sima Yan.
>He tells the last Wei Emperor to fuck off and establishes the Jin Dynasty.
>Takes over Wu without much issues because their last Emperor was a lunatic and their subjects begged Jin to take order.
>2 decades later, Sima Yan chooses as heir his firstborn, who is a literal retard.
>The retard's wife (who was the daughter of the evil goth BBF of Sima Zhao in DW) sent to kill every person she hated.
>The brothers of the retard kill each wanting to be the next regent/emperor and hire barbarian mercenaries.
>Only one brother left, but his kingdom ends dominated by horsefuckers (the Five Barbarians)
>China wouldn't be whole again until 3 centuries later.

My knowledge is EXTREMELY limited so I won't argue this too forcefully, but the Jin Dynasty lasted for 160 years so that's pretty decent desu. Did the Simas have nothing to do with it after 20 years?

Sima Yan was a shit ruler and had a literal retard placed as his successor, this retard was married to a psychotic empress who killed his regent or two who were also Sima's, eventually spiraling out of control into a free for all to see who could be regent or emperor, when the final Sima came out on top, he died and 'barbarians' decided to make northern china their home.
>tl;dr they fucked up but history needs villains and heroes so they got lumped with a really bad reputation

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Well yeah, DW is based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, which starts with the line
>“Long united must divide, long divided must
unite.”
So the story ends there because that goal has been reached, China is unified again.
The War of the 8 Princes however, isn't very glamorous, so people don't talk about it much.

Civil war started breaking out within 20 years. After another 20 years, the Jin Imperial government had completely collapsed. The last hundred years of the Jin dynasty was a distant cousin (descended from Sima Yi but not Sima Zhao) larping as Jin in the southeast while the north was divided between a bunch of other states, some founded by sinicized barbarians.

Is there a a 'equivalent' TV Show for 8 Princes like how TK2010 is for Three Kingdoms?

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So are the Sima family LITERALLLY nazi?

None at all if I recall correctly, the Chinese don't like this period of history for all the reasons that have been stated in this thread already.

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no but there's King's War which covers the fall of Qin and the Chu-Han contention. It's not very good but it's the same director as Three Kingdoms and I enjoyed it.

No, the nazis had eugenics programs that killed retards, the Sima clan had not one, but TWO literally retarded emperors! equal opportunity!

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As a Vietnamese I enjoy hearing stories of Le Loi btfo the Chinks.

Too bad about modern day Vietnam tho

It doesn't get any attention because none of the leading figures of the time are worthy of being a main character.

Despite all the idiots who think China is ashamed of its history, the most famed and mythologized period of Chinese history, the Three Kingdoms, is one of shame and disgrace. What had been one of the greatest empires of the world declined into a farce before collapsing into anarchy and destruction that claimed the lives of millions. But despite the shame, the leading figures of the time still had their own sense of honor that captured the imaginations of later storytellers.

Meanwhile, Western Jin had such exemplars as these:

>Wang Yan was one of the most brilliant men of his time, skilled in the sophistries of pure conversation, a scholar both of diplomacy and xuanxue. At Luoyang in 311 he was captured by Shi Le, who asked him about the failure of Jin. Wang Yan's answers were clear and elegant, and Shi Le spoke with him for several days. But Wang Yan also sought to explain how he had held himself aloof from such meanness, and that those errors and failures were no concern of his. Shi Le replied, "Your fame extends over all the four seas, and since your youth you have occupied high positions. ... How can you claim to have taken no part in the affairs of the world? Indeed it is your fault that the empire is defeated and destroyed!" And so he killed him.

>Zhang Hua wrote an essay of warning about consort families, but he later served the government of the Empress Jia. In 300 he was arrested and sentenced to death by Sima Lun. On the eve of execution he sought to justify himself to one of his captors, but he was asked to explain why he had not protested earlier, even to death, at the deposition of the Heir Apparent Sima Yu. Zhang Hua replied that he had spoken against the project in open council. "And when your objections were ignored," came the reply, "why did you not resign your office?" Zhang Hua could make no answer.

cont.

>Even if one considers the nature of their rulers, from the cruelty of the Empress Jia to the murderous rivalries of the Eight Princes, the conduct of these officials and their colleagues fell far short of the model displayed by the proscribed partisans a hundred years earlier, who went voluntarily to their deaths for the principles they believed in, and they match poorly the personal loyalty that other men had given their chieftains in the years of the Three Kingdoms.

Are you the Vietbro who btfo worst Korea on Yea Forums?

What happened?

Going back a while but
archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/92509680/

are so many of the generals women? and why don't men have like 15 wives like Cao Cao did?
I don't think CA's being very historically accurate...

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citation needed

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>King's War
>same director as Three Kingdoms
thanks user, ill check it out

every country ouside of western europe and US is like this though. russians or turks get upset as easily as chinese

>chinks love DLC for THEIR GAME no matter what
>They also love sword art online and date a live
checks out

>Entire thread is an argument between a rice farmer and a plastic human

kek that made my day. Thanks, user.

>that fucking island broadcasted in schools 24/7

>HK$
better flee to taiwan user before you get the june 4 treatment

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Amazing song desu

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No it isn't. What kind of retarded logic is that? I guess France was a conquered civilization by England coz England owned half it's territory in one ear even though England lost it in the end.

>Just look at what happened to that mma fighter who kicked the shit out of a kung fu master in a few seconds. He got blacklisted in the entire country.
kek I remember that
but to be fair he was an absolute disrespecting douchebag that stirred shit for attention

Holy shit. Is this the best China is doing right now? They just seem to be history's punching bag, whenever they got something good going they either kick off a civil war ending with casualties in the millions or somebody comes along and gets them addicted to opium and then bends them over because they try not to be addicted to opium.

How are they going to ruin this time? I mean looking at the trends of history they just can't help themselves to the point where it's almost inevitable. China practically exists to murder itself until they are weak enough to be somebody's bitch, rinse and repeat.

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Never really cared about seanigs but this made me laugh irl.

Modern genetic studies have debunked your pic. Despite multiple invasions, the Han ethnicity was very careful about protecting its own ethnic identity, and invaders typically lacked the numbers to do any ethnic replacement beyond the ruling class, and Han peasants always ended up throwing them out and filling the ruling class again anyways. The Manchu Qing even lacked the numbers to replace the ruling class. Most of the Ming dynasty ruling class just ended up defecting to the Qing instead of getting replaced.

Because this site is filled with so many pathetic fucking failures that beating up on strawmen is the only way they'll ever win a fight.

i hate chinks so much lads

Americans just obsess over the two or three single actions they won against ships half their size and ignore the equal ones or the 2 years they spent blockaded and rotting at port

God I wish these games were gamepad compatible. They seem fun.

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>rts
>gamepad compatible
nigger what?

I aint' saying it's logical nigger, just wish they were somehow.

why would you want what is objectively an inferior means of control?

I'm a couch guy. We're of a different stock than you keyboard and hunched over desk fellows.

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Have you tried the valve controller? they've got programmable profiles for games, maybe there is one for TWTK

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Well, that's really convinient.

THATS IT, IM TAKING A VACATION OFF FROM WORK

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Which modern genetic studies?

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They are bringing 21st century politics to the past and you're gonna eat shit until you like it.

>trailers means it's good
>youtube.com/watch?v=aWZCfdDW4NQ
How is it actually sounding from what we know?

DA DA DO!
DA DA DO!

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Vietnamese user here, the Vietnamese got colonized by China by almost one fucking thousand years and we never really see those one thousand years as shameful. Sure most of us have kind of biased against the Chinese but we don’t see those thousand years as a shameful period that should never be spoken of.

If anything, some of the more well known legends come from stories of people rising up against the Chinese.

i literally havent payed a shred of attention to it at all. Does it have gunpowder units? if its entirely just another fantasy/melee unit game i probably wont even bother.

>gunpowder
it's like 200 AD user, no guns

报!

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>that advert with CaoCaos actor after every episode
What the fuck is he shilling? Air conditioning?

gay. is there any chance CA might decide to redo fall of the shogun 2? or a american civil war game? I really want gunpowder RTS games that arent post ww2.

>or a american civil war game?
>wanting a game with two near identical factions
yawn

Empire total war exists

>*peach tree branches clattering*

in napoleon total war the great war, did they end up giving the tanks proper animation (moving turrets, moving tracks). i remember seeing a vid of it a while ago and that was a total putoff.

That's a pretty cool trailer desu.

Well that's the case for colonized countries everywhere, but not if you spent your history as an empire.
Same case here in Flipland. We have been colonized 3 times and our national pride comes from trying to overthrow our oppressors.
I imagine it would be different if we started as a powerful country who then suffered countless defeats. Look at how pathetic Italy and Greece is now because theyre a shadow of their former glory

Bad pinoys bad pinoys, watcha gonna do when we come they you?

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Hot damn. Was this in mindanao or something? That laser sight tho

Grand strategy isn't RTS.

This game has the worst designed interface of any Total War game, or any game that I have ever played.

You haven't played many of them then.

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based

There is a civil war mod for napoleon

moddb.com/mods/north-south-acw-the-american-civil-war/images/20190212110000-13#imagebox

I'm pleasantly surprised they picked this Jin period.

It's not the most popular historical period by any stretch

I'm pumped though

There's nothing to that degree. If you add everything up in the US short history you still wouldn't add up. Chinese are the kings of civil strife

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based chinks for making Mods that make CA employees SEETH with feminist anger

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Thanks user, my boss just came in and gave me one week paid leave due to this picture

Opium Wars soon.

Any tips for someone getting into TW through 3K? I'm retarded when it comes to these kinds of games

It's pretty overwhelming at first but if you keep to the tutorials and choose someone "easy" then you should be just fine.

This guys vids helped me out quite a bit:
youtu.be/0QaKTKMkvE8

As a German I don't understand the bugmen. you have to talk about your mistakes to learn from them. And do it better next time

So Germany is going to gas 12 million Jews next?

I hope next time's soon

>teached

You are being rused by bullshit. None of that is true.

DELETE THIS

WTF STOP POSTING LEWD PICTURE OF MY WIFE

>try to convince someone by just yelling JUGOR repeatedly

CA repeatedly insults their fans through official channels. How can anyone feel justified in paying them for anything?

Not being paranoid incels.

So you're a findom fetishist, then?

>another mini campaign
WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING THIS AGAIN AFTER EVERYONE FUCKING DESPISED THE POINTLESS BEASTMEN CAMPAIGN AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You should probably go back to flist with the other mentally ill people.

Aaaaa why are you retarded it's a normal campaign dumb fuck aaaaa

So Game of Thrones?

Based CA has more balls than Koei Tecmo