Do video games have value well beyond the stereotype of being a waste of time...

Do video games have value well beyond the stereotype of being a waste of time? Will games ever be romanticized the same way books are?

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>Will games ever be romanticized the same way books are?
No because gamers are the most opressed minority, especially nintendo games

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>Do video games have value well beyond the stereotype of being a waste of time?
No, because it is a waste of time. That being said you should not hate video games with this knowledge. Just embrace what you are doing is pointless and still have fun. Not everything has meaning or intrinsic value.

And how is reading Lord of the Rings or 50 shades is more than a waste of time?

Not really, because part of the stigma of video games, just like with watching TV, is that they rot your brain. And while that's an exaggeration by Baby Boomers, reading is objectively more mentally stimulating than those.

Nothing has any real meaning. It's really sad that people value sex, friends, wealth, and relationships as the top pedestal for life when it all just chemicals and endorphins in your brain trying to make you feel good. What's even more depressing is everyone and everything tries to push this mentality so hard and when reality hits them in the face, people shun the notion that this line of thinking may or may not be incorrect.

They are more or less the same in terms of being a time killer.

Is there a halo effect for Brain Training games?

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if you consider how poeple only exercise to look good so they can get sex better, then you were pretty close

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Define "Waste of time".

healthy eating, drinking lots of water and sensible bedtime, and responsible financial planning are free

Not even shitposting: Games aren't good for storytelling. A decent story keeps you engrossed. Unless you really turn your brain off, just about any repeated walk cycle, button prompt or anything else that you need to make the game playable will hurt (as bad as this word is) "immersion".

The greatest video games out there cannot even compare to the greatest literature in terms of intellectual and cultural value

actually just the drinking (healthy) water and the bedtime are free, you have to have a good career to have food financial planning to begin with, so warehouse man or fry cook will never have good financial planning, and the healthier foods tend to be more expensive.

Books > Movies = TV > Podcasts > Games

Is this an all or nothing type thing? Because I do all of them except Active romantic and social life and I'm extremely miserable all the time.

Essays teach something, but novels are Just an entertainment

Humans are unfortunately social creatures. No social interaction will also make you depressed. Romantic life might do the opposite and will possibly hurt your life even more however.

Reading books has been proven to improve one's vocabulary and speaking skills to the extent that you literally just "sound" smarter, as most books on average contain vernacular and phrasing that casual language doesn't utilize.

Bidya james generally have shit tier writing. Between poorly localized JRPGs, lazily written WRPGs that are catered to the expectation of VAs not wanting to read literal paragraphs of verbose dialogue, and limited narrative devices (90% of AAA games are just a variation of the hero's journey), the vast majority of games are basically worthless compared to literature unless you're talking about children's books or straight up smut garbage like 50 Shades.

>"waste of time"
oh brother who gives a fuck? play games if you like them, you're going to die some day anyway. people act like their shit is so much more important than it really is.

>you have to have a good career to have food financial planning to begin with, so warehouse man or fry cook will never have good financial planning
This is debatable depending on where you start.
>and the healthier foods tend to be more expensive.
This is a meme that people need to stop repeating. Healthy eating is inexpensive, just less convenient because you can't just pop a salad in a microwave and be done.

You're right, I was being a copelet
But you can't fault be completely, gamers are the most opressed minority constantly under attack

If you had fun with it, it wasn't wasted time. If the amount of satisfaction gained was negative (you got angry at the game), THEN it was a waste of time.

Video games require many many complex interactions in your mind. Whether it's spatial judgment (platforming games), risk assessment (most FPS), management of assets (city building/sandbox games), ethical decision making (choose your adventure type games), problem solving (puzzle games), or learning to cooperate (multiplayer gaming); video games allow us to practice these things with a major advantage: there is no loss to failing. So you get to practice, as many times as you like, until you get it right. There is a reason the military specifically is interested in adapting VR gaming for its training of infantry. You can pack years of experience with out risking the lives of your people. It depends on the character of the individual whether or not they utilize the potential.

I grew up reading a lot of books as my parents refused to let "games rot my brain". Games are not the problem. Games are vastly more powerful tools of communication in comparison to books and here's why: in a book, the decisions, choices, emotions, and morals are decided before you read the first page. Books just allow you to interpret them on your own. Games force you (or don't force you) to make your own choices in these matters. Putting you behind the controller is supposed to put you in the shoes of the character who is "making" these decisions. You may end up with the same outcome, but how you arrive there is infinitely complex. I'm talking specifically about narrative driven game play, though I will argue that sometime the lack of narrative is the narrative.

This mindset quickly diminishes as you get older desu. The more I realize that my free time is getting increasingly sparse, the more I want to use it doing something that's actually productive.

Games have huge educational value. Obviously not every game, but some games can teach you a lot and they can teach you fast. From Crusader Kings I gained a lot of understanding about why medieval societies existed in the way they did and why those people made the decisions they did. I also ended up doing a lot of reading because of it. There are a lot of games that have given me a way better understanding of certain things and led me to learning more.

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For you, maybe. I've never had a problem with it. "Free time" is not for productivity, that's what your NOT free time is for. Otherwise your not free time is the one being wasted since you don't consider it free and you don't consider it productive either.

Shit you do in your free time can definitely be productive. It just depends on what you find engaging imo.

I happen to enjoy cooking, which is both fun to me and also feels more productive than playing games. When I cook, I know I'm doing it in my free time because I could just buy fast food on the way home, then use that free time playing games instead. But I choose to spend an hour trying out a new recipe because it's fun and makes me feel more productive than just playing vidya.

I still play games a lot, I just choose to do it a little more casually than I used to so that I have more time available for my more productive hobbies.

well that's my dose of normalfaggotry for the day

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As long as games are made to cater to the Fun / Hour formula they will never ever be art
>anyone who has tried is immediately written off as boring and pretentious

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Shut the fuck up and grill me a sandwich with that precious time of yours faggot.

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>Do video games have value well beyond the stereotype of being a waste of time?
They probably helped me be a better driver by training me to quickly react without panicking, and also to estimate the trajectory of moving objects.

Interesting. I don't think video games have helped me with driving in any way.

No, because games are products designed to be sold for profit

Just look at Pokemon, the games are literally just advertisement for the merchandise.

>Just look at Pokemon, the games are literally just advertisement for the merchandise.
But the games are profitable in their own right. If anything the anime was advertisement for games and merchandise back in the heyday of the franchise.

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