CnC remaster

>the companies don't even need to do anything.

>>if things keep looking this good

As I said, they have to make a good product.

the full model of the tesla tank for comparison. my initial thoughts were it looked like a hotwheels car, but ingame i'm kinda liking it. when shit is that smallin an RTS readability is key (see wc3 remake) and extra detail probably would have just been lost

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No.

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RA1 > 2

the only thing i hope they add is a toggleable option for terrain you you've explored but have no vision to be obscured. Being able to see forever once you've scouted an area is stupid in multiplayer, it sucks so much strategy out of the game.

>RA Heavy Tank
>It's one of the most iconic tanks of the Cold War the T-80U but with an extra gun.
>RA2 Rhino
>It's a smaller box on a bigger box, takes no design queues from Soviet tank aesthetic. Even has a fake sounding name.

>RA Shock Trooper
>It's a regular soldier with battery pack and a conductor for a rifle.
>RA2 Shock Trooper
>It's a fucking 1800s deep sea diver with electricity gloves.

>RA Hind.
>It's a Hind, the most Soviet aircraft ever made.
>RA2 Kirov
>It's a zeppelin that's somehow heavy armoured with an infinite supply of bombs. What the FUCK does a zeppelin have to do with the Soviet Union? They were mostly a German thing.

one had imagination, the other one didn’t
>but muh realism
RA2 is still the better game.

the game would be infinitely better with a shrouded state

i always kind of wondered why they gave the soviets zeppelins.

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One blended realism with rule of cool to stay within the realm of possibility. The other went full retard.

RA2 will always be a huge disappointment that took the franchise in the wrong direction.

this, RA2 lead to more of the dumb shit that gave us RA3

If they will do that I hope they'll make an actual full Yuri campaign. The 3 missions of the yuri coop campaign is not enough.

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Whatever you say, but I and most people don’t agree with you. RA2 is widely considered the best of Westwood.

>RA2 will always be a huge disappointment that took the franchise in the wrong direction.
This is your opinion, and you’re entitled to it, but stop conflating your opinion with fact, especially when pretty much everyone disagrees with you.

You're doing the same thing as him though. I think Westwood's peak was dune 2 -> Tiberium Sun

You can think whatever you like, but it’s widely agreed upon RA2 is the best in the franchise. You look up any top 10 RTS list, and RA2 is not only in the top 3 usually, but it always beats out all other CnC games.

RA3 jumping the shark doesn’t retroactively make RA2 a bad game. Only an idiot would think that.

>RA3 jumping the shark doesn’t retroactively make RA2 a bad game. Only an idiot would think that.
Literally this.
What the fuck is this historic revisionism from retards that are now saying RA2 is bad simply because RA3 happened?

Also RA3 unironically isn't bad, just flawed and inferior to its predecessors, still better than vast majority of RTS games out there.

RA3 didn't do anything that RA2 didn't already touch on. Dumb gamey units, cartoon graphics, memey voice lines, stupid plots with actors woodchipping scenery.

The top 3 RTS is generally considered to be Starcraft, Supreme Commander/Total Annihilation and maybe Company of Heroes or Dawn of War or AoE2. It's uncommon, but not unusual to see RA2 make the top ten.

RA2 didn't bring a massive amount to the genre and wasn't a big enough step up from tiberium sun. yes, it was very polished and featured a lot of wacky or sci-fi units that some people liked, some people thought didn't make much sense

RA3 has nothing to do with it.

Yeah, the problem is that RA3 went too far, changed the mechanics ruining the game, and went for Japan when it should have been the Nazis.

RA2 isn’t responsible for RA3 not “getting it” and ruining the perfect balance of campy and realistic that RA2 had achieved.

RA2 Soviets in general have weird choices in terms of units/names/design.
As other user said, the zeppelins should be a german thing, Rhino tank looks and even uses WW2 German conventions and basically seems like something the Germans would make if WW2 went on longer, Flak Track again is the fucking German 88mm mounted on a truck, V3 again just a fucking next generation of German V1 and V2 rockets, Terror Drone seems like a logical evolution of WW2 German Goliath, the Apocalypse Tank at least is clearly using the IS-series tank chasis as its base so that looks Russian-ish.

But yeah, there's too much German in RA2 Soviets.

I should also mention total war and rise of nations in that list. Both of them innovated more and were more deserving of best rts ever than ra2

I’ve seen RA2 make it to top 3 before. It’s a classic of the genre and generally agree to be peak CnC. Usually Generals/Zero Hour follows after it.

>RA2
>cartoon graphics
(You), at least now I know you're just a zoomzoom poser.

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I really wanna play it

>stupid plots with actors woodchipping scenery
You mean like RA1?
youtu.be/hZ87NTbhS_M?t=17

You thought RA2 had the perfect balance, some of us thought RA1 had the perfect balance and anything over that is too far.

>nazis
literally the only reason the red alert universe exists is because there were no nazis, why on earth would you bring them back?

>why on earth would you bring them back?
to be fair nazis and crazy superweapons go hand in hand

Is that supposed to disprove me? That's an anime compared to Tiberian Sun.

Some of you, yes, but you’re a minority. It’s generally agreed upon that the first 5 CnC games are all great, and CnC3/KR isn’t bad, AND that the direct sequels to the original 2 IP are all improvements over them.

>Nazis
We’ve talked about this in previous CnC/RA threads. They’re Nazis with future tech (Metal Slug/Wolfenstein) from a different timeline, one where they won the war. Too much Allies fuckery with Chronotech had the inadvertent consequence of collapsing multiple timelines into one, so now they gotta deal with one where Nazis have taken over the world and have a moon base. Best part is, with a set-up like this you can create cool maps where two different realities have merged in a single geographical location, maps inside the space time continuum with unique quirks like portals, and you even have a set up to bring Yuri back once again for an Expansion or something.

I'm a mechanical
I'm a mechanical
I'm a mechanical man

(you)

forgive me, I'm not up to date with CnC headcanon

>generally agreed
>wideless considered
>everybody knows

saying this shit doesn't make it true. RA2 and Tiberium sun obviously have the largest communities of the cnc games today, it's no wonder you think they're the best in the series if you're coming from an enclosed echo chamber of people convinced they're the best in the series.

So, what the fuck are they going to do about the FMVs?

I can only see that part turning into disaster.

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>RA2 and Tiberium sun obviously have the largest communities of the cnc games today,

Isn’t this standing proof that they’re largely agreed upon that they’re the best? user, you can disagree, but your opinion isn’t fact. I’m not saying mine is either, but here you are crashing this thread shitting on people for wanting an RA2 remake cause it’s their favorite. Feel free to be a contrarian all you like, but there is living proof that RA2 is the most liked, and your opinion isn’t fact, nor does being a hipster make you cool.

maybe have them playing on a screen at a commanders desk or something, small enough so you don't notice how low quality they are

If the volume of a fanbase determined whether or not a game was good, fortnite or league of legends would be the best game ever

I never shat on people for wanting a RA2 remake, maybe that was somebody else. I was contesting you saying that it's a superior and widely considered to be superior to CnC95/RA and therefore more deserving of a remaster

>implying you wouldn't celebrate like that if you had the entire world at its knees

>I was contesting you saying that it's a superior and widely considered to be superior to CnC95/RA and therefore more deserving of a remaster
Because both of these are the general consensus among the majority of the CnC community. You’re free to disagree, but disagreement doesn’t make that false.

>Also, rebalance Yuri
They should also strengthen the Soviets.

Looks pretty good. It's not much yet but looks like they really stick to the source.

RA2's engine is a complete clusterfuck and does not work on modern systems.

and the active CnC community is almost nothing but RA2 and Tiberium Sun players, it's a self perpetuating cycle.

The original C&C games were cool at the time but they had really shit gameplay until RA2

And that’s living proof they’re the most beloved. Are you missing brain cells?

If RA1 was preferred over RA2, more people would be playing RA1, just the same as no one plays RA3 despite being newer, or the fact that the Melee community even exists as a Schism of Smashfags.

>>RA Heavy Tank
>>It's one of the most iconic tanks of the Cold War the T-80U but with an extra gun.
It's the medium tank from C&C with an extra gun
and I'm pretty sure the RA Hind is just the Nod helicopter from C&C too
and don't talk shit on the tesla troopers

The Allied helicopter shares with the Nod helicopter because it's just a different variant of the same gunship, the Soviet Hind was new.

>and don't talk shit on the tesla troopers

I will because it's retarded.

>I will because it's retarded.
so is a tank with two guns
it's fiction
why cant it be a heavily insulated suit

>RA2 will always be a huge disappointment that took the franchise in the wrong direction
Before RA2 the RA franchise was nothing more than a carbon copy clone of the first C&C. RA2 is what made the RA franchise its own thing.

Also, RA2 Tesla Trooper makes more sense for the concept than the RA1 recolor of the Flame Trooper.

I must be the only person who loved the empire of the rising sun. But nazis would've been cool too. Give them mechs like in Wolfenstien and stuff.

The netcode for that engine chokes up pretty easily. I'd love the game with an engine that doesn't slow down to a crawl in big multiplayer games.

thats mainly because of the wierd voxel units

I made this a long time ago. Nazis woulda been cool as shit in the RA2 universe.

Hitler brain in a Jar, Base on the Moon, Rocket tech and rail guns, Rocket Harvester, etc... etc...

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Oh yeah, also their Tier 1 Superpower would be Blitzkrieg. Like Iron Curtain, but focused on offense. Selected Units get a speed boost, and their attacks are 1 hit kills for a limited time.

Cringe

What will they do with the cutscenes?

CGI animated for more modern look.

Fucking hell, dropped

That's what I'm worried about too.
If they CGI them, it will look uncanny as fuck.
If they use originals, they will be low quality as hell.
If they redo them with new actors there will be riots.

Europe is entire world?

The US almost didn't contribute to Red Alert 1

>T95
>not the Maus