Was he based or cringe?

Was he based or cringe?

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Based for not being a legioncuck or NCRfag, but cringe for being an actual fag and not pro-house.

He's like all Enclave niggers, cringe as fuck.

well he was cringe but he was the only nigga to even have an education in freeside so my character put up with him

Based

based but raul is the GOAT

> actual House fag in 2019
Nobody is pro House in the Mojave except House you retard Benny betrays him the Courier betrays him his autistic robot betrays him etc etc he's fucking dumb and his masterplan relies entirely on human agents who have every reason to fuck him over

I feel the same way. House is an elitist but he's the only option guaranteeing New Vegas won't go back to being in trouble 50 years after the game.
He's the only one ensuring long-term stability. The only permanent option due to his immortality and local concrete power-base. Plus he's the reason new Vegas is still standing in the first place. Wish you could convince Arcade to see that but his incredible idealism is a part of him. At least the House ending can still give Arcade a happy ending as a family doctor.

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Nobody in the Mojave has half a brain. The Courier is pro house and they have the minds and the means to lead humanity back into greatness.

Your gay liberal concept of the majority mattering is cringe and historically illiterate.

Cringe. I blew his brains out as soon as he outed himself, decapitated him and severed all of his limbs, and chucked the parts into a ditch next to those dykes Veronica and Cass.

>homosexual
Absolutely cringe

I was with house right up until the moment when he told me to take out the Brotherhood of Steel. Why the fuck would I want to kill off the entire BoS? Even if my character is Evil he would have no reason to fight those odds when he has an autistic robot and a ready made plan to get rid of House anyway and the reasoning House gives you is the msot retarded shit it's that he doesn't like the BoS because they were mean to him or someshit

>next to those dykes Veronica and Cass.
Seriously, why didn't they let the courier fuck one of them? Is it because it would it be unfair to other companions if there was one in the game that gives you pussy??

>At least the House ending can still give Arcade a happy ending as a family doctor.
That really says it all. Even those that don't like House live happy lives when he is in charge.

Humanity needs an adult to stand up and fix things, and the edgy kids don't like it.

I liked him, but usually ended up missing out on him because he won't join you if you work with the Legion, and that counts for spreading word of what the Legion did Nipton. Fuck you Ganon I needed the XP.

he seemed alright until he started to talk about getting fucked in the ass, unprovoked

>Even those that don't like House live happy lives when he is in charge.
Everyone except the Brotherhood of Steel, and the Kings. And that one town if they were under NCR protection.

His government is technology based and for BOS technology=bad

Just convince veronica to leave them and blow the bunker up disguised

As a Housefag, I also don't like it. The BoS accepts outsiders into their ranks, why couldn't House find a way to join? Why wouldn't house use his courier who is a member(or could become one) to ally with the BoS? He can accept the boomers but not the BoS? Why can't the BoS accept him?

The NCR and BoS can make peace in the Mojave, but House can't? Seems like lazy writing to me.

You originally could've talked him out of it with a mere 40 speech skill-point check.
But they realized that House was the best option and decided they needed to have a House player do at least 1 bad thing. So basically its just arbitrary moral balancing because House is that good.

Yes. The entire human race could return to pre-war civilization and evolve beyond that, but we really want to preserve these Elvis cosplayers and drug dealers.

The problem is that House makes human mistakes and acts emotionally and retardedly he has no reason to take out the BoS his entire plot is to have Benny and the Courier do everything for him as proxy when the logical thing to do for both is to betray the cunt he doesn't even provide a good outcome if he wins he just monopolizes all the water and sells it at massive prices to the NCR and nothing in the Mojave changes at all

he is the correct way to write a faggot

He's good but ED-E and Raul are best

>he doesn't even provide a good outcome if he wins he just monopolizes all the water and sells it at massive prices to the NCR and nothing in the Mojave changes at all
House literally terraforms Mars.

>he doesn't even provide a good outcome if he wins he just monopolizes all the water and sells it at massive prices to the NCR and nothing in the Mojave changes at all
Dead fucking wrong.

>New Vegas is more than a city - it's the remedy to mankind's derailment.
>The city's economy is a blast furnace in which can be forged the steel of a new rail line, running straight to a new horizon.
>What is the NCR? A society of people desperate to experience comfort, ease, luxury... A society of customers.
>With all that money pouring in? Give me 20 years, and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years, and I'll have people in orbit.
>100 years, and my colony ships will be heading for the stars, to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation.
In the meantime, you'd rule Vegas as some kind of dictator?
>I prefer the term "autocrat."
>I would rule as a chief executive. I would not answer to a board of directors or any other entity.
>Nothing to impede progress. If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows.
What's to keep you from abusing your power?
>My judgement.
>I have no interest in abusing others, just as I have no interest in legislating or otherwise dictating what people do in their private time.
>Nor have I any interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah. I am impervious to such corrupting ambitions.
>But autocracy? Firm control in the hands of a technological and economic visionary? Yes, that Vegas shall have.
He's gonna take us to space.

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I fucking love ED-E so much
How can a flying ball be so based?
His combat song is great and always scares the shit out of me when i’m in somewhere quiet and this dumbo ball plays the song out of nowhere

Anyone other than Boone is cringe.

Boone is my favorite companion, I'm a huge sucker for dead spouse stories. Arcade and Raul are also nice though. The rest can fuck off.

>nothing in the mojave changes at all
>human mistakes

whew lad i sure didn't see any of that on the NCR, assuming those two things are actually present on house endings, lmao

House is the best for long-term and that people even debate this is baffling. he may be a self-absorbed cunt that treats everyone like buffoons, but he has the right idea

No I just let the NCR win. The NCR is the only non retarded choice here. House is a retard and gambles too much and is a known bulshitter he absolutely does abuse power and you have no reason to trust him for all we know his life support systems fucked up areas of his brain for 200 years and he could go nuts in any moment

And The Courier is there every step of the way thanks to achieving his own immortality through his control of Big Mt.

He might even get House an android shell to remote control so he can "leave" the lucky 38 for whatever reason he may need or want to.

I understood House's reasoning for wanting to wipe out the BoS, but slaughtering the King's was pointless at best, sadistic at worst. They didn't pose any threat to him and he gained nothing for killing them, the only result was that Freeside would become a little more lawless and dangerous for the people living in there.

Boone is also my favorite, but I would run with Cassidy if she spread

Cringe, but still better than Veronica at least. Boone is the GOAT.

>The rest can fuck off.
But no penalties for drinking alchohol bro

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>gay who is an actual well written character who barely mentions his sexuality at all instead of GUYS WE MADE OUR WHOLE CAST PANSEXUAL FLAMBOYANT OBESE TRANS WOMEN BUY OUR GAME
pretty based to me

Only shabbos goys choose NCR. Keep sucking that brahmin baron dick.

Even if you're right and House cracks, which there is no evidence for there being a possibility, The Courier is there to fix it.

How does House "gambles too much"? How is he a "bullshitter"? How does he "abuse" his power? How is NCR better?

You have 0 evidence for any of that. He doesn't make gambles. he calculates things quite precisely. Only 1 day off from calculating the day the bombs would fall. Absolutely correct in all his other calucations.
Meanwhile the game constantly states and reinforces the fact that the NCR is insanely corrupt despite being a young nation. It will only get worse.

A house ending is unironically also a good ending for the NCR. The NCR needs a set-back to put the war-hounds and morons out of public favor. To stop their over-extension and turn them back to developing their home states. House calculates that in the ending General Oliver has a 40% chance of committing suicide, this removes the most incompetent man in the army. Allowing the actual competent officers such as Colonel Hsu and Chief Hanlon to rise up. President Kimball would fall out of office and his expansionist policies with him. Meanwhile New Vegas would be giving the wealthier citizens of the NCR everything they desire while the city itself remains free of NCR laws.

Educated and cringepilled

NCR would be good if Tandi was still alive. She restricted ownership on land and brahmin.

>Democracy would be good if only competent and uncorrupt people were elected
You don't say?

This is the thing that makes House so BAD. He's positively retarded! Who cares about re-igniting R&D and space exploration? Food, Water, Shelter, Clothing, Medicine, Physical Security, & Rule of Law are the things the wasteland needs, not a tunnel-visioned silicon valley technocrat. He has completely misplaced priorities!

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I want my own ED-E

>waah we need to feed and house people!
You're literally a liberal woman.


You realize in order to achieve his state goals, all of the things you listed are required? Employ some critical thinking skills, sweetheart. House needs employees.

>bringing back R&D and technological advancement wont help with quality of living

Here's how you fix democracy bros:
1. Eugenics program that slowly fades out brainlets from genepool
2. All sorts of tests required before you're allowed to vote.
There, done.

>Here is how you fix democracy
>Government control of breeding and voting rights
Gee, who'd have thunk.

It won't! Where is the implementation? This tourist economy he's built is ONLY possible because of the way that the NCR has resurrected market society. Without them, it's impossible to even start, and with their defeat, it will be impossible to sustain. He's short-sighted and foolish

>DUDE SPACE LMAO

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Vegas should get bombed. It's a gathering place for clans, junkies and gambler trash

see my other post

The NCR isnt being defeated you moron. They are being coerced into an alliance. An alliance which the citizens of the NCR will want but the leaders don't. However after this failure their current incompetent leaders will be replaced and more competent (but not too competent) ones will replace them as democracy works.

no he doesnt, he has robots

Everyone is cringing at you.

he was a cringey jewish homo. At least the game gives you a ton of ways to fuck him over

>The Courier, fair and kind-hearted to those in the Wasteland, ensured that Mr. House would keep New Vegas stable and secure for future generations. Mr. House afforded him/her every luxury at his disposal in the Lucky 38, out of gratitude - and a quiet sense of pride for his choice in lieutenants.
>ensured that Mr. House would keep New Vegas stable and secure for future generations.
Tell me again how this isnt the best ending.

We know that, but we're talking about New Vegas here.

this. based.
>b-b-b-but vegas is the last chance for society
maybe in a shithole like the navajo, but who cares about a barely hospitable desert? society is already back on its feet in san francisco beneath the watchful eye of the based chinks and their supercomputer technology

>cwinge! CWINGE! CWIIIIIINGE!!!! MUMMY MUMMY I CWINGED, I CWINGED MUMMY I POSTED CWINGE MUMMY

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Around what level would you enter the Tops for the first time? Or what are some things I should do before entering, and getting a clean slate with NCR and Legion?
Im currently neutral with both of them.

>NCR and proud to be queer!

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Enjoy getting your women butt fucked and vore by chem out Fiends you faggot

>this time I'm going to play something other than a lockpick/science/speech oriented character that does every sidequest I can
>wind up playing as a lockpick/science/speech oriented character that does every sidequest I can
help

I'm a HouseCHAD, fiends are eradicated by robots after NCR leaves and they aren't considered a benefit anymore.

based Enclave boi

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Pick a new theme and stick with it; cowboy, soldier, scientist, doesn't matter.
Give yourself a low to moderate INT score so you can't just be perfect at everything, be forced to choose.

>sells him into slavery

I'm a New Canaan user and good on you, junkies murders should not live

>mummy
Bongistan not even once.

To get rid of you.
He didn't thought you absolute ma(wo)man would actually do it and come back to tell the tale.

I ate all of them lol

you are already abusing others by being a dictator, who wrote this retarded shit?

>expecting some wimp nerd that's only good for repairing stuff
>on par with boone when it comes to fighting

The kings can live with House and the brotherhood of steel are terrorists

Because Veronica is in love with someone and Cass is probably riddled with STDs, no sense in killing off your Courier early since there's no medicine around to cure that shit.

>you are already abusing others by being a dictator
Is a father telling his children it is bedtime abusing them? Is a mother pulling their child so they don't run into traffic abusing them? Are the parents restricting their child's diet so they are healthy abusing the child?

Why is dictatorship bad? It's a free wasteland, you can fuck off if you don't like House.

>1. Eugenics program that slowly fades out brainlets from genepool
The reason we have brainlets in the first place is because we fucked with our genepool in the first place.
It's called arranged marriage and it came along with civilisation. No longer were partners chosen with healthy children in mind, but the parents of the groom/bride chose the partner based on wealth and politics. There is a reason why the men of more traditional countries have smaller pee pees. Additional fuck upperies are eyeball deformation and crooked teeth.

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>2. All sorts of tests required before you're allowed to vote.
It doesn't need to be that hard.
Stuff like what's the capital of the country/state you are currently voting should be enough.

Give Boone Chance's knife and tell him to melee. Shit is hilarious

>Is a father telling his children it is bedtime abusing them?
if its a grown man unrelated to the children yes
did house secretly impregnate all women in the wasteland?
>you can fuck off if you dont like it
sure, leave your home, your city, your friends and your belongings no abuse at all

Yes, your shit hovel full of your rags and your acquaintanceship with the rest of the junkies in shit hovels is more important than House fixing the planet and saving all of humanity.

An enlightened dictator is the best form of government.

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how many times can you watch people nuke themselves into stone age before you start thinking "hmm, maybe the common retard shouldn't have anything to say" ?

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I just say spread the teaching of Daniel and Joshua
>Starting by taking over New Vegas and turning the streets of New Vegas into a hybird of a giant trading town/Casino paradise
>Letting the people there to still gamble in the casinos but taking a large percentage of the caps
>Giving the gamblers in debt a choice by either being ban from gambling from all establishments or to do honest hard work in a factory where they learn a valuable skill and a lesson
>Putting all the newly earn caps back into the communities like Freeside,North Vegas square and West side
>Trying to win the hearts and minds of the public
>Teaming up with the Followers and help build and rebuild communities around the Mojave
>Spreading the good word while helping people to become self sufficient and then setting up a trading post
>Establishing strong trade lines
>Taking over Camp Mccarran and such and turn into working factories and farms
>Making beneficial trade deals with the Gun runners,Followers,Boomers,Enclave Remnants,Great Khans to gather knowledge, man power,great technology and mass produce vertibirds B-29s bombers,Weaponry big and small,Medical gear,Power armor/armor in general
>Helping gentiles and the like anyway because they are still God's children
>Help groups like the Great Khans see the errors of their ways and expand their horizons
>Upgrading the Securitrons to Mk2 and spread a group of them around the waste to protect travelers and Caravans alike
>Defend the Mojave with the upmost intensity with your newly made heavenly Army with Vertibirds,B-29 bombers,Power armor,Great quality weaponry and devoted Troops
>Forming and either naming New Vegas New Zion or New New Canaan
>Teaching groups like the NCR and Legion the only way to conquer the waste is,Honest work,Great faith, and Plain brutally

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When you ARE that common retard? Any number of times.

to me it is
to me my fixes of jet, my afternoons running away from radscorpions and nights sleeping in absolute filth mean everything and i will surely live the rest of my life in deep misery and depression if i was suddenly deprived of it.
Who are you to take that away?

>When you ARE that common retard? Any number of times.

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Childhood is NCR
Teenhood is Legion
Adulthood is House

The robots in the Fallout Universe are notoriously unreliable

>The reason we have brainlets in the first place is because we fucked with our genepool in the first place.
>It's called arranged marriage and it came along with civilisation
Yes, living in a civilization removes many important forms of natural selection. Also human societies create artificial ways to find partners which allows a lot of bad genes to go around. And also modern societies reward bad traits (for example having tons of children with no way to care for them? Rewarded with welfare)
All this causes dysgenics
>There is a reason why the men of more traditional countries have smaller pee pees
I don't know about that, native americans were tribal until recently and as far as I know they have asian-tier penis. Having a big penis is only beneficial if women are shared around a lot between different men, guess it depends on the tribe you can find both examples in human tribals.

Only way to fix it is either removing civilization (not gonna happen), or eugenics that can simulate natural selection.

>The robots in the Fallout Universe are notoriously unreliable
false

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Based for being his own man in a world where men are decided by dumb shit like faction choice

based politically as well as dad jokes.

so this is the only kind of fallout threads that gets any traction on this board, a lure for fat, neckbeard /pol/tards, fascinating

dude, work for house, take a little verbal insults, and you're a fucking rich man while the real brainiac actually keeps this place afloat.
Do not for a second tell me you'd be a more efficient political figurehead to run the economy than the man who had conquered it twice.

based faggot.

You don't get to just say false, you have to prove your point.

Robots in Fallout fail all the time. They're old as shit, poorly programmed in a lot of cases and a bunch of them have gained sapience in one form or another.

If you'd like to continue I can actually prove to you that you are completely wrong in your assertion. It's almost like you haven't played Fallout games outside of new vegas

Intellectual and academic therefore GAAY

Not him, but what about the countless robots that operate just as they were intended in the post-war world?

You mean the extremely basic units with extremely basic functionality?

false again

Can you give me some examples of robots being "notoriously" unreliable?

Anywhelse like to think that Mr House broke down the wall between the Strip and Freeside, rebuilt freeside to be Strip tier, built the Kings their own casino, upgrade the atomic wrangler, built a hospital on top of the Mormon Fort for the Followers to practice their medicine, and kicked all the jet junkies out?

>I have no argument: the post

fun debate friend.

pretty sure a well maintained robot can still function like this. most wastelanders dont know how to fix shit

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One of the most Advanced AI in the entire Fallout Universe can be convinced to self destruct by a speech check.

That's the MOST ADVANCED AI in the FOU.

...Just think about it.

excuse me. fisto worked just fine

This. Do an errand or two and get you cock wet at Gomorrah all day.
>b-but he will ditch you when he's done with you!
Canonically, the Courier is a fucking cyborg with access to weaponry which could flatten Vegas and his army, twice.

Most of the units that still function are either entirely designed for war, or they're Mr. Handy Units which have been frequently used as comic relief because they fail so often.

The Kings and Followers dont like House and House doesnt like them because their philosphy runs counter to his strict hierarchy.
It's likely he rebuilt (sub-urbanized basically) freeside once more NCR tourists started flooding in he had the money and robot-power to do so. I can see the Atomic wrangler being able to benefit from that. But there's no room in that New Vegas for pseudo-anarchists and individualists such as the Kings and Followers

So you have one example, and it's of an AI, not a robot.

>One of the most Advanced AI in the entire Fallout Universe can be convinced to self destruct by a speech check.
actually thats bethesdas horrible writing and project being rushed

Only faggot i can tolerate in games. His gay sexuality is not his whole character unlike morons force into our games.

No, there are endless examples. You are just vapid and reaching.

>I DONT HAVE AN ARGUMENT SO ONIONS LOL
People like you need to be put in tard camps

He's a damn dirty traitor harboring stolen government equipment. God bless America, god bless the Enclave.

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>house ending
courier gets to do whatever the fuck they want in a free new vegas without actually having to lead while house makes banks for vegas and starts researching new technologies makeing life even better
>Yes man ending
Same as house but you gotta do all the work and have the pressure of being on top
>NCR
be thought of as a hero unless you act against anything the NCR says in which case you are an enemy
>Legion
be thought of as a hero unless you act against anything the legion says in which case you are an enemy but you also get slaves
I wonder why everyone likes the house ending

who asserts that argument? He needs a right hand man, formerly Benny, so you filled a good position.

>No, there are endless examples
Give me five.

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Still canon, cry more.
Also, NV is a Beth game, you can't have it both ways.

Are you done yet?

no hes right. thats AI not a robot

>Also, NV is a Beth game

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>literally a random computer that reprogrammed itself by watching recordings of presidents
>Willingly shuts itself down when confronted with the fact that a computer ruling over humanity as a dictator violates the basic precepts of democracy it was trying to uphold.

It's shitty as fuck writing on bethesdas part part that is neither "THE MOST ADVANCED AI" nor it being notoriously unreliable.

On top of that, you have to be a huge backstabbing traitor to go any of the other routes.

I never really bothered with companions in this game. I usually let that black guy kill Cass and I use Veronica for easy access into the Brotherhood Bunker and then dispose of her along with the rest of the Brotherhood after I get Power Armor training.

>Also, NV is a Beth game
this guy is retarded. you debates have been shit and you robot conversation failed.

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Or stop fucking with procreation in general.
The laissez fair approach is already proving effective.
10/10 lasses only want to date 10/10 lads, frustrating /r9k/ incels with no end.
10/10 lads only want to date 10/10 lases, frustrating tumblr landwhales with no end as well.
The beautiful thing here is while the obvious solution for both of them would actually be dating each other, they don't. Part of it is that they think that they are way up higher in the tier list than they actually are. Also they refuse to do basic sprucing (which is evolutionary speaking very important in procreating) like taking a shower occasionally.
The continued failings of getting a partner without putting any effort behind it leads to them being utterly frustrated with the other sex, which makes it even less likely for them to procreate.

So hands off any eugenic bullshit. With sexual liberation this problem will solve itself within a hundred years.

The Assaultron in FO4 in the junkyard
The Mr. Handy butchering a medical procedure, resulting in the death of the "patient"
NIRA
COUNTLESS robots encountered THROUGHOUT the games malfunction, often to comedic result
Are you done yet?

Actually the robots in the fallout universe kick ass. all the pre-war were terrifying and liberty prime was a huge example of what engineers could do.

they might seem rustyed down and a little shitty now but you have to realize this is set in the FUTURE now. most people cant even fix their damn shoes.
but the people who are intelligent in the lore of fallout can easily tone/fix up a robot so dont understand what you mean by *THEY'RE ALL SHIT* this is not the case at all.

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In one of the endings for the Kings, it says that the kings attacked NCR citizens and Mr House saw this as a sign of loyalty, which could eventually become an agreement. The Followers don't have the backbone to resist Mr House so with enough power he could just force them to become a clinic.

Sexual liberation won't fix shit cause people just fuck with birth control, and only have one child at 40 if that.

Beth still oversaw its development you cretin

I like the upbeat message of this, but its a bit too naive. The Khans despise authority, so there is almost 0 chance of them peacefully integrating into the greater mojave society. Furthermore their escapades across NCR have already established a deeply engrained hatred among NCR citizens, persecution will likely happen on both sides. Vertibird schematics are unknown to everyone short of the enclave remnants, and bear force one is so old and decrepit its probably not much use as a reference. If only it could end up that way, though that would be a satisfying conclusion to the wasteland

>he couldn't even name five
>one is literally in the garbage
Yeah, those robots are truly notorious.

Obsidian's game

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hes a moron going in circles.
he has no valid points
He does though

hmm... i want to say... basado. yes, definitely basado! mayhap with a heaping helping side of epicsauce?

The point I was trying to make is that these robots now have personalities ergo they are still prone to the same errors in judgement humans are.

They fail all the time, not to mention somebody has to actually rebuild the robots for House since he cannot do it himself. Is he going to use robots that are barely function to fix other robots that are not functioning?

You cannot have an economy of robots. The argument was fallacious and now I'm getting berated by people because they think I'm attacking their favorite robot or something when I'm trying to point out that a recurring theme throughout the games is that the robots were clearly rushed and poorly designed, as well as all the other technology which was meant to be a commentary on American consumer culture

Sorry you missed it guys

its cool that we have rockets and advance technologies oh well time to go back to my cave and try to suck the water off walls to survive
Thats how you sound right now.

He doesnt say that stuff because that goes without saying if the courier had said "but what about food,water,etc" house would've realized that the single digit number on his screen wasnt his cpu temp it was your IQ

house confirmed for elon musk

I didn't have to name any. You sound like you didn't really play the games or pay attention to the things the robots said and did.

His point was that Mr House could have robot employees, and he's right. You don't see securitrons malfunctioning without outside interference, and he could just use Benny as an example not to interfere.

The Followers are incredibly upstanding in their morals. They aren't fighters but they do have a strong backbone.
Seeing as how even during the game the Followers and House are in conflict (trying to bug his network) I don't see them staying for long. House doesn't care about them in the slightest and the followers have trouble standing even the NCR's lenient authority.

>I didn't have to name any
Just as well, since you can't ROFL

Playing through Dead Money I honestly feel bad for Vera and Sinclair. I can't bring myself to not kill Dean since he's basically responsible for the entire tragedy all because Sinclair was living in his head rent free.

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And the robots are easily hacked or otherwise disposed of....?

House needs humans and his goals are aligned with restoring humanity to its former glory, not jumpstarting the singularity.

Are you done being disingenuous child?

Yes, the countless examples of century+ old robot's circuits failing. Its almost as if machines degrade over time. The mr handy you referred to, was that the one in Novac? because that one was an experimental model. The robots arent these "notoriously unreliable" pieces of machinery you seem to think they are. There are very few pieces of electrical technology that last more than 100 years without falling apart due to lack of maintenance.

>Vera
Is a money hungry whore who betrayed Sinclair.
>Sinclair
Autistic fuck.

>Why the fuck would I want to kill off the entire BoS?

He flat out tells you why. They are self righteous zealots who want to deny technology to any but themselves. They utterly refuse to compromise their zealotry, even in the face of oblivion. House knows they will never accept a truce with him but with their understanding of advanced technology remain one of the few legitimate threats to his plans. They have to go.

Also stop idolizing them because of Fallout 3 and the East Coast Brotherhood. The BoS have always been techno-tyrants and even the East Coast chapter eventually abandoned chivalry to return to true form once Lyons died. They have a few good natured characters but that doesnt make up for the fact that the BoS is and always will be assholes. Fuck em.

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Thats true, he could just sack their medical texts, repogram some securitrons to be medics, evict the Followers, then be done with it?

FUCK
HOUSE
No gods, No masters.

>The BoS have always been techno-tyrants
this

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You're basically proving my point for me.
House needs humans to rebuild those robots. The robots can't actually keep an economy together, and House is far more interested in restoring humanity.

Thank you for playing.

What makes you think the Robots are easily hacked? 1 hacked Securitron?

Countless examples throughout the games of robots being easily hacked or otherwise disposed of, sometimes due to their own failure?

Again, you sound like you haven't played any of the games hoping to prove some point.
Protip: you don't have a point.

Oh boy
First, birth control has nothing to do with sexual liberation, sexual liberation is choosing the partner you like without getting ganged up by family and moralists.
Second the reason why people have children with 40 is because the current socio-economic environment grinds you fucking down and leave little space for children.
Children don't happen just like that. It requires accumulating capital and pin point precision as to when you are ready to have it.
In a capitalist society, where you can pass days without seeing your wife (expect asleep in the bed) because you work in different shifts, it's hard to raise a child in between and children cost a lot of money and time for the wife.
Sorry, but I can tell you don't have an adequate understanding about what adult life contains, so I urge you even more to stay away from such matters. I mean how can you be ideological at something you have no concept about in the first place?

This you?

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Because House is actually an egotistical backstabber. Good job.

The only robot that fits your "rushed and poorly designed" description would be the Mr. Handy series of robots. Protectrons and sentry bots are more than reliable and capable of doing the jobs they are tasked with. The only robots specifically given "personalities" upon their creation were the handy-types. Its why Mr. Gutsy spouts propaganda as he speaks, and why household butlerbots act like english gentlemen. Skynet and a few other bots are some of the only to have developed sentience, and they are the exception.

How does other robots being easily hacked mean Securitrons are easily hacked? If Securitrons were easy to hack, you would think there would be a quest for one of House's opposing factions where you would have to hack some securitrons to Weaken house, but you never do that.

Those protectrons and sentrybots fail too, again it sounds like YOU haven't actually played any of the games or explored the wasteland

Egostistical? Sure but wouldn't you be if you accurately predicted the apocalypse and was the only person to not only save yourself but an entire fucking city from the nukes.
Backstabber? fuck no he never betrays anyone. If anything he's too trusting of others.

Again as a HouseCHAD
>House knows they will never accept a truce
Is kinda cringe. The BoS is made up of people, and there is no reason House, or The Courier through House, couldn't influence them and make an in for House to influence the entire faction.

It's actually on you to explain how they aren't since they're hacked pretty easily in game canon or otherwise taken down with EMPs. Their sensors malfunction, causing them to shoot at ANYTHING that approaches...

The list goes on.
Go replay the games. You'll feel like an absolute moron for suggesting that House would ever rely purely on robots when he's trying to jumpstart an economy for humans with himself at the top.

Also the original BoS are good guys.

If you want to go by in-game logic then the majority of robots require a character with high science to hack. The exceptions are machines controlled directly through a terminal. Furthermore people with computer skills are pretty uncommon in the wasteland outside of organized factions, its not as if just anyone can hack a protectron. Ditch the smugness you faggot, nothing stimulates a discussion like some autist looking down on others from his tower of bullshit

>Ditch the smugness faggot
lmao while you're acting like a smug faggot? self-awareness not a strongsuit of yours champ?

It's almost like you didn't pay attention while playing the games. People versed in technology are not as rare as you try to imply in the FOU.

Thanks for playing.

There’s a mod that re-adds the speech check into the game and allows you to spare them.

Aaaah yes, all those rare EMP weapons amounting to what, pulse grenades and zap gloves? Direct fire EMP weapons were still in prototype phases when the war started, and tesla cannons are about as rare as talking deathclaws. Please explain how they are hacked "easily"? I totally understand that the robots are fallible, but its up to YOU to explain why its done "easily".

It's not retarded, it's self-evident. The writer's are not espousing this belief. House is an unstable, traitorous cretin. By listening to his speech and recognizing it for the garbage it is you have learned who the character House really is, not the writers of the game.

>Is kinda cringe. The BoS is made up of people, and there is no reason House, or The Courier through House, couldn't influence them and make an in for House to influence the entire faction.
did you even play Veronica's story? There is NO way that anybody could convince the brotherhood to branch out, every leader says that they'd rather die out than accept outsiders. That's the whole point of Veronica's story line. It's why she leaves, and it's why House wants them gone.

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Yeah they're super rare you can pick them up in shops

Thank you for playing!

bringe

You need 80 Science to hack the Securiton at The Strip North Gate. I think only a handful people have a Science skill that high.

Yeah that's one example of a robot that works and conveniently, it's one that's been maintained by House and/or an employee of House.

You still are not proving that the wasteland isn't chock full of barely function robots that frequently malfunction? And House is gonna fix 'em all himself from that little pod that protects his frail ass old body?

Thank you for playing.

>I mean I cant give any examples whatsoever, but yeah ur rong.
The majority of protectrons and sentrybots are security, just because a sentry bot thats 200 years old lights you up with a minigun doesnt mean its programming has "failed", its actually proof that its well made. It detects that you dont have your badge (It'll save your life) or are trespassing, and engages you. There are definitely examples of them going haywire, like the metro ticket bots in FO3, but I cant really think of any other instances where they malfunctioned and turned hostile. Please, enlighten me

I am not the guy you're discussing with.

I already gave 5 examples more than I'm required to give. Anybody who has played this game can remember at least one instance where they thought "ha, dumb robot" and it's because they are dumb robots CANONICALLY.

Cry about it more lol!

The only pulse gun in the game is inside the Vault 34 armory, user.

>not pro-house
that's the cringiest option and for gays

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>The BoS is made up of people

The whole point of the BoS is that they are a impenetrable military hierarchy based upon dedication to orthodoxy and immune to outside influence or rational behavior. Thus why they literally choose to die rather than coexist with the NCR. The BoS are beyond salvation and chose oblivion over adapting to reality. Elder Elijah is supposed to personify the Brotherhood; they just cant let go and their single mindedness eventually leads to their doom.

>what are pulse grenades
>implying in-universe people couldn't make an EMP after fixing shit like Liberty Prime

ty for playing fren

Based for having a personality instead of being a sexual deviant like most gay representation
He destroyed enemy mobs better than Boone
Also his quest was pretty fucking cool

I hate House, but your argument is based off of a single plan that he explains to you. Who gives a shit if the NCR wasn't around? House would have another fucking plan. He'd probably just rape everything around him like it was fucking Starcraft.

You can only buy a handful of pulse grenades at a time, even then it would be pretty useless since the other securitrons there would desintigrate you in a second.

I initially sided with House until I realized the guy seemed a bit egotistical and unstable. I realized after 200 years in that pod the dude has lost his fucking mind and put him out of his misery. I then took over NV and led it to Mars under the name House.

>I killed house to do the exact same thing he was gonna do anyways

Cass not putting out made no sense. Everyone else had a reason to not be interested but Cass had casual sex with strangers, is the courier canonically an incel

What relevancy does it have to the robots being poorly built and malfunctioning all the time though?

r/fallout

>I gave you five wrong answers so I've already proven my lack of critical thinking
Thank you

Kind of pretentious but that was the point. I liked him but I preferred Raul, Rose and Boone.

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I dont really know, you're the one who brought it up saying EMP weapons are so good against bots despite being so rare. I understand its hard to keep track of all the stupid shit that comes out of your mouth, but do try a bit harder for the rest of us :)

My mistake was falling in your trap argument by even considering "sexual liberation" as a possible solution to anything.

Sexual liberation as you describe it (being able to pick your partners), wouldn't do anything to stop the rampant dysngenics happening with humans.

The degeneration of humans is happening because of civilization removing most of natural selection, and replacing it with no selection at all (anyone can survive and have kids if they wish).

Sexual liberation does nothing to fix this, only a form of eugenics that could simulate natural selection would work.

No, that means that Cass is a cock hungry whore who will sit on any dick when she is in mood.

They're not wrong, and if you're going to suggest that they are, it's on you to prove that they're wrong.

You can't actually prove that they're wrong (because they're not, they're five specific examples I actually had to look up to remember). I suppose that admittance is a double-edged sword but the simple fact is that there are many more specific examples I could give you. It wouldn't matter because you're pretty dead set on feeling "right" even if you're dead ass wrong.

Thanks for playing fren

They don't though. If that were the case I'm sure House wouldn't have built his army off of them. And Mr House knows infinitely more about robots than we do, he literally has a robotics company named after him.

House and his army are founded on advanced prewar tech. The NCR doesn't have anything all that fancy. Mojave NCR has power armor from the brotherhood and a train. House has a literal robot army, they could never let that slide, and if they did they wouldn't be the brotherhood anymore

Based but every time I gave him a two handed Energy weapon he would get that shit shot out of his hands despite having good stats

That dev guy who hates romances in video games did it on purpose

That's why i said i would use both the teachings of both Joshua and Daniel, to be kind and help out others and to be a brutal killing machine
when provoke or needed like killing Raiders and Fiends, New Canaanites can only spread their faith among the Mojave natives and help them rebuild again with the help of the followers but its up to them if they want to change and if they want to join, wont force shit on them like the Legion or Ncr they will find their way whatever may that,The Khans can choose to be bitter and hung up on to the past or they can focus on their future and be come better and stronger then what they were and maybe become an Ally same thing with the Kings or anyone that has hatred with the Ncr there are better things to do like making their living better, as for the Enclave remnants they can pass pm the knowledge that they can combine that with the boomers knowledge of flight and their simulations and the b-29, it would probably boost the odds of making a Vertibirds or mass producing bombers

>Stupid comment from a stupid poster implying other people are stupid because he's too stupid to understand words

also sorry but EMPs are obviously not that rare if you can find them across the United States

neat

They do though. I gave you examples of them failing, and you or someone else denigrated them because they shred your argument that robots in the FOU are dependable without HEAVY and extensive servicing.

It's almost like you guys forgot what you were initially arguing about, that House would build his empire using robots.
I pointed out why that was a bad idea and you all acted like insufferable faggots.
Then again, I did accidentally end up on Yea Forums

Lmao unfortunately that would never happen in canon
That is the most head canon fan fiction shit I’ve ever read

And in your final years when you see what you have wrought and are powerless to stop it, you realize it's No Gods, No Masters.

Nigger you can find diamonds in Arkansas, by your logic you think that they arent rare in the states.

Give me multiple examples of Securitrons malfunctioning without any outside interference.

They're not. Diamonds being rare is the biggest scam ever pulled.

If you want confirmation it's five to ten seconds away in google or any other search engine of your choice!
Did you know that we can actually MAKE diamonds? Man!

Courier: *dies*

Why does reddit hate the BoS so much in FO4? They are the best option by far morally and militarily.

You give me multiple examples of robots behaving exactly the way they're supposed to without fucking something up

I'll be waiting.

Why would the fucking courier murder an entire BoS chapter? To go with house you have to roleplay an autistic character who is either completely devoted to House or who completely believes in the ends justifying the means regardless of personal risk.

probably not but i like to dream user, nothing wrong with that can you tell me why that wont work? im just curious

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The Strip

>FO4
Why are you here?

Arcade is a faggot, House all the way

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extensively serviced to maintain function
also not multiple examples
I see you struggle with reading.
next

Barter makes lockpicking obsolete. Melee in addition even more so.

Nice reading comprehension, I said diamonds in the STATES. And yes, artificial diamonds can be made with a surprisingly little amount of effort, but that isnt the point.

The best meme about NV is how House is yet another flawed character. He is the archetype of the detached loner with too much time on their hands and too many plans in their head, thinking their theoretical mastery and on paper plans will work in the dirty, gritty real world. The best part is it is even showed to the players directly; House never even finished his will because he's so egotistical he doesn't think he will die anyway, and that he will be the immortal demigod that rules the world from a single city while larger nations and powers could easily destroy them if they chose to.

The best part is dumbasses on Yea Forums see themselves just as him, and that he's the best hope for humanity in that universe, because they see him as themselves. It's hilarious.

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Or you could just roleplay as a mercenary who doesn't care about the agenda but chose House because he can shell out the most caps

>I have no interest in abusing others
tell that to vault 21

probably not actually all that rare given that one of the biggest volcanoes on the planet resides here
not knowing something isn't there doesn't mean it isn't there

next?

So to you sexual liberation = birth control and brith control = the reason for low birth rates? You honestly and unironically believe this? Then sorry, you are the last person who should be in charge of societies procreation.
If you mean not letting uggos procreate it's already happening, to the dismay of /r9k/ and tumblr.
Life has been fucked enough with already, and finally people stopped fucking with it.

They did behave exactly the way they were supposed to though, you don't see Freeside jet junkies running around the Strip shooting people.

>Who cares about re-igniting R&D and space exploration? Food, Water, Shelter, Clothing, Medicine, Physical Security, & Rule of Law are the things the wasteland needs, not a tunnel-visioned silicon valley technocrat

Congratulations, you just illustrated why mankind will never colonize space.

>ooga booga space ships is racist, spend on da black community welfare nigga yuy yuy

So long as people like you exist we'll die out on this rock, and we'll die out as a mongrel race devoid of all dignity.

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Confirmed struggles with reading comprehension

it's not a bad thing, what use are the Brotherhood to anyone except themselves? They literally put you in an explosive slave collar when you first meet them.

Did you even read my post? It said nothing about birth control you dumb nigger

why would a mercenary wanna fight against the entire BoS chapter and risk dying when he could just much more easily just kill House still have money still get the Gommorah pussy, also isn't House kinda dumb for putting himself into a situation where his rule is 100% depenant on the loyalty of this one guy who could pull the plug at any moment?

Half the Vault 21 dwellers supported House though

>The Strips 20+ robots aren't enough
Victor
Festus
Security bots all across the wasteland
Fisto
Muggy
I dont know why I am replying to this obvious bait, but you my goat, give you that.

>taking House at his word
>applying 20th century capitalism to a post-apocalyptic retro future
Degenerates like you belong on a cross

You asked me for an example of robots working exactly as they were intended to, and i did.

I will never understand the lack of agency characters like this have. If you are going through AAAALLL the fucking effort to do this shit the hard way for CAPS, for MONEY, wasting so much of your life building these skills, amassing these resources necessary for running a merc company... then why the fuck would you be working for House? Work for yourself.

They're not. He's not going to build an empire off of 20 robots.

Are you mentally retarded?

>Congratulations, you just illustrated why mankind will never colonize space.
Your first mistake was assuming things are accomplished by "mankind" and not certain members of mankind. Most people on this planet are hopelessly poor and stupid, and all they can accomplish is "survive." Even still many fail.
You are correct to recognize that the niggers of this planet (of all races) will hold back the great men, you just need to recognize that certain people, certain races, certain dreams are inherently exclusive.

Enclave Remnants were 100% done and possibly KIA at the Hoover Dam battle. Most of them were also living regretful lives so they wouldn’t be keen on giving advanced tech or knowledge to the people that destroyed their past life.
New Canaan probably wouldn’t flourish if all of its people were on the move, it’s hinted they get fucked pretty badly in the flee ending so they probably wouldn’t actively be trying to teach their culture to Mojave Fiends or Freeside greasers since they are also looking to chart their own unclaimed land they can call their own. Just my take on it.

>multiple examples

You struggle with reading it seems.

>Why would the fucking courier murder an entire BoS chapter?

It's just a job? And the BoS are assholes? Literally every faction and the average wastelander has a negative opinion of them. Literally nobody mourns their loss if you wipe them out. BoS dug their own grave and practically tossed themselves into it.

yeah fucking this House thinks everyone is literally retarded and is too autistic planing shit that will never happen when in reality most people who play fallout nv will betray the faggot at first opportunity and laugh at his arrogance shoot up his decrept corpse body

OK, now I know you are trolling

Because he could just chill in the Lucky 38 living in luxury and not giving a shit about everyone else just for a little bit of trouble.

All this projecting and you failed to realize the game tells you outright he succeeds, if you dont kill him.

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Part of the main quest for both house and yeah boi is reactivating houses private production facility and churning out thousands of the things.

Fallout Space Tech is primitive as fuck so it’s laughable and if your answer is to abandon earth you are the definition of a cop out.

yeah that was my first thought too
they show that he lives up to his words in every way and we still get faggots like that guy

>mfw I activated their self-destruct by hacking a computer and then walked out

Why would a mercenary want to take over the Strip?

I hope you made the right choice and exterminated all of the White Legs instead of running away from Zion like a pussy, you wouldn't want to disappoint Randall Clark would you?

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I know that.
But who reactivated the facility?
Who's going to operate it?
If the answer to those questions wasn't "House himself" or "House's Robot" then you have no point. My ENTIRE POINT is that House cannot do any of this stuff without YOU the player doing it for him.
House is fucking HELPLESS without you, an army of 20 robots isn't going to do shit for him.

t. never picked the house ending

This game is so boring to me that I simply cannot play it for more than 30 minutes without wanting to play something else.

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Crazed. Binge.

>Joshua Graham with no speech check turns the Dead Horses into deadlier White Legs
Based

BoS are like 30 dudes in power armor turrets and other shit in tight corridors it's basically suicide mission if the mercenary did meet Veronica and had her as a companion then he has no reason to kill the BoS because he knows them and knows that they aren't a threat or even bad people if the character met Veronica and the BoS but is evil and amoral then he will still not fight 30 power armoired dudes by himself out of self preservation and instead kill house and eat gommorah pussy if he didn't meet Veronica never had her as a companion then he didn't meet the Brotherhood and has no reason to kill random people he never met based on the whims of a fucking cunt in a cryobed whom the character can murder at any opportunity

absolutely fucking based

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seeThe mercenary could just do an infilitration job

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Fuck House. He is not in charge, I'm in charge if I can unplug him from his cuckshed then I'm the Boss and not him. Might Makes Right House Faggots.

all the more reason to pick the House ending. You can put an end to him whenever you please, so you might as well kick your feet up and let the brain in a jar take care of things.

so minus the Enclave remnants that still leaves the Boomers and their flight simulations and and lone bomber i mean if the courier were to make friendly reactions with them and set everything up like the trade deal between them follower and gun runners and made factories you think it would still be possible? im looking for criticisms with my Spreading the Mormon faith to the Mojave idea? i want to seem realistic if possible
Thanks brother

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You arent immortal. He is. He can ensure New Vegas continues to thrive while you cant do shit once the Courier dies 50 years after Hoover Dam

Both Courier and House are immortal. Both of them could still be alive when House would've started his space program

The Courier was swift and brutal in his savage campaign across the Wasteland; All fell before him, and the Wasteland was left leaderless. He turned his attentions to the east, leaving only chaos, destruction and death in his wake.

People still buying into House's bullshit like they didn't even listen while playing the game.

Replay it with a mature mind and see how wrong you are. He's just as bad as NCR and Legion, only smoother with his words.

Only people who don't know how wrong Ayn Rand was would think House has good intentions.

fallout.fandom.com/wiki/MrHouse.txt
Read his actual dialogue dumbass. He's the only one with a concrete plan reaching years ahead

>if the mercenary did meet Veronica and had her as a companion then he has no reason to kill the BoS because he knows them

The Brotherhood shits on Veronica and if you have any fondness for her you practically can't wait to torch their hole. And NCR Rangers, let alone the Courier, are more than capable of taking on BoS knights.

>then he didn't meet the Brotherhood and has no reason to kill random people he never met

Everybody knows who the Brotherhood are and despises them in the Mojave. The BoS historically did everything they could make themselves pariahs in the eyes of the average Mojave denizen.

nothing fucking happens in the House ending that special tho? Nothing worth genociding the BoS chapter for.
No it's because he is a fucking arrogant faggot who says he will be a Benevolent Tyrant and have the final say on everything. Well Mr. Tyrant you can't be all powerful when there's a flaw in your master plan that you clearly cannot see and his shock at your betrayal when you pull him out of the cuckshed really signifies how out of touch and brain rotten that dude has become. Ceasar had legates and Pratorians killing him was not easy not even necessary and killing the NCR ladership is just pointless because the main character gets nothing out of it unless he's in the Legion. Killing House is just taking out a mafia boss and doing everyone in the Wasteland a favor nobody would even notice .

>brainlet eternally seething that there exists someone that doesn't treat the Courier like a Messiah the second they meet

imagine having such little faith in humanity that you run shabos goy errands or this guy purely out of faith in Technocratic dictatorship.
youtube.com/watch?v=_VR0AV2uypQ

Yikes

Based and unironically one of the if not the only well written gay character in video game history. Its honestly embarrassing how poorly written gay characters are in video games

All sodomites are cringe.

Can anyone help a brainlet, I have ttw installing now, as long as a mod says it supports ttw do I just use a new Vegas mod manager? Or do I have to do things manually?

it's because in order for a character to be "gay" they have to act "gay" in a way. If you make a character that just goes through the story and shows no attraction to anyone, for no other reason than that they didn't had more important priorities than getting laid at the time, then they aren't considered "gay". Therefore in order to make a character "gay" you have to make them show attraction to another character of the same gender, now here is where things get difficult but not really. If you make a game, it has a plot, and the characters are usually invested in that plot, most characters will ignore romance, some will have some romantic subplots and maybe the main character will have a romantic interest throughout the game. But then you throw a "gay" character into the mix. Remember the thing that makes a character gay is a romantic interest in another character, but the thing with a "gay" character is that due to this romance being essential, it becomes extremely glaring and this romance becomes huge, leading to "gay" characters coming of as gay first and a character second, not to mention that how the whole "gay" character plot intrudes on the rest of the game and breaks the flow of it as there aren't any real big romances except for this one faggot who gets so much attention for no reason other than he's gay.

Probably baringe and maybe crased

I 100% agree, its mostly down to the actual depth of the character, when someone writes a shallow character it usually is just some flamboyant faggot or super assertive lesbian, but when you take a character like arcade its much easier to make it not forced as fuck. Sexuality is overall a really bland character trait regardless so its not really that big a deal but seeing the sheer amount of poorly written characters come out of it is just sad

Arcade without a doubt had the best companion quest in the game so i would have to say based af senpai

Based. House-Gang RISE UP!