you have to cut at least 20 characters in this roster or the next smash game is just as bad as sm4sh, who do you cut?
You have to cut at least 20 characters in this roster or the next smash game is just as bad as sm4sh, who do you cut?
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Marth, and every mario, zelda, and pokemon character
Mii Brawler
Mii Swordsman
Mii Gunner
Chrom
Roy
Lucina
Corrin
Doctor Mario
Pichu
Young Link
I would personally cut more than 20, that way the game could even top ultimate
>puff
>daisy
>ice climbers
>sheik
>Dr mario
>pichu
>young link
>Roy
>chrom
>mr G&W
>dark pit
>zss
>snake
>Lucas
>R.O.B
>Toon link
> wft
>Rosalina
>greninja
>DH
>Ryu
>ken
>cloud
>Corrin
>Simon
>richter
>incineroar
>plant
>joker
>hero
>banjo
;)
inb4 furry fucks rage about falco
cut all of them except kirby
can't be bottom tier if you're the only character
>cutting Luigi
bro what are you doing?
Just the essential.
Dark Samus
Jigglypuff
Daisy turns into a skin
Sheik
Dr Mario
Pichu
Falco
Lucina turns into a skin
Young Link
Roy turns into a skin
Chrom turns into a skin
Dark Pit turns into a skin
Zero Suit Samus
Lucas turn into a skin
Greninja
Ken turns into a skin
Cloud
Corrin
Richter turns into a skin
Isabelle turns into a skin
Incineroar
If anyone is wondering why I don´t want dark samus as a skin, it´s because she deserves to be her own unique character and being a clone was a shit decision. She was more unique and in-line with her character back when she was a fucking assist trophy
>young link
>essential
I think more than 20 characters will need to be cut for Smash 6. I think we'll see the franchise pull a Mortal Kombat with a back to basics approach and we'll have 30ish characters and then 5-10 more as DLC.
Here a fixed roster
Fixed it, these are the essential
;)
>cutting robin while keeping roy
Yes user, I agree with you, 30 characters (no retro but maybe one or two third party) with 5-10 as a dlc, a veteran pack and a newcomer pack.
Forgot to link the picture, I’m such a dickhead rofl.
here is a fixed roster
I don't care for the next smash. This one is good enough.
>Ryu not essential
WOW fuck off
Megaman is essential to represent Capcom enough, we don’t need ryu.
Megaman is absolutely irrelevant in current year
That was easier than I thought. And I still didn't even cut all the clones. I could probably do another 5 or 10 before it hurt.
Gatornigger would be the first one I'd remove for sure.
Nostaliga faggots should KYS asap. No one gives two shits or knows about some faggot gator from 1935 when your parents weren't divorced.
Literally should have never got in smash. Bayonetta got in because she was relevant and a recent game release, not some literal who green shit.
>inb4 muh rob muh pacman muh duck hunt
Icon characters of different eras or mascot characters. No one gives two shits about literal who the gator
That doesn’t matter, he’s more iconic that fucking ryu.
If you added Dedede, Wario, Diddy and Banjo Melee would actually be perfect
Ignore protoman
Kys, nobody cares about your copypasta!
K rool is a mainstay now, so is Ridley, fucking jump if
Fucking jump off a bridge
he'll be removed in the next game.
he had to be in base Ultimate because no one gives enough a fuck about him to pay for him. face facts
Back then yes, but now, fuck no!
>Jigglypuff
>Dr. Mario
>Pichu
>Lucina
>Young Link
>Roy
>Chrom
>Mr. Game & Watch
>Dark Pit
>Squirtle
>Ivysaur
>Lucas
>Lucario
>R.O.B.
>Toon Link
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Greninja
>Bowser Jr.
>Corrin
>Richter
>Incineroar
>Piranha Plant
You again...alrighty here we go;)
Flaws
>Pauline as a semi clone for peach
>Fawful over bowser jr
>Yoshi is fine, but fuck the babies
>Diddy and Dixie in one
>Chorus kids over karate joe
>keeping Mr G&W and R.O.B, the next game won’t have hardware reps
>Olimar and Louie in one character and a fucking plasma wraith, Olimar is fine representing pikmin alone
>falco would probably be a costume
>too many third party, sonic and Pac-Man are the only third party (namco do develop the next game and Pac-Man represents the arcade era and sonic because he’s sonic.
Flaws with costumes
> baby fucking Luigi
>Brittany...nah we’ll probably keep alph.
Pic related is it fixed with the flaws I mentioned.
Cringe. Is your goal to ruin smash?
No, that’s banjo, he’s paid because it’s him who won’t return.
banjo is someone people actually recognize unlike Gatorfuck
>le generic karate man cringe again
kys.
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No it’s to improve a reboot.
Everyone ignore this autist. He’s already admitted that he doesn’t play any of the games related to these character yet claims to know best on how to represent them. He has no credibility.
>the face of the fighting game genre who dominated arcades worldwide and who's best game selling game sold 15 million units
vs
>an irrelevant outdated anime boy who's best selling game sold 1.5 million units and who's newest game made ZERO splash
okay
By making it as boring as possible? You’d removed the most interesting ones. The game actually needs to SELL you know.
You mean fat autistic boomers, the people who recognise him and don’t deserve him.
Literally anyone today can tell you who Banjo is without even playing his game. Then there's this ugly fatso who appeared in donkey kong country for five minutes. no one gives two fucks and no one should.
>Yoshi
>Jigglypuff
>Lucina
>Roy
>Chrom
>Ike
>ROB
>Robin
>Corrin
>Isabelle
>Miis
These are characters I just don't like and if you do That's ok
>Inceineroar
nobody, cutfags
i like smash 4
>Dark Samus's best chance would have been Brawl as an emissary of Prime in general
Replace Pichu with a real Gen II mon like Heracross or Tyranitar, replace Falco with Wolf and lose Roy and we're ok. Also make Ganondorf play like Ganondorf
Remove clones and superfluous bullshit. I left Incelroar in but maybe he can go too. Only needs to be one Animal Crossing rep, I left Isabelle in, maybe Villager would be better, idk.
But this is my ideal roster.
I always will wonder what Melee Wario would of been like. Sakurai had stated that Wario wouldn't of been a clone and there was no biker Wario Ware ebin fart man at the time
>keeping any Marth clones
>Mii fighters
>Joker
>Piranha Plant
>Lucina
>Crom
>Roy and/or Marth
>Corrin
>Toon Lonk
>Daisy
>Greninja
>Pokemon Trainer
>ICs (Because nintendo will NEVER figure out how to make them work properly)
>Shulk
>Pichu
>Isabelle
>Dark Pit
>Lucario
>Dark Samus
>Jigglypuff
>Daisy
>Dr. Mario
>Pichu
>Lucina
>Young Link
>Roy
>Chrom
>Dark Pit
>Ike
>Ivysaur
>Squirtle
>Lucario
>Toon Link
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Rosa and Chico
>Grenigger
>Bowser Jr.
>Ken
>Corrin
>Richter
>Isabelle
>Incelroar
More than 20 but you can't refute this.
>still keeping fucking gooigi
user, please fix your shit already
Not him but what’s wrong with Gooigi?
Cutfags are the worst type of people, but the roster is indeed going to be too big with too many licensing issues to ever bring literally everyone back again.
Therefore, the 20 that need to be cut are as follows:
Must Cut Tier (Characters that are unworthy of being in Smash again or have someone basically identical)
>Pichu
>Corrin
>Roy
>Toon Link
>Daisy (Make a costume like Alph)
>Lucina (Make a costume)
>Richter
>Dr. Mario (Costume)
>Dark Pit (Honestly don't even care, the worst addition to the game by far)
>Dark Samus (Costume, but sad to see go personally)
>Chrom
Should Cut Tier (Characters that make no sense to bring back, mostly due to roster bloating like Pokemon and licensing issues for 3rd parties, but will be absolutely missed)
>Snake
>Joker
>Banjo
>Hero
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Lucario
>Incineroar
>Grenninja
>Cloud
For the record, Ultimate will never be replaced and will be remembered as the best game in the series in ten years, and any game that removes Ridley, K. Rool, or Banjo will be noticeably worse and therefore as bad as Sm4sh by default
There are way too many Fire Emblem characters in the game, basically feels like Fire Emblem Fighters with Nintendo and Co.
For the record, before anyone gets in a frothing rage over my list, I would love a way to keep Snake and Banjo in, and honestly Wii Fit Trainer too. Maybe Wii Fit Trainer could stay and Ken could be removed. Or removing Lucas and by sheer luck keeping Snake. Banjo will never be back even if he's literally my favorite addition to the game unless Rare goes back to Nintendo
Dark Samus
Jigglypuff
Daisy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Marth
Lucina
Young Link
Chrom
Dark Pit
Zero Suit Samus
Lucas
Rosalina
Greninja
Palutena
Robin
Corrin
Incineroar
Mii Brawler
Mii Swordfighter
Mii Gunner
get rid of all the fire emblem characters like marth and shulk and if i have any left to cut I'll start taking pokemon
That hurt
easy
Not going to cut Echoes since that's borderline cheating.
>Jigglpuff
>Ness
>Lucas
>Captain Falcon
>Corrin
>Roy (And Chrom)
>Pichu
>Mii Brawler
>Mii Swordfighter
>Mii Gunner
>Villager/Isabelle (Cut one of them,keep the other)
>Cloud
>Young Link
>Toon Link
>R.O.B.
>Joker
>Shiek
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Marth
>Bayonetta
If you want to stop my shitposting you will need to either
>stop posting your shitty roster
>improve the roster taking my flaws into consideration.
A reboot would have a boring roster, just look at other fighting game reboots.
>Dark Samus
>Jigglypuff
>Daisy
>Dr Mario
>Pichu
>Lucina
>Young Link
>Roy
>Chrom
>Dark Pit
>Toon Link
>Wolf
>Greninja
>Ken
>Corrin
>Richter
>Incineroar
>Mii x 3
>Plant
There, that's 21 cut easily. Highly unlikely Cloud comes back again as I presume him and Snake were more of the handwringing ones, I'm sure Snake would be more likely to return as well but I could also see him not returning. If you desperately want to keep Wolf because of muh villains then whatever, maybe cut Falco then. Definitely don't need 3 reps from a dead IP.
Wtf are you smoking? Literally everyone knows K rool, he was the villain from a Nintendo game, Nintendo villains aren’t forgotten. Then there is this dumb bear from a N64 game that sold well, but was ruined when a rival company bought them out and did nothing with them...they were just slapped onto nuts and bolts so that doesn’t count.
I think he’ll actually stay, Luigi’s mansion 3 looks god and will probably sell well, trust me, he’ll be the next Rosalina/toadette appearing in absolutely everything.
>Literally everyone knows K rool
Keep telling that to yourself gatorfag
I choose to cut:
>Dark Samus
Free space is saved. This only happens if Prime 4 isn't a success.
>Dr. Mario
I dunno why honestly, but I think he is out
>Pichu
Lil guy had his chance
>Lucina and Chrom
This might be the most impactful one, people will be happy as fuck when less FE is in.
>Young Link
Only if OG Link is still based on Breath of the Wild
>Ganondorf
Not ACTUALLY Ganondorf, but his OoT design. They'll surely go for a BoTW design if the sequel has him.
>Dark Pit
As much as it pains me, he might go down.
>Snake
Konami gave the rights to him just because Everyone is Here had to occur. I wouldn't expect him until another Ultimate pops up in 30 years from now on.
>Squirtle & Ivysaur
Obvious one
>Lucas
I am afraid it might actually happen.
>Wii Fit Trainer
She got lucky this time.
>Rosalina & Luma
Very possible.
>Greninja and Incineroar
They were sponsoring the latest Pokèmon games in their generations, duh. Of course they're going out.
>Ryu, Ken and Cloud
Cloud is 100% out next game. Ryu has still a BIT of a chance though.
>Bayonetta
They will use Bayo 3 design next time, they won't remove her
>Inkling
They will pass to Splatoon 2's design or 3 if there is one in a handful of years.
>Castlevania reps and all SSBU DLC minus Plant
Very likely.
Whatever it’s literally the truth, stop been childish K rool is in and he’s here to stay.
Cloud, snake and ryu should be cut as third parties. They don't feel very Nintendo as they do not regularly appear on the platform, especially with SFV, FF7 remake and MGS5 not coming to switch
Pokemon need trimming, I think pika, Pokmeon trainer and mewtwo should be kept as they are 'Iconic' but to avoid gen1 pandering I think greninja should stay.
FE definately needs trimming and quite frankly the only candidate needed is marth,
when it comes to the mario series i feel like bowser jr has too many connections with the sterile NSMB games, even though he does appear in sunshine and galaxy he just feels more to me like a NSMB character and I don't care much for him. From a design standpoint rosalina is just a princess, always thought she was boring, her fighting gimmick being paired with luma is cool but there are so many more interesting mario characters like: E.Gadd, or someone from a mario RPG
Isabelle is more interesting to me than villager, she is an actual character as opposed to a blank slate the player customises like the villager.
Wii ft trainers and Miis should STAY. Smash is a celebration of nintendo and the wii period was defined by miis and to an extent wii fit, you may not like those games and neither do I but they are a very important part of nintendo history
"who do you main bro?"
"Mario, what about you?"
"I'm more of a "random" kinda guy"
>Roselina was shilled heavily because the Mario Galazy games were massive
>Toadette is constantly shilled lately because she's the only established mushroom person that doesn't have a colour in her name
Gooigi will probably only stay in the Luigi titles
(continued)
Retro pandering is always 8-bit which is why i feel like a decision needs to be made between ROB and duck hunt. I guess with banjo now in the game duck hunt is less interesting so I picked ROB. Characters i'd like to see added to this are:
Banjo-> Obvious nintnedo history
Erdrick-> DQ started with nintendo, the history is undeniable
Geno -> Cuz fuck you ;)
>That hurt
It better have, keeping any Marth clones is a crime
cut all of them except the og 8 and fill the rest with new characters
I'd rather have the next Smash game have all the characters (plus more) and be on par with Smash 4, honestly.
>Gooigi will probably only stay in the Luigi titles
You say this but E.Gadd was in the first two Mario and Luigi games.
Why does everyoe think Konami wouldn't let them use Snake in Smash 6? The only reason he wasn't in 4 was because of the whole Kojima being fired at the time and that was a much much bigger legal mess when no one really knew who owned the MGS franchise at the time. Now that MGS is a Konami thing, they'll let anyone use it for the right price
Your taste is rather bad, I respect what you said, but some stuff you say is likely to happen next game, not giving any examples as they should be obvious.
Hmm.
Ness
Lucas
every Pokemon besides Pikachu, Jigglypuff and the Trainer Trio
every FE besides Robin
Young Link
Toon Link
Isabelle
Dark Pit
Olimar
Bayonetta
and I don't know, Falco I guess.
>literally the truth
Keep telling that to yourself gatorfag
Yet Nintendo refuse to acknowledge E.Gadd even in the Kart and Party games despite him still having fans to this day
Incineroar
Greninja
Dark Samus
Marth
Palutena
Dark Pit
Hero
Piranha Plant
Villager
Toon Link
Jigglypuff
Bowser Jr.
Olimar
Wii Fit Trainer
Zero Suit Samus
Pichu
Duck Hunt
Bayonetta
Diddy Kong
Fighters Pass Character 4
Alph
Get tf off the board, you’re an underage faggot who just can’t accept a Nintendo villain who should have been in smash since fucking brawl, finally got in.
But you only hurt the roster?
>fighters pass character 4...
Why 4, do you have a hate boner for the number 4
Why not them all?
Why not any?
I always thought the point of cuts was to not make the roster look so cluttered and confusing. I would just make changes to how it's set up with characters that are too similar to each other.
Echoes are fine if they're accessible from a character you choose that is similar to them. Maybe make Young Link and Toon Link skins of normal Link instead. Make Starfox members skins of the same character maybe, like how Hero is? Then you can add more that the furfags wanted, like Krystal. Marth clones just need to be together somehow. I like Isabelle but I chose Incineroar over her because Incineroar is a lot more unique in moveset.
Get tf off the board, you’re an overage faggot who just can’t accept a Nintendo nobody who hasn't been in a video game since fucking DK64, shouldn't have got in.
I've got a bad feeling about 4, 5 will be great though.
Because I’m trying to get the message through, that a smash reboot will do exactly this to the roster.
>cutting olimar
Holy cringe
I’m done with you, I can’t be assed to argue with you because you’re such a retard.
says the gatorfaggot
I’ll screencap this, it will be remembered if fighter number 4 is good and 5 is bad.
The melee roster had so much soul, now it's corporate trash of literally whos
This is now your enemy, I will send this every time I see you from now on.
I guess, I dunno
Don't let it bother you, this whole thread is cringe.
all this time later no one even cares about him anymore
banjo will have more lasting power with fans. eventually they will both be removed.
>cutting R.O.B and DH
>But keeping IC and Mr G&W
Make up your mind, it’s either keep all or cut all...I recommend the latter.
>it’s either keep all or cut all
Why?
Fucking lies, lots of people play him, nobody will play banjo when he’s released, he looks like dogshit and is a guaranteed cut next game, k rool isn’t.
Real talk, why the fuck is Banjo playable? He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise
Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy, but this ugly bear who has only 5 games, 2 of which weren't even in Japan gets to be playable?
Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this
Cause they’re the retro characters, they haven’t been separated before (IC in smash 4 was due to limitations) if you cut one you cut them all if you keep one...then you’re a retrococksucker for keeping them all.
The bastard banjo will be cut next game and bomberman will be Konami’s only character, mark my words.
Or I could just do neither and not follow an arbitrary guideline.
Chrom, Roy, Lucina, Corrin
Dark Samus, Dark Pit, Richter
Ken, Bayonetta, Joker, Cloud
Dr. Mario, Piranha Plant, Daisy
Jigglypuff, Pichu, Young Link
Brawler, Swordfighter, Gunner
>Mario
>Luigi
>Link
>Donkey Kong
>Link
>Kirby
>Pikachu
>Samus
>Pac Man
>Sonic
>Ryu
>Snake
>Cloud
>Zelda
>Peach
>Bowser
>Ganon
>Megaman
>Marth
>Dr Mario
Keeping fox and yoshi as the only original 8...based.
more relevant than some fat fuck with an abbreviated first name, that's for sure.
Dark Samus
Falco
Jigglypuff
Daisy
Combine Zelda/Sheik again
Pichu
Lucina
Young Link
Chrom
Diddy
Lucas
Lucario
Wii Fit Trainer
Greninja
Pac Man
Bowser Jr.
Ken
Corrin
Richter
Isabelle
ez
Cut every popular character that isn't a part of the original 12 and replace them all with shill pick.
>tfw this copypasta is gatornigger 2.0.
Also
This isn’t a smash reboot thread, so you posting your precious dream roster is pointless, and I blame you for ruining this thread
I think it’s vice versa, pretty sure bomberman should be in over banjo copypasta came a week before the KutRool fag.
You were so close but you had to cut jigglypuff
>you have to cut at least 20 characters in this roster or the next smash game is just as bad as sm4sh, who do you cut?
At this point, just cut every third party character and you'll be fine.
>Lucina
>Chrom
>Roy
>Mii 1
>Mii 2
>Mii 3
>Dark Samus
>Pichu
>Dr. Mario
>Young Link
>Lucas
>Daisy
>Isabelle
>Ken
>Bayonetta
>Dark Pit
>Incineroar OR Greninja
>Toon Link
>Snake
>Simon OR Richter
>who do you cut?
Pichu, Lucina, Chrom, Dark Pit, Zero Suit Samus, Lucario, Robin, Bowser Jr, Cloud, Corrin, Isabelle, Incineroar.
>eight left
Fuck.
Daisy, Toon Link, Wii Fit Trainer, Rosalina, Greninja, Palutena, Piranha Plant, Joker.
And retro.
I'd rather have Toon Link over Young Link
>you have to cut at least 20 characters in this roster or the next smash game is just as bad as sm4sh.
that is incorrect
Ultimate's roster was supposed to be a slashed down 3/4 version of Smash 4's
next game will be even worse
>It’s another “Bro we need to trim the roster for nebulous reasons” thread
Reee I hate Fire Emblem do I fit in yet?
contrarian
>Jigglypuff
>Daisy
>Dr. Mario (could easily just be a Mario alt)
>Pichu
>Falco
>Lucina
>Young Link
>Roy
>Chrom
>Dark Pit (easy alt)
>Pokemon Trainer
>Lucas (your game's never getting an official english release anyway)
>Toon Link
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Greninja
>Ken
>Cloud
>Corrin
>Richter
>Incineroar
>Mii Fighters
>Piranha Plant
>Joker
the gatornigger poster provably thinks Sylux is an amazing pick
glad he'll be dead in MP4 while MP5 will feature chad Weavel
we only need one representative for each franchise. Then it becomes more of a gaming hall of fame
>Chorus Fags
hello gematsunigger
want me to remind you about "your good friend Shulk :)"?
I’d rather have none.
>the Miis
>Isabelle
>Ken
>Roy
>Chrom
>Lucina
>Corrin
>Daisy
>Dark Samus
>Incineroar
>Richter
>Shulk
>Dark Pit
>Palutena
>Pichu
>Jigglypuff
>WiiFit
>Dr Mario
>daisy
>dr mario
>lucina
>young link
>chrom
>game & watch
>dark pit
>ike
>lucario
>ROB
>toon link
>wii fit trainer
>rosalina
>palutena
>robin
>shulk
>bowser jr
>corrin
>bayonetta
>incineroar
>mii brawler
>mii gunner
>mii swordfighter
can all go and i would be just fine
Indeed ;)
the 100% SOUL ONLY roster
Fuck off, there never was 1 per franchise in the original smash, they’ll never do it.
Why are so many people sure mii’s should be cut, a create a fighter is almost a staple nowadays, why would smash of all series suddenly drop it.
Guys guys
We can talk about who we hate and who we want to cut. But we can all put aside our differences and agree that Corrin needs to be removed asap right?
>Any Pokemon but Pikachu and Jigglypuff
>Soul
like hell it is.
Yes, any shill marketing picks must be removed asap
What newcomers could they add for first party? I can only think of
>Funky Kong
>Doc Louis/King Hippo/Sandman
>Retro Ganon
>King Boo
>Black Shadow
>Loue
>Spring Man
>Porky
>Dixie
> koopa troopa that has all the various abilities from the koopas/hammer bros in the mushroom kingdom similar to how plant is now
Why do the Mii Fighters make cutfags seethe so much?
Nigga we have a lot of assist trophies ripe to be promoted.
cutting FE characters won't magically grant you your grandpa or gacha OC garbage either
>Dark samus
>Daisy
>Doctor Mario
>pichu
>Falco
>wolf
>lucina
>Y Link
>Roy
>Chrom
>Dark Pit
>Lucas
>T Link
>Corrin
>Simon or Richter
These are the ones I would cut or change to make more unique, except Corrin. Corn is fucking lame.
>Still need 5 more
>Wii fit
>Ken
>bowser Jr
>duck hunt
>Lucario
Nothing against these 5, but I needed 5 more characters
you mean the ones that are pending to be dropped eventually?
Dude I'm an FEfag and Corrin is the worst fucking lord in the entire series. NO ONE loves him.
>cutting every single fe rep with a unique moveset
>keeping roy
None. If even a single character is cut for any reasons other than the unlikely "we couldn't get the rights" reason, then it will be automatically worse than Smash Ultimate. Smash should be like DBZ Budakai Tenkaichi; the size of the roster is the attraction, not the perfect balance.
he's very popular in Japan
and Japan got Dragon Quest in
trivially easy
Only the female version is popular and that's because of waifufags and footfags. The actual character is irredeemable garbage.
>People in this are cutting Ike and Robin, but are keeping Roy
>Cuts Cloud and Hero but gets in Geno
lol
this right here is probably the only cut list i think i'd be fine with, literally nothing of worth was lost here and actually improves the quality of life in the roster, maybe even chuck palutena in there, more room for actual mascots and nintendo characters in the nintendo mascot fighting game
>highest character has only 198 votes
wow it's fucking nothing
>everyone in this thread cut Corrin.
Based
Do the Japanese even like him?
Everyone who wants to keep Jigglypuff in, why?
She is a terrible character mechanically and legacy-wise (only got in because she was an easy Kirby semiclone)
>Roy
>Dark Pit
>Rosalina
>Incelroar
And I’ll take the hit on the rest of the game. I figure 1/5 of the roster getting cut factors out to, I dunno, Home Run Contest? We can just cut the shit-ass single player modes & Spirit junk to make up for the slack, they were at their worst in Ultimate anyways.
You need to cut the Miis then. Wii Fit Trainer is already repping the Wii series.
I'd rather it play like Smash 4 that cut characters at this point. Removing fun content from the game just to appease a small group of competitive players, especially when balance can be fixed post-launch, is a terrible idea and would hold the game back.
>what is sampling
still more relevant than your grandpa characters
now cope
neck yourself foot nigger
Edited version of something I posted last thread.
Yep Official Nintendo magazine
not a single grandpa shit in sight either
>w-waaaah but muh porn bogeymanz!!!!
and still more popular than grandpashit
go jack off to your tranny Ike porn you adore so much.
This plus Fawful
Stupidly easy question
Tbh it would feel weird to have a game without her. She’s been around for so long. I’d only cut her If I’m forced to.
I’ve noticed Japanese are a lot more accepting of male characters intended to be sensitive/weak to fulfill a story purpose than westerners are, any weak male lead automatically fails in the US.
See also: Yiik western va Japanese reception
>geno will never get in
>sheik is shit and should be cut
>Isaac before waluigi and bandana dee...no
>fuck the retro reps, they shouldn’t be prioritised next smash.
>snake and banjo are unlikely to return.
>gais pls cut Fateswakening, i need my Reddit Knight and axe man
>it’s another cutfags thread in which everyone cuts Corrin
I’m sorry you folks can’t enjoy such a fun character because of some grudge back from the Wii U days. But please stay mad, it never ceases to bring me joy.
You can tell someone is retarded by just looking at the fire emblem characters they cut and kept
SEETHING
Impa is boring
Isaac has better chances than Camelot's failed mario OC
Bandana Dee is Krystal/Sylux-tier, some expectancy that never manage to get in anyways.
neck yourself you mentally ill footfag
KILL YOURSELF
FE characters are so popular and low effort there’s zero reason to cut any of them.
Corrin is a decent character but Fates was kind of shit so I don't have any attachment to the character enough for me to care if they're cut. I don't see a reason why they should be cut though.
remove all echoes or turn them into costumes
only 1 link
remove doctor mario, lucas, falco and any other clone character who doesn't count as an echo for some reason
remove all 3rd parties
remove the least played or least liked FE and Pokemon characters. so basically Corrin and Incineroar
and grandpa copes again
Black Knight is already getting over shadow by Death Knight and nobody will remember Ike's games or GBAshit by the time next Smash comes.
Corrin thread?
>cringe tier
>cut all characters except Marth and Roy
Mid tier
>cut all characters except Marth, Ike, and Robin
Based tier
> cut everyone except Ike
>keep the unique characters
>cut low effort echoes and clones
>”look at my trimmer down sequel roster!”
That’s now how it works, a lot of newcomers would be cut so they could retool veterans with different movesets and whatever new mechanic.
>cutting inkling
The first of Nintendo’s new IP’s in ages and is extremely successful. Cutting that is room temperature IQ level
>Impa is boring
She’s be more unique than sheik, and that’s fact
>Isaac has better chances than Camelot's failed mario OC
Even though he’s not the head anymore, reggie said they NOA is seeing the waluigi support, but not Issac’s, definitely think waluigi has a higher chance if the old head of NOA has recognised his support.
>Bandana Dee is Krystal/Sylux-tier, some expectancy that never manage to get in anyways.
This will change next game, mark my words.
>keeping the wrestling chad in
My nigger
I keep forgetting Lucario is in the game
Was this really needed?
I didn’t make the thread, but yes that seems like a serious issue.
Green Xs could potentially be changed to be straight up alt costumes of the original base character but if necessary, can still be straight up cut with no real loss.
Not shown:
cut Joker
keep Hero
keep Banjo-Kazooie
all red characters are characters who should be cut
green are maybes
for falco and wolf it would be cruel to have them both cut but one should be cut
come to think of it. Out of Mewtwo, Lucario and Greninja one should be cut
just TRY and argue against this
>She’s be more unique than sheik, and that’s fact
she's either a jobber, a spinoff swordie, or an old lady
Impa is shit
>Even though he’s not the head anymore, reggie said they NOA is seeing the waluigi support, but not Issac’s, definitely think waluigi has a higher chance if the old head of NOA has recognised his support.
they seen Waluigi support for years and still think he's garbage. especially when they made Ridley a ballot influence and not purple cuck plumber
all Isaac needs is a recent release before the next game's planning starts and he already checks off all corners to be a viable fighter.
>This will change next game, mark my words.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
right. Call me when they do add Krystal, Shitlux, Blandana Dweeb.
even a generic/parasol waddle dee has a better chance.
they can cut him if they wanna
at least he got in and was in the last non-lazy generation of Pokemon to happen
it's going to get worse from here. James Turner be damned
>complaining about based Daisy and not the dog that got to be a semi-clone not Tom Nook
When will you stop this? It's gay man, just gay
Keep mewtwo. Cut either lucario or greninja. Not sure which. Maybe lucario.
Take a bath.
I like seeing wrestling themed characters. If they could get another one like Travis maybe, I’d be fine with incineroar being cut
>literal reskin
>shitty semclone
Same thing, only difference is one's an echo and one's not.
1. Dark Samus
2. Daisy
3. Ice Climbers
4. Sheik
5. Dr. Mario
6. Pichu
7. Lucina
8. Young Link
9. Roy
10. chrom
11. Dark Pit
12. Lucas
13. Lucario
14. Toon Link
15. Greninja
16. Palutena
17 Bowser Jr.
18. Ken
19. Corrin
20.Richter
21. Incineroar
22-25. all miis
28. Wario
29. Rosalina and Luma
30. Bowser Jr.
There, I fixed smash
Here's what I think will happen.
1. 64 and Melee staple characters will stay, with exceptions (clones/echoes).
2. Mewtwo/Lucrario/Greninja etc. will find a replacement Pokémon for the current gen (not Sword/Shield)
3. Brawl's/4's/Ult's existing characters will remain with some changes (Ike is Roy's replacement just like in Brawl, Ridley now replaces Dark Samus).
which justifies Daisy as an echo.
Sakurai even half-admitted Isabelle would be an echo if Villager was based on the recent New Leaf design.
but too bad, they didnt bother to revert the former first.
>she's either a jobber, a spinoff swordie, or an old lady, Impa is shit
She’d have more variety than sheik ever has.
>all Isaac needs is a recent release before the next game's planning starts and he already checks off all corners to be a viable fighter.
Lmfao...you really think Camelot care enough to make another golden sun, especially after dark dawn flopped. No, they’ll be working Mario golf for switch soon, and guess who’s in that game?
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
right. Call me when they do add Krystal, Shitlux, Blandana Dweeb.
even a generic/parasol waddle dee has a better chance.
I’ve screencapped it, see you in 5 years.
Why do all of these rosters do nothing but cut clones? They are the easiest characters to make, and won't provide that much extra dev time.
GETTING RID OF:
>Dark Samus, Daisy, Sheik, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Young Link, Dark Pit, Zero Suit Samus, Toon Link
Just alt versions / forms of more iconic characters. Most could just as well be included as costumes.
>Lucina, Roy, Chrom, Ike, Robin, Corrin
Fire Emblem was not accessible enough in the West to merit more than one representative as a series.
>Mewtwo
OP plsnurf
>Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B., Wii Fit Trainer
Gimmicky and lame.
>Falco, Wolf
Star Fox isn't a big enough series to need more than one representative.
>Rosalina & Luma, Greninja, Incineroar, Lucario
Not iconic enough to represent their respective series.
>Palutena
Kid Icarus is too old and obscure to need more than one representative.
>Sonic
His home series is recently deceased.
>Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, Mii Gunner
The character creation system is shit.
THIS LEAVES US WITH:
>Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Yoshi, Kirby, Fox, Pikachu, Luigi, Ness, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff
OG.
>Peach, Bowser, Wario, Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr.
The Mario series is Nintendo's flagship, so I'm being more lenient toward it.
>Ice Climbers, Pit, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Duck Hunt, Ryu, Ken, Simon, Richter, Little Mac
Representatives of ancient classics.
>Zelda, Ganondorf
Too crucial to the Zelda series to exclude.
>Marth, Shulk, Cloud, Snake, Olimar, Villager, Bayonetta, Inkling
Each is the sole representative / sole remaining representative of a series I can't think of a good reason to exclude altogether.
>Meta Knight, King Dedede, Ridley, King K. Rool
Not necessarily all that iconic, but still important because they provide villain counterparts for what are otherwise core constituent series.
>Pokemon Trainer
There wouldn't be enough Pokemon left in the game without him. Plus the gen one starters are iconic, even if their implementation is gimmicky.
>Lucas
Shouldn't be here but I love him and his game of origin too much to say so.
>Isabelle
Not really iconic enough but everyone loves her.
Replace Incineroar with King from Tekken
Never, I like been a cutfagging douche.
Have sex
>And sonic is the only third party
;)
>She’d have more variety than sheik ever has.
and I already described Impa.
she is garbage. now go wank off to your Tecmo fanfiction again or old lady porn.
>Lmfao...you really think Camelot care enough to make another golden sun, especially after dark dawn flopped.
Dark Dawn sold great for a DS disregading the quality.
also Mario Golf is boring, just play Aces.
>I’ve screencapped it, see you in 5 years.
you mean 10+
Nintendo now wants the Switch to live as long as PS2/3/360 did. Especially their idea to just keep updating the Switch hardware like phones do.
but yeah, at least in 10 years 3 of the "groomed" characters will be sidelined or overshadowed by newer characters again.
I had to hide this, because this was proper high levels of cringe.
just cut everyone lol
uwu OwO UwU cummies
>1. Mario
>2. Luigi (Unlockable)
>3. Bowser
>4. Peach
>5. Yoshi
>6. Wario (Unlockable)
>7. Link
>8. Zelda (no Sheik transformation)
>9. Ganondorf (Unlockable)
>10. Pikachu
>11. Mewtwo (Unlockable)
>12. Charizard
>13. Kirby
>14. DDD
>15. Meta Knight (Unlockable)
>16. Samus (no Zero Suit transformation)
>17. Ridley (Unlockable)
>18. DK
>19. Diddy (Unlockable)
>20. Inkling
>21. Fox
>22. Olimar (Unlockable)
>23. Captain Falcon (Unlockable)
>24. Ness (Unlockable)
>25. Marth (Unlockable)
>26. Little Mac
>27. Ice Climbers (Unlockable)
>28. Villager
>29. R.O.B. (Unlockable)
>30. Sonic (Unlockable)
>31. Mega Man
>32. Ryu (Unlockable)
>33. Simon Belmont
>34. Solid Snake (Unlockable)
>35. Banjo-Kazooie (Unlockable)
>36. Pac-Man (Unlockable)
also what newcomers would you have
>also what newcomers would you have
sans undertale from candy crush
Whatever the tl;dr is
>Impa vs Sheik
>Golden sun is dead, it’s never getting a new game, Camelot only care about mario sports these days.
>next smash will probably be released in 5 years to tie in with 25th anniversary, it is important after all.
If your cutting IC, Mr G&W and R.O.B, cut DH too.
Terrible roster
they might do HD/Deluxe re-releases of older Smashes and do a new Nintendo fighting game prior instead of a new Smash.
SSB64 is dying for a remake
I think this is pretty fair and thought out
There has to be one goofy retro rep
Drop Ness if you're going to go the route of cutting other retro characters. He is a relic of the past as well.
>thinking they’ll do RE-makes over a RE-boot
Remaking an older Smash would be pointless when the only casually noticeable difference from installment to installment is that each successive installment includes more content. You'd just be making Ultimate minus 70%.
Well it won’t be the dog, that’s for sure. It’ll probably be someone new.
Read it again...
>keeping Mr G&W and R.O.B, the next game won’t have hardware reps,
that’s funny, I didn’t know ness was a hardware rep.
You could probably get away with a lot of this, but cutting Bowser, Pikachu, and ganon is where it gets too far out there.
Of course he is.
>your yfw when ness is an anagram for snes
I actually consider Corrin to be the worst inclusion ever.
Daisy
Dr. Mario
Falco
Lucina
Young Link
Roy
Chrom
Lucario
Wii Fit Trainer
Rosalina & Luma
Shulk
Bowser Jr.
Corrin
Bayonetta
Isabelle
Incineroar
Mii Brawler
Mii Swordfighter
Mii Gunner
Joker
I already knew that and it doesn’t make no difference
Dark Samus
Daisy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Falco
Lucina
Young Link
Roy
Chrom
Dark Pit
Zero Suit Samus
Lucario
Toon Link
Greninja
Palutena
Ken
Corrin
Bayonetta
Isabelle
Incineroar
Yes it does, Ness is a representative of the SNES because Ness is an anagram for SNES, Ness is the SNES personified, that's why he's a chosen wielder of PSI, I know the reason he can wield PSI is because he's probably related to Ninten who is a descendant of George and Marie who were Giygas's adoptive parents, but that doesn't explain why Ness specifically is the executor of the prophecy and has the privileged ability to learn PSI Rockin, obviously that's because Ness is the SNES.
It was just a pointless Easter egg...right?
>Melee HD over something that's definitely going to sell worse than the WiiU version of Smash 4
yes they would
reminder Nintendo wanted to resort to ports in the past as well
Remove row 9 and replace Simon with Pac-Man and I’m satisfied.
>Remove the iconic nintendo Ips and put in an atari rep
no it wouldn't
plus Ultimate and WiiU has inferior SP content to 64 and Melee, so why insist the next one is worth it+plus a chopped down roster?
Easy
Also I probably wouldn't bring back any of the DLC fighters. I've kept the roster mostly to characters that actually mean something to the game industry.
gay phoneposter
Wasn’t that only of Sakurai didn’t make smash for Wii, that melee would be ported. But Sakurai made brawl and I haven’t heard Nintendo wanting to resort to smash ports since.
wait, are we bringing back the Melee HD talk?
if they add baloon knockback, 8 more newcomers, and 4 more existing ones like Dedede and Wario plus new modes, its easily the best Smash illiteration
>but they will use the PAL version!
no they wouldn't.
plus they got pros to discuss what to improve and keep in Ultimate during the demo days
Stfu up they’re aren’t as iconic as faggots make them to be.
Melee HD sounds boring as shit. There is no good reason to remake an old smash game over just making a new one.
Looks ok desu
I could trim more, and some are kind of interchangeably removable(Lucina/Crom), but this works well enough.
Wake me when they make a smash with 3d gameplay
Smash reboot is smash power stone... would play the hell out of this.
>Ashley
Yooo-
>Bottom right
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
a reboot is even more boring
at least you get good single player and a good roster, not the opposites with retards defending it like SwSh
> dr mario
> pichu
> young link
> toon link
> lucina
> chrom
> corrin
> wii fit trainer
> incineroar
> bowser jr
> palutena
> richter
> joker
> dark pit
> daisy
> dark samus
> isabelle
> mii swordfighter
> mii brawler
> mii gunner
I like some of these but I decided to cut the least from the roster, I would get rid of the clones and miis first. Then, I went with the characters I thought would have the least amount of outrage if they were removed. I don't feel petty enough to be one of the faggots who goes straight to "all fire emblem characters."
Sm4sh was good though
1) Robin
2) Corrin
3) Lucina
4) Chrom
5) Pichu
6) Lucario
7) Incineroar
8) Greninja
9) Piranha plant
10) Daisy
11) Dr Mario
12) Rosalina & Luma
13) Dark Pit
14) Palutena
15) Link
16) Mii brawler
17) Mii swordfighter
18) Mii gunner
19) Richter
20) Duck hunt
Would also change the moveset of dark samus and Ganondorf
at least you get good single player
Excuse me? What isnbgle player, adventure mode? That ten minute slog of nonsense that to collect trophies? Smash is a fighting game and a party game, look for singleplayer in literally any other game.
t. DLCfag
Smash 4 was good, even without the dlc.
you have a more refined version of Adventure Mode, more BtT and Events, and much more in a potiental deluxe/HD release of Melee.
meanwhile Sakurai is leaving behind Smash Run and not expand on that because he wants every Smash to have "their own thing".
instead you will keep on getting garbage single player like Spirits and, its predecesor, Mario Party along with butchered version of Race to the Finish and Break the Targets or Angry Birds
and the garbage online will stay.
I think a Melee HD would be more preferable than a mulitated follow up of Ultimate and 4.
not a single thing beyond customs and smash run was good in Smash 4
especially the removal of DACUS
joker should be removed too, and remove all super armor from the game.
Marth
Chrom
Corrin
Dark Pit
Young Link
Incineroar
Ness (or Lucas)
Wii Fit Trainer
Jigglypuff
Ken
Richter
Mii Fighters
Doctor Mario
Bayonetta
Daisy
Dark Samus
Pichu (or Pikachu)
Falco (or Wolf)
If factoring the DLC that aren't shown on the OP image, I'd cut Joker in favor of keeping one of the Mii Fighters, preferably not Swordsman.
Someone make a legit argument for Jigglypuff, Roy and Rosalina.
>inb4 Puff is part of the original 12
doesn't mean shit, Brawl almost cut her
STOP CUTTING KEN YOU FUCKS
It's Ryu or Ken and Ryu is the main character of SF. Why keep any echoes when you have to cut 20 characters?
Real talk, why the fuck isn't Bandana Dee playable? He's a relevant character from an active franchise.
Actual irrelevant characters like ROB who has only a handful of games mind you is a fighter, but this pure cinnamon roll who has dozens of games, many of which are globally beloved doesn't get to be playable?
Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this
Because sakurai hates Kirby shit he didn’t make
Jigglypuff is fun to play against
Roy is the best Koopaling after Ludwig
You got me on Rosalina, I can take or leave her
>Jigglypuff
I want Jigglypuff cut, personally.
>Roy
I just like Roy a lot more than Marth and always did. I like Lucina more than Marth. I like Ike and Robin more than Marth. I'm tired of Marth and never liked him.
>Rosalina
She's one of the most unique characters on the roster in terms of design and playstyle, she's a prominent character featured in two very popular main series Mario titles, and she's a hell of a lot more interesting than Peach or Daisy will ever be.
Soul
Soulless
For Fun, For Glory
Kinda off topic but here's my proposal for the FE lineup in the next Smash:
>Marth
>Lucina
>Ike
>Black Knight
>Robin
>Corrin
Roy & Chrom get cut and Lucina inherits her faughters moveset.
Thoughts?
He doesn’t like the matchup
>keeping Corrin
>online but with forced setttings
zzzz
why not straightforward online, Sakurai? jesus christ
Chad
Virgin
We got shafted so hard it hurts
Thanks for the copypasta
>Black Knight
tick-tock grandpa
what would really be the difference between the 3 adult links?
its not like they have drastically different kits
Sm4sh wasn't that bad, I'll leave the whole roster in.
Your daily dose of Cutfags are mentally ill. is ready btw. Pick it up on your way out.
Real talk, why the fuck aren’t most wanted first party characters playable?
When actual irrelevant characters like Ice climbers, Mr game and watch, ROB, duck hunt and a bunch of third party, which may I remind you weren’t requested at all as much as most wanted first party, are fucking playable, everyday I pray that they are cut next game.
Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this
yeah zss is a much better metroid rep than ridley and we definitely need two links and two zeldas, only the essentials
Because puff and Rosalina both have unique movesets. Anyone that wants to cut a character with a unique moveset while keeping clones should have their opinion discarded.
>Ken turns into a skin
Why do stinkies never know shit about Street Fighter?
>wants sheik and Zelda together again
Them being separated is the best thing to happen to them
I would cut
>Kirby
>Fox
>DK
>Samus
>Jigleypuff
>Falco
>Mewtwo
>Game and Watch
>ROB
>ALL 3rd parties
>Rosalina
>Lucina
>little Mac
>Ridley
>Dark Samus
>Incineroar
you first
>make the koopalings an echo
Just give Ludwig an original moveset and make them all echoes of him.
Not that user but
>Junior loses the clown car and gets paintbrush moveset
>Koopalings keep the clown car and get Koopa Kid as the default skin
If we were to get a Melee HD with new characters, here's my roster
I'm gonna assume Echos don't count, here.
>Ice Climbers
>Dr. Mario
>Lucina
>Young Link
>Chrom
>Snake
>Sonic
>either Lucario or Greninja, take your pick
>Toon Link
>Bowser Jr.
>Duck Hunt
>Isabelle
>Miis
>Sheik
>Mega Man
>Cloud
>Bayonetta
>Zero Suit Samus
>Falco
>Wolf
any list that cuts Mario is a retarded list
>Lyn
>Shadow
you were so close
Nah you got it wrong.
1) Junior keeps the clown car and gets an overhaul to make it actually fun.
2) Ludwig gets a moveset based on all the Koopaling boss fight attacks and gimmicks, the other Koopalings are echoes of him.
3) Add Adeleine as a summoner/paint brush fighter.
Replace Shadow with Tails. Shadow is just a stupid meme pick.
This probably would have been it and before anyone asks...yes we would have had both sonic and shadow due to how big of a thing SA2 was
We'd be going back to 2001 for this roster, VIllager would also have horns on his costumes. Shadow would be the one to be picked since for one he's a clone and two, SA2 was huge
Could you make it any more obvious that you're samefagging your own post? Learn to Yea Forums kid.
Lucina
Chrom
Roy
Ike
Robin
Corrin
Young Link
Toon Link
Mewtwo
Pichu
Lucario
Greninja
Incineroar
Mii Brawler
Mii Swordsman
Mii Gunner
Cloud
Isabelle
Dark Pit
Wii Fit Trainer
Wii Fit was mostly for filler, but everything else must go. I don't give a shit about popularity.
>SA2 was huge
Not really. Tails was a much bigger character at the time and he still is.
they would have gome with Knuckles if that was the case
they even joked about people requesting Sonic and Knuckles on the Melee FAQ page as well.
but Tails would be the main clone option regardless, this isn't Echo Fighters
>Learn to Yea Forums kid
Indeed, cuckchan post quality has diminished greatly after the election and the reddiscord invasion.
Cut:
Dark Samus
Jigglypuff
Daisy
Sheik
Dr.Mario
Pichu
Lucina
Young Link
Roy
Chrom
Dark Pit
Zero Suit Samus
Lucas
Lucario
Wolf
Rosalina
Greninja
Palutena
Robin
Bowser Jr.
CORRIN
Richter
All Miis
and before anyone thinks im bullshitting, here.
web.archive.org
Easiest 20 of my life. Honestly could've done 30 before having to make tough calls.
>cuckchan
yikes, a cripplenigger poster.
Why would you cut young link and keep toon link?
this is easy all the clones plus ice climbers
Idk what’s wrong with these people you would think Corrin raped their mothers or something.
It's easier to play as a floaty character rather than a fast character.
>meme pick
>when the only Sonic character surpassing him in popularity is Sonic himself
Maybe in 2004. Knuckles is more popular now.
proof?
>muh popularity
Yeah, meme pick.
DUDE
K. ROOL = MEME PICK
>muh popularity was the crux of roolfag's argument
Nope.
I'd probably keep dr mario and get rid of joker but yeah pretty based
What was it then? He was a popular pick, Is he a meme then?
26 if were excluding echos
>1 Pichu
>2 Jigglypuff
>3 Greninja
Boring Pokemon.
>4 Lucario
Furry piece of shit that took Mewtwo's rightful spot back in Brawl. Deserves punishment.
>5 Incineroar
Furry garbage.
>6 Dark Pit
Terrible choice, should've never been in the game.
>7 Olimar
Awful moveset.
>8 Young Link
>9 Toon Link
One Link is enough.
>10 Mii Fighters
Add a proper character creator instead of this.
>11 Pac-Man
Relegated to Assist Trophy. They clearly struggled to make a good moveset for him.
>12 Shulk
Xenoblade sucks ass.
>13 Bowser Jr.
A shame to remove him, but just doesn't deserve the spot.
>14 Duck Hunt Duo
Meme character, Little Mac and Ice Climbers are a better retro choice.
>15 Ken
Ryu is enough.
>16 Piranha Plant
Meme character.
>17 Joker
Not interesting enough to remain.
>18 Hero
Who cares about Dragon Quest?
>19 Chrom
Really didn't deserve the slot.
>20 Daisy
She's to Peach what Waluigi is to Luigi.
Keep Duck Hunt and maybe Isabelle
He was wanted because he is a significant, important, unique, and fun character from the Donkey Kong series that wasn't getting the love and recognition he deserved.
You underestimate how popular 'ow the edge' character actually are.
It's almost like Knuckles is a "Meme character"
Also any sources of official polls?
Remove
>Young Link
>Toon Link (if he gets a unique moveset then he’s fine)
>Richter
>Corrin
>Chrom
>Dark Samus (back to an alt)
>Daisy
>Dr. Mario (alt)
>Pichu
>Lucario
Add
>Isaac
>Geno
>Rayman
>Steve?
>Bomberman
>Doomguy
That’s my perfect roster
Polls are irrelevant and unreliable. Google trends is constantly up-to-date and considers the largest amount of people. It's the best tool we have for measuring internet popularity.
Just concede Shadowfag. The main 4 (Sonic, Tails, Eggman, Knuckles) are more popular and better characters than your emo Mexican hedgehog.
>Internet popularity
Well if we go off those google trends which are "constantly up-to-date and considers the largest amount of people." Shadow is on average more popular than Tails.
>Eggman literally calls Shadow "The second most popular character in the entire franchise"
>Gets a twitter takeover before either Tails or Knuckles
>Gets to be playable and a badass while Tails and Knuckles are reduced to standing on the sidelines.
BECAUSE IT WAS A JOKE THAT SHADOW IS POPULAR
Sonic should be replaced with Classic Sonic.
All this are cut
Newcomers include: Ganon, Skull Kid, King Boo, Spring Man and Isaac
>Eggman literally calls Shadow "The second most popular character in the entire franchise"
Well, he's not.
>Gets a twitter takeover before either Tails or Knuckles
His voice actor is more involved than theirs.
>Gets to be playable and a badass while Tails and Knuckles are reduced to standing on the sidelines
Tails and Knuckles are both playable in the most popular and well-recieved Sonic game since Sonic & Knuckles. Sonic Mania. Shadow isn't even in it.
reminder popular choices get mii costumes and shadow wasnt even part of the last wave with SEGA, LMFAO
>Sonic costumes segement comes
>*Studiopolis starts playing*
>it's another cutfag episode
Isaacfags really are nothing but cancer, are they?
>Guts smash as a fighting game with "one rep per franchise" bullshit
>Still keeps 3 (three) Miis
Surprised you had the braincells required to make this post
Isaacfags don't exist in this Smash cycle anymore. They got BTFO'd months ago.
Pretty easy when you get rid of clones and semi-clones. Mewtwo only getting cut do to a lot of Gen 1 rep already and they'll never fix his hurtboxes correctly.
>another fucking smash thread
Kill yourself
>Amount of Classic songs in Smash: 7 (1 from Mania)
>Amount of Modern songs in Smash: 13 (2 from Forces)
>Spirits use Modern designs and artwork
>No Spirits from Mania or other Classic exclusive games
Sakurai is a Modernchad
Sakurai is a Heroesfag
rate
>blonde white male bad
>malnorished plumber good
#Justice4Waluigi
These are the new forms of Steveposting...be prepared for it to get even worse, and deal with it.
Anyone but Dark Pit. His thighs are pretty
Actually cut all of them except for Link and make a new Zelda game where he has to find out what happened to all the Nintendo characters and then never make a Smash game again because seriously fuck Nintendo making the same game over and over. Do something new
>using songs as evidences
yeah, that stop Cloud from getting in first over Hero. right?
Nintendo makes some of the most original games on the market you fucking tool. There's a reason Nintendo+PC has been the best choice for over a decade.
Here i’ve Rated it by making my own version, the ones I’ve blacked out are the ones i’d cut.
AHH HOW CAN GOLF 2 BE A SEQUEL TO GOLF 1? WHERE IS THE BOWLING? WHERE IS THE SHOOTING? WHERE ARE THE UBISOFT TOWERS AND CRAFTING MECHANICS!?
They clearly hated making Smash again and wanted to shelve it except for their reeeeing fanbase are so desperate for the same shit that they just made it to placate investors.
You wouldn't be seething if you didn't know it was true. Nintendo would rather be making daring new titles but their fucking mongos need their new partykart brawl
Why did you get rid of all the new characters
consider the following
i hate how cutfags are so confident in their beliefs like it's a religion, even if they have nothing to back up their claim other than their autistic salesfagging, relevancyfagging, franchisefagging, zoomer sounding fanfics
nothing personal I just fund these expendable
all 3 miis
Lucas
Ice Climbers
Dark Pit
Dr Mario
Young Link
Toon Link
Snake(love the character but he is really guest material doesn't seem like a necessary main stay)
Ryu(same reason as above) and Ken
Cloud(you get the idea)
all FE character sans Marth and just barely Ike(I think this is like 5 fucking hell)
All Pokemons sans Pikachu, Pkmn Trainer, Mewtwo and barely Jiggs since shes prqctically a smash staple but I wouldn't care it cut tbqh(I think this is 4)
wow this was easier than I thought, with DLC easily Joker and Plant too
I'm not really proud with all my decisions entirely. I might switch Greninja with Jigglypuff or Possibly remove Bowser Jr or Rosalina. However, I think these make the most sense. Any echo was also removed because who cares about them really anyway.
shit bait
Good overall. You accidentally crossed out Isabelle instead of Incineroar though.
Cause i’m a rebootfag, and in terms of reboot we certainly won’t have that fucking many third party, that should be obvious.
Actually I would remove Sheik too. She's only been in one game and a didn't even play a major role.
I hope you're okay with only having 3 newcomers in the next game just for the sake of keeping bangers like Palutena.
What's the point of a reboot if it just uses the same roster except with less characters?
>Incineroar
>Mii brawler
>Mii gunner
>Mii swordsman
>Dark pit
>Palutena
>Jigglypuff
>R.O.B.
>Lucina
>Chrom
>Corrin
>Dr. Mario
>Rosalina
>Bowser Jr.
>Young Link
>Shiek
>Ice Climbers
>Pichu
>Lucario
>Daisy
This seems pretty dumb though
well obviously if you're gonna port all the data into the next game as a deluxe port, they could focus on a lot of new characters stages, and modes instead of also focusing on the veterens. it's not that hard to transfer existing data
retards still think single player content will be good beyond Brawl
It technically won’t, I don’t even expect everyone I haven’t crossed out to return/join as a newcomer I would personally want
>30 veterans
>10 newcomers
40 sounds perfect for a reboot.
>Make all echo fighters into alt costumes
>Make Dr. Mario into Mario alt
>Cut all Pokemon besides Pikachu, Jiggs, and Trainer
>Cut all Fire Emblem characters except Marth and Robin
>Cut Icies, Shiek
>Cut Y. Link, Toon Link, retool Link to be representative of Zelda as a whole
>Cut Diddy, Lucas, R.O.B.
>Cut Wii Fit, Rosa, Bowser Jr.
>Cut Isabelle
If it was that easy Ultimate would have much more new content and cut less than it did.
Portfag. Nobody honestly gives a shit about your opinion, a smash port won’t ever happen, it seems like Sakurai is inevitable to work on another game with hard cuts built from the ground up.
anyone else want the cracker launcher back? that was seriously a fun item
would be so good with 8-player sudden death were you in Palutena temple
Which will sell worse than 64, Melee, and the 3DS version
guess which game is under all that?
smash ultimate had a lot of content, it only missed targets, homerun contest, and stage builder, which will all be added later. where are you getting this delusion that ultimate is baron or something?
>jiggs
>not mewtwo
OG12 fag get out
>cutting shitty characters that no one ever wanted or played bad
>cutting content that was in all previous games okay
Stfu it’s smash it will sell and if you don’t like it, then stick to ultimate and be a minority.
>smash ultimate had a lot of content,
By far the least amount of newcomers and stages in the entire series.
>, it only missed targets, homerun contest, and stage builder,
And trophies, smash run, master and crazy orders, etc.
Everything besides the characters and stages for Ultimate was obviously rushed. It's fine to do it one time but It'd get boring eventually.
I'd love to live in a reality where we don't have to sacrifice characters, but judging by literally every other series with different selectable characters, it's not feasible.
>b-but its Smash
and yet the WiiU version ended up being the worse selling title
you are literally no better than the niggers defending that trash heap Game Freak is shitting out.
>People talking about a “reboot”
>Rebooting the game means reducing the roster for “other features”
>But even in reboot threads everybody only talks about the roster and not those features because everyone only cares about the roster
But sure it’s totally gonna happen guys.
>And trophies, smash run, master and crazy orders, etc.
other than Smash Run, which would be better than WoL, the rest of what you said is unneeded.
That was only cause the Wii U did shit, as long as the next Nintendo console sells well, a smash game with hate cuts on it will.
Lucina
Young Link
Chrom
Pittoo
Lucario
Wii Fit
Villager
Greninja
Bowser Jr
Duck Hunt
Ken
Bayonetta
Richter
Isabelle
Incineroar
Pichu
All Miis
>By far the least amount of newcomers and stages in the entire series.
and snake, and pokemon trainer, and young link, and pichu, and wolf, and and ice climbers. don't give me that "WELL THEY'RE VETERANS THEY DON'T COUNT" they still had to have new parameters and brand new models added to most of them because they didn't have data from wii u, hell they made new models for link, zelda, the miis and ike, and new animations for a shit load of characters. now they don't have to deal with that anymore because everyone is back and finished, now they can add like 10 brand new characters at the very least if they made a port because all the veterans are complete and dont need anymore work besides balance adjustments.
>And trophies, smash run, master and crazy orders, etc.
spirits are trophies, we have an adventure mode, barely anyone used master and crazy orders, which are basically what spirits are anyway as well as event matches.
>I'd love to live in a reality where we don't have to sacrifice characters, but judging by literally every other series with different selectable characters, it's not feasible.
that's the beauty of an enhanced port, my dude
Hard*
Diddy, ROB and koopa kids aside this is good
You say all this about a port, but it won’t happen
You say all this about a reboot, but it won't happen.
because rebootniggers dont want to admit "Mulitatimate" would:
-still have garbage single player
-butchered stadium/other SP modes like Brawl's Target Smash and Ultimate's All-Stars
-still have crap online
-would sell less than between WiiU (worse selling) to Melee (3rd best selling) sales
-some pathetic attempt to salvage Spirits and Trophies without it taking up development time
-won't bring back Adventure Mode proper or succeed Smash Run
-goes back to Tr4sh-tier gameplay
-still keep the scummy DLC practices
on top of a roster sliced from 3/4 of Ultimate's roster
my roster would be
Mario
DK
Kirby
Falco
Falcon
Squirtle
DDD
and that's it
>That was only cause the Wii U did shit,
and Tr4sh did shit. fucking Splatoon almost outsold it and every other Mario spinoff did too
so what's your point?
as long as the next Nintendo console sells well, a smash game with hate cuts on it will.
Because a game with hard cut has already been confirmed inevitable, a crapass port hasn’t, and won’t ever be, keep seething portfag.
Multimate?
Mulitatimate?
>Falco over fox...
>squirtle over pikachu
gotta source to back that up?
You obviously don’t get my point.
Mulitate+Ultimate=you get the joke
your ignorance is not me not getting your point
amd shut up, i know i didn't erase your garbage on my post either
Dark Samus, Ness, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, Daisy, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Falco, Young Link, Chrom, Dark Pit, ZSS, Lucas, Rosalina, Greninja, Palutena, Bowser Jr, Ridley, all 3 Miis.
21 Cuts
Squirtle is the only pokemon of the 900+ the matters
I had to cut Jigglypuff since this is the base game roster, not the roster + DLC; if it did include the DLC, Hero would be cut instead of Jigglypuff.
Smash 4 wasn't bad so I'll keep everyone, thanks.
>Getting all of the characters together for that one game was a “miracle,” he said, and there’s no guarantee there will be another like it, because “Smash” requires the cooperation of so many different parties.
This proves everyone is here won’t happen again. So that’s a port wiped off the fucking table.
This explains that ultimate was made using existing assets, he won’t use them again because he’ll have cooked up something new around the time the next smash game comes and to test it, he’ll use a small roster about somewhere between 1/4 and a 1/2 if ultimates. Hard cuts are inevitable, stfu and enjoy ultimate whilst it’s here, cause it will not, AND WON’T EVER, be ported!
Fuck off
you know what he also said? ridley will never be in smash. same with villager and pac man and miis, the man always changes his mind, and that claim he made about no guarantee is so vague it could either mean port or reboot 50/50.
>smash ultimate made using existing assets
who's to say they wont do it again, they've been doing it since brawl, they can do it again to save the work of redoing everybody again, you're on thin ice.
Here
ridley will never be in smash. same with villager and pac man and miis
They are all fucking characters though, the point he’s making there is about his franchise, not some character who was once a never ever.
>that claim he made about no guarantee is so vague it could either mean port or reboot 50/50.
I think you mean
>port 20%
>reboot 40%
>game with general cuts 60%
In reality both a port and a reboot are unlikey, but a reboot has a little more going for it. It’ll probably be a game with general cuts, and he’ll cut the wrong characters causing a riot, desu, people will be pissed of no matter what happens, because even a port isn’t a perfect idea and people will rage about it (myself included).
>who's to say they wont do it again, they've been doing it since brawl
Yeah a fucking decade, it’s getting old already and if the next game uses it, I won’t be picking it up.
>they can do it again to save the work of redoing everybody again
But they don’t want to work on everybody again, it was enough hard work the first time.
>you're on thin ice.
Idgaf
Trash
Wasn’t thinking straight here I meant to say
I think you mean
>port 20%
>reboot 35%
>game with general cuts 45%
Presuming that we count echoes for the purposes of this.
>Mario:
Dr. Mario, Daisy, Pirahna Plant
>The Legend of Zelda:
Toon Link, Young Link
>Pokemon:
Pichu
>Fire Emblem
Chrom, Roy, Corrin
>Other Nintendo:
Isabelle, Villager, Lucas, Dark Samus, Dark Pit, Ice Climbers, Little Mac, Mii Gunner, Mii Swordfighter
>Third-Parties:
Richter, Cloud (prevent SE asshattery)
Keep the pot cooking, pasta man.
they're good friends
Looks like this thread is dying
only shittaste here
>all these faggots cutting mr chad and watch
get fucked
fpbp
Whatever, he should be cut at this point, nobody but muh uniquefags will miss him.
Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this
based retard coming through
some of you smashers are alright, don't come to flat zone tomorrow if you're in Ultimate.
happening arena will be posted tomorrow morning.
so long, space yokois
I missed wolf, make him a fox skin
gaming history, full of personality, enough said
Shitposter
Fuck off, he’s not that special to gaming history, and is the biggest literal who in smash these days, his personality is seen through other characters. Gives him every right to be cut.
If he returns it is unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this!
why did you say this? this adds nothing to the conversation, one word is like literal brainlet levels.
It’s shitposting, there is no arena happening, I’ve seen this message before.
I'd cut faaaar more than 20.
Like this many...?
>ignore protoman
not a chance nigger
>or the next smash game is just as bad as sm4sh
You mean the second best after Ultimate?
nice detective work there, einstein
Puff
Dark Samus
Roy
Lucina
Chrom
Dark Pit
Either Young or Toon Link. Would prefer if we cut Toon but Young makes more sense
Richter
Isabelle
Two of the Miis
Incineroar
Ken
Doctor Mario
Pichu
Daisy
Bayonetta
Wolf
Dragon Quest Hero
As much as I love him, Joker
Turn every Echo + Dr. Mario, Lucas and Isabelle into alt skins (that's 10 characters)
Cut Pichu
Cut Young Link
Cut Greninja
Cut Lucario
Cut Ike
Cut Corrin
Cut Cloud and Joker for barely being Nintendo-relevant
Cut Falco
Cut Zero Suit Samus
Dark Samus
Daisy
Sheik
Dr Mario
Pichu
Lucina
Young Link
Roy
Chrom
Dark Pit
Zero Suit Samus
Lucas
Lucario
Wii Fit Trainer
Geninja
Corrin
Richter
Incineroar
Snake
Bayonetta
Yeah you are
>yikes
>cripplenigger
My job fucking sucks
>he got wobbled in melee
fuck off before i come to your house and zero to death you too
Here.
I cut more than 20, but that would leave room for more newcomers I guess?
the only right answer
Easy
Corrin
Robin
Lucina
Roy
Chrom
Ike
Dark Pit
Palutena
Bowser Jr
Rosalina and Luma
Mii Brawler
Mii Swordsman
Mii Gunner
Isabelle
Greninja
Lucario
Daisy
Toon Link
Zelda
Pichu
Dark Samus
Lucas
Richter
Changed my mind, here's what I'd actually cut it down to.
>bird + bear
Literally who?
/s ovbs
I'm popping in just to high five anyone that didn't cut pokemon trainer
Ice Climbers
Lucas
Chrom
Roy
Dark Pit
ROB
Toon Link
Bowser Jr
Combine Sheik and Zelda back together
Corrin
Richter
Dark Samus
Lucina
Falco
Zero Suit Samus
Daisy
Pichu
Little Mac
Ken
Dr Mario
with how they fixed switching with pokemon trainer, combining shiek and zelda would be pretty cool possibly
I think my list is optimal for leaving the most variety in the game as far as moves and general feel to characters and such. I didn't play favorites in terms of what i actually like or don't like
None, how about that?
Dark Samus
Ness
Daisy
Pichu
Ice Climbers
Young Link
Toon Link
Sonic
Bowser Jr
Villager
Simon
Dark Pit
Megaman
Snake
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Greninja
Pac Man
Ken
Olimar
Greninja will always stay in, he's the most popular pokemon in japan, even more than pikachu. It's probably a safe bet Villager and Olimar will too as they are big Nintendo IPs and them being in smash is basically free advertisement for their games
How about that? The next smash will be as bad as smash 4, you must have thought it was good if your cutting nobody.
>Even more than pikachu
Since when did you people get so awful at posting blatant lies
>cut
all the characters i dont like
>keep
all the characters that i do like
>It's easy for most people to cut a full 20 characters from the Smash Ultimate roster
>Most people agree on who the 20 should be, for the most part only differing on one or two characters
And people say there shouldn't be cuts.
Thats just nostalgia retard, roy and marth were both added to shill fe in melee
If the cuts are Unnecessary, they are unnecessary. This whole cutfag discussion is peak contrarianism
get a better one then
Half of the new additions were fucking clones you asswipe
All characters who didn't have a game on the NES, snes, N64, Gameboy and GBA are cut
>No cloud, Sonic, Bayonetta, purse owners, Rosalina, inceneroar, toon link, Greninja, Corrin, Chrom, banjo
Alts/clones are folded into one another becoming skins or shadows. There is one link. There is one Mario. Daisy is in but she's just a skin for peach. Falco is just a skin for fox. Etc.
>melee roster was soul
>Ganon got fucked by OoT shilling
>Ganondorf was the last Zelda character to add and he's a clone instead
>a bunch of last minute clones suddenly
>6 months to develop the fucking game which means time constraints are on the clock
>some of the most awesome additions sucked ass casually and competitivety even
>Dedede had to wait one more game to be in
>Sonic and Snake got fucked by time constraints
>Banjo got fucked by Microjew
>Ridley and Wolf teased for the wrong reasons
>Daisy was a costume
the post reeks under age
but that's just cutfags in general
have you played anything but Smash?
Marth was supposed to be in 64 at first with the villains
Excitebiker and Balloon Fighter were also apparenlty planned
god they would be cool
>Remove new shit
>Under age
If anything I'm a salty boomer who is especially mad the fire emblem entries are newfaggotry from the worst game in the series except for Roy
>seething grandpa
that explains it
now smell Corrin's musky panties you old fuck
Joker
Incineroar
Isabelle
Richter
Corrin
Cloud
Ken
Wolf
Toon Link
Snake
Dark Pit
Chrom
Roy
Lucina
Pichu
Doctor Mario
Daisy
Jigglypuff
Dark Samus
(If they don't make a moveset the takes inspiration from MM) Young Link
who gives a shit? people buy smash for characters. why do you think ultimate is selling so well?
I forgot plant so add him too
they were not
they were part of the elimination process of which NES character they could add into Melee
Ice Climbers ended up the best choice but Clu-Clu, Excitebike, Urban Champion, and Balloon Fighter ended up being dismissed for donning problems
the 10 I would add to replace the 20 are
>Bill Rizer(I mean cmon Contra is in both NES and SNES classic, severely underrated)
>Excitebiker
>Bomberman
>Paper Mario
>Andy
>Marshall
>Travis Touchdown
>Springman
>Wonder Red
>Jack Frost
personally, a "person on a bike" fighter should be reserved for her
no, thats retarded
>/s ovbs
go back
>characters who didnt have a game on N64
>Banjo
nigger
Mach Rider is shit
no, it's pretty awesome, give me a reason why it's bad
Sakurai NEEDS to look back on Excitebike
he could be a retro rep like Pit and ICs or surprise rep like ROB and DHD
plus he figure the bike shit already with Wario
its not fucking fair
not a star only known for a snazzy melee trophy lets be honest
might as well add Stanley from Donkey kong 3 for the same reasons
stanley sounds pretty cool too.