Evo final numbers

SHOUBU

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a year on year increase in entrants?

lmao of course

You can thank Aris and his legion of drones

eternal third place after spending years of their lives shitting on other games.

>SFV
>Tekken 7
>Samsho
>SC6
Look at those EVO core values in practice.

Kicking out melee.

Why bother playing an obsolete game with obsolete community.

Why would they Seethe? Tekken fags should be proud, Street Fighter is -the- brand name for fighting games so seeing Tekken 7 coming that close to topping it is honestly amazing

Personally I'm really happy SamSho did so well but also dissapointed Soul Calibur did so shit. Not surprising though as theres really nothing new to it and what mechanics that are new really arent fun to use

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Havent they been at odds for ages? Back in PSX 1 era, Tekken 3 became the mainstream favorite and had virtually no real competition from Street Fighter. My dumbass little sisters played Tekken 3 a lot and they hate video games for the most part.

Even SF at its weakest is stronger than Tekken at its prime.

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Literally falseflaggers and fuckers who don't play. Not sure why anyone would suck off SFV with the decisions they made.

I just wasn't expecting it. I still have fun with it though

they seethe hard because they thought they were kings of the genre.
tekken players are massive assholes they shit on other games nonstop. when it was ahead of SFV in evo signups they claimed its because their game is so much better.
guess their game is worse after all.

tekken fanboys act like smelee players.

UNIST replacing Melee. UNIST is very fucking good, I cannot stress it enough. The only criticism I can give it is that if you don’t like anime you probably won’t find the art style appealing. But as a game it’s so underrated it hurts.
What went wrong? Samurai Showdown did! Because SamSho is a slow boring game that Melee deserves to be in over. If you’re gonna take Melee out at least put in a game that’s proven worthy like Mahvel 3. Not a game that isn’t fucking out yet. Better yet, take out Cross Tag, because that game sucks.

shitting on other games isn't a tekken player exclusive thing

its their speciality.
if you spend any amount of time in fighting game circles you will notice it fast.
its tekken faggots vs the world.

And good morning to you, Bloody Roarfag.

I NEVER LOSE MY WAY
AND GIVE IN TO WEAKNESS
KEEP ON RUNNING WITH THE SAMURAI SOUL

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this guy is giving it for the run

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retard

Maybe if you look at it with your confirmation bias

yeah you're right. your average aris dickrider doesnt exist.
they're all just really fucking quiet now because they got their ass whooped.

Needs more KoF

Seethe harder Breadcuck, our game still has more entrants than yours

How many fucking apples you got stashed in your pants you crazy bastard?

I didn't know Aris fans represented all Tekken players

they make up the majority.

>smash isn't a fighting game
>has the most entrants at the largest fighting game tournament

okay

and when did Aris fans shit on all fighting games? They just shit on Capcom.

Kids and stinky manchildren love their Nintendo games.

LMAO
ask other 3D fighter players how tekken niggers act every day.
thanks for admitting that your fanbase is filled with hateful faggots though

>my childhood soul is revived
Based and redpilled

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>Tekkenfags
>seething
????

I see other 3D fighting game players shit on Tekken more then Tekken player shit on them.

youtube.com/watch?v=srcyBOOchi4

>SOUL
Tekken 7
Samurai Shodown
Soul Calibur VI
>SOULLESS
The rest

The only thing really baffling about this is how many entrants Samurai Showdown has. Almost as much as Tekken.

tekken and soul calibur are both soulless cashgrabs really.
they offer so much less than previous entries.

>Tekken 7 and SC VI
>The games with the less content ever created in the franchise and meter shit
>Soul
Owo

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It's a new simple game with a very high kusoge index and no established playerbase unlike something like KOF. A lot of people probably just entered for lols.

You must be new, SamSho was the only game that could beat SF2 and MK back in the day. It had much more nostalgiafags that you zoomers could ever believe

So how many times EVO stream is going to get cut next time because of boobies on the screen? Darli even chugs a barrel full of rum, with this day and age I wouldnt be surprised if EVO organizers would try to censor that too under the pretense of "promoting alcoholism."

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The vast majority out of 1719 people entering aren't old enough to have any realistic nostalgia for Samurai Shodown and entrant numbers for some 1994 tournament aren't even in the same ballpark

Jive
>hemorrhaging players like crazy
Tekken
>won't stop growing
>literally less than 50 players from jive
>seething
Seriously?

Yeah, if you wildly assume that almost all the entrants are below 30, suuuuuure user
I'm 29 and even I know about SamSho back then when it was released, plus V Special is actually quite popular albeit very niche

Did Wiz messed up the numbers between UNIST and DBFZ?

>America elects a tv star as president
>Americans have a Mario Party game with most participants at a FG event
Are they this stupid irl? I didn’t think so at first?

Samsho is the thinking man's fighting game.

Every action has a consequence. Every move is a commitment.

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Rent free

How in the actual fuck did SamSho pulled more entrances than fucking MK11!?

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>muh boner culture

Seething FGCuck
Smash is a fighting game whether you like it or not

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>Jive
Go back to /fgg/, fag

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What does it means?

Get a life, maybe that way Americans will stop living in your head.

mortal kombat is fucking trash and its already dying.

advanced coping mechanisms

Mortal Kombat is a spectacle fighter. It hasn't been competitivly viable since UMK3 and that was over 20 years ago.

Really!? I thought it was pretty popular since its a normie friendly fightan.

Who the fuck actually wants to play mk11

NRS games are fucking trash

Kasual normies don't kompete and just play for koins and kontent.

It's pretty basic since it appeals to normalfags compared to other fighters

Can't wait to see how many casual noobies' virginity would be very utterly destroyed in SmashUlt and SamSho LOL

They have a large community in the beginning, but they quickly die over time.

>bbtag did more than xrd last year
Are anime fighters dead?

MK11 sucks but most importantly people have already played that shit for the last 5 NRS games, it's basically the same shit but dumbed down.
Samsho is fresh and there isn't anything like it.
Goes to show at the end of the day you can drop millions into esports for a boring game and it you can still be upstaged by a good game with no support.

capcom paying people to enter the SFV tourney

I don't know what's going on but I can't find a match on samsho to save my life. No one is connecting with me on ranked and I can't find a room in casual.

I really think a lot of the complaints about sfv are outdated or based on the lack of sp (lmao!) content.

you will always see tons of normies playing it all the time, but at tournaments NRS games rarely last for more than a year.

>based on the lack of sp
SF V has probably the most SP content in modern fighting games now, saving MK 11

obviously.

Same, maybe they're working on a patch?

I'm not an original fan of Samsho or anything but it does look pretty damn interesting, and I like SNK games. Gonna have to check it out eventually.

Are you match making right now?

No, I tried to play the other day and was having issues.

My main complaint about SFV is still the same.

Presentation is boring as fuck, they went to hard with the minimalist meme. SFIV on the other hand were hype as fuck.

Does anyone remember Street fighter's numbers last year? I cant remember if its grown or shrunk from these numbers. Either way good on the Smash kids.

Pic related for drama queens being divisive about what games are in EVO. Fuck off, fighting games are fun.

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me

If you can would you mind trying to if you're on ps4 right now? I just want to see if it's actually possible to.

Yeah but people made up their minds on release. Who the fuck plays fighters for SP. It's one of the best MP genres and among the worst for SP.
It's obvious to me, but Yea Forums doesn't seem to agree. Then again they don't play fighters. Just talk about how "casual" they all are while sucking dick.

Meleefags still SEETHING at being abandoned

SFV had 2484 entrants last year

I'm an Xbot.

I thought SF4 was ugly as fuck and I like it significantly less than 5 or 3.

Fuck

I will never understand why NRS games bring this much seethe

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because they suck

you can hate capcom all you want, but that sound stupid. You’re stupid user

They're just not good dude. Their animations are worse than some 90s shit.

Just play them

Not really, no one really likes actually playing DBFZ.

Almost 2,500 thanks to Arcade Edition

Because SamSho bring more hype. They had a really good marketing. Meanwhile MK 11 dissapointed a lot with microtransation (fixed) and less whore costumes amd their marketing team sucked ass. I think normies didn’t realize there was a new MK this year, unlike with X that sold a lot.
Game is goos tho

I'm talking not about graphics, but the games mood.

SFV is just bland, the music, lifebars, announcer, everything in its presentation is uninteresting.

The series is the definition of syle over substance. Fun to look at the storymode and fatalities on youtube, total garbage to play.

Dragon Ball fell off hard.

What happened?

This is super subjective, they're about par for me there.

Because nowadays MK sells the best out of all the traditional fighting game franchises.

>AHAHAHAHA MAHVEL INFINITE IS GARBAGE PLAY DBZ INSTEAD FUCK CAPCOM LMAO DBZ CARRIES THE FGC HOOOOOOOOOYPE
>*is shittier*

The band wagon halted and people got struck with reality.

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it's boring

Janemba when?

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Yeah, and MK11 sold way more anyways.

People shilled too hard, and the gameplay was the most boring thing ever created for a tag game and they didn't fixed it, so it eventually backfired since the honeymoon didn't last

thats great. it will still be gone from events in about two months.

Reminder MK has done more to actively damage the fighting game genre more than any series.

>single handely created ESRB
>introduced single player storymodes into a versus genre so it is expected for every game now to divert resources to please casuals retards
>pushed e-sports harder than any other company
>pushed patching culture more than any other company
>agressively pushes lootboxes
>games main attraction is not the gameplay but rather the cinmetic finishers
>games are completely disposable and have planned obsolescence.

As someone who only plays melee i think its ok to replace it with UNIST. EVO should be about keeping it fresh. Where most games live or die by EVO slots, Melee is self-sustainable. It's a loss for sure, but for entertainment purposes there are better tournaments to watch.

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And? Do you own Warner Brothers stock?

The story mode shit is really bad. Every single one except for MK9's is terrible.

Normies sure love their customization and fatalities but sure won't stay long after that

>>agressively pushes lootboxes
How I can tell you actually don't play MK.

MK has no lootboxes

I kinda liked Armageddon was it? with the overworld you ran around on.

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Deception?

>The story mode shit is really bad
Bad as it may be, MK's story mode is light years ahead of what passes for plot in both SF and Tekken. I mean, they even have a writer and everything.

IP issues for the most part. It was never gonna hit 2k again but it would've at least 1.4-1.5k had Bamco actually managed the game right.

OH NO NONONONO TEKKENBROS

w-what went wrong??? how could shit fighter beats us AGAIN?!?!?

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I don't play fighting games retard, I'm white.
Doesn't change the fact that MK has lootboxes out the ass

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>dropping from 5k to less than 2k players
I thought america loved sf

Yep. I think fighting game is something so great.

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Man, FighterZ and Crosstag truly do not deserve to be there, same with Soul Calibur. All three are dead games nobody plays anymore even through they still get updates and shit. They should have put Central Fiction, Rev2 and Dead or Alive 6 in those slots, they'd of gotten better numbers.

maybe because neither of those two franchises give a fucking shit about pointless filler like that and rather put it towards superior gameplay and animations.
there is literally no genre worse for storytelling.

LMAO

if your game leader was a yiffy furry who is unbeatable I would leave too

DoA is a trash franchise and will always be

>introduced single player storymodes into a versus genre so it is expected for every game now to divert resources to please casuals retards
This is seriously an issue. Few genres have stories so consistently garbage as the fighting genre and good old gaming journos now always expect one of those garbo modes shoved in.

OH SHIT user, TIME TO HALT THE SHITFLINGING FOR A SECOND TO LIST
>current fightan game you are playing
>your main in it
>region

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why do people hate melee?

But of course, SF literally has no story whatsoever and Tekken is pure parody. Even fucking Toshinden had way more plot than both of them

None.
None.
White America.

There's no shame in quitting when you're outmatched. Whites can't win at them or at RTS so why even try.

I'm sure fps and mobas are cool to someone though.

>BB:CBT
Who cares at this point

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SFV
Birdie
EU

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jealousy

tekken just tried to do serious story and the result was awfully boring.
they have to go back to comedy outros. those were creative and funny.

>DOA6/SamSho/KI
>Hitomi/Ukyo/Sadira
>Burger

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600 people

ssbu & figtherz
ike & zamasu/videl/broly
us east

>RTS
*ahem*

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It was hot garbage and character stories seriously suffered for it, but holy hell was it still worth it for every single akuma scene

Tekken 7
Armor King
US Midwest

Might be, I forgot the name, but I liked that story mode where you ran around and did shit.

the way they handled akuma was awful too desu.
only the volcano fight with the mishimas was ok.

>Street Fighter 5
>2016 - 5000+
>2019 - 1929

USF4 had more players in 2015 (2227) than SF5 does this year. What a travesty of a game.

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Most people dont hate melee itself but there are a few issues with it
Smash and melee, whatever you wanna call the genre, are still different from the other games at it's core so people are annoyed smash is there at all
Melee itself, however is just stale at this point with the same faggots doing the same shit over and over
Smash scene has more manchild drama compared to niggy drama too, so different types of entertainment for others too

>day of the soap

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>Melee itself, however is just stale at this point with the same faggots doing the same shit over and over
but didnt a falcon just win a major recently?

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evo without marvel is dead anyway

Can we agree that Death in fighting games is fucking shit
>kill off character
>oh shit, people actually like/play this character
>bring back character like nothing happened OR resurrect them and try to fit it in the story

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I'm surprised SFV didn't pull another free tshirt stunt desu

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>MK11
>Kano
>US East

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>smash most popular fighting game
fuck nincels
fuck this timeline

Except nash was never explicitly labed as deceased retard

Wow you won one in the dumbed down game. Show me some BW wins.

Better than removing fan favourites for ''story'' ''reasons'' unless you decide to sell them as dlc or just change them in all but name, like a certain company keeps doing

It's easy to enter smash at evo because the skill level is so low. You have to put in work to enter in an actual fighting game.

Samsho
Charlotte
US

>westerners make a game with actual production values and are rewarded with high sales as a result
>ree stop doing this

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Seething snoy

SF5
Cammy
South America

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MK11
Kabal
US
Taking a break though because I spent several days ladder grinding to get end of season rewards and I'm burnt out. I kinda want to get SamSho.

bros i really hope they announce marvel 4 and it isnt shit

Fuck off, let marvel rest for a few years so the bad taste subsides and the chances of a x-men fuck up lowers
What we need is a new darkstalkers

>What went right?
No Melee

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I honestly don't understand why MK is as big as it is right now. It was always a janky imitation of japanese fighters with none of the thought put into it.

Serral isn't a white, he's a robot. They're still trying to figure out how to make him smile.

Smash Ultimate
Ice Climbers
US midwest

I don't even own a snoy console you brainwashed retard
I just think fighting games should be about badasses and sexy girls beating the living shit out of each other
not bing bing wahoo cartoon fucking plumbers
kys

yes, and a pikachu

It's not even a win when SC2 was at peak competitiveness either

>they drop melee
>e..evo NEEDS melee!! you'll lose people
>does better without it
what did they mean by this?

brand name & marketing

>Samsho/SoulCalibur
>Haohmaru/Nightmare
>brazil

Feel free to make one with actual gameplay next time.
Smash isn't a fighting game, so don't worry.

here's a real arse question.

If MK isn't a competitively viable game then why do the same people win every time?

Wouldn't that show that skill does translate directly to success in the game?

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Then why don't the other pros from other fighters enter and win if the skill cap is so low

UNIST isn't so good that the only way people would dislike it is the artstyle. I like the game, but it's not that good.

UNIST/GG/Tekken
Chaos/Sin/Shaheen
SA

That logic makes melee three times more competitive than brood war then

>better lore
>better story
>better characters
>more content
>offends people
>rated M
>FATALITIES

SamSho/UNIST
Darli/Wagner
Southeast US

it is? any fighting game is

Found the Tekkenfag

Woah...

People get into fighting games through competitive spirit, not just to make money. Why play something where real competition cannot exist?

Why play tee ball when you can play baseball.

Why play checkers when you can play chess.

Melee is from 2001 and is still being played today, I don't like it anymore than you do but objectively it's gotta be pretty competitively viable if it's been actually competed in for so long, no?

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MK11's meta has already been figured out and it's a game where mistakes add up instead of a game where mistakes kill you in 1 shot

Smash is a fighting game, snoytranny
In fact, smash ultimate is the best selling fighting game of all time

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These NRS games die out in a year or so. Think about that instead.

Not a fighting game. It's a really great selling party game though. Right up there with mario party!

SamSho and GG
Yoshitora and Answer
EU

>Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is a 2018 crossover fighting game
>fighting game

except for the fact that he was.
literally shot to death by his own troops in every alpha ending he was part of.
thats why he's an illuminati zombie now.

its a very american game.
blood and violence.

I don't care how many time you say it. It's just not the case fella. How was this year's mario party btw? I need something to play after smash.

seething

Didn’t even read the post... I never fucking insulted Melee or Ultimate you absolute faggot. The one seething is you, but I don’t know why.

Smash Ultimate chads are absolutely DOMINATING your event... you gonna be okay? I know it meant everything to you but it belongs to them now sweetie :(

What are you talking about? I mean the positioning of the games in the list, if those numbers are right DBFZ is in 6th and UNIST in 7th

Considering how well SNK is doing with SamSho, I expect KoF XV to be fucking great.

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You don't get it. Literally ever other game there gets along. You guys are the smelly immigrants that won't adjust to your surroundings. You're well outnumbered.

It wasnt a comment against melee but more about brood war though

I think they’re a samsho fan user

Cope

But Samsho has been a complete flop, not even 100K copies sold.

bathe

>it's yet another shitflinging Evo thread

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>game
sfv
>main
alex and balrog
>region
EU

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Same reason call of duty got a massive bump that elevated it to normie status, it was controversial and got a lot of actual cable television news coverage. Same with DOOM.
Controversy, riling up the actual baby boomer bible thumpers, when done right leads to massive interest by the general public. The average person at the time didn’t keep up with videogame news or even know someone kept track of that, so when their news anchor stared talking about a game that made them interested

>view count usually drops at Evo because shit is running so late
>now smash will have to endure this
wew lads

UNI/Samsho
Yuzu/Char
Can

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Yeah this is a fucking war and the real fighting game fans will have eachothers backs.

The game paid its cost with the pre-sales alone and already sold out, SamSho were never big.

enter

yyyyasssss we are legion

shower

Have you read the thread? You r/kappa retards only get along with eachother to attack other games. A GG and BB fan may attack some smash sperg together but at the end of the day they’ll be attacking eachother as well. Retarded people are quite often very angry just like on Yea Forums after all

You should be used to feeling excluded lmaooooooooooooooooooo

UNIST/Smash/GG
Linne/Ike/Jam
Just moved to West Canada because of work

>Let the furry with the tournament by cheating in the final round
>Game is now near last place
THE STATE OF DBFZ

enter

We got some SNK intern here that knows about the state of the company bros

>Literally ever other game there gets along
I had to stop frequenting /fgg/ altogether because the autists over there simply couldn't talk about the games they enjoy without flinging shit about the ones they hate.

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How do you know that?

because /fgg/ is SFV general newfriend

/vg/ is a fate worse than death, niggers there dont even actually play the games they talk about.Try starting a lobby in any game and post there.

3492

>FUCK MELEE AAAA FUCK MELEE
>FUCK STREET FIGHTER AAAA FUCK STREET FIGHTER
>FUCK ULTIMATE AAA FUCK ULTIMATE
>ok so about samshos mechan-
>FUCK DRAGON BALL AAAAAAA FUCK DRAGON BALL

there’s your thread

SamSho
Jubei
SEA
Fighting game threads in Yea Forums is always a mistake user

Nah, I quite enjoy SF5 and the place was intolerable anyway. It's an impressively awful community no matter what game you enjoy.

>Fighting game threads in Yea Forums is always a mistake user
Unless there's a lobby
Yea Forums lobbies are unironically a lot more fun than expected and brings ok discussion to the thread as well, wish they were more common.

>dbfz surpassed unist in the end

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All the other fighting games getting dabbed on by SF5, which hasn't done anything for the past 6 months.

>FUCK YOUR FAVORITE GAME AAAAAAAAAAA AND FUCK YOU

Because if my memory is not mistaken, people from other fighting game general falseflag there, not to mention crossposters during tournaments, but anyway it's a great way to see the state of the FGC

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Samsho
Hanzo
Clapistan

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Grandblue is gonna kill itself tho

It’s a fighting game cope

Why don't fighting game players bathe, bros?

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This, just like crosstag it's too simple to hold people's attention for long and the roster is lacking

No way DoA would have higher numbers than SC

BBTAG isn't simple, specially now with how the game got opened up more.

I don't get it.+

Yes it is, pick this bitch and you win

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You mean one of the ones who got a lot of their gimmick stuff toned down and now has to have decent execution to get damage?

That's not Yuzu

Not with Cygames money backing it up

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Nigger Ruby is fucking dead. Its all about Akihiko bullshit Happy Birthday ToDs now

They should use Ruby's new design where she has shonen hair bigger boobs, thighs and a mini skirt compared to the poofy dress

She's cute.

>t.Someone who doesnt know Cygames
They're gonna bankroll the FGC if things go as planned.

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CAPCOM

y-yeah bros just like Shadowverse is the most popular card game right now and totally not played only by weebs? Right? Cygames money can buy the whole fighting game industry

>/vg/ is a fate worse than death, niggers there dont even actually play the games they talk about
does Yea Forums?

twitter.com/tempestromeo/status/1132034276877316098?s=21
Wew

>they shilled Shadowverse into being a massive money maker that makes more money than the majority of online TCGs
???
Nigga it aint hard. They literally pushed 10 million across an entire year for the Shadowverse circuit in 2018. If GBFV gets even a tenth of that it'll have the biggest circuit in the FGC.

>dont even actually play the games they talk about
the irony of this post

Actually, Shadowverse is still pretty popular, all things considered. The playerbase is still solid despite the fuck ups they did. Literally name any other ccg on the market outside of HS and you still have SV with a playerbase that shouldve died back 2017

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Its like asking why the biggest shit-eaters in the world don't get dethroned. Because generally people dont want to eat shit.

Shadoba is still making money and Cygames is still doing yearly $1,000,000 tournaments.

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This is my first FGC tournament I will be going to, and will be hard deciding what I want to watch.

Why don't you play?
The evo numbers thing is a bit of a meme because no matter how many people show up, you already know who's going to win and it's not goinna be one of the thousands of random Mexican pot monsters
For example, the top 8 for the first year of SFV was all people that were already known
And Tekken has the same top 8 all the time as well
I'm not sure why the FGC hates the idea of invitational tournaments so much when it's the same 20 guys showing up in the higher placements anyway
Did you know that there are people that go to majors just to hang out with their gay buttbudies, never do better than place 0-2, but still show up to every major anyway?
These people literally just show up so they can say that they are part of the fighting game community, even if they barely play fighting games and lose to random button mashers.
And I think these are the people getting devestated over the idea of invitationals.
Frosty Bolt made a good post about this
"Please, don't just go to major tournaments to make friends. Be concerned with your play"
and the casual waifutard anime addicted tards of the fighting game community got angry at him for it.
This is why so many tournaments are basically just conventions now.

You’re 100% right on Tekken being a soulless cash grab since it’s bamco’s prize child and had zero reason to be that phoned it. I like t7 still cause all they did was just polish the shit out of the gameplay so that’s not me shitting on t7 for the sake of it but it really does say soulless because of the situation it was in during development which was not a whole lot of trouble, they had a budget and plenty of time.

SC6 on the other hand is not soulless. Only reason sc6 was at all redeemable was because it wasn’t soulless. Since sc is not a bamco prime baby so it got tossed in the trash to scavenge what it can and expect to release it by a deadline and not whenever the fuck they wanted to like Harada got. SC6 had no time, no budget, development hell for sometime yet despite that the devs did their best to try to cater to all the fans and make them as happy as they can. Everything about that game was in their to try to make some group happy without the proper budget. So you can debate about the end products quality, but if sc6 didn’t have some kind of soul, we wouldn’t even be talking about this since sc6 would have been flat out irredeemable shit

Do you know what that word even means user

yeah nobody would like to have the highest earnings in fighting game history, right?

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He's gonna get cancer someday. Being in the furry community can lead to many bad outcomes.

SV got more than 1million. Across the entire year the official prize total equals 10million. 1million was the largest single pot for the final championship.

>caring about main stage games when the side tournaments are where the soul is at

STINKY

Fuck Smash

what side tournaments you entering?

MK11 is sjw garbo

>implying
It's all about who's playing
Last year's majin matches were always fucking hype in tekken, we got knee this year as well

HIV is more likely desu. Which is great since it means a common cold would put him out of his misery

>Smash ult cementing the series legacy at evo with 3.5k entrants

How is rkappa coping?

First year numbers never mean anything because they're always inflated.

Money won't stop it being boring as shit. MK gets loads of money dumped into it and still falls off in views and entrants fast. And that is MK, a game that sells 10 million easy. The game is more basic than even simplified fighters right now. Probably only fantasy strike has more going on. They've even said in interviews that they are hoping the pretty visuals will be what can keep people's attention.

*Probably only fantasy strike has less going on

Agree. Soul Calibur VI is such an underrated game.

SMELLY

I just wish Smash and MK were cut.

They are so boring go watch

Ultimate will be getting patches and dlc all the way through next year so I'm afraid they'll be dominating next year as well. thanks for showing me a coping mechanism they may use though

Just don't watch them?

They've outright said GBV is not going to be the same scale of esports.

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>Muslim Cuckbat 11
Who wants to play that garbage on fire of a game?
MK9 is vastly superior to X and XI combined.

Smashchads rise up. To think crowdfunding $94,683 for the donation drive in 2013 was all it took to break in. Developers have spent millions on eSports that have floundered the second the money dried up, if not earlier.

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Default settings are 'your region only', change it.

Wait it's coming out this year? There is only 4 1/2 months till the year ends.

>they'd of
They'd have.

MK9 story is good because is a reboot of the original trilogy.

Obnoxious fans.

You’re overcomplicating it. Take out CTB, replace it with either Melee, UMvC3 or BBCF.

Yep, unless they start vomiting trailers soon expect a very small cast. Sub 16 isn't unlikely even if they do. I'm still shocked we got nothing at E3, seems like we will get something around EVO but not at the event itself. Instead at the own GBF event on at the same time. I think the game will do well enough, but people acting like it will be a big contender are off. It stood a chance at one time, but it will need to do a lot more things right to gain traction at this point.

take out cross tag, sc6 and fighterz
replace with BBCF,GGREV2 and DOA6
UMvC3 ain't ever coming back because of Wiz's fued with marvel and Smeelee is donezo it's gone for good and nobody wants to see those assholes again

What are the chances they announce GBVS to come out the day after EVO

Melee would still beat UNIST, Dragonball, Soul Calibur and BlazBlue, if we're comparing participants to the average of the last few years. Hardly obsolete, kinda pathetic how quick other fighting games lose their relevance.

CyGames has been focusing on showing off GBVS at anime cons for western audiences, E3 was not on their radar at all

Less than none

I like those odds

Try ctrl f melee. literally no one in the thread likes melee its 27 results of rkappa spergs seething

The difference is Japan actually gives a shit about Granblue. Also Daigo is contractually obligated to play GBV

Games are too drawn out to be interesting to viewers and the game’s competitive future isn’t clear enough for top players to justify the time investment.

That's not really true, they had the same booth at E3 that they've had in a few place. They've haven't put more effort into anime cons, which are a smaller audience anyway.

Sure, and Japan is a tiny portion of sales and the playerbase of a game. They already know about it, if they want it to be he huge esport like people here hype up then they need to appeal to more people. The game is a harder sell in the west and they have done less to try and get it to take off. Once you get seen as a dead anime game in the west your job has just become 100 times harder.

Which games will Sonicmeme play?

MK11, DBFZ, UNIST

Smash Ultimate has more entrants than Melee and Sm4sh combined did last year, enjoy the smell.

Smash Ultimate
Bayonetta
US East

ah I forgot about that booth
And it is a smaller overall audience sure, but anime cons have more of their target audience I'd say

no sc6?

twitter.com/SonicFox5000/status/1146155589136998400

I thought he dropped that game after getting bodied

>Insanely high skill floor
>Everyone else had a 20 year head start training over you
>Skills don't carry over to other games, so you need to be autistically focused on this single game
And because this is Yea Forums
>Nintendo exclusive

After he got humiliated by Partywolf, no I dont think so. Also his main got nerfed.

UNI
Hyde
Midwest
I'm down to play you if you're on PSN. Probably been practicing seth too much instead of my main

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Anyone has the shoop skills to edit the scythe into a katana?

>but anime cons have more of their target audience I'd say
It is kind of hard to say. They seem to want it ti be a game for fans who have never touched a console, a game for competitive players and the break out game for GBF in the west. Anime fans are the most obvious target, but at the same time it is like well they will buy it anyway you don't really need to specifically target them. I get very mixed signals from the interviews and how they act.

BBTAG
Carmine
NA

ESRBs are a better alternative to government issued ratings so why even complain

gay tranny

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Not the smell I can tell you that!

Government is bound by the first ammendment. Some random private censorship board isn't.
Cope

The 0 muscle mass gut on the left is so unattractive

>The only fun character in Street Fighter 5

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SMASHERS

One of the top Melee players(Wizzrobe) is like a year older than Melee.

>Guilty Gear and Samurai Showdown
>Baiken. Charlotte, Shiki, Nakoruru
>EU
I like the simplicity of SamSho, but I also can't take it very seriously because of it. I want movement (NOT entirely air based like melty) and combos. Guilty Gear has that, but its filled with characters I hate fighting against because of gimmicks like Faust and JackO, and also setplay characters like I-No and Millia.

I want something that is more in the middle but there isn't anything. Granblue nails movement, but completely lacks in the offense part because there's hardly any interesting combos, so it ends up being as simple as SamSho

Where is Dead or Alive?

Did I miss something?

What a shit EVO

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Gordeau's the dead one. Ruby got buffed despite being top 5.

>but completely lacks in the offense part because there's hardly any interesting combos, so it ends up being as simple as SamSho
It actually looks simpler. Samsho has a load of weird meter shit going on, along with things working different from most games. For a simple game it has a lot of mechanics and interesting character tools. GBV you don't even need to think about meter management. GBV's combos might only just be more complex than Samsho, they've said in interviews the whole basic auto combo followed by a special is all they intend to have. The only complexity I see is managing your ex cooldowns, which is more don't use your important moves unless it will kill. That game is going to need really stand out characters to have anything going on

Something something ETHICS

Gonna fap to Kunoichi 3 again, bros.

what do you mean ethics?

Mortal Kombat is there, so that can't be it

I'm happy for it because SNK is a soulful company when they put effort on their games but let's not kid ourselves thinking samsho will remain this popular the next few years, unfortunately.

>Smash Ultimate has 3k entrants
>FGCucks STILL look down on Smash

It could still be popular, depends on how they handle the pc release and the dlc characters considering how the fighting game market also shifted a bit

Reasonable people know Smash is just there for the money otherwise it's not taken seriously.

I'll be very surprised if they bother with crossplay. PC version is absolutely doomed without it.

I honestly think the guarantee that Melee would still get a shitton of entrants but not as much as Ultimate was the deciding factor in having to go with one game. I believe MrWizard talked about 2016 SF5 and 2018 DBFZ making the event a nightmare to manage. EVO is getting to be too big for 3 days in the current venue, but still isn't quite big enough for 4 days or a bigger venue. If they ever go through with making the jump for bigger and better things, I expect them to pull out all the stops and host at least a few more main stage games.

Is there a total number of entrants last year compared to this year yet? Last year the venue was hardly packed, there was a shitton of open space and it was chilly in Mandalay Bay to boot

Toei literally closing tournaments and threatening suits. It got ranma 1/2'd and people don't bother anymore since Toei is right there to fuck with them.

>Soulful
>Bought by the chinks
They're not gonna be soulful forever.

I'm the Hyde main now
youtube.com/watch?v=5h9fY7U2ACU

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Look, dude. People who actually like playing fighting games are the least important audience to consider when making a fighting game. Casual appeal brings in more dollar signs, and results in more stream views for tournaments.

In order to make a successful fighter, you need to have enough single-player content to justify casuals dropping $60 for your game at launch, and also make it interesting enough for people who aren't at a competetive-level (that's most of the people who'll play the fucking thing) to want to watch it be played by those who can.

Much as FGC-cucks hate to admit it, Smash is the only game that has achieved this

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Worst part is it's their own fault. ArcSys fans just move onto the next game they make and never truly master the last one. Guilty Gear is the only thing that comes close to hanging with the others but even that isn't here this year. Say what you want about SFV and Tekken 7, but those games are what ArcSys should aspire for instead of just dumping other companies IPs into their engine and fragmenting their audience across several games.

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wtf I love Hyde now?

>Not surprising though as theres really nothing new to it and what mechanics that are new really arent fun to use
Lethal hits are the best new mechanic of any fighter this generation though

>smash still allowed at a fighting game tournament
Literally nothing, imagine still watching evo in current year

Want to test that?

Imagine still seething in current year.

I think that video is proof enough

Yeah, you missed the part where people said they wouldn't buy this shit and the fucked up netcode on launch and present. Game is barely doa6. It's more like 5.3

All the players are at home masturbating so no one would sign up.

There's a chart from earlier in the thread.
i.4cdn.org/v/1563292378565.jpg
It's hard to figure out actual attendance because of varying degrees of people entering multiple games and at least a couple thousand non-participating attendees. 2016 was fucking huge, 2017 had a huge drop, 2018 was somewhere between the two, and 2019 is almost back up to 2016 levels. If you threw another ~2,000 entrant game in there (and Melee players are pretty much there for Melee with very little overlap), I don't think the event could handle it.

His main is top tier again so maybe he'll enter and try to meme on people

>UNIST 'n Tekken
> Akatsuki 'n Law
>NA

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Remember when Yea Forums said Smash Ultimate would just be flavor of the month?

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How could anyone seriously be retarded enough to think a smash game would be flavor of the month? Especially when the characters are expected to take up to 2020 to finish releasing.

I was there last year and the smash kids basically had their own set-up in the far corner away from most of the crowd.

Guilty Gear has never been strong user. Even back in the days of AC, that game was niche through and through. Blazblue was actually where they got more fans and a solid western following. The fanbases for those titles will always be there. Its not like GG playerbase mvoed on to BB when GG temporarily died, or when Persona became a thing, BB players still played BB. Same shit with DBFZ, apart from Kazunoko and other well known multigame specialists, they never abandoned their original game. It's not spreading thin, its branching out and I would say its working, its just that every single one of ASW's titles have small bases so it appears like they're never growing.

that dude on the left has eyes 3 inches apart.

help how do i enjoy fighting against setplay characters and grapplers without regretting buying the game

>sc6 and bbctb
Remove one of those and put goober in and you'll have 9/10 games in the 1000's for entrants.

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Guilty Gear got like 620 entrants last year

why is dbfz the only one out of numerical order?

Even the pros are tired of GG. The balance of the latest patch was questionable. Also Omito will win again, no need to make it mainstage to know that

>wanting to see another major won by Omito Johnny for free

Adjust your mentality. Respect that you have to play around that instead of holding down-back on default. Those characters want to condition you for their sets or their grabs; realise when you're being conditioned. Then respect those who do it well, and fuck over anyone who you can resist. Then you're having fun

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>Respect losing to 50/50s that lead to more 50/50s even if I successfully block

Arc sys is also way smaller than capcom or bamco.
Getting that cygames and bamco money is probably extremely helpful for them.
I think it's amazing that such a specalized studio so dedicated to their style is able to survive today.

Pic from their GDC presentation, they didn't invent any new technologies or anything, its just that nobody else cares so much about getting that kind of look. Everyone else just sees how incredibly specalized and time consuming it is to use their techniques and goes NOPE.

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user, I-No high/lows are hardly conditioning, you just throw out 3 or more 50/50s in a row and they either guess right and block all of them or you win.
>Fuzzy guarding
If they fuzzy guard, you can just delay one 50/50 and get in easily.

The secret to fighting I-no is to mash 2P, no lie. Of course dont let the I-no player catch you. Current Xrd rev 2 I-no is such an unfun bullshit character to fight against. Even when Im playing Axl who has a very good matchup with her Im still not having fun.

GG and DBFZ are so boring to watch. I'm glad they're not getting much spotlight lately.

DBFZ I get, GG is far from boring though, especially when Japanese players are involved.

youtube.com/watch?v=skrcaaBev5A

Play KOF then

It's unironically dead in EU

Guess I should've been more specific in my post. I was referring to Rev2, not GG as a whole. My bad.

Still a good watch. Any major with Japanese player presence without Omito is automatically a good major. Evo Japan 2019 was a testament to this.

I feel so bad for you ;_;

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Yeah GG's my favorite fighter, but I can't really be mad when we haven't gotten jack shit in terms of support outside of one shitty balance patch which we're still stuck on by the way, since Rev2's release which was by the way when T7's fucking console release was, that's how long ago it was already.

Doesn't help they cancelled arcfes that was happening two weeks after evo so I guarantee we aren't seeing a new GG anytime soon at this point.

>Doesn't help they cancelled arcfes that was happening two weeks after evo so I guarantee we aren't seeing a new GG anytime soon at this point.
Arc revo, it's been obvious ever since they announced arc revo itself at the GGR2 finals at EVO

you sound like you're seething really hard over the one year that tekken had mroe entrants than SFV. Get over it already dude. SFV is complete garbage but SF is pretty much always gonna be the top game in the FGC, due to money and the fact that the FGC leaders are all boomers from the SFII days

I thought the obvious one was arcfes since they made a big deal about it. I'm honestly not even holding out hope for arc revo at this point.

Well why didn't you say you wanted help against I-No, so? Just I don't play Guilty Gear

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Kazuya and Millia

both BB and GG are setplay shitfests
are there any anime fighting games that are on the same level of "popularity" as GG and BB but aren't riddled with setplay
UNIST doesn't have airdashes so not that one

No

Crossplay is expensive, no jap fightan dev will bother with true crossplay

wow
is it really that hard to make an anime fighter without shitting it up with setplay?
why is ASW so bad at game design

Clearly not
For one, if it was as popular as GG and BB, then you would have heard about it but clearly you haven't and no one else has. If you wanted something incredibly fundamental then go play Koihime with like the 10 other people that play it

Borrowing lethal hits from sc6 is the best thing mk11 did desu

BB is less setplay since techrolling is a thing. Outside of characters like Valkenhayn or Izanami, you're more worried about getting baited for counterhits into an optimized combo than setplay.

Also the nature of any game with airdashes will always involve strong 50/50s. one way or another. Anyway try Melty Blood.

I see Yea Forums are still shit talking, you punks bitched out of the fight between afgg and v nut up or shut up

>I don't want setplay
>Play melty blood dude
>The game with Akiha and Roa

Setplay is almost always a reward for winning neutral. It's not bad design if the defensive mechanic for it is equally as strong. There are egregious examples like I-no In Guilty gear but for the most part, if you have to eat a 50/50 to begin with, you lost neutral.

>Anyway try Melty Blood.
That takes place entirely in the air.

I like Guilty Gear and BlazBlue's movement, it's perfect. I also like the length of the combos in them for the basic characters. So I don't want to play Koihime, which is entirely grounded, or Melty Blood/Arcana heart that take place mostly in the air with awful grounded 'anti airs'.

But GG and BB are filled with 50/50 mixup nigger 50 minute pressure characters like Leo, Ramlethal, I-No, Millia, Izanami, Valkenhayn, Rachel, Carl. RUINS the games for me

Yea Forums already won, there wasn't a contest

I don't think anyone on /vg/ could beat the Yea Forums UNI group

smash is the gayest fucking shit, who would want to learn that bing bing wahoo bullshit over a real fighting game.

Every fighter with an airdash means you have to deal with strong pressure and mixups. If you can't handle those, then go play KoF or UNIST which is a nice in-between

They are nowhere near as cancerous and game designed with the strongest defensive options ever in fighting game. Also, take this.

youtube.com/watch?v=mJwPOefYnoI

Baron was Yea Forums's weakest akatsuki and most of /vg/ still struggle to beat his ass after a year
That says a lot

>Capcom cucks pretending they don't actively seethe about smash

Imagine simultaneously having a superiority complex and a victim complex

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>Every fighter with an airdash means you have to deal with strong pressure and mixups.
No. It has nothing to do with that. You do not see me complaining about Ragna, Jin, Sol, Sin, Es, Mai, Bullet, Makoto, Hazama, Ky, etc.
I-No has strong mixups because of her hover dash.
Izayoi uses hover dashes for mixups too.
Leo's pressure lasts forever and has a bunch of 50/50s because of his stances.
Ramlethal has eternal pressure because of her sword gimmick and Tekken strings.
Valkenhayn 50/50s utilize his wolf movement.
Rachel's 50/50s utilize wind.
Izanami uses ribcage for her setplay, and float.

All of these are character specific mechanics, NOT the base mechanics.

I find it weird you complain about Leo's pressure when you don't have a problem with Jin and Ky. Also why do you have a problem with Valk when Hazama can just mix you up with Serpen;ts Benediction and instant overheads or lows from across the screen?

>I find it weird you complain about Leo's pressure when you don't have a problem with Jin and Ky
Jin and Ky don't have Azreal and Leo pressure, wtf are you on about?

Ky is the king of fraudulent pressure resets. c.S frametrap 6H which is plus on block that can loop back to 5K. If you don't see his 6H, you're gonna have to hold that again, and if you guess wrong you may eat a 5H into a knockdown into grinder setplay. 6K is also another dumb command normal that also resets pressure and moves him forward.

Jin has a slew of command normals that just loop back if you fail to block his canned string starting with 5BB There's a reason he's top tier in CF

smash is the most popular because the skill ceiling is low enough for children, disabling items for balance? Fuck that shit have these niggers ever heard of map control, smash is fun with that element of randomness and a good player who losses to a random hammer isnt really good and has no map control, a good quake player doesnt lose because the other guy managed to snag the megahealth. when you boil down smash to its most basic fighting elements its just a boring piece of shit. plus nintendo is fucking gay, before you start accusing me of being a capcom cuck or whatever street fighter 5 can fucking suck it too, stupid fucking arc system anime shitty combo faggot garbage can suck it, MK11 SJW faggotry can suck it.

I never fall for frametraps because I rarely try to mash out.
Leo is just worse because he does multiple high/lows and crossups in a row.

shut up quake fag

>Baron
>weakest member
Sup Yea Forums still talking shit like we wouldn't find out? Square up this Sunday then.

Snoy

at least I dont need to turn off the weapon pick ups so I dont cry

What's going on sunday?

I wasn't aware /afgg/ played on psn, want to square down and get some quick matches in now then?

>weakest member
Where did he say that? He's their weakest akatsuki

With Leo, you have to know the nature of his stance cancels. He can only do the crossup move from certain normals, to which you can respond by option selecting grab 6HS or 6PH to grab him out of his dash. His overheads are reactable but always be aware of the unblockable dropkick which you may have to train yourself to Blitz the moment you see the wind up. Honestly, the best way to fight Leo is to keep them at midrange and always call out their crossover dash so they question their options.

Yea Forums vs /afgg/ round 2

/afgg/ can afford PS4s?

So this is NRS animation...woah.

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>normalfag friendly
>fighting

I'm guessing you're really surprised at FighterZ tanking in players too

i bought unist way back and dont play it much but i guarantee i can beat everyone but the top 3 players in /afgg/

Who said I was complaining about anything? Retard

It shows that no one wants to play the game to begin with

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You'll be eating your words sunday.

No I'm serious, are there even enough players from /afgg/ to even make a team on PSN?

Let me get back to you on that

Frank already got beat by a Hyde player
Halfire also got shit on

hahah nice

tekken never had more entrants than SF at evo.

what's an afgg?

>Anus
>Lain
>Lappa
>Halfire
If baron can beat you while singing is gay Italian techno, you are not going to be on the team, I'm sorry.

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I was only at 10% of my full stretch kiddo

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i hope so

challonge.com/communities/afgg/leaderboards/players/61320/ranked_members

Some faggot /vg/ general full of trannies, tripfags, and avatarfags. Its 100x worse than even the worst threads on Yea Forums so I suggest you don't look into it.

There's a lot of people that play UNIST as a side game but not enough to make a team

>implying anyone here can even touch /mlp/ at that horse fighting game

Even icey could deal with them.

You guys, unironically, seriously, have a guy called Anus?
And you RESPECT him?

Is this even supposed to tell me that they have a PS4 to participate?

He's called Anzu but they hate him, so he's called anus

No one would want to touch anything from /mlp/.

>the absolute state of Connect_Four

What's this about gay Italian techno?

Nigger I started playing the game a week ago and I'm certain I will dab on your tripfags

this a shitpost by the way. stop responding to retards trying to incite drama.

I really like the rwby character designs why did the show have to be so shitty?

These numbers seem really low, especially for some of the newer games. The FGC is dying. Thank God

RT can't write or act to save their lives.

>Anus
I want to see this guy play, sounds like an interesting fellow

It's not.

hes called anzu not anus, its a nickname

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It's more like a record high actually. People keep looking at FG numbers comparing them to Dota, not realizing it's always been a really niche genre that's only recently getting a big push.

So this is the best afgg has to offer?

Its crazy to see that Tekken is still growing. I guess it took slomo and gunshot sounds on counterhits for people to realize what a fun series it is.

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is that actually /pol/ playing or are they just memeing? I wonder what a fighting game tournament across the boards would look like. I can really only see Yea Forums putting up a fight thanks to all the anime fighters out there. Yea Forums too maybe if they were big into the Marvel days.

That guy posts on /pol/ and talks about his /pol/ conspiracy theories all the time.
Most of /afgg/ is so bad at Unist he can just rant about whatever while commentating and still win.
youtu.be/t-AVgOnAKkA?t=4340

It's a right leaning guy vs an actual leftist

no. it's just one guy who really hates anzu and loves to shipost about him. anzu is one of the worse afgg players.

who are the best and worst players in afgg, and what games do they play?

>right leaning
>leaning
>quotes Varg Vikernes and Icycalm on the regular

SF is still boring rock paper scissors at high level. It's more famous because it requires significantly less IQ to play and follow.

most play cf, not very many people play uni or gg since there's a separate gen for that.

Remove that trash XTAG shit and put another game in. Bring back CF.

unlike other fighting games which are ????

That says out of the gate. Which is obvious of them doing that. Give it a year see how it does and then let's talk again.

The best players are:
ScrubP: Jin (BBCF) player
Test: plays almost every anime game, has multiple mains
Frankentank: Waldstein/Potemkin main, UNIST/GG
Fist: Bang (BBCF) main
mAce: Valkenhayn (BBCF) main, but he's EU

Worst players are:
Anzu: Vatista/Es main, UNIST/BBCF
DARunner: BBTAG player, forgot his mains, Hazama + someone
Vidya: tried playing multiple games, stuck to Xrd with Baiken or CF with Ragne the longest, I forgot, but he ended up quitting or something so he doesn't play anymore

Tekken 7 is super fun to play and watch at high level because it's deep enough to allow really good players to be creative.

>
> I wonder what a fighting game tournament across the boards would look like
sounds like fun, reminds me of the Yea Forums soccer cup

Good on MK, UNIST, and SamSho! I do hope SamSho isn't just another KoF13 though. Where it was everyone's side game and nobody really played it

thats the fucking brainlet response I expected.

muh shirts

Notice how two of the worst players are waifufags. Well, I guess the other guy played Ragna too, but still.
People who pick with their dicks really do just give up or stay bad.

it wouldn't. it would be extremely one sided due to how fighting games work. Yea Forums and /vg/ along any board that happened to have an fg player would mop the floor with everyone else.

It's not. Numbers are bigger across the board. More people are trying different games, which is actually good, over one game cannibalizing everything.

does afgg have any good BBTAG or DBFZ players?

I use Yea Forums and /vg/ for fightan, but I would rep Yea Forums. Would that be allowed?

Yes, that is how games work user.It would still be interesting.Boards without good players could choose champions from other boards too, how about that?

Fist and scrubP play BBTAG on the side, I think.
AFAIK Vidya was the only one who played DBFZ, he allegedly got an orange square but ended up quitting, everyone else really hates that game.

>heard of map control, smash is fun with that element of randomness and a good player who losses to a random hammer isnt really good and has no map control
One of the core elements of Smash is having stage control, true. But what’s false is equating items in smash to weapon and item pick-ups in an FPS. The weapons and items in an FPS are going to be the same thing in the same location every time they spawn (which is also a known quantity). In Smash, items spawn randomly, in random locations on the stage, and at only semi-regular intervals. You could be winning handily and suddenly lose the match because a Smash Ball spawned near your opponent, which he got, then an assist trophy spawned while you were getting back into the fight, then a Master Ball spawns while you’re getting juggled by an AT. Smash with items doesn’t always allow the most skilled player to win.

>Even SF at its weakest is stronger than Tekken at its prime.
Hmm. I'm pretty sure the old Tekken games sold more than SF.

I though RvB was well written. Better then stuff on TV at the time. I stopped watching after while but I remember being genuinely interested in the freelancer alpha stuff.

>These are the Yea Forums "pros"

Lmao, what a joke.

Because Samsho is an actual fighting game. Smash is even more of an actual fighting game than MK11.

Just because FighterZ is shitty doesn't mean Infinite isn't shittier. Nice try.

It sounds fun but the fun of the soccer thing comes from the fact that it's all bots playing and the boards are just cosmetic differences. Everyone has a chance to win, it's just fun cheering for your side. A fighting game tournament would mean you need actual players to represent each board, and chances are most boards won't have any decent players at all.

If you want something similar, a Mugen AI tournament could be fun. You'd need to come up with Mugen characters that are decently balanced with good AI, as well as getting characters that represent each board accurately.

>this picture
C___Y

what about BBTAG?

thats the fucking brainlet response I expected.

I love how the meme still holds true.

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its absolutely a way better game.

Yeah those most recent interviews I.E. the last two that just came out focusing on Versus
>noisypixel.net/cygames-granblue-fantasy-versus-interview/
>nukethefridge.com/127272-2/
Has some worrying, but confusing shit. What's already setting redflags is the most prominent thing they said they took from the online beta was some people couldn't be able to do skybound arts right. It's phrased differently in the second interview, but I felt there was a lot more obvious shit people were inputting overall then some dumbasses that can't do a qcf twice.

Secondly was the if you want a difficult hardcore game play GG. And I really hope that's not their shield to deflect criticism on added depth. Because their's keeping your game simple by not adding complex shit like Roman cancels, but then their's streamlining your game for brainlets when you don't even let me do a L>M>H combo without it turning into the same autocombo as mashing L.

Granblue Versus has a lot potential that is fixable within the game's context without tearing out inside and out. But I just hope they don't turn this shit into SFV Anime edition.

>board wars

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can't count

They literally said they are designing the game for mobage players who never touched a controller.