Why does Nintendo get a free pass for having dogshit hardware that costs almost as much as the competition?

No one's comparing dick sizes about consoles, we're talking about why Nintendo drags its ass a full generation behind everyone else and gets away with it. Go away, no one cares about PC.

Because they are actually giving you a console instead of a worse pc

first post said it. more good games than the competition. that's it. there is no more to this topic. end of thread.

There's more to it than that and you wouldn't know, again, fuck off.

Meaning?

Nintendo consoles are just worse versions of a Playstation every gen.

It’s been there design philosophy since the NES. They could’ve made the GameBoy more powerful but didn’t. They could’ve made the Wii more powerful but didn’t. It’s a cancer or a genius move depending on who you ask

there isn't. you're just a pathetic loser making pointless threads for attention. fuck off back to r*ddit.

Go back to r/master race you pathetic faggot, no one mentioned PC and you have no business in this thread. Fuck off.

lmao are you fucking stupid? i never mentioned pc. i just said nintendo can afford to not make more powerful hardware because they consistently have the best games out of every console company. that's it. end of thread, now shut the fuck up and kys summerfag.

Because the only nintenkiddies are consumers that are completely retarded and will buy into anything that says nintendo, all while praising shoddy outdated graphics and technology just because it has their flagship franchises
t. former hardcore nintendo fan, stopped that shit with the wii

No it wasn't, the gameboy was powerful enough.
snes, gamecube and 64 pushed the limits
Nintendo used to be the ones with the hardware, it wasn't until wii where they realized that they couldn't only rely on games to sell a system and started going ham on major gimmicks being the selling point at the cost of hardware

>because they consistently have the best games out of every console company.
But they don't.

They make a Breath of the Wild once every 5-7 years and their fans defend them to death online until the next big game. They put out plenty of shit.

Because Nintendo's hardware are the only one who delivers games

What?

Playstation always has the best Japanese games, aka the only games that matter. Nintendo's 1st party can't hold a candle to dozens of great Japanese games every year on Playstation.

sorry, no. nintendo only makes good games. you're fucking delusional and a fucking retard.

>nintendo only makes good games
user I like Nintendo and this sounds like you are trolling. Nintendo has made plenty of shit games, just like many other devs.

You are dumb and should feel dumb
>Yokoi: The technology was there to do color. But I wanted us to do black and white anyway.
nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/gunpei_yokoi_discusses_the_struggle_to_make_the_game_boy_in_one_of_his_last_interviews

Paper Mario Sticker Star

Defend it, go ahead.

it's fun. played it before bed every night for a couple of weeks to relax.

because its portable?

Overprinting games is really just a Sony thing to try to push sales numbers. Coming out of the movie industry, they were used to advertisement through dick measuring competitons, where various studios would massively overprint, flood third party sellers with massive amounts of product at a bulk discount, and then brag about how big their sales numbers were rather than worry about profit. Sega did the exact same thing as Nintendo, where they printed only to match demand instead of flooding the market and forcing stores to put their games on firesale because they are running out of physical shelf space to put the dozens of spare copies of any given AAA game.

And while the Sony strategy looks good during eras like the PS2 where there is enough demand that your audience will eat literally anything you throw at them (Jak 2, for example, sold 1.5 million copies in the US under this strategy), it also has serious issues, such as putting Sony deep underwater when they flooded the market with PS3 accessories like the Move and the Eye, only for no one to actually eat the bait.

Kill yourself and remove your shit taste from existence you fucking drone

They sell it as a home console you can take on the go, not a handheld you can plug into your tv

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Playstation line hasn't had a Katamari Damacy since katamari damacy. You fondly remember games like patapon and ico but you fail to realize that they haven't been around in well over a decade.

What does it matter?
I just want to play video games, why would you limit yourself to only one platform?

have sex instead of cucking for sony

>They sell it as a home console you can take on the go, not a handheld you can plug into your tv
mr advertiser said im only allowed to do one thing and not the other, so i guess id better not have any ideas

Must be awful not being an idort. Stockholm syndrome is no joke bros.

Because Nintendo don’t have a grip on the casual sports games/AAA game audience in terms of culture, so they can’t afford to sell consoles at a loss.

Those people will never move to nintendo.

>They sell it as a home console you can take on the go, not a handheld you can plug into your tv
point still stands though. its a worse home console so you have the ability to make it portable. people know this before they buy one

This. Something really changed about Sony some time during the PS3 era

>idort
checks out

>where they printed only to match demand
Except they don't. They underprint to create artificial scarcity. They did it with the Wii, they did it with Amiibo, they did it with the Switch, they did it with the NES and SNES mini. They're scheming jews, not Mr Rogers.

I don't know, I pretty much only played handhelds since 2008. Are the PS4 and Xbox One good or are they bad like the PS3 or the first two Xbox?

>tricks everyone into thinking Nintendo products are worth more than their competitors.
>tricks them!

I bet you think 'Nintendo Bonus' is real too.

Are you talking about the 3DS vs Vita here?
The Vita failed because Sony tried to sell it to the home console crowd, like every other "look at my specs!" handheld.

Because Nintendo makes my mouth into the big mouth. Holy shit bros they have a crappy copy of ass creed but with a zelda skin can you believe it? Holy shit bros a babby game with moderately large empty worlds but its got mario in it!! Omg guys, inferior ports of third party software that also cost more!!! B-but its "portable" despite being absolutely fucking huge and having terriblr battery life!!!

Do you honestly believe Wind Waker for the Gamecube is worth $30 in 2019?

When games like GTA San Andreas, Jak & Daxter and Metal Gear Solid 3 for the PS2 all sell for $5 or less? Nintendo games aren't "just better and higher quality", their jew sales tactics just ensure high prices forever.

>and continue to sell extremely well is a testament to the brilliance of their first party exclusives.
The fans are completely delusional though. I mean I love Smash and Mario Kart, and Zelda, but outside of that there's nothing else, yet the fans eat anything else up on the platform regardless if it's a downgrade.

N64 and GameCube were both gimped to combat piracy.

where the fuck can you buy a fresh retail copy of any gamecube game today wtf

>Smash and Mario Kart, and Zelda, but outside of that there's nothing else
*I don't want to look for anything else

Also no self respecting person with a brain sticks with only one platform to video game on.

The difference is that wind waker has yet to be replaced by an objectively superior sequel that does the exact same shit but better.

I guess technically Jak also stands alone in that matter, but Jak is also a medium-high quality 3d minigame collectathon that is eminently skippable.

only a complete blithering retard would buy more than one console.

And what else is there?
Sony killed their portable
The 3DS isn’t HD
Even the lightest surface computer is twice the size and weight of the switch so what other alternatives do you have?

Care to explain?
The overlap between my PC and PS4 is annoying, but there's certain things that I can't get on PC compared to PS4, and vice versa.

>not buying nintendo on release at full price, and going back at the end of the generation to buy used sony and microsoft consoles for 50$ each with all of their "high quality AAA exclusives" in the 5$ bargain bin at buy one get two free

This
You can find new sealed copies of GTA SA PS2 to this day
Wind waker is infinitely harder to find if at all

>The difference is that wind waker has yet to be replaced by an objectively superior sequel that does the exact same shit but better.
No idiot. No, just no.

EVERY 1st party Nintendo game on Gamecube is ludicrously priced.

PC isnt a console

thats because theyre fucking antiques at this point, mate
most gamecube games have reached classic status until now and especially since the console bombed back then theres not a whole lot of copies going around. the things dont get produced anymore. what did you think was gonna happen, that the price drops?

Used idiot, used. And it doesn't matter, the retail price carries over into the used market because their artificial value jewery works that way.

Not an excuse for being shit, idiot

>Do you honestly believe Wind Waker for the Gamecube is worth $30 in 2019?

Nintendo are NOT selling Wind Waker for the Gamecube for $30 in 2019. If that's the price the game is going for on the second hand market, I guess that speaks volumes about the game's quality and appeal.

You can find games like LoTR:RoTK for about 10$ nowadays even after theyve been out of print for a million years with no hopes of ever being available on an online download.

well thats the fucking difference obviously
you can still buy fresh SA copies on amazon. unused. there are no more unused versions on WW. people bought them all and most of those people wanna keep it. of course its gonna be more expensive.

not playing a video game won't change the quality of your life. one console is more than enough to provide entertainment so buying more is a waste of money. ideally you should just play on pc.

this is acceptable but again you should really just be playing on pc.

A dick size contest just doesn't make any sense for them, it just increases the risk for little reward. Literally what's the point of having three consoles with roughly the same specs anyway? From a consumer's perspective, you could most likely play the same multiplat and the exclusives are even more spread out than to begin with. From the manufacturer's perspective, they just enter a competition where they have to get as many exclsuvies (read: reasons to buy their console) as possible. In other words, they'd enter a bidding contest. Other than those games, the biggest differences would be the controller and online play.

>thats because theyre fucking antiques at this point, mate
They're as old as the PS2 you retarded drone

and if there wasnt a surplus of fresh ps2 games they would be antiques as well
but there is, hence nobody pays well for them
its not that hard a concept to grasp mate, supply and demand

22mil sales vs 150mil

Explain 3DS games being ludicrously priced, or Switch ones or Wii ones. First party of course.

Stop saying mate you retarded chav.

It's not supply and demand, it's artificial supply and demand because jap jews want money.

So what? I never have trouble finding a copy of Wind Waker.

>, I guess that speaks volumes about the game's quality and appeal.
No, it speaks to retarded drones.

GTA SA sold 17mil on PS2 alone and you wonder why you can still find sealed copies of it.

>artificial supply and demand
retail stores were still receiving fresh shipments of the PS2 game GTA: The Trilogy well into 2016. That's not sane levels of supply.

fuck are you talking about? you order a fresh mario kart wii copy from nintendo on amazon for 20 bucks
a fresh san andreas copy is 40 bucks
its always about supply and demand. the prices differ with those variables

Because there is room in the market for an underpowered console. PS2 sold up until like 2013.

>artificial supply and demand
what the FUCK is that even supposed to mean. when the console discontinues, nintendo just doesnt manufacture copies for those consoles anymore. if people still want to buy the game, the price will naturally go up

>GTA SA sold
*sony printed

It is estimated that 6 million copies of GTA:SA were "sold" (to third party retailers) between 2008 and 2013. This is the period between the release dates of GTA4 and GTA5.

Unlike my dusty PS4 and unopened Xbox, I actually play my Switch. Fuck, what was the last game I bought for my PS4? I can't even remember, but it wasn't last year. I was considering buying KH3, but I couldn't be bothered.

>Lack of choices isn’t a excuse
Fucking point me to another portable that hasn’t been discontinued

Either you are lying or Take Two is

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Oh look, another jealous child is upset because of Nintendo's success and can't understand the appeal of the Switch.

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look at the very next sentence on the wikipedia article this quote is ripped from

If Nintendo wanted to make their hardware as powerful as the Xbox One and PS4, then:
1) They'd be more actively competing with Sony and Microsoft, whereas they currently enjoy a more niche position which means owners of one console will be more likely to still purchase Switch.
2) They'd be forced to sell their hardware at a loss (the Switch is currently sold for profit), just like Sony and Microsoft do. If the console fails to succeed then the losses would be far more dangerous for a company like Nintendo.

Nintendo doesn't see it as being worth the risk to create a traditional console.
They might test the waters with Switch Pro, but still wouldn't be anything near what Sony and Microsoft can offer.

>for a company like nintendo
nintendo literally could not go broke, no matter how hard they tried

It's just economy. GC sales were bad, so there aren't many games. Yet they're still quite popular, so there is a demand but little supply. On top of that consumers collectively decided that Nintendo games don't fall in price that drastically for whatever reason. If you ask me, it's probably because they're more likely to be collectors while stuff like GTA etc that's mainly played by dudebros is played through once, maybe a little more and loses all of its value. They sell it for the next game and thus supply the market with more and more copies, reducing the price.

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>using spear as Hero
>not using axes on Yangus

the true mystery itt

Do you even understand how business works?

>It's just economy. GC sales were bad, so there aren't many games
Explain Switch game prices, explain 3DS game prices.

>When games like GTA San Andreas, Jak & Daxter and Metal Gear Solid 3 for the PS2 all sell for $5 or less?
If you're getting cheap PS2 games chances are they're pirated/bootlegs.
I know because most PS2 games I buy are from the ghettos, I even get them for fractions of a dollar due to the conversion rates

>On top of that consumers collectively decided that Nintendo games don't fall in price that drastically for whatever reason
Really nigger?

Really?

It has nothing to do with Nintendo's recorded jewish sales tactics? One day for no reason at all Hitler was elected?

>Explain Switch game prices, explain 3DS game prices.

Newsflash; cartridges cost more - lot more - than discs.

From me they don't at least, haven't bought a nintendo console since the wii because of this.
I just emulate any game worth a damn on my 2k machine, like botw and bing bing

Literally keep reading you mongrel. And I doubt many Switch or 3DS games really rose in price since release. Whereas some niche and popular GameCube games like Fire Emblem, Skies of Arcadia or Paper Mario just shot up.

Just port DQ games to Switch
Fuck 3DS

It's not a nintendo thing. Look at sega prices as well. Once again, sony and microsoft just follow a different market strategy of flooding the market with games and bragging about sales numbers instead of worrying about operating profit.

>Newsflash; cartridges cost more - lot more - than discs
No, they don't. Not anymore. Nintendo just charges developers absurd prices for them.

>No one's comparing dick sizes about consoles
>Why is nintendo's dick smaller than ours?

Or could it be maybe a mix of both? I highly doubt cardridges will ever be as cheap as disks given their low complexity.

>No, they don't. Not anymore.

Source?

Because there's no point creating yet another truncated PC in a market that already has 2 strong contenders when they can just have the market for slightly weaker gimmick/portable console to themselves.
Why the fuck does that even need to be spelled out for you, are you retarded?

Kinda make sense and becomes even more logical when you realise that ninty likes to try new shit too much, if they were to create a console JUST like the PS4 and Xbone they'd somehow make a controller or gimmick that's so ass to code for AAA will still not support the console, and most what consolefags want is the new shooter of the season and the new sports game of the year
Like or hate the nintendies they're all what ninty has left, nostalga and loyal customers as all the modern day kids and the like just buy PS4s and Xbones for CoD and FIFA

I can't take my PS4 to the beach. Why is this acceptable in 2019? Shit hardware from Sony ammarite?

Why is it so hard for you to accept beneath the family friendly exterior Nintendo are the most bloodthirsty jews in gaming?

>Like or hate the nintendies they're all what ninty has left, nostalga and loyal customers

Wii U sold 11 million in 5 years. Switch outsold it in 10 MONTHS. It has nothing to do with 'fanboys'. What don't you understand?

Why are you playing your switch at the beach? Shouldn't you be playing in the sea or with the sand? What's wrong with you?

Why are you so obsessed with a video game company?

>playing with sand like some faggot

>Why are you so obsessed with a video game company?

Oh the ironing.

You have a point with the minis but wasn't there a component shortage early on in the Switch's life? I remember some such about Apple and Nintendo having to compete for components.

>It has nothing to do with 'fanboys'. What don't you understand?
Posts like and

Why are you so upset? They're a company that yearns for profit, just like any other. If you honestly try to argue that Nintendo is the single most greedy company in gaming, then you must be pretty delusional. And if you now think that I'm saying Nintendo is less jewish than the others, then you must be pretty biased too. Fucking everyone tries to get the best slices of the cake and they try anything in their power to get them. Microtransactions, loot boxes, unfinished games, day 1 dlc, early access, etc. The list goes on and on when it comes to shitty practices the industry is coming up with to tap on simple desires.

do you know how much money nintendo has? every single franchise is worth billions. they could spend all their working time burning money and they would still be in business a couple decades

Its honestly insane how jealous with rage the kids on Yea Forums get. No wonder they're stabbing girls who diss them.

Kill yourself retard

Nonsense. Every titan is sinkable and unlike MS or Sony Nintendo doesn't have other divisions to prop them up. If the Switch had been a bust like the Wii U I don't know if Nintendo would have remained in the hardware space.

You're fucking delusional, Nintendo is the most spiteful company in the business. Worse than EA. Go read up on them.

switch uses way more advanced technology than the other consoles desu. when will they step it up and give me portable functionality?

>Sony killed their handheld
You mean Vita?

Thats not how business works. Nintendo are not a massive conglomerate with multiple revenue arms like Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo are pretty small by comparison - only a few thousand employees worldwide. They make video games and thats it. They cannot offset the financial loss from another line of business.

Selling a expensive hardware at an affordable price will cause a LOSS. A LOSS hits profit margins. Lower profit margins upsets investors which affects the financial stability of the entire organisation.

Nintendo are not your friend. They're not here to provide you with a $2000 gaming rig for $300.

>switch uses way more advanced technology
No it doesn't. What the fuck are you talking about? It uses a mobile phone GPU idiot.

and mobile processors are way more fucking advanced than what the redundant shitboxes from sony and microsoft offer.
like objectively.

The hardware is shit but the games are good. Other consoles have good hardware but shit games.

Oh, you're retarded. Ok. Carry on.

Because it's the software that sells the console and it's gameplay that sells a game, not graphics. Stop being a graphics-whore, especially if you're a consoletard it's just plain stupid.

>Other consoles have good hardware but shit games.
Ok nintendie

There's no denying Nintendo first party is superior to their competitors'. The big difference is third party support, since new games for consoles don't come out for Nintendo products at the same time as for others, so they stay at least one gen behind everyone else on ports unless it's an indie game or something.

The 3DS did not cost as much as the competition though. Not did the Wii, nor did the WiiU.

The switch currently does sure but that's because the "competition" is 5+ years old and has had numerous price cuts

no you're right, big overheating shitboxes with 2009 hardware are more impressive lmao.

You're so very persuasive and showed me how throttling supply do extend demand and profiting off of 3rd party software sales by exploiting your unique cardridges is way worse than locking characters behind lootboxes, shutting down studios that don't meet some random shareholders' expectations and forcing those same studios to use a buggy mess of an engine while giving them little support. Yes, I can see the light.

nintendo defense force is here to refute facts i see.

Yea Forums - console wars

3ds games were always very fairly price imo. that's why i bought so many of them back when

>locking characters behind lootboxes, shutting down studios that don't meet some random shareholders' expectations and forcing those same studios to use a buggy mess of an engine while giving them little support.
Nintendo does all of this though

give examples please

>Nintendo makes hardware of better or equal capability than rivals.
>Begins to receive third party parity.
>Fuck-all changes because the FIFA/Madden/CoD crowd are handcuffed to their current platforms by yearly subscriptions.

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Why doesnt nintendo want the Call of Duty audience, anyway? They seem so very reliable and dependable.

Nintendo is the only company that is selling there hardware at a net gain,
PS and Xbox sells at a los and need to make cash back selling overpriced walking simulators as they are cheper to make.

how do people justify buying a product that not even the developers consider to be have a value worth price of production? would they buy a literal shit for pennies on the pound if they were confident it was being sold at less than it cost to make?

You mean nogames. They just spend a shit ton on ads. Even theatres play switch game commercials now.

They don't get a 'free pass'. People are openly critical of them all the time. It still doesn't mean the Switch isn't a great system with a great library of games. It simply offers people somthing different from the other systems on the market.

You really have to question your infantile jealousy instead. Its fucking pathetic kiddo.

>Even theatres play switch game commercials now.
you say this as if it is something new. dead space 3's advertisement campaign began in summer of 2012.

*No games I like, therefore, they're irrelevant and do not exist

it does

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because people buy the Switch because of the graphics and hardware and not because of the portability- it's main selling point- right?
Why are snoyggers so retarded, not everyone wants an inferior PC

imagine making jealousy threads like this every day just because you're afraid Sony are going to lose their hold on the market for being complacent while also only deciding to appeal on the fucking SJW crowd.
The Switch outsold the PS4 in it's home country with it only being on the market for 2 years, for a "no games kiddy tablet" to beat the PS4 in sales it's pretty embarrassing

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Does Japan even count as the PS4's home country any more, honestly? They've done everything they possibly can to betray their japanese playerbase in favor of US sales.

>and not because of the portability- it's main selling point- right?
No one has ever played a Switch in public. Ever. I dare you to find pictures of this that aren't a video game conference or Nintendo event.

You're right, California should be seen as their home now considering that's where all their dumbass decisions are being made. Imagine censoring and catering more to kiddies than Nintendo of all companies, what the fuck are Sony doing?
Have you never gone outside user? Do you not travel? Every time I go to the airport or train station there's people playing on Switches.

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i bought it because of smash and mario kart. i dont give a fuck about portability.

Good games you can't get on other platforms.
Look at fortnite, the kiddies lap that shit up and it looks like ass. Graphics and technically impressive stuff don't cut it any more.

>Have you never gone outside user? Do you not travel? Every time I go to the airport or train station there's people playing on Switches.
Those are footballers paid money to play the switch in public moron

you're in the minority then because the portability aspect and the actual great marketing is what led the Switch to outsell its predecessor in little under a year

>provide evidence that people play their switches outside
>"N-No way, they're definitely paid actors! No one can POSSIBLY play a portable console outside! Everyone is just as insecure with themselves and what they enjoy as me, r-right?"
of course my dude

Those are literally footballers moron, they're paid to promote shit

Then you wouldn't mind grabbing the advert these gents are in to promote the Switch then would you?

because they support their consoles with exclusives way more then the other two main consoles. Launch year we got BOTW, Mario Odyssey, Spla2n, FE Warriors, Xeno2, ARMS, Mario Rabbids. 2018 wasnt as good but had Kirby, some wii u ports, Mario Tennis, Pkmn Lets Go, Mario Party and Smash. And this year we have Yoshi, Mario Maker, MUA3, FE3H, Astral Chain, Dragon Quest XI S, Link's Awakening, Daemon X Machina, Luigi's Mansion 3, Pkmn SwSh, Panzer Dragoon Remake and Mario Sonic Olympics 2020.

While support from third parties is slowly ramping up (and if the Pro happens it will def increase more), the first party titles will always outshine the competition

Kiddies are why people buy PS4s and Xbones, because CoD and FIFA is all what they eat up. Those types of games never make their way to a ninty platform.

because compared to the competition, they actually make games

this. This year's E3 said it all, while every other company were more interested in putting the focus on people and cinematic trailers Nintendo actually showed off games and showed off fucking gameplay.

The ad is the picture. They get paid to play the switch then tweet the picture.

they arent really.
they all used to be on the 360 and now they're on the ps4. they have no proper loyalty, they just play on the big popular system of the moment.

>Mario
>Mario
>Mario
>Zelda
>Mario
>Mario
>Mario
>Fire Emblem
woooooooow

Why do you have loyalty to a company?

I dont. Yet I buy Nintendo stuff because they offer unique things others dont.
Its exactly the reason why I dont bother with anything but PC and Nintendo these days.

so what you're saying is you concede because you have no proof of your claims. Alright.
pretending to be retarded is still being retarded senpai

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people may say whatever the fuck they want to say about nintendo, bitch about nintendo, get angry with them or shitpost, but COME THE FUCK ON. its getting to that point where if you really just want to play an actual video game, nintendo WILL become the only source

I tell you know my brothers and sisters and half brothers and half sisters, Nintendo will be the only company to stand in the coming years then SEGA will rise from its ashes to once again do battle with them

They based their business model on Disney’s if I’m remembering correctly. Which is why there are rarely any price drops

I pity your shit taste

This E3 was so weird for me. It's like every other company is just interested in money now. On PC I'm stuck playing fucking Quake and just pirating everything because there's nothing worth buying

They were born because of the Yakuza so fucking duh

>so what you're saying is you concede because you have no proof of your claims
You really think a bunch of grown ass 30 year old thot fucking footballers willingly chose to sit there with switch's? They all just decided to get one? Really retard?

pretty damn ironic lmao

t.

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Almost as if ninty wanted to be the only games console company after the crash because they wanted to make sure all the games produced were of GOOD QUALTY and companies like Sega, Sony and Microsoft only began joining the race to make game consoles outta spite.

What the fuck are you talking about? There are regular people who play the switch in public. Go outside you fucking autist.

Can OP explain how to make a pS4 in hand held format? I'd love to hear.

Nice proof nintendie

>OP is still going after that Dragon Quest thread last night
Holy shit nigger it's been like 16 hours get some sleep

It's called a Vita

There's more than one person on Yea Forums who isn't a nintendie

To be fair, the PS4's hardware was originally intended for tablets. Its extremely underpowered and much lower performance compared to a typical Gaming PC than fanboys generally want to admit.

>posts zero proof that every single adult who plays the switch in public is a footballer
>expects proof that every adult who plays switch in public ISNT a footballer
Is that you Quentin? Has the king autist returned?

Cringe

>TL;DR
fanbois

The vita can literally stream PS4 games from your home console over wifi to anywhere in the world.

>when you get so absolutely BTFO you just can't let it go
The absolute state of sonytards

>TL;DR
>Good games
tldr: fanbase of brain damaged autists

neither of which are particularly graphically intensive. I do agree that Nintendo hardware is expensive for what you get, but they're the only way you can play Nintendo games, so I'll buy it.
If you mention emulation, straight up kill yourself. I have the money to buy games no problem and i'm not waiting months for the games to finally be playable.

YEAh but ads also have fucking details attached, or are shown in magazines or other publications
No one makes an ad, and then just throws it on the Internet in imgur. That’s literally not how advertising works unless it’s some viral campaign

>DQXI
>being either Mario, Zelda or Fire Emblem
Retard

>YEAh but ads also have fucking details attached, or are shown in magazines or other publications
No idiot.

Not in 2019. It's all about ads that don't look like ads.

But third party games on other platforms greatly outnumber nintendo games in quantity and quality.

>comparing 3DS to PS2

>neither of which are particularly graphically intensive
Fair point especially when FIFA made their way to fucking PHONES, the real problem is control schemes on ninty consoles being hard to code for since they're innovating and trying new shit all the time that coders don't want to spend years de-ciphering.
I have a nintendo switch myself.

There's a couple of issues with that logic, namely that all of those games had hd rerelease that are currently available on modern consoles or PC, with the exception being mgs3. Wind waker has the Wii u hd remaster but who wants to have a Wii u just for that, considering all other major Wii u titles got ports to the switch. So your options are a GC for $20 and $30 ww or a $100 or so Wii u with wwhd for $30 or bundled in. Makes sense.

just quantity

Most of them aren't exclusive, though. If you only have enough allowance money to buy one system, then that's relevant, but if I buy a PS4, I'm getting almost every good game on the Xbox as well, and the value of that vs. the Switch shifts. Same if I already have a decent PC.

>The real problem is control schemes on ninty consoles being hard to code for since they're innovating and trying new shit all the time that coders don't want to spend years de-ciphering.

Outside of the N64 and Wii, their control schemes have been pretty standard. Wii U pad was just a wide controller with the stick moved around.

>A weaker device than the switch
???
Tablet form factor would literally melt with even the ps4s specs.

Nintendo Bonus and Nintendo tax are absolutely real. The bonus isn't Nintendo's fault though, it's just the result of game journos all being boomers who loved NES and SNES when they were kids and a combination of nostalgia and Stockholm syndrome causes them to go gaga for Nintendo games

in case there are people who think this is real, it's switched. Fucking sony fags

Nintendo bonus is bullshit and you damn well know it. So is the "tax". If either were true games like Kirby would get 100s and also be sold for 70 dollars on launch . Inb4
>Hue hue hue Kirby games should score 40 without Le bonus!

wait, are snoyfags actually that desperate to fake a pic?
What the fuck is wrong with them, they seem legitimately mentally ill at this point.

>they seem
they suffer from stockholm syndrome

The switch unironically is the first console with a normal control scheme but the tactile rumble features and shit are not being coded for because they're a pain in the ass for devs, the only ones who actually used this shit are the senran devs.

Yes? They have been like this since 2006.

You legitimately arent older than 18, are you if you truly think the switch is the first

>namely that all of those games had hd rerelease
They've been that price since at least 2006, well before that.
>So your options are a GC for $20 and $30 ww
Because Nintendo's jew tactics. Not because WW is rare or anything, it's not. It sold millions.
>Makes sense.
No it doesn't you 12 year old.

I meant first since the era of the Wii brought in whacky control schemes
The NES and SNES had some normal controllers and so did the gamecube

>A weaker device than the switch
And 1/3 the price with a better screen, battery life and form factor.

That was because they knew battery life would give them the advantage, which it did.

And no video games.

>And 1/3 the price
If you go used, and the "better" screen only on old models if you pray that you get one without burn in.
And it's still a smaller screen.

Why are you retards still trying to shill the fucking vita?

If only it had first/second party support to keep it alive long enough to attract third party support beyond anime dance/rhythm games

I expected at least a tiny amount of dignity from snoyfags, not the most pathetic fanbase Yea Forums has ever seen.

But they are still trying to shill the vita in 2019, so I guess they really have no standards.

>if a store attempts to do it they get blacklisted.
False.

>Why does Nintendo get a free pass for having dogshit hardware that costs almost as much as the competition?

youtu.be/REaUzHef9h4?t=2m52s

Software makes the system seller

GTA San Andreas has had 3 rereleases on the ps2 alone, launch date, players choice, then in the Gta multipack collection the rockstar still sells to this very day, and the same goes for MGS3 and Jak games, all had a players choice run and a box set run. No wonder why the games are worth $3, cause there's been so many printings. Meanwhile you have two printings of wind waker for the worse selling console in that generation, that still has relevance to this day cause there's only one more official way to play it, and it's a different version of the game. It's just fucking logic mate.
Literally all of those games have 3 printings on the ps2, one printing on the PS3, and then one more on the PS4 except mgs3.

Because no one cares about hardware so long as the games run well enough and are fun.
This has always been true; only AAA devs are trying to gaslight everyone into caring about photo-realism in games, and it's worked on the mainstream audience such that Sony and Microsoft are in an arms-race to the bottom to pump out better specs every generation with little return on the actual quality of games in each generation.
All because it helps AAA companies justify shitty business practices as well as create a reliable fake-metric of quality to sell games on, since mainstream audiences can't really tell a fun looking game from a boring one but CAN tell whether one game looks more realistic than another

Yeah those posters can't understand that

>give examples please

As you can see this user has not responded and thus lost the argument

True
I don't even know of any non-mobile games Nintendo puts out that use paid lootboxes. I guess Fortnite and Warframe are on Switch and use lootboxes?

the failure of the Vita has really proven that most of the internet is fucking retarded and should never be listened to.
It was literally the device the internet dreamed off, read the comments and reactions around it and people treated it like the second coming of christ.
>250 dollars is sooo cheap!
Literally came up all the time.

At the same time, the internet reacted VERY negatively to the 3ds announcement, calling it DOA compared to the vita.
How the power difference would make it impossible for the 3ds to compete.

The vita should have humbled these fucking retards, but they still spout the same objectively wrong bullshit now and act all butthurt when reality doesn't follow their delusions.

Walmart already sells plenty of first party Nintendo games at $50. I definitely remember seeing the new Yoshi at that price only a month or two after launch.

It's literally a comparison video from a guy name named "ninten2tv"

youtube.com/watch?v=sqAuS38Rlj8

holy shit you faggots are pathetic turning everything into console faggotry.

I still don't understand why Sony dropped support for the Vita so quickly.
I honestly don't get it

Wind Waker sold millions, you can't compare anything to GTA. GTA is a freak of nature.

They all need to be euthanized.

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Because man children

>holy shit you faggots are pathetic turning everything into console faggotry.
>he says in a thread about consolewar faggotry
Why did you only complain once people talked negatively about sonyfags?
because this thread is full of similar comments about Nintendo and that didn't seem to bother you.

>Walmart already sells plenty of first party Nintendo games at $50
Wow a whole $10 cheaper despite no one wanting it!

>Wow a whole $10 cheaper despite no one wanting it!
Are you actually this delusional to pretend those games don't sell?

>Spread disinformation
>"WOW XFAGS ARE SO PATHETIC!"
>Get corrected
>"BUT WHY DIDNT YOU SAY ANYTHING MEAN ABOUT YFAGS??"
Unironically leave Yea Forums

because he was only correcting dumb faggots who are trying to lie and say the downgraded 3ds port is the ps2 version

It's well known even if a nintendo game flops they refuse to sell it for less than $40

There are no other handhelds.

>nintendo doesn't let retailers pricedrop
>>they do though
>no one wants it lol
cope harder

You literally said
>holy shit you faggots are pathetic turning everything into console faggotry.
but only to complain if it goes against sony.
That's what I was referring to, and your excuse didn't change that.

$10 isn't a price drop.

$25+ is a price drop.

GTA is normie shit, that's why it sells so well.
It resembles real life enough that it basically just becomes a power fantasy

They've mostly made the same type of game for a long time. It's like they're desperate to go the extra mile but they're constantly being held back from making the best game they can despite being such good developers. Splatoon and its sequel could have been timeless classics, but there was such little content.

PS2 had VPU0/1 which were massive market leads over even its competition, keeping it relevant and competitive with the wii.

that wasn't me you replied to and im not a sonyfag or a nintenigger, i just like dragon quest and i've played both versions and i know damn well the 3ds version is visually downgraded.

i googled "DQ8 3ds vs PS2" and i found the source in literally 2 seconds. it's hilarious how you are crying about sonyfags being liars when you're getting butthurt about actually lying and being called out about it.

consumers can buy 32gb micro sd cards for 8 dollars, the technology being used in switch/3ds cartridges isn't some rare, illusive rare earth metal process. It's not as cheap as optical media for a manufacturers price, but it sure as shit is cheap.

the ps2 vus weren't that impressive, Xbox SIMD support was good enough to match VU0

most games didn't even use VU0 there are developer conferences where Sony whine about it

>Xbox SIMD support was good enough to match VU0
not quite, having basically no bandwidth limitation made it a more valuable resource for almost any task. There's a reason ps2 and wii versions of multiplats exist.

8$ for a 32gb is mega fucking expensive if you compare it to discs which are less than 50 cents.
and thats about as much as publishers charge switch users more when they want to offload production costs onto them. about 10$.

if the switch were a tv only console then you'd have a point but it's not

lexico.com/en/definition/price
lexico.com/en/definition/drop

>8$ for a 32gb is mega fucking expensive
consumer prices aren't manufacturers prices.

He still wouldn't since it still has games that people want to play.
Only normies care about grafixx. So long as it has fun games and those games run well enough, then it doesnt matter what the hardware is.

>basically no bandwidth limitation
yeah if you're getting nothing but cache hits. If your VU0 program and its working set don't each fit into a 4k footprint then your performance is going to be flaming garbage.
>There's a reason ps2 and wii versions of multiplats exist.
the reason is that the gamecube was made redundant and the xbox was dropped like a rock when the 360 came out. literally every already owned a ps2, including third worlders, that's why it continued to get support

games are more fun when they don't run like donkey shit desu, I don't need 4k raytrace grafixx but I do want a stable framerate and a clear picture

$10 off isn't a price drop, CoD sells for $50 day 1 moron

>then your performance is going to be flaming garbage.
that's the basics of optimization. Hence why so many developers attested to how useful they were and why so many were able to get so much out of the PS2.
>the xbox was dropped like a rock when the 360 came out
Interestingly, that's because of Nvidia. Microsoft wanted to release a smaller version of the console and support it for a few more years.

You can get similar results much more easily by just using the Xbox's SSE instructions. The PS2 demands a lot for good performance and gives you comparatively little.
>Hence why so many developers attested to how useful they were
As I said most games didn't even bother using VU0. Too much hard work.

I heard that Nvidia were screwing Microsoft over with the terms of their contract, and that they wanted to get out of a bad deal quickly. Dunno how true that is.

I'll be sure to play them on the other handheld in the market right now.

>You can get similar results much more easily by just using the Xbox's SSE instructions.
unfortunately not the case, even late xbox games like san andreas get some seriously bad framerate drops with transparency effects. PS2 powered through games like silent hill 2 and gta sa without any comparable issues.
>As I said most games didn't even bother using VU0.
How many is "most?"

Yeah, but games designed for a system are (usually) built to run on that system's specs well.
Ports may have iffy performance but games that release first for a given system run fine.

Unfortunately they make games I want to play, I wouldn't mind them going software only desu

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Transparency is a completely different issue to SIMD. Transparency is a fillrate issue. The PS2 definitely had a fillrate advantage but once again it was hard to actually utilize since you'd constantly be DMAing textures in and out of VRAM since it's so small. It's difficult to keep up that level of activity, but I guess you do get better alpha effects for your efforts.

gamepilgrimage.com/sites/default/files/SystemSpecs/PS2/HowFarHaveWeGot.pdf
They don't say exactly how many, but enough that it's irrelevant to most shovelware.

I don't think you know what the words "price drop" mean.

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If you want to be a pedant, then they never do SUBSTANTIAL price drops.

Good enough for you? Choke some more of than Miyamoto cum down you fucking drone.

dial 8

>gamepilgrimage.com/sites/default/files/SystemSpecs/PS2/HowFarHaveWeGot.pdf
oh, it's basic dev conference stuff. Yeah this happens all the time. As of 2003 it looks like most games were not making good use of VU0, shovelware doesn't really matter at all, when playing a library of games you don't go out of your way to play the bad games, do you?
>more than half the games run at 25/30
probably the most interesting part of the presentation was this. Most games today target 30 with drops. The insistence on using VU0 was really interesting, the vector units were the secret sauce for the PS2 and allowed it to be competitive with the xbox which was basically 3 years ahead in terms of performance.

I can't hear you, spit out some of that nintendie cum

You are correct of course. All the crazy physics and graphics effects you see in games like Burnout were possible on the PS2 because they had fast and microprogrammable VUs. The Gamecube could not do that, no matter how hard you tried, because the Gamecube only had paired singles and paired singles were shit. The continued lack of SIMD support in the Wii and Wii U is why those consoles had such a reputation for having slow CPUs.
The Xbox could bruteforce basically anything that wasn't bottlenecked by fillrate (read: heavy alpha and particle effects).