FINAL DAY OF THE RO24 AND THE LAST DAY OF ALL BO1S >best (p) >JyJ (t) >Light (t) >miso/where (z) (there will be a break after the end, then they get all the players out to decide the ro16 groups, which is why it starts 2 hrs earlier today)
TASTOSIS HAVE BEEN SENT TO FIX CHINA SO OUR CAST WILL BE DONE BY A MUMBLY SCOTTISH GIRL AND A BALDIE
BE PREPARED FOR SHIT TO GET BORDERLINE EXPERIMENTAL
>TASTOSIS HAVE BEEN SENT TO FIX CHINA Explain further
William Edwards
Did Winnie the Pooh steal our casters?
Grayson Garcia
iunno, they went to china to cast something
this is the dude who's casting with cadenzie twitter.com/creightonolsen I watched some of his cast with artosis (youtube.com/watch?v=cPlY5clPysg ), he seems okay. Better speaking voice than noregret and less clueless/annoying compared to rapid. No idea how much he knows about BW though, so cadenzie will probably have to do a bit of the heavy lifting, this'll be something to watch
Jose Hernandez
Haven't been able to watch for a couple months, how has this season been so far?
Logan Torres
Who's the baldie? Is commentary going to be muteworthy today?
Jason Morgan
Bretty good actually
Asher Anderson
Pretty much all of the sets have at least one redeeming game in them, with several having multiple good ones. It's an infinite improvement over KSL.
Liam Nelson
>cadenzie >tranny with bad teeth Looks like its a MUTE match
JyJ always looks like he's in "it's all so tiresome" mode.
Christopher Lopez
>typing anything other then gg at the end
BANNED
Parker Johnson
Is Cadenzie a girl or a girl (male)?
Brayden Evans
She's a true lass.
Luis Jones
girl (SCOOOOOOTLAND FOREEEEEVEEEEER)
Juan Roberts
Cadenzie is a male(female) ladder monster that sometimes gets pretty deep in the ASL qualifiers.
Nolan Hill
I cut them slack for that. Even Artosis mixes up unit names and tasteless hasn't gotten names right for years now.
Jayden Gray
I think it's just nerves, he kept calling the starter interview "winner interview" at the start. He's okay though, i don't feel phyiscally pained like I do with rapid
Dominic Campbell
incorrect, cadenzie is a tranny
Jordan Butler
actual girl
William Rodriguez
Lord giraffe reigns.
Anthony Butler
>pretty deep in the ASL qualifiers. i bet larva gets deep into cadenzie
Kevin Hernandez
Did tasteless lose his passion?
Ryder Rogers
Is this dude a protoss zealot? Look at this nigga's head.
Xavier Hernandez
Larva is pure and faithful to Flash
Nathan Jenkins
>Miso hasn't even played for a month and was googling builds
Lmao, I hope he wins
Adam Cruz
Is there a term for trying to talk quietly in a loud voice, or loud in a quiet voice? It seems like this is becoming more and more endemic with almost everyone every year, like there's some fear around just belting it out.
>this guy asks questions, it gets her talking about builds Why would you want to hear MORE of cadenzie's voice? Its like dragging her balls on a cheese grater.
Eli Sanchez
>self-depreciating humor in front of cutie
oof
Robert Lopez
Is he asking her out to prom?
Gabriel Ortiz
I forget what extra tech do you need for valks?
Jacob Cox
so english IS her first language she's just from some retarded talking place
>Lost german qt and options for other remnants of old earth cultures because terrans are now all some form of southern confederate hicks FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
i think he's better known for SC2 cartoons. Not amazingly funny, but maybe a chuckle at a reference to a minutiae of matchups or units
Can a zerg explain to me why I always see mutas get sat over goliaths? you'd never see mutas sat over marines, is it just because goliaths do so little damage?
Charles Perry
I just got here, what the fuck is that voice? Is that a dude pretending to be a girl?
Grayson Collins
she's just scottish
Landon Fisher
That's called a Scottish lass.
Lincoln Gray
Marines with stim have some of the highest dps in the entire game. They also can clump together much more easily than the wonky pathfinding of goliaths. Sitting over a marine means you take a bunch more damage from all his buddies and so its better to just snipe the outliers because of marines shorter range. Goliath range is such that it hardly matters.
Zachary Long
small unit model versus explosive damage
Isaiah Gomez
so the range of goliaths make muta micro basically inconsequential
Oliver Sanders
>sex o'clock You heard the lady.
Jayden Morales
>Tasteless and Artosis warned me about it starting 2 hours earlier >Usual OP warns me about it being 2 hours earlier >Many anons say "2 hours earlier" in last thread >I still forget and only now just tuned in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This is the most in-depth and informative ASL cast in a long while; I like the natural colour commentator vs bank-of-knowledge commentator dynamic these two are exhibiting.
Elijah Brown
This is the only good game so far
Evan Butler
it never made sense to me that mutas were considered small units while a hydralisk is medium
Can the fucking mods please fucking shove these shit threads onto /vg/ where they belong. No one cares about your 20 year old game anymore.
Evan Bell
FUCK YOU GUYS I THINK SCOTTISH GIRLS ARE HOT THEIR ACCENTS MAKE MY PEE-PEE BECOME BIG PEE-PEE
Charles Myers
>literally no micro >sneaky bases to get more gas Is this the purest form of I MAEK MUTA?
Landon Sanders
can you shove yourself up your own ass
two threads a week isn't a general, fag
Easton Torres
I MAEK MUTA I LOSE MUTA
Nolan Bennett
gg
Wyatt Long
MEME QUEENS
Carter Hernandez
LMAO HOLY FUCK MISO BAHAHAHA That was so embarrassing.
Nathaniel Harris
Im sorry you put your money on SC2 blizzard, but BW is jsut better
Cameron Martin
What a fucking sad game
Aiden Sanchez
Mass muta against gols works, but NOT against gols/vessels, irradiate just crushes them. And MisO also got wrong fucking upgrades, you need to stack up as much armor as possible against Gols. Holy hell.
Stop talking about video games, we need more important twitter screencap threads!
Eli Jenkins
I don't think even Miso expected himself to win a single game today.
Daniel White
Its supposed to be a counter to mech play with broodlings, but I have never seen it work successfully. Zerg is getting out meta'd this season with terran mech.
Henry Ward
I have some news for you user...
Jackson Morris
Zergs have just been really retarded in where they implement them. The game needs to practically stalemate for them to work
Luke Cooper
Thanks doc
Jose Gonzalez
I think miso just dethroned Leta as the biggest retard in korea. Even leta going wraith 10 games in a row made sense on some level
I never thought I'd see somebody amove 50 mutas into a meat grinder then leave queens in irradiate till he gg'd
I don't know if your 50+ year old brain can keep up with reality anymore but just in case you haven't noticed most of these threads don't get more than 40 IPs per thread and this shit has been getting posted for months now. That's the literal definition of a general, most threads that get 100+ posts usually get upwards to 50-60 IPs by itself yet this thread stays up at late hours of the night and amounts 300+ posts yet doesn't break 40 IPs most of the time.
This is a /vg/ thread through and through. It's the same people post in the same thread over the same game over and over again. There is no discussion beyond the skill of e-sports fags that are so pass their prime they have children and wives now.
You people need to be put onto /vg/ where you belong because no one born after 1989 gives a shit about this game.
Queens are a good unit they would be great in this situation but they are played so rarely people dont know how to utilize them to their full potential. I think zergs just need more practice with them.
Luke Ortiz
mass queens melt siege tank lines. But the spell costs 150 energy so you have to make them a good 5 minutes in advance for them to have any impact. Knowing what you're doing helps
Adrian Cox
>no one born after 1989 gives a shit about this game. Flash was born in 1992.
Zachary Wilson
Don't forget that he first moved a full group of mutas over that meatgrinder, having them all be wiped out, BEFORE a-moving his 50 mutas
Jonathan Sullivan
This is a Smash speculation thread, there's nothing more on topic on Yea Forums.
>Queens are a good unit they would be great in this situation Yeah right, they get countered by fucking everything in the Terran army and they're such a huge waste of resources you can't afford actual useful Zerg units. Daily reminder SV has irradiate which can kill most Zerg units for only 75 energy
Jace Ward
this autist wishes he was a mod, doing it for free
Robert Richardson
>went to the bathroom man I remember a year ago when artosis had to go to the bathroom halfway a game. reminds you how much of an old man he became
Isaiah Miller
Sure.
Liam Williams
Why are almost all the Stork games so kino?
Benjamin Long
And people who were born in 2001 think Chrono Trigger is the greatest RPG of all time. Who gives a shit, this game is so beyond irrelevancy that the sheer fact that there is threads about it on Yea Forums is hilarious to me.
Lincoln Thompson
>this isn't a pasta Holy shit, you actually typed all this out.
I AM ACCENT RETARDED EITHER WAY VALK IS QT AND YOUR GAY FAGGOT ASS CANT PROVE ME WRONG
Gabriel Myers
>yfw a zealot could potentially be in smash fuck
Justin Morgan
Stork is one of the 6 dragons for a reason.
Easton Stewart
I know your retarded ass can't fathom people making arguments without using strawmans but I'm not one of them.
John Carter
Queens suck 99% of the time and are amazing 1% of the time.
He absolutely should not have gotten queens, he needed defiler tech, zerglings and hydras, not whatever the fuck he did and he did it far too late as well.
Gavin Roberts
valk is german though. She's like a wagnerian valkyrie. I think he was contesting that germans could be qts?
But the valk is definitely the cutest portait in sc remaster
Christopher Perry
Hero tank
David Morales
>Light: I'm gonna end this tank's career
Luke Turner
meeting actual german women kill your dick
Sebastian Edwards
this casters aren't very good. they don't have any energy.
fuck off with your retarded youtube speak. God, I dont know who came up with it. but every fucking retarded youtube video comment is swamped with
>nobody:HURR >me: DURRR no. Its retarded, kill yourself faggot. go back to 9fag
Camden Watson
I disagree, they could definitely become very useful once players play them more and learn to utilize them properly.
Ayden Gonzalez
i maek dropship?
Connor Reyes
JyJ aka Dropship (Shuttle)
Eli Taylor
>ASL started 2 hours earlier than normal wtf
Josiah Adams
jesus stop throwing units. first miso, now jyj
Anthony Lewis
Not him but you're absolutely incorrect. How the hell is a queen doing to do fucking anything against that many goliaths and irradiates?
They can't do shit, and they're expensive units too. JyJ was so deep into goliaths, he should've had defilers earlier + hydraling to recover from his muta failure.
Jason Baker
OH FUCK GODDAMN IT IT WAS EARLY TODAY TELL ME WHAT I MISSED, NIGGERS
No, fuck off. I play the game. You can't make a useless unit useful. RTS games is all about cost effiency, Queens are time-consuming, expensive, hard to micro, gets hard countered by every Terran unit, they have to sit in a corner in the map doing fuck-all. The only time I've seen zerg win with them is when they have ridiculous leads and then they could have won easily anyway > they could definitely become very useful How? You can't decrease the time they require all for a 150 energy spell. Terrans can also build turrets everywhere.
What terran units in SC2 would you replace with accented waifus.
Christian Anderson
Best styled on both his opponents with dark templars and miso played like a retard and threw away a gorillion mutas in both games for nothing
Dylan Carter
imagine making 40 mutalisks and then a moving into goliaths and science vessels
Jace Hernandez
B U R G E R S
Anthony Bennett
Wow this guy is clearly an SC2 caster. He seems absolutely clueless about how TvTs go down in BW.
Jayden King
these two are much better than R*pid
Nathan Bennett
>as an american the phrase curved hamburger makes me physically uncomfortable
this guy has gotten better with the cast definitely
Kevin Nguyen
>As an american, the phrase curved hamburger makes me physically uncomfortable
Hunter Roberts
REAL TANK HOURS
Connor Ortiz
Me again >he thinks minerals are relevant in TvT What the fuck my man
Rapid Regret is the absolute worst. This guy sucks but Cadenzie is doing a pretty good job carrying the entire cast
Hunter Thompson
I fucking love TvT
Michael Rogers
Burgercast confirmed.
Luke Allen
I'd take somebody who knows about sc2 over somebody who knows about neither
have you seen a sc2 rapid cast? even they hate him
Matthew Russell
gg
Landon Robinson
GEEGEEEEEEEE
Angel Brooks
Burgercast, pretty good.
Adrian Price
It wont solve all your problems, I think massing them like weve seen is a mistake, Im talking about having a few mixed in with your army.
Even if you dont want to use broodlings, you can have a few for parasite and for their most underrated ability to infest cc's, which essentially cuts their hp in half.
John Gomez
We all know cadenzie regret is best team
Ryder Evans
S t a r g i r l
Jayden Green
>We all know cadenzie regret I wish I knew what that felt like.
Gavin Cruz
Yeah, it seemed pretty obvious that Best would cruise through and Light would take 2nd. At least we got Best's sick DT mine drag, and that last decent TvT. Miso's collapse against JyJ was pretty funny, though.
Joseph Richardson
>you can have a few for parasite No just stop talking. Next time when you see a top tier Zerg play the game notice how little gas they have to play with every time. "A few" queens isn't the type of resources they have to play with, especially if they can spend that resources on defilers instead
Connor Rivera
Rapid is bottom of the barrel trash, literally anything is better than that retard. He just spouts random shit out with an excited voice to pretend to be a good caster.
>It wont solve all your problems, I think massing them like weve seen is a mistake, Im talking about having a few mixed in with your army. That can work but the problem with the queen is the huge expense in making a single one + the loooooong time before it has energy enough for broodlings.
It can be decent for ensnare, but that only works against bio.
Jayden Cox
>cadenzie suggesting to steal one the jerseys What's up with casters and stealing from the hand feeding them?
That should give you just enough time to learn Korean for the group nomination ceremony.
Logan Williams
Only if he eats all the haggis.
Joseph Adams
>Im talking about having a few mixed in with your army. A thing that needs to be cleared up with watchers and weekend players -- the players *know* the game very well and they don't generally spend cash frivolously on upgrades, just because they might "come in handy", for some incidental utility. Being 100 gas behind is a big deal in high-precision matches.
Brayden Thompson
mixing in extra unit sadly isn't really working for sc:bw, because of the archaic unit groups and the lack of smart casting
Hudson Wood
Exactly. Compare Queens to Defilers, a cost comparison. A queen costs 100 100, a defiler cost 50 150. Quuens has free parasite, defiler has free consume. Defilers gets plague which wrecks science vessel balls, tons of units at once so they become virtually free kills and they get dark swarm so zerg units doesn't actually die, defilers is the ultimate Zerg unit. Queens was a mistake because Blizzard had no idea what they were doing and didn't understand their own game.
Jacob Thomas
>Tasteless is better than artosis. Tasteless is amazing but artosis really helps him. Honestly they are the Top Gear of casters
Xavier Clark
guys im feeling a bit fuzzy in the head. what happens if you stay awake for longer than 24 hours?
Anthony Cruz
Go to sleep, dummy
Oliver Miller
You get your foreskin back.
Juan Hill
Nothing special, I went for three days straight once. You should still probably sleep, shit's not great for you.
It becomes hard to focus or have complex thoughts, your judgement gets much worse (often you won't realize how bad the decisions you make are until after you sleep), your reaction speeds decrease, and it's bad for your health in the long term.
Seriously bro go to sleep. Even if all you can manage is an hour or two before you need to go to work or something, do it.
Michael Davis
>We all know cadenzie regret is best team I really really want to see her with Tasteless casting.
Brody White
metabolites that normally get flushed out of your brain when you sleep start accumulating in higher levels and then 50 years later you get dementia
Christopher Richardson
there's a guy in /vg/ strategy games thread trying to convince us that losing a worker is less impactful than losing a vulture because vultures cost 75 minerals and workers cost 50
Caleb Mitchell
>/vg/ There's your problem, my friend
Brody Bailey
Yeah but if you lose a vulture you also lost 3 mines
Christopher Reyes
>defiler has free consume Defiler has free Dark Swarm.
Jeremiah Flores
Oh yeah, I can't believe I got that wrong. Still! Free dark swarm! It's one of the best abilities in the game so that just shows how cost efficient defilers are
Your thought patterns get a bit derailed and you make some weird conclusions when having a complex train of thought. You can feel a bit dizzy and your reaction times are rather bad.
The fun doesn't start until 55-60 hours in, that's when you get delusional and have some weak hallucinations.
Artosis and Tasteless have great synergy, not just because their dynamic and banter is great, but because they're highly skilled Terran and Protoss players respectively. That leaves either one of them able to do live analysis of 5 of the matchups from their race's perspective, and it's leaving the least complex matchup the one that they only have an outside perspective on.
ZvZ isn't very complex because the games are so scrappy and short, there's not much room for huge complexity. ZvZ gets very complex as you progress into the late-game, but that's like less than 1% of the time.
Noah Myers
>they're highly skilled Terran and Protoss players respectively I mean I love my tassles but he hasn't touched SC2 in years and probably only lurks SCR content to keep up with the meta/or asks artosis. So long artosis isn't annoyed I don't care.
Adam Morales
FASTER
Adam Powell
>I mean I love my tassles but he hasn't touched SC2 in years and probably only lurks SCR content to keep up with the meta/or asks artosis. So far as I understand he has been playing again recently, but had to quit because what seems like RSI to me.
They talked a bit about it on KSL 3.
Justin Gutierrez
fuck i love TvT i swear there is nothing better
Jaxon Rodriguez
only 150 IQ chess masters can appreciate TvT
Xavier Kelly
To be perfectly honest, the Western community hardly understands how to play TvT. Someone like KogeT or Nyoken know their stuff, but the overall knowledge on the matchup is low.
Charles Wilson
thats because westernfags are too retarded to accept anything but mindless protoss matchups
David Wright
3 minutes until group nominations begin
Carson White
HOW MANY GAMES ARE THERE LEFT??
Grayson Campbell
0, my friend. I'm sorry but it was early today. I slept in so I feel your pain. You're just in time for group nominations however.
Henry Taylor
They finished like an hour ago.
Landon Williams
S t a r g i r l
Daniel Green
Shoulderfags, please report in. What's the status of Stargirl's shoulders?
Ensnare actually sounds more practical than Spawn Broodlings since they cost only 75 energy compared to Broodlings' 150 energy. Why is it even rarer than broodlings?
No, it's because playing Terran comes with a high mechanical skill floor (barrier-to-entry; note that each race's skill ceiling is pretty much infinite. That includes Protoss, Artosis.) and very few really dedicated players remain at the skill level where they'd be any decent at Terran, and we have fewer controlled practice environments like Koreans do, not to mention that any and all coaching by giants like iloveoov is only passed on to us through reinterpretation and translation, and on top of all that, people used to dodge TvT on ICC and Fish (and sometimes even on ladder) simply because TvT is time-consuming, and a lot of players (especially Koreans in PC Bangs) don't have time to commit. Hence the prevalence of builds like 3 fact vult on ladder that are basically saying "I don't feel like playing TvT, let's close this out quickly".
Nicholas Reed
...
Brody Cruz
>stargirl talks to literally any player >conversation still steers into Flash discussion
Gayest pale vampire. IMHO he's honestly not *that* bad as a caster.
Owen Kelly
has there ever been an esports player that has dominated his game like flash? I can;t think of a sport with one player so head and shoulders above everybody else. Like a tournament without him is almost null and void and anybody in his group already considered dead
Henry Ramirez
Always funny hearing pro koreans trying to provoke each other while still being polite.
Nolan Reyes
Honestly can't think of anyone. Even the fighting game greats like Justin Wong or Daigo aren't quite the level of sheer dominance of Flash. Flash in his prime was at the top for soooo goddamned loooong.
Oliver Taylor
No, Flash is 100% the most dominant esports player ever. He's been a god for over 10 years.
Austin Ross
I think AOE2 has a very strong player that's expected to win every 1v1 tournament but I don't actively follow the scene so I'm not sure.
i dont know much about arena FPS history but fatality was the top prize winner in esports overall for a super long time, he might have been that dominate
Anthony Campbell
Rapha in Quake comes to mind. Viper is very good, but both MBL and Vivi can beat him.
Jeremiah Young
Lmao the Protoss group trying to secure an entire night of PvP.
Julian Brown
>Horang2 >Sacsri >Flash What the fucking fuck is this batshit selection.
of course I wouldn't understand, because my skill level is too shit for those mind games. doesn't change the fact that its massive shitposting by the players to meme the others out
Christian Bailey
Welp, that's it. A really entertaining selection ceremony this season, maybe even more so than previous seasons for some reason. Probably because Flash isn't up to his usual veto shenanigans. Really fun watch. See you guys this Sunday.
We're done here, I'll see you on sunday for >Last (t) >Rush(t) >Sharp(t) >ZeLot(z) remember, it's both bo3s and bo1s for the next round so get fucking hyped for 5 hours of tvt
Watching today's games is pure hell with these two fucks casting it.
Lucas Gomez
both tasteless and artosis have called spider mines widow mines on numerous occasions
honestly i didn't mind him. He wasn't that familiar with BW, but unlike rapid who tries to be the centre of the cast, he played the role of the inexperienced hype man and asked her decent questions about the matchup, which is exactly what you need
James Perez
t. Creighto
Evan Parker
Rapid Solo Casts are a thing of beauty, and Rapid is highly endearing.
Elijah Myers
I honestly want another Rapid solocast just to hear him out of breath. It was amusing the last time it happened.
Alexander Baker
I imagine that's how he sounds after sex.
Jordan Miller
>Rapid Solo Casts are a thing of beauty In the same way a burning trainwreck is a thing of beauty, sure. The only time when he's enjoyable to me is when he's casted with Wolf, who has a similar level of experience as him and a relatively calm personality. He isn't constantly being an unfunny faggot like he is with Tasteless/Artosis, he isn't acting like a know-it-all and talking out of his ass like he does with NoRegret, and he isn't hopelessly scrambling to figure out whats going on in the game like he does solo.