>"It generated a big debate about whether parental controls are sufficient, how much responsibility lies with mum and dad - and the ethics of encouraging young players to spend money within games and apps."
>"Following the BBC's report, deputy Labour leader Tom Watson tweeted calling for "tighter regulation" in gaming, saying there were "considerable fears that gaming is a gateway to gambling". " >"Educating parents around controls that can be used on devices to help mitigate these incidents occurring, and awareness of age rating for content, is a good starting point."
>""I'd also like to see the industry self-regulate to do more to safeguard younger players and overuse of games." "
Are modern video games the getway to hardcore gambling? Is it really only younger players or all the "addicts" that are targeted, Yea Forums?
>My son spent £3,160 in one game >I have a 22 year-old disabled son, who has cerebral palsy, complex epilepsy, autism, learning difficulties and the approximate cognitive ability of a seven-year-old child.
So you have to be literally brain damaged to spend so much in a game. Case closed.
Some of them are clearly designed to trigger the same responses from people like slots and other forms of casual gambling, but if you try to approach this from the "muh kids" angle, why the fuck do all these brats have access to their parents bank accounts? Who the fuck lets any app or site save that shit. Just asking your shit to get stolen. If they want to regulate something, make sites save your bank info illegal.
Jonathan Foster
All the responsibility lies with the parents in terms of leaving the door open for their kids to have access to their cards without their permission, or even worse they raise the kid so poorly to the point where he spends their money without their consent and sees nothing wrong with it, that's on them for not teaching their child the value of money. The developers having gacha shit and creating an addiction is something that needs to looked as well since that shouldn't be something that's considered separate from gambling and should be met with some level of regulation, but it's definitely a double whammy. If the parent is ignorant that card information works on consoles and doesn't bother to learn then that's poor parenting on their part as well.
Josiah Campbell
If her son is that stupid, they shouldn't have given him access to that much money, what the fuck were they thinking?
Justin Lopez
maybe don't give your kids your credit card info lmao
Jordan Collins
This like what the fuck. Why did he have access to so much money.
Jayden Hill
children under 16 should not be allowed access to the internet there problem solved for MANY fucking things
Kayden Thomas
>amp fuck off with your google referral links and clickbait. the parent, child, and article writer are all retarded.
Colton Barnes
>parents are retarded >child spends all their money
WOOOOOOOOOW
Hunter Perry
Just hit children with a belt.
Lincoln Turner
this is gambling, you have kids fucking gambling.
Anthony Garcia
Geez, i wouldn't fucking dare to do anything with real world money without my parents permission first when i was a kid, let alone blow thousands on a single game, that child is a pure retard, i don't know how you breed retardation that deep into another creature.
On one hand the parents clearly should have been aware of the risks of giving a child/mentally impaired person access to a bank account, but on the other the systems are clearly designed to function like a casino and exploit people through adrenaline. I wonder just how far companies will go to continue to please investors with higher and higher profit margins at the expense of consumers, what is the endgame here?
>Child got kidnapped by a kiddy diddler >Law enforcement? Nah, it's parent's fault for not studying all the newest pedophile tactics
Henry Rogers
I mean... they are up on youtube
Jonathan Nguyen
"I'm a bad parent."
Ayden Adams
>being this stupid Apples and oranges.
A child has zero ability to use parents money outside of those methods given to them. Every bank in the world offers debit cards to underage individuals and it costs nothing for a parent to set one up, drop X amount of money in it and tell a kid 'You have an allowance of $50 a month, if you spend it you don't get more'. Its not fucking hard.
Josiah Morris
How can you have kids and only have 3160 funbucks in your bank account?
I guess that means the credit card took the adult "kid" hostage, forced it to make purchases and then sent an ear to the police.
Blake Bennett
Maybe you shouldnt give your kid your CC info. Every single one of these stories about kids emptying bank accounts don't take in account the parents either a) typing in their CC info and saving it to the account and b) outright giving their kid their CC info. FUCKING PARENT YOUR KIDS
Andrew Stewart
>$50 a month Yikes, ghetto kids please leave.
Joshua Walker
They're euros, the spend half 3/4ths their wages in taxes and half of what's left on a TV license.
Levi Morales
It's his retard money, provided by the government, to his own bank account, as he is 22. The parents would have to demand to have him deemed unresponsible and get control of his accounts, but that's not up to them. You don't know how much of a retard he is. Propably not that much if he had access to money.
Lincoln Myers
It was an arbitrary amount fuckface. The point stands, no child can spend a parents money without their permission or giving them free access. Fuck even every Xbone and PS now has parental locks to stop this shit. In fact im pretty sure even Steam has one as well. Its their fault for not educating their child or otherwise controlling their own money.
Nathan Watson
the obligatory "britain represents europe" post
Tyler Turner
They're brits, and I'm a 22 year old Uni student with 5k euros in his bank account.
How it typically goes is that the kid asks the parent to buy them the thing (something like "mom buy me these FIFA points I've been getting good grades") under the unspoken premise that CC info won't be stored and it's a one time thing. The parent doesn't know their info is stored automatically and the kid may or may not know, but even if they don't they quickly figure it out. The kid starts out small with their purchases and gradually gets more daring and greedy, thinking their parents probably have infinite money. Later on the parent's card gets declined for something or they just take a look at their bank statement and notice dozens of transactions and their balance is gone and they contact support. Basically it's a mixture of ignorant parents and dumb kids not knowing the value of money.
Chase Williams
Holy fuck you underage children you are aware of the fact you can have multiple accounts under one bank account right Jesus Christ. He quite clearly empty the cards account, not their entire life savings.
Liam Mitchell
and what expenses do you have?
Evan Morgan
I am very much aware, but when I hear "empty a bank account" I take it to mean you've got 0 total money in your combined accounts from that bank since most regular people aren't big brain enough to have accounts on multiple banks.
Gabriel Scott
okay retard
Isn't there usually an option to not save the card or vice versa? I don't think I have any of my cards actually saved for security reasons more than anything.
Andrew Cox
>it's okay to manipulate men into spending thousands of dollars on skinner boxes No. The l State has a duty to protect all its members from exploiter classes, not just children. Men are the most valuable asset of a nation who contribute the most of all classes to a nation's functioning and prospering, the nation in return has a duty to men to collectivly protect them from practices like this through public law banning gambling and pseudo-gaming gambling.
Asher Hall
>but when I hear "empty a bank account" I take it to mean translation >I am retarded and buy into article click bait You're the prime audience of tacky click bait, congratulations.
Jacob Edwards
>not setting spending limits on the game account >not getting a fraud protection notice from card company confirming you're the one spending so much >not noticing a 3 grand charge or numerous charges adding up to 3 grand in your account >letting your kid spend enough time in a game to rack up that many charges how does this happen in the current year? especially with instant real time bank app/e-mail/phone notification that lets you know about big charges/a lot of charges
Tyler Perry
2.5k-3k yearly to keep studying, gas, food, subscription to a local pool (it's a gym but gym is gay I just want to swim) and 100 a month for rent because a family member was generous enough to take me in. I can pay off Uni costs with a summer of full-time work so I still manage to save some money at the end of each month.
I don't get paid to study either like northern EU faggots, while our Uni costs are exorbitantly high compared to most other EU countries.
Charles Harris
>So you have to be literally brain damaged to spend so much in a game True but the game itself can damage the brain by collapsing higher function into a dopamine reward for real money input cycle.
Brody Hernandez
Only clicking I've done is to reply to your garbage posts.
Nathan Thomas
Parents don't know any of this shit works so they just assume their info isn't stored. Many also assume their kid wouldn't be irresponsible with money, not realising kids are fucking stupid and these games are made specifically to entice them into making microtransactions. I worked for PS support and like 1 in 5 calls we got was about unauthorised transactions. Most of the time we told them to suck it up, I usually told them to go through the bank to cancel them
Jonathan Powell
I think the single most damaging impact /pol/ had on Yea Forums is how there is now an entire legion of retarded corporate shills who unironically defend companies who make bullshit like this. The old "if you don't like it don't pay/play it" adage has been turned into a full ideological talking point about how everything a private game company ever does is always and forever justified.
Angel Davis
So again it's a 50/50 split blame on retarded parents and a dumb kid.
If we listened to dumb parents whining about muh bad influence in the 80s and 90s we wouldn't even have video games as we know it today. I don't want people who know nothing about the thing they're complaining about be at the forefront of the discussion on what to do about it.
Owen King
I've spent $700 on Phantasy Star Online 2. Don't really play it anymore, but still no regrets.
Justin Turner
there's no denying predatory practices, but there's also no denying tools parents have at their disposal to protect themselves and limit spending on their kid's phones. its bewildering how in this day and age people are still so dumb and lazy when it comes to electronic security.
Wyatt Morris
Bro that's the Woke Capitalist Left who now believe in absolute coperate hegemony now that the Left control every big business.
Grayson Murphy
It's his money.
Nicholas Allen
>its bewildering how no it's not
Adrian Morris
While being retarded with credit cards is parents dumassery I think its pretty unethical to market thinly disguised skinner boxes to retards and children.
Adam Foster
If the Left controls every big business, why haven't they all been turned into democratic worker cooperatives yet?
Logan Rodriguez
zoom zoom zoom
Colton Ross
Everyone is ignorant on some subject, nobody has time to learn everything. To you it might be weird that your dad uses the same password on every website, to your dad it might be weird that you can't hammer a nail properly.
And that kids know how to use the device better than the parents. They most likely know the password or someshit.
James Hughes
Well, his low IQ had to come from somewhere.
Jordan Morales
when buying your son a popular videogame that he can play at home you shouldn't have to setup multiple lines of pre-cautions so that he doesn't become a gambling addict or wipes your bank account.
this doesn't mean you should leave access to your credit card to your kid: you shouldn't.But the worry shouldn't originate from a reputable videogame on a reputable console. those should be safe. there shouldn't be any risk in those.
try to do a food analogy with the real world: you can put your wallet on the table and your 10 year old kid might slip out 5$, get out of home and buy some candy.Limited risk, limited damage, hard to committ, nothing to really worry about. Games with monetized gambling like mechanics that put no self-limitation would be like the candy-shop owner setting up a fucking circus everytime you went to buy a candy and offering increasingly expensive candies while also suggesting you should steal from your parents to have the money to get them and also never telling the kid that he shouldn't eat 1 kg of candy in a day or wondering how the hell he got 1000$.(it still doesn't count as food analogy, could be toys instead of candy please....).No matter what that's fucked up, a reasonable parent would go the shop and punch the man in the face.
Joshua Barnes
why would a ghetto kid be getting $50 a month?
Andrew Brooks
But that was not the only case. Several other cases were listed. People just read the first one and stopped reading?
Liam Long
im a Brit in the same position and have more than that. What point are you making here?
James Brown
That Britain isn't representative of Europe.
Jose Smith
citation SORELY needed on that one, professor.
Matthew Carter
>parent is a retard when it comes to parenting >”we need more regulation!” Every fucking time.
Justin Baker
Gotta love all these childless armchair warrors with strong opinions on parenting.
Ian Bennett
It’s like Idiocracy, fren. The dumb fucks end up having kids while the ones with their head on their shoulders end up not having any.
Jaxon Moore
Just do your job, faggot. You’re not special because your wife can shit a child out her cunt.
Connor Parker
Investors did not agree
Adrian Garcia
Your analogy is retarded, it is your child, your credit card and therefore it is your responsibility to manage these two things. Stores have no way of knowing who is at the other end of an online transaction so they provide you the tools to assist in managing it and it is again your responsibility to make use of it.
Dominic Murphy
>popular video game It was one of those hidden object games that is only popular among housewives, they are notorious for having pay-to-win microtransactions.
Ryder Lopez
Based neet spends his autism bucks on vidya, nothing wrong here.
>dude, children do nothing wrong and will behave on their own UwU
William Rivera
I'm going to bet that all are just as retarded, or their parents were for letting irresponsible children (or mental children) have access to large amounts of money.
Mason Gomez
>over 15 months Imagine being unable to keep track of your finances. There's that ither kid that blew a thousand pounds on Fortnite but it was over 8 months. That works out to about 4 pounds a day, like people don't waste that on cigs or coffee or eating out once a week. These sums can't really be that detrimental to the family finances?
Juan Sullivan
LOL WHAT ARE YOU 12? This is a stupid post.
Kevin Gomez
>what is the endgame here?
Acquiring all the money in the world. Goyim shouldn't be allowed to have any money.
jesus christ why are people this stupid? do not let your children save payment information or give them things you already saved it to. tablets aren't parents you stupid faggots. don't give them digital wallets full of money either, make them tell you what they're buying.
Gavin Howard
Literally nothing.
You spend cash in that game to cheese levels. He cheesed the same levels over and over again.
Imagine buying quartz in FGO for AP refills on quests which net no rewards
Owen Hughes
>£ >FIFA probably more dicks up his ass He's probably never even heard of that shit before. He's not exactly a tech nerd.
Brody King
I remember when I was a kid playing Quake online and Command & Conquer offline. No ads, no lootboxes, no DLC. What a hellish world we live in.
Robert Parker
>I want game companies to look after my kids because I am a weak parent
Ryan Phillips
he spent it on normalfag sportsball shit instead of something suitably autistic like train simulator or dead or alive, he's misrepresenting the autistic retard community.
Justin Stewart
>Propably You're just as retarded as him.
Jayden Perez
>It is extremely distressing that vulnerable people, such as my son, become victims of what is thought to be an educational game. >educational game >FIFA She's as retarded as him Why did he have access to the kind of money anyway?
Owen Thompson
Well I didna rough calculation based on miles/wins across the games recently and I've probably spent about 3k on the Maximum Tune series since 2004 so I cant really swing dick I cant imagine doing it for "Feefer" though.
I have friends that play this shit ass game and it looks to me like single player has all the characters so where do these "player packs" come in?
James Miller
christ, this. don't fucking leave your credit card info available for use. my kids have erased god knows how many save files because i left a controller within reach when they were young. i can't imagine one of them going "i want this" and being able to hit-
hold on a fucking second forget all that, if you download a game that is so barbaric in it's MTX that spending over a thousand eurobux is even POSSIBLE, you should be punished for it. just desserts.
Kayden Smith
>If they want to regulate something, make sites save your bank info illegal. this, re-enter your shit when you want to make a purchase.
Parker Anderson
yeah if the parents constantly exposed their kids to known pedophiles without supervision you might have an equivalence here
Angel Carter
Nice False equivalence, you moron.
Robert Fisher
This is the most false equivalent post I've ever seen.
Elijah Watson
Most games now just feel like gambling sims and incomplete messes made to trick people into spending hundreds for the finished game. I honestly don't know how people enjoy most modern games, guess you just kind of accept it when you grow up with it being the norm.
Hudson Bennett
>Haha! I'm rich! Honest! Making me better than you! Yessir! How fragile is your ego?
Justin Bailey
why dont they just qualify games with microtransactions and loot boxes as Adult only and end this shit once and for all?
Jaxson Morgan
Oh, thats right, I forgot publishers are afraid of having to make quality products to be able to compete, so instead they just steal money from idiots and kids, got it.
Thomas Lee
>2006 >12 years of age >play shitty free to play mmo >"buy a lootbox or something like that', only 0.99! >use my mom's phone to buy it >instant regret >confess my crimes to her, say how dumb I was on the verge of crying for how much of a shitty son I am >"what? well uhh... don't do that then? I love you" >still feel horrible to this day betraying her trust despite her saying many times that it's okay to waste a bit of a money on things you like sometimes
>lmao, why did the game not looking out after my retarded son???
Based retarded whales. Wait hang on, NO! Whales just make the devs design games FOR whales, meaning it gets dumbed down and MORE P2W. Fuck.
Hunter Morales
You're a good son. Take good care of your mom.
Anthony Bell
"Pedo tactics" don't really change and it's been known for a while that kids are most likely to be molested/trafficked by a family member, and at later ages by their own decisions (facilitated by lack of parental guidance, but still)
Gavin Peterson
He got brain damaged from playing games and watching anime
Dominic Diaz
>Insults a child by calling them a child. It takes time to understand money. Parents let 4 year olds play these games. They barely even understand numbers.
Juan Cruz
Any game with in game purchases should be rated for adults and not be allowed to be marketed towards children. Any violation of this will result in forfeiture of ALL revenue, not profits, from these transactions for the lifetime of the game.
Christian Ross
THANK YOU GUBMINT PLEASE BAN THESE GAMES
Jaxson Gonzalez
Based and 5th commandment-pilled
Liam Lopez
oi m8 u got a loicense for them gachas?
Michael Campbell
Hahaha they aren't going to do shit to EA. This will be forgotten in about a week and then it will pop back up again in the news whenever another retarded kid maxes out mommy and daddy's credit card. Gaming is dead.
>Yea Forums are now against capitalism Learn some personal responsability. If you don't want your kids playing these games, then don't let them. Get fucked commies.
Most people are completely tech illiterate and have very short attention spans.
At first they probably have no idea that in-app purchases are even available. If they are, they don't know that the payment info is saved or that are parental controls. And by the time they realize, the damage is done.
Samuel Phillips
>I'm a terrible parent who can't bother to parent my literally retarded child.
Landon Moore
>Hmmm...it’s not as simple as parents should have known better, perhaps parental controls should also be stronger...I have my account tapped up every so often by an accidental purchase!
Robert Miller
Idiot fucking boomers.
Mason Long
>wanting some regulationd means full-blown communism, there is no in-between
Fuck off kike shill.
Jacob Reyes
>first thought of British when confronted with responsibility is "MORE GOVERNMENT" What's it even like being constantly like this?
Jeremiah Lewis
What kind of shitty parenting lets that kind of spending happen. I 'borrowed' a couple quid from my moms purse when i was a kid and felt like a total piece of shit for doing it.
Cameron Sullivan
Fifa and other sports games are the biggest scams going. People pay real money for the chance of getting good players or whatever plus they release a new game every year and previous money spent doesn't even carry over.
Kayden Ortiz
Explains why you weebfaggots spend billions on gacha.
