What happened to all the Geno supporters?

What are the weapons on the right? Krystal's and Ashley's?

why do people want Geno? I mean, he's cool and all but he was party member in spin off RPG. I never see people clamor for Mallow or Vivian or Bow, so why Geno?

desu geno at least got some compensation by having a legendary tiered spirit fight that was faithful to smrpg

ATTENTION WARNING ATTENTION THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE REGARDING GENO

The Forest Maze theme (which is highly regarded as Geno's main theme) and another track from Super Mario RPG have been removed by BrawlBRSTMS3 X after a copyright strike, not from Squeenix, but from NINTENDO.

Now, this doesn't necessarily mean he is in, and it's a Genofag here who says it, because there is already a Squeenix rep being represented in the Fighters Pass, that being the Hero. Having a 2nd rep makes little sense.

But no matter what timeline, Nintendo is planning to do something with these tracks. My personal theory is that you gain them after buying Geno's Mii Outfit in the Nintendo EShop when it launches with Hero . And if my theory is correct, that also means the time to play as Hero is nigh.

For the same reason I want Shokora, because he's cute and interesting.

Kill yourself

>locking music behind a dlc mii costume

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>I never see people clamor for Mallow or Vivian or Bow
Geno looks cool

Sorry user, but it was probably just Nintendo mass-flagging shit on BrawlBRSTMs3 X's channel. He commented as much on Papagenos' video.

Porky has a better chance than any of the remainder of never everfags. Prove me wrong.

Hey, I'm only posting news. Have sex.
They DID lock trophies behind DLC back in Smash 4.
Well, Blocked Content did a video about that too and its highly discussed on Smashboards.
He has, and I am beyond hyped for that. But I had to point out this, because I actually think it's more of tease of a Mii Outfit than anything.

We're still around.

What happened to all the Isaac supporters?

Moved to the next meme bandwagon, Doomguy specifically.

>meme bandwagon
>Doomguy
Choose one.
>inb4 yea but he's only appeared after some leaks or something
DoomGuy begin to be popular after Samsh announcement, around March-April. His popularity came mostly from hints from Bethesda and Id themselves.

Revisionism

>Doomguy

Ew, but I do want to start a new bandwagon for smash 6.

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Doomguy is 100% a meme bandwagon pick. Nintendo's not going to shill Doom when it's barely known in Japan, if you wanted to go for an actual reasonable pick from Bethesda, you'd go for an Elder Scrolls or a Fallout character, games that the Japs actually care about.

>one word argument
Cool.

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My guess is that they could only get the orchestrated versions of Adventure and Overture and realized that it would e really stupid to advertise NEW music and NOT get fucking anything alongside Hero besides old crusty songs.
So Sakurai probably went with other Square songs and bought Forest Mushrooms and Boss Battle to pad out the song list.

>When its barely known in Japan
Banjo-Kazooie. Also, its clear that Nintendo actually give a shit about their 'overseas fans'
>Elder Scrolls
Why would Nintendo and Bethesda choose another Rpg rep plus that isnt on its good way ?(Mobile games, woo hoo.)
>Fallout
....in Japan ? Seriously ? Also Fallout 76, clearly not the right time when Doom is getting more relevant and litteraly his 25th anniversary.

1. Banjo was popular in Japan
2. Because people, and nips more importantly, give a shit about thr Elder Scrolls. They don't care about Doom all that much.
3. Fallout actually sold pretty well in Japan.

BUT buying just the songs alone doesn't make THAT much sense.
Which in fact proves that if we ain't getting a full playable Geno we'll at least get back the Mii Outfit, and I am TOTALLY fine with that.

>they won't shill Elder Scrolls because there are no games on the way
What is Banjo?

>Banjo was popular in Japan
No. People didn't care about Banjo, they all wanted Dragon Quest.
>Sold/Popularity argument
So we didn't we get Steve ? Minecraft is very popular in Japan and in the world overall. Popularity isn't a factor to be in Smash.
Banjo was a requested character since probably Melee. It wasn't relevant in the gaming industry overall but in Smash community ? Sure.

yes big brain

Well yeah that makes sense. I mean there's not much Geno can do that the Gunner can't already. Y'know, besides Geno whirl which btw Swordfighter has instead.

I hope they give the costume ears this time. It looks really stupid without them.

>popularity matters because they wanted Dragon Quest
>well actually no because popularity doesn't matter muh steve

Guess who were supporting Banjo/Steve but came back now that they were revealed to be in?

Japan cared about both DQ and Banjo. Banjo was an internationally requested character. Doomguy isn't.

>muh sales don't matter
If you're a third party character with no relations with Nintendo, they do. See them going for Cloud and Joker simply because they came from the most successful games of their franchises.

Can't you see how your arguments all contradict each other, man?

>Wel-well Dragon Quest w-was popular
It was a popular REQUEST, have you seen any Dovakhiin or Vault-Boy in the top Request characters ? Also Dragon Quest was popular but only in Japan, worldwide they are mostly unknown, so Worldwide, they are completly irrevelant.
Sakurai and Nintendo choosing their characters is almost impossible to predict, we can only refers to what others companies says or leaks and even there, its not 100% confirmed. Also, DoomGuy isn't a meme character, just because you don't like doesn't make it one. Also, Pc gaming in Japan is kinda niche, so Doom having is little community noneless is actuallt pretty impressive.

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Dragon Quest literally sells a hundred times better in the West than Doom does in Japan. DQ being a "Japan-only" pick is extremely hyperbolic.

>If you're a third party characger with no relations with nintendo.
What is Bethesda ?
What is Doom 64 ?
What is Dooms port on Snes ?
What is Doom 4 and Doom Eternal porting to -Switch ?
Not only it has connections but Doom has an actual story with Nintendo.

I don't give a rats behind about whatever the fuck you were arguing about you stupid faggot. I was just pointing out your inconsistencies.

>D-Doomguy isn't a meme! I swear!
He's on par with Geno, Klonoa, and Master Chief when it comes to meme picks.

Right here!
As long as it takes. It's not like it'll be hard to wait, the roster is already superb and I have already gotten some of my wildest pipe dreams like Bayonetta.

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>all outsold by Skyrim on Switch
You're getting Dovahkin if you're getting anything Bethesda-related.

thanks for reminding me of the context for this image

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>Dragon Quest literally sells a hundred times better in the West.
The West is litteraly 800 millions of people if we count Usa and European Union, of course its gonna sell more. And im not even counting Third World.

Ridley was litteral the "too big !" Character meme. And here we are.
So stop arguing if you don't give a shit.

>Japan's population only makes up a fifth of the US + the EU
And if DQ only sold five times the amount of copies Doom does in Japan, you'd have a point, but it sells it a hundredfold. DQ is an internationally popular series, Doom is nothing in Japan.

You leave Klonoa out of this. Also, wahoo!

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That what Banjofags were told, they're gonna have Master Chief or Steve if they want Microsoft related. But it appear sometimes they actually give a shit about people. Same goes with Bethesda, also sometimes.

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>Ridley was a meme too!
He was also a major Nintendo character who had been heavily requested since forever. Geno's a meme sidecharacter from a third party, and Doomguy is a bandwagon FoV pick that lacks any support amongst both the Smash community, and Japan's gaming community in general.

>acting as if Doom is more loved and popular than Elder Scrolls in the Smash fanbase.
Lmao bruh, what are you on?

Doomguy is not Banjo

DQ is huge in Japan, its small in the West and pretty much inexistant in other countries. Of course, Doom is not popular in Japan, even if they have a small community. Pc gaming being difficult there, but outside of Japan, Doom is more popular.
>Ridley
>Major character.
Ridley was a villain from multiples villains Metroid has. Your are not'going to put Mario, Link, Bowser, Pikachu and Ridley in the same spot, are you ?
Have you seen any thread with multiples request of Dovakhiin ? Is he in any high position in ballot ?
Im sure Elders Scrolls is more popular than Doom in the gaming industry but in the smash community ? No.

The DQ series' total sales in the West are just about that of the Doom series. It's not as unpopular as you think.

As far as Doomguy showing up in polls, that's only been a thing for the last few months or so. It's not widespread longlasting support, it's literally meme bandwagoning.

We don't have the full data, but
Doom in 2004 had sold 8 million as a franchise
Dragon Quest in 2002 had sold past 35 million
They are not fucking comparable as a franchise, even if DQ is only ultra popular in Japan, it still translates to far more sales.
Hell it makes this point a counterpoint. Selling more among a smaller population vs selling less among a larger population.

>It's not widespread longlasting support, it's meme bandwagoning.
Do you even know what's a meme character ? Sans is a meme character, heck, even Waluigi is a meme character. Its not because a character is recently requested, its automatically a meme. Doom has an actual legacy behind him, its just with the recent events, people actually think he's possible.

>Doom 4 and Doom Eternal porting to Switch
Fucking hell even when it gets new games you faggots still call it porting. How are you liking that port of dragon quest builders 2, bitch

Steve has a legacy too, he's no less a meme pick. Same applies to Doomguy.

Rayman > Genos > Steve > Doomguy

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You'd need about ten >s between Rayman and the others, man.

But yeah, definitely, Rayman rocks.

Why are you taking Doom 3 as a "Franchise" ? Of course taking the most mediocre Why don't you take Doom 1 and 2 , yes they dont specifilcy have sales info, but they litteraly made
a new genre, "doom-clones" before fps.
Stay mad for nothing, retard.
>Steve has also a legacy
Zoomer detected.

I just wanted this character in Smash...

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He took total numbers in 2004, retard, not only Doom 3 sales.

Also, Minecraft absolutely has a legacy, it's one of the best selling games ever and already has plenty of successful clones.

It's also been ignored by everyone for the latest flavor-of-the-month, Fortnite.

Minecraft is more popular then Fortnite

I don't fucking know where he took those numbers, clearly due to Doom being a shareware before the full game, but deniying that Doom didn't have an impact to video game industry is just retarded.

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Keep telling yourself that. Love to see how people will react when Minecraft Guy is ignored for the 5th slot in Smash for some Fortnite Guy.

Mmmmhmmm

Minecraft is several times more popular than Fortnite, and they're not even aiming for the same consumers.

You were fucked from the get go because Morrigan would be the one to get it anyways.

Won't happen. Steve, Fortnite guy, Doomguy, they're all memepicks, and none of them are getting in.

>Litteraly the only thread where DoomGuy is considered a meme pick
Look up, the other thread has Doomguy requests (even Ranger lmao) its just you.

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I know when to give it up. I still like the dude but his chances are slim as all hell

The fact that this had to be edited says it all.

I challenge you to find a thread where Doomguy is seen as a serious pick that is older than Smash Ultimate.

He's a meme bandwagon pick, bro.

FPS wasn't that big of a genre back then.
Also source:
>The Doom series of games have sold about 8.5 million copies around the world since the original game's release in 1993
baka.com.au/technology/taking-gamers-beyond-their-doom-20040823-gdjlt4.html

That would mean CERO not being massive assholes, and that's obviously not gonna happen

Gave up on their childish delusions.

I just want his costume back

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I gave up desu, been on this train too long

>Again with the "Its recent so its a memee !"
Sans, Waluigi and Steve were there since Smash 4, Doom begin to be relevant again with Doom 2016, of course he's gonna be requested, it was a reboot.
Bring me to 404. Also, FPS began to gain popularity at this era,it was litteraly their golden age, (Doom, Quake, Half-life, Duke Nukem, GoldenEye, and many others clones i couldn't tell) Then, it led to Halo,Medal of Honor, COD, Battlefield etc...

He's only been getting threads and rabid supporters since a few months ago, he's from a pretty much Western exclusive M-rated game with little success on Nintendo consoles. He's a meme pick.

You are just repeating yourself at this point.
>Western
Banjo-Kazooie
>M-rated
Bayonetta and MGS
>Little sucess on Nintendo consoles
Persona and What is Doom 64 ?
At this point, you are just rulefagging.

>Banjo Kazooie
Popular in Japan
>M-rated
Led to them being butchered by censors
>little success on Nintendo consoles
Doom 64 wasn't all that successful, and SMT4 and Persona Q sold very decently on 3DS.

People who honestly want him in Smash (myself included) learned to taper our expectations and accept that, while we still want him, it just wouldn't benefit either Nintendo or Square in the long run.

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Honestly, i don't think there's any rules against Doom Guy, but i still think he's kind of a weird choice that probably won't happen.

Persona Q2, the one that actually features Joker, bombed like hell even in Japan.

Maybe for Smash 6...

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Is SMRPG a good game? I never played it.

Yeah I feel like it held up prety well.

>Banjo-Kazooie popular in Japan
What...
>Led to them being butchered by censors
No ? They work perfectly fine. Of course it doesn't have blood.
>SMT4 and Persona Q sold very decently on 3ds
Like Doom 64 ? I mean, both sold a bit more but that's because 3DS had the Double of sales compared to N64, so Doom 64 solding 470 000 copy, in a console overshadowed by PS1 and Doom 64 overshadowed by Quake, it was better than expected.

It was a great gateway RPG, and as a standalone game it's still very playable.

If you like Paper Mario 1 and 2, you'll probably love Mario RPG.

As a kid, it was magical and will always hold a special place many gamers hearts.

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Try it out, it aged incredibly well. An amazing game and one of the best Mario RPG games out there. Plus it's not too long, you can probably beat it in a week or so depending on your pace and how much free time you've got.

I don't deny that, im also kinda expecting him to not be in, but Nintendo sayed that picks would be surprising, so i dunno, it was something i wanted since Brawl.

Didn't BK sell 2 million copies in Japan alone?

>2 millions
Holy shit, no, way less than that.
I mean, i won't consider him popular, he may have some decent sold but he didn't appeal to japanese gamers overall. If we would take a western mascot character that is popular in Japan, it would be Crash.

Alright, time to snag a rom and check it out then.

>BK isn't popular in Japan
You're reaching bro

Ok, turns out it was only 400k units. still a decent number though

That's about 10 times the entire Doom franchises' sales in Japan.

Seems like the Geno meme is almost totally dead now. Finally. It wasn't even funny in the first place.

Yes and Steveposters still shit their pastas out

Still doesn't mean he's popular, everyone is agreeing that Banjo was for the West and Dragon Quest for the East. If they wanted to please both side equally, they should a put Crash. And again, PC is niche in Japan, Doom sales are innacurate due to Shareware and stuff, but still, you'll see a Doom community in Japan, not big for sure, but it exist and its bigger than Banjo Kazooie. Source: (I know its google trend, but just to give you an idea.) trends.google.fr/trends/explore?geo=JP&q=/m/0d7_l1,/m/05szy_d

Doom is on consoles too. The "PC gaming is not as popular in Japan" argument falls flat.

The Japs just don't care about Doom.

PC is niche in Japan, alongside with FPS (and maybe RTS ? Whatever) . People prefer to play Doom on PC, for obvious reason, i think that applies the same for Japaneses, Doom 64 being a exception and just to say that Id and Nintendo had history. So yeah, Pc gaming ane Fps is more niche in Japan yet still important to video game industry.

yeah, it's good

>A fucking spirit.

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Yeah, he's a Star Spirit, what about it?

Real talk, why the fuck is Banjo playable? He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise

Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy, but this ugly bear who has only 5 games, 2 of which weren't even in Japan gets to be playable?

Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this

You think we can at least get his Mii outfit back? I mean he made it as a spirit so why not

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To appease the audience. Banjo-Kazooie has been one of the most requested characters to be in Smash, even since the first game. In fact, after Smash 64 a poll was handed to Japanese players to choose what first-party characters they wanted to see in the sequel, Banjo ended up eight out of almost 40

eighth place I mean

It's probably coming back.

>who has over 70 games mind you
Army Men has way more, and you don't see their green plastic asses in Smash.

Doom 2016 only sold 50k units in Japan

I got Banjo I dont give a fuck anymore

A video of Megalovania has also been taken down by Nintendo
I wish we'd get SMRPG music in Smash but Square isn't that based and it means fuckall

Still here, still waiting. But most of us love the additions to the roster like Hero, Ridley, Simon, and K Rool. I know we'll get his Mii costume back, but I am hoping for him playable, too.

Fuck you traitor. You are obligated to help Geno, your fellow never ever brother.

spirits hurt. a lot.

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