Is this guy the biggest cancer when it comes to jrpg's?

Absolutely not. He's been mismanaged to hell and back. And even so, (pic related in) was mismanaged too.

Here's my attempt at filling in all the blanks in between each line of 's post--here in (pic related).

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Why SE put a drafag for the role of director?

Tabata largely mismanaged the project himself, granted he only had 4 years (3 since he completely took over), but he made huge game altering decisions that dramatically delayed development as he overestimated his team's capabilities and the problems he would face with Luminous.

Forcing the team to go full open world despite them disagreeing, telling them it's okay if it's empty as long as it's open world cause they need to compete with the west, then cutting half the game out and removing a shitload of cutscenes already shown, changing designs for no reason, removing characters entirely, shoving the game's prologue in a movie, making a multiplayer expansion instead of a much needed offline one (could have added Cartanica back in the game, include Gralea etc etc).

Tabata was thrown in a tough situation which was also his biggest chance at becoming the next Sakaguchi as he was called "the savior of FF" by misinformed fans and journalists, yet he squandered this chance due to his own greediness and ego to make XV something that would 100% have the Tabata stamp on it by erasing almost every trace of Nomura.

when is this man going to stop doing mobile games? is he too busy with his music career?

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While I can say that I agree with you, user, it still seems to me that he was much more of a cog in the greater machine that was SE mismanagement.

Whether it was trying to West-ify the game's mechanics to broaden the audience and thus to increase sales potential, or whether it was trying to simplify the game's story to broaden the audience and thus increase sales potential, it seemed to me that if Tabata didn't want to risk 'killing the franchise' and potentially the entire JRPG franchise, he had no choice but to capitulate to the demands from higher-ups that (rightfully) feared for the franchise's sustainability and do as he was told.

Yes.

Never. Modern game dev is too much for him.

Best thing that came out of XV (besides Cindy)
youtube.com/watch?v=Cq3oqWa-k50&t=331s

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Darkest timeline; Took a shot with The last story, modern videogames "industry" didn't repay him well.

Wasn't that praised? It just didn't make money.

That belongs to Tabata, Yoshi-P two of the biggest hacks at Square Enix.

i only hate the fact that people whine because SE went balls deep into action rpgs with FF and ask for Sakaguchi to return and bring back ATB when Sakaguchi himself went balls deep into ARPGs right after Blue Dragon
>arpg blue dragon on DS
>CryOn arpg for 360, canceled by Microshit
>The Last Story arpg

That’s not Matsuno and his boring, pretentious political intrigue no one gives a fuck about.

he had the backing from both Microsoft and Nintendo but his console games never took off (they're good games but nothing groundbreaking). Now nobody wants to finance high budget stuff from him. Probably never gonna deliver the promised console Terra Battle

user, if Nomura's vision of Versus were made tangible as vXIII or XV, it would have been the only other single-player Final Fantasy that could've gone toe-to-toe with XII, let's be real.

Terra Wars didn't look like a "console" game either way so even if it was made it would be nothing like what people want from him.

Too busy making sick beats

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Ahem *ting ting ting ting ting*
A-AHEM *ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting*

I THINK TABATA SUCKS
>turns the best FF game since FFXII into a GTA bro trip sim
>has literally NO sense of tone, soul, taste or music except for the Versus
>FFXV ships as a LITERALLY unfinished game
>All DLC cancelled and Tabata is BTFO by Square after losing $33 million thanks to Luminous
>Which, by the way, is CONFIRMED still working on a PS5 exclusive
>Nomura CONFIRMED reviving Versus XIII and teasing us with Verum Rex, which is, in Nomura's words a separate project in spite of many visual similarities though singlehandedly ruining any and all XV discourse through his own salt

Lmao completely fucking anally devastated, not long before XV-kun, Barry, Bazztek, @_Bazztek, psxotaku, MercilessV, MGamingLive, Zeal, those Discord Discucks and all the other dumbfuck LARPer FifTOIDS are finally put in their place. We won the long game Versus lads or shall I say Versus CHADS.

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Maybe if Square-Enix actually fostered directorial talent instead of chasing them all away, they wouldn't have this problem.

He's fine in and of himself but needs to be retired already. You can just see it in how he dressed, how incredibly outdated him and his design choices are.

this is a better image for your shitpost

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>Verum Rex
what the fuck it this?

Nomura was literally denied the opportunity to save JRPGs though

Matsuno left the project part-way through production. The actual director was Hiroyuki Ito, the same as VI and IX.

he is wearing Roen shit all the time, they're top of the line and super to date in Japan, learn to accept that other cultures have difference standards

"Outdated" is a compliment in the modern gaming industry.

It's this

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Left looks better except Noctis, glad they didn't go with the Sasuke copy

Google tells me it's Toy Story.

it's a trailer that appeared on toy story's world, then was shown to be an actual thing in KH3's secret ending, then Nomura confirmed it's going to be a thing in KH3's ultimania interview

No, he is usually just doing character design. The main problems stem from SE mismanagement.

Huh. Looks okay. Wish it looked less like KH aesthetically, though.

Yes fuck him and his ethics department. Absolute cuck. He also made kingdom hearts cancer fans that want to dump FF into their childish level.

He helped made TWEWY so he’s alright in my book.

he helped keep TWEWY alive too, he is literally the only one who kept giving a shit about TWEWY since 2008, creating celebratory art for it every year since its release, forcing it into DDD, trying to kickstart a sequel constantly and asking fans to support the re-releases etc etc

Haha, I don't really know.

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Square seriously needs to let him and his team work on that sequel already. You can tell that the poor man wants to get back to it.

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Yeah but FF is marketed to a global audience. No other japanese game leans like it was designed by 11th graders in 2007. This is specifically a thing with this guy.

>No other japanese game leans like it was designed by 11th graders in 2007
objectively incorrect

He has a music career?

That's the tragedy; a damn good game (albeit painfully short) from a person known for making great RPGs can't get enough money back to absorb and keep doing real games.

TWEWY doesn't need a sequel, Nomura touching it is a red flag on anything. Anyone wanting a sequel is having a nostalgia attack of the bad kind.

The game was great, but it is really hard to replicate or even getting close. A spiritual successor with another brand is more fit for it imo.

>No shit game with Masuda & Nomura team.
Imagine the trainwreck

The full commercial:
youtu.be/_RRefXawjnM

Compare that with this:
youtu.be/9mTDTVlbmHk

Sauce:
finalfantasyunion.com/news/3479/takashi-katano-says-yasumi-matsunos-departure-didnt-change-much-in-final-fantasy-xii/

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>This is specifically a thing with this guy
LOL

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>the director leaving didn't have an impact on the game
Like so many Japanese developers, he's bullshitting to damage control. I don't believe him for a second.

Also you're a disgusting namefag and you should kill yourself.

The right is clearly not attempting to come off as practical, while Noctis looks like what I'd assume a 14 year old would pick out if he had unlimited options.

It was always going to be a lowkey FFXV/KH3 thread, wasn't it? But honestly fuck FFXV. I keep trying to get back into it on the PC version and it's just such a fucking slog if I want to complete any hunts or sidequests, even with chocobos or fast travel. I don't know why I put myself through this after I already beat the game at launch in 2016, and the promised mod tools are abandoned now because of Tabata taking the dev team to fuck off to paraplegic olympics mobile games.

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Thanks for your input

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Thats Square Enix in general

Hey, even if I die from suicide, at least I won't go down in history as the user who posted CP and gorn just to get their thread closed, or the user who threatened to rape someone he had doxxed in a prior thread to 'win' at shitposting.

Oh, wait. Aren't those anons one and the same............................?

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looks sort of cool but like I said the fucking KH aesthetic kills it for me, hopefully it doesn't look like that when they actually make it

He left because Square execs tried to have too much control into the game's development. They told him to add Vaan all for the sake of marketability because they think a younger MC would “resonate better with the fans” instead of a properly written one. There's also other things that pissed him off that he finally snapped and said fuck this shit and left the company. Fresly merged SquareEnix was so bad, that for an entire decade or two they had mismanaged every big projects that they made one by one. The biggest one is XIV.

Verum Rex will be a world in the next KH game. So yeah, it will have “KH aesthetics”.

disappointing but not surprising

Square Enix as a whole is a shitshow save for Yoko Taro.

he's the best guy there is.

Oh, but anons, Versus and Verum Rex are different according to (pic related). Here's one user's attempt at substantiating Nomura's statement.

Taken from boards.fireden.net/v/thread/462809835/#q462810750
What they said:
>Verum Rex isn't Versus--Nomura said so. And you'll say 'but he's only saying that to get out of trouble!', but oh boy, it's much more complicated than that.

>Versus was the most realistic Final Fantasy installment in terms of its setting and world design, which lean toward a more modern aesthetic than fantasy or science fiction. ...
>It's literally the opposite of that now. Versus had more focus on the political and "ugly realities of the world" and there was a dark almost tragic tone that was really subtle but very present which was nice.
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/373508463/#q373527283

>Nomura literally created it as a counterpoint to the direction of XIII (hence the title Versus XIII) and all of the trailers and layered with personal statements, his final trailer is literally an obscured goodbye message and statement that got him in trouble with SE's management.
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/409103115/#q409115168

>There's no way something like this would be possible under Disney--Nomura would either have to create an entirely new IP just to address these themes (which, in themselves, are incompatible with FFVIIR), or revive the Versus project.

>For this reason, Verum Rex can never be Versus XIII. VR isn't informed by the issues that drive vXIII's narrative and only serves as a fun encapsulation of /what Nomura wants/ in /his/ games.

>With discussion surrounding what could have been even reaching Akio Oofuji (the current brand FFXV director) on the ATR a year and a few months back, Nomura has no other option but to bring back Versus--that is, if he wants to.

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KH aesthetic is one of the best. your taste is trash

imagine REEing so hard to type all of this

Am I the only individual who thinks Nomura is a damn MORON for doing this? Allow to explain. The contract for Kingdom Hearts goes like this:

"All original creations for Kingdom Hearts belong to Disney."

There is no previous copyright for this Verum Rex thing. So by default Disney owns this as well. Nomura lashed out in anger towards Square Enix and now he's put himself in a situation where Disney can tell him "Golly ha ha! This is mine now too Nomura."

Unless Nomura doesn't care and just wants to create the experience he always wanted to create, but I doubt that.

It was completely overshadowed by xenoblade

unless Verum Rex is already an IP that SE owns but hasn't announced yet and was just added to KH3 in the same way TWEWY and FF characters did.

As he said, Verum Rex "doesn't exist yet", yet implies that it will be a thing in the future, that doesn't mean concepts and rights for it don't already exist.

Worst case scenario, Verum Rex is a kingdom hearts spin off with its own plot, world and story and will share a universe with KH.

Disney would love to have a slightly more mature and darker video game series in their lineup.

do japs even have eyelashes? wtf

You're definitely full of wishful thinking, that's for sure. Source needed on "he's lashing out" as the cause for Verum Rex existing

FFXV is shit, was shit, and forever will be shit and there's NOTHING Nomura could've or would've done to make not shit.

this honestly. Nomura has never directed a good game outside the original KH, his writing is also perhaps the worst in the industry. He does best as a producer/character designer

>his writing is also perhaps the worst in the industry
tabata, kitase, and toriyama disagree with you when it comes to The Third Birthday

the entire KH series is pretty much the third birthday stretched out over 10+ games except it has the addition of gay friendship and heart shit. Only toriyama wrote for third birthday out of those three and yes toriyama is also really bad

KH writing isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's just filled with Kojima levels of terminology and self-referential shit alongside Disney levels of childish cheese.

KH writing is fucking abhorrent, I played through 1.5+2.5 to catch up for 3 and it was a big mistake, the story is nonsense with asspulls that have to be explained in future games except they add new asspulls and the cycle repeats. The way nomura writes is agonizing as well with putrid dialogue, tt was even worse in 3

>Nomura has never directed a good game outside the original KH
kh2, kh3, CoM, BBS and DDD are all good games you absolute retard, they don't have to be 10/10 masterpieces to be good.

I hate retards like you who think a game can only either be 0/10 shit or 10/10 great.

Eh, maybe. Kingdom Hearts is his baby, but KH3 is a neutered mess, probably due to excessive corporate faggotry on Disney's part of course. His real proving grounds is gonna be the FF7 Remake, but with this whole censored Tifa "ethics department" (Sony California SJW HQ demands) thing going on, he's still gonna have to deal with corporate faggotry and have his vision of the game tampered with on some level.

If what is left after the corporate faggotry is a good, solid game, then he basically proves that he can deliver as the head of a game project even now.

most fans that aren't fanboys will agree that 3 was a mess of shit trying to end everything as soon as possible so that Nomura could focus on FF7R and his damn phone game plotline, but honestly? KH is disney shonen. Naruto and Bleach had way more abysmal writing by that standard, KH is paltry compared to the garbage i've witnessed.

>KH2
shit outside of the super bosses on critical mode, less than 10% of the game
>kh3
shit, DLC yet to be judged
>CoM
This is actually pretty OK too, at least gameplay wise. It's where the story horseshit started
>BBS
awful game. Terrible combat and when the story REALLY got bad
>DDD
bad combat, slightly better than BBS. Story at this point is complete nonsense with the addition of time travel

>I hate retards like you who think a game can only either be 0/10 shit or 10/10 great.

No KH game is a 0, but sure as shit none are a 10 either

Can you really blame Nomura? I mean who else is left at SE?

>Tabata was thrown in a tough situation which was also his biggest chance at becoming the next Sakaguchi as he was called "the savior of FF" by misinformed fans and journalists, yet he squandered this chance due to his own greediness and ego to make XV something that would 100% have the Tabata stamp on it by erasing almost every trace of Nomura.
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH HOLY SHIT. Tabata was so obsessed with distancing everything Nomura did for this game and it's the reason the game ending up being so shit. If something could be changed, he changed it. Regardless of whether or not he needed to. He even said that, given the opportunity, he would've changed the main cast as well. All he had to do was finish the project, but his greed was his own downfall. also I can't think of a single change that was actually improvement

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I still don’t know how a character designer was given so many directorial roles.

Nomura is not a writer, he came up with the original concept and someone (Nojima) wrote it for him. He also helped in the scenario and FF7 and 8. Make of that what you will.

he did change the 4 main characters, in an interview with 4gamers he said that when he first took over he didn't like the characters and especially Noctis and Prompto, so he along with a team of 10 people or so changed their characters and attitudes into something more "human" as he called it, cause he said that Noctis previously was more like "a hero symbol" or something, Noctis in VsXIII was also going to use his phone to take pictures but he took that characteristic and put it on Prompto instead to make him more likeable.

Noct's JP VA also said that he still has VsXIII's scripts at home and that Noct was a dramatically different character to the point that he had to take a break for a while and had extensive talks with production members to help him adjust since he was voicing Noctis differently before that point. He noted that Noct in VsXIII had a more gruff voice compared to how they told him to portray him in XV and that he used to be more ruthless and cold towards other people outside of his bros.

Btw Tabata REALLY didn't want to make XV, when he took over he said that at first he wanted to make the game an MMO with online co-op with each player controlling a party member and going through the story together. This is why he made comrades later, so he pretty much wanted XV to be comrades but SE didn't let him which is why he had to settle with the expansion.

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I know but he would've made more drastic changes if hidden the option. He even mentioned that they wanted to change all their outfits but couldn't because of the Roen contact. That's probably why all the Insomnia scenes have all their suits covered in cloaks instead of their original designs

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regarding that, why did he put the cloak over Noct's suit?

I was so fucking mad about that especially since older Noct in his fight with Ardyn wears just the suit, without the cloak, so the outfit was already in the game. I can't see any reason for not making it perma available for younger Noct except spitting in the face of Versus fans.

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>why did he put the cloak over Noct's suit?
Because he's legitimately retarded and had no sense of design. Also I really hate how lazy the old designs were. Noctis just for a bigger head and everyone else busy for a beard. They couldn't be bothered to change the actual body at all and they all look terrible as a result.

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Based

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XV under Nomura would've been way better, even kh3 ended up better in every single way than Tabata's XV despite having Disney nazis meddling with it.

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>Noctis in VsXIII was also going to use his phone to take pictures
And we all know how else he was going to use that phone in-game, am I right?

Noctis: my star, you up?
Stella: Noctis-sama, this phone is tapped and you know it!
Noctis: there would be cameras following our every move and it wouldn't change the fact that i love you
Noctis: and that i
Noctis: uh
Noctis: miss you
Stella: Noctis-sama...
Noctis: quick
Noctis: uhhh
Noctis: show me your boobs
Stella: ...Well, \Noctis-sama\, if you insist--*lifts up shirt and snaps a pic*

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>Noctis: quick
>Noctis: uhhh
>Noctis: show me your boobs

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>despite their faults, Osaka still managed to produce a game with better combat than Tokyo under Tabata leadership
Imagine fucking up this badly

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Woah, it's so shiny and there's a cutscene if you mash the button!

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As opposed to? There's literally nothing wrong with that WEBM

how about actual depth

Yes, Nomura is a hack, and I can't believe he's the one directing the FFVII Remake. He has such a retarded understanding of the characters it's unreal (see pic-related, bottom right). Also, 90% of his character designs suck. They're usually overdesigned, fetishised trash.

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he has perfect understanding since he partially wrote the story of the original, you just played a retarded translation of the game that missed the point and filled the script with garbage like "let's mosey" and "$$%$^&##@^&".

It's why so many retards are complaining that Cloud's catch phrase post ff7 has been the edgy "not interested" line when it was always there and Cloud kept saying it repeatedly in the Japanese script.

>No KH game is a 0, but sure as shit none are a 10 either

imagine proving someones point this much

He's definitely one of the worst

No! I understand Nomura's characters better than Nomura!

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XV belongs in the garbage

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The Best Part Of These Threads Is The Versus 13 Babies Still Crying All These Years Later

Better Hope Remind Is Good And That Nomura Actually Is Allowed To Make Verum Rex Cuz That's All You Guys Have Now

FF7R Looks Cool, Midgar Being One Game Makes That An Easy Pass For Me Until We Learn About The Rest (Or Rather When SE Figures Out The Rest The Incompetent Fools) But Maybe You Guys Can Pretend It's Insomnia Until Verum Rex Or More Likely When You Go To The Verum Rex World In The Next KH Game ON SWITCH AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>The Best Part
Stopped reading, stop capitalizing the first letter of every word you autistic nigger.

I want it on record that the translated FFVII is infinitely better no matter how its birth came to pass and it will always be VII for me. Same goes for Woolsey's VI.

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Keep crying bitch nigga

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It's nothing to do with the ENG translation. Nomura even said that Cloud was a "positive upbeat" character at the end of FFVII but they decided to make him emo because it's the laziest fucking excuse for a character arc. The same way Vincent was emo again in Dirge of Cerberus despite settling his guilt in the OG.

can we please post a video of kh3's combat being good outside this fucking boss? I like the combat but nobody fucking does that shit

Here you go youtu.be/1Yf6gWN8zBo

Funnily enough, my favourite designs from Nomura over the last few years aren't even from a Square developed game.

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The real truth is that neither of these guys is the problem, since Tabata could direct good games when they were his from the start, and Nomura does well if Kitase is there to guide his creative outlet. It's when the higher ups start putting people every which way and have them try to finish each other's works that you have problems.

Kitase is in reality the actual director, as it should be.

literally who

He's fucking sick of FF and KH this much should be obvious.

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NEED MORE BELTS

He isn't Baba or the Lightning obsessed Toriyama. So no.

> Tabata could direct good games when they were his from the start

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Oh, hello, Taka-P! May I just--*casually steals your job and lets your former director just do what he does best also known as THE ENTIRE GODDAMN RELIC QUESTLINE*

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Tabata making mobile game now?

paralympic games rpg for mobile phones, yes

No, as far as Squeenix goes he's a mild failure at worst and product of shitty circumstances at best, but he IS a terrible fanfic-tier writer and should never write anything ever again.

>sick of KH
>deliberately put tease and cliffhangers for more to come

>Kojima was sick of MGS
>was forced to keep making them
Devs aren't in charge user, if there is demand they're obligated to make them, especially if they are the ones who created the IP, even if they're tired and hate working on them, they hate other people messing with their creations even more so they can't even say no.

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>as far as Squeenix goes he's a mild failure at worst
he literally created one of their most successful franchises (KH) and responsible for one of their biggest flagship titles (FF7 Re)
>and product of shitty circumstances at best
which is entirely SquareEnix management's fault and not his own

He's not going anywhere.

>Best selling SE series
>Final Fantasy: 144 million (54 titles)
>Dragon Quest: 78 million[1] (29 titles)
>Tomb Raider: 74 million (30 titles)
>Kingdom Hearts: 31 million (9 titles)

>31 million copies with only 9 titles
>only 3 of those are mainline AAA entries

They're going to milk the fuck out of KH aren't they?

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>they're going to
They already have, why do you think we've had several handheld-first games that were almost all plot important and significant scattered across both Sony and Nintendo handhelds haphazardly, on top of a successful mobile game?

That's because Tokyo team was busy working on XIII, VsXIII and XIV to work on a console KH game and they didn't want to let the series die by letting an entire decade pass by without a single KH game.

XV under Nomura would have never come out.

Followed by ryozo and yoko taro

>still blaming Nomura after so many years
The truth has already been revealed zoomy

Part 1 of XV under Nomura was scheduled to release in mid 2014 before Matsuda decided he didn't want it to be a trilogy set in the FNC. You would have played a better XV way sooner than you played the shitty FFXV.

nigger

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>Hack businessman who puts his name on other people's work can barely get by with mobile shit after he nearly sinks two companies with his incompetence
We've seen this before.

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>shit outside of the super bosses on critical mode, less than 10% of the game
pure regurgitated opinion, those fights use the same fucking mechanics as the rest of the game, if you think those are fun then there's no reason you shouldn't enjoy the rest to some extent.

>I hate you because you think games are only 0s or 10s
>no kingdom hearts game is a 0 or a 10
>haha you proved my point :^)

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