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I'll send my regards to your kangaroo wife!

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Remember when mad milk scouts with overheal had 225 hp?

Thanks mate!

>lol I won't heal scouts
>k i'll just take the med kit
>SCOUT YOU FUCKING NIGGER YOU STOLE MY MED KIT LIKE THE JEWS STOLE MY MONEY , I CAN'T HEAL MYSELF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, i WOULD HAVE JUST HEALED YOU

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No one plays this game anymore, faggots. Except poor BRs and white trash losers

Milkman pre-nerf was best scout setup.

this is true
source: im both of those

remember the sandman + guillotine combo

those were the days

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I still miss it

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they should give demo a glock

I wonder what tom and jib got now that it split

ah yes the most broken melee weapon to have ever existed

>they should give demo the shotgun for a bit.
remember when the MvM trailer came out and Yea Forums thought the demoman was getting a shotgun because the heavy threw him one in the cinematic

Valve barely even updates TF2 even when they update it. Most of the Jungle Inferno update wasn't even made by Valve. They just don't give a shit about TF2 anymore despite TF2 being one of the best team shooters out there for so many years

i don't, shit was dumb as fuck.
even after the split the escape plan is still dumb as fuck since there's no melee damage reduction, so you can zoom around and crit everything.

>pipe someone
>25 hp left
>don't want to waste another pipe
>too far to melee them
>don't use the sticky launcher cause I'm not a shitter
>get killed thinking about it

I would honestly want a side weapon for demo like a glock.

Ubersaw.

>nerf it
>split it
>nerf it again
>still one of the best soldier melee weapons to exist
Based as fuck

Jungle Inferno

I wish the split made the Equalizer keep it's original texture and the Escape Plan turned into a white flag.

>huntsman is OP because the hit box is big
>rocket launcher splashes and has 4 shots
>soldier also gets more HP and a shotgun

Why are shitters so mad at skill?

what could they even add at this point? how do you improve perfection?

>>don't use the sticky launcher cause I'm not a shitter
shitter detected

when a scout calls for a medic at full hp he wants you to buff him. he's going to leave and fight anyways and it takes half a second.

huntsman is faster, has no fall off, can one shot every class, and uses the projectile hitboxes.
it's not OP since the sniper rifle is straight up better, but it is stupid that you can do 120 damage to someone who is on the other side of the map with a projectile.

Asshole.

This, I absolutely hate medics that don't buff the team.

which encompasses like 99% of medics.
I also hate medics that keep healing the retard that doesn't back off when i'm ready for crit heals.

is it even possible to play sniper without the razorback

you can do 100 damage with a pipe to someone on the other side of the map. with minicrits soldier rockets can do 135 on the other side of the map.

I'll agree that the close range headshots are strong, but thats the only thing making it viable because you're just 100% dead if you miss.

Shup up, medics are only under the obligation to uber heavys, if any other faggots gets some free uber that's just a plus, not an obligation.

is nice

Don't hardscope. Play for a while and then shit on the enemy team. Switch to razor back when you feel like the enemy team went on their "spy main".

you can also stand near allies and just feel out when a spy is going to divebomb backstab you.

pipes have an arc and limited range since they explode, so they're next to impossible to actually hit at that distance.

Just snipe by hitting both m1 and m2 wildly in the direction of the target's heads and never stay scoped for longer than a second

*since they explode after 2 seconds

unironically buff your scouts on your team to like 160 or something
it really helps

pipes have obscene range against groups of people. You can hit someone next to the preferred target and do 100 damage to both of them. I would honestly say on average they have better range than a huntsman, being a lot easier to aim mid range.

Huntsman is only good at long range if
A. the opponent stands still
B. is unaware of you (which means they're walking in one direction)
C. running through a bottle neck, where they are unaware they will be unable to dodge your arrow

It's realistically only long ranged against enemy snipers.

Retard

>You can hit someone next to the preferred target and do 100 damage to both of them
that's not how it works,
the only one who will take 100 is the target that got hit directly. people caught in the splash will be taking around 50-60

Yes, I turn around after every shot and change positions frequently. Razorback is a crutch for shit snipers.

They could rebalance some of the literally useless weapons we have.

>people caught in the splash will be taking around 50-60

I've seen 70 minimum typically. 50 is at the far edge of the splash, like bare minimum. You have to remember that you always deal 100 damage because it lacks fall off, so it does way more splash than rockets.

Med actually does heal himself...

not with the medigun, he regenerates like a troll.

If a soldier is zooming around with the escape plan, he's literally one hit away from death. What's your excuse for being unable to hit him once?

>turn around
>no spies
>look back at the battle
>CnD who has been sitting behind you for 5 minutes uncloaks and stabs you

>doesn't immediately turn around when he hears the decloak sound

>Doesn't immediately turn around when his spyder senses kick in

Seriously it should be intuition at this point.

As a scout main I don't really give a fuck about an extra 60 HP, just make sure to heal me to full or just over when I'm near and we good

Uh-ooh, I'm sorry but I don't give a fuck.

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>he doesn't know

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it's not hard to hit him, but that doesn't change the fact that it should still have reduced melee damage since it's just flat out better than the equalizer, the weapon that's supposed to make you a bigger melee threat when you have low health.

>entire team walks away while you do this
>that one enemy player walks up to you
>Patiently waits until you're done
>kills you when you start jumping around

Stock Scout is the most honest class in the game

>in the middle of doing something else
>suddenly get the feeling im about to die
>turn around
>spy pokes my face

FaN scout is the most fun class in the game.

That's a problem with the equalizer, not the escape plan.

Tell that to the people who fucking rage their assholes out at me. Seriously a god-tier scout is a salt miner extraordinaire, more salt than the dead sea.

such as....

I still think about that one time I was about to kill a sniper as scout and a medic suddenly appeared and Kritzed him. He pulled out his smg and I got BTFO

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>go pyro and kill "god tier scout"
>you just went pyro cause you're mad
>no I just wanted to kill you

I'm getting sick of medics ubering me and then dropping uber.
>inb4 they're flashing me

nah I'm litterally the only one there

>”dood leave medkits for the medics”
>medics health naturally regenerates

What’s the point?

Off the top of my head, every jungle inferno weapon, the sandman, and the righteous bison.

literally me, except I sandman 'em first

>Scout worth their salt being killed by a wm1
In reality they'd save their double jump to avoid the airblast trap, stay out of your thrower's range, and you're dead in 2-3 scatter hits. Even if you airblast me in the air I can just hit you with the pistol. IMO you never played a scout who knows their shit. It's okay just stick with pyro bro, I'm sure if you can't play for shit you'll get a kill eventually :^)

Instant 75-150hp >>> 6hp/sec

Huntsman hasn't had a huge hitbox since like 2013
iirc the cleaver has the huntsman's old hitbox

>scorch shots you
>toasts you a bit while you get knocked in a predictible pattern
>walks away while you run for a health kit

*mmphing mmfersonal mmido"

Medic's health regen is slow as fuck.
He can also heal others far faster than he regenerates, so ideally you let the medic take the health pack and then he heals you to full and you have two players at full HP rather than one.

aim around the neck's general area then scope in

>Side mouse button bound to Dispenser Here
>Spam it as Heavy

no, that's a problem with the escape plan.
when it comes to melee and combat in general, the faster you are, the better off you are, so in most scenarios, the escape plan is better, since you can avoid damage more easily, and match the damage of the equalizer thanks to random crits.

lol

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Remember when the soda popper was good

>medic can heal you and gain uber
>medic doesn't die because hes full health instantly

>good scouts close enough to a pyro to get hit by scorch shot
you're only proving his point

That ching-chong hung lao minigun. Direct downgrade and has nothing to offer, flames are basically useless.

No they fell victim yo shit design so balanced it mode

that annoys the shit out of me
had a game yesterday where a medic stopped ubering me and I turn around and he's healing a fucking enemy spy who then stabbed our engie

If you're far enough to not get hit by scorch, I'd just shoot next to you and pressure you to run away or come towards me.

Scouts can't do shit against scorch shot, unless they get in the pyros face immediately when he pulls it out.

Is stock medic an honest class?

>t. I kill shit scouts so I'm GOD
BTW it's always pyros who rage the hardest no exceptions

wanna try that again?

regen is much slower immediately after taking damage

The arrow hitbox itself is smaller but it still uses the projectile hitboxes which are fucking huge.

>its the casual pyro that rages
>not the try hard scouts that get ganked by a pyro shitter

lmaoing at your life limey.

>Scouts can't do shit against scorch shot
Harass you with pistol while dodging the scorch
If hit by scorch eat it and continue harassing until low HP
9/10 you will back off unless you have tunnel vision

>2 shots you
>casually jogs to medkit while still at 100 hp
nothing personnel, kid

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I mean it could be okay if you're on payload attack and you have a competent detonator pyro assisting you. Not that that's likely to happen but it is an option.

>t. pyro who bases his entire pyro strat against scouts

>I'd just shoot next to you
>run away or come towards me
user there are more dimensions than that

is TF2 considered boomercore?

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I can scorch shot you around corners, and have more spalsh than a sticky with a 3000 hu projectile.

so? a soldier can reliably deal with scouts, you're just some faggot

No bud

Why do pyros piss people off so easilly?

If TF2 is boomer, then what's TFC?

>Engineer starts hitting you with a wrench because he thinks youre actually asking for a dispenser and he already has one

>projectile hitboxes on primary
soft no

Even if you did that, it's still a net gain for me as you're doing basically fucking nothing, leaving my team free to worry about other things

Doesn't change the fact scouts shit on pyros for 12 years now

>a soldier can reliably deal with scouts

this 100%

I want the medic to fuck me

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Revert Ambassador nerf, make the Enforcer better, give spy a new disguise kit, revert the Dead Ringer

t. spy main

>implying I'm not scorching them while I deny you from moving forward

It's a class who does not require aiming and who walks forward while holding down mouse for a free 150 DPS or something + afterburn

I wonder why people think dying to a retard isn't annoying

All other classes have actual mechanical skill involved, pyro does not

>I'll beat you with this
>But not if I do this first
>No see I can do this to counter that
Literally sound like children. This isn't a card game, this is a FPS with a ton of different factors, even the simplest of encounters can be affected by unlimited variables.

Because nobody expects the lost gibus pyro that's right around that corner where the health pack is

>he dies to a fucking pyro

Lol I can just go elsewhere and do scout shit, you're stuck in a box or around a corner somewhere PLUS scorch shot is easy to dodge

>crossbow now heals over time as the same rate as the medigun
y/n?

what do you expect from scout and pyro mains?

Tomber

The weapon is now pointless, just equip the syringe gun that makes you run faster in that case

The problem is even if you nerfed the escape plan, the equalizer would still be shit for it's supposed intended role because
a) increased melee damage honestly means fuck all when you're really relying on instant-kill crits to win you melee fights in the first place and
b) as you've pointed out speed is very important in melee, so the second slowest class in the game isn't going to be waddling into any melee fights, especially when his HP is low enough to get any meaningful amount of increased melee damage from the equalizer. This is why literally every soldier uses either the escape plan, the disciplinary action, or the market gardener.
Nerfing the escape plan isn't going to make the equalizer any more appealing because the equalizer is shit.

No just remove the free uber build

Yes they can, the only caveat is if the scout has the high ground, then it's slightly in favour of the scout

Until the soldier rocket jumps

>only source of ranged healing in the game
>pointless

Crossbow and Amputator are the best Medic sidearms.

I dont get why I'm the only one who ever uses the AoE healing taunt while standing with my back to a corner.

You're probably not paying attention.
Either you ARE getting flashed, or your not paying attention to a pyro behind you airblasting the medic away.

I don't understand why everyone fucking hated the old cross bow before it had uber build. Yet now that they essentially removed it, its still the must use.

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If it does the same healing as the medigun then just move faster to get in range to apply the healing beam

Why waste time with the crossbow

Stun = shit

>no user it has to be you that's bad

why are you so negative?

>Still cant stop my pizza hands from constantly Cheering, Jeering, Battle crying, Positive, Negative and everything in between
It's just so much fun being a loud asshole and taunting both the enemy and your own team constantly

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Yes they can reliably deal with scouts just as scouts can reliably deal with soldiers. Ultimately it depends on terrain and player skill. With you lacking the latter.

airblast makes me so immensely mad, far more than w+m1

I wish I could get more angry responses like this.

I can only make people rage quit by going Machina Sniper and default taunting after bodyshots.

theres still a ton of stuns in the game, sandman shouldn't remove you from first person, but it should stop you from shooting

you now realize that in any multiplayer game in 2019, the guy who led this guy to ragequit would probably be banned first for using taunts and "harassment".

It was still overpowered even before that was added

my experience using amputator taunt
>my teammates run away and I die
>a kamikaze pyro hugs me before dying
>I get hit with random crit splash

>soldier rocket jumping through the map
>me, scout, sitting in some forsaken corner in the middle of nowhere
>see him whirr past in slow motion
>shoot him with scattergun
>knock him completely offcourse and force him to find a healthkit
I may have been functionally useless until that point but the wait was worth it

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>Sniper headshots someone
>Push Nice Shot button on mouse
>"thanks m8"
Having an MMO mouse from when I played WoW is nice.

taunting gets reverse responses.
Only taunt after responses. because then its personal.

It's going to be "overpowered" regardless because it's a healing item just like how every other healing item is

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I just turn off chat now, so I can't see anything, the fact I shit on people is all I need to say
I'm not joking unfortunately

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Honestly anti smokers have become worse than smokers.

As an ex-smoker I have to disagree, being a smoker you're spraying around this foul smelling gas which causes cancer, to be honest I am amazed it took this long for non-smokers to RISE UP

because
>speed buff is only significant when you're near uber
>you may be busy and don't want to leave your position
>you can heal multiple players at the same time
>you can boost your heal rate on one player
>you can't reach the player by normal means

RIP Too young to die, too beautiful to live.

So the crossbow does medigun healing for how long? A few seconds? It's shit

The crossbow is fine as is

I wish we could have this mentality for fatty foods.

>150 dps
Not even close
>afterburn
Afterburn got nerfed to shit in Jungle Inferno and gets put out by literally everything anyway.

Reminder: if you die to a pyro, you're the one that's bad. There's no excuse.

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Am I retarded for thinking Heavy is fun? I've been playing this game for almost 10 years now and I've never gotten bored of running around as the fat guy. I never understand when people here say that Heavy is the most boring class.

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Would anyone care to adopt an abandoned weapon?

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tf2 would be a much better game if spy, sniper, and pyro were just straight up deleted

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I miss it user

>start healing scout
>scout gets to 120 hp and then picks up medkit
thanks

Im only killing myself when I eat takeout.

If me eating takeout made nearby people fat then there's a problem.

Babys Face Blaster was such overpowered horseshit back in the day.

I miss it.

Afterburn got buffed actually big time
It used to do a static 60 dmg
Now it does over that, or below it, you just don't know
They also buffed the flamethrower. It's super fucking strange. Like the flamethrower used to be inconsistent but the afterburn was consistent. Now the afterburn is inconsistent and the flamethrower is consistent. They flipped it so that the most annoying fucking mechanic was the decider.

this meme gets perpetuated by absolute retards.

pyro isn't close range specialist becaus he does the most damage up close, hes just the most useful in close quarters areas on the map.
Pyro is the only class that can continously shoot, and unlike heavy can weave through tight corridors. That's why hes really good in close range. Hell this doesn't even take into account airblast or self splash damage.

i unironically use the red tape recorder

because im contrarian and like using shit no one else uses, and the RTR is probably the least-used weapon in the game

if it's the same rate as the stock medigun it won't immediately turn the tables when you use it on someone in a losing 1v1, removing uber build with it would be a good change too. The syringe guns need to be buffed to match it. They're arguably the worst weapons in the game.

Spy is fine, fuck snipers though it's a class for shitters that can't DM

>how long
as long as it takes to apply the full total of what the arrow was meant to heal.

it drains money from health care.

It would heal the same amount it does now
>The crossbow is fine as is
Medic is overpowered as fuck do you even play this game?

Honestly if the syringe gun was made hitscan instead it'd be fine, the biggest downside isn't the needle arc it's the travel time

I don't know why, but I feel like I'm actually looking at garbage. Like a pile of something that makes me want to gag.

Worst part is the style bastardization.

>Ullapool caber
It was the perfect sniper bully weapon, god i miss it

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Yeah no shit the game is meant to revolve around ubercharges user, what else you got

has access to the most braindead weapon in the game, so he doesn't need to properly aim to deal damage.
also the flames are far too fucking bright, they need to tone them down because you can't see shit when he's spazzing around like a tard.

>neon annihilator
I remember the night that weapon came out, and some guy here on Yea Forums crafted Neon Annihilator #1.

I wonder if he's in this thread, and if he still has it.

Shh, you can't post facts here you'll hurt someone's feelings

There is noting wrong with spy
>b-but Im a deaf retard with tunnel vision!

What was the purpose of the Huo-Long Heater? The ring of fire it creates isn't really useful for holding down a cart or a point since the Heavy would probably be killed long before anyone got that close, and it doesn't really do much against spies (except igniting them for your teammates to then kill, I guess) because... again, they can backstab you long before the fire kills them. It goes through ammo way too quickly too. I just don't get it.

At least the Brass Beast is good for MvM.

it was such a fucking retarded weapon but it was my favorite demo melee

thats the point

To be honest most of the shit in that image is actually congruent with the 60s spytech style that TF2 has, the only ones that are actually offensive are the fire axe, the classic sniper rifle, and the laser guns and maybe the neon sign

Be better, faggot

Remember when the jumpers didn't have that shitty sign glued onto them?
Remember when you could put down more than 2 stickies with the sticky jumper?

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>medic is meant to be op
according to who? no class should be a must pick that's shit game design.

brass beast, bear claws, and bufallo look out of place. So does the wrap assassin and the huo-long imo.

what's the point?

>Put all your stickies in one pile
>Teleport across the map often to your death
Damn that was fun.

>Team support is "OP"
I don't even know wtf to say to you actually, you're just stupid, sorry it's true

airblast is the most powerful "stun" ability still in the game and the flamethrower is so braindead a toddler could get kills with it.

I wouldn't say nothing, he really doesn't need the speed buff AND afterburn immunity from the Dead Ringer
The speed buff alone is abusable as fuck in the right hands

remember when there were orange weapons that looked like jumpers, and still throw you off?

the sign was needed.

>tfw I still use the Huo-Long Heater when attacking in Payload
Am I retarded? It seems to be working well for me.

It's situationally better if the nest is heavilly defended and you have no chance of destroying the buildings before the engi/pyro unsaps them. Get in, place it, get out, and now his stuff's level 2, which can make the difference if your team's pushing. Also minis.

>not pre-nerf Public Enemy
It's like you don't even go fast.

>fisher price weapons
i kind of like the new jumpers, they're so fucking stupid to look at

the wrap assassin too

>medic is the only support class

to be bright and distracting.

>(except igniting them for your teammates to then kill
This is literally it. It's to prevent a spy from backstabbing you and getting away- instead, if it backstabs you your teammates can kill him.

.......... theoretically. realistically, spies can jump over the fire and not get ignited. and if not they can just DR or spycicle away.

Blame retarded f2ps that still to this day try to shoot people with them

>he can't bhop

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?????

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dead ringer has been nerfed into oblivion nobody uses that piece of shit anymore. spy is incredibly weak right now.

>was

Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?

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why?
it wasn't like that before JI. why should he be able to obscure peoples view by holding mouse one and moving like a toddler?

Except that in order for afterburn to deal more damage than it would have before, you would need to deal enough damage to the enemy with the fire particles that they'd die before they even reached it's old duration. This is irrelevant anyway because afterburn is still put out by literally everything, so nobody ever dies to afterburn unless they're at 10 hp.
>now the flamethrower is consistent
It isn't though
youtu.be/JqaI5LhNalk

>nobody uses that piece of shit anymore
Don't bullshit me my dude it might have had a history of being nerfed but it's equally been buffed as well there's literally no reason for the speed buff and afterburn immunity when there's two specific weapons for that exact purpose

it was supposed to be distracting from the start, its in the commentary.

competitive in tf2 is retarded and this was entirely just a response to Overwatch esports

also they fucked up a lot of weapons to balance them for comp

Engie buddies

Wrap assassin isn't a bad weapon. The stock bat is shit, some ranged damage isn't a bad choice. Overdose isn't either it's just overshadowed by the crossbow. Blutsauger and stock are both much worse weapons.

nobody could have foreseen that they'd get rid of the old quickplay nor require dx9 for comp. Killed a lot of community servers and comp at the same time

>>now the flamethrower is consistent
>It isn't though
It actually shoots where you aim the flame particles now
In that vid the damage drops off when the flame cone goes slightly behind the player model
Shocking

What's wrong with Neon?

It'd be much faster to list what went right, which would be "literally nothing"

In what magical purgatory are these scout v pyro theorycraft mges happening

I really miss when flamethrower did more damage to people that ran TOWARDS the pyro, and did less damage to people the pyro ran towards.

they just 180d that essentially, used to be insanely powerful to curve flamethrowers and have people run into it and take massive damage. Specially enemy retard pyros.

But if you're playing as frontline heavy, chances are you're surrounded by teammates who would notice a spy uncloaking or disguising, and it wouldn't make any difference whether or not he's ignited once he backstabs you and IF he backstabs you in the middle of a cluster.
What a shitty weapon. I'd rather just keep an ear open, hope a pyro is nearby, and use something that can actually deal damage.

they get to keep the original equalizer in all its glory.

whether it needs those stats or not is irrelevant when it's shit. I'd much rather have the old 90% dead ringer back without the other stats.

>On fire
>Regen not gonna save you
>pull this shit out
>it actually puts you just above the red
is there a better a feeling?

Yeah I'd be ok with that but don't give it the ability to pick up fucking ammo packs again

>>sydney sleeper
dont remind me how they massacred my girl. i know the SS is memed as a sniper for people who can't aim but it was unironically a fun, unique gun.

then:
>full charge or headshot covered enemies for 8 SECONDS
>hits also produced a cloud of jarate that covered all nearby enemies
>could extinguish teammates who were fire!!
it was such a cool support rifle.

now:
>full charge only does 5 seconds of jarate
>no jarate cloud
>can't extinguish teammates anymore
>oh but you now mini-crit when you get a headshot

they destroyed its entire purpose as a support rifle. im still mad, and i will always be mad.

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>medic crits me
>freeze frame hes at 20 hp and pulled out the kritz
>oh no...
>killfeed : Faggot afterburned MUHDICK

>it actually shoots where you aim the flame particles now
usually, not always. see sketchek's recent video on the topic. the damage is also all over the place and incredibly buggy and inconsistent.

Where did the myth that Soldier is for Quake players come from?

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That DR was fine, they just need to keep the current "Damage reduction goes down as you take damage while cloaked"

The biggest issue with the old DR was when you shot the spy, knew he was a DR spy and perfectly tracked him but he had what, 8 seconds of 90% damage reduction? So you just wasted your and the Spies god damn time waiting for the cloak to run out.

What a shame for a class who just has to walk forward while holding down LMB

obviously.

Rocket Jumping originated from Quake as well as did TF

>quake
>zombies

wut

Scouts are priority heal-targets when they run in your range. Takes like 1 second to zip them up to 150% buff and they are usually only running around you for ~2 seconds before they're running out of medigun range

>run scorch shot and phlog
>harass enemy team constantly
>have medic uber my buff
>wipe enemy team and repeat
thank god pubs are so fucking awful at pushing or this wouldn't work

>let's give the close-ranged fire class a close-ranged hitscan melee!
What the fuck was Valve thinking

DOOM, actually
All of the other classes were part of the Quake mod, so why aren't they memed nearly as much?

>B-b-b-but balance!
Fags crying about balance is the reason the game is not as fun anymore.

Not just rocket jumping, but rocket combat in general. jumping, aiming, splash knockback, etc,

>Valve adds Classic rifle
>Claim it functions just like the TFC Sniper Rifle
>Actually very different from the TFC Sniper Rifle
>And they made it complete shit
More accurate stats for it would be that it can headshot at any charge, but headshots only deal 2x damage. This would have the added benefit of making it fucking usable.

you can still extinguish

the dr was not fine. It spawned a wave of obvious, annoying faggots that you couldn't kill unless they severely fucked up. Don't even get me started on dr enforcicle. It was cancer. Thank god they nerfed it into oblivion

scout, soldier, demo, and perhaps even sniper are for quake players if you really think about it

what was your favorite exploit?

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nice BC2 waifu

>Flashbacks of Dr. Enforcicle spies
We've been through some rough times in this game.

>8 seconds of 90% damage reduction
yeah, so what? if there's a pyro nearby you just airblast him in a corner until he dies and if he gets away he's out of the fight for a good 20s while his cloak recharges. the DR is never going to fool anybody no matter what you do to it so you might as well make it good at the one thing it's actually used for, getting through chokes without dying.

why would you?

>you can still extinguish
No you can't. It was removed, unannounced, in a patch last year.

I picked up TF2 a couple of weeks ago after not playing for ages. Jumped onto a 24/7 2fort because I enjoyed making snipers rage with my piss gun set. Took me 3 deaths by headshot to realise they ditched set bonuses. Felt bad man, I loved people raging about body shots.

You never played Quake

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It's a neat gimmick weapon, but it's literally useless on maps that don't have large bodies of water, which is most of them.

>Using the Razorback instead of the broken ass Jarate

If you could only play one more round of TF2 in your life, which map would you choose?

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the fuck? does this still work?

Did you ever even play Quake?

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I'm pretty sure they were posessed by an ancient evil. or just some generic knights and shit. I think the only zombies were in that water level? but that wasn't really the iconic enemy.

i extinguished ppl like a couple weeks ago. saw the pink +1 symbol too for the extinguish. only did it scoped though

Hightower so it would never end.

koth_king or koth_harvest, I'd flip a coin

Taunting while moving
Charged shot cow mangler + swap to spectate was pretty fun too especially against friendly faggots

pretty sure it still works you just have to scope in and charge it a bit.

badwater basin?

nope but it was pretty fun.

badwater if the teams are perfectly balanced.
if not, then harvest since it's shit for koth, but fun as fuck for dm.

Dustbowl, home.

>but it should stop you from shooting
No

>Bawwwwww why can't I have a long distance Jarate with none of the downsides!!!
Get fucked. Cry some more about actually having to aim now instead of bodyshotting.

unironically 2fort

yes, if I switch to a melee weapon and hit you with a tiny ass projectile, I should get a free hit in like you got on me.

>with none of the downsides!!!
it couldn't headshot.

now a full-charged SS headshot will kill every class except heavy

Zombies were in a lot of levels.

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don't remember them being everywhere then.
felt like the lost souls of quake.

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Medic is too easy.
>playing a class that's not medic
>suddenly decide I want to win
>switch to med
>tell scouts and soldier to farm uber
>avoid acting retarded for 5 minutes
>3 ubers later the game is won and I'm topscoring

I HAVE 20 HOURS ON MEDIC
20 HOURS
IT TAKES AT LEAST TEN TIMES THAT TO BECOME DECENT AT ALMOST ANY OTHER CLASS

>used to main bfb cleaver and sandman
>kill one guy with cleaver and it would completely fill the boost bar
>now only the cleaver is tolerable and I never play scout anymore

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im still skeptical.

however, if you're right, then having to charge up first kinda ruins the point. by the time you charge up the teammate could be dead or the fire extinguished.

>posting bait images unironically for an arguement

sd_doomsday

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keep playing casual, you'll see NOTHING gets done when nobody on the team knows how to frag well.
Don't take all the credit for yourself just because the scoreboard gives you pity-points for being non-combatant.

>no rebuttal
basado y rojopillado

Hydro is a good map

Sandman + Cleaver so thoroughly fucked Heavies it was unfair.

Good times.

holy
fucking
based

>yes, if I switch to a melee weapon and hit you with a tiny ass projectile, I should get a free hit in like you got on me.
no

Hydro.
with the caveat, that the teams are balanced and the game goes into stalemate each round.

I miss stalemate.

very funny user

medic is the strongest class in the game and its on purpose because people hate playing support
I just wish the other ubercharges could stand up to stock. the quick fix is trash and the vaccinator is only good in smaller team sizes, but then its broken. krits is for having fun but not trying to win.

>2019
>still no official Arena servers

yes

Hit scans easier to hit than projectiles, even if the target is half the size.

It has a great aesthetic and it's a good idea in theory. In practice it's a fucking stalemate factory with chokepoints everywhere and rounds that last forever.

scout > sniper > soldier > demo > medic > heavy > pyro > spy > engi

Sentry in the map, every time.

It only takes one non fully fledged retard and a medic to win a pub, I've pocketed snipers to victory.
And I don't give asingular fuck about my score, but the fact I can get there even though I have put Z E R O effort into learning the class means there is a fucking problem, and even if I was bottomscoring, it wouldn't change the fact anyone can drastically change the way a game is going by going medic.

I fucking know they are going to do something to make the natasha that im going to hate.
it punishes scouts and medics way too hard and someone complains in chat once every 4 games.
we gotta enjoy it while we can

doomsday was too good for this world, too pure

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>2019
>still playing hat simulator
Game died ages ago when Volvo cared more about people buying hats and other shit than making the game good.

Shit taste desu

>yes
Sorry valve is law and they said NO

when it comes to what? their taste in canned sardines?

People hate playing support because it's boring and they intentionally made Medic the most boring support class ever to exist in a video game.

it's the original class lineup

It's a pretty as hell map that captures the original vision of a massive cold-war era installation.
but it plays like ass and rounds either end in 1 minute from a rush or they don't end at all.
The spawns are too close together for a proper defense to be set up on the last point, and it caps in half a second anyway

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The current Natasha isn't shit compared to how it was on release. Now that motherfucker was overpowered as shit.

Did I stutter?

I just want it to temp root after a certain damage threshold is met.

Cope

It still hurts.

At least it was before I fucked everything up.
youtube.com/watch?v=yGs8nLgyQkQ

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yes

medics in the Battlefield series and TF2 are probably the most fun to play. In battlefield you can just run around like a moron and revive teammates while dodging bullets like some sort of prussian ninja. In TF2 you can actively take potshots with the arrows and kill snipers in 2 hits, while also building up a powerful ability.
every other game makes the gameplay loop focus on healing only, resulting in a boring and repetitive experience

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How would you fix Pyro? It's consistently been the most broken class that just doesn't fit in since release. Valve has tried and tried to balance Pyro but it never works, no matter how many different primaries/secondaries/melees it receives to change its playstyle or how many times they adjust the flamethrower.

remove him

Remember when Natascha had 300 ammo? That certainly was a time.

Its annoying how no game has made healing a fun mechanic.

paladins healers are fun as fuck

Pyro functions just fine for zerging, flanking and sometimes helping the Engineer or pushing an uber back

>while also building up a powerful ability
It doesn't matter that it's powerful, it's boring as shit. Honestly, ubercharge is a big part of the reason that medic is so fucking boring, since ubers are so crucial that you're basically forced to spend 100% of your time building up charge for it with the medigun which requires no thought or effort from the player apart from occasionally clicking on another teammate.

The crossbow is the best thing that's ever happened to medic not because of how strong it is, but because it lets medic have a taste of actual gameplay between standing next to a teammate doing nothing while his medigun works automatically.

probably can't without reworking from the ground up. Its fundamental issue is that its a close ranged class doesn't have any inherent mobility. That means it will always be a weaker ambusher and pushing class than the other offensive classes. It's also braindead as fuck so you can't just buff dps and be done with it. It sort of works as a support/defense but that's strictly tied to airblast. It's just a poorly thought out class that they're trying to save with bandaids instead of getting to the core issues

I love this guys videos.

Make the Dragon's Fury an actual viable weapon.

My main in WoW is a male Dwarf holy paladin

They could add the removal of the things that ruined the game all those years ago.

If youre not a comp class I wont heal you

Fuck, was that one of the changes they did? That would explain why I haven't been having as much backpedaling for massive damage as I used to, I fucking loved doing that shit. Hate the fucking flame collision around corners too, can't edge sentries for SHIT now.

Just remove the tripple damage bonus, and make it a 75 at all times.

>They could add the removal of the things that ruined the game all those years ago.
F2Pers?
third-worlders?

So... what then?
You don't heal heavies?

remove him or make the stock flamethrower not stock and make the dragon's fury pyro's new stock primary
and make the dragon's the way it was before it got nerfed

I'd like to say that'd be a good start (mainly because I think tying pyro's main source of damage to such an easily countered debuff is utterly fucking moronic) but honestly the damage per hit is probably the least of the DFury's problems.

>equip phlog+scorch shot
>fire the most powerful projectile in the game at crowds of enemies until I build up full meter
>run around some weird flanking spot
>activate
>run up behind them
>shamelessly ruin the game for 12 people
>if I get a medic I can skip every step except 1 and 2

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I dunno, the main problem with DBreath is that after the first hit, the enemy will start dodging you because they know its easy.

Imagine if direct hit didn't do full damage until the second shot? A lot of people see a direct hit and know to start dodging because its not easy to hit with.

Same goes with dragons fury.

The Classic fits fine.

What's wrong with my main class?

Is it weird that I can't see pyro as a girl with the mask on, but mask of it doesn't phase me?
All that fem pyro shit is like a guy having huge tits and ass.

Post your Heavys.

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Yes

I miss kittie

No

if they announce undead nightmare 2 itll outsell rdr2 giving scientific proof op is some sorta strain of super retard thats been infecting pol for years and is now branching out.

scorch shot was basically made for phlog.
>able to use flank routes for scout
>can airblast enemies to control their location
>big fat juicy after burn damage
>piss off any backline snipers

I envision Pyro as a Vietnamese person enamored with the destructive power of napalm. Even if they took the mask off you couldnt tell what gender they are, and nobody would understand the language they speak.

I tried playing tf2 again and it makes me obscenely mad
crit rocket a whole crowd except for a shitty scout in the background, really low on health
goddamn screaming(medic call, not voice chat) in front of our only medic to heal me and stop healing the maxed out retard friendly heavy who is 0/6
the fucker just stares at me as scout keeps trying to snipe me with his scatter gun and actually kills me
the medic just runs back to base and switches to another friendly heavy with pink dye on everything

I fucking hate this game now, jesus christ
And why the hell do i keep getting winter 2018 crates, its the ending of summer 2019

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>sniper goes gator backpack to negate fire damage
>dies to a spy

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I always thought the pyro would be a cute filipino girl.

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I fucking hate the Scorch Shot so fucking much. I hate the Phlog too but at the very least they can't airblast and have to get up close to do any damage, plus it's easy to kill them the second they pop their Mmmph.

But the Scorch Shot is such a bitch to deal with. It's so easy to double-whammy someone by hitting them with a SS flare then letting a Solider get a free kill while you're stunlocked. And the splash damage just takes the need to aim. You can just stand at the far end of the map and shoot flares, racking up kills and assists without even trying.

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I always go for gator snipers first.

did you know that the scorch shot can let you axtinguisher combo enemy pyros? i literally have no idea how they think the other pyro secondaries compete

While it is shit that the weapon doesn't do full damage until the second shot, it does still deal a fair amount of damage overall.
Like I said, that's the least of the DFury's problems when it also has an airblast that completely disables the weapon for several seconds, a bugged projectile that gets rendered inert if another projectiles passes through it, and firing mechanics that actively punish you for missing while simultaneously encouraging you to lay on the trigger.

>DOOM, actually
Doom only had rocket 'jumping' as in gaining extra horizontal momentum from standing near an explosion, considering there isn't even a jump button. Quake made extensive use of verticality and gave us the 'look down, shoot, jump, fly' rocket jump as we know it. Soldier has arguably changed the least since the original form as well- he lost the shitty nail grenade (and frags, of course) and got more health in exchange for the removal of armor (armor being a carryover from Quake itself along with the four ammo types everyone carried in QWTF and TFC, even if they didn't use them- Valve was lazy), but still amounts to "shoot rockets (four at a time), shoot shotguns, jump around with air control, blow shit up." Nothing as extensive as Engineer's building tweaks or Scout losing undisguise-on-touch and team-ping or Spy losing feign death and so on.

>boomer posting
>for post mannconomy update content

Zoom Zoom

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>a bugged projectile that gets rendered inert if another projectiles passes through it

It also breaks if its anywhere near a prop object or a wall.
>hit box to hit opponents is smaller than the hit box to hit the enviroment

I absolutely still run enforcer and the brass beatdown. Doing extra damage is nice.

All the more reason this Gabenforsaken weapon needs to be destroyed. Or at least reworked into something that doesn't make me want to murder the closest living thing every time I see it.

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the only part of my heavy that matters

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>stands on an incline slightly downhill from you
>fires scorch shot
>sends you to space
Don't worry, by the time you land from the knockback, your medic will be respawning.

>he thinks Natascha is some kind of Scout counter

>Nothing as extensive as ... Scout losing undisguise on touch and team-ping
Out of all the things you could have mentioned for Scout, you chose that?
His singular shotgun was worthless for main combat and he could explosive jump better than Soldier and Demoman.
The only thing the first and second Scout share in common is their name and the general theme of their weapons.

Good one. Natasha's an underrated minigun. Sure it's not the best for combat but it makes up for that with its ability to fuck mobility. It's the perfect wingman weapon: You slow the enemy down enough for your team to finish off.

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Imma just post all my mercs

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That's not exclusive to the scorch shot.
Pyro actually counts as on fire for about a second after being hit with fire damage for the purposes of weapons like the axtinguisher and the dragon's fury.

his single nailgun was worthless too
scout in general was worthless because who the fuck would play scout instead of medic who did everything the same or better?

haha so like
haha does sniper pee on his gun before he shoots? does he pee down the barrel with his barrel ahahAHAHAHAHa
wowoowowwwoowwowowoowwowowowowo

why does everyone shit on this gun, its fucking good

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>the general theme of their weapons.
every weapon in team fortress's entirety is one of quake's eight weapons with stats tweaked

They added back autobalance to help out the shitty teams.

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the gun is fine, it sacrifices damage output to lower the skill floor. it's just that nobody respects people who are attracted to a low skill weapon

Nice. I especially love your Engi and Medic loadouts. Engi's got a 1920's entrepreneur vibe going on and the Quadragler is one of Medic's best coats, goes well with almost anything.

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This makes me wonder, why was Scout the first class made for the mod if he's worthless for anything but flag-running - which the mod didn't even have at first?

Because they can't accept being killed by a bodyshot compared to getting shot in the face. I just tell them to stop dying to bodyshots.

>want to buy entire arsenal of TF2 weapons because theres no way to get them normally in a reasonable amount of time for some asinine reason
>go to in-game store
>one weapon is like $5
>getting all of them would cost nearly a thousand bucks
>go to third party websites
>weapons here cost 1 penny or somewhere close
>but they ask for shady shit like home address and SSN
>go to Steam community market
>you cant buy normal weapons here, fuck you

Gee I wonder why Valve is getting ass-raped by Epic so bad?

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it just helps the most boring class more bearable to play
most fun class will always be soldier though

yeah, but the scorch shot pops twice, and you actually have enough time to pull out your axtinguisher and swing with it by the time the scorch shot's projectile hits the floor

you know what makes sniper fun to play? sick dubstep collaterals. machina for days, give away your position to enemy snipers as a display of your dominance

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Why don't they just give the Pyro a lightning gun?

t. stupid gook who cant wrap his ass around trading servers

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scrap.tf
You can all weapons that are not rare or special bastard-tier for a scrap each (lowest possible in-game currency which you can get for free)
Don't pay for them wtf are you doing idiot

>Why don't they just give the Pyro a minigun and a sniper rifle combined?

>thinking of putting money on a free to play game
>a free to play game on life support
>a free to play game whose last big update was 2 years ago and fucked over community servers as casual play is way more common now and as a result all my sprays are effectively useless and the since of community has a died a bit as a result along some other factors

I dont know you and a I hate you

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Sure it might be easier with the scorch shot, but it's not an exclusive feature of the scorch shot by any means.

Lightning gun has a limited reach.

Are you serious? Incase you are, here's some general advice:

>you'll always get plenty of weapons playing the game normally
>if you don't like the weapons, you can trade them 1:1 on scrap.tf (it's the site I use)
>if you just want to have all the weapons, then what you do is buy a mann co key, wait for the trade cooldown, and then trade it for about 40 refined. Then trade each refined for 18 weapons each. You'll have more than enough, and be able to pimp out your mercs in whatever retarded hats that you want.

>minigun and a sniper rifle combined?
LG has piss-all range, making it not a sniper rifle, and no spread, making it not a minigun. Most players will also tell you that constant tracking takes a hell of a lot more skill than flick-shotting.

it'll still shred anything that is within its range, which means it'll be perfect with things like powerjack or jetpack
not like a pyro main is going to be able to track that well with perfect-aim hitscan, but still
maybe the analogy made more sense in my head
no spread like sniper, rapid fire like minigun

detonator is the sleeper pick
charges meter almost as fast as the scorch shot if you know how to use it. then you have the bonus of det jumping + phlog into the enemy team, which even lets you catch escaping scouts.

youtube.com/watch?v=hgSdBW9njK0

The perfect loadout. If you have sinned against the Order of the Vanilla Scout, then your crimes can be forgiven, as long as you throw away your milk, and your triple jumps and your soda drinks. This is all that a scout truly needs, no more and no less. Confess, and get good.

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dumb chink nice b8 though

this but for Soldier
gunboats are the mark of a virgin

>rapid fire like minigun
Not rapid fire, constant stream. Think 'flamethrower with more focused damage that doesn't reward waggling your mouse like a retard.'

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I guess, but it'd have to be in some weird in-between with damage where it does more than flamethrower aim-wiggling but not enough that someone who can actually aim can delete someone before a Heavy in the same position could

Yeah it's called be a man and use the Classic

My wishlist
>Flames are no longer opaque
>Flame damage scales properly for accuracy
>Flame hitbox size reduced significantly
>Degreaser unnerfed
>Degreaser base damage reduced by 25%
>Phlog reverted. Heals pyro again but blocks healbeams while active. Can die while taunting to instakills.
>Phlog particles now visually match the other flamethrowers
>Dragon's fury has the airblast penalty removed and hitbox fixed
>Scorch shot deleted from existence
>Reserve shooter no longer minicrits. 3 clip. does a flat 25% damage bonus to launched targets.
>Gas passer does minicrit afterburn. Remove cooldown mechanic
>Gas passer counts as wet for the NA
>Axtinguisher reverted. (Backstab version)
>Homewrecker now gives pyro 75% knockback reduction while active (like mantreads). Can now one shot level 2s.
>NA and Homewrecker cannot remove sappers.
>Manmelter gets a reload animation
>Backscratcher heal penalty reduced to 50%.
>Third degree minicrits when it hits a medic or his patient
>Airblast reverted keeping the cone hitbox and no stun.
>Airblast distance now proportional to class weight. Scouts go flying, heavies barely move.
>Airblast minicrit bug fixed
>Airblast now resets projectile fuses
>Airblast resets projectile velocity (as if you are firing the weapon yourself)
>Airblasted stickies flash your color for 2s. If detonated during this time they hurt the enemy team.
>Airblasted stickies minicrit during this time as well
>Airblasting teammates costs 0 ammo instead of healing you

Jetpack
>Now a part of pyro's default kit
>Gives pyro a quick boost in any direction by double tapping
>Space gives pyro a double jump straight up

This gives pyro numerous new options for playstyles and makes him more skill based overall. Jetpack movement is now unique to pyro and actually viable in combat. Reflecting is now more useful in general while stunning and juggling players is not.

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For the shotgun yes, but there's literally no reason to use stock melee on soldier.

>shoot a heavy in the head with the huntsman
>body shot
>arrow misses the heavy by 30 miles
>headshot
why is the hit registration so fucking shit still

Direct Hitboats is chad though.
>rjump directly into the enemy team
>juggle and pop whatever target you want, even their pocket soldier
>jump away with your last rocket and reload laughing

discourage pussy tactics with other melees and remain at the top of your killing game regardless of health or altitude

I hate it because I miss the explosive effect.
and they nerfed it to be worse before they buffed it. How do you even fucking do that.

stock launcher
gunboats
half zatoichi
its all i know

Make it use hitscan hitboxes instead of projectile and the players' aim will balance it out.

>can't do advanced rocket jumps
>calls anyone else a virgin

then how do you use the fart taunt?

Because the chance of you actually using that against a real player is almost 0 and even if you do the axtinguisher damage is unlikely to kill.

>>can't do advanced rocket jumps
maybe if you'd do them right you wouldn't be losing so much health

no baby face no deal

what melee yall use for demoknight
i always find my self going back to the half zatoichi. any reason why i shouldnt?

You mean discourage pulling out your melee at all.
There's a good reason why nobody uses stock melee on soldier. Hell, it's not even exclusive to soldier, most classes never use their stock melee.

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WHY IS MY SKILL SO INCONSISTENT FUCK

some days I go 44-8 headshots only, but then a week later I'll play like it's my first time, it's fucking frustrating

I use the Persian Persuader the most alongside the Tide Turner. I just love being able to swoosh right into a group, off the medic, then swoosh right out.

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eyelander. without random crits the zat is useless. at least with an eyelander i can escape the fight with a couple heads if i miss the charge/crit, but the zat leaves you stranded in the enemy's line of fire

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Me too

RIP being able to turn into Sanic and actually cap on 2Fort for once

there is an easy solution for your problems but seeing as you are a chink cuck I'm not going to tell you.

I used to main zatoichi knight, it works and forces you to retreat less often
I just like the eyelander for movespeed

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that too
if my rockets and shells are spent, I'm either far from a fight, about to lose one, or about to get a shovel kill
in other words, my only reason for using stock shovel is because of placebo

i use the claid.
the extra charge is too much for me to give up, and pairing it with the tide turner allows for further trimps, and hit and run against enemies without the need to give up my launcher.

youtube.com/watch?v=VxdV9THvTgA

funny and relatable meme, user.

Eyelander
Chop four heads
Then run back to spawn, tell the medic to pocket me and switch to the sticky launcher

>pyro mains
youtube.com/watch?v=lU1Qg1oWqz4

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I blame hitreg.
It pisses me off to imagine anyone thinking that sniper is all skill and zero luck with how shitty the hitreg in TF2 is.
Every once in a while, you get these killing sprees where clicking anywhere near a guy counts as a headshot. Then it's back to shit-city...

I miss tf2. If I went back it probably isn’t the same. The only people left are autists who have played the game their entire lives

I remember the days of everyone going attack engie and it was loads of fun when it worked

You are mistaken.
The game is free to play.
Most of the players are as stupid as the day f2p was released.
There's still too many spies and snipers every single game.

>If I went back it probably isn’t the same.
Correct, however the core gameplay is still here.
>The only people left are autists who have played the game their entire lives
Retard.

actually yeah don't come back thanks user we'll survive without your "old" 25 years old self

There are a lot of retards still. Every so often you even see someone who looks like they just started earlier that day.

>aiming at the visible models
>not aiming at the hitboxes
fell into a classic noob trap, good snipers memorize the invisible hitboxes for every class in their run animation and aim for that

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>That one engi that puts a minisentry right next to the highest part of the launchpad

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poopy joe was too good for this world :(

Any further reading or demonstrations?
Video perhaps? I've looked up this stuff before and this is the first I'm seeing this desync of hitbox alignment (besides taunting or spy disguises)

post your favorite tf2 video and your favorite weapon loadout

im just shitposting, this image is from a video about a patched bug. but it was a really well known bug that only got patched in 2017, and should have been patched in 2008.

It's not a matter of hitreg, it's a matter of some days you wake up and you just cannot aim at all, your mouse feels wrong, your sensitivoty feels wrong.
I always end up tweaking everything.
Sensitivity, config, the way I hold my mouse, nothing works, fucking nothing.

youtube.com/watch?v=Dn9970dxQ2g
FaN Scout

hmm, my read on the situation is that you're probably gay user. your hands are telling you that they can't live a lie anymore. you won't be able to hit a headshot until you admit the truth to yourself and find yourself a boyfriend. then of course you won't be playing sniper, you'd be playing medic, and kritzing him constantly. i wish you good luck in your new life, with your new love.

>Swipez grows even stronger
user we cant allow that to happen

wtf im gay now
time to play pyro

youtube.com/watch?v=2a1jjC3ll2U

Air Strike + Buff Banner
It's a fucking struggle to get there, but being able to carpet-bomb the entire team into oblivion is worth it.

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remember doing this a lot, the adrenaline rush from running around the enemy base dodging all attacks because it would probably be an instakill when i got to the intel room i always lowered my own health so when i grab the intell i would get the fuck out of there in seconds.

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Tom got the escape plan and Jib got the equalizer. Like a divorcing couple.

yes. I literally never use the gayzorback and I dont have any problems with spies because I'm not brain-dead and I dont stand in the same spot for the entire game.

That's a cute idea. Why can't you be on the dev team?

i still got my strange pomson and bison, im trying to main the backscatter i dont remember its name because im bored.

ah yes, the drunk Scottish space program. Another treasure lost to the sands of time

why does the buffalo steak even have a damage vulnerability penalty?

that's a good question
even without the damage vulnerability it would still be a shitty meme loadout

Name a more cancerous class

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I'm not trying to shit on CSGO or anything, but as an example, how come a game like CSGO, which has like 10x the player count that TF2 has, never gets talked about on Yea Forums, yet TF2 has daily threads?

tf2 is more fun

I WANT TO FUCK THE PYRO SO FUCKING BAD

Hey Yea Forums,
yore
ugleh

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better idea, it would have an optional weapon skin of a french flag, like the demo shield that can change it's look.

games with high skill floors never get discussed on Yea Forums

based

Peak TF2 for me was coming home to join the Arena server I frequented with a sound mod that added classic game songs to ambient soundscapes like

I really wish I could find that mod again, that it still worked, and that Arena had servers.

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>20 years
>2 gamemodes
but thank god they managed to add cash shop anime girl stickers to put on your pink zebra stripe rifle

You guys have weird ideas of the British

Because it's better to watch people who are actually good at the game than it is to try to fool yourself into thinking your level of play would ever be remotely similar to theirs.

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*blocks your backpack space*

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soldier. tf2 doesn't have to be balanced in a 24 player fuck fest, but he sucks the fun out of any and all 1v1's

you just shoot at your own feet until they die before you do, since you have 25 more hp than demo for no fucking reason
no only does soldier have high damage (damage that is aoe mind you), hes got enough base hp to tank head shots, and he has reliable mobility
even a shitter like me who can't pogo can get out of jail free with a single basic rocket jump WITHOUT gunboats
he has a shotgun to deal with the one class who is designed to counter rockets anyway

I've been deleting them for what feels like years now. How the fuck are they still worth 3 cents?

>tf2 will die in this coming decade

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They're worth literally nothing, 3 cents is just the absolute minimum that can be charged and no one is buying.

It takes a minimum of 1 brain cell to use since you don’t have to aim, and it has a fucking annoying “stun” that lets them push you around with a single click. If you look at the other classes, they take immense effort to achieve the same. Why learn to juggle enemies with rockets when you can right click? Why go for DoT build for scout when you can left click?

Pyro is mediocre in the end. The ceiling is lower, but easier to achieve, and since few people want to spend the time mastering a class Pyros will always be popular.

not surprising, it's a dinosaur already

>since you have 25 more hp than demo for no fucking reason
soldier rocket jumps constantly. demo has 12 explosives, soldier has 4. demo has much more utility.
>no only does soldier have high damage
compared to what?
>hes got enough base hp to tank head shots
so can every combat class excluding scout, any class that can fuck snipers shit up is a plus
>and he has reliable mobility
isn't free or passive like scout, doesn't go as far as demo. it depends on the situation. overall sure he has the most practical mobility but lacks in other areas.
>even a shitter like me who can't pogo can get out of jail free with a single basic rocket jump WITHOUT gunboats
rockets are a precious resource. one rocket to jump in and one rocket to jump away only leaves you with 2 to kill things with.
>he has a shotgun to deal with the one class who is designed to counter rockets anyway
if soldier runs shotgun he is either going to be grounded/slow most of the game or need a medic up his ass half the match
if he doesn't he's easy pickings for scouts, has limited staying power, and can't easily finish off retreating enemies

overall soldier is the most mobile class but has to pick and choose his fights carefully because if he overcommits, bombs at the wrong time, or runs out of rockets mid fight he's dead.

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Define ‘die’

>balance the sandman by literally making it a stock downgrade
user you know that the stun WAS the balancing feature of that weapon

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>get hit by a sandman ball
>does barely noticeable damage and the slowdown is basically nothing

look how they massacred my boy

it was a shit design to begin with.
stuns do not belong in arena shooters in any form.

csgo is a good game, but what are you going to talk about? blog about your teams, troll people by pretending to think the UMP is good? theres nothing to talk about, you just take turns shooting the AK in that game

almost all of these weapons have been made irreverent or worse by the TF2 teams obsession with making this game competitive, a game mode that less than 5% community even give a shit about

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This thing will always be a bro in my book

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back in 2010 and 2011 people would always talk about how retarded comp tf2 is and thats because it is, nobody wants to get tryhardy in 6s, there are literally a million other games that do it better. But
when valve trys to hastily make an update to compete with overshit you get a sloppy mess.

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Will community servers ever make a comeback? A lot of them tend to be ghost towns nowadays so I pretty much gotta play with mostly bots if I don't wanna do casual.

I still use it and its not bad today.

tonight is night

twitter.com/ValveNewsNetwor/status/1149206014073483269

not with random critz + swing speed it aint. Stock bad can destroy people.

local man says something is definitely happening this time nervously

it outlived any of your favorite shit games that are already long dead. will probably outlive overbotch at this rate.

>call for medic
>hand hitbox blocks head and prevents headshots

Thank god not many people know this...

Doublecross

honestly i dont know why the Highlander verson of tf2 wasnt picked over 6's. 1 player is each class on a team of 9. it was fun back in the day and really hit what tf2 was all about. 9 different classes each playing their rolls as a team, the "competitivly weak" ones included. now its 3 scunts 2 soldiers and a medic in every competitive game.

I miss piercing

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HL is an utter pain to matchmake for due to the class restrictions.
also more restrictive since you can't shuffle your team comp around.

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>Atomizer only works when deployed now

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Never Evers

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that medigun looks sick

highlander is shit and it's blatantly obvious that some classes aka shit like eng/spy shouldn't be run full time

Forgot about this, what happened?

Also where the fuck is my Scout statue? It’s like Valve just decided to abandon this game randomly one day.

that tends to happen

>honestly i dont know why the Highlander verson of tf2 wasnt picked over 6's
because you have 2 classes that do nothing for 90% of the round (spy, pyro) and 2 classes that are literal gods (sniper, demo), incredibly long queue times where one match can take HOURS to start because there are a hundred snipers mains for every one medic main, and a boring as fuck meta because defense classes heavily punish aggression while requiring very little skill to do so. 9 players means personal skill matters much less. having lots of slow classes in play means you can't rapidly take ground with soldier/scout/demo without overextending. Big plays are extremely rare because the enemy team has to seriously fuck up for you to get 5 or 6 kills in a row. I seriously doubt you have ever played hl or 6s much less in an actual competitive match if these flaws were not immediately obvious to you.

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HL is low skill trash, its honestly appalling the kind of shit gameplay that happens in "competitive" highlander

It is a fact that TF2 would be massively improved if every class were buffed and specialized more. Scout was so fun with BFB 1.0 and felt so bland afterwards. Why not just break every class?

If you got ears and the ability to quickscope the razorback becomes useless

rip kitty0706, shit aint the same, makes me happy to still see his stuff here

>get into 1v1 with enemy sniper
>spam nice shot at each other every time we miss

those were the fuckin days

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And that's not even getting into the actual logistical issues of 9v9. How do you deal with players leaving mid game? The match will probably end long before you find a medic replacement. How do you measure the skill levels of each class? How do you find a heavy of equal skill level to a demo or sniper? What kind of ELO system would you need for this? How do you have LANs? Sponsors now have to pay for 9 plane tickets? LAN centers now have to accommodate for much larger teams which means more floorspace, PCs, chairs, tables, etc. Increased costs across the board. Spectating is now hell because keeping track of 18 players all doing their own thing all over the map is extremely difficult. Comms are a mess and it's very difficult to coordinate anything without deafening your team. Also lets stop with this nonsense that TF2 was built for every class to be in play at the same time. It wasn't. Robin Walker and several other key devs have stated numerous times in dev talks and commentary that the generalist classes are supposed to be the core of the team and be played the most, ie soldier and demo. The other classes are specialists and should be used when the situation calls for it. Furthermore the game was originally built for 8v8 and class limits have never been a part of any official ruleset ever. HL is a joke format where 6s players sandbag for shits and giggles while the lower ranks are for shitters who don't play 6s because they only know how to play one offclass and won't touch anything else.

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Playing spy is impossible in this game, everyone is soundwhoring

How the fuck do I git gud at VSH bros. I play as Scout in a server where the BFB gets a sick damage boost so I use that for reference

The fuck are you on about, selfish cuck.

If getting comp to work with tf2 is such a challenge then wouldn't it be better to just balance the weapons and game play around the aspect that people know works in tf2, the casual play?

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Yes, yes it would. Comp subset of the community was just fine balancing itself on the side without affecting the main game. Squeezing comp into the actual game was a mistake and a kneejerk reaction to Overwatch.

comp was fine how it was but people on the outside looking in always gave their shitty opinions. Most of the weapons that got nerfed didn't even have shit to do with comp. The caber for example got nerfed because sniper mains kept whining

so what, 12v12? how are you going to know what weapons are broken without competitive 12v12 matches with skilled players testing them which if you read my post at all should easily see why 12v12 comp matches are a really stupid idea. if you aren't going to have competitive matches how are you going to know what needs fixing. just trust the devs to make the right decisions? because that's how we got cancer like the DDS and the old short circuit. pubs only work because the devs have nerfed most of the really retarded weapons into oblivion where they are so bad you're crippling yourself by using them and pub players are dumb as shit and they might as well be 3v3 matches with the top 3 players on each team being gods and the rest of the server being easy mode bots for them to farm their stranges on when they're not fighting each other. balancing around 6s is the best overall choice and if you want to see the other classes played more it's on valve to try to fix the problems accompanying them
>the other gamemodes with dedicated attack/defense sides have numerous inherent problems and awful map pools
>very few unlocks that change up specialist playstyles in a meaningful way (ie gunslinger)
>specialists have low skill ceilings and aren't very exciting to play as or against and in general slow the game down instead of speeding it up
valve needs to communicate with both communities more and bridge the gap between casual and competitive. competitive mode is a complete joke and the game simply will not work in this format without huge overhauls to class balance.

The caber got nerfed because he already has 2 ways to instantly kill everybody

>queue for Valve's comp
>wait about 30 minutes
>finally get thrown on competitive turbine
>enemy has a spinbot sniper
I still haven't finished my placement matches.

Fuck off the wrapper became based after the sandman went to shit

I fucking love the brass beast, it was the first strange weapon I ever got and I've been using it for almost 7 or 8 years now. Even gave it a pro ks kit.

Everything

just waste another pipe. At least you can take them down with you

Last time I checked the comp classes were;
>2 scout
>2 soldier
>1 demo
>1 medic