7th Stand User thread Cont

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Itt: We talk about 7th stand user, a Jojo fangame that is very fun, while we wait for anons to translate/mod/add to the game.

Other Jojo games welcome, of course.

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can you summon kira from any location or is it japan only

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So which PC stand has the best power for sex?

As long as you have the memo you can fight him anywhere.

Anywhere

from last thread; How do I dismiss party members so I can be alone? Trying to get Caravan to recreate items while sleeping. Currently in Singapore at the Hotel before Yellow Temperance, so I don't think any member would be specifically locked up til Jotaro gets to the cable cars

>post asking if i can keep caravan
>just get told 'you throw nukes lategame'
>mfw

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Does the japanese clothing really fuck you over with missing attacks?
I like being a fat

>intp
>got miracles
what does it mean

you just want to live a quiet life

Can you get the color patch anywhere?

Nope, but you'll start out by yourself in Calcutta, so that should be a good time to do it if you want.

I have the opposite question. I'm at the harbor and the game tells me to bring friends all the time. How can I explore the town with buddies?

Was that weird Diavolo game ever got transleted? It looked kinda interesting.

This was my favourite general, but now femoids browse these threads and turned it to shit

talk to them
except polnareff.
Jotaro is in a cafe south, kakyoin buying stuff on the south west, avdol is on the docks and joseph is inside the middle building.

The one that controls body fluids obviously.
Alternatively Miracles can make your partner think you're good.

Simply find them around the town you're at, and talk to them. You can ask them to come with you (only one at a time though), and plenty of events only happen with a specific member in the party.

For example, if you're with Kakyoin, you can drink with a lady if your character isn't shy. Avdol has a little scene if you go to the sushi bar. If Jotaro's over level 10, you can be jumped by assassins. Most of these give FP. If anything, have Joseph with you when you talk to the 'hidden dude' near the truck. Fun little scene.

Sorry, not used to making threads.

>general thread format
inb4 404

[HEROES OF SILENCE]
Power E
Speed C
Range B
Durability B
Precision A
Learning B

"A group of 40 to 100 micro-Stands, the largest of which the size of a human head. While lacking any special offensive capabilities, they can run harassment and interference at very long range by producing visual illusions and white noise."
tl;dr: Miracles, but as a Swarm type.

first time playing, what should i know about this stand

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Where do I get the color mod?

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SO POT IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE WITH JOY KILLER? I WASTED ALL THAT FOR NOTHING?!

THIS IS SO GAY WHY WHY!?!?

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that you should reroll immediately

yeah. INFP and Cardigans and literal baby

You have the bad kind of autism

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This is basically your stand.
youtu.be/ARUzoPWS4Uk?t=139

lord of bugs and bug related things

Wait, there's a colored version of 7th Stand User now?

switch stands my good dood

>Miracles can make your partner think you're good.
That really would be a miracle

Bugs. You stacks bugs on the opponent and damage them.
Don't expect much overworld interaction.
>rerolling first time
t. fag

Let. Avdol. Do. His. Job.

>AOE skill to kill images
>poison and rock throw at polnareff
wow
truly impossible

>Previous thread
Fucking retard.

...

Can't I already FIRED him >;^D

Damn, he really doesn’t want anyone to know who he is.

You need a (M) or (L) range sweeping stand to beat Pol on the first run

>colored version makes your character invisible in fishing village
goddamnit

>follows you onto submarine

Don’t bother they’re too retarded to beat pol with one of the stands that can actually do ot

KINO STAND

What if someone added a new event where you Ruse Dio into writing KIRA in the memo?

How often will an event happen when you sleep with a party member? I've tried a couple of times and nothing happens

What is the best stand and why is it NAPALM DEATH?

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Not sure, but if it's anything like the secret Specials skills
2%

I said this like 50 fucking times. He heals the poison almost instantly. Did any of you guys actually try to do this before chastising?

Why does everyone recommend going with Avdol? Isn't ganging on him more fun?

What's this INTJ and ITNP and all that jazz? I'm no psychologist so I legit don't know.
Also Miracles should probably be a part of the "So You're Dying Alone" group.

It loses FP with both Pol and Avol and gives you bad karma.

It is great for the evil endings though.

just wear Japanese clothes and hope Polnareff loses his turns

ganging up loses both FP and karma. only recommended if you REALLY want that Hol Horse ending.

That's a femoid poster so she could only wear the bunny suit

>Not picking stands based on roleplaying a character.
Unbased.

Japanese clothes
whats this and how do i get it?

it is literally like a 3 percent chance mathematically. It can take hundreds of attempts.

>be ISTP
>get Wildhearts

you're a fucking retard, and worse than that, you suck at video games
he doesn't heal every turn, him using medicine doesn't remove the poison status, and you can continue dealing damage to him while he wastes turns trying to offset poison damage as well as dealing AOE damage
I'd tell you to end your fucking life you casual shitlord, but you'd probably complain that aiming the shotgun at your mouth is too hard

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>ESTP
>Got Adam Ant

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Any other sizeable RPGmaker games out there with choice of character personality and abilities?

What is average-chan saying here bros

is deep purple good enough?

in japan from glasses on 3rd floor

There's a long sidequest in Japan where you help a student get his dirty magazine back from a teacher

if you do it unlocks an alternate costume where you're dressed like a samurai, it has a property in battle where either you or your enemy can randomly lose a turn. Also it changes some dialogue throughout the game.
For females you get a bunny suit that has the same effect but you get it later and it's also nearly impossible to acquire.

>Miracles has a C in speed but an A in precision
>Red Garland has an A in speed but a C in Precision

>Miracles(283) has a better max speed than Garland(227)

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>original the character
feels bad

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Howlin' Chads ww@

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Seconding that. In addition, any recommendable Japanese translated RPG maker (non-porn) games besised Yume Nikki in general?

Listen you fuck you obviously have never done this or else you would know he heals the poison very often when healing to the point where it does not matter.

I'm looking right at the game and posined him 5 fucking times already

why are you pretending you fucking did this when you obviously used a different stand or otherwise skipped it.

shrink high

can you actually fight kira at level 5?

Not really, at least nothing translated. 7SU is something special.

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Does this mean user is loves work and insulting people?

Stand stats make no sense, that was true even in the series.

You need to beat down the afterimages and Pol fast before the bleeding kills you. Deep purple can do it with Bomb Volley but you may miss a bunch of times and you need to watch your SP use. Good Luck.

way to literally ignore the entire middle part of my post
stay mad that you can't beat an easy boss with a solid stand when everybody else already did so

Imagen being knotted by your own stand

Man, I didn’t know it was possible to suck so bad at rpgs.
Fuck off retard.

you can fight him at level 1
he'll fucking kill you though, he's one of the strongest bosses in the game. He's obviously intended for NG+

Sure. You can fight him any time.

ayy

any chance of me attacking first ?

Medicine doesn’t remove poison mongoloid, it just heals.
You’re too stupid to realize this, too impatient to realize it in combat and so stuck up your own ass you don’t realize how fucking stupid you are

Go back to “playing” Pokémon go or whatever shit you did before trying to play a basic game you twat

Post quirk ideas

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7su degenerate mods when!?

Is Heaven Ascension DIO in this game?

Goddamnit, how did you know?

>no counter point
>y-y-you suck
Just admit you didn't d this shit I clear the afterimages with Iai for the damage and attempt to stun lock him with knock down and hit him with an attack while he is dizzy or summoning to DoT him and whggat happens is that he heals all that back in like 3 turns of heals and removes poison status .

you obviously never did this with joy killer because your advice is basic bitch shit you would assume would work without actually trying it.

you give up and stop being in a shitty franchise

Just give up. Leave it to Abdul, you don't get that much from beating Pol yourself.

Jesus.

>INTJ
>Got Howlin'
Get a better list
Right here, and let's not forget to remind everyone that Howlin' is a wolf not a dog

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Maybe before Kira does, but you likely wont be able to attack be SHA does first, who can seriously fuck you up.

You can fight him as soon as you get the Memo.
But he gets like 3 attacks every turn and easily does over 100 HP with any of them, so yeah.
Nah, even at level 40 the bomb would move before me every turn.

IT LITERALLY SAYS HIS POISON IS REMOVED THE GAME GAME TELLS ME CLEARLY AND I POISON HIM AGAIN

do i fucking have to screen shot this shit?

how

Man, don’t have a fucking stroke tard. You just don’t know how to play jrpgs.

And again, medicine doesn’t remove poison you stupid piece of shit

Not even remotely. I think Sheer Heart Attack ALWAYS goes first no matter what your stats are and does 180+ damage. Beyond that most of his moves will fuck you up.

You can fight him later in the game.

He divides by zero

No it’ll be too hard for your pea brain and you’ll break something. Just stop, the game is only going to get harder and if you can’t play with one of the better stands you ain’t gonna go no where

No need to

Just go to the one piece wiki and steal some paramecias

I am playing right now and every time he rests he recovers from poison I don't know what to tell you.Either try it yourself or stop talking shit.

Broad personality groups essentially.

Then reapply it? Is that so hard to understand? He wastes a turn, you damage him, apply it again and wear him down.
How hard is such a basic tactic to understand?
Or do you think jrpgs are like western ones and bosses are push overs?

For some reason after the submaring my characters sprite became invisible, how do i unfuck it?

joykillerfag did you grind to 20 yet?

You’re too stupid to help my god

Not the other guy, but maybe grind some more before taking on him? I mean you can either surrender or grind and with enough grinding you should be able to beat anyone.

you actually are retarded, holy shit

Is anyone translating the new 2.5.3 version?

Man, you really are a girl gamer aren’t ya?

>mfw default RPGmaker music gives me flashbacks to playing VH

Post shorties

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This really proves that Joykiller is a low-INT stand.

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Yeah chaos user.

Who?

Our hero

Source pls

fuck off being edgy and cryptic user.
Tell us.

He pops up every now and again when stupid bitches aren’t screeching and shitting themselves

He’s onto the map events for chaos mode right now which means our translation will be here soon brother

Distinctive and short girls are based
Fat girl is redpilled
And average femc is cringe and the crusaders should sell her to Indians, Arabs or Hong Kong business men

Will it also have color or nah?

Nigga he shows up like every thread with progress updates get out from under your rock

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it is literally nothing but physical attacks and speed
which makes it amazing but it is not smart or special in any way. It just has really big numbers in the early game, and having normal attacks hit all enemies is amazing for grinding.

>「HIP 2 B SQUARE」
A long range special stand with the power to duplicate objects. Once the copy is created, anything done to the copy will affect the original target.

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He is going to work on that to he said, make it more like GBA color as a separate download as making it an option in game is a huge pain

but average lets you romance Joseph and is thus the best choice

I like how it melted Vins like the bitch she was

femanon here firstly it's not a general and secondly, have sex incel freak

I'd play average femc if I could get pimped out to hong kong business men.

I wanna be and fuck shortie

>tfw can't romance Holly

but Average wears leggings!

>can’t get the reverse harem end, with dio included

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doesnt matter since putting bunnysuit on ASAP is the only correct way to play for femmc

If the wheel of fortune user was born in a time before cars would his stand take the form of a horse? What about the emperor before guns, would it be a bow and arrow?

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aww

Now post the evil one.

>Dio/Ice/Hol Horse triple penetration or banging the whole Crusaders gang, Iggy included
tough decision

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No it's not. Dio comes with Jonathan's dick attached.

Eh, Joseph was better anyways.

But it builds itself on top of an actual car, imagine a Cinderella type make over to an edgy carriage that is to the horse and cart what wheel of fortune was to the shitty car

>crusaders and dio fuck boys try to figure out who’s shortie’s baby daddy is
>it’s actually Utah

A stand so catchy, most people probably don't listen to what it says. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It's also a personal statement about the user itself!

I don’t get it

Cool idea but for maximum meme potential it needs a raincoat and maybe a tie.

>It's Iggy

I always forget that Wheel of Fortune was Strength but with cars

>Not Howlin' Wolf

Again none of you actually have tried to do this with Joy Killer

I do about 17 dmg to him with knock down he heals for 23
When i hit him with the DOT I only do 2 dmg. This is at level 16.

It's like you guys don't understand what i am saying he heals so much all the dmg i do is rendered null joy killers dmg at M is so bad it's pretty much impossible to kill him at this pint even when he is backed into a corner he just rests takes off the DoT and most of the dmg ive done.

If I had this stand I'd copy all the women posters who pollute these threads, impregnate them and carve stop posting in seventh stand user threads on them. :)

Then either grind or give up, if you don’t have the patience to wear him out.

*Kars

That's actually pretty cool.

You’re hopeless. Jrpgs aren’t your game, you don’t have the mind for them

Just keep applying it then, if he takes a turn to rest that’s a turn he isn’t healing or attacking. This lets you slowly build up damage, or are you too thick to understand that

Or grind, if you really can’t be fucked to think

That's pretty cringe bro

There is no wearing him to it's like you fuckers cant understand basic English he is healing more than i can do dmg and removing the DOT. Literally the only way to win at this point is to get tomohawk at level 20 which requires 100s of battles and still id need good rng.

Roastie

HE HEALS WHEN HE RESTS HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKS

Better than being retarded desu

So is there a tier list for the Stands? Purely combat, I know certain ones like Cardigans and Deep Purple and Carpenters have more world interaction.

Which level are you?

Playing for the first time, got Joykiller. How'd I do, and is it useful?

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I’m sorry to tell you this, but I don’t think you’ll be able to beat this game.

It’s very good if you’re not fucking stupid like the bitch all capping above. So you should be fine unless you special needs like them

is there translate to malay or only england?

I think the top tier is like Deep Purple and Red Garland? I don't know much about Garland but apparently he's busted. Then below it would be super well rounded stands like Sonic Youth

>is it useful?
Yes. Literally everyone circlejerks about The Joykiller

Depends, are you literally retarded like this guy:
If not, you got a close range stand, which isn't all that good until later levels.
If yes, reroll for Ocean Blue.

Yeah, that’s a jrpg. Grind or get some fucking patience. This isn’t Skyrim

I'm level 16

did you guys honestly never do this and are talking shit?

It's like you don't know his move set when he retreats to heal out of sight he gets back up to 40 hp and removes any status.

This is my issue I don't have enough damage i at most do 38 to him every turn less if im applying poisin. I'm telling you very basically that he is healing more dmg then i can dish out.

I'm sorry that this is how you find out that you're retarded.

Just let Avdol do his job dude

You guys are just upset its joykiller

Joykiller is utterly braindead but is really useful. Its normal attack hits all enemies, and it does tons of damage early game. You'll be doing 70s when other stands are lucky to be getting 40. It's also fast as fuck so you often get first turn.

That said it is only good at Medium and Short range. At long it becomes worthless, it also has no special utility beyond being insanely fast and doing insane melee damage. At level 45 it gets a great status effect inflicting ability and that is all it gets for brainy mechanics.

It also has no overworld/sidequest interactions at all iirc, though the high speed can be used to catch the cat at the starting town with enough grinding.

you can use it to cheat at poker

Then grind or get some weapons to burn on him if you’re too dumb to understand our advice

>joykiller bad
squealed the NPC

>It also has no overworld/sidequest interactions at all iirc
Oh, damn. That was something I was really looking forward to. Is it a lesser experience or is that fine for a first playthrough?

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Your advice is literally what ive been doing every fight it's basic and not working.

Then let Avdol do it.

Then grind if you really want to have the “i dun did it” sticker.

Grinding let’s even the biggest retard beat jrpgs. It’s why japs are addicted to grind fests

I'm pretty sure that it has an interaction with Anubis, and if you have the Squeamish trait, there's some dialogue about that too.

They’re doing it for pride, but apparently don’t realize how to play the game to win. I guarantee if they ever get past this they’ll be bitching about every other boss at least

And an axe. And some newspapers.

I did it, I just didn’t go in for a hard fight underleveled for it and stupid, are you using any damaging items?

Last year, I completed this game sticking with my original stand, deep purple and I really dig it, however, following that, my presonality kinda changed so now I get different stands, but I think that it's a temporary change and deep down I'm same so I don't know who to stick with, help pls
holy shit this post is gay

>mfw using the lighter on Rubber Soul
RIP bitch

>hit level 17 with Caravan
>learn Submachine Gun, Flamethrower, and Dynamite at the SAME TIME
>hit level 20
>learn Missile, which is 60SP and does 'maximum physical damage'

i thought was just gonna have a cool merchant bro but holy shit i'm a walking arsenal

Yeah, I don't really see joykiller tard enjoying this game if he's wasting his time on an optional fight like this.

well Caravan is the one stand that mentions your personality changing
it also lets you spam fucking nukes as soon as you get 300sp

>tfw wearing bunnysuit through the whole game

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Then rp as someone else for the questions

Damn I can't find it
Friggin pixiv and fireden

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Caravan's a total bro.

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It’s really just fucking annoying,

The problem is, I get either cardigans or wolf, and their fucking personality description doesn't correspond to me
at least I hope

Does DIO react to femmc bunnysuit?

*she

Imagine being the joykiller and finding out your master is an actual retard

Actually, why can't caravan just spawn money?

No cause he only gets boner for priests of the homosexual variety

Isn’t kosher

Money has specific anti-counterfeit techniques weaved into it as well as the serial numbers. If Caravan just prints the exact same thing every time, you'd have the exact same bills and they'd be very easily spotted as counterfeit.

Caravan specifically mentions the trust between seller and buyer and not to break it. Items he makes also can't go very far away from him, so the money would disappear. My character asked him something along the lines of 'why can't we just spawn shit', and that was his response.

average male with japanese clothing is canon

But I refuse

God Tier:
Red Garland @ Level 50 with boosted stats

Top tier:
Carpenters due to being the absolute easiest way to reach max stats
Caravan with Nuke+An Offensive AOE Stand Skill taught by a Badge/Debug room

Standard Tier:
Anything not already mentioned

Absolutely bad tier:
Red Garland @ Level 1-49
Mr. BIG
Pixies

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Ackshually short girl dark side ending is canon.

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The fuck is that color? How do I get it if it's a patch or mod?

>Short
>Squeamish
>Can't swim
>Afraid of heights
>Bunnysuit
what am i in for?

But in that ending dio is arrested for sexually assaulting a minor

Mod, it’s not as stable as colorless, but chaos user’s version should probs be better

Life as a living onahole

>Being reasonable instead of O MY HONOR is a bad thing
this is why DIO almost won

>Pixies
I fucking did my entire first playthrough with this piece of utter fucking dogshit.

How do you get the squeamish trait?

Fo real cuh?

So does your character's appearance change the content at all?

Say you’re bad with horror movies, same text box where you can get pervert. some stands can’t get it

I know pol calls you fat in fog town and you steal someone’s food if chubbo

You mean the chad ending where you backstab both crusaders and DIO?

yeah, drastically one of abduls friends has a chance of raping you if you're average femc

t. Villain who doesn't have what it takes to hang with the Joestars

>can't be a squeamish pervert
Fuck

>2.50
>femmc still cant take the perverted trait

Talk to a guy who mentions horror movies at school and say you can't handle them. You don't get to do it if you have a support stand, Carpenters or are Josuke.

Sometimes. Fatties get extra HP but will eat food on their own, and the team often reacts to a girl being with them (but not in the ways you'd hope)

>No cause he only gets boner for priests of the homosexual variety
He has four sons, from four different mothers.
DIO just fucks anything in front of him.

She’d be forever pregnant around such masculine forces if you could

How much grinding should I be doing before I leave Japan? I'm not resting for the record, and also I'm using Joykiller if the stand I'm using impacts the answer.

This is a bit late, but the conversation about it is like this:

>Protag: Buy the way, Caravan...Why can't I just sell the items you make over and over for infinite cash?

>Caravan: Don't even think about it! The stuff I make turns to dust if it travels too far from me. Do it once and trust with the buyer is ruined! Trust is the most important thing in a transaction! Try to think in the long-term.

I think Araki talked about this and said something like Dio isn't capable of feeling love or affection for other people and it's more of a power thing than attraction

Nah, pucci spitballs his cum into those sluts.
And we don’t talk about the other three sons

Depends on how smart you are, but I was fine without it.

What a shame that even chaos mode doesnt allow fatty to shove up shitload of food and become polpo tier absolute unit

Okay you guys need to move boards now

God, that is so unbelievably adorable

Move all the WoW threads, threads about a 15 year old game, before you tell anyone else to move.

Doesnt stop them from taking people with outright villain-tier stands like the hand or purple haze

Nuh uh

this shit is ancient why is there a general up on all times now?

Apply for mod and do it yourself friend.

New update, and why are you samefagging now?

changing your format up, huh fag? we're never moving no matter how autistically you stalk every thread

They’re posing over the corpses of the crusaders

New update being translated
Mods being made
People picking it up for the first time
Retards refusing to learn how to play the game
People making their own sequels
Etc

Some is translating an update that adds a shitton of content and people are discovering the game after more exposure lately

Manga route or submarine route?

What a shame you cant get ZA HANDO in ng+
I'd really love to see this stand used by someone competent

oh ok

fuck off

Well, in defense of Pixies if it was an actual Jojo stand it would be strong as fuck and along with Miracles one of the strongest of the 18 Stands we can get. It just doesn't translate well to JRPG tropes where devs set out to give enemies plot armor against things they really should just flop down to.

none
If it's your first playthrough you don't really need to do any grinding until Aswan and Cairo.

Depends what you want, the submarine route is longer but is structurally very different to the rest of the game. I also found it the hardest part. It's also a fair bit longer than the manga route. Do it if you want any of the special Hol Horse events.

is this pic from twitter?

Is that an offer or a threat?

You probably shouldn't do the Sub route on your first go, but honestly as long as you don't have a short ranged stand you could be fine in the long run.

Nope, pixiv filename.

Play Koikatsu

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That's exactly why I chose Napalm Death tho.

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STFU fag.

k, cause pixiv only had 2-3 caravan pictures when i checked

You can change your name when you start the game and get the radio my man

Who hurt you sweatie?

I know but I didn't know that when I took that screenshot.

Chaos dude!
I summon you in these dark times!

>yes i use my real name whenever i have the chance to name my character how could you tell

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I went through every single pixiv tag for the game a year ago and have 1500+ pics

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A truly based stand

>was level 25 before even leaving Japan because Napalm Death makes random encounters a fucking joke

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Trans late please

You say that like it;s a bad thing.

Napalm death is literally discount killer queen, it even gets bites the dust

Wait, is this why my character enjoys looking at girls and Polnareff says he'll let you borrow the dirty mag if you get it in Calcutta? My character is a short male (so basically running as Koichi), and being a perv as a trait seems fitting

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explain

Yep, you got the pervert trait if you said you prefer x rated movies

>Using your real name, and not the nickname your friends always use for you
0/10

In Calcutta on my first play through. Is it worth it to grind gold for the sword at the souvenir shop?

Even if you can kill all the randos in one hit, like Joykiller or Sanders can, it's still fucking tedious user. I think you might just have the tism.

I couldn't grind past level 8 or so, it was just too boring and the xp/gold gain was too low.

Don’t leave Joseph alone with shortie

Are all bosses immune to the Instant Kill attacks? I know the accuracy is shit to compensate but I managed to land one on Captain Tennille before he jumped into the water.

Can I normally do that to bosses if I'm lucky enough or was it only allowed because it was an optional phase?

Nah just leave it for NG+, that or use a badge and save scum, although most of the time it's worth it to hold onto them until you have a lot before you use them in the over worlds.

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I did, so that's pretty nice. My character also mentioned looking at the thighs of the girls who asks to take pictures with Polnareff and Jotaro right when Pol joins the group. Also just did the cabaret thing in Calcutta and my guy almost died cause he was too busy staring at Murderdoll tits.

As God intended.

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Green doesn’t look good on Red Garland.

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>I think you might just have the tism.
I read Avdol's description of my character's personality and immediately felt like it was spot on. There's no goddamn way I'm not at least a little bit autistic.

>What stand and choices did you pick on your first playthrough?

What stand and choices did you pick on your favorite playthrough?

>25
fucking christ, even with Joykiller I can't stand grinding past like 8 in Japan. And getting to 20+ for the Polnareff fight is painful too.

Fair enough. I felt that way about Sanders when I got him. It's pretty damn on the money, the friends I introduced to 7th Stand User a few years back agreed that Sanders fit me to a fucking T.

The one where I rp’d myself at the time

You’ll be able to get pedophile trait in the update great chaos user is translating

>Everyone shitting on me all thread suggesting basic bitch strats literally the only person who beat Pot with joykiller admits you need to be over level 20

Well holyshit fuck you faggots

I actually really want to know what they are saying on this one

Wow based! here I'm happy I can finally rp myself accurately

We told you to grind multiple times, you fucking moron. It’s a jrpg, grinding is a cure all to all ills.
Including your mental impairment

How the fuck do you even function?

It's pretty easy to figure out with context clues.

Too bad, if you were a psychologist you would know not to use the meme letters. It's miers-brigg personality types which I probably spelled wrong but whatever. It's discredited in psychologist circles but popular among wannabe psychoanalysts and those who listen to the former.

>having friends

I was level fucking ten for the Polnareff fight and I merc'd dat bitch. Joykiller is just a shitty stand, mate.

Honestly why are you still playing? Why are you playing a jrpg when you didn’t think to grind when you hit a wall? I refuse to believe you’re that stupid . That is the most basic rule of the fucking genre

I still wanna read the punchline tho, it's like eating the pizza without the borders, sure you can do it, but then where are you gonna leave the borders?

reminder that all the anons lashing out at joykiller-chan are just butt mad incels who found out she's a woman and are attacking her for some perceived "inferiority" at children's computer games

Ahem. Attention to OP and anyone who decides to make a thread.
DON'T FUCKING BACKLINK TO THE PREVIOUS THREAD OR WE'RE GOING TO GET CALLED A GENERAL AND DELETED.
Thank you.

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You know it’s an odd feeling, seeing someone pretend to be you and reply to both your posts like they’re from different sources

The punchlines are her being so enamored with her cute bugs covered in barnacles that she doesn't even resist, her calling Anne cute after she freaks out at her beetle-face, and her something thinking that Hol Horse's hat would distract the boulder.

Go back to drooling over your keyboard

>Discount

Napalm Death is literally better than Killer Queen. Its time bomb is infinite retries at life while Killer Queens is for a day,has to be casted on someone and has a specific trigger. Also there's way more utility with Napalm Death too since it encompasses more aspects of bombs rather than just being an explosion.

Wow you’re dumber than I thought, you weren’t even grinding this whole time you were having a problem. children know to grind when they can’t beat a boss

People think non punch ghost stands are shit. Cause they’re retarded

You need to dump that shit in a google drive or something for all to download
this stuff is great

>falls into the ocean to save her stand bugs
cute

I'm working on organizing this shit as well as downloading twitter images.

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im on it gimme a couple minutes

I'm tired of grinding, bros

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The only joy killer Chan is that one tumblrite who drew a female version of the joykiller to go with her 7th stand user self who was boning polneraff. She was making some kind of fan fic or comic or something, had been made backstory and a whole mermaid side story comic

Also drew her and polneraff fucking up vanilla ice. Was kinda cute actually

This bitch in thread is just stuoid

Then stop grinding. Or take a break from the game and do something else.

What if shortie is kira’s Bastard daughter

But when is clayman going to add gay romance options and a trans gender choice

Kira would have been 23 during SDC, so I find it a little unlikely.

>Kira
>Having sex with anything other than a hand
It would be more likely for her to be his bastard sister.

My catchphrase sounded better in my head

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Time fuckery is involved in the game, so it’s not impossible.

Would work in a part 1 game

You named FeMC after the baby?

>shizuka
>he didn't go with shortie
come on user.

I'm getting worked by Don Cherry as Joykiller. What level should I be for this fight?

BASED

>chose heh...
>ends up being universal as a smug guffaw or nervous laughter

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It's just my go-to name for Japanese CaC girls. If I were playing a boy it would be Daisuke.

link to the colored version?

Shortie is the nickname

>If I were playing a boy it would be Daisuke.
Actually pretty based.

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>used to test for isfp
>now intj according to this
character development

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>not the cool default names

>intj
More like character assassination!

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I chose Shortie and my catchphrase was Baka!

thanks man

So do I play Average-chan with Cardigans next? Or Average-chan with Adam Ant?

>Not B-Baka!

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delivered

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>normally get INTJ
>get Howlin Wild
Did I go from edgy to basic at some point?

kek

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My Jolyne OC's catchphrase is "Bitchin!!"

>make catchphrase a sigh
>character's always out of breath or bored

myne is "Okay loser."

"God dammit"

my catchphrase is
"So I see..."

"Ah, shit"

"Is that so"

I wish catchphrase could be longer. I wanted mine to be "Quid Pro Quo", while imagining it be said in really really bad engrish.

Is there enough space for that?

Mine is Cha-ching. Guess the Stand.

Howlin'!

You have 10 characters to work with

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It's 7 spaces, I think the limit is 10.

Jew Bird.

Ah well I guess this answers my question!

The Hand

Exactly. And it uses fusion reactors to make some HOLY SANDSTORMS

Killer queen can one shot ko anything
Naplam death can't plus it's time "rewind" is shitty

Hold on...

>resets to a set point in time
Vs
>resets in a loop

Nah it's obvious you faggots never did it the guy posting had a level and everything you were suggest the strat i was using at level 16 like it would work.

No amount of "you dumb" will cover up the fact you are fucking posers if even one of you just confirmed i needed to be over level 20 it would be fine but you obviously had no idea what level i should be to beat him because you used easier stands or skipped the whole thing first round.

Also getting to level 20 is bullshit ive already done 100s of battles just to get to 16 I've palyed a fuck ton of RPGS and I'm even a disgaea fan and that shit is only comparable to maxing out rank 40- 2 weapons if not more time consuming

Why doesn't the people who died come back when you "rewind" time using naplam desth
That's because you aren't truly rewinding time

I really doubt you play anything beside mobile games

Why are you still here? You obviously aren’t going to beat the game or actually contribute besides bitching and crying
Because grinding is nothing, you just fished a name you knew out of a hat, you don’t play disgae. I doubt you’ve ever seen it’s box

I beat it using cardigans user you're just retarded so you couldn't beat it using joykiller who does way more damage thab cardigans at that point of the game

>napalm death can oneshot an entire room at once and be multiple bomb types including smoke, napalm and even a mini nuke
>it even has Mandom's kind of time reset instead of putting a whole day back where the user has no knowledge what happened or even if it happened at all
You're making a huge underestimation my dude.

probably gonna try this game again after trying it once 3 years ago. I got pharaoh sanders for my first stand; should I redo the test until I get him again or just go through the game with whatever I get?

You just keep making yourself look dumber, stop

Are you the guy trying to solo polnareff with joykiller?, good luck with that, it's almost impossible even on level 20, if you're desperate, extort freu for experience tablets and buy a lot of oolong teas, they're great to recover SP

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So basically from what I understand S stands are shit in this game?

And the best stands are literally Sonic Youth and Howlin Wolf?

There is such a big difference between howling wolf having to be level 15 tops to kill POT and Joy having to be over level 20

That is such a difference in power it's frankly crazy. That's literally hours of difference in game. There is literally no reason to choose a S stand in this game over mid to long range stands

No wonder jospeh and CuckOHin are so strong in this.

>I’m not bad at games you’re just lying, no one could possibly do something I can’t

We’re calling you retarded because you are

Oh only a 100 battles, that isn’t grinding. Maybe play an rpg more your taste, like Pokémon.

you can get infinite experience tablets from Freu for infinite max hp by continuously talking to him and then going into emporio's house, if you're stuck on polnareff do this for a while

Man, I really hope you fuck off before you get to Joey. Oh what am I saying , you won’t get past polneraff because you’re too impatient to grind and too stupid to just hang your head in shame and give up

Never tried to do it

Actually did it and knows why it's difficult


Seriously no one who tried to do this would not understand why im having issues the dmg reduction joykiller gets at M is disgusting. He literally hits POT for 2 dmg with normal attacks and around 17 with knock down if your luck 30 with Lai strike. you fucks didn't even know he heals during rest or that it cures status.

Killer queen leave no trace not even a drop of blood
Sheer heart attack alone makes killer queen better

>And the best stands are literally Sonic Youth and Howlin Wolf?
The best stands are Red Garland and Miracles, but they suck until higher levels

How does it feel to be actually autistic, but not in the way that actually makes you good at jrpgs. Just fucking grind you baby, if you’re so set on getting that badge.

S stands are lousy because a lot of the most annoying enemies start out in the M and L ranges which fucks with your damage. Some S stands are okay at later levels if you can handle the weakness.

100s you ape and again i play disgaea I know what grinding is and this shit is tedious
You faggots literally did not know his move set or dmg joy killer does at that level yet are talking shit thats poser as fuck

>too impatient
I'm fucking level 16 at hong kong I've obviously done hours of work already.

what happened to make the game suddenly pop up again? I remember threads a few years back, did it get a sequel or something?

The best stands are specials red garland and cardigans

It's debateable, but you are probably gonna have a better time if you use a (M) or (L) ranged stand. However Napalm Death, Specials and Deep Purple are very versatile despite that. It's all about knowing how to use your stands.

You’ve been on the same fight for what, a day or two now? Just give up if you refuse to grind, it’ll at least make you drop the game faster so you can stop crying that people are better at the game than you

I've already grinded for hours you faggots just never actually did it with joy killer the only two guys here who did actually told me a fucking level marker and said it was near impossible the jig is up

Sorry. Normally don’t take the helm and make threads.

I’ll keep it in mind if I ever have to make another one in the future.

>joykillertard is STILL seething, days later
lmao

Guess what, grinding takes a long time. I’m sorry jrpgs aren’t for you, but you shouldn’t force yourself to do something you don’t like
Or smack your head on a boss fight you can’t win when you can just beat it by not being stupid and fighting it at your current state

I'm playing Pharaoh Sanders and I just beat Devil at level 16 fairly easily.
I had a bit of trouble with Pol but managed to beat him on the 3rd try. Is Sanders just that strong because I never needed to grind and beat him around level 9-ish and not grind to level 20 like the other anons

>Its your fault for not grinding to half of max level for this one boss!!

Only thing I did wrong was pick a shitty stand and expect more than 2 of you to know what the fuck you are going on about

Keep grinding then. A few hours of grinding is nothing.

You’ve been not grinding for the fucking days you’ve been wasting trying to beat this boss.

In all honesty you’re the most pathetic fuck I’ve seen on Yea Forums

I got to level 15 with red garland in hong kong in about 2 hours

You just hate her cause she's a woman. Stay seething virgin.

Not your fault your parents coddled you to expect everything to be easy

Shh they won’t listen. They’re too stupid to

what the fuck is this song and dance skill i got from a book? i thought it was some sort of high jump kick but it doesnt actually do anything. Should I pick up laugh or bluff? If only for rp reasons just say so.

>Joykillertard is a woman
No wonder, now it all makes sense.

don’t you have a French man to not beat ?

I literally just started playing yesterday and got to this boss today. So obviously im not the only one with this issue
Again I play disgaea grinding can be fun but this shit is tidous

Go ahead and try to kill POT with Joykiller solo sub level 20. Why you are being such a fucking poser over jrpgs i have no idea.

>only people who agree with me aren’t lying

You guys are so defensive it's crazy literally just try it with joykiller and talk shit.

The only other guys who actually did it in this thread expressed the same difficulties as me.

Man, it’s really funny how you are actually being a poser when you say that
“No I play disage I good at jrpgs, you da poser. Whaaa?! Small grind! No no!”

They are the only ones who fucking posted the level they were doing it and the difficulty in doing so.

Everyone else just posted a shit strat and said you dumb

>only those who agree with me are telling me are telling the truth

You’re why domestic abuse happens

ENOUGH LEAVE ME ALONE STOP FARMING ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Because you are? And lots of people said grind. You were just ignoring them, because you are apparently so shot you can’t even grind

Dude you're not gonna beat Polnareff with Joykiller, some stands like Mr.Big or Caravan aren't expected to do shit to him. You aren't gonna get past him. Just have Abdul get him or get everyone to join in the second fight, because the only reason to keep trying at this point is ego. You could try drinking tea or sports drinks during the fight but it might not do much.

I mean, anons are just speaking the truth

Based Polnareff on permanent thot patrol

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Literally all disgaea has is the grind so im used to it. But the grind in this game is tedious especially when joykiller is one of the few stands that does not one shot flies and automatic stands

As it turns out im not the first to have this issue the stand just kind of sucks compared to other options. It looks cool but that's pretty much the most it got going for it.

THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF THAT FUCKING BUCCIARATTI, HE SHOULD HAVE JUST GIVEN ME THE FUCKING ARROW, I DESERVED IT MORE THAN THAT DONUT HAIRED MOTHERFUCKER!

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Never you no arrow haver

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Don’t waste your breath, they don’t understand any tactics beside “hit until dead” and have the patience of a child

Look at those subwoofers

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The joykiller, napalm death and deep purple are the best stands for grinding by cutting through trash mobs.
If you can’t even grind with him I think, no joke or insult meant, you might actually be a bit stupid

You will never reach the arrow

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>everyone says one thing you don’t agree with
>one person says what you want to hear
>he is telling the truth, everyone else is lying
Well, at least we’re sure you’re a woman now

Silver Chariot (S): "You're too slow"
Silver Chariot (S) is moving too fast for the naked eye!
(You) lost track of the enemy!
Silver Chariot (S) slashed away!
(You) is bleeding heavily!

Because having to grind with no way around it is dumb as fuck there should be a strat around it like most other games. I like being low level I like getting through shit with a tough fight having to just run back and fourth for fucking hours like i dont got shit else to do sucks.

Always been an issues with JRPGS nocturne is good because it does not force you to do that, even disgaea has wiggle room

But here it's either you have the M skill to hit all or you hit a nasty wall for hours or simple jsut never beat him and that really sucks.

Woman shouldn’t be allowed to play video games, but it seems like they can’t even when they try judging from the joytard here

>with no way around it
Let Abdul fight. Gang up on him.

Actually Sonic youth is WAAYYY better at grinding in hong kong at level 4 he one hits enemies at M range vs joykiller at level 15 requiring 2 attacks STILL for level 1 murder dolls

They literally are the only ones who claimed to beat POT with Joykiller or gave me a solid level to aim for. Did you do it? honest question.

>with no way around it is dumb
It's called let Abdul fight

Or you could, just not fight him alone. And let Abdul do it!
You know the intended way. I was on your side but now I agree with everyone else.

You’re a grade A retard, who is stalled because they’re too impatient to grind and too stupid to take the easy way out

(you) Nuclear Warhead was used

Finally

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Hey you guys stop bullying her she hasn't done anything wrong she's a beautiful person with a amazing personality plus she's correct what she's saying is true
Show tits

NG+ is a thing, and even so things like Twin Sword Polnareff are expected to be almost no chance to beat him on the first playthough. It's not that serious dude, know your limits.

You guys are such bandwagon fucks are you literally just all replying to me because you think I'm a woman ?

Are you faggots so desperate for attention? No fucking wonder I suddenly became the star of this thread holy shit what unironic nerds.

I didn’t have trouble carving through trash with joykiller and I was at most level 10 and probably much less when I was in Hong Kong.

Not sure on pot as I let Abdul fry him as it was what happened in the manga

So either you’re lying or you’re doing something wrong.
Have you switched your tactic at all?

I want to burn this mansion into the ground

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No I’m doing it cause you’re having a autistic fit
And you’re just begging for attention

There should be another way that requires more cunning like a certain pattern to his heals or a weakness to exploit. I get you fags obviously never did this with painkiller and i understand maybe you don't know the fight.

But why talk like you do?
Most people here did not even know he could heal status moves and thats pretty crazy to me how you could not know something so basic.

I just arrived at Singapore.

The fuck they do to my nigga Utah?

>I’m the smart

Oh just fuck off, you don’t like this game, why struggle with it still

I get past them fine with two attacks but it was much faster with Sonic Youth.

So, when told how to beat the boss without grinding a little, you call everyone else stupid. Because you don’t want to admit you’ve been wasting your time

Man, you sure you aren’t a chick?

A vampire got em.

I soloed pol with Mr. Big after extorting freu

I think you might’ve fucked your tactics somehow, or gotten crap stats via personality test results. Cause i was zooming through trash mobs

Not having done it with "painkiller" myself doesn't change the fact that you can have Abdul fight or gang up on him.

You’re why western rpgs suck donkey dick

What kind of fucking self confidence issues do you have with intellect man? Relax
Caught you faggot thats the post of some butthurt bitch if I ever saw one.

HA sorry your still not talking to a girl

See why we’ve been calling them a retard? They’ve been told to just fight him with Abdul all day, and have ignores it

youtube.com/watch?v=908kjmbjABI
still one of my favorite Eds visual wise

You know, if you weren’t stupid, you wouldn’t be in this thread, replying or be stuck on pol

I guess debug room with Josuke isn't allowed. Makes sense.

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You just keep taking his bait, holy shit.

I mean you sound very much like a girl, ever think about taking hormones?

Does it, the only thing i can think of is that it would fuck up with the story, i guess it's something about the coding, it would explain why you don't get a new game either

Really wtf? what tactics do you suggest and personality test can change that?

I used a guide to get joykiller but I just got sonic youth naturally and it felt so much stronger. Either way I doubt it will help much with POT since the 2 that did beat him here said it requires over level 20
I only play jrpgs though stop hiding behind the genre this balance is sloppy and Joy killer sucks for this fight.

Pretending grinding in hong kong past level 20 is normal for any jrpg is foolish at best unironically autistic at worst

For the record I didn't call anyone stupid just accused you of not understanding what my issues is and not ever trying the boss with the stand yourself. If that's being called stupid to you maybe you aught to be less sensitive.

Yeah being able to teleport to locations josuke can’t go would royally fuck the game up

My bad for wanting to solo POT with a cool looking stand instead of skipping a whole boss.
It's banter you fuck
Doc said my dick was too fat

Also changing stands/appearance and warping to normal endings would definitely fuck things up.

Personality test assigns base stats, this can be varied on what stand you get, there is a guide for getting the max for each stand with the exact answers for it
Tactics are a thing that give you a boost to one stat at the cost of another.
You either put it on something that lowers joyboys primary stats or left it at default

If you didn't want him to die you should of never fought him at the harbour

Why do you care so much to argue, and get mad with over a game you clearly hate? Just go play a different game, it isn’t worth it if you aren’t having fun

Thanks that probably is it I likely got maxed stats on sonic youth and lowered stats on Joykiller. That makes a ton of sense thank you.

And you keep falling for it hook line and sinker

Will I ever see him again if I don't fight him there?

In new game + 3 I think. He can help you get the strongest weapon in game but it relies on fucking bullshit rng

Hey, people making games for part 5, 6 and 7.
Are you planning on including pillar women

Only on the fifth playtrough onward, i have no idea why, but yes if you meet that requirement you see him on that village where you fight frantic amber (the girl that doesn't stop talking) and he challenges you to a fight

I love the game just sucks Joykiller is so bad at that fight. I'm sure he is great at other things but I hate POT as a person I always have. I know I could probably smash the rest of the game out and come back I'm fully aware but I don't want to just give up when things get hard. I grinded for hours already it makes sense i'd want to come here to see if I missed something or did something wrong before i dedicated more time since I can still start over with out much issue.

Surely you can understand that train of thought. But you niggers get so defensive it's crazy.

It's banter babe relax nothing to cry about

I hope the SU2 devs will improve the stand and OC art before the final release.

poor joykiller friend learning about ranged privilege the hard way
get ready for assassins and men on horses telling you to check things out. You're in for the long haul buffy.

That fight is bullshit, a grinded joykiller is one of the few ways to do it in the first run through.
Abdul crushes it cause he gets a bonus level and I believe stat bonuses for the fight and that fight alone but I could be wrong

Also, I remember leveling being faster than what you’re describing, like I had to be careful not to overlevel I feel

When's the best moment to use Deep Pass Overdrive, it affects the whole party so maybe it's better to use it on the mysterious ruins, where you'll be with dire and speedwagon

dunno what that has to do anything, but it makes me imagine some random variable of starting as a Pillar, DIO or Rock Human from an alternate timeline descendant unaware

The art is ok, they need to improve the fucking sprites.

Stand art is okay, character art is passable. The thing they need to improve is the combat sprites/animations, the souless UI and tiles and badly designed maps.

You got me there I want to switch to the dog or Sonic Youths so bad but how can you deny a stand that looks like fucking Jason and has a punk rock name?

Sonic youth songs sucks and the doggo is nigger

I hope the anons making sequels themselves actually do it

>just instant killed rubber soul in the cable car after the "MY STAND IS INVINCIBLE" rant he does with ND
>Jotaro jumps in and tells him that while his stand is invincible, RS himself is weak as shit
>"DO YOU UNDERSTANDU?"
>Jotaro started calling me by my nickname in this fight too
This game is fucking great.

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And make sure we can impregnate them

Yea I think I got a bad roll with joykiller as I thought it was weird he needed two strikes to kill level 1 murder dolls at level 15

based

In the debug room

I mean, It’s probably just that one fight. Joykiller is real nice later on. I melted the true final boss pretty fast and that’s a solo Fight. I never had an issue besides fucking Joey’s last form

I got Wildhearts and I'm extremely introverted

Yeah, he’s the speed close range stand, and the close ranges are all beasts. So I think you just had bad luck.

But taking that long to level feels off to me, cause I remember struggling not to over level just tromping around gathering fp

Personality tests are bullshit if they switch out even one question for another

>Follow guide on wiki on how to max the starting stats of your Stand
>Get a different stand than the one the wiki said I should get

Well leveling always is more fun when you get relationship points or some other bonus in JRPGS so you might have lost yourself in the game honestly.

Also remind you in hongkong the max amount of exp you get from a battle is like 30 but for most you only get 20 and you need thousands of exp points just to get from level 12 to 14
That's what i figured I do crazy damage to the stands in close range but as soon as they hit M for some reason i do maybe 10% of my dmg at times. The lai strike for example does over 230 dmg to the after images but only 30 to pot himself.

I got Red Garland when trying to get Carpenters. I feel that.

an eceleb started playing it recently

>intp -t

I answered Mingling/Trust for the F category, I chose the G answer for Joykiller, went to H, then I, then A, etc. just like the guide says
I got F-E:Sanders instead of F-G:Joykiller.

>As soon as user reveals that he is not a girl thread dies down

You niggers are so thirsty I'm surprised red cross has not come to offer you aid at this point

Who did? Just got involved with these threads as they're being spammed despite having the game for years

>(S)-lets
Oh no no no no

Bosses also have high stats. Range does have a noticeable effect, but I have a feeling it’s just boss buffness myself

I think it’s cause the people baiting him got bored when some one actually tried to be helpful by offering advice besides grinding

>nearly get vored by midler and shawty still gets jealous
lol women

Woolie played it awhile ago. Real reason is that, then some lad said he was translating the update so now we have these to be sure we get it

I think they just got turned on by being mean to a woman for once instead of the other way around honestly. Yea Forums has had an anti woman boner these past few years

Look, if you were surrounded by beautiful Greek gods who could use you as a fucking condom, you’d be pissed to if a chick with a better figure started to get their attention

Has he actually said something recently? i'm starting to get worried he lost his drive

That's because he left because he was wrong

How do you make the game colored?

I think that was one guy, and probably was just doing it because “it’ll make them mad”

He was posting yesterday nigga

No i just got good advice and im looking at the PQ chart now while lurking.

Nah I’m still here at least, not sure s about the others

user you really need to stop replying to yourself it's sad
you did the same shit yesterday

Play with Avdol in your party
*smirks at the camera*
*studio laugh track kicks in*

give it some fried chicken and purple drank

I mean, everyone besides Joseph and pol are colored

Schizophrenia kicking in pal?

Racist much?

No it's cool I'm not full white so i can say that stuff.

can we all just shun joysticknigger? it takes a Yea Forumsillage. This is a thread for jojofags who know how to play an jrpg. Not some cunny who can't understand basic pokemon mechanics.

Hey avdol gets to go to McDonald’s when he dies

How do you dead with twin blades polnareff? I'm going for the badge of honor but this fight is so hard.

I got it my first try, I had the joykiller though. No one shit talks my boy and lives. First badge I got I think

If you have Sonic Youths Recital then you can debuff him to hell, there's also a technique with those pyramids that you can by that you can use in battle. If Jotaro has The World then you could just try and spam time stop.

Now do it on a clean save under level 20 with the regular version if you cant the stand is officially shit and worse than the dog

I mean I’m pretty sure that means dog is worse than dog

doggie can just spam his M all hit attack though

Embrace your inner water nigga.

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Why would anybody be in Kom Ombo and not be over level 20? That's just silly.

So it’s better at a range it is meant to fight at, just like every other stand besides deep purple or hierophant green who have all the fucking ranges and more

How do i get Napalm Death? i keep getting Quicksilver

This is my first playthrough, and I have Pharaoh Sanders. I've been trying to get him with status effects but he claps my cheeks after he gets over it. Should I grind for the party healin item?

suck on your third toe from the left when Avdol asks you in you are scared of women he will wink at you subtely if you do it right. If not reset but do not change toes.

Shawty?

Short girl.
Also known as shortie
Also known in Ebonics as shawty
also known as I ankle
Also known as the perfect lifeform
Also known as the molester of old men

Donde estas los novo topico, amigxs?