Should indie devs listen to the fans more?

is this reverse-MTSP?

People get off to 3D barbie dolls with shit lighting and grain, this game right here is balm for my eyes compared to that crap.

Should anyone listen to fans? Do said fans provide a decent argument? Then maybe. Are said fans whinny little retards who instead go "WAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY DID/DIDN'T YOU DO X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"? Then no.

Simple, really.

That's some extreme sameface.

Just go poke around hgg.

>version 1.002ba Beta

They're related.

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god 3dcg is almost as bad as realporn
zero fucking effort involved.

Maybe simply start finishing what they promised to, LIKE THE FUCKING GAY ROUTES or actually deliver on other stuff the game had been hinting at.

To be somewhat fair I think they're supposed to all be related because people always start talking about incest whenever this game is mentioned

Go to bed, Mississippi, you're drunk.

>tfw used to watch his streams a lot
>tfw Darkcookie used to allow you to post any song that would be played on chat while he drew stuff and he still does
>mfw stream became comfy and I would always post meme songs
>tfw i no longer go to his streams anymore because he is not consistent like he used to be and I have no time anymore
>tfw he used to stream and work on the art 3-4 hours a day when he was at 6k a month
>tfw never donated a cent to him
>tfw always downloaded every ver of summer time saga for free and still do
>tfw idiots pay him 50k bucks a month while every new update takes half a year when 2 years ago he would do a new update every 3 months

I'm glad Darkcookie is jewing the fuck out of these patreon idiots kek

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wasnt incest removed from the game because of patreon policies?

They are just people who happen to fit into a family dynamic but are TOTALLY not related, because that's against the Patreon ToS.

OHNONONONO

>makes hsi best game for free
>gets 50k a month
>stop making games

really makes you think

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You can reeeeeeally tell they were initially going to make them all family, but altered the script to avoid getting shut down. Certain things don’t even make sense, like why does his “college” look and run exactly like a high school? Why doesn’t Jenny pay rent? It’s like insultingly poorly written

YEAH BUT GOD DIDN'T COPY PASTE MY FACE ONTO MY SISTER.

What, you don't like his chibi dancing simulator?

why dont indie games listen to me instead of the people funding their patreon

its not fair!
im a very talented ideas guy

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ANything before 0.11 had mom/aunt/sis in the dialogue

Darkcookie even said the final version of the game will be have the early script of the game with all the incest that was removed after the petreon shitshow

They were a family during its initial period but Patreon came knocking so they just CTRL+F and replaced all instances of familial bond with "lmao just strangers who live together but act like they grew up together"

Taffy Tales >>>>> Summertime Saga

Hey, the artist is human.

i edged for 6 hours waiting for the good stuff and the good stuff never came

Are you looking forward to this sequel to a hypnosis and incest game made on a platform that has banned both?

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>...stop trying to redo their childhood's classics?
The answer is yes.

That's not an excuse to ctrl alt del all your characters. Also he's making what, 50K? It's the same reason I'm pissed at gamefreak for making shitty pokemon

Missed opportunity dude, fucking someone who looks like yourself must be a trip.

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thats not robozou 2

I'll never understand the pride some people feel for not contributing to something they clearly enjoy.

Indie devs should make games they like to make and fuck everyone who doesn't like it.
AAA devs should listen more to consumers.

name

is this game actually worth playing now
as in does it actually have full penetration

Gib incest patch

Didn't know patreon nixed mind control though, that sucks.

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>fapping to western art
no lad, just no.

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Not even a 'maybe' bro. Pretty sure there's a totes not us guys promise :) mod floating around that changes everything back.

Sure
Just don't listen to Yea Forums or ResetEra

To be fair, the models had been improved. In some scenes they still use the old models though.

A good creator should always LISTEN to fans, but never blindly follow what they say.

This is the problem with all these fucking patreon porn games, they're ultimately ruled by fan demands, so you get get a bunch of-
>Hey man what if you put in a chick with a horsecock
No, fuck you faggot. Not every fucking porn game needs futashit. A good creator must be able to put their foot down and say "Actually, that's not what I'm going for with this, sorry."

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Summertime Saga. It's free from their own site but you'll have to grab the incest patch from lewdpatcher.com

>and the good stuff never came
Much like you

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Agreed but nobody on patreon is there because they have passion.
>but
no.

>ITT: retards that don't know the incest patch exists

>giving the money to someone you don't know over a game that is 100% going to be made anyways

I didn't think it was worth it was at $3k a month lmao

I'm just glad there are c/ucks/ out there who will gladly pay DC to make it happen

I mean the game was always advertised as FREE from day 1 anyway lol

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That mod is actually fanmade because DC and the rest of his mexican siesta crew were uninterested. One version even went entirely unpatched, because nobody else could be bothered reading through the spaghetti code.

Would this dev get a lot more money if this was Japanese art and not western?

I'm legit curious and want Yea Forums's input

Yes he did. You look like a fat guy, your sister looks like you but 3 pounds less.

There is so much soul in this picture

not from me, im okay with cartoony

Not him, but it's the "taking a cookie out the jar without permission" mentality.

>tfw hgame stops just short of ticking all the right boxes
whats her name v

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I have a friend that does patreon porn games and from what he says not at all, pornfags surprinsingly want everything sanitized and generic...which I think it's really counter-productive, especially in the case of my friend since all the artstyle he uses already is generic anime shit

it's the dev's way of saying
>these are totally not your mom, aunt and sister, wink wink :^)

Let's Meow Meow

Because literally everyone that starts a patreon ends up like this. Me forking over even a dollar isn't going to get the off their ass to work, it's just another dollar for them to collect at the end of the month.
Fuck em.

Are there actually any good Western h games?

>progress halts
it's almost as if they are now taking time to hire new people, rent out an office building, and expand their project
that can't happen instantly

Harem Hotel and Four Elements Trainer

please don't tell me you believe any of that

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>other dollar for them to collect at the end of the month
Yeah if they don't have enough of those they get a proper job and you don't get more games from them. So congrats to you

Do the games have actual hypnosis or edited out and have to be modded back in?

I think we need to define what makes someone a fan of something and not just a backer or consumer

Awesome I hate those fetishes

t. assmad patreon whore
Maybe do some work and I'll think about paying you.

anything with good cuck games where youre actually the bull and not the faggot getting cucked?

I want to FUCK Roxxy so bad bros.

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>pornfags surprinsingly want everything sanitized and generic
I think people here have a skewed perception thanks to all the ohio and tile fetishists (or without the jokes, extremes of flat vs mega, thicc vs sticc or whatever stuff /d/ is into this week). I would definitely believe that the vast majority of people just want their porn to be "an attractive, c-cup women sucks a dick then has sex".

It has nothing to do with being an incel. This game has horrible, unappealing art and it's obvious who have no standards. Tapping to this is like tapping to Simpsons or Family guy art. It's horrible. Look at their fucking faces lmao. Their cheekbones.

for 2 (two) updates a year
and those updates remove old scenes

The boy looks just like my roommate who legitimately has a sub 90 IQ and all the girls look like female versions of him.

Devs should not take feedback at face value. If they're going to pay attention to the drooling masses and their conflicting demands, they should be trying to identify shared underlying ideas and concepts that make sense in the context of their creative vision. What they tend to do instead is react impulsively whenever someone says something mean.

Her update came out a long time ago, you can

I pay for complete games.
If Dark ever hits 100%, I'll toss him some sheckles. Until then, he can go fuck himself.

Didnt play it since the ending was added but the hypno was intact then as it predates the patreon ban. As for the incest, the game starts with dumb jokes about step-twins and handwaves the whole thing. It seems to have worked or at least no one cared enough to do something about it. Fuck, imagine being the guy on patreon that has to play every fucking 0.01 game to check it for the wrong kind of porn. Even if realistically its just going to be someone checking then maybe confirming reports sent in by users.

Alright, might take a look at it sometime then to see if the sequel's worth bothering with.

Someone could work 24/7 and you wouldn't even consider giving them a cent if you didn't absolutely have to. Don't trick yourself into thinking you're someone who rewards hard work.

>Should indie devs listen to the fans more
when it comes to porn games, no

No. Indies are fucking garbage. Way worse than indies 20 years ago

wow struck a nerve.

name one (1) (unum) indie game that is not a porn game.

You could do that a while ago, even her mom and friends.

Do some research yourself. Using google is not difficult you useless piece of shit genetic dead end. Seek assisted suicide you retarded fuck.

chairgtables.itch.io/iwillneverlosetocock
enjoy

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No chance. Nip market is flooded with shitty ero games.
The only reason this got popular was the incest and western visuals.
Believe it or not, there's now a bigger market for anti-weebs than actual weeb.

> start playing good girl gone bad
> at the end felt like shit and lost any urge to jerk off

i'm too nice guy for this shit

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Stop replying to him you autistic faggot. Fuck off and kill yourself.

ok, name another one
>this fucking cocknugger
Have sex

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no, instant consumer feedback is the reason most games/tv/movies are shit now

>have niche fetish
>despite this have lots of high quality porn games

>vanillafags get this garbage and are happy with it
why
with an audience that big they could demand so much more

Remove yourself from the gene pool you piece of shit niggerfaggot.

Tell us what niche so we can almost certainly disagree with your claim of it having quality games.

Large audiences are inherently docile and passive. It's only when your audience is small that you have to make sure to keep them satisfied.

did you drop a chromosome?

You're supposed to keep her pure or at worst go lesbian you fucking retard.

can't wait to fuck the black tomboy bitch. sucks that i'll have to wait until 2020 or so

>hudur I don't know how genetics work
Kill yourself you dumb incel.

More like 2021

LoK Rebirth

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you think i download those game to keep her pure?

neither do you. But you really are mad.

That art style reminds me of the kind of porn I used to fap to in 2007. It was the same kind of fetish too.

>creator makes game catering to your specific fetishes
>gets no attention and you're afraid they'll dump the project at any time

Why can't I just like what the majority likes

The best way to put it is that the average person likes two fetishes and hates four, so when you start piling up a large number of people you end up with more demerits on every fetish, and the only thing everyone can agree on is generic vanilla porn.

Witch hunter trainer or whatever was the name.
I can't get enough molesting tomboys

No, fuck everyone.

>look at how mad i am at somebody making money
what the hell is this

Anime is way too overplayed. Gets boring.

Honestly, a couple fetishes like mind control, hard non-con, and corruption are really well served by the current era of western games. Back in the day all MCfags had were rpgmaker shit like overwhored and harem collector.

>not liking futa
You already have 1000 normalfaggot porn anyway why do you care if some artist caters to what other people like? Besides, you don't belong here if you don't like futa, fuck off.

>CoC
>played as a 8' tall cow sorceress slut
>fight Jean Claude
>he talks about how teasing him won't get me nowhere even though he gets a huge stiffy himself
>defeat him
>think Im gonna get a hot rape scene with cute lizardman
>"ima just kill myself LMFAO"
I've never been more blueballed

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That's why the only worthwhile porn games come from creators making shit that they like without apologizing.
Once they listen to requests too much they end up with this bland generic garbage. I'd rather take the risk that I'll run into some weird shit

If is crowdfunded like this one yes of course they should , they are basically those backers employees .

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It's not even the kind of obnoxious person like Beldelfine or Boogie selling their modern days snake oils, it's an actual artist doing art and videogames. So I really don't get why this would anger someone.

cause the good ones get more money from commisions and tend to abandon the project half-way through.

I like how you didn't deny being a weeb.

I always thought the only reason /d/ existed originally is because there was a strong split of people liking or hating futa.

nah, people are paying for something different. there's tons of japanese art games out there like this and no where near enough western style.

Only patron game I like is some RPGMaker thing made by a Russian guy.

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The "good ones" don't have the energy to make videogames. Art takes a fucking lot of time and effort. This is good for what it is. The guy has to keep it simple because it's a video-game otherwise it would never be finished.

It wouldn't be like this if the industry embarrassed pornographic video games.

Imagine AAA porn games? that would end this trash

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The way I see it, the guy is incredibly afraid that he will lose his fuckhuge revenue if he switches to SS to save the incest

Might as well make another stupid game then

embraced

Not him but he's obviously right. Seems like HE struck a nerve.

>AAA porn games

That would be the end of the fucking industry as we know it.

God I want to delete the existence of this piece of shit abomination and everyone who adores it.
I cannot comprehend what type of human thinks this is worth "backing", let alone calling it good quality

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why because there would be nothing but porn? it would be alot better than what we're getting right now

How is it that there is absolutely no middle ground between making a text game or having to draw/model 70 CGs? I just want to make an enjoyable game loop that doesn't require a thousand hours of work.

Fun fact: futa was barely a thing back during 4chans inception and only really exploded in popularity around 2010-ish

Nowadays it's so fucking prevalent it should have its own board.

AAA and porn dont mix well together since their aim would always be for taking most of your money even from your children

and with porn you can only take money off middle aged kissless virgins, incels and degenerates

>Lilith's Throne
>only two "poses" for three+somes if you're a dom male
I feel for those that play women, since I think there's only spitroast

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I just downloaded this, has the free version made a lot of progress?

He responds to his paypigs,especially them hogs who bumped him to 50K.

Fuck, please no. Sex needs to remain underground otherwise it just turns into degeneracy. My city has a sex fair every year and that shit has been normalizing raging homosexual a lot lately.

I would actually compare it to investors. If you don't please them, then they will pull out their assets

No, but it would certainly look better

You are ironically those kind of people that always want to hold shit back just for the sake of fucking other people over

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And yes I've seen pics with families with kids next to those gays like it's the most normal thing in the world. Teaching degeneracy to children is not ok.

Pitiful, but also hilarious response

lilith's throne is full of shit thats aaaaalmost there but not quite.
Like he has all this stuff he keeps adding but can't keep up with actually letting you use it in interesting ways.

Milfy City 0.6 FUCKING WHEN?

where the fuck is my porn game revolving around tall women

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*Dick in hand* guys does the free version have a lot of progress or am I gonna get blue balled? Anyone

That's what I say, the same friend who does this now used to do rpgmaker games when we was in school, the same thing happened, he made some comedy games that were great for rpg maker but then got a following and listened to them so his last game took 10 times the work of the older ones and it was one of those generic adventures

what is the name of the game?

Seconding this

Bayonetta in one hand mode

>tfw you dun goofed

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Oh God I'm diving in then wish me luck

It's almost like adding too many variables to your game will either skyrocket the workload or make most of them completely inconsequential.

Of course the game isn't going to acknowledge that you have eighteen springy purple self-lubricating prehensile nipple pussies per breast, every snippet of text in the game would need a billion variations if that were the case.

how tall are we talking here?

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Whose route are you looking forward to?
Me? Judith and her mom. Ronda second.

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You can fuck eve now?

amazoness, not giantess

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If nothing else I wish it would acknowledge my trying to stuff a 18in horse cock into something.
No game, I did not "just" penetrate them, that was a fucking event.

I hate how giantess inevitably turns into vore.

Who is Judith's mom?

I'm listening.

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S-source ?

Take your guro cyoa and fuck off

>LoK Rebirth
is there any content yet? or is it just another walk simulator?

it's not good
the page is from her backstory where she gets cucked by her sister and her arc is part of a larger story about how some women have a rare disease that makes them de-age and they have to kiss the main character because his saliva helps prevent the disease

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Recommend me some good western porn games bonus if it has loli.

Oh for fook's sake

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>good
>western
lol

Fans are all retarded

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Americans are actually retarded, there's nothing wrong with sex or nudity

Play my game, user, I'm working on it every single day. It is made with love and care for details, I want to also give your heart and brain a boner.
Also it's funny.

Yes. Add Victini Argon-Vile.

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What's this?

My game, user!

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Didn't he take out some of the sister's scene because fags complained they were rapey?

just stop dude

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looks cute

oh my god the art style is horrendous

Source for god's sake

Boku no Saucenao

looks dumb

I'm not American.

And yes, homosexuality. Which is pretty much shoved in your face in those sex fairs. Sex needs to remain discrete because kids shouldn't be exposed to homosexuals and grow like that's something they should accept.

Most porn is dumb.

looks degenerate

Maybe the art isn't great but it's serviceable. And if 52 thousand anons, or fewer rich anons, think it's worth it then what's the problem?

All porn is degenerate.

>Only patron game I like is some RPGMaker thing made by a Russian guy.

Don't mention game without say name of game

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Kids shouldn't grow up around heterosexuals and learn that it's something they should accept.

>No preg scenes
Why bother?

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>Don't do this in public, especially around children
>WOW STOP HOLDING US BACK

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dumb ESL frogposter

Jesus, how do you not know sameface sage was originally an incest game?

Literally every person alive owes thanks to hetero sex you mongoloid, keep doing nothing of value

It was a fetish game at first but patreon banned it

double this question

Subverse exists, seriously where are all you normalfags coming from???? Not knowing about subverse or not knowing SSS was an incest game

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>Not knowing about subverse
oh i guess thats not AAA enough then if i dont know about it you fucking nigger

>Subverse
>Crowdfunded literally who game
>triple A

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Donut lady.

>game has orc women

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>StudioFOW
>literally who
I agree that it's not triple A but this is just being disingenuous

Who?

It really sucks. I'm just sick of Jap games, anime art, Jap writing, etc but all western games have to have garbage art and never finish.

>Subverse
A fucking scam.

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is that from coc2?
god that game has so such an impressive feature bloat

its really cool from a technical viewpoint but does it need all that stuff for a smut simulator

Still waiting on that Jak and Daxter comic to be finished, you slav fuck!

Yeah it's from CoC2.
I don't think the feature bloat is that bad. I like that it's pretty "gamey" because it allows it to keep my attention when I'm not horny, rather than some games where I'll completely lose interest in after I put down.

>that sameface
Lame. Are the nude boobs saggy though?

>sameface saga

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Imagine being this retarded but thinking you know what you're talking about.

I prefer that other incest game with shota protagonist and /fit/ sister.

google them you nigger
if you've been here as long as you should or aren't fucking underage then there's a 90% chance you've seen webms of their animations

looks wholesome

In the games defense, those characters are supposed to be related (well not anymore due to Patreon, but ya know.) The sameface isn't as bad with other characters, though it's still there a little.
And fuck yeah the boobs are saggy.

Which one is the not-step mom?

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I watched the "fixed" Jenny scenes on pornhub. What did they do to my girl? Literally the whole appeal is gone.

>Not him but
Cringe. Shut your whore mouth

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and they all trash your point? not even the guy you replied

Every game with only one non-cowtits character. I hate that normal-sized breasts on petite girls is considered "lolicon" now.

What are they like now? Are they completely ruined?
Also them having canon names kinda pisses me off because I had my own names for all of them.

...

Who pays for this garbage?

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/weg/ is a cesspit

Yea Forums is worse and you can post lewds there.

Is that meet n' fuck?

My nigga, haven't seen that name in years.
it's more than a decade old

No, it's Summertime Saga. Some scammy Patreon VN-shit.

next patch

>MILFY CITY NEVER EVER
I JUST WANT TO FUCK MY GOBLIN MOM JESUS CHRTIST

>Sameface Saga - 56k burgershekels
>Under the Witch - 300 dollars
absolutely sad

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>Sarafag central
seriously is there anything worse than the "pure innocent little sister" archetype? It's all fucking trash "o-oh user-sama I love you" in the middle of a fucking blowjob like shut up bitch I'm trying to cum FUCK

can you fuck the black qt athlete yet? Played this years ago and she was the one I wanted

So are western games so shit that nobody can recommend any

With loli? Insexual awakening is the only one I have seen.

I genuinely think that someone shills those shitty porngames to normies so they get that much money, because anyone who's interested and genuinely looks at their options would NEVER back shit saga over anything.
There's been so many better projects but most of them are pretty much "never ever" or intentionally stalling so they can enjoy patreon bucks.
That game looks interesting, I'll look it up but I don't back these types of games, I just wait till they're finished

nope, but you can see her naked a few times

because no one likes you or your pedo shit

>v0.1
What did you expect?

4ET has some good 18yo lolis in there

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>not even the guy you replied
Yes, clearly.
Read the fucking replies you absolute ape

Why are you do mad, did someone rape you as a kid?

The Sarafag was bullied out of there recently. He only returns to leave his threadly bot post and ran away with his peepee between his legs.

June vs Erik's Mom, which one is better?

The good ones are all gobbo-shit and you spergs lose your shit over them.

play more games

Good, do that to everyone else who play any of those shit 3D games on that thread.

At least those have content. There are barely any active 2D devs and the handful that are left are all slow as fuck.

dont know about june, but tammy can hardly be beat

Got em

Shit games with content are still shit

Still better than having to talk to 3DPD or jewish porn with pedophile rape victim performers.

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Holy same face people fap to this?

Number one adult game on Patreon.

Anyone got any recs for light femdom games?

I'd recommend Vampire Lust if it ever gets released.
Witchload if it ever reaches 1.0

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>thread is autosaging
based jannies

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Zero ever since they started banning shit patreons turned to shit

going to ask the same question i did /aco

would you guys play a trainer game based on a famous card game anime whitout any card gameplay?
i dont want to bore the player with the card shit but not having any form of card gameplay would not be respectfull to the source material.

Just incorporate the cards into the story somehow

Then what would it be? Just prerendred scenes / spirtes dialog and porn?

other games are somehow diferent than that?

Just let us use those cards to do shit to characters.

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No, but you're selling it in a vague way so I wasn't sure. I'm making something similar too actually. A story element that's usually interactive stuff but in VN form with dialog option interactivity at most and porn to sell it.
Yes, I'm cancer. I know.

idea is that, and use kaiba VR system to summon monster girls

>literally video games
>auto sages
Sasuga tranny. Make sure to buy AAA with your pay!

just let the main character be Kaiba and win 1st turn, and the like.

see

Weg only talks about nasty 3D shit though. If it got better people would actually go there.

This board is for all things video games, faggot. Don't see you autosaging pokemon threads.

/stg/ then