What the fuck did he mean by this?

can you imagine

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That's not even fucking close to what happens in SH2. If that's how Silent Hill worked, James wouldn't be able to walk into Angela's or Eddie's nightmares like he absolutely does. Everyone perpetuates their own monsters into existence in SH2 but they exist for everyone else too, just like how the monsters in SH1 are a manifestation of Cheryl/Alessa's fears. The idea that Silent Hill is a therapy town that shows you what you're afraid of and only to you so you can get over your demons is bullshit started in the non-Team Silent games that came out after 4 because they were too stupid to understand the story.

I hate sh2fags

She'd probably enjoy it.

He's referencing how the cult consider the monsters to be divine beings. But Heather misinterprets it and thinks he's saying she's been unknowingly murdering regular people.

That is exactly what happens in SH2.
Everybody seeing diferent things. Eddie's otherworld looking like a slaugther house, Angela's is always on fire or is a flehsy thing full of pumping pistons, Laura doesn't even mention a otherworld. Also only James and Eddie confirm that they actually see monsters about, Laura's town is empty and considering that angela is defenseless it makes sense for the only monster that she sees to be the abstract daddy.

The town made him stupid.

the true meta of silent hill

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Tell me Yea Forums, what would your silent hill look like? mine would probably be full of monster cats.

Probably full of trannies, jannies and niggers.

yes, but she'd also pretend not to
probably scream insults and threats at you the whole time, thrash, bite, and spit

What you see is the reality being twisted, not your character's personal delusions. The fact that the monsters don't appear in front of Laura is pretty obvious, otherwise, why wouldn't James see them when she's around as well? James is able to see the flames and the meats hanging while being with Angela and Eddie. the door monster is literally there in front of Angela, and you can see it too, just as every other character does. There is no "other world". This world, the only one you see, is changing. You're not being teleported to another dimension, trying to go back. You're supposed to think it is, for a while, and then realize everything is real. Just like Harry does in SH1. It's no different for SH2.

That makes sense. I always assumed he was making a joke that she was killing innocent humans who she was seeing as monsters in some schizophrenic haze.

>A completely dark no-faced figure wearing cleaning overalls and a big sweeper in hand with a huge gaping wound between his legs that spits out corrosive pus if you get too close

We're already living in it

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Im a neet, so SH4

Early installment shit but it always bothered me how crazy Harry's Silent Hill is. Entire Streets are missing, there's no water or transition like James does (Yeah I know PS1) and the hospital in particualr seems to be missing it's backside but you can explore it just fine.

Heather just gets a hotel and couple of foggy streets.

when does harry realize everything is real?
Also there is a real transition between the "fog world" and the "otherworld"

That's what Heather took it as, which is why she was horrified.

Nope, it doesn't make sense.
>I always assumed he was making a joke that she was killing innocent humans who she was seeing as monsters in some schizophrenic haze.
That's what a lot of fan theories are about, but they're all wrong.
Laura is just too innocent to see some subtle things around that aren't supposed to be, and hasn't encounter any monster or twisted reality so far. There is some room to theorize, but the devs went out of their way to show enough clues that tell you that everything that you see is actually real, happening right there, in your face. The thing that is diferent in SH2 is that since the environment changes depending on different characters' personal corruption, which actually drives them crazy, you're led to assume everyone is hallucinating at all times, and this only happens at the end of both Angela and Eddie's stories. But James doesn't lose his mind to that level, and is able to escape.

>what Vincent sees

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the same silent hill a billion other NEET's would go through.

considering how many people there are in the world it would probably be pretty flooded actually
>every single NEET in the world converges into the same silent hill
>proceed to do some crazy 300 man pikmin/Lemmings IRL speedrun
>outnumber the monsters like 50 to 1

It took me 3 tries to appreciate the Silent Hill trilogy.

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"This may sound really off the wall, but listen to me. You've got to believe me. I haven't gone crazy and I'm not fooling around. At first I thought I was losing my mind. But now I know I'm not. It's not me. This whole town. It's being invaded by the Otherworld. By a world of someone's nightmarish delusions come to life... Little by little, the invasion is spreading... Trying to swallow up everything in darkness... I think I'm finally beginning to understand what that lady was talking about."
IIRC he tells that to Cybil, last time he meets her before she gets the parasite
Other than the one at the hospital, where he was actually dreaming (which is why the cutscene had that sepia filter on) there is no "transition", and there is no parallel reality. In fact at the end you can actually see the things changing in front of you in real time, to clarify that it is all real.

How can you not love the games?
The level design is so unique, the otherworld is one of the coolest game worlds of all time.

stop my boner is TOO STRONG

He wanted to have the best line from the game.
He puts doubts in both Heather's and the player's mind and then goes "jk lmao", it's so good.

Based

Thata actually terryfying and fits well in SH bestiary.

In SH2, James only sees Eddie and Angela's nightmares because he is coming to terms with his own guilt. He can understand their fear only after seeing his own, which is why he only sees their hell at the end of the game

>baby is born
What would you like its gender to be?

>James only sees Eddie and Angela's nightmares because he is coming to terms with his own guilt
How does that make sense?
Both Eddie and Angela are descending into madness, and each interaction with them shows you that they are only getting worse. Their inner darkness is so strong at the end that the reality around them changes more than ever, and that's why you see it.
Why would his guilt have anything to do with the appearance of others' "nightmares"? There is no personal version of the thing for each character. What you're seeing is reality, it's just the spiritual power bringing the darkness in them to life. Not to them personally. To everyone.

Bro you're overthinking it. Basically the town shows whoever's in it their personal nightmare, and because Laura is a child who hasn't experienced anything to feel guilty or fearful of, she sees the town as it is. Take your game theory bullshit to reddit

harrys brought into a different version of SH at the beginning, hes pretty much always in the nightmare version it just occasionally gets worse when the sirens hit.

james on the other hand seems to travel to the real silent hill but is sometimes pulled into a twisted version, theres no misty middle version for him.

they look like angels to Vincent

>overthinking it
Everything is explained, it's not my fault that you don't get it, and I'm not theorizing anything. Still want to be that retard that doesn't get it? whatever suits you, retard

its not really a differnt plane or anything the power the cultists revere as the old gods power is quite literally the power of the town itself. Yes the landmass, it waxes and wanes with goings on causing the sort of shifts that appear. It's not really sentient or anything it's like an environmental hazard of the psychic variety. Just a ton of shit happened here and now this place is like a giant projection sphere filled with disembodied emotions and shit

The guys who made the game disagree with you

Do you think that there is an objective Silent Hill and is it occupied normally? I don't really buy the different dimensions thing but it's hard to tell if the town is abandoned or not from the way it's presented.

crushing loneliness and hyper sexuality it would be an empty place with no porn or dirty things I could find going through people's things

My silent hill is my life

>Do you think that there is an objective Silent Hill and is it occupied normally?
Didn't James use to go there for vacation?
There has to be

Reminder that Silent Hills has been canceled and will never be a thing.

I guess it hinges on whether you think theres a real living city there like in 4. Or you think it's been largely abandoned since Alessa backfired (again). I personally think its abandoned since most material and going on that are referenced there like james time with his wife such were before that. The cult pretty much had a cartel town going with the white claudia thing so I dont see same people sticking around through that

A town of that size doesn't just vanish in America.

show me a quote

He's referring to the average white penis, implying that the player is delusional because clearly no white penis can be perceived to be a "monster."

too spooky for me anyway.

That was way before the thing with Alessa happened

yeah, and in SH1 there are other people living there and working there. So its either abandoned after SH1, or there is a parallel dimension for troubled people and the real silent hill inhabitants just live happily in a misty seaside town, unknowing that in another dimension someone is brutally tortured in their bedroom

Wasn't SH based on some abandoned mining towns in middle Aemrica? I mean an extreme case Silent Hill obviously looks like a place that's supposed to be inhabited but ain't but at the same time I feel like it's supposed to feel abandoned even in real life.

>and in SH1 there are other people living there and working there
They all dissapeared

I can't decide if it's been abandoned or if it's just an illusion. 2 seems to be the outlier, douglas and Heather stay in the motel in 3 and the occupation seems more recent. James just seems to wander through every long abandoned building in town as a metaphor. I don't think it's entirely abandoned, if at all.

Tourist traps live and die all the time.

watch fucking jacobs ladder, the the overweight cerub explains it all.

nope

Centralia Pennsylvania in a very vague sense. It's not directly based on anything it's just like a thing someone saw and was like what if something like this was caused by a psychic phenomenon and how would that happen?

An entire town's inhabitants vanishing into the netherworld and it turning into a fogged out nightmare would be on every front page. SH operates on Goosebumps logic though, so maybe it did.

>We

Speak for yourself, faggot.

time might not pass there the same as it does in our reality. They could have talked to an impression of a hotel clerk from 17 or 20 years ago you just dont know. They expected him to be there and the town just projected it from what forms and figures it has

lot them were run off by the cult the towns population had been dwindling for years

the hotel was empty, you fucking moron

The motel across from Riverside Park. Where you get the doghouse key.

well it could be now they dont show anything between the car and her sort of waking up there. Its left out intentionally

I don't mean literally. I just mean that SIlent Hill is like a half abandoned tourist trap where if a guy just disappeared no one would give a shit. SIlent Hill 3 at least implied that people disappear when she went to the otherworld because she goes through a whole subway system without meeting a soul.

In sh3 Douglas mentions silent hill as a place he used to work in, post sh1

There had been tons of disappearances and missing persons before and 4 implied James was one of them. I could see you he town dwindling after the alessa incident.

Missing persons, wasn't it?

You think they'll ever release proper HD versions of the games?

>konami
not a chance in hell

The missing persons were people sucked into the otherworld, people don't dissappear to allow the otherworld to form. It sucks individuals in to it,

He's been working for 30 years according to him, and the events in SH1 happened 17 years ago. He never explicitly says he worked in the town in recent years.

Silent Hill 1 remake made by the original director when
New Siren game, the series that's the actual successor to Silent Hill,

Some of them were just whacked by the cult. That lake seems like a nice place to drop anchor if you know what I mean.

But really we're talking about how Silent Hill is just enough of a dead tourist trap that no one notices. I've been through a few of them that give off the same vibe.

It just doesn't make sense for there to not be multiple dimensions. Why would the mall and the town be abandoned whenever the entities began influencing it

wouldn't you just run the fuck out if your neighboor's dog turns into a demon and literal darkness takes over in a city led by a fucking demonic cult?

If people began seeing monsters then the police would be called. The FBI would investigate the town or some othef 3 letter agency

Then why does nobody know about literal demon town?

it's a fucking town in the middle of nowhere, radio produces a lot of static in the presence of the monsters, Cybil shows that she can't communicate with others through radio, so if you were a police officer, in a small town, financed by a demonic cult, and suddenly everything goes to shit, wouldn't you naturally run away?

Anons are arguing that it isn't some concrete layer cake of Worlds and that there's more nuance to it. That's why we're arguing over the objective state of the town.

it's simple, a God comes into your house and he turns your walls into hairy black dicks, with the power of darkness + your own personal guilts
was there a parallel reality where you were being fucked by your own walls or something?

If they ran away they would probably try and contact another police department. Anyway the fog world has no exits. All the roads are falling into the void, you physically cannot run away.

Then people just literally disappeared, no one really cares. The point is that there is no answer to that question, intentionally, but the town didn't work anymore after the events of SH1. The only people who were left were some cultists, probably hiding. Or maybe they just left at SH1 and came back later. The roads stop being blocked after the God dies, and things go back to normal, sorta.

If the god already has the ability to bring the otherworld into the real world then why does he need to be summoned. He could just spawn a bajillion split heads in the middle of new york.

Why do you think he was scared of her all the time till this moment?

If heather was really killing people this whole time then why, at the end of Silent hill 3 dosen't she get arrested

She was killing cult members back and forth with her magic powers.

If every Silent Hill protagonist had been unknowingly murdering people, that'd be a pretty awesome twist.

Not the whole time. Just in the end part of the game.

(S)he's a local syncretic god and it's all just a manifestation of belief powered by the energy of the town anyway. Heather is the reincarnation of a powerful psychic witch and probably the only reason silent hill 3 takes place where it does at first.

Could have been only killing people who were dragged into the Silent Hill world too. Impossible to find those bodies.

There is no "otherworld"
He isn't the one projecting the nightmares. Alessa is, because the God is growing inside her, literally. The God brings darkness into her, which torments her with the images you see in the game. Her psychic powers make those thoughts become reality.
The God dies, the darkness dies, Alessa also dies, things go back to normal. People who left won't come back, people who died won't resurrect. The God can't do anything on his own, since he's just a fetus. The spiritual power of the town is what made all of this possible.
This is all explained in the game, this is no theory. The fact that you ask such questions really shows you need to play the game

Because God was inside her the whole time and he didn't want to piss it off. Also Heather may have spent the whole game killing cult members, so he didn't want to be next on her shit list.

do you people really feel good with yourself with such bait?

>Heather may have spent the whole game killing cult members, so he didn't want to be next on her shit list.
That's exactly what i meant.
In silent hill 4 you can read in Joseph's article (that was written during sh3, if i'm not making this up now) that cult is gone now. Logical to assume the were wiped out that day.

Harry's Silent Hill being the craziest kinda makes sense since he's actually seeing Alessa's Silent Hill, and her life was so fucked up at that point, on top of being a psychic with a demonic entity living inside her, that her broken mind made up the craziest otherworld bullshit.

Ok if the god was just a manifestation of the cult, then what is the mentally ill man in Brookhaven talking about when he mentions the angel that consumes sinners

a manifestation brought on by his own mental illness. It's not like they're in there for no good reason.

lmao reminds me of this

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