Be honest, you want this

If you asked me this a year ago I would have said “hell yeah” but honestly I’m kinda getting sick of lazy remakes that cash in on nostalgia. Let’s just get a new game instead

Better SADX with mods is good enough for me.

>06
>proper

No becuase they would actually make it worse than the originals.
sonic team cant do anything right which is pretty weird because every other sega team is doing jsut fine and puts out actual high quality products.

At least it had a good OST.

I love the casino song

Why? So they can put shitty low effort EDM in it and have Sonic make dad jokes?
No thanks.

Replace Heroes with Shadow the Hedgehog and i'll buy it

no I don't. Adventure kinda relies on being a bit of a janky mess for the sake of charm and the other two are just flat out bad

t. youtube e-celeb drone
I bet you never actually played it

No, I want Mania 2.

I can play any of the three games on the OP on my PC.

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Not particularly, no.

Replaying them recently shows very little of the games hold up, and Heroes is a dumpster fire of death pits and controlling like a shopping trolley on grease.

>Heroes
No thanks

sa1 and heroes suck and sa2 is pretty good

keep playing them with nostalgia goggles rather than ruining them for yourself with a remake

You know man everybody always says nostalgia goggle this and nostalgia goggles that. Fuck you. I’ll enjoy what I want. I enjoyed heroes and SA even more

Being a Sonic Unleashed fan, I do not support such collection, since I believe SA1 is the only good game in the adventure series. I do not wish future sonic fans to experience such abominations.

I said it before and I’ll say it again. This 3D Sonic shit needs to stop, 2D only from this point forward.

I want that in a garbage bin. And you, too.

it better be a whole set of new levels. Getting sick of seeing old shit and nothing new over and over again like the Zelda 2D series.

Yeah, I have, even the final story. I didn't just jump on the "let's pretend this game was actually an underrated masterpiece because Premydaremy said so" bandwagon. I'm not just gonna start giving previous games a free pass just because 3D Sonic's been kinda shit lately.

I want a new game that improves on the Adventure style, not just remakes

Is heroes part of the adventure timeline or is it it's it's own thing?

pretty sure its set after adventure 2, hence why rouge is like 'wtf shadow how'd you get here' at the start

I do, but not from Sonic Team. I\d rather trust Phantasy Star Crew with a Sonic game.

Replace Heroes with a Sonic '06 remake then I would feel like pirating it.

>3 BELOVED GAMES
Hahahahaha

Actually, I want a reboot of this

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Say the Adventure-era games DO get remade: would the original scripts still be used, just with the current VAs, or would they be rewritten by Pontac and Graff?
I'd be cool with either option. Just please fix the pacing in Adventure 2's cutscenes.

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Only zoomers and nu-millenials like the Adventure series.

I'll give Mania credit for at least going so out of its way to make the old levels feel as new as possible which helped a lot, but yeah, all new is the way to go.

I don't, Sonic Adventure 1 was shit, and like 90% of Sonic Adventure 2 was shit, and the other 10 percent was mediocre platformer. Sonic fans should be gassed

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Adventure 1 came out in '98, user. You're telling me a game that was released before the new millennium is a "zoomer" game now?

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Well yeah. But Sonic Team would never be able to pull that off individually, let alone 3 games worth.

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That was honestly my only gripe with Mania. Just give me more good OC zones.

If I have to go through Green Hill zone or Seaside Hill one more time...

>They remasters those
>Only Sonic is playable in SA and Sonic and Shadow in SA2 and Heroes
Not really, not while Iizuka and Kishimoto are still there

Sonic Heroes with proper physics of Adventure 2

YES PLEASE I NEEEEED THIS

>Amy's, Big's and Gamma's levels wont be any less shit just because they have prettier graphics
I'll give you Amy and Big but Gamma's levels were great

None of you played Adventure during its release, let alone on a Dreamcast.

I think Sonic Heroes had a ton of potential and once you got used to the controls wasn't actually that bad. I wouldn't mind a remake/sequel with the kinks worked out.

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>remaster
No, I'd want a remake with the kinks and bugs ironed out. Differentiate the levels between sonic heroes stories.
Make the chao garden be a constant progression thing between all of the games and with new content.

I don't think Sonic Team would be able to pull it off in a million years though

>(((remakes)))
just give me an open world 3d sonic game instead

Who's to say the people who did play Adventure at launch wouldn't have liked it?

Yeah, DC fanboys would definitely denounce its big exclusive. I guess Super Mario Sunshine is great too.

>Remake Shadow sounds like an angry edgy fuck instead of a cool and calm mysterious character.
Will the remake be worth it bros...

I really do honestly. I don’t care how badly these games aged I’d replay them in HD in a heartbeat.

>DUDE REMEMBER THIS GAME
>AGAIN
can we make new IPs please

>an angry edgy fuck
So Adventure-era Shadow then

If Sonic Team were to chase after the success of Crash Bandicoot (they are definitely going to), I totally expect them to make the gameplay even worse than it was in the original.
Also they wouldn't remake three games, they'd remake Adventure 1 and sell it at full price.

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>SA2 gamecube kiddy calling anyone else blinded by nostalgia

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You think you do but you don't.

>remake the worse adventure game that doesn't have shadow

Autists would have too much of a fit for them to consider that.

Anons give me shit when I say this is the best Sonic game in the franchise, when you pull back the memes and bad game designs, it's peak Sonic. The fan remake is already proving that.

>my penis can only be so erect
WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME user?

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>it's a good game when you take away the things that make it shit

No. I'm sick of Sonic rehashing shit.

Change Heroes to '06 remastered and it's a deal. Also have an option like a Classic mode to replace Story mode and skip all dialogue.

SA1 with SA2 physics and cutscenes would make it better than it's sequel by far.

Name a 2D series that hasn't gone stale. Even Mario and Megaman shows that 2D can get repetitive. Sonic wouldn't last 30 years on 2D alone.

Sonic '06 is better than
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
Sonic Lost World
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sonic Riders Zero Gravity
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Forces

But memes rule that it's the worst of the series. This is why we'll never have a proper Shonen Sonic again.

>better than
>Sonic Lost World
>Sonic and the Secret Rings
>Sonic Riders Zero Gravity
>Shadow the Hedgehog
>Sonic Heroes
You guys are gonna have to point out the sarcasm sooner or later because right now I'm laughing my ass off at you, user. And you wanna hear a secret? I didn't laugh.

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I'd rather have Unleashed and Colors and Generations remastered and rereleased

I want this

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t.Boostfag who thinks that Color's kiddie ass artstyle Is what the series should be like

wow you have awful taste and are fucking stupid

And you'd be right, I do want it.

Just play Sparks 2. Although it honestly feels unfinished.

Fuck that noise, just give them the Taxman treatment

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Lost World - Looks like a N64 game in 2011, plays like shit and takes itself too seriously. 06' still looks nearly as good as Unleashed.
Secret Rings- Waggle controls and forgettable game except the super boss. Piss story and ugly graphics.
Zero Gravity- Riders 1 was GOG. Way to ruin the mechanics and make Mario Kart look good again.
Shadow - Gun gameplay and Heroes physics. So it sucks ass automatically.
Heroes- The Adventure killer right here and soft reboot no one wanted. Good concept, terrible execution.

'06 did everything better than these. Shadow was at his best here too. Criticism aside, it aged better than all of these games.

>sonic 4 style

Advance Revamped is the answer. Sprites only, never 2.5d please. Wide screen, co-op, online multiplayer races, and more characters please.

Mario’s 2D formula is stale because it does fuck all to innovate, the “““new””” Super Mario Bros. Series is garbage. Mega-Man was still evolving it’s 2D style and making it interesting with its iterations look at classic Mega vs the X games. You’re acting as though Sonic can’t do different things in 2D when it’s done it before and been more successful than 3D critically.

>Sonic Advance Remastered
>Sonic 4 style

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>06 still looks nearly as good as Unleashed
Didn't read the rest lol

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15 years later and I still don't understand why people considered Sonic Heroes "terrible"

Most people(including me) played the PS2 version, which was by far the worst one

>3DPD Sanic
That's a hard, loud, ear shattering YIKES from me

Considering we don't have Rush 3, Advance 4, or even Sonic 4:Episode III, the 2D games aren't selling well enough. Even Forces outsold Mania for some weird reason.
Megaman isn't selling like it used to and many agree that Battle Network/Starforce was a better direction. Plus Megaman X is dead dude, Megaman 11 didn't sell well either.

At least there's Mario Maker, because they ran out of ideas now. I don't see a legit 2D Mario game (except the port) coming to the Switch in the future.

not that user, but hd sonic is underused and I want realistic settings again.

>lost world takes itself to seriously
The game may be bland but it isn't (heavily) broken.

>Even Forces outsold Mania for some weird reason.
I need a source on this before I continue this discussion because this is just out of nowhere.

only if pic related was included

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i played that too, but that's all I played so i don't know how or if the other versions were better. I liked it but I could never get like 3 of the emeralds and could never beat the game.

>Even Forces outsold Mania for some weird reason
I'd honestly be more surprised if it didn't.

Only on PS4.

It was known as SA3 internally at Sega while it was being developed iirc

Sonic's always sold more on Nintendo consoles anyway

I honestly wouldn't. Heroes is one of the worst games I've ever played, straight up, it's an unpleasant experience on every single level and I can't imagine the depths of autism one must sink to in order to find it even tolerable, let alone decent or good.

And Sonic Adventure 1 and 2's early 2000 aesthetic is integral to the experience and it would undoubtedly get lost in translation.

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Stupid kids buying cool Sonic boxart Forces, before babby looking Mania. They prefer 3D over 2D and the Sonic Dash Forces app advertised the game. Also, it was there when the Switch was fresh on the market and people ate it up.

>tfw gamma's va died
who would voice him in the remake? i don't know if i'd want him to get a new va since i like steve brodie's voice a lot, but i'm sure they'd have to.

>Sonic Heroes
>high speed
Not even if the entire soundtrack was made by Dragonforce.

That game is slower than molasses

How about you make an Adventure game without voices at all? Mania did it right.

>Zero Gravity
Now I want SA3 with the gravity dive bracelet as part of sonic's moveset.

that'd be pretty hard to do, given that adventure's story has a lot more to it and is decently well known for the jankness of certain lines. OH NO springs to mind, for example. i think voiceless fits classic sonic really well and that mania did a great job, but overall the story is pretty simple; eggman find ruby, ruby change robots and make world fucky, fight robots get ruby. adventure is more intricate, what with all the shit about the echidna tribe and chaos, and adventure 2 is in the same boat with the ultimate life form stuff. modern sonic just doesn't fit being mute.

Colors sucks.

Then make it like Sonic Battle. Great story because reading makes the voice acting much better in your mind.

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i only care about adventure 1 desu. adventure 2 is fine as it is and the team system in heroes sucks.

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>No chao garden

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This game was nearly flawless

>Still no accurate source on the sales of anything
Guess I’ll continue
>Megaman isn't selling like it used to
Neither is Sonic and it isn’t because of the 2D games.
>many agree that Battle Network/Starforce was a better direction.
And many agree Mania was a step in the right direction and a proper return for Sonic
>Megaman 11 didn't sell well either.
This is a meme
rockman-corner.com/2019/02/capcom-reports-strong-sales-for-mega.html?m=1
That’s almost 2 million sales totaling from 2 different games, despite the X series being “dead” but still staying true to its roots.

This SOUL vs. SOULLESS shit is getting out of hand. Yeah most of those games are bland garbage and 06 did have some kind of creative spark in it but it was still a giant fucking embarassment. I don't care that Shadow was less of a joke than he was in ShTH and Heroes, that game straight up committed murder on almost every single other member of the cast.

Also,
>06' still looks nearly as good as Unleashed.
lmao.

not really

No, because Adventure DX is broken as shit compared to the Dreamcast version and that's what their remaster would be based on. SA2B is also inferior to its Dreamcast counterpart.

Sonic Heroes?
I never finished Heroes, one of the stages kept zipping me off a railing into bad cameras and through a wall

Chao garden was shit.

at this point i think it would be too weird to go back to a text only story for me having gone with voices for so long, but that could turn out really well. even so, if the gameplay was good, i could enjoy it with or without voice acting.

I want Sonic Riders instead of Heroes

I guess I was wrong. But Legacy I and II collection shouldn't count because it's a bunch of ports. Not a remaster. Meeting expectations, but failing to rank in "Switch Top 30 in Japan" isn't good enough.
>Mania - proper return for Sonic
Umm. Yes. But what about Adventure fans? This thread entirely. Modern fans got what they wanted, Mania fans got what they wanted. The least they could do is remake Adventure so the last batch could be satisfied and then the series could be 2D only or die.

You're right. Except no other Sonic game looks as good as '06 and Unleashed.

Generations doesn't count reusing level designs and artwork. 3D Classic Sonic looks like garbage too

Unleashed is the best looking Sonic game, period. But Generations' models and textures are outstanding, it doesn't matter if they used old designs as a jumping point. The designers of that game, if anything, deserve credit for taking those old designs and seamlessly translating them into a modern aesthetic. Old stuff like Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary looks fucking beautiful in the modern levels.

Sonic 06 isn't even in the top 5 because it's aesthetic fucking sucks and there's tons of unrefined, ugly textures. The human characters are ugly and blocky, Elise looks like some kinda fucking bird and the animal characters are all too tall and lanky. The enemies are all really boring military-type mechs or generic demons without any of the spark that Eggman's robots should have. The only model that looks okay is Eggman and even then, it's still a weird disconnect from his normal look. I'd rather look at SA2 or even Sonic and the Black Knight before Sonic 06. At least Black Knight understood it was on a system that couldn't do intense graphics and compensated with a cute woodcut style that still gave you cutscenes that were appealing to look at.

>But Legacy I and II collection shouldn't count because it's a bunch of ports.
I brought them up because they were still closer to traditional Megaman, which is the point I was making with Sonic. People still praised them and bought them despite being simple ports.
>But what about Adventure fans?
>The least they could do is remake Adventure so the last batch could be satisfied
>satisfied
They’re most likely setting themselves up for disappointment and possible death of the brand then and there. Modern Sonic Team has no talent, I would be all for these remakes if it weren’t for modern Sonic Team’s track record with this franchise in 3D. But as it stands, it seems worthless to me at this point. Sonic has proven more successful in the 2D space and that’s where my mind will stay until something fucking changes.

how the fuck can you think think, the gameplay was the most tedious thing ever

>Sky Sanctuary
It's not yellow. No thanks.

>3D Sonic bad, 2D only good
yeah...until we get SA3 or remasters, then my mind will change. Until then, Adventure fans won't give up, no matter how obnoxious Mania purists are.

think that*

D Sonic bad, 2D only good
>yeah...until we get SA3 or remasters, then my mind will change. Until then, Adventure fans won't give up, no matter how obnoxious Mania purists are.
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Sonic 06' stages are some of the most beautiful settings you could get. Unleashed and '06 proved Sonic could work in realistic settings. And SA2 and '06 gun mechs are nearly the same, way to be inconsistent. Fighting demons is similar to Secret Rings too. Human designs, nobody cares, SA2 humans were ugly as fuck too.

So what is your top 5 graphically superior Sonic games?

for

>Just please fix the pacing in Adventure 2's cutsc
SOULLESS

Honestly the game isn't even in the top 10 of the worst things i've ever played, it's PLAYABLE but just miserable to run through. And yet because I know of what happened in development, I really can't fault the devs for anything besides the awful plot, and even that's likely from a first pass that was forced through to the "final" product more than anything given how they had to hand-animate a few CGI scenes because they didn't have enough time to get the opening/ending outsourcing done for shit.

Has everyone finally agreed that Forces is average at best yet and stopped trying to push it as an 06 tier disaster?

The funny thing is, I’m not a Mania purist. It’s not even my favorite 2D Sonic game. I’m not saying 3D Sonic is always bad either, I’m just saying it isn’t worth bothering with it if they can’t stick to something and refine it, as it’s mostly these “experimental” 3D games where they chuck shit a wall hoping it sticks damaging the franchise.

Pretty sure the only people pushing Forces as 06-tier were shitposters to begin with. There isn't some mob mentality on it but the general consensus all around the net was mediocre and undercooked.

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It's worse.

G.U.N. mechs were generic, but you had fun stuff like Artificial Chaos in that game and most of the bosses were fun and creative. I didn't play Secret Rings so I can't comment on its enemy design. SA2 humans were butt ugly, but '06 came out five years later on vastly superior hardware and they barely look better than SA2's humans. Unleashed was 2 years after that on the same hardware and the humans in that game look fucking eons and decades better.

>So what is your top 5 graphically superior Sonic games?
1. Unleashed
2. Generations
3. Black Knight
4. Colors
5. I dunno, maybe Mania just because the art design was so incredible.

>unleashed
>realistic setting

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Completely false, Forces was just another mediocre game to add to the pile of Modern Sonic.

>Sonic 4 style
Fuck that noise

I'm just so fucking tired of boring, mediocre games that keep trying to be Colors without any of the charm or fun of that game. I also hate Forces for actually turning boost into Hold X To Win. At this point, the boost gameplay has been severely degrading every game its been in since Unleashed.

>me
>wrong
>ever

You’re honestly implying no one here bought a Dreamcast?

>fun stuff like Artificial Chaos
After Shadow, I never want to see those things ever again.

If Mania is in your top 5, then Sonic Advance/Battle looks better in spritework and design. Everything else in your list is fine.

> SEGA remasters Sonic Adventure
> they use the fucked up PC version of DX

Please no. Please don't pull a halo anniversary edition.

>Sonic Advance/Battle
>better in spritework
user you can't be serious

>Sonic Heroes
I mean... if we have too... I suppose.

Doesn't make it proper.

>Sonic Advance/Battle looks better in spritework and design
This. Based as fuck

Sonic Advance Mania will be the best of both worlds. Sprites in GBA we're GODLIKE compared to 16 bit.

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Didn't play either, so I'll take your word for it.

Let's just agree on the ugliest fucking Sonic game.

Sonic Chronicles.

*were
whoops

Sonic Lost World would like to say hello. Making classic style 3D in the worst way possible that makes a demo like Sonic Utopia look way better.

Sonic Lost World looked fine.

Nope.

Hahahaha. No.

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Literally soulless.

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The 3D world in Sonic Jam unironically looked better

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Moron

>Sky Sanctuary isn't yellow like in the classics so 06 looks better but also fuck classic purists

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AHEM
sonic blast

Call me a moron again, faggot, not online and see what happens.

youtube.com/watch?v=P97paIXMEFc
SOUL VS SOULLESS
And '06 had tons of soul.

You're a moron, user. Get off Yea Forums and try /sthg/ instead.

I don't. I want a NEW fucking Sonic game. NO MORE FUCKING REUSED SHIT.
There are far better examples for a "Adventure" styled gameplay than the one created 20 years ago, so fucking move on and drop it.

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SONIC FORCES WAS FOR MODERN FANS
SONIC MANIA WAS FOR CLASSIC FANS
GIVE SONIC ADVENTURE A CHANCE!!!

>le 06 is SA3 meme

As alludes to, Heros, Shadow, and 06 are all Adventure style games, but none are SA3. Heros and 06 have about as much in common with both SA1/2.

You are thinking of Unleashed, and even then that's largerly a misuinderstanding.

I think allowing you to preserve more mometum out of actions/character switches in Heros and cutting down the amount of hits enemies takje/getting rid of all the enemy kill gates alone would do a lot to improve heros.

see above, that's my main issue with it. It's got none of the sense of flow as SA1 and especially SA2 because of how often you come to a screeching halt.

It'd probably get new voicework but I'd hope there'd be an option to still use the originals, complete with the voice line interuptions. It's part of what makes them entertaining.

>zoomers and nu-millenials
That's the same thing retard. The rest is still correct, though.

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Where are the beloved games?

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t. Didn't even play SA2

Advance sprite time

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I enjoyed Heroes as a kid because I was a colossal fan of the franchise in general, especially the Adventure series. Some of the tunes were also real good bops, especially Team Dark's theme.

Replaying it now though, it's pretty bad. Janky even for a Sonic game.
youtube.com/watch?v=pQ-bjZD1EnI

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That was before the Werehog idea came along.

It's the best "direction" of Sonic tone wise. Surface level wise. Not gameplay wise. And no, the beginning of my post isn't even fact. It's (You)r's opinion. And opinion that no one can agree on, so by definition, isn't the "best".

The day people stop liking a concept over its execution is the day I might not decide to kill myself. But that day won't happen because humanity like this one is retarded.

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Good shit.

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>Sonic wouldn't last 30 years on 2D alone.
Yet Kirby does and still does. At least that's what their fanbase claims.

>try playing SA2 on steam
>plug hdmi into tv
>music comes through my bookshelf speakers
>sound effects come through my computer's built in speakers

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Well, that could be kinda coo-
>In Sonic 4 style
INSTANT DROP.

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Watching Advance sprites take me back. Super Mario Bros Z couldn't happen without these.

Best is a definitive adjective. But sales-wise and popularity, it wins by far. It's unforgettable after nearly 15 years from it. Memes, rage, best of Game Grumps, or snarky "Sonic was never good" videos. Isn't that a game with soul? Or does Forces and Lost World get mentioned as often as '06? Not even Colors gets talk anymore.

Kirby has been mediocre since Squeak Squad (except Robobot). I've played Kirby for years and to say "Kirby doesn't have any bad or mediocre games" is a lie. Super Star Ultra was it's peak. Kirby had good 3D games like AirRide which proves it worked too.

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Give me a Sonic Battle remake

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Wow, I have never seen something so retarded and so untrue than this post.

>Megaman X is dead
>But people still bought the ports
nigga, I still want X9 just as much as SA3. It's not fair.

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

silent forest is cool though

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No, why the hell would I want to play Heroes or 2/3rds of SA2 again?

That looks visually unappealing and I have no sense of direction. Which way is up and down? SA2 Green Forests looks miles better than this. And Adabat from Unleashed says hello.

>Advance 4
It's called Rush. the DS was a 3D capable system, blame Nintendo for forcing 3rd Parties to abide to their gimmick.
>Rush 3
It's unironically called Unleashed. It's literally the sequel to the Rush gameplay.
>Sonic 4:Episode III
Because the first episode played like SHIT. Fucking zoomers don't understand why things happen every fucking time.

>Call a new game the 4th entry to the beloved trilogy of the 90s Sonic era
>Plays nothing like the fucking 90s era games
>Use modern Sonic despite the fact you're ACTIVELY pandering to the "back in the day" era of Sonic, hence the name, hence the nostalgia pandering which started it all to this day
>Expected people to lap it up when Sonic Retro smelled the bullshit from a mile away from the very first reveal trailer
>Makes a "better "sequel" that A: should have just been the first attempt at least since you couldn't figure out how to do classic gameplay right and B: It still was worse than the actual classic gameplay (which Mania years later BTFO'd to all oblivion)
>It dies, not because it's 2D, but because it WASN'T A GOOD SONIC GAME.

With your retarded misunderstanding of logic, why do you think Adventure gameplay died? Oh right, it's called SONIC 06 AKA THE NEXT GEN SONIC ADVENTURE 3

Kill yourself you sack of zoomer aged, mentally challenged shit.

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>Advance 4 is Rush
Then Sonic 4 is the sequel to Sonic 3.
>Nintendo forced 3rd parties
No. Not even close. 2D sprite games on DS that didn't used the touchscreen exists. And you have no legit proof.
>Rush 3 is Unleashed
If you said, Colors DS, I would've believed you. But wrong answer, retard.

>Sonic 4 block of text
Adventure gameplay was replaced by Heroes because SEGA softbooted Sonic to be for younger kids, hence the McDonalds toys, new voice actors, and childish story.
>SA3 is Sonic '06
Then by that logic, Mania is Sonic 5 because Sonic 4 legit has that title first.
And thanks for showing your age boomer. Sequels in Sonic work by numbers, not by special titles like the Fallout series. Kys oldfag.

Jeez user you didn't have to murder the poor lad

No gameplay dies. Classic gameplay was revived by Mania, expect Adventure to do the same, except the fans remove everything bad about it. Just like Mania removed the corkscrews in Flying Battery and made it fun.

Sonic Unleashed doesn't have Blaze. I'm sorry that you weren't aborted.

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You can only do so much with "gotta go fast" in 2D.

I fucking hate you Advanceniggers so damn bad it ain't funny. Advance looks better animation wise than the original classics, but Mania is on par to that, but with 10x better coloring and shading bar none. It would have been differernt if Manai didn't create a single new animation for the characters and just added more inbetweens for the animations, but no, they have made NEW animations, among which for 2 veteran characters, with one never before used in a 2D styled Sonic game with the other nearly retooled from the ground up since his last 90s apparence. Stop with your fucking bais, the Mania revamping really makes the flat shaded ADvance sprites with a smaller resolution look dated now. Even that Modern Sonic mod for Mania makes Advance look dated now. Just deal with it and cope.

Oh, and this doesn't even go into what that user really was referring to, which is the environments looking exactly what Sonic was known for since fucking 1992. with Sonic CD, perfecting the fantasy realism that Sonic makes the most sense i.

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Silent Forest is legitimately the best looking stage in the game. If Lost World as a whole had the same aesthetic as that stage instead of the bland, borderline Fisherprice look a lot of environments had (like the desert and beach areas) then it would have looked much better. Would have resembled a 3D version of Sonic CD.

I thought some of the underwater mine cart stages looked nice as well.

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No, Sonic was never good.

>SONIC FORCES WAS FOR MODERN FANS
A sad case to claim, since it was dogshit
>SONIC MANIA WAS FOR CLASSIC FANS
Which was thanks to actually compedent classicfags knowing how to make a Sonic game worth a shit.
>GIVE SONIC ADVENTURE A CHANCE!!!
They did, it's called 06. So it seems like the thing you want is Adventurefags to stop being whiny sacks of shit, actually take the time to recreate the Adventure formula one to one like Taxman did to the classic era, and then make their own Adventure Mania like Taxman did for Classicfags. Because Sonic Team can do any of this shit right, since 2 of the 3 was by them and the 3rd wasn't, and was by fans. You follow?

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Bill Nye your mom's a guy.

I mean, I agree with but I think Mighty and Ray's sprites look pretty bad desu

>Sonic Unleashed doesn't have Blaze.
So Sonic 06 is a Rush game?
>Then Sonic 4 is the sequel to Sonic 3.
False, because Sonic 4 DOESN'T play like a fucking classic game nigger. Rush plays exactly like Sonic Advance 2 esepically, right down to the "boost mode" being streamlined into what it is today.
> 2D sprite games on DS that didn't used the touchscreen exists.
But SEGA isn't smart, and does what Nintendo tells them to do. Hence why they first jump ship to their own rival after they died at the end of the 90s.
>If you said, Colors DS
That's Rush 4, Unleashed came first and Colors debuted with the DS game.

>hen by that logic, Mania is Sonic 5 because Sonic 4 legit has that title first.
NO BECAUSE THEY DON'T PLAY THE FUCKING SAME YOU NIGGER RETARDS WTF

Do you zoomers not understand what you fucking shitbags type out? Is Soinic fucking Heroes Sonic Adventure 3 because Shadow was in it? Or ShTH because it continues plat points from SA2? NO BECAUSE THEY DON'T PLAY THE SAME FUCKING WAY YOU SACKS OF SHIT.

>No gameplay dies.
It does when the company doesn't revial it retard. It's like saying F-Zero isn't fucking dead.

>Sonic Advance sprites in Sonic Mania mod
>oh no sonic advance doesn't match with the background and stage design. The sprites don't even fit in proportion.
Retard

>Better coloring and shading
Fucking Donkey Kong GBA games take a piss on Mania in that department, don't kid yourself.

>nuh uh NEW ANIMATIONS
And yet they gave my bois Emerl, Chaos, and E-102 Gamma the spritework treatment. I'd rather have that then two forgotten hobos in my games.

>Sonic 06 is a Rush game
>Colors DS is Rush 4
>But Mania isn't Sonic 5
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. This nigga serious?

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Rouge can do everything Ray can. Mighty is a stupid option when you have Shadow. So nobody cares.

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Ur mom doesn't play the same way after I banged her last night with my zoomer penis. Have sex and get cucked, oldfag

>Rouge can do everything Ray can.
She cannot. She doesn't play like Ray, she plays like Knuckles. With that logic Knuckles shouldn't exist. Or more accurately, Rouge shouldn't exist because Knuckles came first. So off yourself furfag.

And the same goes for Mighty, and even he doesn't play like Shadow.

No, I'm stating Adventuretards here are all GC kids.

>>oh no sonic advance doesn't match with the background and stage design. The sprites don't even fit in proportion.
What the fuck are you talking about retard? Who said anything about some Advance sprite mod for Mania?
>Fucking Donkey Kong GBA
We are talking about Sonic user, I know you have ADHD but keep up ffs. Also that game is a SNES game, not a native GBA game.

>And yet they gave my bois Emerl, Chaos, and E-102 Gamma the spritework treatment
>Bois
Autism. Also it doesn't matter when it's on par to Mania, but Battle did get the better treatment compared to the Advance games native.

>>Sonic 06 is a Rush game
Reading comprehension is also your weak point too it seems. Autism, reading comprehension and ADHD, how sad.

Nice zoomer post, upvoted.

This, don't kid yourself, literally any and all that cares this much about some outdated game are SA2Babbies.

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Sorry that Mania's character selection is a sausage fest, user. Rouge has a stomp button like Mighty too. Except nobody cares about the useless spike invincibility. And Ray's "ability" works similar to Rouge in Sonic Battle, she can fly nearly forever by kicking herself up in the air.

Nobody needs Mighty dude. Sonic recolor with no personality is a waste compared to Metal Sonic or Rosy being playable.

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it's not that much effort, he just copied fan art and put it on the cover with the sonic font

>Sonic Adventure 1 is just a novelty
>SA2 weak attempt
>Sonic Heroes was never good.

>Sorry that Mania's character selection is a sausage fest, user.
>Caring about tits in a game about furries
Yikes and cringepilled.
>Caring about tits instead of playing games
This is why I hate Yea Forumsirgins

>Dude SEGA should sell Sonic to Nintendo LMAO
These type of retards is why we ended up with Lost World

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There is literally nothing wrong with posting Amy pictures.

>Who said anything about some Advance sprite mod for Mania?
"Even that Modern Sonic mod for Mania makes Advance look dated now."

>Donkey Kong has no native GBA games
Wow, so by that logic, DK on SNES still has better colors and details than Mania.

>Spritework treatment is autism
Battle and Advance were made in the same house, dumbass. Hence, Advance 3 having Gemerl.

Stay mad, have sex, cope, *checks list of keywords* and learn to code zoomer millennial. That'll show him

We would have ended it up with something like Lost World anyway. Do you really think SEGA has done this franchise justice?

Stay mad fur and fag. Playing as girls in games is good.

>"Even that Modern Sonic mod for Mania makes Advance look dated now."
Nice to know you don't know what I'm taking about, retard. Get educated.
youtube.com/watch?v=uJUDkpGLFqM

>, DK on SNES still has better colors and details than Mania.
Actually, not really. DKC is a realism styled game, it's not as cartoonish as say, Reterns was. It's not comparable, because by that logic Returns and TF isn't as good as the trilogy because it doesn't use preferred 90s graphics.

>Battle and Advance were made in the same house
Yet the Battle sprites actually had shading that puts it on par to Mania, making the characters look a bit more 3D, but even to Mania, it's lacking.
The only thing you care about is muh flashing anime animtions the characters do, which doesn't matter. Animation is animation, and Mania's is just as high tier as the likes of Battle.

>Buzzwords to make me sound smart
At least you tried to sound like a grown up until this part, user.

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>Playing as girls in games is good.
>Is the same as "needing to play as girls to fap to them"
Seek help Yea Forumsirgin

Nobody talked about fapping or sex, you got a problem. Sorry that my daughter wants to choose girl characters in her games. So fuck off.

>Nobody talked about fapping or sex,
So why post Rouge when you had Amy, Blaze, Sticks, Cream, Tikal or any other female Sonic character? And just had to use the one with tits hanging out?

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Not him but it's implied by calling the game a sausage fest. Y'know referring to genitals, the things you have sex with.

>Buzzwords, stale meme for pic, lampshading and nuh uh.
Thanks for the (you). But you're an idiot. A mod for Mania won't change that Advance is better.

>Sorry that my daughter wants to choose girl characters in her games
Tell your daughter the world doesn't revolve around her and that it's worth trying things outside her comfort zone. Then dropkick her through the closest piece of drywall you can find.

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No SEGA has been going full retard mode since the whole "Release The Saturn too early in the US" Fiasco

But Nintendo's "Same old shit" philosophy is the complete opposite of What Sonic is supposed to be about, not to mention that the overall "Cool Urban and Edgy" atmosphere that the franchise is supposed to be about it is the opposite of Nintendo's style

Basically it's like wanting Gamefreak to make Digimon games, it just won't feel right

Only Heroes and debatably Shadow are better.

>. A mod for Mania won't change that Advance is better.
It doesn't since I said NATIVE Mania looks better. I used a modern Sonic mod to prove if Advance had Mania design it would be 100x times better then native GBA Sonic sprites. Which it is to anyone not grown up on 2000s Flash animations.

I'd buy Adventure remakes with chao cross-integration between the two games.

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>Implying Rouge is too sexy or needs to be censored
Geez, go outside and see real women. The fact that you imply women are for fapbait and nothing else makes you into a misogynist.

Get some help. Gender options in games is a thing. And the use of "sausage fest" was only to imply that it's males only. Try to have some innocence online.

>Sorry that my daughter wants to choose girl characters in her games
>She wants to play as the slut of the Sonic character cast.
>Over Amy, Cream, Blaze, etc
>My daughter
>Posting this from Yea Forums

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>Implying Rouge is too sexy or needs to be censored
She's already has since Heroes dumbass.

>Rouge is a slut
See this is what I mean. She has a job, works for GUN, doesn't date anyone in games or comics. How is she a slut?

i think the bigger problem is that eggman programs his robots with libidos, unless that's the animals inside reacting
in which case rogue needs more doujins involving why it's a bad idea to use sex appeal on enemies

But her heroes outfit in skintight leather makes her look even hotter

user, are you just going to ignore how she ACTS in every source of media since SA2? SA2 had the most provocative proportions for a cartoon Sonic bat but in most depictions afterway they abplifed her sexiness over her character she had in SA2 and X. (Which X was more sexiness but even that had more class about it)

It undermine this fact makes you seem delusional. If SA2 Rouge with Modern proportions was her to this day, then you might have a point.

Reminder that Rouge and all other female anthros are not for porn, but for gameplay purposes only. She's flamboyant and dresses like a diva. This does not change her gameplay or her point on "sexy and smooth spy character".

Yea Forumsirgins who say Rouge or likes Sony censoring women for being who they are ruin games for pointless trivial opinionated bullshit. There's nothing wrong with Rouge in 2019.

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>ugh this game has too many penises, where are the boobs and baginas at?
>um they're for my daughter you perv, have sex incel
Yeah sure thing champ

Can you believe some women are naturally ample and attractive? That doesn't make them sluts or tools for you. Try talking to some and hear their answers.

>There's nothing wrong with Rouge in 2019.
It really isn't. I actually like Rouge. And furries are now as accepted as trannies are. Take at as you will.

The problem is SA2 Rouge really made her cute acting despite having H cup tits and ass while X made her less diva and more vixen spy girl with class. Modern Rouge is soulless for sex appeal. Adventure Rouge had soul with class that just so happen to have a sexy design.

06 has hubworlds just like SA1/2.
06 has separate character stories where you play as 1 character at a time just like SA1/2.
06 has characters' powers be unlockables just like SA1/2.
06 was going to have the "Adventure" subtitle.

06 is SA3. Get over it.
Also, learn to spell "heroes."

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See

She's a well endowed seductress who gets her way through theivery and flirtation. This is canon.
What a role model.

How the hell did that Just do that backwards. Fuck me.

See

Nobody said that. Also SA2 is a kid's game. For 6-12 year olds. And she was born before 2000 so you could imply my age.

>Also SA2 is a kid's game. For 6-12 year olds.
...I don't think so. Maybe to Jap kids, but the age of SA2 was moreso 10+ in the states before 10_ rating would be a thing.

>06 was going to have the "Adventure" subtitle.
This is a shit argument, Unleashed is called World Adventure in Japan so should we call THAT SA3?

I see you ignored all the other mechanical arguments in that post.

>06 was going to have the "Adventure" subtitle
Any source to this? The only time Sega's ever openly stated that they were going to use the "Adventure" subtitle again was during Unleashed's development, which they still ended up using in the Japanese title.

Also Sonic World Adventure is a much better title than Sonic Unleashed.

>implying Sega wouldnt milk for all its worth
i would be fucking glad if they did something like Crash N Sane Trilogy but you know they would just release one game at a time

Then what's the issue with Rouge? Modern Rouge isn't even part of the story anymore. She's the same since her last playable game in '06. Girls have different body types like Amy, Cream, Blaze, and Rouge. But apparently, the one with the biggest chest is automatically a slut?

Role models on Yea Forums. Tell that to Sonic himself. Respect women for the way they are, it's called personality.

Rated E for everyone. That's it. Stop moving goalposts.

Yeah because at the end of the day I don't care if it shares some mechanical differences, most of the games post SA2 did yet no one considers them SA3 either.
Unless it's called Sonic Adventure 3, we haven't got SA3.
Shit Iizuka could've said when asked about SA3
>It was 06 and it flopped so we're not bringing it back
and yet they didn't. Shit they blamed it not coming back on Boom.

It's obvious you're replying only to the point about the title because you know everything about 06 mimics the Adventure formula more than Heroes and Shadow does.

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>future sonic fans
what fans?
this series is still running on the fumes of the leftover Adventure fanbase
im pretty sure Sonic has seen no growth in popularity compared to 16 years ago

For the Chaos alone.

I don't trust Sonic Team to know what to change about SA1, and there's a fucking lot.
SA2 and Heroes are lost causes without changing them to the point of being unrecognizable.

>Then what's the issue with Rouge
Every virgin (mostly on Yea Forums and /trash/) spill their spegetti over her when she's posted. Look I don't mind Rouge existing (it's like compared to her existing to what the rest of the series pulled it's laughable to blame her as highly over the rest ffs) but to claim Rouge over any other female is the best represented character after all these years... is just laughable in it's own right. She really could have been more than "tits' but here we are. So many female characters used to be this actually, but now many jap devs just slap fanservice on them (and by slap I really mean strip) and call it a day. No matter how old the character is even.

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>remastered in sonic 4 style

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You still didn't refute anything about 06 having unlockable powers, segmented character levels, and hubworlds like the Adventure games.

You hastily skirting around these points is only further proving that 06 is SA3.

if a new game called "Sonic the Hedgehog 4" was announced, completely ignoring the previous game(s) with that title, would you let them get away with it?

>remastered
but your pic contains remakes user

Only if Taxman was making it then 100% yes I would.

This. Anything female is picked up into rule 34 and considered fapbait. That's how Sonic's reputation was shat on by Devianart. Look at Zootopia and tell me their behavior is normal.

>but only finished Heroes once because it was so boring.
do you mean you've completed it four times once, or that you've only completed once?

Because I didn't refute them, I just said I flatout don't care while stating other post Adventure games had similar things in them to the adventure games while 06 did have the most, Most of the fanbase doesn't consider 06 Adventure 3 otherwise they'd say shit like Adventure 4.
You do because you just don't want the gameplay style to come back so you use that as the basis.

>I don't care if it shares some mechanical differences, most of the games post SA2 did
No they didn't. Sonic '06 was the first game after Adventure 2 to have hubworlds, NPC interactions, and gated abilities, and that was 10 games later.

If the game was good I wouldn't give a shit. If it was bad I would make fun of them for wasting such a momentous name on trash twice

>Most of the fanbase doesn't consider 06 Adventure 3
Proof?

>Proof on a subjective opinion
Can't we all agree or perhaps ask Sonic Team on that answer? The argument on sequel titles is really dumb.

Whatever SA3 may be, Adventure people just want more of it.

Are her jiggle physics for gameplay purposes as well?
Face it she was made to appeal to horny preteens. Sexy is in YOUR character description of her.

"sexy and smooth" was knuckles description in Wild Canyon. And who cares about jiggle physics, I don't have time angling the camera and zooming in to notice. I want the A-rank.

>>Proof on a subjective opinion

That wasn't an opinion. You made a quantifiable claim of "Most of the fanbase doesn't consider 06 Adventure 3." Where's your proof?

Hell, going by sonic threads on Yea Forums, most fans DO consider 06 to be SA3, and only still call it 06 because that was the name that caught on when it was released and so that people don't get it mixed up with Sonic Advance 3.

>Most of the fanbase doesn't consider 06 Adventure 3
Gee I wonder why?
>Most of the fanbase doesn't consider Sonic 4 the real Sonic 4
Gee I wonder why?
>Is it because both failed at being a good representation of what they are trying to be?
Yes? Yes. Because, logically speaking here, if Sonic 06 isn't Adventure 3 by gameplay reasons, then it's not Sonic the Hedgehog (its real name" either because it plays ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like Sonic 1. So if the name = gameplay isn't it, it's neither. Which is what Sonic 4 is, it plays nothing like the classics, so it isn't a real Sonic 4. Meanwhile Sonic 06 plays mostly like a Adventure game, 80% so which also included some inclusion of Chao in the development info found on Sonic Retro. It if plays like x, if it feels like x, and it was going to be x, it's x. Sonic 4 was never going to be Sonic 1-3, because it was a phone game ported into console status by some dumb Nip executive, which was documented by SR. Sonic 06 however, was SA3 all but in name. The sad thing is, you could still get a in name SA3, while classicfags get fucked over with the numeral branding being tainted by "4".

If only
Bullshit

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I hope Bobby Shmurda dropped the soap every day.

>Gamma's levels wont be any less shit
Fuck off nigger

>who cares about jiggle physics
Apparently Sonic Team
Let's not forget her dominatrix outfit either
And ever heard of a thing called the Chao Garden where you have all the time in the world?

Lmao kill yourself, my man.

>Thinking Yea Forums is a place for accurate massive opinions
>Not knowing it's a meme to make fun of adventure
>But really everyone liked SA and wants more of it, despite '06 failing
I feel bad for you man. Unironiccally shitposting about dumb memes really got to your own personal opinions. No Adventure fan liked '06 enough to call it SA3 back then and even now.

And show your proof that SA3 is '06 from the creators of it themselves.

Sorry, I want my chao to reincarnate so I leave the gamecube on at night or do other things because the in-game time is so slow.
If not that, then I collect more rings and animals and A-rank stages while doing so. Try nofap, it clears your mind.

only if they take Rouge's ear bounce physics and apply it to her breasts like they forgot to.

It's not going to happen.

I'd prefer having a collection with all the iOS Sonic ports, plus a S3&K one that has a brand new Tee Lopes OST because fuck the MJ estate alongside full-on remasters of Adventure 1 and 2 that fix the bugs

You're so full of shit dude
I know fucking furbait when I see it

>S3&K but without the original music.

Why are you so angry, it's just a character user.

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did the GC version have her dlc outfits from the DC version?

I don't appreciate it when people are willingly disingenuous

Sigh, try going to /fit/ and lighten up your mood. Vidya is for fun games, not "spot the fapbait", you sound like a Yea Forumsirgin.

This is a dominatrix suit? And a DLC from the Dreamcast I never even heard of until now. You sound like censorship of ample women is a good thing, when you forget it's her choice what she wants to wear.

And from your "chao garden" jiggle story, I guess you did fap to Rouge. Disgusting

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>SHE HAS BOOBS, SHE'S FAPBAIT.
archie sonic comics didn't die for this. Fuck off faggot.

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Adventure 3 would come out after Sega saw this one being successful.

No dumbass this one
The literal fetish costume

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Just stop

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HAHAHAHA...she looks more covered up than Tostada from Guacamelee. And you have a problem with this? You're a fucking faggot dude. That's a luchador outfit.

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>S3&K but without the original music
>no
As long as it exists to release on pc you can just mod the original music back in. Literal non-issue.

Normally yeah that'd be heretical but really I don't think we'll ever see the original OST come back again because of the copyright hell it's in. It's why the game's not in any of the recent collections.
At this rate we may as well just get a new soundtrack and Tee Lopes is one of the few capable of really holding a candle to the original

>plus a S3&K one that has a brand new Tee Lopes OST because fuck the MJ estate
soundcloud.com/leila-wilson-woofle/sets/sonic-3-alternate

>Don't care for pc gaming
>Got a Switch/PS4 combo
no.

It's literally called Dominatrix outfit in the game files...

>Don't care for pc gaming
>Got a Switch/PS4 combo
your loss then lol

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>Implying Sega would make something at a loss.
>Port denied

This. SA3 faggots will ignore this but obviously '06 was intended as a sequel to the Adventure games, likely since people bitches about Heroes.

If we never got Sonic 3, but we still got CD, would we be calling CD "Sonic 3" today?

Probably yeah. But Sonic 4 is legit the 4th in the classic series. Mania is Sonic 5.
Sonic Lost World is Colors 2. They share the same final boss.
Sonic Colors is Unleashed 2, they both boost.
Shadow the Hedgehog is Heroes 2, they have the same gameplay engine.

I can go on to say Sonic Pocket Adventure is Sonic Adventure 3.

Sonic Forces is actually Colors 3 and Unleashed 3. It has the same final boss from Colors and boosts too.

Sonic Colors is Unleashed CD
Sonic Generations is Unleashed 2
Sonic Forces is Unleashed Chaotix

First post worst fucking post.

Literally ANY HD or remake of the Adventure games is best case scenario and would net Sega big cash.

Generations is the hype at anyone’s been for a sonic game since unleashed.

Yet for YEARS retards like this keep spouting “I WAN MUH VENTURE 3!” And don’t even know what made the adventure games so good.

>in the classic series
>Uses Modern Sonic
>Which Sonic Mania does
Might as well say it's Sonic 7 because Sonic Advance 1,2 and 3 existed before it.

Literally just fix the controls then heros is the best green eyes era game

>>Which Sonic Mania does
n't. Stupid keyboard.

Nigga, hol up. Adventure fans shat themselves when Chaos showed up in the Sonic Forces trailer. People were so hyped that not only Classic is back from Mania, but also CHAOS is back in action. Everyone thought SA3 was coming up next and you know it.

Too bad they made an extremely detailed Chaos CGI model only not to use it. So it implies Sonic Adventure is getting a remaster because SEGA doesn't waste money, but cut corners and budget to make a profit.

Screencap this post, mark my words, Chaos will be back in the next game.

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>06 was going to have the "Adventure" subtitle
Keyword: was

Tails Adventure exists. So Sonic Adventure 2 is actually SA3

>People were so hyped that not only Classic is back from Mania,
No one:

I still wanted Classic back in anything. Fuck gree eyes stupid voice tall Sonic

>People were so hyped that not only Classic
I remember the general reception(at least here) being "...again?". Especially since Mania was announced right before we saw the teaser and we all knew Forces' Classic gameplay wasn't going to be as good

youtube.com/watch?v=OA3tPwjXk4E

heres your adventure 4, senpai

>Super Mario Bros Z
Didnt realize i would be meeting niggas of culture here

>boost gameplay
response.

I'll give you that, but I'm glad Taxman knew how to classic sonic compared to Sonic Team.

yeah, she had a witch outfit and an xmas outfit, plus the Dom outfit.

dude, at that fucking point, just fucking EMULATE SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES! holy shit....

I WANT MY
I WANT MY
I WANT MY VENTURE THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

whats that?
>sonic noises

Or even better, mod Mania into S3K Remastered. Stop forcing these devs to remake shit ffs. I wan NEW FUCKING CONTENT JESUS CHRIST.
t.Maniafag.

They promised us pic related and gave fake hype using Adventure characters, Classic Sonic, and Zavok. But I want to believe.

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>High speed trilogy

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Or even better, just play A.I.R.

Yeah, but the HD sprites though...

>just fucking EMULATE SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES!
Emulating S3K doesn't give the quality of life features that would be present in a Taxman-esque remake. A.I.R is a nice replacement, though.

>They promised us pic related
Was there anyone above the age 18 that was actually hyped for what your pic implied? I just remember a lot of people laughing that it looked like it was going to be 06 2.0 tone-wise. I guess the final game kinda was considering 06's director was the main producer on Forces.

Did you watch the YouTube livestream for Summer of Sonic or some event that had the trailer? Read the comments and compare it to Yea Forums's pessimistic threads. Also some people were more hyped for Forces than Mania because everyone thought it was gonna be Generations 2, including me.

>I just remember a lot of people laughing that it looked like it was going to be 06 2.0 tone-wise.
It was. After Mania this was definately what many people feared, that Sonci was going to be too serious for its own good again.

I really wish people accepted the fact the 2000s Sonic was not globaly liked. He's the niche Shonen character like Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, etc. In Japan shit like this is lapped up (which is funny since Japan still doesn't care for Sonic) but in the states everyone before the 2000s era of kids laughed at Sonic. It wasn't adults/old fans asking for ShTH to happen, it was kids that SEGA was trying to pander to, said kids that grew up on over the top edge because that's all they knew for entertainment. Emos, goths, contrarianism, you name it. Just look at modern society. All fill of people being shitheads to piss others off because "it's cool". This is the era we are living with now, this isn't the 80s era kids doing.

>Did you watch the YouTube livestream for Summer of Sonic or some event that had the trailer? Read the comments
I specifically asked if people above 18 were excited. I don't care what a bunch 13 year old youtube commenters think. They're going to have awful opinions just on principle.

>Game is for kids
>Need 18+ age opinions
Dude, stop. Everyone at this point hopes that the next Sonic game will be good, not hope that it becomes '06 again.

Is that why so many people in this thread slaps down SA3 because "it will be bad anyway" argument? Why do they care about Sonic if it will "never be good" then?

>Everyone at this point hopes that the next Sonic game will be good,
Lmao, some one hasn't since the countless threads since Forces dropped that called out Sonic Team's bullshit like they fucking deserve. This isn't even fucking funny, look at Pokemon. Another hack group of devs getting the shit they deserved. Sonicfags already realize this shit when Lost Shit happened 5 years ago.

>5
try six years ago, it was a 2013 release. Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric was 5 years ago in 2014

>Game is for kids
>Need 18+ age opinions
Yeah, in this instance I do because that's specifically what I was curious about you dolt. The tone of that concept art strongly resembles some of the shit we got in 06, and I was curious if there were any older fans who's first gut reaction to seeing it wasn't "oh god not again".
>Is that why so many people in this thread slaps down SA3 because "it will be bad anyway" argument?
No, it's because Sonic Team hasn't put out a decent game since 2011 and haven't shown any real reason regarding why they'd do better in the future. There's no reason to look forward to anything modern Sonic Team has to develop.

Take that back, faggot. Dreamcast forever.

>Everyone at this point hopes that the next Sonic game will be good, not hope that it becomes '06 again.
Everyone at this point knows the only way the next Sonic game will be good is if Taxman's team is involved. Sonic Team is trash.

If anyone though a fucking 3rd party IP making a shitty ass filler game was going to make you think Sonic was dead again you're all fucking retarded. That's like saying Mania saved Sonic. Neither was made by the people SOLELY meant to do Sonic shit, so I discounted it. Lost World was the first clue, Forces was the big reveal that Sonic was dead again.

Sonic under Sonic Team is dead unless they have a massive reworking of the whole team to stop getting rid of their good talent and stop using that fucked mess of a game engine that they keep raping into worse and worse conditions. Mania and the Boom TV series proved that Sonic as a franchise isn't dead, but SEGA of Japan can't get their shit together for anything but Yakuza and Sonic Team is filled with newbies to the industry or incompetent direction by talentless hacks at this rate.

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>Sonic 4 style

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>"guys like sonic utopia guys"
>literally no reason to explore the world since sonic was designed as a speedy arcade game.

I didn't even see the text until just now
Why the fuck would anyone actually WANT a game that looks like Sonic 4?

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I thought Episode 2 looked okay-ish. Episode 1 on the other hand was an abomination.

What is it about Animal mascots that keep getting fucked over?
Sonic Team = Incompetent hacks
Game Freak = Incompetent hacks
>All the 2000s ones like Sly Cooper = Dead
The only one back is Crash and we still got no new game to prove himself again, only remakes.

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Even Episode 2 looked incredibly generic. Give me high quality Mania-style art any day of the week.

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are you actually retarded

Except SA2 doesn';t have hubworlds you moron.

Episode 1's style appealed to people who are obsessed with sticking high quality textures in low poly games.

meant for

To electionfags, doing anything more than MSPainting a new wojak is an enormous task.

>>literally no reason to explore the world since sonic was designed as a speedy arcade game.
This has always been the most retarded fucking comment in the Sonic fandom

>Gets to explore the world faster than any other platformer ever
>It's "shit" to do so to brainlets that thinks so

Please explain. With shit like the animals and chaos drives of SA2 for your chao, the last thing I'd think people wouldn't want is to EXPLORE to find cool, neat locations and fun things to use for either the characters ala power ups or shit for your Chao for chaofags.

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I just wanna pound Shadow's hole.
Anyone else know this feel?

>will only be good if Taxman
Everyone and the Utopia team is laughing at you. There's capable people out there who can make 3D Sonic games good. Nobody said anything about Sonic Team, just hoping that the next 3D Sonic game will be good.

>No argument, only buzzwords
Why even post?

>SA2 doesn';t have hubworlds

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Animal mascots are things for children again right now, and thus they're treated as cashcows or low-budget projects where apparently it's totally fine to cycle in rookie dev teams with no idea what they're doing.

>Nobody said anything about Sonic Team, just hoping that the next 3D Sonic game will be good.
user, who's going to make the next 3D Sonic game if it's not Sonic Team? Do you seriously think the Japs are going to allow filthy gaijins to make Sonic look good again, especially after Mania made them look like a fool?

But why? It's ok when little girls with hats to be good platformers or an old plumber to be so, why are human characters treated normally but cute animal characters like Sonic, Banjo or Crash can't?

>Everyone and the Utopia team is laughing at you.
Why? They're don't officially work with Sega like Taxman and his team has.
>There's capable people out there who can make 3D Sonic games good
Never said there wasn't.
>Nobody said anything about Sonic Team, just hoping that the next 3D Sonic game will be good.
And who has made every mainline 3D Sonic game, user? Come on now.

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but it doesn't................

chao garden doesn't count, you don't NEED to go there to finish the game proper.

asshole.
he meant like SA1, faggot.

fuck off /sthg/

>chao garden doesn't count
Because you say so? It's a hub world, it's in SA2, thus SA2 has hub worlds. Now fuck off.

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>Never said there wasn't
the ONLY way the next Sonic game will be good is if Taxman's team is involved
Stopped reading right there.

Hopefully, they hire another successful jap team.

>chao garden doesn't count, you don't NEED to go there to finish the game proper.
Uhhhh, user? If you want to 100% the game, aka, "finish it proper", you HAVE to get all the emblem medals from the Chao races/karate...

no, your fucking WRONG

banjo kazooie has hub worlds
shit, even pac world has hub worlds!
crash 2 and 3 have them too!

chao garden is a fucking pitstop at best. it doesn't LEAD into all the other stages at your whim

YOU
FUCKING
FAGGOT

get it right for once, YOU ARE WRONG
and no, it taking you BACK to the STAGE SELECT SCREEN isn't a hub. fucker.

nope, by finishing it proper, i mean BEATING THE GAME, NO OTHER SHIT.

you don't NEED chao garden to BEAT THE GAME, SINGULAR. ONCE.

>beat story mode
>beat super boss
>credits roll
You mean the game isn't over? Well shit

>the ONLY way the next Sonic game will be good is if Taxman's team is involved
>Stopped reading right there.
I was clearly speaking in an official sense. Taxman's team already has their foot in the door, so if anyone's going to contribute to Sonic Team's next mainline game it'll likely be them (hell, Sonic Team already put Mania's drop dash into Forces, a mechanic Taxman's team came up with). Sonic Team on their own has already shown over and over again that they're not going to develop anything worth giving attention to.

Question is - '06 is officially SA3?

>no, your fucking WRONG
Again, basically because you say so. Chao Lobby serves as a hub to other chao-related areas. You use it just like you use the hub areas in SA1, just on a significantly smaller scale. Ergo, SA2 has hub worlds.

Now go act like an underage somewhere else.

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Who cares. Iizuka already said he thinks making an SA3 would be a step backwards or some shit, so it'll never happen anyway.

>nope, by finishing it proper, i mean BEATING THE GAME
Look here you little niglet, in my day you either beat the story mode or you COMPLETE THE ENTIRE GAME if you wanted to be it proper. Not my problem you fucking niglets don't actually play games and just shitpost on Yea Forums

See above.

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It's never going to happen because Sega are a bunch of autistic monkies that think 06 failed because people stopped liking the adventure style games instead of because it was a buggy mess with one of the absolute shittiest cringefests of a story a sonic game has ever had

>Sega are a bunch of autistic monkies that think 06 failed because people stopped liking the adventure style games
You do realize Unleashed was originally envisioned as another Adventure-style game and was supposed to be titled Sonic Adventure 3? They clearly had no issue with the Adventure style after 06.

I don't. Prettier graphics could only do so much for the Adventure series. They'd have to be remade from the ground up with heavy game design changes in order to benefit.

But user, games like Pokémon NEVER END unless you lv 10p max iv ev breed all 800 pokemon.
Same for Chao garden and nobody is that insane to do that. Even for RPGS like Xenoblade Chronicles or Monster Hunter, the game will never fucking end.

Chao Garden ends when you get all the emblems related to it.

Chao garden ends when you successfully kill them off and have no eggs left in the garden.

That's actually a baseless rumor. Iirc the idea was dropped before even working on Unleashed and "World Adventure" is just a Japanese name drown in because "Sonic goes on a adventure around the world", like like there's a "Rush Adventure" Which is a adventure for Sonic in the Rush style of games.

It was always going to be a boost game they way it is to this day, nothing with Adventure elements in mind. The literal only thing that comes from Adventure in Unleashed is the fact they keep making "Cthulhu monster of the week with destroy the Earth, so know we must get the chaos emeralds together to stop Eggman's evil plan".

>beat Mario 64, Galaxy, Sunshine, Odyssey with minimum amount.
>hurt you didn't beat it unless it's 100%
By that logic, DLC will make it impossible to 100% because I don't want to pay extra. Your argument is retarded. And on a simple game like Sonic.

God, it's sad seeing zoomers not understand the idea of a game stating "100% completed" in todays world. Times truly has gone down the drain...

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>rent game from blockbuster
>beat it as fast as I can before the week is over
Yeah I remember the days alright. Lesson learned, time is valuable and I have a huge backlog of games I need to complete on storymode.
t. Somebody with a job and life

Seeth more poorfag

I think you meant to reply to with the "rent game" comment
Also
>t. Somebody with a job and life
>Posts on Yea Forums
Topkek

You never know what powerful people browse these boards. Some glow in the dark too.

I could do without the Adventure games, Heroes would be good enough on its own.

>PS4
haha no. I'd rather play it on Switch

>makes fun of Yea Forums poster
>by posting on Yea Forums
This is why I come here.

can you please stop bringing politics into every single thread

It has a hub WORLD, not hub worlds.

Hold back on the /pol/ stuff, dude. It's not cool.

nothing political about naming the newfag

Grow some nuts, hick.