Thoughts, Yea Forums? If you disagree, you're insecure

All men should aspire to be like peak Arnie.

Insecure also means closet gay. :)
It's not gay to have naked men saved on my devices, actually, quite the opposite.

There is plenty of games that let you dress your male character like that.

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Plenty of games with just that though

>Insecure also means closet gay. :)
it really doesnt but keep telling yourself that

Dress, sure, but the context here is armor.
Provide examples.

men were always sexualized in vidya

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If naked people of the same sex as you make you feel funny, but you are timid of admitting it and lash out in reactionary ways to cope, you're insecure ;o

>men in games are depicted after the male fantasy
>women in games are depicted after the male fantasy
idk what is the female fantasy then, nobody ever tells you or when they do they give every conflicting answers every single time
just sit down and decide what product you want to buy

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Explain me, what is the point of these "fashion" shows and these "clothes"?

I still wouldn't care, tbqh.
What's offending is how bad JRPG armor looks in general.
>Target red shorts + ultra heavy iron chest plate
fashion

feel funny? no. feel disgusted? yes definitely.

inb4 its not sexualization its power fantasy

>blah blah power fantasy, blah blah double-standard, REEEEEEEE

>every conflicting answers every single time
So you're telling me that, just like men, not every women have the same opinion? wow, who would've thought of that?
personally, I prioritize worldbuilding, characters (both relatable and romanceable), and fashionable yet methodical armors for both sexes.
Insecure. :)

Achievable natty?

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But it is power fantasy. That man doesn't look sexy at all.
If he was slimmer and wasn't a total beefcake, maybe.

Every time someone points out Red Sonja's costume I don't know which is more surprising, the fact that they know Red Sonja or that they didn't immediately think of Conan first.

Just a meme to keep senior designers occupied before their subordinates release the very boring and ordinary clothing range for real people 'based' on the high fashion designs.

Women who aren't femnazis like macho men.

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I enjoy sexualized women, fight me.

I don't think so, breh, but maybe you could achive if
>Perfect genetics
>10 years of constant and intense workout
>Perfect alimentation
>Good nights of sleep

>it's a lanklet pretends women don't get their cunts wet when they see someone muscular episode

Usually it's shoe designers that pull shit like this. They're selling the shoe so they do stupid shit for the rest of the body.

Bottom right is

Can you even imagine how much you're eventually going to regret the time you spent doing this when you don't even care about video games?

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For you? The bottom right might be

i will now buy your game

LOL
yeah delude yourself into believing that, inceI.
>the closet gay thinks gargantuan veiny muscles is sexier than an attractive sleek form
dumbass

So El Shaddai with more skin showing?

Look, if they can make a decent, fun game, they're already better than 95% of developers. If they've kept the pacing decent, then there's no time left for the devs to shove their faggotry in your face. Character design is just that, it's not an issue until they've got set characters soapboxing.

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But this is how I try to armor myself though.

Fun fact most lesbo were at one point straight and had a bad relationship experience which made them hate men. They're not actually gay, they're just blinded by rage against their ex-boy friend/husband/crush. This is why the feminism moment is essentially "do the opposite of whatever men like".

Woman wear bikinis all the time. If men generally wore that then they wouldn't care about seeing costumes like that in video games. A more apt comparison would be pic related but then you'd would actually be fair and trannies can't be fair now can they.

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>I have no argument so I call you names

Seems I won this round.

Meanwhile everyone's complaining about Zero Suit Samus and her heels.

?

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>still objectified..
>REEE IT'S NOT THE SAME

Honestly, wasn't the beach shorts the strongest armor in the game at a point?
I'm pretty sure beach shorts Shulk can 1v1 Zanza.

>still unrealistic depiction
>REEE IT"S NOT THE SAME

Everything about ZSS is fucking retarded and the heels is the cherry on top. She looks like some bimbo slut not a bounty hunter

You're proving me right lol.

ants

The thread probably took less than a minute to make. And like most threads on Yea Forums is set up to be a trash post for funsies.

It probably took me longer to write this than it took OP to make the thread.

Jojo's Bizzare adventure has the most homosexual main character design ever and is enjoyed and considered cool by straight men the world over. We don't give a fuck about men being sexualised or women

I really wonder what people making these comparisons are playing. Absolute bottom of the barrel Korean MMOs?
Anyway, generally I feel that guy and girl nerds who play this stuff are attracted to different things. Guys want sexy or cute girls, while girls want handsome guys, just look at the Granblue characters that are popular male and female players. Sure, some guys are also into cool girls while some girls are into skimpy daddies, but those are in minority.

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I only disagree with the implication that this would somehow be a bad thing.

I will now buy your game.

you know it was super unlikey for women to go to war in medevile times, thats why the whole idea of female amor is stuiped, women should be for sex and nothing else

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This is how I want my men to look in media.

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>t. kissless permavirgin

my gay friend would love that

You're playing semantics. A woman's sexual desirability is also a form of power.

so what?
I have 20 GB of Ricardo pics and webms on my hard drive and I still like to fuck women in the ass

what about cute guys?

When the fuck was the last time we even had unironic bikini armors in a mainstream game? That shit was from like the 90s and they're still beating the horse? Theres been tons of shredded naked dudes in media in practically every decade of its existence.

That design is pretty cool though. No homo.
Like seriously. That looks rad.

armor like this would be cool as fuck

This also makes me horny

More please

No homo tho

>Women: "See, you guys wouldn't want your characters wearing skimpy shit like this!"

>Men: "How much defense and vitality points does it have?"

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Sorry. Shouldn't save pics on phone.

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Already exists

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One of the perks of being bi is these tricks have no power over me.

He should have a cooler weapon, and that codpiece of his should have embroidery in the style of the rest of his costume instead of being blank. Otherwise this looks awesome.
Reminds me a little bit of this.

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when did power become non sexual for humans?

>Japs hate ass

To be fair, is it even women complaining? Or internet trash posters and "journalists". I find it hard to believe anyone genuinely gives a crap that a skimpy fictional character exists enough to go on a moral crusade.

The best male armor in Xenoblade for the male and female characters is basically underwear, and I just chuckled from that. Moral of the story is that just because it's easy to start a kerfuffle about it on main stream social media, doesn't mean that's what your audience actually thinks. Not every one is a hip and happening journalist that wrights an article dedicated to how womanizing anime figurines are. I did not make up that last part. Never change Kotaku.

It's because of MMOs
Gaming as a whole has been elevated to a level where it's more noticeable to the average person and as a result the designs from modern MMOs (and i suppose also gacha games) are actually much higher profile than the old 90's era fantasy examples.

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Like shota characters? I feel there's a market for those too, but again, demand for them is overshadowed by typically attractive dudes. Again, using Granblue as an example but most males that get added in are Humans or Erunes, while Harvins and Draphs don't get nearly as many.

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R. Mika SF V?

>grrr bark bark incel incel incelllllll
the castrated argument, again. how ironic when you use it to talk about your mistress vagina usage.

>what is the female fantasy then

A video-game where you stretch, do yoga and meditate with some kale in your mouth. The game regularly reassures you that you're doing great with a Chad hubandfu who also reassures you that he's not just saying that because you're cute.

In this game you can also go to bars and yell at creeps while everyone claps because you're a brave stonk wymyn. for standing up to those foolish unchads that dare try to talk to you.

Naturally, there would also be a selfie mode in this game that you can actually connect and send snaps to your real life instagram and tumblr accounts.

This started as a joke post, but after adding the social media part, I genuinely believe this game would be a shitty success. Please Todd, don't make this fallout 5.

yes
this
slut up everybody
the fact that you can dress guys like bunnygirls in ffxiv is a good, big step

Cover his nipples and get rid of the dingus and i'd accept this as a weird enemy.

Well then those people should make games that force you to dress men like this and see how successful they will be. Pisses me off that people treat consumer products like public property.

Isn't that when you remove all armor?

kill yourself faggot

How is she a bimbo you stupid retard? Is Snake a bimbo cus he wears tight clothing too? A bounty hunter can be fucking anything ffs ,hell fucking captain falcon is a bounty hunter apparently

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No, it's specific armor in the mid to late game that even has tiers I think? They call it swimming oil I think.

da humie is rite, ya only need warpaint as its as tuff as any armah

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No. Armorless is just asking to get one-shot by the first undodgable move that gets thrown.
For instance, every single Ether based move in the game.
If you're going for low armor weight, just use light armor

I just hate how smash created this misinformation that ZSS is more agile/fast than armored Samus.

why the fuck would you jump to shota, i'm talking about twinks and shit.

Agreed. Though I also want option for proper armor, when I was playing Tera and saw what "heavy armor" in Elin looked like I was so fucking disappointed. Is it too much to ask for option to have little girl in absolutely over the top heavy plates?

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Just thought you deserved credit for finding something so on the nose.

>clothes
lmao what a gay
real men only wear a loincloth that barely covers their manhood, and NOTHING else

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Codpiece needs to be in line with the rest of the costume's aesthetics but otherwise that's pretty cool. Removing it also works since an exposed penis would go well with the uncivilized and savage appearance.

Sadly this is sexualization according to women and nu-Yea Forums

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Imagine this guy with thunder casually rippling across his body and a wind storming through his fancy headdress.

>That man doesn't look sexy at all.
Jealous skeleton lord.

is this close enough for skimpy male armour?

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Gays are weirdos. Being a weirdo myself, I empathize with them. But, they are evil people.

Post it on Neogaf. Come back with reactions. Genuinely curious.

At least the dick is protected, so it's fine.

damn lol nice find LMAO

FFIX lets you be a little spud girl in proper full plate

Why are there no amazon girls? This bugs me.

David was the best part of KiD.
Smug fucker.

It still adds up every time you come to an anonymous Ugandan segue-riding chatroom just to try to make people argue.

That first aid kit just makes this pic super cute

Only fatbodies with Skittles hair and YouTube con artists complain about this shit.

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I could totally see this dude levitating cross legged in the air while throwing lightning at the player in a game like Odin Sphere or something.

Yea Forums's format isn't put best in long thoughtful discussions. Someone can literally impersonate you mid sentence and just ruin it all if they wanted to. Embracing what it is, Yea Forums's best if you don't take it too seriously, between its format and community. Even the more "untouched" boards like /3/ fall in line with this as well.

It really doesn't matter. The people "arguing" in the thread are for the most part doing it jokingly. If you want to talk about wasting time, the argument can be made coming here in general. Hell, browsing the internet for entertainment. That's a waste of time, riiight?

Like, someone wants to make a spicy trash post on Yea Forums, world keeps spinning.

i dont get it. nobody complained about plugsuits in NGE. why are people complaining about zero suit? is it because, in the metroid universe, we've only seen Samus wear one, and nobody else did?

You might not like it but this is peak male condition.

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>women in games are depicted after the male fantasy
I mean that's true pretty much. Ironically, you could argue is female fantasy not represented specifically because of murricans whining that every game needs muh stronk female protagonist so all female protag games just end up being a genderbent version of male fantasy.
>idk what is the female fantasy
If you actually want to know just read a single shoujo manga or watch a korean drama, it's super simple and admittedly not done in mainstream vidya at all. Also stop asking about it on mongolian imageboards full of turbovirgins, otherwise all the /r9k/ shit clouds your view of reality like .

>male

op btfo

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Please yes, this would be beyond badass. I want to customize the color of my cockpiece in MMOs

>knife on the inside of shield
please stop i've already masturbated three times today

we all know if games did this people would just say it's disgusting to have to look at naked male bodies and that it's the equivalent of rape or some shit.

insecure incel :)

>why are people complaining about zero suit? is it bec
It's because of Smash secondary waifufags. This is unironically it. Samus has always worn various forms of sexy clothing under the the suit. That's nothing new and there is nothing bad about the zero suit design itself. It's just a massive kneejerk reaction to secondaries bimbo:ing Samus up in their fanfiction and porn and how they never shut up about it.

Had we gotten Zero Suit Samus, but without Samus ever being in Smash. You can bet it wouldn't be controversial.

Didn't samus literally wear a bikini and strip out of her suit in older metroid games?

I would have absolutely no problem with men having the ability for their fictional male characters to dress like this.

Which makes women that are upset about doing the same with women makes women look even more irrational and pathetic.

Only insecure fags would say that, best way to filter plebs.

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yes

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and an even older example

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This could easily be an outfit in something like Saint's Row. If you lose the fake cock, he could be an enemy or an armor set in many other games too.

But that's what you want us to say huh? This is just your personal echo-chamber after all.

how is he unashamed to go outside with a freakish body like this?

Looks more armored than in some video games.

OH THE HORROR

Yeah.

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Played the shit out of this at an arcade I used to go when on vacation to the sea with grandparents

There's a stark difference between deliberately wasting time here and doing it because you feel like you're fighting some kind of social war.

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If Sarkeesian had proposed to add more sexy men instead of removing the sexy women from vidya then she would have gotten much less hate.
But she's a neo-puritan so her only real message is "sex bad!".

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the guy in the background is into it

They guy literally has an image that looks like it was taken straight out of 9gag.
>implying OP isn't having a chuckle over this whole thread

I really don't see what makes Zero Suit Samus worse than this. I also don't see what's bad about this at all.

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Men who I don't want attention from are giving this more attention than me!

why do women pretend men are never sexualized

I wish to see more males in game like this please

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Yo! Storm-lord! Why weren't you at the meeting? The All-father called of us and that includes you!

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Weak bulge.

I'm replying from the main page, but I'm going to take a wild guess this is how the topic's going.
>what if men dressed like women?
>here are several examples of men dressed in similar and even more revealing outfits that accentuate the parts of their body that most would find arousing
>no that's different

samus more like shame on us amirite

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NakeyJakey?

We've actually only gone through the first two points
There's been no discourse against the counter examples from games.
I feel like this thread was probably made by a gay who just wanted people to post beefcakes

He represents Japan, dude.

Look at all these sexualized women
Literally objectified for male gaze
Only manchildren and virgin losers can find these attractive

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Looks badass like hell. Would play.

embarrassing lanklet.

Based.

What's wrong with codpieces?

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How soon we forget.

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those boots are fucking sexy

This is what peak armor looks like.

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I think only the cod piece is problematic since it can easily get grabbed or yanked. Unless it's part of the game mechanics you grab your enemy's cod piece during combat.

>Only manchildren and virgin losers can find these attractive
I guess I'm a fag then since all those look fucking atrocious

Also
>A million JRPG buckless and useless knick-knacks
The only things missing are the pizza cutter swords

This.
Girls and irrational maniacs go after boys; women go after men.

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I wanna cum inside her helmet to make it all sticky!

Well it was censored right after, so.

I do genuinely find this to be a poor design. But it has more to do with it being overdesigned garbage and nothing to do with it being revealing or the man being a pretty boy.

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I know this is probably just bait, here's me honestly replying to the feminists:
1- men would enjoy and use that visual in the OP's image
2- men are the people who are the target audience because men are the people who buy videogames
3- there are already games with non-sexualized women out there for women to buy, and they don't buy them, not enough to make a difference in the industry anyways
4- there's also women who enjoy sexualized women, don't forget that
5- if you don't want to attract much flak when making a SJW-oriented game, then make a new IP instead of shitting on a beloved existing one

I've never heard a woman who actually plays games complain about sexualized female characters, they tend to pick them themselves it's mostly landwhale feminists throwing strawmen around

Why are women attracted to sexy men? I thought all girls loved buff boys ;_;

Good to have fellow non-toxic cis-males here
We need women like these in videogames

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>A video-game where you stretch, do yoga and meditate with some kale in your mouth.
White Girl Gentrification Simulator. Don't forget the level where you call the cops on Spike Lee's father for playing jazz music. nytimes.com/2013/06/01/nyregion/in-brooklyn-bill-lees-music-is-his-neighbors-headache.html

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Okay, so where's the games in which women wear "armors" like this?

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Fuck you

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>OP baits like an underaged faggot with smileys after every sentence
>attracts all the actual faggots on this place instead

Just nuke this fucking place, its like an echo chamber for autists who scream the loudest

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>one fat female
OOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOO

Pretty much 98% of every Korean mmo ever.

>i've never played video games

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So why is his nipples showing?

And why is the fake metal dick a thing? Games with women in then don't have panties that have a built in Speculum shape so we can see how wide and deep her vagina is do we..?

Insecure.

This. Women absolutely love asian mmos because they let them wear a shitload of different sexy clothes.

Red Sonya is the classic Conan character. Red Sonja is the classic comic character.

Being faulted by an Asian sexist culture.
The White man's burden truly stretches far.

>Women
>mmos

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the people who are really upset about digital tiddies usually equate them with dick which of course is spectacularly wrong.

It's a joke you autist.

I know.

Can't take the joke further without some retard like that doesn't get it.

>being so alpha you show up to a fight with nothing but a thong

I know two

Men in bideo are not scantily clad because most players, statistically, are homophobic straight males, and they would be disgusted playing sexualized versions. You can get away with sexy women because it appeals to the main userbase of men, and it's not going to turn away any woman because "staring at a girl's ass is gay" is not a thing that happens.
This is also why most gay couples are lesbians, it's an easier sell all around.

I like both bishi and bara of any preference but I sure as hell ain't no femnazi

as a gay, i definitely appreciate more opportunities for scantily clad male characters

Umm, sweetie
No need to use fatphobic tone
I have to report your post.

Bikini armor just mimics and accentuates RL. Have you ever gone outside in the summer? 99% of women dress like complete whores, so why cry about in a fantasy video game?

then play any fighting game ever made, you will have plenty of fan service

>And why is the fake metal dick a thing?
To show the might of the penis.

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all female tekken players play xiaoyu or alisa. gets the noggin joggin, almost like they want to be cute in the same way men want to be bloatmaxx

Looks exactly like most trash mobs in most medieval games

Would impregnate these women.

>click on top female literature on Amazon
>It's always like 9999 books with that kind of art on the cover
>Books about some cliche perfect giant dude ravishing you and stealing you over his shoulder.
>click male literature
>always self help, business etc.

Do books have a reverse 'problem'? How come no one cares about that?

>itt not a single hairy male
Why live

Are you daft? MMOs are among the worst in terms of infestation with females. It's a perfect breeding ground for their attention whoring cancer and orbiter collection.

>How come no one cares about that?
Americans don't read

>ywn experience battle boners while bashing in peasant skulls

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is there more of this

Looks faggy as fuck.
This is better.

jokes on you I love playing as muscular man ,especially if I get to beat up women as those guys

Sure. I think there should be slut armor and fancy armor in games for men and women.

NeoGaf went redpilled shortly after the mods moved to reserera

I wish we was kidding

So this is a transman?

That's not a comic but artist is kalechippu

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I think that since nobody wants to see naked men waltz around except for faggots like you, you expect too much from everyone else around you.
People like looking at female tits, and nobody except the whiniest of attention seeking faggots complain about this.

Good MMO armor designs should try to run the gambit. You should have manwhore/slut armor, more realistic armor, and armor with absurdly large shoulder pads. Let the player express themselves through their character, that's what an MMO is all about.

TEARDROP BLOOSTAINED HELLFIRE SHADOW

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I know this is shitposting, but I've seen this dumb fucking argument used so many times when Dragon's Crown was being criticized because of the Sorceress. Leaving aside the Elf is a female who looks pretty tame even by typical SJW or puritan standards, or the fact Vanillaware's games have an highly stylized and over-the-top art (like the ridiculous proportions of the Fighter in DC, or the size differences between characters in Odin Sphere), this argument is a blatant false equivalence and these people would be fucking insane if they took that idea to its logical conclusion. Women wouldn't wear skirts or bra because it's inappropriate for men to wear them, going by that logic. Of course, they don't care about logical consistency, they're too busy trying to teach those smelly virgins a lesson for daring to like a certain art style or video game.

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Prudish-ness like this is what ruined Japanese culture. There is nothing wrong with skin, and human form. The idea that showing it is bad is Puritan Christian bullshit. I guess if youre an ignorant jack-off though you dont know things like this, and just sort of base your opinions - well, your entire life off something someone else says. Instead of being an individual. Glad I am an independent thinker that forms my own opinions. Sucks being surrounded by dumbass sheep followers though. Read more.

Regnier was fucking badass, but Kendall is on another level.

Now that's hilarious.

What is the name of this aesthetic?

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>if women in games were armored like they were actually armored in history

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bruh

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looks comfy

ah fuck you leatherman!

That is literally more coverage than many mena already have in video games.

pretty sure they're referencing jojo's bizzare adventure

Aside from hentai games, what games have half-naked armored women? Games from 30 years ago?

It's the same with all the fags.

/thread

my wife plays mmo's
other than phone games mmo's have the highest number of women of any genre

>milk finger

I've noticed JRPGs are pretty popular with woman I know.

Clearly whoever made this has never played a single JRPG. The Japanese are obsessed with making men who wear slutty woman armor.

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SEETHING closeted breeder.

Of course not. You're a boy

yeah jrpgs are pretty popular too

Anyone remember David from Killer is Dead?

Centipedes make me feel 'funny'
Does that mean I secretly want to fuck them, Freud?

>favorite games are monster raising games, MMOs, and Animal Crossing
Haha, but at least I don't play dirty mobile games like some kind of girl, right guys?

why can't people just be happy
why can't people just live and let live
why can't people get over outrage culture

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top kek

Name 10 western games that came out in 2019 that feature women in skimpy armor

The Zero Suit is not aesthetic at all and looks like a fetish costume.

>why can't people get over outrage culture
Because that releases dopamine.

Automatically assuming the pretty boy with abs attracted the woman due to his abs is the greatest deal of cope.

Remind me, why did every woman in 2005-09 want Matthew McConaughey balls deep in them but didn't want Dave Batista?

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they love the drama. one of my guild masters was a woman, some even called her mom when she was ordering people around.

Based HotS team

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conan? he-man?

not anymore, he's a vegan shill now

because
face > body
but
buff body > skinny body

if you had left guys face on rights body then women would choose that over either of them
its that simple

so is this guy like an elementalist or what, nigga got trees for hair

Prettyboys in skimpy armor is a completely fine tradeoff for skimpy women. Stop being cowards Western devs.

facial symmetry

this

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attractive skinny men attract women, attractive buff men attract women, attractive people are attractive, why is this hard to understand.

Guy on the right doesn't even have a bad face. He just needs some style.

put him in a suit

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Ummm.. sorry sweatie but when a male character is dressed like that, it is a male power fantasy.
Ugh why can't men understand that it is completely different?

when a female character wears a bikini its a female beauty fantasy

Ugh no, bikinis are highly problematic and no woman would ever wear one willingly.

t. shutin incel who's never been to the beach
try having sex

the virgin chad vs the chad virgin

Proving the point that bikinis are rape by immediately forcing people to have sex.
I knew I was right the entire time.

This is how I know Yea Forums doesn't play video games.

Why is Arnie holding the sword like that?

More like

Face>>>>body, and the type of body a lady likes on a guy tends to be slight variations of the "toned physique", not specifically body builder types that are the size of a dump truck. A ugly guy with a ripped physique will get far less desirable females then skinny guys with pretty boy faces, even if that large physique is an attractive component.

This is the problem when framing your arguments: when you talk about the hypocrisy you'll use examples like fucking marcus fenix and kratos, but those guys are the equivalent of maxine caulfield or Aloy. Do guys wanna fuck maxine? Sure, but thats not what pops into your head when it comes to sexualization of vidya characters. Do better anons, stop looking like a fool.

Don't forget how Raiden wears heels too.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL EMBARRASSED! YOU'RE RUINING MY NARRATIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Step here, my child.

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>throw women's lingerie-design on men

Who is this?

Probably couldn't flex his arm properly in a lower position.

that CHAD FUCKING DWARF
Look at him and tell me he wouldn't give you serious love. Just try

Real life Girls fucking love Jotaro

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Male armor has a rich well of history to draw from. Female armor cannot be "realistic" by definition, because it's mere existence is a fiction.
Meaning designers have to make it up from scratch.

nigga that's what you do.
What happens is this:
-Random user says girls like muscular guys
-Another user replies saying durrr no girls only like sleek dudes you think any girl wants to fuck astaroth or ganondorf

When we talk about muscular we mean not marcus fenix. Even the guy in would look better if he put on muscle like the guys on the book covers.

I unironically think this design is pretty fucking cool. Fight me.

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20/10 absolute perfection. If she's in a game I need the game

Not a fan of the dickweap, no woman in a video game I’ve ever seen is wearing labia drapes.

I love how people confuse primary and secondary sexual features.

"Even the guy in would look better if he put on muscle like the guys on the book covers."
yeah this anons right see

Imagine it being a fighting game with gestures such as For Honor. All those dick themed dominance assertion executions and emotes. Fucking glorious dick sleeve.

first (you) was supposed to be for you

Why does he have a cuff on his left arm that isn't attached to anything?

so do feminists want a more openly sexual or less openly sexual society? i don't understand...

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I would be interested in the other fighters, the dickwrap might begin to work if meshed with general genrial focused aesthetics.

the problem isnt skimpy clothes.
its aesthetic taste within skimpy clothes.

for example;
on average men tend to be plenty fine with most skimpy clothes on women, since seeing more skin is always going to bring the aesthetic up to most guys. even if the actual outfit is ugly as sin.
most women who actually like the aesthetic of the male body, dont always find skimpy = good.
they want the skimpy outfit to actually look tasteful.
the example given with conan vs the metal tattoo look of the 1st guy for example.
the metal tattoo designs would actually work, if he had more to counter balance it. (the feather hat needs to go)

think if people had visuals like peacocks, where they show off their best features.
males look for bodily features to signify traits in health and reproduction.
females look for features that help with every day living. be it protective features, signs of life stability, etc.

if a male wants to show off he can take care of a woman with money, he wears expensive clothes.

if a female wants to show off she has birthing hips, she cant cover them up.

this is why when women DO cover stuff up, its stuff like makeup, padded bras, etc.

males wearing skimpy outfits actually make men seem like they have LESS to offer as a partner.

lastly, skimpy outfits add the visual effect of "dainty", which is a trait associated with inducing protective instincts in others. good for females, being the reproductive bottleneck, bad for males, as this takes resources away from protective women.
this is why bikini armor is looked as being ridiculous, even outside of its lack of protection. it also makes a person look "dainty" which is bad for combat. (even if armor was protective, but looked dainty, it would still have the same visual effect on us)
males can at least be overpowered by the fact they like it, but the reverse doesnt work for putting skimpy on guys. women are very RARELy overpowered by being aroused by it, to overcome the look of what was once a

If you think I wouldn’t rock that you’re sorely mistaken

I’m on board, let’s slut up the men too

far right is best

Why does cloud have like twenty belts?

-continued
...once a capable protective/supportive male, now looks a bit less capable.
lastly is of course the social side of things, but ive typed up enough.

The guys on the book covers don't have that physique. The guy you posted is too big and fluffy not to mention the head just doesn't fit. The other guys on the book cover are optimal, they have the right amount of muscle and fat.

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Even peak men are nowhere near as aesthetic and sexy as a decent woman

Isn't that just Voldo's normal outfit?

IF IT'S AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE IT'S A POWER FANTASY AND NOT A CONTRADICTION YOU BASTARD

To be fair, Argonian armor has always canonically been skimpy due to the environment they live in. There's an entire book dedicated to two men being hired to create armor for them, and one creates a really complicated, high defense, well crafted suit of armor, and it loses to a guy who tossed some leather together and called it a day.

Seriously though when are we getting out sexualized male game specifically for homos?

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For women beauty = power
so sexy girl characters are a female power fantasy

ask any stacy and she will tell you to your face that being attractive is fucking powerful

Men are aesthetically more pleasing than women. Dick is more aesthetic than pussy. Its our sexuality that comes to play in us preferring to look at naked girls. If we all were asexual women would be meh. Romans knew that.

I've played many games with male fanservice. This guy is the antagonist of Vagrant Story, and the MC literally runs around with assless chaps.

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I don't know, everyone loves boobs.

Stop posting pictures of men with your sick little power fantasy.

You will never have muscles like that.

This is TRUE equality.

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>user's never gotten a combat boner

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This desu. What's good for the goose is good for the gander

would be cool if they had some massive dick plates. codpiece man

Mad Max aka Leathers and Feathers aka Post Apoc. Gonzo

Everybody loves a cheeseburger. Doesnt meant its good. Its a sack of fat that required no work to create, no dedication, no nothing. You just win genetic lottery. That being said majority of boobs without bra are not very appealing. Look at african girls.

The best part is it'd be historical, codpieces on armor were fucking ginormous

I know 5 of them that play XIV.
They 4 of them play the 'trannylizards' people so affectionatly call them and the other one plays a cat.

sauce?

I am also OK with that, I thought brick shithouse Batman looked silly in the Arkham games. Why wouldn't I wanna look like a underwear model gymnast?

I'd watch it

Dicks hardly require work to create, user. Breasts will sag if you don't look after them, it's no different than a man's body. Everyone can appreciate a good pair.

Pretty much
My gf and femfriends always go for the sexy or cute character. Its not always Ivy pornstar levels of sexy but definitely sexy

Don't be fucking disingenuous here bro, whenever these arguments are brought up it always goes like this:

>but what about kratos!? Kratos is super hot and sexy and gets the girls hyper wet!

When someone clarify that statement, saying women typically dont find kratos sexy, its better to use an example like dante or cloud, the reaction is simply

>manlet skinnyboy, women love big guys!

Oh really. Then why isnt every boyband filled with bodybuilders? Why don't most chick flicks star dwayne johnson or vin diesel or dave batista? Why was twilight such a huge success with a skinnyboy on it? Why do female gamers tend to gear towards games like jrpgs or visual novels? Even the examples in tend to have body types that would appear on a guy like Jared Padelecki then a dude working at the wwe. Is everyone suffering from body dysmorphia instead of me!?

Sometimes I think women are right when they say men dont know what women want in a man. It tends to never be about what women want, its about what men want women to want.

now post the jojo edit

Have sex.

The honest to god truth is that real life women are hideous and can't stand 2D perfection. Men don't care because the idealized male form in video games is actually achievable via hard work / juicing.

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based gran
shut up woman

I Giorno Giovana detect a stawman

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Disgusted? Why?
They aren't spreading their assholes they just aren't covered you insecure closet faggot.
Have you never worked outside with other guys in the summer? hung out on beaches?
If shirtless guys make you nervous thats a huge reflection on you, and its probably because you're a faggot.

Bikini armor is parody on ancient Greece.

women don't even know what women want.

I dunno I'm more of an ass dude. I'd take a girl with a big round ass but flat tits over a big titty no ass girl anyday

Are you retarded or do you think Arnie is currently at his peak?

Why are you comparing boobs to dick? Compare boobs to pecks. Now that requires huge amount of effort to create and then maintain. Similarly every other part of the body is the same. Women just need to not be fat. Men must be muscular. Men bodies are work of art. Women are just passable.

it snows here year round and frostbite is fairly common, anyone who runs around shirtless here would most likely be drunk on vodka

wtf?
is that a bong on his dong?

Not a single fuck given.

Exactly! From mods, to fashion choices in MMOs, You can wear the most absurd thing as a male character and not feel bad about it.

>people have tried to make games like this before
>Square Enix's origional design for the Warrior of Light in Mobius Final Fantasy was really kinky for a male character
>backlash compelled SE to censor it
FUcking hell. I will never actually have this will I.

they want the power to decide whether or not whatever they like or dislike is accepted.

>thinking masculine and feminine bodies are interchangeable and equal in the ways they are flattered

Go take an art course. Or become one of the 40%, whichever

Anyone has the pictures of the XBX outfits for males? I don't have them right now

If I could make my male characters look like that, I'd do it in a heartbeat, especially if those were just tattoos or body paint.

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Damn. He cute

>Dante
Dante is muscular

>body builders
Where did bodybuilder come up once? Bodybuilders are short juiced up mega manlets
>Why do girls play jrpgs?
I dunno why don't girls play shooters like guys do? They don't just play jrpgs cus of muh fujos. There's a multitude of reasons for why girls play certain vidya game genres and why they don't play others.

>book cover physiques
Those book cover physiques feature in movies and ironically romance books made by women for women.

>Cuck speak
Nobody fully understands what anyone wants from the other sex. You make ot sound like it's a guy thing.

If we were to think like you we could make a case for dudes not liking ass and tits because guys like Gal Gadot and Taylor Swift and many other flat bitches

The entire original point of ZSS was to make Samus completely vulnerable and unprotected for the first time to instill fear in the player

They want to control women's sexuality, personality, and reproductive ability so they can tell them what to do what to think and what to feel. It's a form of power.
Ironic isn't it?
Bitch at society for controlling women and men for wanting women a certain way.
Are in fact simply manipulating women for the powers that be and whoever has the most money or power at the time so they can turn them into whatever they want.
Which is mostly mindless pansexual parrots who're either barren dog fuckers or brood mare whores who're desperate for any man who'll be able to put up with their schizophrenic bullshit for longer then a month.

Men tend to wear less and end up in more unintentionally sexual positions(in a heteronormative/attractive to fem homos and the entire rainbow of queers who're into het normal men)then women in games.

Think I'm kidding?
In a game aimed at the safe normie crowd...which sex will end up half naked or doing something that is openly sexually attractive to the opposite sex?

Senator Armstrong?

>Metal sheath for erect cock you will inevitably get during combat

Absolutely based

fuck me, I was going to mention that.

I'm confused, what does that picture have anything to do with the trannies in your head?

SHUT THE HELL UP! YOU'RE GODDAMN ANNOYING

>needing armor at all
>laughs in girugamesh

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I’m barely gay but I’d totally like more sexualized male designs, whether they’re “male power fantasies” or pretty boys. Most of the GG men that wear tight or revealing clothing look pretty cool

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is that a mod or can you really get nipple piercings in official FF15? That's fucking hot and seriously want to play that game now.

Yea Forums threw a hissyfit when FFXV appealed to women with its designs

Can I be sexualized AND perform sick taunts?

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it's basically advertisement for the brand or house

Only if you get started

Why are gays like this?

Woman love men who work hard and show dedication to things. Woaw imagine that.

like what?

>Dante is muscular
Yes, but does he look like fucking he-man!? Compared to the representation that most people bring up, dante looks fucking anorexic.

>Where did bodybuilder come up once? Bodybuilders are short juiced up mega manlets

Because when this conversation always pops the fuck up, we use fucking shao kahn as a reference for male sexual objectification. It's fucking retarded.

>I dunno why don't girls play shooters like guys do? They don't just play jrpgs cus of muh fujos. There's a multitude of reasons for why girls play certain vidya game genres and why they don't play others.

Maybe they do, maybe they don't but you can bet a hundred bucks on the fact that maybe a roid raged character on the cover of the shooter isn't getting them in.

>Those book cover physiques feature in movies and ironically romance books made by women for women.

Yeah, and as I said, they dont look like what you guys always bring up in this conversation. Those body types would look more at home in a final fantasy game then in a gears of war game.

>Nobody fully understands what anyone wants from the other sex. You make it sound like it's a guy thing.

You can easily figure this out if you study some biology or animal sciences. You will look at a peacock and tell me that it attracts its mates through its bulding neck muscles then its fucking tail feathers. You will look at a lion and say it attracts its mates with its claws then its lions mane.

Its not all that difficult to figure out how we as a species goes about mating and breeding, but its best to put your biases to the side.

>If we were to think like you we could make a case for dudes not liking ass and tits because guys like Gal Gadot and Taylor Swift and many other flat bitches

Its also like a fat chick thinking guys talking about big asses and big tits means she has a chance of getting with a guy because she has a big ass and big tits.

ITT:
Women are sexualised by because guys like naked women
Men aren't sexualised because fujos don't like muscular men.

Well, there is an official stamp on it, so I'm guessing yes you can.

I love it when Yea Forumsrgins try to tell everyone else what women like when Yea Forumsirgins have never touched a woman and base everything off of what they see on tumblr and twitter.

achievable natty?

>who's Jean d'arc.
Faggot.
And don't say she didn't fight, her own men said that she did.

females on suicide watch

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You can read all about what the woman fantasy is.

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Looks like a very shady bastard sword to be. He’s grasping the sword’s 2nd handle.

The only correct answer. Give us slutty armor and proper armor for men and women

>Men tend to wear less and end up in more unintentionally sexual positions(in a heteronormative/attractive to fem homos and the entire rainbow of queers who're into het normal men)then women in games.

i dont suggest otherwise, but if what you're saying is meant to counter what i said, maybe i didnt explain it very well, because thats not a counter. (its barely related)

I want to farm EXP with him in bed.

An official skin in Paladins, and lots of women love it.

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This. Basically give me pic related.

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implying i can't appreciate the male form while being comfortable with my own heterosexuality
>op u gay brah?

After a six year break from Yea Forums I'm glad to see we still have the same threads.

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>Dante is muscular
Yh but many other characters that aren't beefcakes are still considered unattractive power fantasies by you. Dantes physique resembles the guys on the books more than the slim guy that was posted earlier.

>Body builders
Forget about bodybuilders, I'm about guys like the ones on the book covers.

>roid raged character won't get them in
But a guy like the one on the book covers certainly would, hell it worked for the romance novels made by women for women.

>Book cover physiques look more like final fantasy
No, final fantasy characters tend to have almost zero musculature and are just slim and maybe have a two pack. Dante is very different to cloud in terms of physique.

>Fat chicks
Yh I guess so but saying girls don't like muscles just because the slim guys are well liked is like saying "guys don't like girls with assets, it's just their dysphoria speaking. Look at how popular jennifer aniston and Arianna Grande are" not taking into account how popular the books and things like magic mike are with women also.

I know you're going to respond but pls try not to bring up roided bodybuilders and focus on the book cover dudes.

tf are you talking about?
lots of male characters are just outright shirtless, like demi fiend, asura, geralt that one time, gladio that one time, kratos etc.
being shirtless technically shows more skin than bikini armor, suck my ass

Reminder
>Twinks attracts woman
>Massive guys dominates woman
If you are 6+,180lbs and 8/10, you can literally walk around and be attractive to woman, but remember, you are the one raping.

Feels good to be a "rapist" chad.

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I want to make passionate sex with axe and flail.

Pretty cool, easy to rape female enemies.

>He hasn't played a male elf in TERA
If you won't go find the sluts, you dumb piece of shit, don't complain that they don't exist.

Christ. It's like you went to one restaurant and said 'all food service is shit.' Cunt. Slutty males are everywhere and best, you just don't wanna look for them because you're too lazy.

based

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>Dantes physique resembles the guys on the books more than the slim guy
True form power fantasy Dante don't, and every sane man wanks to SDT Dante before bed.

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Without reading this thread there's probably a bunch of "I wouldn't mind, that looks cool!" posts.

And they're all liars.

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hell yeah
i actually do want my games to be borderline porn

Jokes on you, I approve equality in all places.

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This cover fucking rocks

How are they lying?

>Implying I wouldn't dress like this if it wasn't against the law

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Why would I feel embarrassed over a male stripper?

If anything, they need to get equal pay than what females do.

Not fair.

Nobody actually wants to play as a skimpy practically naked male. I guarantee any game with a near naked male MC wearing a stripper outfit wouldn't sell a lot.

Only literal niggers and asians prefer bikini armor to a beautiful set of armor.

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>double plurals

You may be a beefaroni chad, but at least the rest of us can speak.

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yes of course opinions are not monolithic but still in male fantasies they're pretty uniform concepts
every reply to me so far has been just random iterations of what they personally like but they don't follow anything discernable from a marketing point of view meanwhile the male power fantasy if you will is very fucking basic and easy

Pretty cool gladiator aesthetic. Would shit my pants if this guy was an enemy charging at me in a game.

why do i love males in helmets and mask so much?

Actually, with homosexual men it's sexual abuse

I think women should look like this. Fuck those useless meatsacks

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No amount of reverse psychology will make me change my mind. Yea Forums has tried over the years and keeps failing.

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Kai Greene is the incarnation of steroids so no.

Try to speak with my cock in your mouth.

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I schlick to vivec

You always show up in every thread screaming your balls off about your hatred of women. I pity you.

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I don't mind male nudity or revealing clothing, it's when fags start being romantic and touchy feely that I want to vomit
And I have two guy friends that are in gay love, it's fucking revolting watching them kiss.

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I'm not a woman, I don't think like a woman, I'm not going to pretend things like this bother me.
It's not my fault you cunts didnt mature past high school.

Name a game where the entire cast of female characters are in bikinis.
inb4 dead or alive extreme or whatever it's called.
The reality is that in most games with sexualised women, the women aren't always pushed to the brink of nudity. In sfiv we get cammy but we also get chun li and makoto.
Also the female stripper wear are mostly made to fit a theme and aren't entirely out of place. So we'd need a game with men like shao kahn and Urien with a mix of Fei long and Johnny cage levels of skin reveal not just an entire male cast in Calvin klein underwear in a fantasy world.

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>Name a game where the entire cast of female characters are in bikinis.
>inb4 dead or alive extreme or whatever it's called.

Thanks for doing my job for me.
Also whether or not theres female stripper games isn't a counter to my post anyway, that wasnt the point of my post.

Bikini armor is a power fantasy as well

*aztec dubstep starts playing*

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Johnny Cage needs to show more skin. DILF!

I love belial

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Cringe

This is better

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Go be a nigger somewhere else then

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Was he confirmed gay or was it a joke?

Looks like a Knights of the Round remake.

People do play as scantily clad males though? See: Shao kahn, Gill, Urien....

The reason why a game of men in stripper wear wouldn't sell is cus that would look ridiculous. If there was a game where with sumos,aztecs and gladiators... I don't think it's sales would suffer simply because they wear nude.

navigavi

where's the big cat guy from?

i do though
i've spent an hour or so trying to get the ballsack physics in skyrim just right

men walk around shirtless in video games all the time
you can start crying when women are walking around bare chested

@470255165

Not even gonna bother providing a (you). Keep trying.

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Always makes me think of this

>muh Male power fantasy

Fuck off, that's some made up bullshit.

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This

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Nobody cares about shirtless men, lemme see their bare ass with a tiny string in the middle.

>America ruins everything it touches
Not news.

maybe you faggot
learn to think for yourself

Man looks much sexier in a jockstrap then a G-string.

>admits officially he's homo
>calls others faggot

I am okay with that, I don't shame fictional women for slutty attire so why would I shame fictional men for manslutting.

Hot.

Because that's not manslutting, that's gayslutting.
The direct equivalent of that pic in the op is a butch dyke and you do complain about it.

share that shit motherfucker

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have sex

women are mentally children, they want things to bend to their will on any given time and don't want to care about the consequences.

would be pretty neat to see in video games

Don't have gay sex.

So what if he did? I'm gay and I would too.

And you're proving men are just as mentally undeveloped

What is with all the larping retards trying to pretend straight men like this gay shit?
Is this the new gangweeding, pretending Yea Forums is cool with this trash?

Woman are easily jealous. It's apart of their biology. The only difference is today men are beta's and will bend over backwards to not upset a woman in hopes of sex.

>living armor
a fine display

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>Cock fighting
A MAN CAN DREAM

>be gay
>More game companies are cucks to women that won't even buy the games
>Cover gross women in armor because equality
>More dudes are getting hotter
>They're going to start claiming that man I'm little armor isn't equal it's a power fantasy

What a strange time

>Yh but many other characters that aren't beefcakes are still considered unattractive power fantasies by you.

Thats not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, we always use bad examples when talking about this. We tend to equate muscles=womenly affection. Thats just not true.

>Forget about bodybuilders, I'm about guys like the ones on the book covers.

I would if people even in this thread would stop posting them as the same equivalent. Wanna win the argument? Hit then where it hurts.

>But a guy like the one on the book covers certainly would, hell it worked for the romance novels made by women for women.

But thats not whats brought up when gamers talk about this and we both know that.

>No, final fantasy characters tend to have almost zero musculature and are just slim and maybe have a two pack.

I don't know about that, clouds a pretty stacked guy in advent children. Maybe not so much in the new one but any ff protag in real like would still be bigger then the average dude.

Like I said, we're probably arguing past each other in this and misunderstanding esch others points. If it was my fault, I apologize. I'm not arguing per se that women like or don't like muscular guys, I'm arguing about using bad examples for this argument. Whenever the subject of sexual objectification comes up, no one uses the easy examples like dante or cloud or shit like that, they use conan the barbarian instead.

There are such a plethora of ways to argue against this subject but every single time I see it it's always some bara shit, even when dragons crown came under fire thdy used two half naked dwarves as an example of male objectification. Its dumb, use a better example.

>ew icky this clashes with my christian sensibilities

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Women want to exploit sexuality when it favors them and exclusively them. They're fine with instathotting and twitchthotting or what belledelphine does because it's about exploiting your body from a distance and making bank with it. They want to be able to sleep around but don't pay the consequences later on in life. They don't want fiction to show off skin so they can get more leverage in real life as a result.
It has fuck all to do with representation.

what the fuck are you talking about? Are you a cuck or a thot?

Their the new race from FFXIV

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Either way, he's not wrong.

>you need to be a christian to dislike fags
I have news for you: the vast majority of races is mostly homophobic, only white liberals "tolerate" (suck cock) like you stupid fucks.

Look at the picture and try using your brain this time.

These guys really tempt me to go back to FFXIV.

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He said absolutely nothing wrong, so how did you come to that conclusion? Projection like "you dislike cuckold shit so you must be a cuckold"?

>Tfw live in America
>Greatest country in the world supports fags
>Third worlders can't even keep a population and have to ban it

looks like Kratos, unironically. same with literally every superhero (whose "clothing" is basically just bodypaint). oh and most of the male enemies in God Hand whip it! whip it!.

also not vidya, but literally every "character" from the flick "300" is wearing even less.

tree-hat is pretty of cool tho, so is the cocksheath. go into battle wearing those and every enemy would run in fear. why arent those in games?

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absolute unit

But attractive men are cooler. I can confidently admit that without being sexually attracted to them.

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This appeals to (heterosexual) men, not women. The point of the OP is that women in games are made to be looked at by men. Now, you will want to point out that women don't want to look at men like the clown in the OP either but that's exactly the point.

Muscular men are sexualised but anons tend to bring up roid beefcakes(bad examples) to prove this and that's wrong.

Can we agree on this then?

>all of these (You)s
Yea Forums is full of niggers.

I thought I was not going to like Hrothgar and switch back to a Highlander, but I like them and have no plans on switching outside of maybe using a different face-skin color combo.

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you're right but its never about being right with the people you're countering

I fucking missquoted, I was talking to this retard

Noooooo OP is a fag who thinks a woman in a bikini is the same thing as a man in a bikini.

Go look at the body builders who can be tested for steroids and compare that to body builders who have it in their contract that they can't be tested or disqualified for steroids.

>Butch dyke equivalent to hot guy
I am fine with lesbians if they are sexy or cute, who would want an ugly piece of shit in a game?

B-but you won't wear a bikini into a battle, user.

Artists exaggerate things they like. Dizdoods like guys with big pecs and asses. How does that = "tranny" except in your obsessed mind?

It takes a quick glance to tell when a man is a power fantasy and when he's meant to be fag pandering for legbeards.
I can tell fags apart even when they don't dress like american antifa in real life, figures if I couldn't do it in a fucking videogame.

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>"all women are so immature and evil and stupid" says the man flailing and crying on Yea Forums

The fact that this picture exists at all means men are just as sexualized as women, they're just less whiny about it.

>if they are sexy or cute
Sorry but no can do, this is factually the direct equivalent of a fag in sexy armor.

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And that's the problem we are meant to "feel" like they do so we understand.

>Kiroranke's dick is actually visible (though shadowed)
Christ

>male horse balls ok
>female horse vagina not ok
Literally sexist.

I think this just means that gamers (hella gay) are only interested in horse cocks.

So you're an expert at "telling who fictional men are designed to make horny"? You must spend a lot of time examining all these half-naked men.

Nobody said horse balls are ok except white women in bestiality.

And it got censored because dudes thought it was uncomfortably sexy

I don't like looking at half-naked gay looking men. What now?

And you can clearly see Tanigaki's testicles hanging when he's shooting the wolverine while naked.

>tfw she has better arms than me

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This series is extremely "haha no homo".

She probably has bigger clit than your dick. So.

What about the RDR2 devs and the journalists who praised their horse balls?

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A HE!!!!!

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There's a lot of reasons, but mainly it's because they're cute.

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Cry more strawgrasping turbofag, straight men can tell. It's easy. River City Girls had people going around yelling "fags" long before I even knew the game existed.
It's as quick as telling when a lesbian is male pandering and when it's meant to be communist propaganda.

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I would think its the mystery that is alluring.

I'm not the one that brought up trannies, but no dude has hips anything like that. So I can see where they're coming from. If that offends you as a mutilated mentally ill freak, that's your problem.

why did this shit bait thread reached limit? am i missing something or are you guys retarded?

>she

This, I want the enemy to fear my cock.

That's one of them. Some would just argue that they don't like human faces.

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This dude's like a boss from God Hand or No More Heroes or something.

That's kinda cool, but too squiggly and random.

You will never get a real answer in this dumpster. Because it will mostly be hijacked by homos every single time who think women are attracted to effeminate man sluts presenting heir ass. Not even the homos can agree on whats attractive in a man, because half of them want teenage boys, the other half want their dad, but buff, because they were sexually abused growing up. and have daddy issues. Women are attracted to good looking dudes with high social status, video game characters cannot have high social status or be dominant in a believable manner. That's why the only male sexualization you can do is for deviant women who have a fetish for homosex, and there's a huge market for that in Japan to prove this, but there's no huge market for sexualized straight male in any market in the world when it comes to video games, because you cannot dedicate half the screen time to decrib8ing how dominant, assertive, charismatic, and influential the character is in video games like you can in female smut novels.

>communist propaganda
RCG is communist propaganda?

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