Stop normalizing Arch-Mages, I never asked to be one! Bethesda really needs to be aware of social conscious game design

Playing as a mage in Skyrim is already enough of a penalty, let me use my fire spray for 5 minutes to kill this worthless bandit

Sure, if you're a destruction pleb and not a conjuration patrician.

what were some good quests?

where is your soul supposed to go?

>want to make strict warrior playthrough
>only guild thats suitable makes me into a fucking furry
>have to settle for dark brotherhood
>become a stealth archer
every single time

>not having multiple characters that each become the leaders of one of the guilds
baka

Ok let my worthless antorach get destroyed in mere seconds

Some dragon will take it I assume.

>spam atronach
>letthemfight.gif

>Want to be a pure mage
>Start dabbling in conjuration magic
>Start conjuring weapons
>Conjure a fucking bow
>become a stealth archer
>every single time

You know you can be cured very easily and still be in the guild?

what about the dawnguard?

Dark Brotherhood is the best questline, followed by Thieves Guild. Everything else is forgotable.

The Thieves Guild quests relating to thievery, staging heists, shaking people down, and getting the Guild on its feet again was actually rather enjoyable. It was the first time I had ever bothered with becoming the Guild Master, and it became extremely clear to me that the Thieves Guild questline had a ton of time and work put into making it what it was. Of the Vanilla Guild questlines, it's the longest and most elaborate Everything to do with the Nightingales is complete fucking shit however, and Karliah is such a special fucking snowflake bitch. Nocturnal is also a cunt, and I hate the fact that you're forced to swear yourself under her name.

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Becomes part of Akatosh again.

They should force you to pick one. I was literally the arch mage while I was a two handed warrior. There should at least be a skill requirement to join a faction

All I know is that I once complained about being forced to pledge my soul in one of the guild questlines and a lorefag told me as a dragonborn that pledge was basically meaningless and I pokemon scammed a daedra.

forgot those bard fags

What I do is ignore the Nightingale questline after getting the outfit and skeleton key

Play Daggerfall Unity. Do it for mannimarco

>Be me, lunkhead barbarian
>I bash things and stick pointy end into fleshy parts
>Some dumb spellflingers let me into their guild
>I did a few tasks for them and now am their leader

is there a mod that makes all the important quests not shit?

You mean you don't like how you only have to learn like 5 or 6 basic spells to become a "expert/arch-mage" of magic and be looked up upon by masters of their schools?

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I wish they had fleshed out the Forsworn quest more. Madanach was fucking based.

post characters you wish were followers
I love his sermons fuck the memes

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>Dark Brotherhood, aka Everybody Dies: The Questline
It figures that the questlines related to characters built around stealth are the most elaborate and give you actual good armor.

You can't continue the Thieves Guild stuff until you give the Key back, so I immediately went to the Sepulcher and gave Nocturnal her shit back. Like I care, considering the game hands you Lockpicks by the truckload.

Thank god for mods, right? I think Immersive College of Winterhold lets you hand off the title of Arch-Mage to Tolfdir

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nope, 8 years into modding and no one has fixed Skyrims most apparent problems

DO YOU REMEMBER THE SUN?

Based.

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I outright played this as the gambit after being Hircine'd and used it as the EXCUSE the dragonborn takes so many hats and is so thoroughly hands-off about his actual job. Of course because its TES I had to even mod my own fucking excuse to the basic dissonance of it: My character was setting up an afterlife melee between a lot of capricious and short-goal-orientated daedra and "gods"

I also still convince myself that shivering isles is nothing but an incredibly contrived plan to make the Champion of Cyrodil think he's fucking Shiggy. The whole thing, even Jyggy existing was the deranged and almost pointless plan of a madgod to pick up a nice shiny trophy: You, and you all fucking bought it.

Unfortunately this is bullshit, but I do what I can.

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>join dawnguard
>guy gives me a crossbow
>fire it at a vampire that doesn’t see me
>become steal crossbow archer
Every fucking time

I always saw his as the one lorefag trying to discuss the plot while everyone ignores him and shitposts all day.

It’s not a bad description

i don't get it

>Skyrim sequel
>play as poor bastard who by chance draws the ire of the legendary Dragonborn
>trek to the College of Winterhold, as perhaps the Archmage can save you
>it's him
>flee to the Dark Brotherhood in the hopes of getting him whacked
>referred to the boss, as nobody else can do it
>it's him
>Benny Hill out of there
>get to Thieves' Guild
>Him

Isran

His name means "fool"or "idiot" in Icelandic.
He spouts MK babble.
Hmmmm makes you think.

does the dragonborn end up raping you in the end? Will he give you choice if you want it slow or fast?

>make a deal with vampires in desperation
>he's a vampire lord

>head to Dawnguard after that
>He's there

Thieves guild questline is great in the beginning when you do dirty deeds like destroying beehives, stealing shit and forcing people to pay, basically being a medieval mobster. Then the questline goes off the rails when the "twist" happens and all of the sudden it ends up being another "go fetch this shit to a cave"

every quest in the game ends up with you killing draugrs in caves

It's doesn't really bother me that you can be all at once, what really bothers me is that's the only requirement is to complete a quest line of fetch quests. What kind of game design is that? In Morrowind you had to actually fill requirements before you could progress in guilds

>do the most desperate thing imaginable and strike a deal with Molag-Bal to take him out
>he actually agrees, but on the condition that you best his current champion in a fight to the death
>GUESS WHO IT FUCKING IS

Yes, in fact it caught me off guard initially in how different it was from the usual quests, I thought I finally had found the one questline that was not fucking horseshit. Sadly I got my hopes up for "lol just kill some snow elves on this Dwemer dungeon and then kill this guy that was pretty chill until the devs decided he needed to die"

Once again thank god for mods. There’s something for every guild that requires you do take more jobs and learn the right skills before you can advance the story.

>m-maybe the bard college can help me
>open door
>guess who

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Mods don't invalidate that vanilla Skyrim is way too streamlined compared to earlier entries

>Or, you know, bring back actual classes

That is not necessary. You just need to make the big important quest you do for the mages guild not dependent on being a member of the guild. Separate it from the quest you do to get membership.

skyrim vr good on ps4?

>you will never go on adventures with your preacher bro, getting along well despite differing views and regularly getting into civil theological debates
Why even live?

>Ask the thane in each of the nine holds
>guess who
>Escape to Solstheim and join the Skaal
>you already fucking know
>Make a deal with the East Empire Company to leave Skyrim
>yep

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Any lorefag ITT to explain/confirm this? Is Dragonborn supposed to be SOUL or SOULLESS?

>Always go dual bound sword wielding sneakfucker so I don't see a problem with me fitting in all factions seamlessly.

Hey do you guys know of any mods to add scars to different locations on the face like put on across your nose?

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this was it for me. there's literally just like 3-4 different ways to play this game.

The dragonborn is Dragonborn because they have the soul of a dragon, and all dragon souls are property of Akatosh
By making deals with Daedra you’re essentially selling them something their bigger, more powerful brother already owns

Dragonborn achieved CHIM, this is why they can be anything and everything.
The truth is the whole universe is a play which is why the characters are referred to as actors and the player is the one doing improv while everyone else has dedicated roles.

I'm not an expert on TES lore but I'm certain that the dragonborn is a fragment of Akastosh soul, carrying out his will and shit, so I'm certain he has a SOUL Even if it's a small part of a bigger whole

Meridia best waifu

Then why do they keep accepting the deals if you have literally fucking nothing to give?

They want Akatosh to owe them a favor

The others are right about Akatosh, but I will add that the Psijics have some wacky ideas about "souls" of people that are probably true to some degree.
en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Old_Ways

You’re like that scam artist down the street who sells people things he doesn’t actually own and then skips out of town before he gets caught.

do you have to be a vampire first, then a werewolf? werewolves are immune to disease, arent they? or is that vampires?

which horse Yea Forums?

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>press button to disengage from the gameplay

That makes no sense. You're not selling them anything, Akatosh has had your soul all along. That'd be like a normal person selling their soul to Sithis and then immediately after "selling it" to Hircine too with no problem.

So for a normal person, that also means they can sell their soul multiple times. I mean why not, if everyone you "pretend sell it" to can end up asking favors from whoever actually has it? Akatosh just happens to be an especially solid deal.

No, normal people’s souls become property of the daedra they owe their soul to and they become servants/slaves/whatever of them in Oblivion after death

The Dragonborn will be claimed by Akatosh first no matter what because they kind of are Akatosh

The stealing parts of Thieves Guild questline are good. But as you said, everything else is bad and i found it offensively bad.

I stopped playing my thief character and when playing a new character I went to Riften I was fucking disgusted at how much of the game is dedicated to this fucking shit story.
There is an entire city, there are scores of characters, multiple uniquely voiced characters (Mages College get 2), an island and multiple dungeons that are closed off completely unless you're in the questline and it's all for some of the worst fucking writing I have seen in TES.

I should have known what I was in for when the first Thieves Guild related thing you encounter in the game is Brynjolf being a fucking retard of the highest magnitude.

As dull as the Companions questline was I wasn't enraged by how stupid and full of mary-sues it was.

God I'm still so fucking mad about the Thieves.

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Hermaeus Mora will control you for a few thousand years until Alduin ends the kalpa like he’s supposes to, combining with the Dragon Time God Oversoul, who gets a nice scrubbing in the Waters if Oblivion and reincarnated fir the next kalpa

He'll have to fight all the other princes who have a claim on my soul first.

Maybe I want to have a game where I can do everything in one playthrough because im not some neet who has thousands of hours to waste playing the same game over and over again.

he managed it with Miraak

buy my game

It’s especially insulting when the Thieves Guild in Oblivion was actually pretty fantastic

BUMP

>go around stealing all these crazy artifacts and top it off by sneaking into the imperial palace, nabbing and elder scroll, and becoming the new gray fox.
was pretty cool

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I wonder if we will ever find out of Konahrik was a Priest or not.

A while ago a Lorefag explained that the mask came from a timeline that shouldn’t exist anymore

Maybe he was like some kind of apprentice priest and they made a mask for him for when he “graduated” but he never did

His name translates to “Warlord” in Dragontongue and it has a batshit insane enchantment.

If he was a priest he would be close to Miraak level

Then maybe he was a really old dragon priest that died

>Bethesda creates the perfect girl that is Serana in dawnguard dlc
>can't marry her

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miraak wasn't sworn to nocturnal/hircine/however many other princes you make oathes to

>rape victim
>perfect girl

Basedthesda is keeping you from making a bad decision

I've heard the theory that the mask was made for you, and that alduin or whoever intended you to be one of their priests and serve them. So they gave each of the priests one of these masks, and knew only someone powerful enough to defeat all the priests could claim the final mask and be worthy of ruling alongside the dragons. Or something like that.

it bothers the jizz out of me that you can't complete the Gauldur legend quest without joining the mages guild, no matter what kind of character you are. there should have been a way to inquire about the excavation and offer your assistance as a contract body guard or something.

>go to a magical forest with magic moths fluttering around you while serana is giggling at you
wtf. every other character and scenario in skyrim is dull as shit and then you make my heart go doki doki like this?

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>Desperately appeal to a Daedric prince after months of searching
>Can't help you man, he owes me a favor

Being raped by Molag Bal is a badge of honor, as our lord Vivec, The Warrior-Poet, The Blade and the Lyre, Child of Truth and Falsehood, of Verse and Metaphor has taught us.

>Y-YOU'RE THE GRAY FOX!
That cowl was such a cool thing

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>Daedra have to fight and argue over who gets your soul when you die
>Akatosh rolls up, reclaims the part of his soul in you as it wasn't your soul to give in the first place
>flips off the daedra, 360s and walks out

>forgets The Legion
Sounds like you're a profligate to me.

Vivec is a pseudointellectual and gay

Why did I laugh at that.