Today I will remind them

I remember that one, peak god damn Yea Forums logic even if it was bait made to instantly kill a thread

Have Sex ™

comfy or fun , Yea Forums?

Yeah I did the same thing. I thought that the obsession of adding 80-100+ new Pokemon every gen was a bad idea by gen III or IV, and pointed out Gamefreak's laziness and incompetence all the while. So I'm have some fun with all the seething right now.

Hard to believe people like this exist.

one of the main things for games is to have fun. if all games were high art like okami or journey, then video games would be quite boring. a video game has to be fun

>fun

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But what is fun?You might enjoying platformers fun and consider platforming sequences in games fun but one might hate them.I think that was the point of OP.

comfy is actuall descriptive of why a game is fun

He was right. He was literally so fucking right and everybody mocked him for it.

This post isn't saying fun doesn't exist. If that's what you're getting from it you're a god damn brainlet. But if you can only defend your favorite game by saying "it's fun" without having any actual reasons why it's fun, your game is shit.

He is right though. You can't just say "it is fun" to describe why a game is good. You can say that to specify you like it and it is fun for you, but fun is subjective.

Comfy --> Fun --> Challenging --> repeat
How I usually cycle through games

All you fucking idiots in this thread defending this guy should make like a tree and kill yourself.

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He was right.
It's important for your game to be fun, but saying "it's fun" when discussing games is the equivalent of saying "fine" when someone asks you how you are.

hard to believe sub 60 IQ neanderthals like you exist

The fact he was mocked in the first place proves that Yea Forums has always been shit.

that's not what he is saying you dumb shit

Stop stealing memes from twitter

Nice rebuttal.

>one of the main things for games is to have fun
Nowhere is he disputing this
>if all games were high art like okami or journey, then video games would be quite boring
Only if you don't think games like okami and journey are fun
>a video game has to be fun
And finally:
Define "fun"

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He was wrong. He was literally so fucking wrong and was rightfully mocked for it.

This post is saying fun isn't valid praise. If that's what you got from it you're about average IQ. If you can defend your favorite game by saying "it's fun" without having to give any other reasons, your game is probably good.

He's right though. "Fun" is the end result of the interaction of systems, not a system itself. It's like if you ate a steak and someone asked you how it tastes and you just said "good". It may taste good, but just saying it's good doesn't tell me about the quality of the meat and its preparation method.

This. You fucking retards think this site is better than reddit or gamefaqs or resetera because you can just say retarded shit without thinking about it logically. The irony is the fact that those other sites have named accounts actively dissuades people from being retarded since they'll garner a reputation eventually. You can just say whatever you want here without any consequences since bans don't mean anything and the jannies don't even bother pruning low quality posts anymore. Fuck this place and fuck all you literal niggers who made it how it is.

>how's that steak user?
>good
>... is that all you have to say for it? that really doesn't tell me a lot about how it was prepared, the quality of the meat.
>fuck off faggot, i said it's good, let me eat my fucking steak

actual, observable, neolithic cretin

>Hey guys, this stake is good!
>What's so good about it?
>Holy shit... What the fuck is wrong with you retard? I just said it's good. Fucking buy it or else you stupid nigger.

He is right

Videogames aren't always "fun", sometimes they are boring grind fests but that's where the enjoyment comes from.

A game only needs to be entertaining enough.

Pretty much if all you really see is people describing anything as "fun" or "kino" on here, you know its not worth looking into.

Adding a handful of new guys each gen is a good way to keep it fresh, but Gamefreak followed the same stencil pattern every fucking gen. Three new legendary birds/dogs/etc, two legendaries for the cover, one legendary endgame powerhouse mon, secret legendary, end of dex dragon, weak route 1 bird and rat, catapiller and bee/butterfly, starting fire water grass. Instead of building off of what was a masterpiece they kept a stale formula and repainted the same turd each gen.

>This store's grapes are amazing.
>Why, what's so good about them?
>They're just... good, trust me bro.
>I think I'll just pirate a few to try for myself.
>BUT THAT'S STEALING!

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This is a website meant for discussion moron.

Eat shit summer fag

Good is a cop-out too, people can say something is good and it will be bad for the other person. I've said things were good, people hated. People have said things were good, I hated.

Nobody would constantly consume something or express interest or express satisfaction with something they thought was boring or bad. It's a given, retard. You need to quantify what makes it so fun or good for you, not qualify it with a blanket statement that provides absolutely zero substance as to what makes it worth while.

>The irony is the fact that those other sites have named accounts actively dissuades people from being retarded

The drawback is you see a lot more UNIRONICALLY poorly formatted or straight up retarded posts there, which is actual eye cancer to me. I can tolerate retardedness here because I can always rationalize it as just being bait, but on reddit I know the person is just honestly low IQ.

Somebody like Gordon Ramsay would be able to tell you exactly what makes the steak good. I would rather listen to Gordon Ramsay explain to me what makes good food than some random faggot on /ck/ going "UHHHHHH COMFY! BASED! MCCHIKEN!". Unfortunately Gordon Ramsay doesn't go on Yea Forums as far as I know.

Really? It would make me more upset if I imagined everyone as simply pretending to be retarded, because that would imply they were capable of actual intelligence.

Here's a food analogy for you dumb fucks
>oh my god the new restaurant is so good!!!!
>really? what kind of food do they sell
>the food is really good!
>what's so good about it?
>are you retarded? it's good food

Every casual babyshit Basedtendo game ever

Did he fix it?

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Basedtendo

>stake
Retard.

This, I have shit taste for food so as long as you put tons of seasonings I'll say it's good even if it's of terrible quality and not cooked properly

two autists but one has utilized his into a real skill which makes it a perk.

Actually adding 100+ is what kept it fresh and not adding enough is why X/Y and S/M became so stale

not everyone wants to see fucking ledyba at the start of the game AGAIN

When critiquing artistic mediums there are no universal metrics.

hurf durf get off ma vidyer

Actual fucking retards.

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The difference is that Gordon Ramsay is a famous chef who made a living doing what he's good at, you're talking about no name nobodies on a shitty gaming board. You actually listen to anonymous on Yea Forums?
You're retarded.

>8 years ago
What the fuck

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And yet there's not a single entity on the internet that knows more about gaming than us.
I don't know if that says a lot about us or the current state of gamers, but such is life.

wow great argument fagtron you really convinced me with those hot opinions

nice unfalsifiable fact retard

>just turn off your brain and it's good

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It's true. The only sites that comes close are RPGcodex but that's only for one genre, CRPGs, that don't require reflexes of any kind or Speeddemos but that site is full of people that make Yea Forums users look balanced.

Id be willing to listen to the people on that side of the argument if they werent the retards who use it to defend mass produced casualised braindead horseshit moviegames

If fun is subjective saying it's fun is a description to why a game is good.

Stop shilling Yea Forums and rpgcodex.

>Shilling
Everyone who browses Yea Forums who isn't a filthy phoneposter uses an ad blocker of some kind.

So then what’s the answer? Not add any new ones, add a few, keep the current but add new versions of them(alolan)?

You fags don't know shit.

you're so fucking stupid that i can't even begin to explain to you how stupid you are

fun is derivative enjoyment from an activity. if you have fucking fun, then you have fucking fun. that's the point of a hobby- a form of satisfaction. fun is satisfaction, you absolute fucking retard

Your utter despair amuses me. Now go back to post pikachuface on r/videogames.

>My favorite cinematic trash game got insulted and now I hate Yea Forums
The tale of every redditor who parrots "Yea Forums was always shit"

You can have fun from a guy flipping his dick in the face of another wrestler in the ring, or from a guy setting another on fire and putting him through a flaming table.
That doesn't make it good professional wrestling, it means you're a retard.

Most people on this board has probably put more hours into vidya than gordon has into cooking.

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This is a good way of thinking about it and I do the same type of classification. I can find enjoyment in a wide variety of games because I gladly accept that different games excel at delivering different experiences that aren’t necessarily better or worse then the other

I don't know what that is.

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Fun isn't a buzzword, but "Immersion" definitely fucking is. You can enjoy something for multiple reason, with decent justification. People who become "immersed" in a game are fucking pathetic.

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Objectively bad games can be fun, so I guess.

but they're fun
you dont hate fun do you?

I would knock your teeth out if you said that to my face

BASED

You have never heard of litcels.

if the goal of the entertainment is to provide fun to somebody and that somebody has their fun, then it's objectively successful in its endeavor you smoldering cunt

who are you to police normalfags and retards but another seething autist who decides to get mad because you're a soulless faggot devoid of happiness

kill yourself

Trying to flip what he said around doesn't answer the question, it just suggests you don't have an answer to why he is wrong.

Fun is a meaningless and reductive form of praise. If the best you can say about a game is that it's good because it is good, it's probably not a good game.

What do you intend to prove by posting this?

No they haven't. And even if they did, they hate video games now, because they get drunk on it, instead of taking it in in moderation, like fine wine. Gordon put a lot of time into cooking, and likes cooking. What a shit comparison.

a game doesnt have to be fun to be good, or good to be fun. the parameters have changed

that's just sad reality

Amazing, user outright explained it and you still replied as if he said fun doesn't exist despite him literally stating the exact opposite. You have actual shit for brains.

>"Excuse me sir, how is your meal?"
>"COMFY! BASED!"

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>Gordon put a lot of time into cooking
Sure, a lot, but not as much

Immersion is less of a buzzword than fun is

if you want to gatekeep the very act of enjoying a fucking hobby by "its not fun unless you explain why or you're a brainlet" then you can suck the fattest cock and whine while i have fun you insufferable faggot

It's possible to have fun with a bad game ironically, but generally speaking if a game isn't good then there's not much fun to be had playing it.

>Taking life advice from a guy who got thrown in prison and has to work minimum wage now
I seriously hope you guys don't do this. Almost as bad as people who look to DFW as a role model.

You're an illiterate retard.
>gatekeep
Pathetic.

Absolutely fucking based user dabbing on FF drones

I'd say it's more dissuading people from deviating away from their own brand of retardation if anything, not to say there's not that in its own form here

>You fucking retards think this site is better than reddit or gamefaqs or resetera because you can just say retarded shit without thinking about it logically.

You can do the exact same thing on those other sites. In fact it's why there's so much crossover between them and Yea Forums. Having a name tied to an account doesn't prevent people from saying stupid shit and lacking critical thinking skills.

>Taking life advice from a guy who got thrown in prison and has to work minimum wage now
rundown?

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Fun is not a seal of quality.
However.
On Yea Forums, people shit on good and bad games alike, so this argument is invalid.

Those comics were made by a namefag named Quentin. They may seem funny now in hindsight but back in the day he used to spam them constantly. He was underaged and got jailtime for a bomb threat to his school. Now he's like a fast food worker or something.

Pfft kek.

>waah you're trying to stop me from having fun waaah stop gatekeeping

Nobody fucking cares whether you personally had fun you insufferable cunt. Why should anyone give a fuck about your opinion on a game if you can't even explain what makes it fun?

If you have fun huffing shit fumes that's your own fucking business. But don't bring that shit here and then cry about gatekeeping when your opinion gets challenged and the best you can come up with is "it's fun!" like the limp dicked dullards who think "it's shit" is somehow valid criticism.

He didn't even post the bomb threat, which is the sad part.

It's a valid argument regardless of what games get shit on. Retards shitting on a good game won't make using fun as a seal of quality any less retarded, and vice versa.

Holy shit that's hilarious.
I stole an epic bag from him during an Ony 25 raid in WoW Cataclysm.He rolled higher than me for it but I made the argument that not only am I a priest which is automatically superior to whatever class he was, but he's Quentin and therefore also a faggot.Fuck you Quentin, my priest now forever has your Ony bag faggot.

The problem is people have different thresholds for fun.

People have grown accustomed to a mediocre "fun" which is just sufficient to get you out of bed in the morning. Real fun is something I bet many of you haven't felt from a game in a long time.

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Cringe

>Why should anyone give a fuck about your opinion on a game?
Fixed.

What do you hope to accomplish by posting this?

This is true. I used to play TF2 pubs for hours until I realised I wasn't having fun so much as simply being engaged enough that I wasn't bored.

If you play for """fun""" make sure it's actual fun, or it's just a waste of time.

No you just broke it. If nobody cares about anyone's opinion on a game than all discussion, criticism and praise is just shitposting and nothing else. And don't bother trying to cherry pick because this is equally as true for everyone's opinions.

>its fun
>why though
>f-fuck off

What is real fun and what is fake fun?

>its shit
>why though
>f-fuck off

This is why fun is a valid argument and retards who deny it are just trying to gatekeep

That's all it always is.

And that's exactly why I said you're a retard. Gatekeeping helps actual genuine quality products from being watered down for the mainstream ignorant masses that are content with little yet extremely damaging retarded content.

That's just your opinion
Nobody cares about your opinion.

Exactly.

Fake fun is the fun you have when drunk or high on drugs, basically the fun you have when your judgment is impaired and your brain is so dead it can't tell any better.
It's literally as in literally why when you're ready to go to sleep at 5 am in the morning you watch some dumb shit on youtube and laugh your ass off, your brain is in near shutdown mode and doesn't care about letting you know the content is fucking terrible. You'll figure that out the next time you watch it.

And nobody cares about yours either
checkmate athitits

That will never be a valid argument for anything in your life. You will never convince anyone of anything by saying "it's fun" or "it sucks." Get a brain.

all fun is fake fun

>n-no u
Ok kid

Don't even care lmao. He deserved the dox

Fun is subjective. The same experience won't bring the same level of fun for different people. It's correct to not use the term 'fun'.

all fun is real fun

>It's literally as in literally why when you're ready to go to sleep at 5 am in the morning you watch some dumb shit on youtube and laugh your ass off
I have literally never experienced this in any way, shape, or form in the history of my recollected childhood or adulthood, sober or inebriated or intoxicated in any manner or fashion in any way ever.
And the fact that you justify it as your brain letting you know that the content is terrible by making you laugh when, ultimately, your judgment is impaired, tells me that your walls (usually emotional walls reinforced with complacency and contempt for those have wonder in the world) have weakened. Real fun and fake fun are very likely far different than how you perceive them.

So if I put out a janky piece of shit game with broken controls and game-breaking bugs but at least one person had mild amount of fun with it then it's objectively successful

Yeah no, fuck right off you subhuman ghoul

>You will never convince anyone of anything by saying "it's fun" or "it sucks."
Actually my real life interactions with my friends, acquaintances, and co-workers on a daily basis involves the exchange of opinions for information. Maybe leave your basement.

There's fun and fun for retards. Mr. Bean is mild humor, Marvel quips are humor for mentally handicapped individuals. Live with it.

Sure it does. Why should anyone give a fuck about your opinion?

Saying a game is comfy is the same exact thing as saying it's fun. How is the game comfy? Why do you think the game is comfy?
Use your big boy words and explain why you think so.

You should take your own advice

all fake fun is real fun

He unironically was right.
I thought Dark Souls was fun.
I thought Cawwa Doody was fun.
It doesn't mean anything on it's own, you need to explain why it was fun, why someone else would find it fun.

>tfw immediately stop playing after i stop having fun
i truly am enlightened

Have fun.

holy friggin' based

the answer is not making so many trashy shitmons as filler
every generation has them, and they should have been retired as the series went on
it was an obvious conclusion that eventually the workload would just be too much, and now that it's come to pass everyone has their panties in a knot about it

You're only reinforcing my claim that real fun and fake fun are very different than what you believe, and your current views stem from complacency.

No u

No, the answer is to cut. Game Freak made the right move, but with the wrong execution.

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Eh, Fun is a good catch-all when you can't describe the reason why you find the game good.
Some games are like this: I can't tell you why I like going back to play Bethesda RPGs as often as I do, because I don't see anything particularly good about them in general.
Though my suspicion is that they've discovered the Video Game equivalent of Cocaine and are making their games from it

>it's been 8 years since this post was made
>mfw i was one of the people that replied to him with a smug anime reaction image

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Fuck you, Gen 5 starting fresh and only giving access to old shit in the postgame was totally the way to go.

In other words it's not good.

Because there are people on this planet who trust me and enjoy my presence. Maybe leave your basement

But it's fun.

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>some of the people in that thread are dead now

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Your unintelligent posts and insufferable demeanor suggest otherwise. I don't think anyone on this planet trusts you or enjoys your presence.

What the fuck is with that pepe?

I wanted to make the "God of War" vs "Ninja Gaiden Black" comparison but you'd find shitters arguing about this too.
>Ninja Gaiden
>keeps you constantly on the edge of your seat
>have to constantly keep moving
>every single kill is earned, every combo you nail has meaning
>have to focus on enemy attack and projectile patterns because a few wrong moves and you're dead
>God of War
>Le chain swords, le blood, le rip le head qte xD
>overabundance of payoff even at higher levels of difficulty
I think it really does depend on who you're catering to, but to me there's definitely fun and cheap fun.
>RE2r
>Check gamefags, resetera, neofag, reddit
>OMGLEBESTURFDURFILOVEIT
>read some vague attempt at complaining
>-369 kys
>check Yea Forums
>even through all the muttposting you had actual discussions on level designs, reasons why it's a good game and reasons why it's flawed, weeks before the game and weeks after
Fuck you, it's better to be sincere in a hateful environment than a bunch of fucking braindead drones in denial.

is it really that hard to explain why you like something or why something is good without just saying because it's fun?

>Your unintelligent posts and insufferable demeanor suggest otherwise. I don't think anyone on this planet trusts you or enjoys your presence.
I don't care what you think

:)

I was making a statement of fact, not an opinion. But thanks for removing all doubt with your insufferable reply.

Oh? As opposed to the braindead drones who mocked the "fun is a buzzword" guy without thinking about it logically? You seem to have missed the point.

Personally I'm sick of people using fun as an excuse for enjoying things.
Tastes are subjective, which means that what you enjoy is different from what's actually good.
Rather than being a non-sentient retard with literally 0 control over your own emotions, you can train yourself.
Stop enjoying things that are bad, and start enjoying things that are good.
Enjoying something is no excuse for continuing to enjoy it.

>"it's fun with friends"
Fucking this. Minecraft is one of them. If it takes outside content to be good (aka, multiplayer or mods) it's shit, period.

Fun is indeed a buzzword. It wouldn't be if casual players didn't use it to justify why they like a factually shit game without ever explaining anything else.

Because it’s comfy.

I-IT DOESNT MATTER ITS LE FUN!!!!

"Fun with friends" is legitimate though. Some things are just much funner with friends then by yourself. You do have friends, right?

Any shit game is fun with friends, that's why it's a non-argument.

your friends aren't part of the game

There's not a single game on this planet that isn't funner with people you like to spend time with.

Conflict Desert Storm is an objectively TERRIBLE video game.
I played through it multiple times with my friends.
That does not mean it's suddenly 'good'.

Minecraft is enjoyable when playing by yourself as well.

stop with this you do have friends meme

>Minecraft is enjoyable when playing by yourself as well.
When you have autism and/or was a teenager.

imagine being a soulless drone who only likes what other people tell them its okay to like

lmfao

Fun is not real, it's a brain disorder like autism

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is it you, right?

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all fake is real