Pokémon has never looked this good
Pokémon has never looked this good
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Well, it never looked good.
And it still doesn't.
True, but it doesn't exist in a bubble.
Imagine what the game would look like if it was handled by a competent studio like Genius Sonority
I guess that's technically true.
thread theme song
>Good
>You can count the polygons on the street lights
Count them
16
I love this fit girl so much, FUCK.
What the fuck
I'll just show this.
The people who design the human characters are literally carrying the franchise at this point.
Wrong.
Gen 2 and 3 shit all over that.
pretty much
BASED
Kirara canonically plays the shitty-looking Aikatsu 3DS games, you can't use her to shitpost Pokémon.
>posts Yokai Watch
>when the game literally runs at 10fps and drops to 5 if you use the bike
Fuck off
I want to fuck them
>Seething Poketard spouting exaggerated falseinfo
Cute.
this,
i'm litrally only buying pokemon sword because of this one character and because i'm a huge tomboyfag.
if i wasn't such a filthy tomboy fag you would have a hard time selling me these games
Where are the NPC's and what if you can't enter in the houses?
Reminder that she will only show up in one fight and she will not appear anymore.
that's nothing compared to literal vanishing trees
You fucking nigger don't buy the damn game. At LEAST buy it second hand or used so GF don't get any money for it, don't be an actual blind drone just because your PP hurts.
Even better just wank to the porn instead, it'll save you on 60 bucks
I don't care
I don't have a swicth
Wow, it almost looks as good as a Gamecube game
>buying a game solely for one character that will only show up for 10 minutes of the game max
>supporting a shitty franchise cutting more and more content but pricing their games as more expensive just because of your dick
Are waifufags the most mentally ill people on earth?
why would you buy a game for a system you don't own
>implying
The complaining about the framerate got so based Level-5 had to announce a patch after the game came out that did almost nothing to actually fix the framerate. If you aren’t playing in handheld, which is still hot garbage, the game will shit on itself if you try to explore. God forbid you go into a city.
Or the vanishing Giant Steelix, Glitched Giant Arcanine, Charizard not breathing from his mouth, Wingull and etc.
Why would I buy?
>Implying the framerate will not drop for the giant battles
>A Switch game has low framerate
Holy hell, what a shock. What's Game Freak's excuse when the game literally looks like worse than a GameCube game?
Good question. God I can't wait for the big tiddy art for her, the only saving grace of Sw/Sh is the OST and art, like always
Pokémon has always looked like shit. So this still looks like shit but it's better than all the shit that proceeded it. So you are right, as this shit never looked this good
You mean Pokémon has never looked good
gen 5 looked gorgeous though.
>we will never get a pokemon game with as much effort as B/W2
Imagine being so indoctrinated to think that dogshit 3D and the worst sprite scaling in a commercial product look not only acceptable, but gorgeous.
Pretty meh ngl famalamadingdong
I don’t complain about the battles because even in pre release footage and demos the framerate was shown to be terrible so we already knew what we were getting into. The actual overworld though? Please. The game isn’t visually demanding at all. In fact, it’s one of the worst looking games on the Switch, so why Level-5 couldn’t optimize it for the Switch? I have no idea. It’s like beta testers don’t exist at that studio.
The DLC is what really has me worried. They are adding an extra final boss, that’s supposed to be the strongest Yokai ever, yet the final boss battle in itself was like fighting against the game to even run without crashing. You think I’m bullshitting, go watch any gameplay video online of the final boss fight. Good fucking lord.
I hope Pokemon never does real-time.
Dude, it's not even a Mainline game it's a Spin Off from the 2000's.
Imagine being so retarded you conveniently forget it was a DS game with that level of quality.
The animated sprites have more soul and character to them than the 3D shit GF moved with from gen 6 onwards
.
>I hope Pokemon never does real-time.
Don't worry, they never will, that'd require actual innovation on their part.
>Pokemon doesn't look "this good"
>when the example of "this good" is a screenshot of Pokemon Sword and Shield.
What.
Never Ever
Is this a new screenshot? Not seen it before.
Closet fag, just come out
If you honestly think that's bad, you should see the final boss fight in Wonderful 101. The game slows down to an absolute crawl. Nintendo consoles can't handle too much or they start to chug.
>'m litrally only buying pokemon sword because of this one character
it's literally makoto but with pokemon sameface
true you make a good point but so does maylene and she is also a fighting type tomboy in diamond and pearl but i still played it just for her.
you make a good point i will buy it second hand then, as i hate all the choices they have made in terms of gameplay and animations but i love the uk theme and the characters. also the fact they didn't make the evil team steam punked themed with the name team steam (which could be like uk team skull) was a waste apparently they are called team yell and they sound really lame as lame as team flare are.
i hate they are cutting content as much as you do but i'm seriously weak to tomboys both fictional and irl i'm sorry they really turn me on badly
Daily reminder that Dynamax 'mons are completely separate models.
i know i love makoto also that's why i love bea so much makoto is my ideal woman
...What Pokemon?
Innovation =/= good
It's not like I don't get you, she's one the cutest girls in pokemon, but fuck man. Cute girls only make good games better, they can't make a shitty game good. If you must get it at least pirate it.
>Pokémon has never looked this good
Yeah, and Masuda is cutting mons to bring high-quality animations as he also said.
>Could just scale them upwards and tint the coloring
>But no, every single facial expression and change of size from squashing and stretching needs to have its own separate model so it fills the cartridge up
Imagine how large a Pokemon game would be without all of this unnecessary shit. It's probably be like 1.5gb at most.
>Nintendo consoles can't handle too much or they start to chug.
It's not "nintendo consoles". It's any platform when you push it too hard. The same happens on PS4, happened on PS3, happens on Xbox One, happened on 360, and will happen on a PC if you play a game that pushes it.
The thing is most devs get away with it because the majority of gaming audiences don't care. People either don't notice or are willing to put up with frame rate drops, so there's little reason for devs to prioritize absolute perfect performance. And on a limited hardware set (aka a console) that means they can and will use that leeway to scale things up and/or make things prettier.
SOUL
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Gamefreak getting outdone by chinks on a mobile game
Retards still buy their shit
Don't be a waifunigger man just wank to the art and all the porn that'll come from the game. It's pokemon, there'll be plenty. Just don't contribute to the game's sales so GF don't get the idea people actually want them to keep cutting corners
Innovation in a series that has been formulaic for decades and has barely done anything new (that it hasn't stripped away in future titles at least) IS good. Though I wouldn't trust GF to execute anything new well, they have no passion for the series and it's ridiculously obvious now
The new girls got so much art while the old one didn't, hopefully Masters will bring more stuff, more good art for Flannery and Gardenia.
what is this
Platform doesn't matter, half the discussion going on in this thread is about how games have to be tailored for their specific platform to look good. DS Pokémon games had an unholy mix of basic 3D and 2D sprites with zero thought given to how camera movement morphs and distorts them, making them look like shit constantly being smeared across the screen.
>soul
So you have no argument anyway.
>Pokémon has never before looked this good
FTFY
I agree.
kek even the shill sites are starting to turn on the game, this is beautiful
It's just fanarts of someone's cool ideas on what their pokemon game look like.
They’ve been innovating for the past two gens though, and this one is no different. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t innovating. Get fucked.
innovation also =/= bad
>Blastoise not firing from his cannons
>Charizard not breathing from his mouth
>What's next Venusaur firing solar beam from the head?
From a japanease trailer. The same of Gigamax with more scenes
>They’ve been innovating
lol
>60 Pokémon
>all of which only have 2 animations
>no story
>2D character art
>not even a maingame just a couple of levels and a 15 minute tutorial
Chinese developers have so much potential. Why do they never use it?
>innovating
Yeah by removing the new things they actually make and cutting corners with every new game. Making the games easier and having S/M literally hold your hand for most of the game isn't "innovation", it's regression. SW/SH is the biggest example of regression in the series, they're certainly innovating what it means to fuck up your big-seller series alright
Pokemon but giant, what a great innovation totally not seen in the series... Cough Cough the Anime.
>all by a chinese bootleg team
>still looks way better than anything GF have shat out in the past 5 years
Also unexpectedly in the Detective Pikachu movie, where it was really based.
Because any actual smart Chinese person leaves China immediately and then gets picked up by shitty companies that make mobile shit.
honestly, the shit that has annoyed me the most about this debacle so far is people pretending pokémon games haven't always done the absolute bare minimum.
not a single game actually looks any good. stop implying that stuff is specific to this game.
that does not make it okay
it was somewhat decent till the beatboxing started
Degenerate foot faggot
i know it doesn't, but reading people complaining about this game specifically just really grinds my gears
tfw a chinese bootleg game has better animations than Gamefreak
>move to 3D
>move to HD
>riding Pokémon
>changing the Gym formula two generations in a row
>games are more story focused
>open world
>free roaming camera
>no more grid based movement
>new gimmicks for battles that actually change the way the game is played
>character customization
>multiplayer hubs
>another new type
>character expressiveness
>overworld encounters
>regional form changes
>not innovative
The reason why people are freaking out now is because Masuda is using an increase in production values as an excuse in screwing people over on transfers
Buy her game
>catching up to what other devs managed on the N64
>innovative
I can't, it's free to play. But I have her figure.
Most of that shit was invented before the 3D era of Pokemon.
Its 2019, this shit might have been acceptable on the 3DS in 2013 for X&Y, theres really no excuse for your game to look like it still belongs in 2013 on new hardware.
don't be such a fucking retard then,
People only started to complain about the visual quality when Masuda shat out the excuse that they were cutting half the dex to focus on making the game look graphically beautiful
What are you talking about, the background areas look about the same quality as the Wii to me. Infact, the image you posted kinda looks worse than the Wii.
..Yes, that is in fact innovative.
>Genius Sonority
What are they up to nowdays, anyway?
Pokemon was never about graphics and fancy animations. If you whine about that shit, you're not a true Pokemon fan.
>open world
>free roaming camera
>new gimmicks for battles that actually change the way the game is played
>character expressiveness
why are you blatantly lying lmao
Also half the stuff they "innovated" got dropped 1 gen after, GF are hacks
Play their game.
then just go on gelbooru and save the $60
>i'm litrally only buying pokemon sword because of this one character and because i'm a huge tomboyfag.
unironically kill yourself
Are you retarded
what
>stoooop whining about shit that Masuda specifically said he was improving on for this gen of pokemon you entitled toxic gamers!
Fuck man, just google her. No need to buy a game just to look at her.
>If you don't eat shit like a good little slut for Gamefreak you are not a true Pokemon fan!
Oh well, turns out that me buying and enjoying all Pokemon games until gen 5 means I am not a true fan.
>the BW2 hivemind strikes as soon as someone insults pre-3DS games
okay got it i won't add to their sales i think instead i'll just use the money to work on my own rpg game i'm making in rpg maker.
because i love tomboys but i'm really not happy with how game freak has been handling the franchise recently especially with how it keeps cutting content, that's why i never bought lets go or ultra, though i made the mistake of buying oras as gen 3 is my favourite gen without knowing they cut out the battle frontier because they were to lazy to implement the best post game in the history of the franchise.
You bootlickers don't see the problem. The problem isn't that the graphics/animations are bad. It's that GF is incompetent and cutting Pokemon out because they wanted to focus on higher-quality animations, despite the animations being reused from previous animations AND low quality.
Like well-trained monkeys.
Of course a tomboyfag would be such a cuck
Why buy the game for one girl when just searching her on a booru will give you 100x more content for her thean the two minutes of screentime she will end up having?
B-b-b-b-ut..... SHILL!!!
i'll go on gelbooru and pocket the 60 bucks then.
if i did that i wouldn't be able to experience tomboys ever again
i can be a total spic when it comes to tomboys my love for them makes me do dumb things sometimes or think dumb not going to lie here
Except that wasn’t the only cited reason in context and people are just so butt devestated they’re pretending not to understand.
>open world
Why do people still believe this?
Are you, nigger? Let me explain it for a brainlet like you.
>open world
The games have only gotten more and more linear as time has gone on you dumbass.
>free roaming camera
For 1 specific area and even then it's awful graphically and has dumb shit like pokemon spawning by popping out of the ground
>new gimmicks for battles that actually change the way the game is played
All removed in gen 8 to be replaced with BIG POKEMON XD, a gimmick no one asked for
>character expressiveness
2 facial expressions and reused animations across games are not expressive, you retarded drones love to grasp at straws to justify Game Freak's incompetence don't you?
I don't even get angry anymore. Just sad that chinks of all people manage to do what GF seems incapable of.
Pokemon should never have gone full 3D
>open world
The Wild Area?
>free roaming camera
They literally showed it in the Direct and the Treehouse
>new gimmicks for battles that actually change the way the game is played
Megas, Z-Moves, and the new Dyna/Gigantamaxing?
>character expressiveness
Sword and Shield is the most expressive Pokémon games we’ve ever gotten. Have you seen any footage at all?
Notice how the drone doesn't have an argument of his own either.
Their cited reasons are all bullshit though. They designed the 3D models to be future-proof, they said it them-fucking-selves yet they're too lazy to port over the rest of the dex.
But will the gameplay drag on from slow tedium and will the game be bogged down in countless and boring cutscenes? That's the more important thing? All the pretty graphics in the world can't save a boring slog.
don't you know? an open world is a flat plain with nothing but enemy encounters in it
I don't often call something cringe, but god damn, I was physically recoiling for the duration. I guess he got 5 million views worth of ad hits though, so props to him for abandoning his shame to get money.
Read >Sword and Shield is the most expressive Pokémon games we’ve ever gotten. Have you seen any footage at all?
Gen 5 trumps the shit out of SW/SH in terms of expressiveness. Even fucking NPCs were full of personality thanks to the sprite animations, and I didn't even like gen 5 that much
graphically? yes. but it also never looked so soulless
I can guarantee that the pokemon in this game are limited to a small selection of abilities or even no selection at all but the same 4 based on which pokemon it is.
>the pokemon actually move to attack their opponents and actual impact can be felt by the moves
>mewtwo teleporting
UNF
I hope this chinkshit video gets so much more popular so more people are aware of how lazy GF are
theodore, obviously
what a cutie
pokemon lets go looks great
There's no fucking way for the SwSh defense force to respond to this.
Doesn't matter, it's a chinkshit mobile game and yet it still has better quality animation and more soul to it than SW/SH
have you not seen their responses?
>b-b-but the game only has 60 pokemon! i-if anything it proves GF right!
>small chink sweatshop devs on a bootleg budget
>vs $90 billion dollar
Alvin is grabbing the couch, he's definitely getting the best head.
It has better quality in this case because it has a much more limited scope.
This is a JRPG from 2008.
>A fraction of the pokemon
>Cant modify them in any way
The difference with the chink game is the fact that pokemon have a predetermined move set bound to said pokemon, and as such you can develop really nice animations since its the only moves they can do. Charizard might do flamethrower real nice, but you also have to do animations for shit like drago meteor, seismic toss, and random shit like cut because people can be stupid with movesets.
Is this an excuse? Not exactly. But the chinese game has way less work they have to consider when making nice animations since they only have to work on what looks like 3 moves per pokemon as opposed to the several hundred moves in existance.
Then what's GF's excuse for the animations still being lifeless and recycled despite them cutting out half the dex? That's a limited scope too
Yeah you are retarded.
>The games have only gotten more and more linear as time has gone on you dumbass
Yet in this generation they introduce a huge area in the region that is specifically open world
>For 1 specific area
So then it’s not a lie, you retard
>and even then it's awful graphically and has dumb shit like pokemon spawning by popping out of the ground
What does any of that have to do with the free roaming camera you absolute mong?
>All removed in gen 8 to be replaced with BIG POKEMON XD
Which is literally both gimmicks mixed into one while also making the Pokémon bigger. Fancy that.
>2 facial expressions
We’ve actually seen about 6 different facial expressions alone for the MC, more than any previous Pokémon game, even the Genius Sonority titles. And that’s just the MC, we haven’t even talked about our exuberant Champion, the Gym Leaders, the fucking Chairman who’s been flailing all over the place in all the footage of him, and the rival.
Fucking idiot, if you are going to argue better be able to back up your claims.
gotta be theodore, the fat bitch sucking his cock knows how to use her mouth as evident by the milkshakes she obviously slurps in seconds.
You're right, and it should look a lot better by today's standard for a AAA game. Imagine realistic graphics in a Pokemon game. It would be beautiful.
It's funnier to me that shills act like it's a legitimate threat. Like people will actually drop Swooshie to play the superior Chinese bootleg. They're defaming it because it further proves Game Freak's laziness.
>Pokemon was never about catching 'em all, that was just the American tagline. If you whine about that shit, you're not a true Pokemon fan.
What was Pokemon about anyway? I keep buying these games but apparently I've been playing them wrong all these years.
>Has all the weather trio because even the chinks know they're the best.
Giratina is great too
too bad the gameplay is garbage
>Groudon’s model is just the one from the main games
Why do they always do this to my bro?
The mobile game still has far fewer options.
It's a fucking mobile game, what do you expect? A mobile game should not have better and more quality animations than the first mainline console game of the series.
>actually defending Game Freak's shit ethic of work because you got 1 area in the entire game with free camera movement
The entire game should've had free camera movement. SW/SH is a glorified 3DS game but for 20 dollars extra with even less content than the 3DS games. Open your eyes drone
virtual limitless budget
standardized 3d models
fuck off shill you retards have literally no excuse.
>Can't say anything about the Battle System but "gimmicks"
Why aren't doubles and triples the norm for gym battles now when they obviously have more depth? Are the designers too shit to craft interesting challenges with them?
>Can't say anything about the shit balancing
Of course.
>No more grid based movement
REACHING
No, no one is defending anything. An user implied GameFreak haven’t been innovating for the past few generations, I proved they have, and your dumbass tried to beg to differ. If anyone is a drone it’s anons like you who cheerfully flock to threads and twitter posts to shit on a game that deserves to be shitted on but shitting on it for the wrong reasons. Outright misinformed. What a clueless retard you are.
>Joe Merrick on suicide watch
That Gengar animation with the guitar tho
A SNES Pokémon game could have been great, I wonder why this never happened.
Its arm gets way too muscular
Are you dumb? Megas, Z-Moves, and Dyna/Gigantamaxing have to do with the battle system, but since they are gimmicks, they don’t count? What? And regardless? I also listed the introduction of another new type. Fairies, which have also changed the battle system, but that doesn’t count either huh? What about horde encounters? Totems where they can call allied Pokémon? None of that counts? Do Inverse Battles count? How about the UI showing moves that are and aren’t SE against a certain Pokémon’s type? None of that is innovating for Pokémon?
And balancing has nothing to do with innovation you retard.
>REACHING
Grid based movement hasn’t been a thing since Gen 6, which also coincidentally went from 4 directional to 8, which is innovating.
Dumbass
I find myself agreeing with all the detractors, but it's still going to be a fun game. If I really thought we could make Game Freak work harder via jaded boomer boycott, I would, but it simply cannot be helped. Of course it should look better, I still want to play it
Their innovations have been what other RPG series have done years ago and far better though. Praising Game Freak for actually catching up with the industry isn't much, especially when for every step forward they take two steps back. Stop being such a fucking drone and stop accepting mediocrity.
Pomemon started as the snes was dying/dead
Because all main pokemon games were made specifically only for handheld (this include Sword and Shield for Switch Lite too).
more soulful than anything GF have done in years, how the fuck
If you're so desperate to play it at least don't be a retard and make sure you buy it second-hand/used so GF don't profit off your purchase. Or pirate it.
Oh yeah lets ignore the fact that Pokemon are literally the highest grossing franchise in the world
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Those poor small indie dev bastards
Why the fuck is this a thing.
ok this is based
They aren’t too lazy they don’t want to, the sheer number of mons is making it so nobody can ever get attached to the new ones and there’s too much functional overlap.
>the sheer number of mons is making it so nobody can ever get attached to the new ones
that's just blatantly untrue if you've been in any corner of the internet at all since the new pokemon got announced
hell the one that got shown off a few days ago people love too
the pokemon designs are the one thing that gf hasn't, and presumably will not fuck up no matter how garbage the games get
>hurr they're cutting the dex so people can like the new mons and the new mons only11!!1!
At least try to put some effort in you dumbass, that's blatantly false
>Their innovations have been what other RPG series have done years ago
So what? That’s still innovating for the Pokémon series. Going by your logic, Pokémon shouldn’t do the same thing as other JRPGs because it’s already been done, and stick to form or try something else. Really glad you don’t own your own gaming studio.
>Praising Game Freak for actually catching up with the industry isn't much
Dumbass, if they try it and don’t get good feedback on it, they won’t think it’s something they should try again. Pokémon’s first open world area with overworld encounters, an interactable environment, with trainers and items scattered about, while also acting as a multiplayer hub to interact with other players, and do raids, IS something worth praising for because it’s something people weren’t expecting GameFreak to do, and do with so much going for it.
Maybe stop acting like everything in the game is awful and notice what’s actually being done well, and instead of assuming everyone is a drone, realize constructive criticism is a thing.
>and there’s too much functional overlap.
you're an idiot if you think gf gives a single half shit about the competitive aspect of the game, especially with how dynamaxing works
Kys Joe, it didn't work on /VP/ and it's not gonna work here.
Please don't use Mei for your shitty bait posts.
To be fair yokai watch 4 battles aren't turn based.
>Pokemon's concept of "innovation" is copying someone else's work with half the effort and then completely dropping that mechanic after a single game for no particularly reason other than laziness
Nice Facebook filename by the way.
>Dumbass, if they try it and don’t get good feedback on it, they won’t think it’s something they should try again.
People've praised GF for tons of shit. Mega Evos were a great concept, shit like pokemon following you as you walked in the overworld was great too, so were seasons and actual post-game content like the battle frontier. But Game Freak removed that shit anyway despite how positive the reception was for the shittiest reasons.
Having ONE (1) "open world" area in an RPG when other RPGs have actual expansive worlds is retarded. Pokemon is a billion dollar franchise, there is 0 excuse for them to not innovate the series on the same level that LoZ did with BoTW. Stop sucking GF's dick for doing the bare minimum, this is the series' first debut on a MAIN HOME CONSOLE and it's just a glorified 3DS game for 20 dollars extra. It's inexcusable, there's no reason to focus on the positives when every gen they dumb shit down further and further and only continue to cut corners with the series. I can guarantee you shit like Dynamaxing will not return in the next gen.
More like 16 thousand, that street light is so detailed that they had to cut another pokemon to fit it in
>s-shut up dude! Game Freak are an indie studio! Their miniscule "innovations" more than justify all the shit they've cut out!
The definition of SOUL
Megas and Z-Moves were removed because Game Freak saw them only as novelties to keep things fresh instead of improvements to the formula. They were nice balancing tools, though they didn't do as much as them as they could have.
Perhaps I did misunderstand because you were merely talking about "innovations" instead of substantial improvements that evolve the formula.
And non grid based movement is like something that they already did since SNES days. Shows how far behind Pokemon is in comparison to other RPGs.
lets go eevee and pikachu looked much better than this
You say it is because of a limited scope but you do realize that Game freak hasn't made a single new animation in 6 years right? It's all copied and pasted from X and Y.
The fact the chinks even made any animation at all shits all over Game freak.
What PS1 game is this?
reported for rape
>people are still going to buy this shit despite Gamefreak cutting corners at every possible place they can
That's a yikes from me, dawg
>but it's still going to be a fun game
Based on what?
>Megas and Z-Moves were removed because Game Freak saw them only as novelties to keep things fresh instead of improvements to the formula. They were nice balancing tools, though they didn't do as much as them as they could have.
I don't understand why they stopped supporting megas for the shitty Z moves in gen 7. It was a great concept and if they actually just polished it up and continued using it it'd have easily done a fuck ton to make previously unviable pokemon actually useful.
This gigantomax shit is the dumbest shit too, why give a new dumbass form for a pokemon specifically for dynamaxing when it's not going to be in the next gen? Why not just make those designs actual evolutions?
>it's ok for the single biggest media franchise in the world to just now catch up with the indusry standard, and not even do it well
How dare anyone expect better, really?
The mind of a drone is a weird thing to behold
Megas and Z-Moves were removed because Dynamaxing is a combination of the two while also making the Pokémon bigger. GameFreak have said several times the whole concept of Dynamaxing was thought up based on the fact that the Pokémon games are going to be played on TVs now, so the scale of the games went up. Therefore, the two gimmicks were combined, made bigger, and boom you got your new gimmick.
>people pretending pokémon games haven't always done the absolute bare minimum
People always had lower expectations for handheld games. The switch isn't just a handheld though.
>Pokémon’s first open world area
?
>Megas and Z-Moves
>nice balancing tools
Nice joke.
>not do it well
>can’t even find a reason for why it isn’t done well
>have megas
>pokemon changes form
>remove megas
>add gigantmaxing or whatever it's called
>pokemon changes form
>it's totally different I swear
DUDE SHUT UP HOLY SHIT
Game Freak are a small studio with a small working team, stop expecting so much from them! Stop being such an entitled, toxic gamer!
But it's an even shitter gimmick since you can use it on almost all pokemon, including the actual good ones. All it is is a straight-up upgrade, at least Megas made old and unviable pokemon actually have a chance to shine in the meta, dynamax only lasts 3 turns and it's a straight-up upgrade. There's very little about it in terms of tactics
Z moves are retarded but Megas actually did something new and made previously unusable pokemon actually viable for teams. It needed some balancing but GF suck shit at that too
Not an excuse
We now gf recycled move sets from previous games
They have money and employees enought to make something better
>Literally scaling up the model is now a new gimmick
How can normies suck up this shit with a smile on their face? This is the most low effort garbage Ive ever seen in a main entry to a big franchise
Someone already told you why and you conveniently stopped replying.
The "open world" camera shit you were praising doesn't even look good. The environment has N64-tier texturing and instead of actually having pokemon naturally be in the environments they pop-up out of the ground. The reasons are all over the wall you blind shill.
Dragon Quest did it first
Dynamaxed pokemon don't even have new animations, they're just the base animations slowed down too
The one thing I really want from pokemon is for the multiplayer battles to be somehow integrated into the endgame. Like maybe have a place like battle frontier except it's pvp. Have some type of ranking system, maybe exclusive items like clothing etc. I really enjoy the loop of breeding perfect pokemon and setting them up for pvp and battling.
Hahahaha what the fuck is wrong with Nintendo fans
>Dynamaxing was thought up based on the fact that the Pokémon games are going to be played on TVs now, so the scale of the games went up.
This is such dumb, child like logic.
*gamefreak shills
Everyone is ridiculing this shit nigga
They just want to play games regardless of quality, Switch is lacking games user...
Did they seriously remove megas? Didn't they use megas as a 'patch' to make certain Pokemon useable, like Beedrill and Mawhile? And they are just undoing it?
And it literally took them 3 generations of games, while other franchises pulled it off in one
No more megas for you. For "balancing" reasons. Since now every Pokemon can Dynammax with few having access to special g-Moves. Totally balanced I guarantee it.
Guess who won't be in Sword and Shield!
give a link then
They remove megas and replace them with dynamaxing (size and powers up pokemon, even ones that haven't evolve yet), yes. The reason is to balance the gameplay, they said.
>But Game Freak removed that shit anyway despite how positive the reception was for the shittiest reasons.
And yet everything but following Pokémon is back. Fancy that. Like user said Megas and Z-Moves were made into one with a 3-turn limit placed, so strategy is even more key. You are just buttmad your Mega waifumon isn’t back in full form.
>ONE (1) "open world" area in an RPG when other RPGs have actual expansive worlds is retarded.
Yeah when you put it that way, that is retarded. Too bad that one (1) area is split into multiple different areas and biomes with different landmarks, weather patterns, and Pokémon to be found, right?
>innovate the series on the same level that LoZ did with BoTW
Yet they are and you are literally saying “no that’s not enough”. BoTW changed up the combat, Pokémon changed the battle system. BoTW did open world and so did Pokémon. BotW introduced cooking, so did Pokémon. BotW introduced customization, Pokémon already had customization which has also been upgraded in these games. BotW has mini bosses in the overworld, Pokémon has raid battles. Do I need to go on?
You spend the rest of the post talking about sucking GF’s dick again. Seems like the only way you can counter someone’s argument is by calling them a shill. Sad.
pokemon is not supposed to look like this
is better with pixelated art. now is so difficult to animate the pokemons that they all look like plastic toys
>stolen fanarts
>also stolen pokemon models from some pokemon arcades nobody know or care
What do I expect, really.
>meh
Back to the womb with you
A bigger pokemon can't distract from the lack of content. It is like a restaurant offering a giant soup bowl, but you only get the bowl and none of the soup.
>Ferrothorn
>Toxapex
>Incoming Aegislash
>Dynamaxing brings rain for Pelliper and stealth rock to cripple Charizard
>Switch is lacking games user...
idk man, the new FE and Astral Chain seem head and shoulders above the new pokemon in terms of quality
I feel like such an idiot, I just realized a day or two ago all the gym leaders are wearing different variations of the same jerseys
Can't you only have a Dynammax or a Gigantomax in one battle though? I assume the Giganto guys will just be better.
>unironically thinking that SW/SH has innovated the series on the level of BoTW
The absolute state of GFshills
>GameFreak have said several times the whole concept of Dynamaxing was thought up based on the fact that the Pokémon games are going to be played on TVs now, so the scale of the games went up.
That's how a 6 year old thinks.
I'm actually excited to see what a shitstorm this meta will be like
Imagine how many hardcounters to pokemon who got in are gone
They are not scaled up models, Game Freak is using completely different ones when they Dynamax they just look the same. How fucking inefficient can you be? It's just a few rough edges that will stick out, how fucking retarded to waste memory space with that.
>the new FE
Looks unapproachably awful
Bro you need to try harder, how is anyone supposed to argue with you when you blatantly lie?
Three houses looks like shit but it seems like they actually tried with the gameplay this time with the amount of different setups you can do to your characters. Gamefreak doesn't even have that excuse.
how does a chinese bootleg game convey so much more character with its pokemon than the fucking mainline series
>Yet they are and you are literally saying “no that’s not enough”.
This has to be bait, right? You can't actually be saying that SW/SH has innovated Pokemon the same way BoTW did for LoZ, right?
This game came out in 2002.
>buying a game for a character
>not even a main character
>a fucking one off character
you're as bad as gachafags don't buy this piece of shit you can't even romance her you fucking tard
>Game Freak is using completely different ones when they Dynamax they just look the same.
Come on, for a claim such as that, we need harder evidence, because that would be something that would really change everything
Food analogies. Like clockwork.
>Masuda brings Landorus in
>/vp/ explodes
graphically it looks meh. Gameplay-wise and story-wise it looks like it'll be the best FE game in general. i'd highly recommend watching the new overview video and the E3 trailer, I wasn't sold on the game at all until those
yeah Three Houses actually seems like it's going to deliver on what Fates should've from the start. Also according to the creator each house'll take around 200 hours to fully complete. Probably an exaggeration but still seems like a pretty good game so far
This logic seems backwards.
I can't think of any examples at the moment, but aren't there multiple games that used the dual screens to display tall/giant entities in various games, since the two screens allowed the display of an aspect ratio you can't get with a TV screen?
Some rumors say that certain megamons, like mega mawile, heracross, pinsir and houndoom will be nerfed and become normal evolutions.
>lists how
>b-b-but no
Get fucked.
S M A L L I N D I E S T U D I O
New Jet Set Radio when?
Pokemon is finally starting to look like the sort or RPG that was commonplace on consoles when the original Pokemon game came out, which was a game I retreated to in order to escape the awful drudgery of 1998 era RPGs in the first place.
It's a step down honestly
Nothing in that post was a lie, come on user, do better. If you don’t have an argument, just don’t reply.
what about 3rd stagers
I'd like to apologize to Game Freak on the behalf of all gamers
you have to have a pair of functioning eyes to be able to see that BoTW and SW/SH are on entirely different levels. BoTW revolutionized LoZ all over again by trying something completely different with the series and it succeeded heavily. SW/SH is literally just a prettier looking 3DS pokemon game. This isn't an exaggeration, you are braindead if you think the two games are comparable even slightly.
>Yet they are
How much does Masuda pay you drones to make comments this stupid? Even normies can recognize SW/SH is the same pokemon game as the last 2 gens.
They give a shit about what they do? Which is weird since I'm used to the majority of chinks just shitting out one shit fake after the other.
Like I said, if you don’t have an argument, stop replying.
Why not explain how then? Because it seems like you can’t. I already listed how they’ve been innovating and introducing mechanics on the same level. If you can do better, go for it.
I don't seriously reply to lazy trolling, I'm trying to teach you how to bait better because this is getting pretty sad. Notice how despite writing 3 paragraphs you only got a few insults because everybody saw through your bullshit.
Your arguments consist of hyperbole and grasping at straws, literally none of your points hold up against the argument that GF have the reins to a billion-dollar franchise and are choosing to phone in games that are "just okay" in terms of innovations when the RPG medium as a whole has been receiving wide innovations more and more with each year. You're a drone. Everyone sees you as one.
Ok, here's an argument for you, faggot. The cheap as shit animations. You think that's something worth bragging about?
A fucking phone game has more soul than gen 6, 7 and now gen 8. This is embarrassing.
So instead of offering an argument, you decide to bait. Completely ousting your argument as nothing but misinformed garbage. Thanks for wasting my time.
>Pokémon changed the battle system
no different than adding the last few gens of gimmicks
>BoTW did open world and so did Pokémon
Depends on how well it's done. Knowing them, shit probably will be gated more than BOTW
Spinoffs don't count
>twitter.com
>Allegedly Dynamaxing requires separate models for quality purposes as well
>Every single grass type starter upto this point didnt make it in because pikachu just HAD to have a new model the size of a skyscraper that looks absolutely the same as regular pikachu
We need another Tarrant to pay GF a visit
Here you go:
It's about catching all the Pokemons, which you cannot do in any games because of event mons, version exclusive, evolution requiring trading or simply Pokemons skipping a generation. Transferring Pokemons between games mitigated that. Now a large percentage of Pokemons were cut from a mainline game, being unable to be transferred, in the name of better graphics and animations.
Agreed since they were done by people that actually cared about the series
Why not, it was made far years ago than SW/SH perhaps something troubles you?
It'll be the same milquetoast mainline game as always
Write something that makes sense please.
>this pure level of delusion
S O U L
Also, I didn't know Hitmonchan has such nice legs.
How do you reason with people that have basically been playing the same game for over two decades?
They were absorbed by Gamefreak after PBR.
It's honestly absurd.
>Since Bayonetta is going to be on a smaller screen with the Switch, we gave her the ability to shrink so she could fit onto the screen
what kind of fucking willy wonka logic is this
>Charizard, Meowth, Pikachu, F.Duck, and Lapras will receive new form
KANTOOO
Good thing they’re not spin-offs, then, but side games
BUT user
IT'S A COMPLETELY NEW GAME NOW
YOU CAN MOVE THE CAMERA IN ONE AREA OUT OF THE ENTIRE GAME TO SEE POKEMON POP-OUT OF THE GROUND
STOP BEING TOXIC
>Your arguments consist of hyperbole and grasping at straws
Elaborate
You mean the animations that have been used since PokeDex 3D for XY, ORAS, SM, USUM, Ga Ole, Tretta, Masters, LGPE, and are finally being updated in SWSH? What do you wanna talk about in regards to them?
Because now you are assuming that I’m okay with their quality, which I’m not. I believe they should’ve been updated at least for the older Pokémon like Blastoise instead of concentrating on just the new ones. However, I do like that the textures have been improved and some Pokémon like Mincinno have different posed rigs entirely.
You can compare it to the Genius Sonority games, but then you fail to realize those reused the animations as well, the Stadium animations at that, just like GF, and the fact that they have more oomph is because of the smaller workload. I don’t excuse GF with the animations but I can certainly see why it’s like that. I care more about how the moves look than how the Pokémon perform them. And so far most of the moves look amazing. You can keep on posting that Double Kick webm though.
Like really, you all are incredibly misinformed and aren’t able to form your own opinions. You can’t see from good to bad, and you’ve moved the goalpost so much when this conversation was originally about innovation, which no one has yet to prove GameFreak have not been doing.
Honestly, you guys are retarded
The animated sprites were so soulful. They all actually had actions and moved around energetically, whereas now we just have pokemon standing in place barely even moving at all.
>charizard & dragonite on the ground & flying only when attacking
That really means alot. What the fuck gamefreak
NARTUOOOOOOOOOO... no wait, that came out wrong.
nigger what the fuck is wrong with you
fan art is free. you don't have to buy this garbage game to enjoy bea
You first.
By pointing out that basically everything they want out of the series isn't in this game
The Turn based gameplay is shit compared to other series like SMT, Octopath, Older FF games, and even DQ now.
The monster designs have become progressively lower in average quality every generation
There's no charm left in the presentation since it's basic as fuck, the monsters don't even have their unique Amie animations
And the story is and has always been weak as fuck, even in Sun and Moon.
There is no value to this series compared to literally every other major JRPG franchise on the market
I need you to beg Masuda to give all the Kantomons new forms and not the others.
>pokefags on twitter: it's only 60 pokemon in the game, of course they've got better animations!
>what about the fact that Game Freak should have access to 20X the resources as this spinoff, and the fact that this spinoff has more interesting mechanics than SwSh
>pokefags: y-y-y-you're going to buy it anyway
post yfw you haven't bought a pokemon game in the 3DS era at all
I don't have the image but apparently they made a separate model for each Lillie used in each area which really ate away at the file size. This also applied to literally every other character that appeared in multiple areas from cutscenes, when they could have just moved over the model. Gamefreak is fucking incompetent.
>He thinks they're updating any of the animations
oh you poor thing
I wish trainer customisation wasn't so meh now.
Considering the amount of varied clothes NPC trainers had over the years, it's kinda sad that XY looked to have the most effort put into it, even if you get stuff like dyes now
HOW THE FUCK
>Greninja looks cooler in a chinkshit mobile game than he has ever looked in a GF title
Something good, you shill
Both of those games had 10/10 openings. The fakeout in GoD was so clever, and the Outskirt Stand immediately set the tone for the Orre region
I don't even think that the model by itself looks good, it's just compared to what GF has shat out that makes it look leagues better.
The soulless recycled flying animation they use for all their flying pokemon is so shit.
>That Greninja animation and the one with Gengar shredding it on a guitar
It's genuinely weird seeing a chinkshit game with actual soul and effort in it
>tfw never bought a single pokemon game ever because vba and desmume
>tfw pokemon games went to shit just after hitting 3ds when I couldnt emulate them anymore and would've actually had a reason to spend money
KEK thanks for the childhood, GF. RIP in peace
Probably because the entire crux of your retarded nonsensical argument is that anything "new" Game Freak halfassedly adds to the games is innovating even if it's something that's been an industry standard for 20 years or something that was already done better by a previous game in the franchise, it's as moronic as saying that a remake doom that just lets you move the camera with a mouse is innovating.
They're updating the VFX user!
>The Turn based gameplay is shit compared to other series like SMT, Octopath, Older FF games, and even DQ now.
Don't shit talk the gameplay, foundation's actually pretty fucking neat for a turn based game (in terms of stuff added up to gen 5, can't really say 6/7 with some stuff being taken out now), though in terms of non-competitive stuff(and that's a different can of worms), only way that the mechanics shine in a singleplayer run are through romhacks, which is really an issue in the end.
gamu very hardo purisu undastando
>Gen4 has following pokemon
>have to wait till gen7 to have them back for one game
>gen8 doesn't have them
>chinkshit manages it on mobile
>that webm
How dare you give personality to the pokemon, get that "quality" out of here! This was a happy place before you showed up with your quality and effort!
Try and make me Joe.
It's already ruined by the fact it's gacha and player is just model of Ash, a big yike from me. I hope nobody here are that stupid enough to try out chinese bootleg, a fucking mobile game out of everything, when they can just move on instead and play better games.
All arguments here are so embarrassing.
I wonder how much time and how many people worked on the Chinese game? Could a team of 100 people or 150 people made a full pokemon game (full national dex supported) with that level of quality to the animations in a reasonable amount of time?
how did they ruin Brave Bird like this. shit actually looked cool before
The thing that annoys me is that USUM had walking animations for all of the pokemon in the game
And I think those were reused for the 151 in LGPE
Hey! The Narutoad isn't running like Boruto's dad!
Ugh! Why would you ever let Dragonite touch down like that, DISGUSTING!
they don't even fucking jiggle or move at all. Are they statues?
Dumbass shill, no one's advocating you play it, but it's objectively got higher quality animations than SW/SH
>Masters is also gacha
And the problem with your logic is that just because other franchises have done it, it’s not innovating when Pokémon does. Breath of the Wild finally being an open world Zelda game was praised as innovating yet games have been open world for literal decades. Stop being retarded. It doesn’t matter if it’s been an industry standard for years, the fact that Pokémon is finally doing it is a good thing you shit for brains.
Z-moves were the worst when it came to this sort of shit
>too many cooks spoil the broth
An age-old adage that holds true to this day
>Waifufags will still gobble this shit up
>It's okay for Masters because they have waifushit and character interactions
Here you go.
You're shitposting but you are right to a degree. It's about the pokemon, but it's not like Gamefreak is doing that aspect right either.
>have done it, it’s not innovating when Pokémon does.
Pretty much, it's just catch up.
>implying
I'm gonna gobble the art up, not the game.
So the same applies to Zelda. Your argument is incredibly flawed.
>too many cooks spoil the broth
Depends on how you manage the team
While that's true in most cases, in the scenario of massively parallel work, say animating and rigging 900 pokemon, you really only need one art director in charge, and a bunch of grunts. If you give him a team of 5 people they'll get X pokemon and moves done in Y time. If you give him a team of 25 people he'll probably get 5X pokemon and moves done in Y time. The guy animating charizard doesn't really need to know what the guy animating greninja is doing. Yes, there might be some shared assets between everyone, especially when it comes to the moves, but pokemon doesn't really need custom animations for every move. Basically they need a few physical attack animations based on what part of their body they're fighting with (claw, kick, whip, etc.), an a couple special animations for either directional attacks or aoe attacks. Maybe their signatures moves could get custom animations as well.
I fear that
>Some time passes
>GF releases a new trailer with new waifus
>Some People forget the previous controversies
No it doesn't though, Zelda innovated by not only being open world and taking the series in a new direction but also being an open world game filled to the brim with actual shit you could interact with, leading to hundreds of unique outcomes to scenarios based on the freedom the game gives you with its physics engine.
Pokemon SW/SH has done jack shit in comparison to innovate the series, you're not convincing anyone at all with your argument.
Pokemon was always just a standard DQ-esque rpg except for the monster trading/battling from its inception. And then it literally never meaningfully innovated outside of that since then. All the games have been simply "it looks better than the last". To suddenly care with this game while you praise the others is fucking stupid.
Why does it have to look like a ps2 game in 2019?
Well, it slightly did happen with the most recent trailer
>Duuuude why the fuck are you expecting the FIRST MAINLINE HOME CONSOLE ENTRY IN THE FRANCHISE to innovate and do something different to actually make use of the hardware it's on? you're fucking dumb!
Based retard
please understand
>Breath of the Wild finally being an open world Zelda game was praised as innovating
Man I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because I don't really recall praising BotW for being innovative in this entire thread. But I guess if other people (retards) that aren't me said it then it must be true and obviously means I have to agree with them.
>the fact that Pokémon is finally doing it is a good thing you shit for brains.
Who said it wasn't a good thing? Having a controllable camera is a good thing, but it's not something deserving of praise. Do you praise every new PC game that comes out for letting you use your fucking mouse?
The funniest part is that it's only limited to one area so they couldn't even get something so basic right, truly hilarious.
I'm glad that this chinkshit game popped up when it did since it seems to have brought the flack back against Game Freak after that trailer minimized some of it
>update.
You mean downgrading. Compare that to the Sun and moon version of that attack animation and weep.
You can play as best boy.
Console fire emblem: It's fire emblem with better graphics
Console kirby: its kirby with better graphics
Console pokemon: its pokemon with better graphics
Seems sensible to me.
You're valid but also retarded for thinking BoTW wasn't innovative. I don't even like the game since open world isn't my sort of thing but name another open world game that allows you to actually interact with the world on the level BoTW does.
>GF actually released a new trailer after the chink game took wind
What a clown world
>Pokemon SW/SH has done jack shit in comparison to innovate the series, you're not convincing anyone at all with your argument.
>introduces an open world with overworld encounters, cooking, item collection, trainers to battle, raids, an online multiplayer hub, different biomes, and interact-able environmental landmarks, with a free roaming camera to boot
Okay user. Get out of here.
>no more grid based movement
maybe not for the player
Brave Bird actually manages to look worse than on the 3DS? What the hell?
I WANNA FUCK
>Console fire emblem: It's fire emblem with better graphics
but it isn't, though graphics were never the focus of FE to begin with and the gameplay/story looks like it'll do more than enough to make up for it
>console kirby: its kirby with better graphics
And was criticized a fuck ton for simply being that
>console pokemon: its pokemon with better graphics
Except it isn't, it looks like a 3DS game emulated on Citra. The texturing is awful, especially in the "open world" area with N64-era trees and grass.
No one would be shitting on pokemon for how it looks if Masuda didn't say they cut half the dex to focus on making the game look beautiful and to make the animations excellent. Both of which are blatant lies
Did you just join this thread or are you being retarded on purpose?
They release a new trailer on the same day japanese pre-order open for pokemon sword and shield. I doubt they knew about chinese knockoff.
Yeah you are fucking dumb. Why are you expecting that? Has pokemon ever fucking done it before? NO!
Why the fuck are you captitipalzing first mainline home console entry? It's fucking coming out with the Switch Lite dumb nigger. Maybe you're just a fucking retard for considering the Switch a home console, when it's not better than a fucking psp with a tv out port.
Point me to the law that pokemon is violating by not innovation on it's first "home console" release? Because if there's no law, you simply are a dumb fuck for expecting a series that has never innovated before to suddenly innovate.
>open world with overworld encounters
A single area in the game having free-camera is not "open world" you fucking retard. All of the shit you described aside from raids has been done before by different RPG's.
>overworld encounters
LGPE did that too and the game handles it the exact same way: having pokemon pop out from the ground. Imagine an actual open-world pokemon game with actual environments like caves, forests, deserts etc that had pokemon actually living in them instead of just popping in unnaturally
>You mean downgrading
The hell did you think I meant when I posted that gif, it's obviously a downgrade
It gets better and better.
nah, I'll just freely play masters
>open world
>free roaming camera
I'll accept your concession.
>Yeah you are fucking dumb. Why are you expecting that? Has pokemon ever fucking done it before? NO!
That's why everyone's bitching you absolute mongoloid. Pokemon is the most valuable franchise in the world in terms of the money it makes, people WANT a game worth those sorts of production values. Just because you're fine having GF shit down your throat for years doesn't mean everyone else is.
>why are you capitalizing first mainline home console entry
Because it's the first time the series has ever had the opportunity to have a mainline game on hardware far more powerful than the DS/3DS-
>It's fucking coming out with the Switch Lite dumb nigger. Maybe you're just a fucking retard for considering the Switch a home console, when it's not better than a fucking psp with a tv out port.
Oh nevermind, you're actually braindead.
>Point me to the law that pokemon is violating by not innovation on it's first "home console" release? Because if there's no law, you simply are a dumb fuck for expecting a series that has never innovated before to suddenly innovate.
That's right, lap it up shill, make sure you buy the double-pack too so daddy Masuda can be thankful he has drones like you to support the series for doing nothing but cut corners
These prove you wrong and I'm not a graphicwhore.
You are pathetic if you continue this. Go outside & meet a REAL one that you can interact with.
That's a bit less pathetic,yeah.
And? Can't they just reach their vault, take most Battle Revolution animations & bring them back + reuse them on similar skeletons?!
Fuck off, Swampert Tube.
Why don't you argue what's actually being argued you stupid fucking retard? Who said you had to be fine with it? I said you're a fucking retard for expecting the game to be different. I never said you had to be fine with it.
Pokemon has always been shit, and you're just as much of a shiteater as the people who buy this game, if you have ever bought a pokemon game before. If you shit on this, but praise and bought other games, then you're just a hypocrite shiteater.
Articulate your points better next time then my dude, I was saying why we DESERVE better, I don't believe for one minute that GF are going to innovate Pokemon or even make a game with passion in it ever again. That's why pokemon needs to be handed to a different studio and Masuda deserves to be sacked.
I haven't bought a pokemon game since gen 5, back when the series actually had some soul left
Fire Emblem's "base monastery you walk around'' is nothing revolutionary that evolves the series, it's just an aesthetic flavor that doesn't change the fact most of the gameplay is still menu surfing and resource management. Have you -seen- the finish and cooking minigame? They can be barely called actual games.
Furthermore:
Link's Awakening, the first console game of the handheld Zelda team, is a fucking gameboy game with HD graphics
Animal Crossing's newest console instalment shows no true revolution compared to its succesful DS and 3DS versions, it's once again more of the game with a gimmick flavor.
And so on, and so on. MARIO and ZELDA are the only games Nintendo ever made true evolutions with when they became stronger-hardware 3D games. Meanwhile? YOSHI still gets full priced 2d platformers. Donkey Kong too even though the franchise has dipped it's toes into big 3D console games before.
It is bullshit to demand Pokemon to make a jump of that sort when it's clearly not being demanded out of any other franchise, and even then it's a lie to claim Pokemon is not making a jump. The worst locations we've seen in SwoShi STILL look more advanced and ambitious than any location in Sun and Moon.
>A single area in the game having free-camera is not "open world" you fucking retard.
So what is it you fucking dumbass? Please tell everyone what this open world area is called? And you keep minimizing it from a perspective as if it’s one small area and not a huge area taking up a large part of the middle portion of the map that they’ve already said you’ll be continuously revisiting because again, it’s one large area split into different ones, with different weather patterns, different biomes, and different Pokémon, trainers, raids, and landmarks and items to find.
>All of the shit you described aside from raids has been done before by different RPG's.
Again, none of that matters. The fact that Pokémon is doing it, and doing it in a way that hasn’t been done in the franchise before, is worthy of praise. Your logic is incredibly flawed and I keep telling you that.
>having pokemon pop out from the ground.
What game have you played where overworld encounters doesn’t involve pop-in? Xenoblade, Zelda, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Ni No Kuni, hell even MARIO and SMASH has enemies just pop into existence, and those aren’t even JRPG’s
>actual environments like caves, forests, deserts etc
Oh, so like the ones that we’ve seen. Got it.
Why is there a giant router in the middle of the city?
Pokemon really stops being impressive when you dive into other RPG series
That's the gym design
Nigger none of what you said justifies shit in the least because unlike the games you listed, Pokemon is the biggest franchise in the world in terms of how much money it makes. Those franchises aren't. Pokemon makes enough money for it to be justified in having a fucking GTA-tier team working on the games and yet they choose not to because Game Freak are hacks and don't want to hire new, actual talented people.
People have been wanting Pokemon to make a huge leap for fucking years too and it's perfectly understandable why, there was so much possibility for SW/SH to be the next huge step in the series, instead it's just a better-looking 3DS game with even less content for 20 bucks extra.
So many arguments here...I'm going to say this. New pokemon games look great after having play 3DS games and never play LGPE, so I'm very much look forward to it. It look larger with improved graphic. No, I don't care about national pokedex, event pokemon kill my hopes of ever completing it so I'm okay with only complete regional pokedex only like I did in Gen 6. I'm liking a mix of overworld and random encounters. I don't mind new gimmicks, it's similar to mega and z-moves that I don't really care and probably won't use that much. I like new pokemon too.
My relative is buying Shield so I will buy Sword in November.
Rest of you, keep bitching or whatever, maybe you will also buy used or pirating Sword and Shield just to get experiences, just move on to better games if you care that much about animations or complex systems.
pretty much.
Still has its own charm.
good lord the more we see of this game the uglier it looks
>Muh new experience
Others games already did that
goddamn this really does look like an early Gamecube title
>no I don't care about national pokedex
Based retard, good idea, pay Game Freak for cutting shit when they have no real reason to other than incompetence. The drones that still support GF are almost as retarded as GF themselves
>What game have you played where overworld encounters doesn’t involve pop-in?
What's the point of making dishonest points like this? Are you incapable of reading or just pretending to be retarded?
There you go with the “lies lies lies” again. Just fuck off user. Honestly. Your argument is flawed to all hell and you are incredibly misinformed. Just stop.
How DARE you call me nigger. My skin is as white as IVORY you... n...nni...nnuuhh....oaf.
Second of all, "makes money" doesn't change anything. Smash Bros sells 15 million but has a smaller scope than Brawl had, Super Mario Odyssey sells 15 million but has the same scope Sunshine had, Animal Crossing will likely sell 10+ million too and still is sticking to the usual scope.
Companies don't look at big money and go "oh man, i can't wait to spend MORE money next time!", they want to keep making money while spend as little as possible, that is a reality of everyone and even if they DIDN'T want it to be a reality it would become one still because investors and so on also love the idea of "wow, our new game for the same budget sold even more!".
SW/SH would NEVER be a big leap, and if it were a big leap you'd be looking at a 6/7 year development cycle like Dragon Quest gets instead of a 3 year cycle. And I'm afraid you will -never- see a world where anyone in Nintendo is fine with forsaking their current 3-year-cycle-for-10-million-copies-minimum formula.
>So what is it you fucking dumbass?
Not something as oxymoronic as "open world area".
black people
So what is it?
This situation just makes you wonder what would've happened if no dex got cut.
I'm sure there would've been a few people still complaining about how the game either removed other gimmicks or look like ass compared to other titles on the platform (because that is true) and anons on here or /vp/ would've, but with most of the anger you see on social media or reddit or with the whole Treehouse dislike bar, would people have eaten this game up completely if they didn't cut pokemon and tried to claim that it was for the reasons that aren't that justifiable?
good for you. Now fuck off
But they might make Ultra Sword/Ultra Shield regardless on how much it seels.
>they both like to collect coins
Sonic has never collected a coin in his life
i do wonder how many people are buying S/S because they actually believe that the entire game will be open world with a free camera
NOOO STOP THIS
HOW COULD SOME CHINKS KNOCK OFF POKEMON BUT DO A BETTER JOB
MODS DELETE THIS FUCKING NOW!!!????!!!
Are you schizophrenic or something? That's not my argument, you are talking to multiple people.
He clearly said pop OUT of the GROUND, not pop IN. Obviously the game is going to have pop in unless they render the entire thing at once, he is complaining about the fact that the pokemon literally come out of the ground which looks ridiculous. They could have easily made them fade in but that would have required someone with taste in the art direction department.
And now you'll stop replying, because despite the fact that you keep telling everybody that their arguments are flawed you don't actually have anything meaningful to say.
yes. that's the sad thing. if they included all pokemon using the same 3ds models and the same animations there would be virtually no outrage. someone on /vp/ linked a poketuber reaction video to the treehouse segment. at first she was super excited and said something along the lines of "I'm definitely getting the double pack", then when masuda said "gamu very hardu, cutting pokemon" she was shocked and upset. she said something like "god this sucks, but I'm still going to buy it"
I'm having a hard time thinking of a worse fanbase.
I wonder if it will have many npc to talk with and not for battling.
Okay but that's all irrelevant because Gamefreak has made billions from pokemon
> A Chinese bootleg is better than the actual release
What a bizarre time line.
Colosseum and XD looked better
That's on them if so. They've been pretty damn clear that the Wild Area is a specific area and not the entire map.
>open world
>mini bosses
>camera control
>customization
>new battle mechanics
>unique cast of characters
>cooking
>camera mode
>subtle piano and bagpipe orchestrated soundtrack
>new take on the gameplay and story formula
Sounds like Breath of the Wild. Yup, I’m buying it.
Why is this SO much better than the new Switch game? How much money and how little work does Gamefreak need? They put none of their profits back into their products, that much is clear.
It has cooking?
Hi /vp/
This just sounds like harmless nitpicking. Instead of the Pokémon popping into existence, you’d rather they fade. That’s just your preference.
I disagree strongly. Very few straight turn based games have nearly as many complexities. SMT for example is a HARDER game, but has less mechanics in its battle system by a reasonable margin. And for a game that's built to consider PvP to at least some degree in Pokemons case, that's absolutely a positive aspect.
original GB/GBC art style looks better
>for old features to come back game freak has to find a way to make them feel new again
This is the most retarded shit ever. Same with the feature creep meme, when is too many features bad?
Yes, you can cook for your Pokémon now.
retards spam
>90 BILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE
90 BILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE
>90 BILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE
90 BILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE
but they don't spam that most of that is merchandise and licensing that goes back into nintendo pockets
Yeah, in the wild area you can build up your tent and play with your pokemon and cook food for it. It's kinda the new pokemon amie part of the ame.
A leak, that has proven correct thus far several times over, mentions that there is a camping mechanic that will most likely be the new Amie/Refresh, and that it includes cooking. We have no idea how it'll work and it's not officially announced so it could be anything. Don't put too much weight on it right now.
A decent chunk of that is still made by the games.
A big, open area. An "open world" implies that I can start at Point A and end up in Point Z, with little to no roadblocks on the games part, where we all know Pokemon will be linear as all hell.
Most likely. Since dex cut angered the loyal (normie) fanbase that love using Pokemon Bank. Masuda's bullshit was just the perfect tipping point that made them pay attention to GF's incompetence.
game freak owns 33% of the pokemon company
33% of 2-3 billion annually flows into game freak whether they make a game or not.
Stop defending Gamefreak they have made billions no matter what they pay nintendo, there is no excuse for this level of laziness, they just know their retard fans will eat whatever shit they shovel them, thats why they rehashed the same 2d formula for 20 years until the sales started to drop.
One of the best Pokemon songs. Up there with Phenac City, New Bark Town (gen 2) and Ecruteak City (gen 2)
>mewtwo will never look again like in gen 1
>like a genetical freak that is about to fuck up your shit
No, I would prefer if the pokemon naturally inhabited the world rather than mindlessly roaming Hyrule field. But if they are just gonna make them walk around like zombies at least they could make it look less retarded.
>as many complexities
How much is PvP and how much actually has a noticeable effect on single-player?
>An "open world" implies that I can start at Point A and end up in Point Z, with little to no roadblocks on the games part
But we saw that was the case. The only roadblock is potential high leveled Pokémon who you can’t catch that will run after you if provoked.
While gen 1 had its charm, it also had a lot of sprites that looked just bad.
This is must be your first pokemon game
>virtual limitless budget
Limitless profits do not translate into a limitless budget, much less limitless time.
Also the games have to coincide with the change in anime and merchandise rotation.
She might like that because she wants to play with the persons special to her like friends/bf to test their teams, build strategy, compete with eachother but generally for having fun, however the underrated pokemons special to them might be cut.
>But we saw that was the case
Oh? So I can skip gyms, go to any city/town and challenge the Legendaries whenever I want? Because that's what an open world would entail.
that would be neat.
Sure you would be wrecked by their levels but at least you could try.
I honestly doubt it will be like that, but it would be a redeeming quality.
Correction: Only ONE map is open where you can control the camera, the rest of the game is 100% linear and with tight routes and you can't control the map in them. This game isn't open world, it has an open area.
The new battle mechanic is literally Mega Evolution and Z-Moves combined, nothing else has changed.
If you think this game is going to be anything like BotW for the Zelda franchise, then you seriously don't know anything about Game Freak or Pokémon games.
CUNNY
Weather, hazards, terrain, Trick Room etc. all have meaningful impact on PvP. After that you get into purposefully situational mechanics like sound-based attacks, weight, states (grounded vs airborne etc.), there's legitimately too many of these to list, but these all can have impact in PvP absolutely. Abilities further that interaction by being so varied in what they interact with.
"Impact" in single player is debatable. Drizzle Pelliper is 10x better than normal Pelliper even to a casual player for example. But Single player could be beaten by someone literally spamming one move if they used recovery items, so it's hard to say. I would say weather at the very least has a notable impact either way though.
It’s impressive how everyone knows the gameplay hasn’t changed at all without seeing anything.
>Uh but Pokemon still plays like Pokémon so it’s exactly the same xD
Pokemon fans are generally like that.
I'll probably end up buying it too since I love Pokemon and don't care about the dex cut. But I still hate Game Freak's lies. Help.
>the rest of the game is 100% linear
This isn’t true. We’ve seen all the major cities are open with multiple areas to explore. Maybe the routes, but we’ve only seen like 3 routes anyway, and one of them, being the starting, was pretty open for how first routes usually are.
That's not what open world means. Open world doesn't mean "you can do literally anything you want in any order". You can't do the end game story missions in GTA immediately. Are you saying GTA isn't open world?
Open world is defined as a player being given freedom to explore the world, which has an open design involving (typically) one large, singular world. In some cases it can be disjointed seperated areas but typically in these cases it needs to maintain an open design in each area.
The Wild Area is open design but as Sword and Shield do not use that type of world design for the entire (or to be pedantic, super majority of it) game world, it is not an "open world game".
Is she gonna say it?
Millions of copies per version is still a fuckton, their are low budget games with better quality than mainline Pokemon
user it's 2019, why do you act like it's 2003?
Pokken and Let's Go both look better in terms of visuals, but otherwise sure.
Play other games around release.
Replay prior entries.
Get it used.
Hack your switch and pirate it.
So many ways.
Ironically gen 1 is the one with the most open world since after gym 3 you can decide which ones of the next 4 you want to tackle first.
What the hell
this game is the ultimate (You) farmer
literally just say you're buying it or you don't care about the changes and you get at least 4 assblasted replies frothing at the mouth
what a gift
Sauce, bro.
incredible
>post yfw you haven't bought a pokemon game in the 3DS era at all
It's one of the biggest bullets I've ever dodged
Pokemon ended after DS for all I care
A DS game legit looks better
waifufags are this weak. sad
at least they have Ash in it.
If they went with fixed camera angles and smaller areas they could’ve made the game appear more detailed and not so empty looking.
good 2D > bad 3D
it's always true
Even fucking kaphotics dissproved this shitty thing. how can you still spout this bullshit
People don’t even care what’s true in regard to this game they’re just lashing out because “nooo muh faborite Pokemon”. You would think they said “we’re doing a graphical overhaul of every single Pokemon” from the way people talk about the game.
In my defense, I did mention "with few to no roadblocks on the games end", in the post before that.
Why not just use a part of the brave bird animation? The fuck is wrong with them? Don't they have any kind of QA that should point stupid shit like that out at once?
Disproved what? That there's a new Lillie model for each game? Because that is true. You can check it out for yourself if you get any rom, and use Ohana3DS and Pk3DS. Why they're having so many, if it's incompetence or the file structure of the card requires it for quicker loading, that I don't know. But the models do exist.
>That there's a new Lillie model for each game
Each area, not game.
Because they probably didn’t test this one specific interaction, every Pokémon gets a special and physical animation and it just happens this interaction looks funny.
>That ho-oh animation
Game freak can't compete
Is this ps2 game?
It also has 1/100000000000th the budget and devteam size as mainline pokemon
>two colored women in one game
That's too much to bear.
Why the fuck is Gamefreak doing this?
I swear to god someone in my house will die if more of this appears on my feed from now on
this
Preach it.
>open world
Select areas
>mini bosses
So trainer battles?
>camera control
In those select areas
>customization
Cosmetic
>new battle mechanics
One new battle mechanic that is just a combo of two prior battle mechanics. Done worse.
>unique cast of characters
fight girl Check. Hex maniac Check. female water trainer check. Hot professor's assistant check. Not so unique as you seem to believe.
>cooking
Welcome to ages ago.
>camera mode
Welcome to ages ago
>subtle piano and bagpipe orchestrated soundtrack
and?
>new take on the gameplay and story formula
same take on the same gameplay that has been around since it's inception. A few open-ish areas don't constitute "new" gameplay. Neither does gigantmax or whatever since it's just Z-moves and mega evolution put together but made worse.
Face it. they fucked up. Again.
Have sex
That image sure has got a lot of heart
fucking soul
Doesn't really sound the same without the dusty desert winds or the chugging machinery of the train
the animation is kinda smooth what the fuck
Get better material.
that's just Yea Forums's way of saying "i give up, you win."
I dont know what to say
Pokemon hasn't been good since it crossed over to the 3DS and you can't deny it. BW2 was the last good pokemon game
>Blastoise actually uses his guns
GF is fucking dead
the pokemon drones talk about features and innovation sounds like they haven't played a video game, let alone an RPG, outside of pokemon in decades
IMPOSSIBRU
When is this game out?
Alvin, I bet that kinky bitch is a pro sucking dick whore
fuck I really want to play these again
Simon of course. Jeanette is a beast.
>I've never squeezed out a turd that smelled this nice before
They really couldn't have at least flipped the model when it's coming down?
This looks like X and Y at a higher resolution.
well that's goddamn awful
fpbp
My conspiracy theory is that Nintendo actually pay neets to shitpost here shilling their products and "services"
>Chinese developers have so much potential
>Why do they never use it?
You just answered your own question.
>GameFreak haven’t been innovating for the past few generations
They haven't you dumb fuck. GameFreak still hasn't innovated SHIT. Al these concepts have been done before, and BETTER no less.
What a coincidence.
>Pokemon finally has PS2 level graphics
>GameFreak have said several times the whole concept of Dynamaxing was thought up based on the fact that the Pokémon games are going to be played on TVs now, so the scale of the games went up
Lol they are retarded
A better way of doing that would be to actually have the pokemon at the fucking scale they are SUPPOSED to be, ie. Wailord being a fucking huge nigger.
So.. this is the amazing Nintendo gameplay I've been hearing about..
Simon. You KNOW she can suck a bowling ball through a straw.
imagine a shitty wii spinoff looking better than mainline
Bwahahahaha
How did based NinFisher Price fall so far?