>Things get more interesting in the second half, where Josh examines several of Deadfire's more controversial features, throwing his bosses under the bus a couple of times in the process. These include the five character party (no regrets), the companion relationship system (an overambitious failure), the ship-to-ship combat system (a disaster that was actually cut from the game and then forced back into it as a stretch goal by Obsidian management) and full voice acting (also imposed by management, resulting in what Josh describes as the most stressful period of his entire career).
>That's not to say that the entire talk is about blaming other people. Josh admits that he failed as lead narrative designer, creating a story that couldn't decide whether it was about factions or gods. He admits that he failed to realize that turn-based RPGs were now more popular than real-time-with-pause, and that he didn't take complaints about the game's low difficulty seriously enough during the backer beta. Ultimately, Josh concludes that in the future he should work on a different kind of RPG.
Would you like to explain how that isn't admitting he fucked up?
Oliver Nelson
He still tries to push the blame onto upper management and others
Ethan Scott
Yep.
Adam Barnes
Even just >Josh admits that he failed as lead narrative designer, creating a story that couldn't decide whether it was about factions or gods. He admits that he failed to realize that turn-based RPGs were now more popular than real-time-with-pause, and that he didn't take complaints about the game's low difficulty seriously enough during the backer beta. is a hell of an admission, no?
Andrew Flores
Does he regret gay fish sex being forced on the player?
James Foster
LOL I haven't played this game, why the fuck would you make tis thread OP I don't care.
Hunter Moore
More RPG Codex faggotry
William Hall
This is the guy who bragged on somethingawful about yelling at his employee to be more SJW.
Josiah Rogers
Nope, and that's admission enough that he won't admit he fucked up.
Upper management has been ruining videogames for the last decade. Considering he isn't totally passing the buck and admits to the parts that are his fault I see no reason not to believe him.
Ian Diaz
It's probably the mod certified gay fish spammer, we will probably see some copypasta and imagespam soon. There will be absolutely no discussion in here.
Hmm I was shitposting but that's actually pretty funny.
Kevin Gutierrez
But ship to ship combat was a forced stretch goal from upper management and why would Sawyer give a shit about full voice acting? I'm sorry he's calling you out but maybe if you spent more time thinking about good game design solutions instead of shitposting on Yea Forums he probably wouldn't have said those things
Joshua Gray
That's Ropekid/Sawyer
And there are people on Yea Forums who still believed he was based - those people are nowhere to be found these days.
Considering how many games Obsidian fucked up before and the one thing that remained consistent was Josh Sawyer:
No. That doesn't even begin to describe the problems with the story. It's like doing a shit on the floor then smearing it everywhere with your feet then apologizing for accidentally stepping in poop.
Jack King
have sex
Isaiah Stewart
Full voice acting killed the RPG genre in the west, so I believe it on that alone.
Grayson King
Don't play turn based, it takes too long. There are many encounters that will take half an hour with it.
Jacob Reed
The fact that he thought a shitty CYOA was "good enough to be its own game" (his words) is a sign of mental retardation from Sawyer and his fans
His job was to make it work, he couldn't because he's a fucking failure and a faggot (like his fanboys)
This isn't 2008 where your lies about how you got screwed over by the "ebil debil publisher" were semi plausible: You're just a fuck up, Sawyer.
>play pillars 1 >it's not good, but the eothas part of the lore really excites me for pillars 2 >get some shitty pirate game where eothas is now a retarded brainlet going around in a giant I know a lot of things are disappointing, but Pillars 2 was a legitimate dumpster fire.
Parker Sanders
DivOS2 sucks even more than Deadfire. Absolute boredom.
Colton Lewis
>DivOS2 seemed to handle it well. fucking lol this is the face of gayfishfags
Lincoln Rivera
*boop*
Ethan Davis
Deadfire was so bad that he wants to license the setting to some other desperate devs. PoE universe is dead at this point, right?
Cameron Nelson
I can't believe anyone would think it was good. Literally only the shit about Eothas was interesting and that's already completely fucked. The rest of the gods were generic trash, and the fishman race is horrible. Dragon Age is like at housand times better in every way, and it's not even something special.
Jeremiah Jackson
>Dragon Age is like at housand times better in every way Christ, how bad is this game
Ayden Green
>Dragon Age is like at housand times better in every way
woah buddy. lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
Jason Scott
Oh, you have no idea. Dragon Age has fantasy-England and fantasy-France, but at least they're pretty respectful of religion and other shit most SJW games like Witcher and PoE shit on. Also, Dragon Age dwarves are based, where the ones in PoE are supposed to be Inuits or some shit. They basically tried to copy colonial America but it failed miserably, and the whole point of the first game was that the gods were created by humans, so they immediately dealt with the metaphysics of the setting and threw out anything that could've been worth exploring in the future.
Jack Hernandez
I'm not, and it is. Even Dragon Age 2 has a much better story and world than either Pillars game. And DA:O is objectively the best game BioWare has ever made. Characters aren't even worth discussing, Pillars has none that are even remotely interesting.
Joseph Howard
None of that sounds undesirable. I don't care about the politics of a game so long as it's explored interestingly. "Our dwarves are actually just inuit, aren't we so unique" isn't a good sign, but it's not somehow a bad sign either.
Brody Stewart
>And DA:O is objectively the best game BioWare has ever made Welp, this explains everything.
Andrew Gomez
Interesting talk
Samuel Torres
the world building was great in origins but it went to complete shit by inquisition.
Levi Evans
poe 1 wasnt good either. so incredibly boring and overburdened with huge masses of text.
why didnt they just copy bg2 or planescape torment? thats all i ever wanted of the game.
Blake Davis
Alright, user, do i need to add that the only dwarf character in your party is a STRONK WAHMEN that tells you how she left her husband and baby at home to do JUSTICE!!! ? I mean, it's cringy as fuck. Avellone wrote 2 characters and those are the only ones that aren't exceptionally bad, but he is cringy in his own edgelord way. By comparison, Dragon Age's characters have an actual personality and aren't dogshit cardboard cutouts meant to refer to some particular ethnicity or political idea. I know it's popular to hate Dragon Age on this board, and I'll be the first to admit they have made some retarded decisions with that franchise, but Pillars is so much worse in every way it's not even funny. >I don't care about the politics of a game so long as it's explored interestingly. RELIGION BAD SECULARISM GOOD Is not exploring something in an interesting way. When every religious character you come across is a caricature that does evil, that can't be good.
Blake Nelson
dude anal beads and cock rings lmao
Samuel Perry
I guess I should've said nu-BioWare. I hope you aren't about to argue KotOR or JE are better than DA:O. That's just false. Either argument your position or stop shitposting.
Zachary Murphy
Are you sure roof on your house does not have amounts of asbestos and lead several magnitudes over the allowed level?
Thomas Nelson
>le funny reply instead of a defence Tell me how it's bad, nigger, I'll be waiting. PoE is unironically one of the worst settings ever, and I'm counting 2000s eurotrash RPGs.
Jeremiah Campbell
Grieving Mother is a masturbatory fanfiction of Avellone's deep seated resentment of his whore of a mother What a useless fucking companion holy shit
Ethan Taylor
I can't believe people still worship Avellone. That "cool kids' philosopher" qutoe about Shapiro applies 200% to Avellone. The guy is a complete fucking hack, yet people think he's a genius because they've never read actual philosophy in their life. Worse still, he LOVES writing that railroads you in a certain way. I will NEVER not get triggered by that scene in KotOR II when, after giving money to some homeless fag on Nar Shaddaa, you see him get stabbed and killed so some other guy can steal his money, followed by Kreia telling you how even good actions have bad consequences. He is REDDIT incarnate.
redpill me on Mask of the Betrayer is it more post-constructional anit-fun bullshit or will I actually have a rich RPG experience
Samuel Hernandez
DA was another "your choices MATTER (they don't)" high budget RPGs that got worse with every iteration. >It literally started that button=awesome meme >ditched half of PC friendly features it had in 1 >MUH RACISM is constant plot point >also has its share of STRONK WOMEN and tumblr self inserts >that fucking elf assassin that just can't stop not mentioning how gay he is >DLC advert in fucking party camp >"the bad guys are coming!" as uniting plot changes up villains and ultimately ends up vague and disjointed as fuck
Colton King
It's no Grimoire, that's for sure.
Nolan Anderson
Sad
Blake Jones
>MUH RACISM is constant plot point It is in literally every RPG made in the last 20 years, especially in Witcher and PoE, far more than is in Dragon Age. This is how you know you're a seething retard instead of anyone with critical thought that's played all the games. >also has its share of STRONK WOMEN and tumblr self inserts What is Witcher 3? >that fucking elf assassin that just can't stop not mentioning how gay he is Zevran is based, you fucking philistine. Also, it's amazing how you didn't notice that we were talking about lore, yet all of your complaints are totally unrelated to lore.
