How did this kid survive for 200 years without any food or water? How did he not go insane from sheer loneliness...

If smelling your own flesh rotting doesn't drive you nuts then shit ain't nothin'.

>FNV when one of the characters told us food is just a habit
wasn't that the faggot in the repconn basment that was just saying the ghouls don't need MUCH to survive? which at least implies they need something more than the literal nothing you'd get inside a fucking sealed fridge?

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>forgets that an entire cat race exists that does nothing but lies
>forgetting M'aiq the Liar
>who has been in every ES game since Oblivion
You fucking for real right now?

he ate his own shit over and over until there was no shit left, keeping him alive and preventing him from sitting in a pile of his own shit

I'm surprised that didn't get more backlash.

Better question is how the hell did he remain sane

t. Pete Hines

Except I wasn't defending them silly goose

Doesn't count, he was only buried for a short time.

I'm talking about ghoul from Dead Money DLC
Also in F4 we've got
>{Ticking off the reasons ghouls are good workers. / Conspiratorial} Ghouls are immune to radiation, don't age, and don't need to eat.

There's no logic to it, and the Fallout universe is completely devoid of a consistent and cohesive, in-universe system of logic that I don't know why you even would care.
Obviously, the point was to make a reference to that Indiana Jones 4 scene where Indy survives a nuke in a refrigerator that's lead lined, and of course it's ridiculous, and that't the only reason why it exists. The writers probably didn't think about it any deeper than that.

Ghouls Hibernate.

>Short time
He was buried for 3 months. That ain't short.

When compared to 2400 months it is.

It got a shitload of backlash - here
NORMIES don't care

Just played through FO4 recently. Exploration and crafting shit is fun, but holy fuck the main story is atrocious.
Here's a plothole: how is Kellogg not dead by the time we exit the cryogenic pod? He picked shaun when he was a little kid, and still looks the same as he was for 60 fucking years, when Shaun is an old man.

I thought kellog was a synth

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The lore on it was fine, they can survive purely off of radiation.

Nah, there's a whole (pretty cool) sequence where we enter his memories. He has a kid and wife, looks younger in one of them too.

We know, trolls keep posting about this though because they're retarded.
It's not a plothole at all, it's explained to you. Institute has been upgrading his body to keep him in their service.

Yeah but when you kill him you pull out a synth implant that has those memories in it

>Here's a plothole: how is Kellogg not dead by the time we exit the cryogenic pod? He picked shaun when he was a little kid, and still looks the same as he was for 60 fucking years, when Shaun is an old man.

Father VERY briefly mentions it if you manage to pick the 'right' interactions with him, but long story short:
-Kellogg was given cybernetic enhancements to artificially lengthen his lifespan as well as make him more durable, more resilient, etc.. Remember when you killed Kellogg and you could harvest a bunch of tech from his dead body? He was full of enhancements.

A bigger plot hole is how could they have not cured Father's cancer despite all the technology available to them?

kellog is a cyborg

a friend that is a huge bethdrone gifted me this game on release and I have never played it
can you go full psycho mode and kill kids?
or are they invulnerable like if Fagout 3?

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>Steal ghouls waterchip in 1
>Don't fix their pumps afterwards
When you come back sometime later, they're all dead.

They use the fucking Fallout wiki to "fact check" their lore if they even bother to. A fan made public wiki.

Feces are actually composed of more dead bacteria than actual food waste. So yes he still would have taken shits. There is a supposed story of a 400 lb man not eating food for a year and he still had to shit every now and then.

>can you go full psycho mode and kill kids?
>or are they invulnerable like if Fagout 3?
With mods, yes

That's fucking wild

Retcon, heard about it?

WHERE IS THE REALISM IN MY POST-APOCALYPTIC NUCLEAR MONSTER GAME??

Isn't that rather the point?

Because bandits were accepting water for sparing their lives, without the water they got murdered.

Just in general with the overall timeline of the game, they shouldn't have made it nearly 200 years since the bombs dropped, because nothing ingame makes it look it 200 years have passed.
Between 50-100 years should have sufficed and we wouldn't have needed to suspend our disbelief.

Kellogg had a brain implant, but he wasn't a Synth.
This is the problem with Synths: they're literally just genetically engineered and cultivated clones with a brain implant to control them. Kellogg with all of his enhancements has more metal in him than the average Synth.

The only fun part about the game is modding. And even that is kind of a fucking pain.

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sounds like I will never even bother installing this piece of shit then

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You're not missing much

>BUT COMPARISON

face it first fallout is shit

And where does your expert opinion on post nuclear society come from exactly?

And then you travel for a few minutes and find his parents still alive in the same house and they're a happy family again. Why not just make him a human who recently hid in the fridge from the slavers and got stuck?

>MUH SHIT
Not an argument

You never had a argument in the first place, you excused that cause MUH THAT THING IS WORSE THO

Why not just make the game before the nukes fell and you're just a paper delivery man?

The dead cells and mucus of your GI tract also end up in your shit. The size of your shit is often due to the water in the food you eat as opposed to the actual food waste matter

How is he even stuck there in the first place? It's a refrigerator, not a safe. Why couldn't he open it from inside?

The suspension of disbelief needed for three months compared to 2400 months is stark in contrast, at least in the context of Fallout's quasi-realistic way of handling its universe. Also
>meme arrowing

The fact that he doubled down on that bullshit AFTER being proven wrong is infuriating

He was blessed by Todd Almighty

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The best part of 4 is that you can make drugs.

Being able to make Jet relatively easy and getting high the whole game is great.

>A bigger plot hole is how could they have not cured Father's cancer despite all the technology available to them?
Or put his mind in a synth body like so many others?

>guiz fallout 76 is good cause in comparison to bubsy 3D and Superman 64 its way better haha!

Nice logic retard

>you're retarded for comparing two scenarios that were brought up to be compared

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They think synths are lesser creatures to humans.

Wouldn't putting their leader's mind into a synth prove such a notion wrong?

I don't think they want that at all.

Lore has nothing to do with it. He would have gone insane after a few weeks, let alone two fucking centuries. Maybe his body could have lived on radiation all that time, but his mind would be fucked.

Take your awful fetishes back to LoversLab.

And apparently they also didn't know Obsidian already made that joke.

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Who the hell is that mod in your pic supposed to appeal to?

Does that mean drinking a lot of water makes you produce larger shits?

thats an Indiana Jones refrence

Men of culture and top taste.

Did you read the fucking post he's replying to??

That was my point. Obsidian already did the Indy Fridge reference, so Bethesda shouldn't have.

Meh it's a fun quest i never started the quest but read about it. Interesting that people complain about this but not for the quest where they literally pull a plane out of water in new vegas fix it and later bomb the legion. A plane just sitting at the bottom for hundred of years fixed in no time. no rust no anything.

Planes don't go insane from isolation.

You are correct that they don't go insane, but both quests are unrealistic when comparing the time period. And as far as I remember the kid didn't go insane either. From my anecdotal evidence people complained that the kid in the fridge was unrealistic as a quest.

>And as far as I remember the kid didn't go insane either.
He should have. That's the point.

>From my anecdotal evidence people complained that the kid in the fridge was unrealistic as a quest.
Yes, and one of the reasons for the complaints is that there's no way his sanity should be intact. To be honest, that's the biggest problem I have with it. You might be able to make up some bullshit excuse for how he physically survived, but that doesn't change basic human psychology.

Feels good this fuck radio silence after 76 bomb

This quest is a good example of the problem with Bethesda.

"Dude, what if we did a super-funny Indiana Jones reference??" And while doing that they raped a decade worth of lore, for a shitty joke.

They can't even keep their own Fallout 4 lore consistent with the Enclave power armor in Nuka World thing. Now that I'm thinking about it, isn't there a ghoul-only settlement in F4? Why? They apparently don't need to eat or drink. Jesus Christ, Todd.

No, the point of OP thread is that Bethesda fucked up, not about retcon. Retcon is normal for every long lasting franchise and OP would be called fucking sperg if he created thread about "on ho sweaty retcon is bad mkay"

hey is that Indiana Jones?

The kid should be feral.

Yes, ghouls don't "die" like a human would, congrats Bethesda, but they do have the inevitable end of going feral.

Will Nthapple come back once Fallout 5 is announced/released and get rid of that slimy fat fuck Oxhorn?

I don't mind the boy it's how the quest was resolved. The kid's parents were a couple of blocks away from him.

While all these are open ended questions with subjective answers, you can explain them all by simply saying he is insane.

Becoming a ghoul doesnt mean youre just a human that looks spooky. Your body is entirely different. You dont think, move, or function like a human outside of speech and bipedal movement.

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Why can't I be a rapist in Fallout?

That'd be realism; women loses a fight in wasteland? Rape meat. Just sayin'

Yes, but they're also softer and don't damage the intestines as they pass.

This is how you prevent diverticular disease from occurring.

>subtle
>"the liar"

You can with mods.

>tfw you take a massive fucking shit and your toilet can't handle it, so you call the landlord at 4:00 A.M. to deal with it.

Based.

Why play the old games. Nu-devs don't even like video games.

>perfectly sane and reasonable after being a ghoul stuck in a small fridge for 200 years

What a fucking edgelord kys

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Hey, I can be a cannibal if a play a Bosmer in Elder Scrolls, but I can't rape women in Fallout?

Double standard tbqh famalam.

Cavemen

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God, she was probably such a bitch.

Fuck off Pete.

>So instead of saying "everyone needs to be fact checking"
You mean instead of Todd actually doing something instead of playing PUBG on his XBONE with his dumbass kid. What the fuck does Todd even do? He's supposed to be the director but he himself said he didn't even know some of the stuff that was in the game. Compare to Sawyer who knew everything that was in NV, 90% of which coming straight from his head.

You're a retard.

Stop asking me questions about the game I'm supposed to know about.

Todd is the face, he literally does nothing but tell people to add 40 times the detail then go on stage in his stupid fucking jacket.

there's no shit to be seen so you can't assume that

Do you shit when you're starving to death? Does your body eating itself produce shit?

These figurines were sculpted by women. They used themselves as reference. Except the proportions are all wrong because of perspective. They looked at themselves, you see, not at each other. So they looked down and that's what they saw.

The same way the ghoul in Fallout 2 didn't: Nobody is autistic about this shit except when Bethesda does it. Leftists and trannies just hate them.

Literally any company with a fucking brain has internal resources on demand that can be used to fact check.

Westcucks can't into good writing, this is what happens when someone is isolated from society for too long and start to loses his mind:

youtu.be/JmeWHHppD7M
youtu.be/1rLtdiFaV8k

Can't imagine that kind of voice-acting in mediocre Bethesda's games

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>really want to install tiddy and rape mods
>need to take a 4 week correspondence class to even get started
Fuck, it's just not worth. My computer chair isn't even good for a comfy fap anyhow.

ghouls dont need food and water idiot