PC Gaming

Can i install windows 7 on it?

I'm thinking of putting a 3700X to replace my 1600, but my ram is shit, barely reaching 2666mhz, so I dunno if it's a good idea

I want a system that automatically upgrades. Stadia is that system.

For what reason?
Chrome is the most demanding program I use. I bought this amazing PC 5 years ago to play games and I still haven't played anything.

>I want
>Stadia
It'll never be yours.

>only 10
zoom zoom

>buy amd
>can't play destiny 2

LMAO YOOOOOOOOOOO

>Not gonna buy Cyberpunk until the GOTY Edition comes out and gets discounted to 15 bucks because I never buy games more expensive than that
The 1080 ti should cost peanuts by then, you faggots make rash decisions when it comes to this shit.

sounds like an improvement

Reminds me of trying to play minecraft on my 8 year old AMD Athlon64 back when it released. Fuck that was a pain in the ass.

I used to play on a 760 GTX until it broke (after warranty expired, of course).
Now I'm back on the geforce 260 that I upgraded from like 6 years ago. Praying that it doesn't break because I'm broke as fuck.

Surprisingly 98% of the games that I want to play run just fine on the 260.

OH NO NO NO NO NO N O LOOK AT THIS DOOOD

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They'll fix it soon, right?
Who am I kidding they already take months just to adjust some numbers on blatantly broken abilities/gear

>buys DIMMs rated for 3200MHz
>clocked at 1600

bruh

Upgrade to play what games? What new PC games are coming out that are demanding in any way LOL

user...

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Welcome to Toshiba drives, they get damaged but atleast they die slowly instead randomly with no warnings like Seagate HDDs.

a 5.1ghz+ 9700k still beats the 3800x in gaming performance. I was rooting for AMD but it seems like things never change.

>only bother with SFF prebuilds because they pique my interests moreso than building my own
>Best graphics card currently for these are the 1050 ti
How long do I have to wait for the 1650 LP? I don't wanna saw off part of the case.

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Just OC the 3800X too, problem solved.

How long do you think my laptop has until it becomes obsolete?
Also is it bad that temperatures sometimes rise up to 83°C?

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to play what? console ports?
pc gaming is fucking dead

>upgrade
>UI looks like it's from 1884
lmao wintoddler cope

MSI already made a 1650LP.

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>Is it bad
Yes.
>Is it normal?
Yes since this is a HP laptop.

HP is the worst brand when it comes to laptops all around, shitty build quality, cooling, etc.

>8GB Single channel
user get another 4 or 8GB stick for dual channel.

why would you upgrade?

name """"""""one""""""" single game that is worth upgrading for.

video games are trash

Where can I currently buy one? AFAIK they've only been announced with no release date.

Recently? EDF 5 if its like the 4.1 port.

Upgraded over a year ago, don't plan on doing it again for another two years
>i7 8700k @ 4.9Ghz
>RTX 2080
> two 1440p 144Hz monitors

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why pair a $200 cpu with a $1000+ gpu?

>he doesn't know

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That's aesthetic as fuck you zoomer toddler

Because the gpu is probably old and price isn't everything since that cpu BTFOs Intel's $500 cpu

I may be a dumb animeposter. But at least I know what DDR stands for

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lol that can last you for the next 4-6 years. Also if your RTX 2080 has samsung memory you can OC it to +800-1000 easily which is halfway to its super counterpart.

>16-16-16-36
oh no no no

How do you know if it has samsung memory?

>using windows 10

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Nope, waiting for 10900K. If AMD can barely match Intel on 7nm vs 14nm then Intel is going to be the obvious pick once the 10th gen 10nm and 11th gen 7nm start rolling out

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no
works fine on my 8 years old cpu

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Which Linux distribution is best for just browsing the web, listening to music, and watching videos? I wanna get zen 2 but I'll probably have to "upgrade" to win10 and I wanna dual boot so I only have to be in it for video games. I've used mint linux and I was able to get it to look pretty good. I also used ubuntu bundgie i think it was called, which is ubuntu with a certain DE that looked pretty nice but was barely functional. What are some desktop linux distributions that function while also not looking like shit?

>buy the 3700x
>compiling shaders on CEMU is at least 5x faster my old i5 7500

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honestly no need to upgrade for 1080p75 (well, 74 since my monitor wouldn't go to 75)
did a bit of OC on the GPU using xtremetuner, it werks

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using GPUZ

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That'll be like three years from now and by then AMD will have something else up their sleeve.

Also enjoy security flaws

I'm still running an 8350 with a 980 I got via shipping error. 20 GiB of RAm with 4 gigs being from some RAM I got from a thrift store.

>>i7 8700k @ 4.9Ghz
AYYYY LMAO EVEN THE 3600 DABS ON YOUR SHIT

Because the $200 CPU can work perfectly with the overpriced gimmick GPU?

yes i did

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someone answer a boomer who never built a gaming pc a question.

Is it worth it to build a medium-range pc right now (Rx5700 - rtx 2060 super)? I'm asking before the new consoles are coming out next year and I wonder if there's gonna be a leap in technology. Did this happen when ps4 and xbox came out in 2013? Can a medium range pc built in 2012 play everything smooth nowadays? I don't think so, right?

FUCK

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>Rash decisions
>Bought it 2 years ago for $450
>Even rtx 2080 ti is barely better
You make me sick user

bro, I have my ram at 2800 mhz on 1.2 V on my 1500x cpu and that's good enough for me. Going to wait a while before I jump into zen 2 so prices can come down as I don't really need to upgrade yet.

Micron is not bad either, SKHynx is the shitty one.

Yeah but the 3600 wasn't an option when my motherboard got a short and I needed a new one and had to buy a new cpu as well.

No point in upgrading again in less than a year. Not worth it.

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Oh I thought people where saying Micron units where the ones that got fucked

Do you really *need* to have 5 drives?

how wel does CEMu run on the newer ryzens?

Samsung>Micron>Hynix

Don't despair bro Micron isn't that bad. Maybe +500. Hynix is the shittiest of the shit. Those stories you read about the RTX cards catching on fire were all Hynix memory.

Yes, i9 9900K here
Note that I am phone posting

>spend hundreds of dollars and dozens of hours to get maybe 10% more frames in the most ideal case
no thanks

I have a Ryzen 5 2600, why should i bother spending more?

They're small drives.

Imagine falling for AMD in2019 with all the information available to you

>bragging about buying a $200 cpu in a budget mobo
>calling others poor
lmao dude

>Ryzen 5 2600
I'm tempted to get that one as well. Prices are approaching €100 pretty fast.

I know. I just keep some games on them. If they die, they die. I dont care
Bro....
Control, Borderlands 3, Cyberpunk, red dead 2
Cyberpunk
Because it doesnt bottleneck?
Only overpriced $1000 is rtx2080 ti. 1080 ti costs like $500 preowned

exactly, he's so poor he can't afford a budget cpu in a budget mobo

I can find 1080Tis for $300 user.
RTX has always been overpriced, and only the RTX 2070 Super is $500 and still not close to the 1080Ti.

>security flaws
they will fix them in hardware by the 10th gen stuff. 9900K is already not vulnerable to some exploits

what do you mean dozens of hours?

fucking around with various game settings, motherboard drivers, installing new hardware, setting and testing appropriate overclocks, dealing with inevitable bugs, etc.

Alright, say money is not even remotely an issue. Would it still be best to put the boot drive on an SSD or could you get one fuckhueg SSD and put everything on there? Or maybe get two SSDs and separate them between Windows files on one and everything else on the other? Is it better to have a single SSD with lots of storage or multiple smaller?

>my 1060 is Hynix
I mean it's a KFA2 one so it's not a high end western brand or something so I'm not too surprised

1800X and a 1070ti, I'm good for a while.

>AMD

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>Rig is using RX480 with an i5 4690K
Was considering going for a 2060 but I might just get a non blower 5770 instead. I kind of wanted the 2060 for emulation and you need a Nvidia card for that Project Mike Arcade PC thing but those prices.

I've only tested it on Xenoblade X so far it's great, but the game is native 30fps so w/e. I can maintain solid 60fps with the hack now (I couldn't with my old corelet CPU) but that also makes the B prompt during battles twice as fast, so it's kinda pointless.

I really recommend it, compiling shit on RPCS3 is sonic fast too now.

Get one m.2 1tb drive and youll be fine for while. If you want movies, other documwnts etc just get additional hdd. Ssd is important for software

I'm going to buy parts to build a PC this holiday season on black friday.

I still got my i74930k and my rampage iv black edition
gonna wait for one of them to die first

first pc build?

Yep. Im going to use Logical Increments for my build.

have fun. i built mine on black friday too. lots of nice savings

will do
good looking out

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Here are some tips:
Avoid ASRock and Gigabyte motherboards.
Avoid Gigabyte GPUs, AVOID ALL BLOWER GPUs.
Avoid Corsair PSUs, get a EVGA G3 or a Seasonic PSU.
Avoid Seagate HDDs, get a WD Blue HDD.
Avoid Kigston SSDs, get an ADATA, Crucial or Samsung SSD.
All RAM brands are the same, only Micron, SKHynx and Samsung make RAM, everyone else just puts gayming heatsinks on them so go for speeds and ratings.

One huge SSD with a even bigger WD HDD.
There is barely any difference between SATA and NVMe SSDs when it comes to OS and gaming use so you can get something like a 860 EVO (Or the $80 SU800 1TB and a 2-4TB WD Blue if money is indeed a problem).

I have a 3570k and 16 gigs of ddr3 1600 ram. If I don't wanna spend $500, what new Ryzen cpu should I buy?

based advice

ryzen 5 2600

3600X.
but honestly just overclock more and get a better GPU.

>only one PCIe 4 SSD
>no heatsink
Fuck

nope, just get a decent gpu and decent ram, that's it

On Amazon*

i dont think ill need to upgrade for a while if i stick at 1080p 60fps

rtx 2070
r7 2700x
16gb ddr4 ram

I'm still waiting for a Nvidia 1080 to be at a reasonable price. Built my first PC a year and a couple months ago and my graphics card is pretty much low end in comparison to my CPU (i5 7600k)

I also want to upgrade my motherboard because the one I have now doesn't have bluetooth

>i5 2500K
>1080
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Just buy a used 1060 or 1070 if its that bad?

Soon
Waiting for a b450 sale so i can get mobo+3600

I have no reason to at the moment.

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Whats the point? I've had a GTX 1060 i5 7600k for a couple of years now and I can play every new triple A game above 60 fps. Obviously not on ultra but it barely makes a difference anyway

You sound fucking mad. Go get a job.

I upgraded from your mother to your father.

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why pair a $45 case with a $1000+ gpu?

shit I just bought a seagate HDD instead of WD Blue

WHat's wrong with gigabyte mobos?

>not using ray tracing to shitpost on Yea Forums

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I was about to do this when I bought my initial parts but I talked myself out of it because used GPUs sound shady quality wise.

Do you have experience doing it and how do you know if you're getting scammazed or not?

I have a 6600k and man I’ll have to upgrade my motherboard too if I want the new intel or amd

Back they started releasing their Haswell boards (Z97) their quality went to shit, horrible VRM, heatsinks, parts of the boards start dying, etc, all that while having the same prices than other boards.
ASRock has always been shit but atleast they are cheap.
ASUS went for the overpriced Gayming gimmick.
MSI went for the perfect boards shit BIOS way.

You test it, if it works then you keep it, if it doesn't then you just refund it or chargeback.
Cards that used to be expensive were never used for gaming so most EVGA models are good if that worries you.
Just buy a used EVGA/Zotac Mini GTX 1070Ti for something that you will use for a long time.

My old Gigabyte ryzen motherboard has better vrms than some highend motherboards for the same zen1 socket, and it now support ryzen 3000s without any issues. I bought it for 100$
No problems with my Corsair psu as well

do you even REMEMBER what PC gaming was like on a mid tier build in fucking 2009?

jesus fuck you asshole

Fucking yikes lmao

Gigabyte makes a huge amount of shit boards and one good board (Which is usually their most expensive boards) which rarely anyone buys unless its on sale.
For example in X470 only the Gaming 7 was good, all the other boards were shit, including the B450 boards.

Corsair problem is that they dont make PSUs, they rebrand them, and usually they come from the cheapest model from China they can find, and their high end are just 7/10 PSUs or Seasonic rebrands.

eh, ASrock fluctuates between really mediocre and decent. From my experience they're never fantastic but they're never bottom of the barrel crap either

I'll upgrade after next gen consoles' release.

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I hate that i have to buy a new cpu because Jewtel patched hypertrheading
>but it doesn't make difference on gaming
it did,since then i can't play shit without framedrops/stuttering,not even fucking minecraft(non modded)

Use a LTSC windows install then, Intel "patches" are not included in the security updates so you are never affected.

I really wan a 3700X and have the cash too but I'm still on Windows 7 and want to avoid Windows 10 as long as I can

WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I UPGRADE IF I'M STILL PLAYING THE SAME 3 GAMES OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE ALL THE NEW VIDYA IS FUCKING DOGSHIT?

Got a 1070 but im still stuck with my FX-8350

How fucked am i? Will i bottleneck everything?

Got a i7-6700k and 1070ti, I play at 1440p and have no issues with any games I play but should I upgrade?

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for what?

There's literally still no reason to even with ancient mid range computers. I have a nearly 9 year old 2600K with a reference RX 480 in it and I still play almost everything 1080p on high/ultra. I don't care enough to upgrade with how shit most titles are today. Why Would I go with a new Ryzen when AM4 is at the end of it's life cycle and DDR5 support is 2 years out at most? Why would I buy a fourth or fifth refresh of Intel 14nm that's going to need another socket that won't work with 10nm? Why would I bother with the price fixed ans sandbagged video card market right now? Pay extra for incomplete features that work terribly with no card possessing the ability to make it worth while? Why pay a premium price for a mid range card replacement from AMD? In my 30 years of PC gaming and building this feels like the worst possible time to upgrade across the board.

Not him but there is a big difference CPU Wise between old 4 core CPUs and modern ones.
Still there is not much reason to do it unless there is something you need more CPU power for something in specific.

how is this a question? if you dont have any problems then obviously you know the fucking answer?
Stupid anime goat poster

I'm still good with my 1700X clocked at 4.0

I bought it at launch full price and seeing what they go for now is crazy low. I'm not going to do that again. I wait for a sale on 3000 to upgrade.

How shit are we talking? Are you saying I shouldn't future proof my Gaming 3 B350? I was just about to get an R3700 for it. I never had a single issue with it.

I need to upgrade my cpu relatively soon but I want to get a 2nd monitor before that

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Anime website you piece of shit.

jokes on you, i actually love (old) anime

stupid goat poster

If its the mATX version then dont even think about it.
If its the ATX version then its still a bad idea but it should work without dying.

There is a reason people are recommending the B450 Tomahawk and X470 boards if you cant afford a cheap X570.

>people with 6th gen intels want to replace their cpus
>I have an i7-4770
Am I gimping myself with my current cpu? I can still max out almost everything since i have a gtx 1080.

>In my 30 years of PC gaming and building this feels like the worst possible time to upgrade across the board.

You're insane. You don't need to get the latest CPUs you know. The 2000 series is still a great upgrade to a 2600k and they're dirt cheap. DRR4 prices have finally fallen which shows how wrong your statement is because it was easily worse a year ago when they were 2-3x the price than what they are now. The 5700 is 1080 Ti performance for $400 and made Nvidia lower their prices further too. It's a damn good time to buy.

Ryzen 3000 in a B350 board, and if you have watercooling you can hit 140°c which is a big no.

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>If its the mATX version then dont even think about it.
Well fuck me. Can you elaborate a bit?

Are amd CPU's still shit for emulating?

No but i bought Amd stocks because my 6700k is still good enough. But in 3-5 years i am going to upgrade

I don't get readings like this on HW info with a R1600 that pulls 150W. I doubt R3000s are going to be much worse. Other peoples are using the new CPUs right now on it and report fine temps
I don't get it man.

My rig is fine until the next gen consoles hit. No sense in upgrading now, imo.

TLDR, shitty VRM and VRM heatsinks cant handle Ryzen 3000 series.
The B450 Tomahawk is recommended because it has a huge heatsink and decent VRM, all other boards it really depends.

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I'm just asking cause all I'm playing assfaggots atm, I'm just asking if I should wait for newer tech or buy now.

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There is a huge difference between power drawn and power reported, first what motherboards report through software is never exact.
What goes through your VRM != What is your CPU using.

fuck no its not bad

Thats normal for laptops. My laptop used to go up to 90 degrees and i never had any problems with it

that takes about one or two hours if you are not retarded

$400 dollars for 3 year old performance that cost 450-600 that also happens to be clock locked. Please stop being such blatant consumer apologist. The hell would I go with a 2000 series for? It's 20% faster at base clocks and my 2600K has sat at 4.4 ghz

i never even heard of a 8086 k lol

seems to be a special edition but it sounds like something from aliexpress

8086 is what all CPUs have been based on, its the reason why current architectures are called x86 and x86_64.
8086k was just a 50th anniversary edition.

It's like you choose to ignore the last 3 years where GPU and DDR4 prices were sky high. Obviously you weren't keeping track of prices when 1080 Tis were $800+? Comparing stock to OC? Ok. I upgraded from a 4770k to my 1700X and even that was a difference. It sounds like you're just being defensive of your choice not to upgrade when you haven't even used a PC superior than yours.

If you don't feel the upgrade then don't. That's fine and it's not what I'm arguing. If you do want an upgrade then this is a time better than many years prior and saying it's the worst is just objectively wrong.

I saw the mini ITX version of this board having issues with 2700X oc'd with the VRMs throttling, if anything. Not the M ones.
People made VRM rating tests for Zen 2 upgrades and the gygabyte boards are doing ok with mine listed to handle up to a R3950
To be honest I have an hard time believing you.

I would love to "upgrade" soon but this late into my PC's life, I'm looking at building practically an entirely new rig, with few parts being salvaged over. I'll also need either an Adobe CC subscription or new seeds because I lost the installers for my cracked creative software ages ago.

why the fuck PC parts so EXPENSIVE??

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I have a 1050 ti. I'm a budget gamer but it seems to work enough for any major game I play, usually get to play with graphics on high. It feels godlike compared to the 8 year old laptop toasted I played on until a year ago.

Zero reason to

You can buy one and test it yourself, worst case scenario is Vcore VRM dies and all you have to do is get a new board.

Oh and another thing, you claim to have done this for 30 years and you don't even know that DDR5 prices will be sky fucking high at launch. They won't be worth upgrading to for at least a year after. It will still be worth buying DDR4 just like when it launched it was still better to buy DDR3 before stocks became sparse and DDR4 prices likely won't get much lower than they are now.

There's zero reason to get a 1050 Ti over a 570 unless you don't know how to plug in a PCIe connector.

I know about the pricing problems and it's due to price gouging and crypto bullshit. 1080TI was 450-600, I don't regard crypto prices as having any relevance outside Nvidia and AMD trying to continue gouging. No one should be impressed with baby navi's performance or cost for a reference blower that's going to struggle worse than my RX 480. DDR4 was never relevant to me because it has terrible latency that's only just starting to get worked around. I understand DDR5 might be more pricey and that's fine. I have been saving and waiting the entire time and intend on going with 64-128 gigs of ram on my next build. Not trying to be an ass but performance to cost nothing looks great right now.

i like my gigabyte z390 aorus elite. very solid board and has the same vrm on their $250 boards which can handle extreme overclocking on a 9900k. no issues with it whatsoever. been a champ. also my seagate ironwolf 4tb so far has been a fantastic drive. got it to replace my old seagate constellation that i had for five years and only replaced because it was a small 1tb drive.

>I don't regard crypto prices as having any relevance outside Nvidia and AMD trying to continue gouging.

It has every relevance on when there's a good time to buy and the 1080 Ti was $700 just for the blower fyi. Most cards were more than that and it only got worse after crypto.

I did the opposite. Sold my PC for a nice profit. Wait til new consoles come out, build then. Theres literally two games coming out I’m interested in from now til 2021. Gaming industry is in a shit rut this gen.

>also my seagate ironwolf 4tb so far has been a fantastic drive
Well no surprise when its a "enterprise"/"NAS" HDD, it has to be good or it will lose all sales unlike Consumer HDDs.

Look at him and laugh

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Did, you think of this all by yourself? Or are you always such a faggot.

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>amd cpu in any generation

have fun with dropped support and games in 5 years running like shit

fucking morons jesus christ

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Well thankfully crypto is all but dead this time around. BTC is in it's ETF bubble that's going to pop and make a lot of people sad and if and when the gouging starts back up due to it there's going to just be another glut driving prices down in the long term when it comes to RAM which is what's going on right now. I'm comfortable waiting at least another 2-3 years. I mentioned PS5 because it's going to help stir up the PC enthusiast market when they come with 5700 equivalents and finally put some priority on multi core use.

blame the chinese Russian fucks

Im worried about the PC ports though.
With PS5 having a real CPU now instead the ULV APU shit it had before that means games will be way more intensive because lazy devs or indian companies.

>AMD Ryzen
>upgrade

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I have cautious optimism about them finally having a real multi-core CPU available. The hope is things get easier to port and figure out on their end street shitters or not.

>and finally put some priority on multi core use.

That's what people said when PS4 had 8 Jaguar cores. Don't fucking count on it.

Nah, still gotta save up some green. Def going to upgrade though.

Not counting on it but hoping. I know the reality is more than likely the extra cores will only be used so that lil' zoom can stream his games and spotify at the same time and never actually get used.

A CPU with 8 fake cores like Bulldozer had at 1.8GHz out all things.
And not all cores are used for games.

no reason to upgrade when the only good AAA games are console exclusive
everything i want to play i can run at 1080p/144FPS ultra on a 580 and i7 4770

>have so much savings
>still haven't upgraded in 5 years
Might just build a new PC soon just for cyberpunk and Elden ring

I have a GTX 960 with a faulty fan for a while
what's the next upgrade? I thought a about a 1060 but now there are too many numbers I don't know

I just upgraded my rig from 2011 with a 3900x. It's like a night and day difference, shits almost unreal. I was running a 2600k, little guy held up nicely over the years.

no

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>no tsx

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Imagine being so autistic you actually understand what any of that bullshit is.

cringe

you can say that about everything. just like i can say the truth in that the only two hard drives i had fail on me so far have been a wd black 1tb, a wd black 2tb, and a wd blue 500gb.

three* 2 blacks, 1 blue.

Im still running a Ryzen+
And given how the old Mobos that should supposedly support all ryzen ever are just barely keeping up, i dont intend to do a full update before Ryzen 3 / Intel uncucks itself

Yeah man, ofc.

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