Binding of Isaac thread

Fuck The Lost, fuck The Keeper, fuck Ultra Hard, fuck Ultra Greed, and most importantly FUCK Edmund MacMillen.

TBA 2019

You mean Eggmund McMuffin?

>fuck the lost
Dude I literally just said how good he was.
See You shouldn't be getting hit when you obliterate everything with your thousands of devil room items.

So I could play an old version of a mod before it is properly implemented or a mod that I personally don't believe is very polished.
No thanks, there are plenty of other fish in the sea and I'm not NL so I don't have a court order to keep playing this game during it's slow season.
Have fun talking about how OP Ipecac Pyromaniac builds are for the 100th time.

That's the plan after I finish this comment. Don't want to bump a thread that could deny us another pepe or wojak console war.

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good riddance

>Fart baby is dry baby pre-death
What happened?

Pardon me. Worst boss, coming through.

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DRY BABY I DESIRE YOUR TOOLS

DRY BABY SNEAKY AND MEAN SPIDER INSIDE MY DREAMS I THINK I LOVE YOU

I hate mega fatty the most because he has so much fucking hp and will randomly jump at you at the speed of light.

i wish there wasnt so many items in this game

Revelations doesnt even feel like the same game, its like they wanna make a whole other kinda game and they just use isaac as a base

That's why you just install the tool off the steam workshop that tells you what everything does. It's like the most popular workshop item of all time for that game

its not about how many items there are
its about how saturated the pools are

where is new dlc

user, dont you want a 7th item that lets you carry another pill/card/space item/rune/etc

My only gripe is that there's a lot of items that don't count for transformations, like half the babies not working into conjoined, and the simple +1hp up items should feed into the stompy transformation. Other than that I think it's fine, maybe remove the stupid meat cube and bandage ball though

Runes are the worst thing of the game

i sure do like getting 300 on hit effects and not getting any of the items that proc them without damage

Savor that steak~

are there mods to remove items from item pools?

There sure is, its called uninstalling the dlc

>stupid meat cube and bandage ball
You do realize edmund made super meat boy, right?
Plus those items are super good anyway, they deal a lot of damage.

I unironically love Bob's Brain

I finally got 100% :D

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>You do realize edmund made super meat boy, right
No shit, retard. Is that supposed to mean I'm not allowed to hate them?

Mega Fatty early game in Greed Mode is a death sentence.

now do it 2 more times

Me too. It can fuck you over sometimes but the damage is great and you can clear out groups in one shot when it lands.

to be fair the mean cube/bandage ball are some of the better items in the game
personally I'd like if it was one item and it didnt make meatboy though

>remove the stupid meat cube and bandage ball
Why the fuck would you want that? They're both solid items that are easy to find.

I loved the first game a lot but with Rebirth adding stronger bosses and a lot of shitty items to the pool I feel like the usual run leaves you too weak to actually enjoy the game since bosses feel like damage sponges after a while. Does anyone else feel like this too?

What, would you rather have a fucking HP up over something that deals 105 DPS?
Your hate is misplaced.

That's why I reroll the base floor unless the treasure room item includes some form of dmg up, then even if I get shitty drops from there it's at least somewhat tolerable

Yes

Fix pills

Wh-what?
If you'd rather have that than an orbital + huge damage then there's nothing I can do to convince you.

More like a shot speed up and a free card over an offensive and defensive item.

WHEN THE FUCK IS REPENTANCE

fuck walking hosts

Said to be December, probably 2020.
Just play something else.

not touching this game until the dlc comes out, the last time I played was wotl

Hay dude, saw you getting shit luck those last few playthroughs.
Here man, take a freebie

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Is Forgotten the only good thing to be added to the game in the last three years?

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Mega fatty is fucking bullshit. Has an instant hurtbox with that high speed jump. Delirium is also BS with telefrags and hurtboxes that never dissapear.

You could argue mod support but I'm not about to give Nicalis awards for letting other people improve the game.

>mediocre items
So yes, Forgotten is the best thing.

This. Also, it felt too much like gambling.

I like gambling, it just gets a bit dull when there's nothing new to win.

This

Having played other similar Rougelites I can conclude BoI is shit.
The reason being is how the game plays at its core. Issac's mode of attacking and the "slippery" feel of the game makes for a tedious, unenjoyable experience. Most games all I wanted to do was find some weapon that would drastically change how Issac played, such as Brimstone or Technology, to get out of the completely dogshit mode of attack known as the Tear projectile. If I couldn't do that, All I wanted to do was stack attack increasing items as much as possible to make tears closer to one shotting things.

But Mcsteakmond? Oh he just loves to prolong the combat.

Monolith is by far a superior experience. It might have the downside of having its "upgrades" be non-stacking and limited but it makes up for it with the core gameplay of the "little ship" being well tuned to the game. The fact that you can basically beat the game with the default weapon while still enjoying the game is what holds the most weight because trying to beat BoI with a non-upgraded Issac is like masturbating with sandpaper.

*melts Hush and Ultra Greed*

*fucks up my post*

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There's literal daily smash threads. The lack of discussion comes from the lack of Isaac players, nothing else.

You're really gonna say there's nothing to discuss in a randomly generated game when the bing bingers make daily threads for collecting coins? Stop posting.

>beat BoI with a non-upgraded Issac is like masturbating with sandpaper.
It should be?

There are fun ways to do hard and unfun ways to do hard. A major factor one should consider in game design is that you should never make the playing character feel dysfunctional (Unless it's a horror game). You should feel like you're capable and effective but have the difficulty stem from the enemy simply being far stronger than you, rather than make the player character feel just inherently pathetic.

Issac feels useless. Aside form some gay preachy bullshit anyone might come up to justify that, it would still miss the point that it does not make for an enjoyable experience.

>get the game
>play it for a few months
>fun game
>only need to finish like 3 more characters until 100%
>out of fucking nowhere, I decide to cheat despite telling myself I won't many times
>after messing around with debug mode, I realized I fucked up and can't finish the game legitimately
>take a few months break from the game until now
WHY THE FUCK AM I SO RETARDED I WAS SO CLOSE TO FINISHING IT. Now I have to do everything again FUCK

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What did you do in debug mode?
I can't think of anything you couldn't debug your way out of or do legitimately and then set the flag in debug mode.

I think it was those achievements that require you to be fast and get to a certain boss in time. Not only did I unlock those by accident, but since I was a crybaby bitch I cheated my way through greedier mode with some characters. I'm still so fucking mad that I did that

Super armor? heh, nothin personel kid

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Greedier mode sucks ass and basically requires you to reset until you get a good start.
Time based stuff is Boss Rush, Hush and to a lesser extent Delirium(you can just get lucky instead). Not that big a deal honestly. You can just do those requirements again if you feel guilty and pretend their associated items aren't in the pool. I mean with over 500 items you probably aren't even going to see them.
I wouldn't worry about it honestly play the game however you want, it can throw some real bullshit at you at least on PC you can throw some bullshit back at it.
I mean debug mode used to lock you out of achievements, the fact that it doesn't now means you shouldn't feel guilty.

youtube.com/watch?v=fzZsagDLYzM
Greed runs sure can get fuckin silly

youtube.com/watch?v=mhdlLlRMH_c
pump up the jam

The quick jump is avoidable. It's fast, but not fast enough when you pay attention to how he slides towards your direction before jumping. If you notice that then you'll have enough time to get out of the way.

>Greedier mode sucks ass and basically requires you to reset until you get a good start.
This was the thing that drove me to the edge of cheating, I can't believe they looked at greedier mode and thought it was fine. That mode is the definition of bullshit, in fact the 2 DLCs (besides the hush and Ultra Greed being cool bosses) make the game worse with a majority of the new items being horseshit, which causes it so the more you play, the worse it gets.
>I wouldn't worry about it honestly play the game however you want, it can throw some real bullshit at you at least on PC you can throw some bullshit back at it.
That was exactly what I was thinking to myself when I started using debug, I've never seen a more unforgiving slog of a game mode in my life

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based, his gimmick is actually a nice trade.

AND HE IS NOT THAT KEEPER ASSHOLE THAT IS SLOW AS HELL AND FUCK HIS HP TOO

FUCK KEEPER FUCK KEEPER FUCK KEEPER
Highhandedly makes me hate the game. Holy fucking shit what a shit character. Can't even say no skill because half the RNG rooms in this game are fucking bullshit.

I always pick up the brain

LITERALLY THE ONLY THING THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE THE KEEPER MORE ENJOYABLE IS TO HAVE HIM START WITH GREED'S GULLET OR LET HIM HAVE MORE THAN 2 HP BUT NOPE GOTTA CHEW THAT STEAK SLOWLY

*dabs*

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come on now, don't pretend you've never crossdressed with your sister's clothes

His gimmick is so fucking garbage, its even worse when you have to go through hell just to get one shitty character

Isaac would benefit from a custom run like in Dead Cells t b h

the simplest shit of giving him more health with the more coins you have would make him a million times better to play

Yeah, Isaac as a whole is just a bizarre conversation between players and developers.
Edmund was pretty clear in that he doesn't understand why people keep playing it and Nicalis seems to be in a similar position. They seem to think people enjoy how crushingly difficult it is and the less chance of success you have the better the game is. This is pretty obvious in some things like how fucking horribly balanced Greedier mode is or the fact that the Ultra Hard challenge is even a thing.
The actual community on the other hand finds the most appealing part of the game the randomization. Choosing weird combos of things and seeing if your run goes to shit or you steamroll. Isaac is actually piss easy if you just reset til you get the best items and play it safe. That's also boring as fuck.

It's honestly the reason so many people are looking forward to the "final" DLC. It's a quality mod that's being implemented into the game made by a group of fans that clearly knew what was enjoyable in the game. They have free reign over a lot and people hope that means they can improve the game as a whole from the perspective of not only difficulty but fun. Part of the reason I really don't even want to bother playing the game until that releases.

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This isn't normal despite what you have been has told you