Good WRPG for beginners?

Been hungry for some good old fashion WRPG's, looking for recommendations

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kotor 1 & 2

How old fashioned?
Does perspective matter?
Solo or party?
Fixed party vs custom characters?
Turn based or real time?

You must have missed the "good" part

okay faggot

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ultima 4 to 7
ultima underworld 1 and 2
ultima savage lands and martian dreams
might and magic 4 to 6
wizardry 6 to 8
dark sun
darklands
betrayal at krondor
tes 1 to 3
system shock 1 and 2
baldur's gate 1 and 2
fallout 1 and 2
arcanum
icewind dale
planescape torment
neverwinter nights 1 and 2 +mask of betrayer expac
shadowrun snes
gothic 1 and 2
mount and blade warband
arx fatalis
kotor 1 and 2
dark messiah of might and magic
deus ex
vtmb
fallout new vegas
shadow of chernobyl
e.y.e
underrail
diablo 1 and 2
jagged alliance 2
homm 3
risen
these are more of an fps with light rpg elements but still pretty good
tron 2.0
bioshock 2

>tes 1 to 3

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forgot to mention wiz 5 is also good
what do you mean? arena is alright, daggerfall is good and morrowind is excellent

Arena is crap m, it's basically just an inferior UU

Arena is unplayable dogshit, Daggerfall and Morrowind are fantastic though

Not him but could use some recommendations myself. So long as it has Planescape tier visuals at least, anything goes. Perspective does not matter. Solo. Either.

really? I havent replayed it in years so I guess I forgot how bad it was, well sorry about that

arcanum

Might and Magic 6 Mandate of Heaven is pretty good if I remember

I played Ultima 7 first. Was really fun. Might and Magic 6 was also great.

Almost based list, just remove NWN2, Mount and Blade, Kotor1/2, New Vegas and Homm3 and replace them with M&M6

might and magic 6 is aldready there dumbass

Icewind Dale

Why so angry, did your dilation machine stop working?

Play some Drakensang, user.

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In no particular order, off my head there is:
>Icewind Dales
>Eye of the Beholders
>Divinitys (Original Sins, Divinity i & ii, Beyond Divinity)
>Tyranny
>Pillars of Eternity i & ii
>Arcanum
>Might & Magic
Caveat to Might & Magic: there are a lot, do some research to see which ones are acceptable to you
>Daggerfall Unity
>Avernum
>Dark Sun:Shattered Lands
>Geneforge

Opinion time:
>Piranha Bytes' Games
Some people hate them, but you might like them. I enjoyed Risen quite a bit, and Gothic is much lauded (for the most part).

now someone do JRPGs for me, pls

Most of those aren't even RPGs you dick.
And why in the hell would you recommend anyone play gutter trash like TES, Neverwinter or Planescape?

anachronox
barkley gaiden
smt 1, 2, 3 and SJ
digital devil saga
devil summoner soul hackers, raidou 1 and 2
dragon quest 5 and 8
chrono trigger
suikoden 2
dark cloud
baten kaitos
twewy
xenogears
ys felghana, origin and nephistim
mother 2 and 3
skies of arcadia
panzer dragoon saga
paper mario 1 and 2
mario superstar saga
secret of mana
vagrant story
tales of symphonia
front mission ds
nier
xenoblade chronicles
ff 5 and tactics
which ones arent rpgs?